#4 Jim Newman - The Discarded Compass Interview

In this episode, John interviews Jim Newman about his insights and experiences on the spiritual path. Jim shares his wisdom and provides valuable pointers on non-duality and the journey towards enlightenment. This is a must-listen for all seekers, as Jim offers a rich and engaging perspective on the spiritual path. Tune in to this episode to learn more and be inspired by Jim's insights and teachings.
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Jim Newman's NON-DUALITY meetings share a mystery, a paradox. The paradox is that THIS, this appearance, isn't what it appears to be. It is and it isn't. It's no-thing being something. It's emptiness appearing as everything. It's unified appearing as divided or separated.
Within this apparent paradox arises an experience. That experience is, that this appearance is happening to 'me'. That experience is not paradoxical; it feels very real. There's no space, no room, no possibility for the reality, that 'this' isn't happening to ‚me’. That experience of duality is dissatisfying. It's uncomfortable. Out of that experience arises the need to bring about a wholeness, to cover up the feeling that what is, isn't complete, to make the feeling that it's not okay - okay. Out of that arises the need for good and bad and right and wrong. So this appearance then turns into ‚my life‘, and my life is the need to make 'this' better, 'this' good, to find out or to solve the problem of why I don't feel like it's okay, why I feel like something's wrong, why I feel like I need to seek, to find something else.

[@specialeeffexx]

At 40:44 I burst into tears! I can’t stop crying! It’s been quite awhile since I’ve cried!? “Freedom paining” just blew me wide open! I’ve put my story onto pain! So Ram Dass was right? It’s ALL God in drag! Even pain! WoW! 🤯

[@graceoline]

♥️🎉

[@sheikmunjah2241]

If only, our stubborn minds can relax and comprehend the simplicity of what Jim is saying, there will be complete freedom, complete peace, an initial bursting forth of tears and perhaps uncontrollably laughter and then a profound feeling of happiness, satisfaction, astonishment. We would not be able to bear the joy as a result of switching out to our true nature, right here right now. I must die in order to live. Oh my God! There is none but You and I am You all this time (that I thought I was lost and then searched). I searched for you not knowing that I simple had to surrender. Oh Abraham, you showed us that we needed to sacrifice the thing we loved the most. I surely loved my own separate life and could not part with it. But oh, the exchange for this small life is so MUCH MORE!

[@kasunlee.s1227]

I always enjoy the hopelessness in Jim's message. Great interview, thanks John. Cheers from Srilanka

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@carlasimmons5546]

Lovely interview

[@transcendingdimensions8412]

This is my all time favourite Jim Newman interview. That you for being a great interviewer . You really allowed Jim to get the message across

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Thank You !

[@VisnjaxD]

I just laugh so hard everytime the resonance of the message happens and this interview cracked me! Ever since this message is heard, I cry and laugh and love way more than ever before in my life Thanks John and Jim for the wonderful conversation, love you

[@philipdent-composermusicpr9297]

You're a great interviewer john.....you are actually listening.....this is a rare quality

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Thank you so much .. 🙏

[@specialeeffexx]

IT’s def a wild ride! I used to tell my teens “Life is a wild ride! You might as well put your hands in the air, holler and get a thrill outta it! But wear your seatbelt!” So it’s ALL THINGS but NO thing? Shewwyyy! That’s not computing?

[@artimuddaiah9711]

Jim is my favourite. Bang on. Great Resonance. Clarity.

[@djnavratil]

At 12:03 is one of my favorite moments of this discussion. A beautiful silence where both individuals are okay to just be.

[@responsibleadultorami]

Absolutely love Jim's way of speaking. You can just see people's minds grind to a halt after he says something. And my mind too! Brilliant

[@responsibleadultorami]

You are a wonderful interviewer John! This is maybe the best back and forth I've seen Jim have with someone else

[@FirstPersonHood]

@@responsibleadultorami I concur!

