4.9GHz AMD Threadripper 3990X Overclock, Issues, & Scores | Stream Recap

This recap of our AMD Threadripper 3990X CPU overclocking walks you through the highlights of our 3-hour livestream with the chip under liquid nitrogen.
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In this recap, we're talking about our 2nd-place overclock, a 4.9GHz score, with the 3990X. This will fully catch you up from the events of the weekend, where we managed to miraculously get in a 3990X on zero notice with overnight, next morning shipping, a friend in the YT space who could loan one, and still manage to learn it enough for a successful stream. The weekend was a huge amount of fun and we're thankful to everyone who watched and joined us for this event. If you missed it, you can get the most important details in this recap!
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Host: Steve Burke
Guest: Joe Stepongzi
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[@GamersNexus]

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[@vitormoreno1244]

Did you consider applying nail polish on those caps? That should isolate it permanently.

[@shize9ine]

Would it be possible to use doping liquid to coat the entire motherboard and ram to fight condensation? Kind of a risky move with a $k mobo.

[@captnawesome06]

Idiot speaking here, but would a small vacuum chamber around the board with an access port for the liquid nitrogen be helpful? Or would that cause more problems with other components not being able to bleed off heat? I feel like running it in vacuum would limit condensation significantly.

[@Damicske]

Use liquid silicon (SmoothOn) in the centre of the cpu, first try it on a bad mobo ;) could be your answer.

[@Yrouel86]

Instead of battling with condensation each time the issue pops up somewhere in the board like a whack-a-mole game why not have a box around the test bench and a way to push dry (and perhaps even chilled) air to maintain positive pressure and keep moisture out? The only issue that I can think of would be static electricity but I think it could be managed with proper grounding of the various parts.

[@VGDocs]

1100W?! That's insane bruh

[@saladwithsalad]

The 28core intel shitfest drew 1500w. This is nothing.

[@porkybitz]

1100W gets you a plate full of hot nugs in a few minutes!

[@CatheteriZedEYE]

it use to be you needed a 1500 W power supply because of the graphics card/s now things have flipped

[@channelasianewterminatexii7594]

1.1kW thats thing can blew up my MCB😅

[@trakaiszeks]

@@channelasianewterminatexii7594 It's be 9.1a at 120v and only 4.55a at 240v, light fittings use 6A mcb here in UK, sockets - 13-32A .

[@Sleepy.Time.]

no hair was harmed in the making of this film

[@yashkale5639]

😂😂

[@Damicske]

That's not true, BH lost some hear when he was pulling the mic of his beard

[@murtadhaalmurtadha2221]

i surprised no one noticed the second meaning to this

[@murtadhaalmurtadha2221]

if u look at what @ziv zulander said (Chin-beard and Head-beard are the best OC duo 🧔😎 ) no hair would be a person so...... no hair WAS harmed in the making of this film

[@agenericaccount3935]

"If things get weird, just stop" Good dating advice Joe.

[@TheEnd]

Johnny Nimble I somehow read this comment at the exact same time Steve said it, spoopy

[@ryanJoss]

Tech Jesus with tech Gandalf pushing the limit of the current great technology of human creation.

[@Elinzar]

WE SHALL PASS 5GHZ!

[@atomaalatonal]

more like tech-romero

[@omnigodx11]

as well pushing the limit of hair growth

[@liviubita4238]

@@atomaalatonal Nope, you're wrong, he is Overclocking Odin. 😋

[@Duncan23]

@@liviubita4238 Well he signed the ModMat as TechOdin so you're not far off ;)

[@Lucian_Andries]

0:00 Bearded Hardware and L'Oreal Nexus... 🤣🤣

[@hochhaul]

Big beards are enough maintenance that they need L'Oreal too lol

[@kcrook9689]

Great info! You guys make detailed subjects fun and interesting with your on camera chemistry. Looking forward to more collabs!

[@CrashnServers]

Recieved my signed mousepad on Friday. Amazing quality. Very durable. The best was shipping packaging. It was completely flat, no folds or rolled up making you fight to flatten it out. Looks amazing thanks so much Steve A+ as usual.

