AMD Threadripper 3990X Review - 64-Core Overkill

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[@Auxilor]

Intel is going to need to start selling Xeon's for $10

[@leoo67899]

Best I can do is 5$ and I'm taking a serious risk here

[@enioapolinario8538]

Hope AMD can make the same thing on mainstream market too

[@User9681e]

@@leoo67899 hahaha lol

[@jomac_ph]

@@leoo67899 lololol AMD FTW

[@cain7925]

fanboys: but intel is better in gaming

[@famer6010]

2020: Super-puper CPU 2030: Unpacking 64-core cpu from AliExpress for 10$, is everything so bad?

[@yenypurwa]

hahahaha

[@xGARIDx]

True

[@rezah336]

let's hope so :-)

[@TheXuton]

true

[@annickgunes8834]

2030: 640000-core cpu amd threadripper X57894366788pro max W power returnt tr4mjgf

[@optimumtech]

64-cores is absolutely insane for consumer desktop systems. What use-cases could you see this being useful for? At the very least, a hard flex from AMD. Note: BF V frametime issues may be fixed by using DX12 instead of DX11.

[@AKThem06]

simulation of a virtual world

[@athuynh46]

this cpu isnot meant for consumers.

[@claudiussmith8798]

I would love to have it and use it for diffraction image processing, structural refinments and molecular dynamics and most of all TO DO THINGS IN PARALLEL!

[@amigodesigns]

For almost everything I do, rendering, animations, structural analysis, fluid simulations, generative design, compiling, etc. I wish I had that power.

[@user-xh5pi2nf9q]

This many cores needs to be used in a system with multiple virtual machines and as a homelab/server. Id be really interested in seeing you setup a server and start testing CPUs for VMs and maybe rendering videos simultaneously on 1 CPU.

[@GeoStreber]

AMD Engineer: "So we got this nice new Zen 2 architecture that scales well with core count. How many coes should we squeeze into this HALO HEDT chip to totally obliterate Intel?" Lisa Su: "Yes."

[@selohcin]

Lame joke is lame

[@rogueanuerz]

@@selohcin no it's necessary

[@jamesaron1967]

@@rogueanuerz Even if the "yes" meme is repeated a gazillion times in every freaking AMD video??

[@gtgunar]

@@jamesaron1967 "Yes."

[@NiTeHaWKnz]

Actually Lisa Su strikes me to be one to give a direct answer... so... Lisa Su: 64

[@nutzeeer]

your problem might be the "only" 32GB of ram that bottlenecks the 64 cores.

[@ChristopherGray00]

that's not how cores or ram work at all.

[@frostybe3r]

@@ChristopherGray00 It actually is.

[@ChristopherGray00]

@@frostybe3r clearly you have no idea what ram is then, i recommend you do research on the difference between random access memory and a processor core.

[@frostybe3r]

@@ChristopherGray00 Bruh, I'm not even going to bother explaining to you why 8gb per channel across 64 cores isn't good for bandwidth allocation & performance...

[@frostybe3r]

@@ChristopherGray00 64 cores with quad channel is bad enough, even if you were using 256gb.

[@eternalwings7]

This is the first Ryzen Threadripper 3990X I've seen on KZbin.

[@reedlw]

Hardware unboxed uploaded about a minute before this video

[@dylanneff8338]

ゴゴゴ “I’ve seen”, key words there.

[@barrettgeibel9538]

Linus tech tips uploaded at about the same time, like within 5 mins of each other

[@odinsplaygrounds]

@@reedlw Yep. Stralia, mate.

[@HoloScope]

LMAO AMD is just kicking them while they're down

[@chris-dd6uq]

Gotta make sure they stay down.

[@HoloScope]

@@chris-dd6uq yeah lol

[@BrawndoQC]

Not really, not many apps outside of benchmarks take advantage of that. Not even in the server world.

[@mustardmadness9514]

@@BrawndoQC yea.. really considering how intel still has the guts to overprice there CPUs.. a threadripper can make intel i9s obsolete, especially since you don't need anything else for future sake...