[@bryantcofty2709]

Yes, it's quite brilliant to say your not a teacher and there is no teaching and that there nothing to learn or comprehend and that words are inadequate and then spend an hour discussing it. 🤨. I mean, just state that communication through language as we know it is inadequate and then do your best with said language (like every other "teacher"). And then again that's exactly what he's doing while paradoxically pointing away from it. So yeah, maybe it is kinda brilliant. I'm sure he would read this post and say that I'm totally clueless though lol

[@responsibleadultorami]

@@bryantcofty2709 What Jim is doing is taking away all points of identification, knowing, and seeking. Just continue to trust yourself regarding any teacher/teaching and you'll be OK

[@bryantcofty2709]

"Paradoxically" though seeking to know the identity of the "Self's" identity remains. That's why we're all here including Jim (at least that's what initially brought him through the door). I get it though and it's an interesting approach (VERY ZEN obviously). "i" agree with with your advice to continue trusting in teachers and teachings that intuitively appeal to you. This may be too advanced for "my" mind at this stage. I'm actually very drawn to Advaita Vedanta at the present time and particularly the Swami who's the lead voice (whatever his title is) of Vedanta New York. I can never remember his name . Aging is a reality (in relative/transitional reality) lol.

[@FirstPersonHood]

I can't stop replaying this video!

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Thank you enjoy

[@builderbob3149]

Same...

[@keesboers]

What an excellent interview John. Amazing how you (who is not there ;) 'steer the wheel' in asking questions, listening, reflecting, speaking, asking questions again. I loved your role in this conversation with Jim!

[@andrewhussey8702]

Super discussion on Nothing . What a relief. Fabulous John well done.

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Thank you kindly!

[@bpotter9769]

Great interview 👍✨ It’s indeed so obvious that the fact that we can be dissatisfied and that we can be seeking for more or better is obviously the absolute proof of unconditional freedom If we would not be unconditionally free then we obviously would not be free to be disappointed or dissatisfied etc or to seek etc This unconditional freedom is obviously nothingness - the unspecified ‘that what already is’ - Nothing else then nothingness can be unconditionally free, no start no end Truly wonderful and so obvious ! There is nobody steering the ship 🛳👍 and better even ! there is or never was even a ship ! The ship is the illusionary entirely psychological - I Am - that obviously never ever was really real Thanks so much for this wonderful info I’m cooked 😅👍✨🤗 Wonderful! 🌺🙏

[@Absolutely-nothing80]

Wonderful, deep and profound message by Jim sir. I am forever grateful to Jim Newman for sharing this message. So well articulated and explained in simple language.This message is the best gift of my life.Thank you interviewer for uploading the video.

[@carlrichards9333]

Your a Great Interviewer Bro , especially under such Hopelessness... Absolutely Beautiful Communication that once heard beyond hearing then there is no getting away from it....🙏

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

I appreciate that

[@Tangentbordsblues]

Your? Are you sure?

[@kam7561]

Jim's way of dismantling the delusion is mind blowing BOOM! Great conversation, thank you ❤

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

your welcome. Thanks for the positive feedback..

[@kirala444]

This is the best interview ever. Good grief.

[@mrmanfitz]

2:16 "There's actually no way to have a discussion about this."

[@Jacadz]

Wild. Exhilarating. Amazing. Freedom. No start or end. A continuous ride. It’s not continuous. That’s the dream of me. And I’m really in charge. So there’s nobody steering the ship. Already. And nothing needs to happen for that. This is actually nothing. Lovely conversation. Deep deep. Show me something that isn’t THIS. 👍

[@warricksoto3766]

An observance of the body interacting with an environment is what happens! But, there is no OBSERVER! RIDICULOUSLY SIMPLE!

[@josephsaff]

Such a rare treat- where both interviewer and interviewee are 'messaging' together

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Thank you 🙏

[@cindyscott8470]

Thank you so much John, love the discarded compass!