[@OlettaLiano]

I enjoyed the live stream. You guys are two of my favorite slackers.

[@shaneeslick]

G'day Steve & Joe, it was definitely worth getting up at 5am Monday here for the stream, always Awesome content when you guys work together 🥰🥰

[@LukeHimself]

There's a small KZbinr who was pulling 900 watts from the wall and almost 600 watts from the CPU with an ICEGIANT cooler!!! PBO only!!! Amazing!! It stayed around 91 degrees! It wouldn't reach the max 95! 4.3 Ghz with PBO all core! All he did was give PBO 1000 amps, 1000 watts for the limits..

[@bebegeeee]

PBO be wild

[@oliverturner128]

KitGuru ^

[@LukeHimself]

@@oliverturner128 i think thats the guy!

[@virtualinfinity6280]

@Luke Himself: Yes, indeed a very good video indeed and very helpful for ppl who just want to do non-agressive overclock on 3990x. Some additional notes thou: With PBO set to 1000W/1000A (pretty much an "unlimited" setting) he managed to gain 3,5Ghz on all cores at 92 celsius with a Wraithripper cooler (IIRC). With the same settings (just PBO enabled and literally unlimited power) he managed to get to 3,8Ghz all core at 91 celsius using the icegiant prototype. In cinebench, this accumulated to 30k points .vs. 25k points stock. A decent 12% increase in compute utilizing all cores, at the cost of an increased power-bill and buying the right cooler. Incredible.

[@gazyates5228]

Another great stream guys, always look forward to the GN OC streams , never mis a single one & always a education when Joes in town 👍👍👍

[@Dan-Simms]

Great stream and amazing recap here, that was a lot of fun.

[@juncarlsanez66]

Threadripper's waving at Xeon's, "Hey There!"

[@hochhaul]

Waving at the Xeon in the rearview mirror lol

[@djkevinomc]

You don’t even need the oc for it to crap all over intel xeons

[@BrawndoQC]

Yeah but Intel still have over 95% of the server market (Xeons), like the server that is loading this youtube right now, because most servers don't need 64 cores. I don't know many Linux servers who could take advantage of that. It's nice for rendering! Would love to see some Adobe Premiere render times versus Intel. Also, Intel will response. It's nice to have competition.

[@Janken_Pro]

Brawndo why don't they need more cores in less space? You don't make any sense. Intel fanboi.

[@BrawndoQC]

@@Janken_Pro Have you ever been a sys admin? I'm not an intel fanboy. You want a farm, not one single monster for most applications. You need redundency. Apache or other web servers won't take advantage of 64 cores on Linux, noob. That CPU is $4,000 USD. You will be bottlenecked by I/O speed.

[@xpodx]

Amazing job guys! Truly awesome!

[@cliftonsr]

I love this kind of stuff. Don't cry just keep the chips cool and dry, I know that's hard to do with all that condensation. I want to see more of this!

[@blackmennewstyle]

Hat off to Tech Odin for managing to pull out 35155, especially considering the time frame, will he post/submit his result or he doesn't really care (for now)?

[@junkerzn7312]

Grats! Saw the live stream too but the recaps are more cohesive. Supply does not appear to be a problem for this chip (probably because its so expensive). I got mine on Monday and have been putting it through its paces. It's almost 3 times faster than the 2990WX for our bulk build workloads, though that's at 410W. The efficiency is looking pretty awesome when I ratchet the power down to 275W. Still running those tests but so far my 3990X is around twice as fast as the 2990WX at that power setting. The power ramp fro the TR3 is smooth as glass compared to testing the TR2 last year. After a simple BIOS update, everything just worked straight out. CPU temps are so cool, I can't believe how well it works at stock settings on the MSI TRX40 PRO 10G. It stabilized at 71C at 410W with the Noctua NH-U14S TR4-SP3 tower cooler (with two fans, not one) running a 5+ hour bulk compile. At 275W the CPU is only running 55C and getting roughly 2.7 GHz all-cores. Still, I think the 3990X's efficiency peak is more likely closer to 3 GHz (probably around 325W). Which is what I care about the most :-) I haven't gotten to that test yet. I am a very happy camper. -Matt

[@The1RandomFool]

I like the collaboration streams.