[@BrawndoQC]

@@mustardmadness9514 In gaming the i9 is still better than a 3990x, they don't serve the same purpose. No games use 64 freaking cores, they benefit from less cores with higher individual core speed. AMD is killing Intel at value level now, especially for workstations. But considering AMD sucked for a decade, (and I've AMD stocks), can we at least give Intel a chance to bounce back?

[@P8qzxnxfP85xZ2H3wDRV]

This could be used to get AI-based physics simulations into game engines. But that will likely take some time. I'm talking sediment in a liquid or realistically ripping cords.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

P8qzxnxfP85xZ2H3wDRV That would definitely benefit from the additional workloads.

[@chaywarburton3488]

But then we'd need killer system to enable the graphics setting: "Auto adaptive environments". If this takes flight you and I get a % for the idea lol

[@dstarr3]

Not so much "can it run Crysis" as "How many simultaneous instances of Crysis can it run?"

[@MrRogue-rb3rm]

Dave Starr can crysis run it?

[@abdulmuhaimin5274]

Linus did run Crysis CPU only

[@wizzenberry]

Probably 64 with enough gpu and ram

[@moccagringo2311]

How many chrome's tabs this cpu could easily manages before succumbed?

[@WayStedYou]

Rip and tear until it i... oh its already finished

[@soekarmana]

I know that reference 😉

[@jagdeepsingh9515]

@@soekarmana doom, isn't it?

[@adhamawadien8725]

Rip and tear until it is done

[@arcadeportal32]

Rip and tear... oh it tore its arm off already lol

[@_intrepid]

tech youtubers: overkill me, an archviz guy: GIMME

[@OverdriveTech]

AMD is absolutely ripping Intel. Now if only they released big Navi at a competitive price.

[@Creastionist]

Alongside good drivers.

[@dstarr3]

I really am seriously excited for when Intel finally comes up with an answer for this. The CPU market is going to be filled with absolutely BRUTAL processors for so little money in a couple years.

[@MattSVR]

When Intel catches up we might see really good prices for hardware. The only thing that pisses me off about Intel is that they change the motherboards' socket every generation. AMD on the other hand provides us with 3 (maybe 4 in the future) generations of processors that use the same socket.

[@websterri]

@@Creastionist AMD has amazing software....

[@websterri]

@@MattSVR intel themselves said they can't compete with zen 2 till 2022 at the earliest. They are 6-10 years behind.

[@LoganKaser]

I'm a software engineer, and I've never once heard "serial coded". Generally the terms are sequential vs parallel. However since sequential is usually assumed unless otherwise stated, you don't hear that often. A part of a program that is single threaded is a sequential section, and a multi threaded part a parallel section.

[@Crimson_201]

2:06 3970X boost clock is 4.5ghz

[@justvideos3216]

Yes and baseclock is 3,7 ghz. Nearly all clock information in this slide are just wrong

[@enioapolinario8538]

R.I.P Intel You now are "bulldozer" blue team, the mainstream meme is coming with Zen 3 ehehehe

[@hashvolting]

you said blue instead of red lol

[@lastone032085]

Zen4 is coming with 96core/192threads. 💦🌊

[@xorengames]

Impressive professional review, thanks for covering all the key software applications video editing, 3D modeling, game development, and some contemporary games as a bonus. Very nice!

[@OutOfPaceRacing]

You know what may could be great? - blooper outtakes of you :D You are so serious that talking bloopers maybe would fresh up the aura! :)

[@ironmantooltime]

He doesn't bloop, he's an AI

[@oysterhead5150]

This CPU is a beast to say the least, and it costs more then my car, lol!

[@rodneyturnerphoto]

Great review. Over the next couple of years hopefully developers will optimize software to take advantage of this amazing hardware.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

I liked the clock sound at the beginning of the video. Well done sir.

[@RealDaveTheFreak]

Thank you very much for including the UE4, much appreciated!

[@movdqa]

Thanks for the quick overview on the limitations of this thing.

[@felipemagalhaes567]

Thank you so much for your review! Would you consider including Capture One instead of Lightroom next time? It is much better coded.

[@daraburke]

Great to see some unreal benchmarks, thanks for doing these. Great video.