[@builderbob3149]

This is my favorite interview, to date. I've been watching lot's of non duality channels lately, however I keep returning to this interview. There's something in this interview, that keeps calling me back. There is stuff here that my mind can't fully comprehend. However, I feel that there's a simplicity to Jims message, that's overwhelming my mind... I would love to see you interviewing Angelo DiLullo. He has a KZbin chanell called simply always awake. Terrence Stephens, also has a KZbin channel.

[@theatonementsight]

I love that ... UNWILLINGLY!!! True dat! So simple Jim - just beautiful!

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Glad you like it!

[@theaustralianhulk]

You should rename your channel “the Constant Nothing”!!! 😂 Bro you are doing an amazing job interviewing no one about nothing! Your face, the struggle and then the unbridled laughter, love it

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Not a bad idea

[@Sethan777]

Thank you 👏 What a joy hearing that. 🥳 A beautiful conversation.

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@kiana5879]

This has been the most wonderful delightful conversation thank you both 🙂

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@earlgibbs7083]

A stunningly brilliant interview. Simply this is just wild and free!

[@keithoyoung34]

Man that was a deadly interview brother. Great job.

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@misscosmicdotcom]

"..there is desperateness in hope..", I once heard. It's so true

[@Marphale]

This interviewer is a legend.

[@derekt5026]

And nothing ever happens Nothing happens at all The needle returns to the start of the song And we all sing along like before (Del Amitri) Many Thanks John & Jim A great interview

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Hi Derek.. Yep great song very apt.. I love music too and all the good things life has to offer...Don't let the needle get stuck playing a lopp.. Life is potential not non dual bypassing too :)

[@xenajade6264]

God, pizza.... 😂 Mindblowing to listen to Jim, thanks for these videos. Amazing to have found non duality ❤

[@richardbelisle4807]

Still enjoy this conversation thank you…

[@jimrich4192]

"This is Nothing handing"....Wow, I almost got it! Wonderful interview, thanx....

[@glenngerardus51]

i like the word...already

[@kathyashby6019]

I love this topic. Another source for non-duality is the Advaita Vendanta - the original source from the vedic teachings. This resonated SO deeply!! In May, I discovered my new favorite teacher - Swami Sarvapriyananda (Swamiji). His method of explaining, the clarity and detail is absolutely amazing. I had an out of body experience (twice - 2 months apart) - while simply walking in my house in early 2019. I had called it 'being aware of being aware of my body' - since I was about 15 feet above, I just watched my body walk around and felt completely disconnected from it - 'it' meant nothing to 'me'. It wasn't until I returned back to the body that I was aware of that understanding because while I was 'up there', there was NO JUDGEMENT of anything - there was no thought - just neutral/blank. They lasted about 10 seconds... Then, this spring I stumbled on Rupert Spira (which I hadn't watched in a couple of years before) on a video discussing his book which he had written some years ago called "Being Aware of Being Aware" - the same words I used in 2019 to explain what I 'experienced'. It was a great validation for me. I was then comfortable to tell my family about it. Funny, but even my other favorites - Bashar, Eckhart Tolle, Deepak Chopra, Alan Watts, had all spoken of this - for many years.....I just didn't 'hear' it. I had to experience it, I guess. lol. Well, as the saying goes: "when the student is ready, the teacher will appear".

[@capibara49]

Best interview ever on this "topic"... Thx to both

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Thank you 🙏

[@life13525]

what a wonderful exchange

[@framichetti]

Thanks a lot for sharing. Lovely and enjoyable conversation.

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Thank you :)

[@payt01]

Jim is a sort of end of the line kind of guy, it seems. I love his absolute no-nonse nihilism. Straight to the core.. lol.. he can finish an interview in 3 seconds flat and have an interviewer at a loss for words. lol

[@LarsTaunus]

it's actually not nihilism---quite the contrary. He has that all there is is that which can't be described.