[@robl5027]

Do you (or have you considered) running a dehumidifier in the room when you're using LN2?

[@metsfaninct]

Someone just accomplished 5.5Ghz with this chip. That is crazy 😜.

[@Slizzo82]

5.5GHz CPU-Z verified, they didn't do any actual benching, did they?

[@BrawndoQC]

Who? If there was no bench doesn't mean it was stable.

[@eduardosaborio8239]

@@Slizzo82 5.3 is the CB record, so I guess not

[@metsfaninct]

@@Slizzo82 Toms Hardware has the details on it. Don't think they ran CB on it. Mentions someone did run CB with 5.4. Looks to be possible with special bin 3990x. Just don't know how you cherry pick 4 thousand dollar CPUs.

[@ArturoTabera]

Best Consumer Advice 2020 so far: "This is what you guys as consumers should expect if you put LN2 on the chip."

[@kevito666]

Have you ever tried coating the bottom of the CPU with petroleum jelly (or even ram edge contacts)? I used to do this with some budget CPU cryo cooling in Texas where the humidity was extreme. You can also use a brush to paint it over the motherboard to keep condensation rolling off instead of soaking into things. It is kinda messy/nasty, especially for the sockets and receivers, but could be cleaned off later or kept like that for all future benches. I know it's a $400 board but in the spirit of overclocking all cards are on the table, right?

[@t.k.tronix0815]

Ernie and Beard THX for Video

[@UselessZero]

Will dehumidifying the room help with condensation and, by proxy, achieving higher clocks? Or even setting up "dry room" for the machine?

[@andreassheriff]

Setting the room temperature to below freezing will also help.

[@daweitao2668]

I caught a bit of the live stream and I think bearded hardware dude said something about dehumidifying a room making a significant difference, at least in one aspect of overclocking anyway.

[@kalmtraveler]

@@andreassheriff I could be wrong here but I've done sub-freezing ambient OC attempts a couple times now and it seems like I still get condensation or something - after maybe 2 hours or so everything starts glitching and having strange boot issues. Haven't seen any condensation but that's the only thing I can think of which would cause weird issues after some time. Allowing the entire machine to heat back up to room temp overnight everything works properly the next day.

[@Apollo-Computers]

Yes using a dehumidifier can help with condensation which will slow the ice build up but you will never be able to reach zero humidity. The ice itself isn't the problem, it when you run the bench and the CPU/GPU heat up the ice melts and becomes conductive.

[@cptbfrank]

I'm not sure if using an inert gas like argon might help by displacing naturally humid air or not. It's worth thinking about though. I'm sure argon gas could still contain humidity but I would imagine coming out of a bottle it wouldn't contain any and with constant flow wouldn't have time to pull any in from surrounding air. Also the cpu and board won't go up in flames. Could still melt though. 😁

[@curtisbme]

Were you guys using Windows for Workstation or Enterprise? Anandtech's review highlighted the performance problems with Pro and this many procs.

[@Tanktanium]

Would blasting a couple of dehumidifiers prior to and during benching help with condensation problems?

[@d.b.8684]

Have u guys ever tried spraying the components with non conductive moisture resistant product like break cleaner? Just curious if it would help.

[@cerohero1]

Weird question: Could you submerge the whole setup submerged in mineral spirits(at least above the ram sticks) and have any LN2 in/out outside the mineral spirits?

[@SWIRFTV]

i have a question regarding overclocks, is a CPU under constant 100% load on all cores supposed to have constant V,W,A draw? how much ripple is normal or should there be any? example I am running my ryzen 3600 @ 4.25 ghz on all cores. using aida 64 stability test, i am pulling between 89 - 95 W , TDC 42- 45 A , EDC 130 - 135 W , and the cores vid are starting at 1.5 volts and under load going to 1.08 V . ive tried load line to modes 2,1 same ripple, although mode 1 was more stable. Do i need to set all V,W,A to overide settings? or is auto always bad?