[@MisterRorschach90]

I dream of a flat chrome asrock creator 3990x build with 128gb of 3600 c16 dominator platinum non rgb, 2 rtx titans with a heatkiller chrome block sanded to match the rest of the silver accents in the build, 3 gen 4 m.2 drives installed on the board, 4 gen 4 m.2 drives installed in the asrock quad m.2 riser card, and an ae-9 sound card all stuffed inside an a700 aluminum case with flat chromed brass tubing and a custom flat chrome distroplate. Oh and metal conduit sleeving on the psu cables like the titan iPhone cables. This is my dream build. And if it were built I don’t think anyone could look at it and not think it’s the most beautiful computer ever built.

[@Janken_Pro]

jordan secrist why not go all out and get 256gb ram?

[@JusticeFreedomDestin]

Can you do a video on your video render settings? Great video!

[@axi6ne8us]

Thanks for the review. Do you think there will be an mATX motherboard for the 3rd Gen Threadripper similar to the ASRock X399m Taichi?

[@FoodTechLife]

Sweet DaVinci Resolve charts!

[@Maisonier]

Awesome video, as usual. Your channel it's excellent.

[@foobird02]

When you’re doing complicated CFD, this makes your home PC a true workstation. Add 128 GB RAM, and a Quadro RTX you’re pushing a desktop PC that previously needed a couple of racks to accomplish.

[@tonkatoytruck]

I see this hardware being used by engineering companies that do 3D calculations, modeling, numerical analysis, computational fluid dynamics, molecular mechanics, etc.

[@alphaadhito]

Yeah, I wish my laboratory bought this instead Intel's Xeon for aerodynamics rendering and computation. At least I could get lunch a bit earlier 😁

[@borisyeltsin6606]

Did you just regurgitate undergraduate class titles at us as if professionals don't use libraries for all of the above? What a joke lmao "I needed a 64 core cpu to perform numerical analysis computations on a single-threaded R script"

[@tonkatoytruck]

@@borisyeltsin6606 I have been in the energy industry for almost 30 years, using and writing software. When you are paying tens of thousands of dollars for a key, custom software to meet the clients needs is the norm, not the exception. Grow up.

[@atomkinder67]

@@borisyeltsin6606 I think you're using R wrong.

[@tonkatoytruck]

@Dice Channel I am a mechanical engineer , Safety Instrumented Systems engineer, TurboMachinery specialist and controls programmer. Also do hydraulic modeling of fluids and gases in pipelines, software for secondary and tertiary oil recovery, and software for surge control, fire and gas, and burner management systems. Also have used stress analysis software for aero derivative gas turbines, steam turbines, etc.

[@junzhiwong1284]

What do you feel about Davinci Resolve for your main video processing application? Can I get some of your opinion about this application?

[@SsgtHolland]

Just try it out! DaVinci Resolve is free to use. The paid Studio version only adds a few features.

[@mattsmechanicalssi5833]

Decades ago when I was linking 20-30 Pentium computers in a render farm to speed up workflow in 3DS MAX and AutoCAD, the thought of a single CPU being capable of those types of workloads was inconceivable.

[@h2oaddict28]

Wouldn't a simple core i7 from a decade ago be faster than those 30 pentiums? And be able to work with bigger projects?

[@mattsmechanicalssi5833]

@@h2oaddict28 I was referring to a time before the Core series of CPU's. The days of the Pentium 1, 2, and 3. We were dealing with MHz, not GHz. Imagine 30 Pentium II's running at 333MHz, trying to render 30 seconds worth of video at 60FPS, with extremely large 3D files. It was a challenge. And yes, an i7 would have blown those away, if they were available at the time.

[@h2oaddict28]

@@mattsmechanicalssi5833 Yes, I knew you were referring to those. Honestly think that over the last 3 years the increase in processing power has been greater than in the previous 9 years combined.

[@h2oaddict28]

@cesar arias 300 euros isn't expensive

[@mellowmood9]

Yes..i need that to make my school project slides

[@superflyboi1]

Thanks for answering the real questions!

