3TE 10U - smoking

Six Russian diesel locos hauling freight train from tunnel.
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[@43177VP185]

Each unit of these locos has a Kharkov 10-cylinder (opposed) two-stroke 10D100 engine that produces 2206kw (2920bhp) at 850rpm. Cabbed units weigh 138t (the uncabbed slightly less) producing 86000lbs of tractive effort. They have no silencers, hence the volume and the nickname 'Rolling Earthquakes'. The Kharkov two-stroke engine is said to be a copy of the Fairbanks-Morse units in US. Although unsuccessful in the US, they seem to have worked well in Russia and most of it's surrounding countries.

[@Мото58-б7и]

Он не оппозитный и не двухтактны

[@carsismyaddiction6919]

it's straight 10, 10 cylinders - 20 pistons.

[@HansTheDeutscheLuftschraube]

​@@carsismyaddiction6919bro just casually answered a 14 year old comment.

[@michelwazouskey4799]

@@Мото58-б7и not boxer, but it is opposed piston, no head, no valves, 2 cycle, and 2 pistons in the same cylinder.

[@Velktron]

At 0:34, it's obviously using open-air EGR technology, as the smoke from the 1st locomotive is sucked from the 2nd one's air intake, etc.

[@amuroray1085]

🤣

[@RosyFirefly]

Спасибо алгоритмам, что привели меня сюда, спустя 13 лет

[@-Deksel-]

Вот она, мощь русских локомотивов!!! Огромный респект автору! Отлично снято. И не смотря на такое количество дыма, это в несколько раз экологичнее, чем перевезти тот же груз, только фурами. Эта техника просто радует глаз! Железная дорога - не только предприятие, это призвание и состояние души. Mein Herz schlägt für Metall

[@larrythorn4715]

It would be better to restore these engines! With new seals on the pistons they could once again run without plumes of smoke.

[@user-rl4nn9nd5g]

Советских !

[@-Deksel-]

@@user-rl4nn9nd5g Точно! 👍

[@HansTheDeutscheLuftschraube]

Их строил Луганский Локомотив Завод!

[@piranias]

@@HansTheDeutscheLuftschraube всё верно, лнр.

[@bormisha]

There are operators in the rear loco. Can you imagine how do they feel in the tunnel, after the first loco has left tons of smoke in it?

[@h3onza]

It is the most environment friendly diesel locomotive in the whole world - it produces no CO2 emissions ;-)

[@iulian29-67]

I call this train "The climate changer"

[@chameleon44]

This is enviromental disaster! Catastrophe!

[@WEMBLEYNE]

@@chameleon44 the greta killer

[@kortewegdevries]

Still better than trucks

[@SaxonIVKGames]

lmao

[@misterShon]

Офигеть! аж мурашки по коже! машины на пределе..

[@vladimirsemenushkin5839]

Толкающие тоже напрягаются, видео супер!

[@joshjones3408]

I'd name that train... HOW DEAR YOU..... lol 😆😆😆

[@ztsmi]

Rear engines is controlled by a separate crew, controlled from the front locomotive by a radio

[@adamfletcher4262]

one on my favorite train videos on you tube

[@Schlipperschlopper]

Thats the power of a large cargo ship put on tracks! 10500 KW!

[@ElectronikHeart]

This is a very old design ... They also use opposed pistons. Something abandoned for decades ...

[@snakecold6755]

Train is train

[@regiel3052]

Qu'est ce que tu fait la ?

[@jetstream454]

That might explain the atrocious oil burning tendencies then?

[@iinvokemyfirstamendmentrig7937]

Making those engines work aren't they. If I had to guess, either the engines are not very well maintained, or are being worked at the upper end of their ability for prolonged periods.

[@Xupaunwebo]

I'll say that they have a problem when making the mix (Air and diesel) and they are adding more diesel than Air, but yeah what you said, that Happens because of the Lack of maintenance (basically Look how dirty are the Wagons, that reveals an absolute Lack of maintenance)

[@davidviktora]

Well, consider each car about 65 tons (oil tanks and freezers) and do not forget the track is quite sloped and with sharp curves - there two beasts must work on full throttle to pull this train up the hill. It is the same in the States, there usually are three to six locos operating interstate cargo trains as well.

[@Bidone1967]

Thats really a lot of smoke! First time i see this russian locomotive.