[@ohkay8939]

Given the cardboard+fans contraption, would a dehumidifier/AC with a targeted intake help reduce condensation? Still, excellent result.

[@andreassheriff]

"I bought the sandpaper." Steve, the flipping chip was as big as the sandpaper! lmao It's great when you too team up.

[@renehoyvik]

I was laughing so hard when is saw the TR IHS was as wide as the sandpaper :P

[@2011Kestrel]

Can someone tell me what the make/model is of the monitor on Steve’s desk? I love the look of it and I’d like to check it out.

[@Neccronix]

How do I overclock my clock so that it goes past 12?

[@YuhNinja]

Get a military clock, it can double your performance to 24

[@xboxlive6]

@@YuhNinja When I tried it, I ended up at 0.

[@1toW4mB0to9]

2 clocks on top of each other

[@nimitaszia2674]

Put LN2 like they did

[@lightofheaven2930]

This goes to 11

[@ogxbox]

Steve, would a dehumidifier slow down the condensation on components? I know it couldn't eliminate it but I'm just curious if it could slow the process down and give you more benching time and/or provide a bit more safety. I'm sure you've thought of it and I'm just curious if you've tested it or not.

[@-eMpTy-]

Yes it would and many professional overclockers use one

[@rufioh]

If you could put a mobo in a fully sealed box and pump out the air and replace it with helium, could you cool it without any condensation issues?

[@HamBown]

Does the ratio between the FCLK, UCLK, and DRAM clock have an impact in this case? I know that 1:1:1 ratio is important for Ryzen in desktop and gaming situations.

[@Phantom8Bit]

Ever consider running a dehumidifier in the room you are going to be overclocking in to help reduce condensation?

[@Joe-jt8qp]

How are you finding that Aorus screen? looks really nice

[@williammurdock3028]

Joe's mod video of the MSI mobo is worth while to watch.

[@organicwest]

could you use a neoprene shield instead of cardboard to keep the memory from getting soaked?

[@TheKims82]

Have been wondering why don't extreme overclockers use a dry freezing room when overclocking. Wouldn't that fix the condensation problems? Are there other problems with using a freezing room perhaps?

[@VillaMasterSF]

pls combine both "beards" for one ultimate hairpocalypse !

[@Zellonous]

If you OCed with ln2 or similar, would doing it in a low humidity environment help? Such as in Arizona or a room with a dehumidifier?

[@Apollo-Computers]

It helps slow the condensation/ice build up, but it will still happen

[@angelsegarra8842]

Could you not put dielectric grease in the socket to keep out moisture?

[@CapnPicard]

Hot damn - that monitor is HUGE.

[@Waxxer4]

I always wondered if you could somehow displace humid air by keeping the motherboard in a tank of gas like sulfur hexaflouride. Then you might not have to worry about the condensation so much. Not sure how you would cool the other components though...

[@SmokeyDaRoach]

Sponsored by Herbal Essences

[@XFourty7]

8:12 Obviously not realistic, but would it be possible to socket the CPU in a vacuum chamber to prevent air from getting between the socket & CPU? I realize the seal is probably not perfect between them, so it probably wouldn't do anything (air would find its way in then condense) lol.

[@DAVIDGREGORYKERR]

What about sealing that little crevice in the Threadripper with epoxy resin and hardener to keep water out of the Threadripper also what about sealing around the heatspreader to keep moisture out of the Threadripper.

[@DAVIDGREGORYKERR]

What about the LIAN-LI PC case and the associated LIAN-LI Phase Change Cooling Base unit.

[@HydroKyl240COG]

I was curious, and pardon for being way off subject, but what are some components on a motherboard that would significantly benefit from placing a Heatsinks on it? There are some really decent raspberry pie Heatsinks on amazon these days, and I figured every drop of heat dissipation is worth a few bucks. As an example, I know you mentioned cooling an m.2s controller could help (but you stressed if it’s throttling). Also, you should totally use a car radiator on a build some time. That would be a priceless mod to witness, and it’s totally feasible with suck skilled hands and intelligence as yourself.