[@bendolmanb]

Thanks for the data on unreal engine! It doesn't pop up much in benchmarks. Would love to see it more!

[@SERGE_Tech]

Are there any awesome ITX 64gb builds that are decent? Really like the 2013 Mac Pro design. Wish there was something like that for Ryzen.

[@vladimirradovanovic3121]

Do a Cooler Master G200P review, would like to see how it compares to L9 and C7

[@bluetrojan]

Hi Optimum Tech, I'm looking to purchase one of these. which would you recommend for high end VFX production and game developments?

[@osoriony]

Fantastic review. Who would have thought that 64 cores only offer benefits in some selected situations vs the 32 core. Do you think the same will apply for the Threadripper Pro (Lenovo P620). I am asking because I am looking for a workstation for 8K video editing. Thank you very much

[@BudgetGamerz]

When Intel has better cpu: yay it smokes AMD in everything. When AMD has better cpu: uhhm let's see where this makes sense...

[@websterri]

Right? Just wait till software is programmed for it in 3 months and it crushes everything even more.

[@BudgetGamerz]

@@juandanielmorenocasillas9409 the average gamer doesn't have $4,000 to spend on cpu... Pointless point... Thanks for trying

[@websterri]

@@juandanielmorenocasillas9409 Obviously it's not for gaming specifically. This thing could run 32 instances of the most demanding games. Hell it could probably run 128 but w.e.

[@JDC2389]

@@BudgetGamerz There is a 8 core 16 thread ryzen looming that doom over intel RN, it's on the way, and 3nm will follow in the coming years or at least a refined 5nm.

[@bshcatamora]

If you are purely in gaming, you can still opt in to go to intel. But if you're gaming and are into doing multithreaded workloads, then amd has lots of offers to you. While amd still hasnt close the gap to intel in gaming, amd is now in a position where you can use it for gaming. This is what they wanted you to leverage, to either go full.gaming to the extreme or go gaming and be able to do other things Let's face it, while amd have seemingly catched up to intel in terms of gaming, intel needs a lot of things to address (price to performance ratio, & multithreaded workloads)

[@waifuhunter9815]

Can you try Tenserflow CPU render. Try to use CNN or K Means

[@MohdAkmalZakiIO]

Yes, I agreed for this. Many PC Builder not knowing so much about NN computational hunger. Try benchmarking the NN computational from the scratch (training), meaning it's not Transfer Learning method. Yes, I'm talking about tensorflow, not tensorflow-gpu. Talking to y'all high-cores people, Linus included.

[@wowepic2256]

Cpu for deeplearning?

[@waifuhunter9815]

@@wowepic2256 you use Nvidia Cuda for that. I ment to torture test it to see how big the difference in a very long work load

[@giovannip.1433]

Great to see that CPUs have gotten to the point where it becomes task specific. In the past it was always more is better because realistically more cores were better - 2 vs 4 vs 6 vs 8 etc. Now 16 or '18' cores is more than enough for most of the PC market for the next 6 years -without changes to the way we use PCs (home servers and virtual machines which don't sell more product)...

[@devilorchard]

My Next laptop will be AMD. There is little to no difference in Intel i5 5th gen and 9th Gen. I cannot even find much difference in i3 and i5.

[@tausenrico126]

Also for poor people like me the integrated gpu is better than intel's.

[@johnnyxp64]

VM servers for small-med size companies will love this!

[@Janken_Pro]

Johnnyxp64 not enough ram and pcie lanes. Bettet to go with epyc.

[@MeshPotato_]

Awesome! Oh yeah that speed! Time is money baby!

[@eliashdez]

Should have added compilation or more development stuff related benchmarks :)

[@mahadevovnl]

So, a question... back in the days we'd have motherboards that supported multiple CPUs. Those are still around today. I barely see any reviews on those, performance wise. Would it at some point lead to better performance for less money if you use two cheaper CPUs in one motherboard? And what about cluster computing? At what point does it make sense to have your own home-made "render farm" (even if it's just 2 PCs) to do the work more efficiently than 1 expensive CPU?