[@РоманКузовлев-ч9ю]

"старый" Кузнецовский перевал, подъём 22 тысячных, поезд судя по всему "сборный" весом около 3600 тонн, при весе 4700т в голове ещё одна "трёшка" стоит. но видео не передаёт всего ощущения при нахождении в кабине, а порой и в дизельном.

[@andrewscott2986]

А для полноты ощущений я бы остался в кабине толкача, когда он туннель проходит...

[@MegaTubetraveller]

Ёжкин-кошкин!😲...получается, две трёшки 6000т. здесь уже не вывезут.....

[@panzer1066]

That's sea levels up another couple of feet - but spectacular all the same. You have to feel for the crew of the rear 3 locos.

[@maciejinho]

These are not 6 locos, but 2 locos with 3 sections each :) Like the vid :)

[@Ramwoolf]

Кузнецкий перевал - там профиль очень сложный. Даже сравнительно не тяжелые поезда таскают по 5-9 секций.

[@ZaparaVladimir]

Yes, there are other crew. You can see they open the window for fresh air. Radio controlled locomotives are not distributed in Russia at all.

[@gwaithwyr]

This smoke is probably not all due to poor injector maintenance. In tunnels oxygen gets depleted quickly and this results in partial burning of fuel. Hence the smoke. This problem was encountered in the USA, too. The response in the age of steam was the cab-forward locomotive type, which at least allowed the crew to get the first and best of the air. Then came the "tunnel-motor" diesels, which picked up the more oxygenated air at rail level instead of the hot air at the top of the tunnel. Russia sucks, Houston Railfan? Take a look at some old Southern Pacific photographs.

[@gwaithwyr]

***** See explanation above.

[@thalamus82]

John Hine Your explanation is wrong though. It takes a hell of a lot of oxygen deficiency to partially burn fuel - indeed, modern engines recirculate a large amount of exhaust gas into the air intake to reduce emissions. It also doesn't explain the fact that they are still smoking like a bitch when it is drawing all the clean air in the world after it has left the tunnel. So yeah, your explanation is incorrect. The smoke is from a variety of reasons. It's an opposing piston 2 stroke engine, so it'll be burning more oil than a 4 stroke, power is being applied to accelerate the train, but the engine revs are still fairly low so the turbos aren't forcing enough air in to the cylinder to efficiently burn the fuel without producing soot, and the injection timing could be a bit retarded (by design), which would explain the flames you see out of some examples. All in all, it's not the best or most efficient of engines.

[@gwaithwyr]

Maybe you can read my reply to "Pingas the Fourth", in which I mention turbo lag. Yes, sure, the engineer wants more power, gives more fuel into the engine and it takes the exhaust-driven turbocharger a little while to catch up. Add the tunnel factor, which must be significant since Southern Pacific went to a lot of trouble to deal with it. Then there is the possibility of sloppy injectors. Finally, maybe a 2-stroke, as you say, is always going to produce more smoke than a 4-stroke. So I agree with your "variety of reasons". By the way, a lot of Russian locos are now being re-engined by GE, so these more modern power units will produce less smoke. *****

[@tobycameron317]

Try looking at other videos of the same model locomotive. There are probably some good examples clearly displayed on the right side of the (full view) page. They do throw a lot of smoke, even with no tunnels involved. And it _may_ not be because of poor maintenance (although that likely contributes), but due to the fact that these locos are probably decades old, based on even older designs, they _were not designed_ to minimize pollution (which is not an easy task)...because Russia just doesn't f--king care about it the way we in the Western world do.

[@tobycameron317]

***** I thought they were Russian? They certainly have that brutal 1950's efficiency-over-good-looks style...

[@MegaBlackJoe]

@florinlifticariu . Unfortunately nope. Old tunnels build in the soviet times didn't have any air conditioning. Passing such tunnels is a hard job indeed. Train engineers just close the windows in the cab, however there's plenty of smoke in the cab. Thus they try to pass such tunnels on a high speed. But even this doesn't help because most of the diesel-powered trains are actually freight trains which move slowly. Moreover some of the tunnels are longer than 1 km. So it's a hard job.