[@Chainspike101]

Here's my question to you GN. SSD M2 Gen4's all come with heat sinks and those heatsinks don't fit in some motherboards. Is it ok to remove the SSD M2 Gen 4 heatsinks in order to fit them into motherboards that don't support the stock M2 heatsink, especially if the motherboard has its own M2 heatsink (I.e. any high end X570 or Z390)? Will this have any adverse impact on my Gen 4 M2 SSD's performance or longevity?

[@Apollo-Computers]

You will be fine to remove the stock one if your mobo has a built-in one, or you can just leave the stock one on the SSD and just not use the mobo's. It's really up to you.

[@mhx6437]

I love how the head and beard got clipped in the thumbnail

[@LMKlees]

I was curious about humidity. You'd need a vacuum set up to avoid condensation.

[@DurzoBlunts]

Steve has 2 beards Velcro'd to each side of his head. X2 manliness

[@skunkmonkey8475]

I like that awesome box Easter egg.

[@bluesmokegamer272]

Hair Jesus and Beard Jesus give the 3990X the double stuff :P

[@charlesbruce4999]

what would the temperature be different if y'all use mineral oil to cover the board and use liquid nitrogen to freeze the mineral oil the that should be cut back on the condensation on the board

[@GabyHannaheavenseeker]

so Ok -120C not daily driver, i guess -40C is daily then ..

[@andreassheriff]

Maybe in the Antarctic. And the air would be dry!

[@jakegarrett8109]

Titan Mechanism yep I’m aiming for -100c daily on my next TR upgrade. My old Vapochill did great for years through multiple system upgrades (hottest I’ve ever seen was -35c under full load from an FX-8350 at 1.7 Vcore in a stress test). So yeah with Ryzen -40c (or colder, idle temp will be -60c) is a realistic daily, but first gen has lots of issues with memory controller between 0c and -80c though some are fine down to -20c but either way none are good at single phase temps for memory, but the core overclock makes up for it and you just tune for timings instead. So it looks like from this video I need to aim for 1kW heatload for my goal, and that’s about what I hoped for (or much less like 500w if you were using the 32 core, and honestly that’s like in 9900k category). For reference a small 1/3HP compressor can cool to -40c at 350w heat load, so it’s basically 1:1 at that 80c temp improvement, so I’m looking at (spitball estimate) of 1kW CPU plus 1kW stage 1 compressor so 2kW for the second/third stages (depending exact temp I want and how many stages as well as gas etc, just an estimation). So I might use up to 4kW in the system plus GPUs (granted my ambient cooled build uses 1.7 kW with quad Fury Xfire and TR-1950x) so with an average electric bill of $25 a month I’m not terribly concerned, haha! Plus it will only pull that when benching, and games alone sure aren’t going to max out that 128 threaded monster!

[@Hawlkeye-e9p]

I just sent a 3900x and x570 back for rma. Every morning i have to do a cmos reset. Will not post. Cmos reset. Goto bios. Cpu climbs to 100c. Save settings. Reboot to windows. Drops 50c with in 20 seconds. Does this on water and hsf. Bad mb?

[@1toW4mB0to9]

@@Hawlkeye-e9p is the pump running in bios? sounds like no pump or too slow of a pump

[@jakegarrett8109]

mjs1231 why would your GPU be sent back? You really need to learn diagnosis man, it’s like taking an arrow to the knee (Skyrim reference) and then putting bandages on your arm (PUBG reference), lol! If it’s a CMOS bios issue it’s the board (that’s when you try installing a couple BIOS updates since). Also don’t pay much attention to unrealistic temps (just like my boards suddenly say like 128c when really at 0c and lower due to integer overflow) and the value wraps around, just ignore impossible temps because as long as it’s fine on Cinebench and P-95 it’s fine in BIOS.

[@Steveindajeep]

When are you two going to do a recommended hair products live stream?