[@Malk007]

I find interesting how as most tech youtubers work with video editing most of the 3990x heavy load they use is rendering and editing software. I am an engineer and most of the simuation software I work with would benefit a lot from 64 cores at this price point (we use Xeons currently at my workplace, but can change to epycs or even threadrippers in the future).

[@matimad0338]

what About a oroject trying to build the velka 3 case with the r9 3950x and a powerful graphics Card ? that would be amaizing do to the relativly low thermals of the 3950x ,that could be possible

[@NarekAvetisyan]

Excellent review. But I would also like to see one more workload where this CPU could shine the best. That I haven't seen anyone test. And that's Blender physics simulation. Like Mantaflow. I was doing a simple 6 second Mantaflow fire simulation the other day and it took my Ryzen 1700X 18 hours to complete! So I want to see how the 3990X would handle that. Since it's a CPU only workload, and you can't use the GPU for that. Cheers.

[@thaihoangminhtam7168]

Which camera is Optimum Tech using? It's so crisp. It looks like Red camera, doesn't it?

[@lilium9074]

Me: laughs in 2 cores

[@MineralWater321]

I was watching this with great interest... then i remembered I only play Mount&Blade: Warband

[@myerwerl]

I only play assasins creed brotherhood. Not so much the issue of having the proper hardware, i just love that game. 😅

[@QuickshotGaming]

How much VRAM does your Pocket 6k use in DaVinci Resolve Studio? Puget systems recommends 20+ GB's for 6k/8k and personally with iPhone 8 4kk 60 HEVC files I've used 5.8GB of my GTX 1660 that I got for the purpose of NVENC encoding.

[@scoobyx6]

Now i want to see this 64 cores on the screen with msi afterburner ^^

[@kevinh4493]

Can you compare blender render times from the 3990x with the RTX Titan? I know they're entirely different categories but it would be interesting to see which renders faster.

[@RealYethal]

Can you test DavinCi Resolve under Linux? Windows 10 scheduler isn't that great when it comes to managing very high core counts

[@silencer51]

Imagine if the mad lads over at AsRock released a mini DTX TRX40 board that could run a 3990x, like they did with X99/X299 a few years back. One can dream...

[@petermonte2180]

Can this handle cities skylines? I'm interested to know what this thing can do on the gaming front and streaming

[@joostwagelaar8837]

Hi! What cpu cooler do you recommend under 14cm of height?

[@nahte980]

Do you have to give it back to AMD?

[@allaboutgaming5671]

Alternatively you could also use core parking software to temporaly park some of the core but i did not test that.

[@TheChico868]

Can't wait to play Mind Craft with this

[@karmanyaahm]

Please do a Cerberus X or similar build for this

[@TemalCageman]

I am using LightWave, and this processor is awesome!

[@empoazhafikah2611]

want to know rtx titan or 2080ti performance in 6:07 minutes resut

[@simplyble]

i wanna see that thing in a mini itx case now that would be very much entertaining

[@websterri]

That's literally impossible

[@simplyble]

@@websterri that is the main point, its impossible hence why it would be very entertaining to see....

[@MrCAT1996]

You might have wanted to test this monster on 3D vfx software like Houdini. I think it is where the real benefite of those cpu hides. Computing huge fluide simulation or pyro simulation takes ages and are made to be multithreaded.

[@cikpelikelilik9449]

how many fps can be obtained when playing Black Desert in REMASTER mode ON ?

[@RepsUp100]

Awesome review

[@MARTINREN1231]

i wonder what kind of power supply or motherboard will be required to power a dual socket thread ripper board with two 3990x. and how great it is.

[@Helios.vfx.]

I need that processor for HoudiniFx!!!

[@ColbyPerry]

Soo...thermals for a SFF build should be good? :)

[@cm01]

Well there are mATX TRX40 boards so if you consider that to be SFF and found a real hobby-grade mATX case that could maybe fit a couple 360mm rads you could get fantastic thermals in a smaller tower. I know you're joking but yes, yes they would be.

[@MarkWebbPhotography]

For the Lightroom export, you should use more images. Try benching with at least 500 files to get a better figure on core scaling. You can just make virtual copies of those 10 images or get the Puget systems bench. I just exported 3,000 CR3 files with the 3960X on air and stayed under 70C. It’s 3x the speed on my 9900K which now seems obsolete for workstations.