[@siobhanoconnell2065]

What a joy to watch. A delight. A treat. A beautiful riffing. Funny. Gentle. Very funny. Joyful and on and on......... Thank you both.

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Hi Siobhain thanks for your lovely feedback

[@superjumpingjason]

"The constant nothing!" Ha! Yeah! Thanks so much for this interview! Brilliant!

[@nothingiseverything-dasmys6992]

Absolutely wonderful!

[@Pninau94]

Wonderfully honest...

[@augmentedphallus4596]

Thank you for your open minded conversation!

[@anneb.7417]

Great interview! Thanks for uploading again.

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Hi Anne thanks for viewing and the heads up .. so happy you got pleasure and insight from our interview .. It’s about the message .. not the messenger or “guru”

[@StareAtTheCeiling]

Keep up those interviews!

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Thank you … much appreciated

[@misschris662]

Great Job, John! ❤️

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Thank you very much :)

[@andrewhussey8702]

Just Nothinging with James & John ! Join the Party and Enjoy.

[@ultrablue7477]

The motto of this site: "A channel about self enquiry and the search for spiritual enlightenment." In light of this interview, it should be modified, because: There is no self. And all searching is an illusion. But the motto was not changed. Is this one of those places where they sell vitamins and cigarettes at the same time?

[@prajnabala]

great interview about THIS! nothing! Perfect with morning coffee.

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Thanks and enjoy your coffee ☕️

[@michaelpudney]

'He's talking about ABIDING IN THE MYSTERY.

[@Anastasia-oy2zp]

LOVE JIM 🙏

[@MP-sc7zc]

John thank you so much for creating this podcast. These are the conversations that help me …seem to help “me” … in such a profound way. I’m grateful. I very much look forward to whatever happens or doesn’t happen next from you. Your authentic questions genuinely reflect my own as you go. Thanks, keep going.

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Your very welcome. And thanks for the great feedback

[@Joyabulthuis]

Beautiful interview!

[@Joyabulthuis]

Or better word “ conversation “

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Thanks so much for your positive feedback

[@MicheleZaylaMusic]

Enjoyed this interview John. Always like your questions with your guests, and how you get right to it, and get into all the nuance. Feels like the "real" shit :)

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

thank you

[@FirstPersonHood]

Thanks!

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Thank you so much :) You are awesome..blessings

[@davidfong7848]

Thank you for doing this interview because Jim doesn’t allow comments on his channel and neither does Tony Parsons and I think some viewers can actually help describe the characteristics of what is being talked about. The questions being asked by this interviewer and the people on Jim’s zoom calls makes it apparent that the nature of THIS isn’t understood. “What happened to you [to allow you to understand this]?” is not possible because there is no you or me and there is no past. The past and the individual (you or me) is just an appearance just as the sky or the sound of your breath is an appearance. It is believed to be real because it appears to be. In the THIS that Jim is talking about everything is just apparent, an appearance, including time, choice, individuals, sight, touch, even purpose. One thing I’m unclear on is, he often says there is no meaning behind it all even though there appears to be. I’m not sure how he can conclude this to a certainty. It would appear to me that there is equal likelihood that there is some purpose behind it all, that we will never be able to verify

[@jJaqStone]

Purpose is a concept conceived in the mind & applied to everything perceived by the mind. The person, appearing as a separate entity within a reality of things, seeks to know what everything is, why it is, what it does, & how it works out of a primordial desire to feel safe. Knowing, which is of course not personal, makes the person feel safe. Assigning meaning & purpose to everything is part of that process. So meaning & purpose are very real, & important, to the person. But the person is the dreamt. Can any of us ever know why this dualistic universe appears? I don't think so. It would be like a fictional character stepping out of a book to observe the author. The fictional character does not exist outside the book. Whether there is a purpose or not appears to be unknowable, at least to these appearing persons. Thank you for posting your thoughts, David.