[@dugg117]

Would dielectric grease on the whole underside of the CPU solve the condensation problem in the socket? It's specifically designed for exposed electrical contacts. You could probably put it on the pins for the ram too.

[@justinjones6302]

but how dose it react to sub 100F degree temps

[@PaintsAreOp]

Short hair, long beard. Long hair, short beard.

[@liviubita4238]

They complete each other! 😄

[@PaintsAreOp]

The perfect ship owo =3

[@KooYu]

Dont mind me, just waiting for some Darth Sidious "unlimited powerrr" memes

[@Drebin2293]

With the memory, I'd try my hand at using masking tape and conformal coating.

[@chrisgraves6408]

Your awesome . What company’s have you under embargo’s right now? And what’s the stupidest thing that’s been implemented?

[@heyarno]

Not too bad, those are just about 17W per core. So the overclocked threadripper is more efficient than my stock xeon e3 1225 v3. And only slightly worse than my amd phenom2 x6 1055T 95W version. Though it's a pretty good part, that turbos to 3.8GHZ at stock voltage, with the boxed fan and core temps not exceeding 62°C with silent fan profile.

[@thomasphillips885]

Who was the CPU borrowed from?

[@shanes.9016]

What monitor is that

[@ZoeyR86]

Why not run a few dehumidifiers in the room before ln2 and get most of the humidity out of the air

[@HMarcBower]

It seems like condensation is what always ends the effort... Have you thought any more about the "CO2 box" idea , Joe?

[@namelastname8D]

Crazy idea - use glove box to control your humidity and reduce the condensation to minimum?

[@Timber_and_Steel]

Hey can you run your CPU and motherboard in a vacuum to avoid the condensation issues?

[@erichall090909]

That brings up lots of other issues I can think of lol. But yeah that could help

[@ryanarmfield]

What memory was he using?

[@nfijef]

Steve, almost trying to be serious, (this is my business! man), Joe keepin it real:)

[@DickTripp]

Congrats

[@azharkacak1978]

when Zeus of PC met Jesus of PC = extreme overclocked of 2020's fastest CPU

[@claydog6422]

The Bloomberg pre roll add offended me

[@LarsBars17]

I really like Joe Steponsteve from Bearded Hardware

[@stubonics]

I was guessing the anonymous KZbin friend that donated the CPU was BPS Customs already, but now I am 100% certain. He mentioned something on his Q&A earlier tonight, but stopped himself from saying it outright. Then Joe showed up in the his chat and called him a slacker. He called the mystery KZbinr a slacker at the beginning of this video as well. I am no Colombo, but I think I solved the case.

[@joshmakeshift]

pretty sure BPS as well i think he is east coast US as well.

[@MarkeD213BustA]

I thought it was windell.

[@MarkeD213BustA]

@Ziv Zulander Good evidence says it Wendell. Wendell watches Joes livesteams and in his 64 core review he said 32 cores is enough. I havent seen that if BPS had a 3990x review because he is one of those people I would expect not to have one.

[@0katmandude0]

why doesn't anybody run the system in a enclosure with a dehumidifier running parallel???

[@FelipeSoares-cx8vn]

qual é o modelo desse monitor?

[@williamnicholson8133]

Wonder if anyone has done ln2 cooling with heavy inert gases to prevent condensation on the board and chipsets.

[@williamnicholson8133]

Like set up in an aquarium so you can fill the aquarium with heavy gasses to displace the air so no moisture can get to the explody bits . I work with alot of cascade freezers so indeal with alot of condensation and freezing issues.

[@aerostun9042]

Anyone tried doing OC in a vacuum? (with the LN2 pot being part of the enclosure ofc)

[@aerostun9042]

@Frank Hauser You make an airtight enclosure with an integrated cooling surface that you put in contact with the CPU; then you pull a vacuum in the enclosure, and put your LN2 on the outside of the enclosure That way the motherboard and RAM have basically no way to get condensation The point would be to have no air around any of the components

[@znoozi]

any reasons not to use a graphite pad instead of paste?

[@-eMpTy-]

Doesn't work at those temperatures.