[@RifatErdemSahin]

Are you using it ? Getting 3995x would it be a good workstation that can utilise daily workload of creative load

[@helldotsin]

I was expecting and unboxing, too.

[@wendellholmes3783]

What is the performance running a DAW with a ton (75-150) of real-time plug-ins?

[@xaop2001]

I wonder how useful it will be in Virtualization environment?

[@m5a1stuart83]

I still use AMD FX with 16GB of RAM, still good to code in Visual Studio 2017. But now I code in Visual Studio 6 (VB6) in Virtual Box, with 2 cores and 4GB Ram and Windows 2000 SP4 in it. It compile very fast.

[@L3nny666]

i have a 1950x and thunking about a new built with the 3990x for 3D rendering, wondering if i should wait for zen3 threadripper.

[@rppdfire]

Correct title "AMD Threadripper 3990x Review - 64-Core Overkill If": Overkill is an overused, all encompassing word. A 486 DX2 was called overkill in it's time.

[@bananya6020]

it would be useful to have an architecture that allows you to "merge" cores into single threads like if you have a 64 core now somehow it can go from 3ghz 64 core to 12"ghz" 16 core, allows for a really great scaling always.

[@_intrepid]

Corona Renderer benchmarks for next time? It's free and CPU focused, also very popular in CGI business.

[@yudhi.paramartha]

Is it possible there is a bottleneck in the storage? RAID maybe? And more RAM?

[@Sureshelangbam]

Inclusion of R5 3600 results is very good to see.👍

[@blackmennewstyle]

Maybe next generation of regular Ryzen CPU will offer us a 32 cores CPU, maybe... On the other hand, if only AMD could put that much efforts in its GPU, if only...

[@viniciusyugulis7278]

I know right? GPUs prices could really go down, the problem is, unlike Shintel, Nvidia doesn't fuck around by releasing the same products with different names for an entire decade, they're actually dedicated and innovate

[@mgtowanonymous3120]

Buying intel anymore is like going to family video to rent a movie when u can do it at home on ur phone instead....

[@cronos1675]

I have thread ripper 3950x 24 c48t. Using for editing and some free time gaming

[@valdius85]

Your camera work is amazing. When it's you and the CPU on one shot, please make sure both the product and your eyes are in focus. Either increase F or sit closer to the CPU. My eyes keep bouncing from your eyes to the product you show so that's how I noticed. I like your channel. For me right now the cases and cooler reviews were most valuable. ;)

[@KangoV]

Kubernetes and loads of Docker containers to test distributed applications. This is perfect.

[@GurmeetSingh-fr8uo]

What’s best gaming processor?

[@nickwescott4169]

Flawless video as always

[@a176]

sad to see those video programs dont scale above 64 threads?

[@bourkeTearwater]

Put it in the NCASE M1?

[@jouniosmala9921]

The gaming is reasonable testing for such machine. An architect can have space for single desktop machine at home which needs to handle both his job projects and gaming needs. And also independent coder can also have a single desktop machine at home office. Both of which are reasonable scenario for this kind of CPU.

[@nomindseye]

If you want to solve the Farcry 5 stuttering without rebooting, you can use Process Lasso to give it only X number of threads. You can also limit it to one NUMA Node (not really an issue with the 3rd gen). This is how I've solved my issues in gaming with my 2970WX. In fact, I can recommend 2970WX (if you get it for a good price) for people with the caveat that you will need to get yourself Process Lasso to enjoy it without any issues.

[@samventures1]

is it possible to to just enable 8 cores on 3990x ? enabling 8 cores means no latency between ccx modules as threadripper uses 8 cores per ccx module, i think it can beat in a 9900k in terms of gaming

[@willwright6447]

The Gpu vs Cpu blender benchmark should should optimize tile sizes for each. Larger tiles work better for gpu rendering and small tiles for many Core cpu rendering. Bumping up your gpu tile size to 256 would almost certainly produce better gpu rendering results.

[@murdocklesban6836]

Amazon ??