[@davidfong7848]

@@jJaqStone "Can any of us ever know why this dualistic universe appears? I don't think so. It would be like a fictional character stepping out of a book to observe the author. The fictional character does not exist outside the book. Whether there is a purpose or not appears to be unknowable, at least to these appearing persons." Exactly. So how can it be concluded, as Jim does, that there is no purpose to THIS?

[@FirstPersonHood]

@@davidfong7848 Every purpose is possible conceptually. Jim points out all conception is dream like.

[@davidfong7848]

@@FirstPersonHood I don't think we are talking about the same thing. You're talking about purpose as an appearance. I'm talking about Jim and Tony concluding, absolutely, that there is no meaning behind "what's happening" "no thing appearing as everything" "this". Jim asserts that it is pure and total chaos without meaning and I'm unsure how that conclusion can be made.

[@FirstPersonHood]

@@davidfong7848 call him.

[@richardbelisle4807]

Ignorance is truly bliss…..yes.. .but even that never really felt comfortable …..

[@Jivanmuktaintraining]

Is the story of Jim's eureka moment to be found anywhere online? He does not seem to want to speak about it.

[@marksmith2298]

The second one try’s to explain what it is, it’s exactly what it isn’t. It reminds me of the Alice in wonderland quote. Alice: "If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is because everything would be what it isn't. And contrariwise, what it is, it wouldn't be, and what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?" 👍

[@Dsdafg]

Great interview.!

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Thanks you 😊

[@warricksoto3766]

U did it! Finally, real MAGICK! Infinite appreciation for perfect work just happening! Magnum Opus arises!

[@warricksoto3766]

Ur show is INCALCULABLE SIMPLICITY! ORDINARY MAGICK! The perceived is the body watching ur shows, but not the perceiver! WIZARDRY AT NO ONE'S DISPOSAL!

[@warricksoto3766]

U need to interview WALLY J. SOTO which is another communicate at the level! Maybe one day it will apparently happen! Immense appreciation for the work u apparently do!

[@warricksoto3766]

That level! Excuse TYPO!

[@cassavates]

You are totally heartwarmingly honest and cute and real (and unreal, I know I know.. ☺️♥️😜)

[@constanceleone]

Thanks for Nothing💜

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

You're welcome 😊 lol

[@AuntyHoney]

All is No thing. Thank you 🙏💜🙏

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Your welcome 🙏

[@adamwatson826]

Love this

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@richardbelisle7626]

Thank you

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

You welcome 🙏

[@FirstPersonHood]

Time is "I am"

[@FirstPersonHood]

YAHOOOO

[@rosa-boom-nonduality]

💗

[@NadiaFranke]

He says: "THIS is nothing" what is the "This" ?

[@jordanbates111]

is THIS nothing or everything? both, neither, far beyond either

[@julianrobus]

BRILLIANT brain blower 🤯😂🙏❤️

[@whippet71]

Jim Newman takes everything and nothing to the mat, but there is no Jim Newman and there is no mat. One (1) is truely the 'loneliest number' and one(1) hooks up with zero (0) to become an illusion that is the simulation we experience.

[@jimrich4192]

WOW......just this! No thing ...apparently showing up........OMG!🤣

[@davidhallowell9211]

Really wish you'd talk to Roger Linden.

[@Alexandre_Zulu]

I'm just laughing a lot here when I see the face of the interviewer. He's like me...completely lost...Lol. This is hopeless.

[@Cool-nq9bd]

“What you’re looking for is this...”Jim somehow manages to outdo himself in conveying the message of “what is” in an interview that somehow brings the conceptual framework around what can’t be known into sharper focus

[@emojiking8580]

. ↕️ ↔️ 🕉 ↔️ ↕️ .

[@lior8467]

This is great thank you! What is the song in the end?

[@TheDiscardedCompass]

The song was composed by a musician and myself ..