[@tompaah7503]

Badly tuned and worn engines does not completely burn all the fuel injected. The long hydrocarbon chains in diesel fuel thus transform to carbon/soot, I would suggest you read the excellent wikipedia article on Soot for more details. Happy railroading! :)

[@Hartmut2903]

1984 i visit sibiria in my hollidays, Novosibirsk, Abakan /Sajan Schuschenskoje, Irkutzk, Bratzk, with airplane. I do not see this Diselloko. The hydroelectric power station (Sajan Schuschenskoje) was to make with Elektrolokos. excuse my bad english

[@ALS2001]

AWSOME! Reminds me of a SP Train crossing Tehachapi, with all the smoke and squealing flanges on the cars. 5***** and a fav!

[@Saranaprasadam]

Lord save the locopilots!

[@panzer1066]

You would think so - but have another look - there's someone in the leading cab of the rear loco set!

[@gregordiesel]

Don't mess with russian engineering! Beautiful!

[@cliffleigh7450]

Apparently the bank engine crews were originally happy when they learnt that the steam locos were to be replaced by diesels!

[@blowemall]

That makes Doug's engine look squeaky clean :)

[@gwaithwyr]

OK, Pingas, I get what you are saying. I was just talking about tunnels. Of course, you will see diesels smoking in locations where there is no tunnel. A cloud of smoke during initial acceleration is probably due to turbo lag - i.e. the motor gets extra fuel which is not burnt fully until the turbocharger gets up to its proper speed. Then the extra oxygen catches up with the increased fuel supply. In that case the smoke should disappear quickly. However, if smoke persists for a considerable time / distance then probably the explanation is just defective injectors.

[@Velktron]

Awesome. These locomotives are the baddest smoking boys I've ever seen.

[@StuC5]

Spectacular, all right ... though it does make you wonder about the life expectancy of crews having to use that tunnel. (And I thought the old American Alcos were bad polluters.)

[@JACK-xl5ev]

Евро 10!

[@FordV8viktor]

Das sind 2-Takt Gegenkolbenmotoren (10D100), die verbrennen sehr viel Öl, deshalb raucht das so ^^

[@mikeholland2346]

2 takt dieselmotoren roken altijd zoveel bij volle belasting. In de usa was deze dieselmotor in vrachtwagens zeer populair maar naar ik meen inmiddels verboden. In Europa alleen viertakt deze roken veel minder.

[@Runeakb]

Hmm don't think 2takt motoren altid roken so viel. Compare Alco locomotives (4 takt) med GM EMD engines (2 takt)

[@killahertz1981]

Охренеть! все 6 секций тянут! Видимо уклон большой!

[@Isochest]

What a formidable consist! I wonder what could be done to clean up the exhaust gases: Not so good from an enthusiasts viewpoint but the engineering challenge is there!

[@MrHarryESB]

Oxygen starvation in the tunnel causes the engines to smoke alot. I read an article from the US about the problems the freight trains have in some of the long tunnels. I hope the driver doesn't get asphyxiated from the fumes..

[@snakecold6755]

It's short tunnel.

[@poleovestnik1]

The first cars of train were freezers accompanied by machineroomcars. (That cars with windows and doors which are used for operating the freezers) Than there were platform car with three 20 feet containers, a gondola car and the rest were oil tankers.

[@snakecold6755]

Shut up. This is train.

[@davehowe4714]

Jaja D3 you sure? I thought it was a fucking airplane 🤦‍♂️

[@cattleman6420012000]

This is a wonderful video. I love watching these russian trains.

[@nebulousGemini]

The consist is not too long. And this locos can pull much faster with much less exhaust. It seems to be going uphill.

[@Najpi]

My bet is that those locos are extremly used. Just look the color of the smoke. It's gray, not black. If a diesel engine is making grey smoke, means that, there is not enough pressure in the cyllinder to make the diesel oil to ignite itself.

[@kgc20goober]

looks impressive and give the old things credit for what there doing as in it,s looking kinda hill and that and the whole length of the train etc.

[@mihaitudosa]

Superb movie!! That smoke make our delight...

[@mrfanman2u]

I know, but still, the smoke is un-burnt fuel. All diesels will smoke to some degree when fully loaded, but that is quite frankly, too much smoke. But what I'm getting at is, the U.S. is all over emissions and all that stuff, but on the flip side of it we got all these locomotives throwing out this black smoke. If it were an isolated thing, one or two engines out of the bunch, i would say "out of adjustment" but all of videos i've seen they seem to be intentionally set to overfuel

[@archstanton5973]

Imagine alll the charcoal you could make from scraping the walls of that tunnel.