[@Imtheyas1991]

Is it possible to remove the water molecule almost 95% from the air.. In closed enclosure.. And feeding nitrogen from outside and control it... It will be challenging. If achieved it could get highest score.. I will die to see someone tries it

[@Pankminek]

Just a question from a overclocking noob, to everyone capable of answering; It seems that the water condensation seems to be a big issue in extreme OC. Would it be feasible to encase the system (apart from the liquid nitrogen feed tube) in a vacuum seal with all gas inside exchanged from oxygen of 1 atm to nitrogen of 1 atm? The gaseous nitrogen inside the enclosed system would of course warm up in time, so there would have to be another system to get rid of excess heat outside. I suspect I''m missing something crucial here, so please feel free to correct me.

[@1toW4mB0to9]

that would work. you basically flush out the humidity. its used in some other sectors too, cant exactly remember which

[@SrtRacerBoy]

What's the average overclock anyone can daily drive on these new threadrippers?

[@escorpion1991]

Is that Thoros of Myr from GOT?

[@HeriYanto-je7rc]

Excuse me guys, do you need to replace the wraith prism with 3rd party cooler like noctua,etc on 3700x for rendering (Lumion,Corona,CAD)?I'm new to pc building, so need some advice here...

[@NightDevilMacGeneral]

Heri Yanto If you don‘t overclock it: no - but it certainly helps to keep the noise level down and maybe achieving higher average clock speeds while rendering (and therefore saving some seconds render time).

[@FinneousPJ1]

No

[@1toW4mB0to9]

no but it will sligthy improve performance if you get better cooling. if the prism isnt too loud for you, then i would keep it

[@HeriYanto-je7rc]

@@NightDevilMacGeneral I'm not overclocking by the way, so glad to hear that..

[@HeriYanto-je7rc]

@@1toW4mB0to9 Well, it doesn't get too loud while I'm running the rendering sequence... :)

[@misium]

Why don't they use pumps to more efficiently remove heat from the CPU with nitrogen? A flow through that block would quickly get the CPU temps down much closer to coolant temp. Would have to be possibly a bit different from normal pumps, but those exist.

[@-eMpTy-]

You don't actually want to cool it down too much otherwise you'll run into problems. Around -120°C to -100°C is what they benched at it I recall correctly.

[@Jsteri]

Oh Joe, my man crush

[@LeBurkaTron]

Steve's hair, Joe's beard. who wins?

[@samuelschwager]

Didn't know that ZZ Top does overclocking ;)

[@kieran.c7684]

Is the Ryzen 5 3600 still the best budget CPU?

[@akashchoudhary6619]

It is

[@nigelgovender4269]

yes

[@hochhaul]

With the current discount prices... yes

[@1toW4mB0to9]

best budget should be 1600af. 3600 is great too tho just not as good of value as the 1600af

[@KingHalbatorix]

2nd post for 1600AF, if you have a b450 or better mobo then you can probably hit 4ghz all core on a 6C/12T cpu for $85 bucks. The 3600 is also great, but nothing can compare to the AF right now. If you wanna go ultrabudget then ditch your GPU entirely and get a Ryzen APU, they're also great.

[@unit03]

if you guys were a band id call you guys the hair supply

[@Luscious3174]

Noob suggestion: conformal coating both sides of the mobo/memory AND the center of the CPU where there are no pins. That + eraser would be a solid shield against condensation creating problems.

[@LucyFerr_2661]

Hey Can it run 32 instances of Crysis?

[@bappyplays]

That sounds more like a Linus tech tips projects. 8 gamers, one CPU...

[@ExarchGaming]

Saw on the benchmark from HWMon that someone hit 5.3ghz on all cores 3990x. :(

[@ssjbardock79]

Source please!

[@ExarchGaming]

Hopefully this goes through... it's actually 5.5ghz now. hwbot.org/hardware/processor/ryzen_threadripper_3990x/

[@Apollo-Computers]

The 5.5ghz is just cpuz frequency, the highest so far I've seen is a lil over 5.3ghz in cinebench r20

[@shineymcshine]

Anyone have a link to that Snowflake page?