[@lior8467]

Beutiful! I would like to listen if you publish somthing

[@iangoss7841]

Like being tickled in unknown places😊

[@memeaddict4202]

This dude just scares me

[@christinaforras]

🤣🤣🤣 thank you for a good laugh

[@mikes6403]

I hope the interviewer had used a better Mic. Hardly can hear him

[@FirstPersonHood]

Wow

[@ralphricart3177]

I'm a zealous seeker and l have to say that after wallowing in non-duality for some time it pales in the face of Gnostic truth by Wikker. You might say it blows it out of the water.

[@wladicus1]

At 45:30 - "It's nothing happening" ... When you say 'nothing', do you mean by that word "NO THING"? In which case is it that which is not a thing? And in that case, what does 'not a thing' mean? Is it implying to that which is beyond the illusions of thought? And in that case, what does that mean? ......... ...... ..... .... .. .

[@wladicus1]

@@miguelpais123_Sorry that you cannot understand it. You see that which is not a thing is beyond the capacity of the mind to comprehend. If it was 'something' (some thing), then THINGS are objects that the mind projects or perceives and thus it makes up its own meanings for things. However, NO THING (i.e. that which is not an object) cannot be apprehended in any way by mental processes. Thus Jim and Tony Parsons make up the saying that "nothing is happening" which logically follows from the above discussion, as far as mind is concerned.

[@niallbourke7963]

It's not only Jim and Tony, when Nizargadatta was asked "'What's the bottom line?' He replied: 'Nothing has ever happened'.

[@wladicus1]

@@niallbourke7963 _ Thanks

[@kakhabertukhashvili9367]

But he's fun, I have to admit, but there is nothing to admit, its just this!

[@specialeeffexx]

So wouldn’t the ‘Everything’ be one big someone/something?

[@graceoline]

I guess it can’t because if it was specifically something it would be NOT something else- which isn’t possible because every Something exists within Everything.

[@kakhabertukhashvili9367]

Ha, ha, its the beginning and the end of it simultaneously! Crazy isn't it?!

[@bbana1745]

"Ego" comes from Latin and means "I". The negative connotation of the word is a classic mental twist/trap out of the instinct of self-preservation.

[@rafaelafonso312]

🎹🎼🎵🎷🎶🎵

[@kenjones7719]

Ishwara wields Maya.

[@danielboomers]

pizza i like...lol

[@FirstPersonHood]

The person is an expression attempting to understand that which expressed it. Absolutely impossible!

[@simonedefilippo6389]

Like a word trying to understand where it came from, once spoken

[@dfmrrd]

I find it hard to grasp how "this is nothing". We can experience awareness and it is ~something

[@augmentedphallus4596]

How can you grasp nothing? You can’t, which is the point. It shows the futility of “knowing”. It’s not that it is nothing either, it is nothing and something at the same time. Nothing being something. Lol.

[@FirstPersonHood]

@@augmentedphallus4596 search the term AJATA

[@williamd946]

how can separation not be the result of conditioning, when "I am ness" is a belief? ... aka conditioning

[@FirstPersonHood]

just his opinion.

[@Gdad-20]

There literally is nothing/ no thing here. Not even a here, for there to be a nothing/no thing appearing to happen. So even that which seem`s to be happening, isn`t really happening. And no, there is no answer to the question. Why. Certainly there is no point, purpose, or reason.

[@kevinraytab1980]

Perhaps the escape from samsara? Evolving???

[@caseyanderson2345]

Question for those who resonate with non-duality: Why?

[@FirstPersonHood]

Obvious

[@caseyanderson2345]

@@FirstPersonHood Not for me. I ressonate with non-duality, but I don't know why. It's so dissonate to everything else I've grown to love in spirituality.

[@FirstPersonHood]

@@caseyanderson2345 read Douglas Harding's books, especially THE FACE GAME.

[@caseyanderson2345]

@@FirstPersonHood I will, thank you.

[@whowonthatballgame4298]

Teachings help for a little while . No teaching no help with this