[@demonest59]

Тепловозы заправлются деревом! Ты где учился?

[@adipocere1066]

no, those long cars carried soviet strategic rocket forces ICBMs. that's right, nuclear weapons-tipped intercontinental ballistic missiles. one per car. the top of the car was hinged on one side, and it would open up. the missile launcher inside the car would raise the "business end" (top) of the missile for vertical launch. the windowed crew cars were for the crews and armed soldiers who protected, maintained, operated and (potentially) fired the missiles. more coming....

[@drixdresspressprr]

Absolutes Klasse-Video .Das ist der Hit des Jahres. Tragen die Lokführer Gasmaske oder werden Lok`s ferngesteuert.? Liebe Grüße vom Peter

[@СергейЛучников-щ5о]

Зачем надевать противогаз если достаточно просто закрыть все окна в кабине?

[@sprin5]

Видео ОТЛИЧНОЕ!!! ПОБОЛЬШЕ БЫ ТАКИХ!!! ТЕПЛОВОЗ МОЩЬ,ОНИ ДЛЯ ТОГО И СОЗДАНЫ ТЯГАТЬ СВЕРХТЯЖЕЛЫЕ ГРУЗЫ НА ДАЛЬНИЯ РАССТОЯНИЯ ТАМ, ГДЕ ДРУГИМ ЭТО НЕ ПОД СИЛУ И НЕТ ВОЗМОЖНОСТИ!!!

[@banneryflappy]

@Rodionnx Not 79 but 555 2ТЭ10У were ever produced

[@SpaceJump-l4b]

I like these hard-smoking locomotives. It is the future!

[@demonest59]

Оно в прошлом

[@blarrer20]

I'd consider those diesels honorary steam locomotives.

[@MrHfurk]

あまりにもカッコいい！！興奮します。 毎日見ています。 蒸気機関車のよう。煙がすごい迫力。 これは峠の走り方ですね。 日本でも迫力のある峠はありました。 しかし、1997年に無くなってしまいました・・・・ Too cool! ! The excitement. I look every day. As the steam locomotive. Woah smoke. This is how I ran the pass. Pass in Japan was powerful. But I've lost in 1997・・・・

[@BuzzLightyear66]

These locomotive are a prime example of how to end the problem of global warming

[@mbondka]

feel soryy for the helper crew too, they even run with open doors to the machine rooms.

[@FactoryDragon87]

@petiakonan Well, one region is "pool table", the others- grit hillocks. :)

[@manieknww]

Definetly a diesel, each section of the loco pumps out something around 3000 hp (these videos made me do some searching on the web). By the way, steam loco would make a 'choo-choo' sound I think :)

[@1jackdk]

Great video!!! They would not get away with all that smoke here in the states...Thanks for sharring...Jack

[@cismok]

Because it is a loco with two stroke diesel engine

[@Rbnqss]

Inv Vartius we know when russians bring their copper ore hoppers to border of finland, you can see the smoke column loooong time before actual train :D

[@Mpetrishin]

@napasganjubas This is not 2TE10U. 3TE10U! Only 79 was produced!

[@NotSoCrazyNinja]

That whole train looks like something from the distant past.

[@K8S450DR]

3000hp in 10 cylinders... Do somebody know if these engines are charged only with turbo, or also with a compressor. If they are only with turbo, I think some supercharging could help a bit. And what´s the diameter (widht) of the cylinders - I think it doesn´t suffice. And the turbocharging too. :/ But really awesome video, cool place, perfect timing. Simply ACTION!

[@FishplateFilms]

Dougs engine!! LOL,love that clip!

[@banneryflappy]

@FactoryDragon87 It depends on the surrounding terrain. When driving uphill requires more power.

[@Stefan7067]

paint the trains in black, you never have to clean them

[@pcorf]

10 cylinder turbo engines!

[@moestrei]

Is really 5 cyl. with 10 opposed pistons diesel 2-stroke

[@Ludmilla232]

really great movie are all locomotives of that serie smoking such bad?

[@gingertrainable]

I would not want to be in any tunnel with that much smoke. Are the trailing locomotive, remote controlled or radio controlled or are there other crew members on the rear locomotives?

[@MrSiberianMan]

Рефсекций-то сколько. Сейчас уже столько не ездит.

[@jchristian8413]

Fairbanks Morse 2 stroke opposed piston diesels always smoked. check out company called achates which has reworked this style of engine. amazing stuff that will change engines in the future.

[@szlakowiec]

Super ten film, pozdrawiam z Polski ;) Do ula ;)

[@digimaks]

They definitely got engineer in them too with radiotransmiotter, so they can communicate with the head engines. Only thing I wonder- how the hell the engineers ever sit in those, not getting suffocated with so much deisel exhaust!?

[@GEKAKEV]

Этим ребятам я бы доверил водить поезда на нашем участке. Длина поезда 71ув.

[@CountVonBoco]

Because the Russians liked the Fairbanks Morse Opposed Piston Engines, and the ALCo 539 style engines, they made many many copycats of them, hence the immense amounts of smoke. As Smokey as those units are, they make a shitload of power.

[@Mr17152]

Люто.Это так и задуманно,или некая неисправность ? В заднем локомотиве,чтобы не задохнуться-баллон с кислородом 7

[@gwaithwyr]

Kislorod tochno vozili ha parovozakh na nekotorykh dorogakh.

[@purpleravenstar]

@gonetoworkbbackin5mi That's because diesel would congeal at subzero temperatures (and thus be unusable). German tank crews learned it the hard way when they pushed through the Soviet Union in winter of 1942-1943? (can't remember).

[@владимир74-ц8к]

Я одного не понимаю - чем дышит в тоннеле бригада толкача?

[@РБМК1000]

+владимир 74 Окна закрывают и все . Сам ездил так - вполне сносно . В городских пробках хуже !

[@scpmr]

акваланги надевают

[@АнастасияАнастасия-ъ3в]

Пофиг вообще дым этот не влияет человеку и повредить ему не может и дышать есть чем

[@kirillfedorov4]

Это горный перевал с большим уклоном, здесь очень большая мощность нужна. Задний 3ТЭ10.. - это толкач, он работает только на этом перегоне. И хватит издеваться над русскими.* It is a mountain pass with steep, there are a lot of power is needed. Rear 3TE10 .. - Is a pusher, it only works on this stretch. And do not laugh at the Russian.

[@Justlatvian1994]

@KapteinOpel Russian Diesel locomotives from Former USSR are old, rusted, damaged and unstable. It smoke so hard that operators need gas masks, also pollute environment

[@gp40mc]

I hope that tunnel has ventilation fans! That is some of the worst smoking I've seen!

[@provocatorr]

Да, мощно...А природа-то какая, благодать!Аж жалко становится...

[@kusy102]

high power and wonderful place

[@Geflechtmeister]

Jesus, Maria, how long is that train at all?! And there are 3 more Locos at the end, too! Are they steered by remote or is there a second engine driver?

[@theinvaderscorns]

Amazing clip!

[@Bahnheini]

Boah,das sind ja geile Loks

[@angryshrimp]

hell yeah! finest russian power around 18000 horses storming that hill with some really heavy load, considering the russian fuel quality.. i think were near to crude in this case ;)), seems those locos are very healty. and stop arguing about the pollution, sure, for the moment it look hard, but i think hauling that freight on trucks and roads would be much harder for enviroment..enjoy that beautiful train :) keep those trains in service, please :D greetings the shrimp

[@toddi1971]

this train is a living nightmare

[@kusy102]

I like this video, great pleace, great sound, thank you

[@metrofanushka]

TE10U has modernized diesel. Also, there are some differences in electrics.

[@JBofBrisbane]

Bags not be the crew in the banking locos. Do those things run on pulverised coal, or something?

[@Rakapuckar]

@panzer1066 Yep, they have engineers operating the rear engines of the set.

[@thecurtray]

wonderful to watch thank you kindly

[@estoyaqui85]

why does it leave "unburnt fuel". why doesn't it burn all the fuel up? and why "coal, soot", isn't it supposed to be diesel the fuel? thank you

[@flatusfi]

Smokie.. like a Liquorice! I Loved this .

[@nawiegehts4511]

Mann Mann Mann! Was für ein Spektakel! Einfach nur geil! XOPOIIIO! X) X) X)

[@voipltu]

Not six locos, but two three-section units.

[@tpvalley]

I wonder, they all seem to smoke like this, if u notice every loco on the train does; I suppose they could all be worn out, but I suspect that the russians just set the fuelling like that to get the power figures they wanted, just a guess. These r 2 stroke opposed piston engines.