4 Kpop Idols Got Their Mind SPOILED By The Public

[@wueeure]

Mark’s “controversy” should be renamed nctzens being spoiled, if you cared about Marks health you wouldnt be complaining about him missing a show in his birthday , he was upset enough for preparing for weeks for the show and ended up not being able to perform. He litteraly has so many schedules , he is overworked, and just because he missed one show you guys completely forget about all the shows/performances/comebacks he did?? They are the spoiled af

[@wueeure]

Btw im nctzen, but just because we get to see Mark soo many times because of him being in Nct dream and 127 doesnt mean im not fed up with nctzens being spoiled Other fandoms have to wait YEARS to see their favs and we are lucky enough to have this many content, so stop complaining

[@faerykpop]

I am a NCTzen and Mark is one of my Ults, I think it’s the fans being spoiled asf. It’s sad that fans can’t grasp that. He is one of the most hardest working members considering he’s in the most groups I think. I don’t think he was being spoiled at all. They’re just being ungrateful.

[@kpopsweetlemon1396]

i agree

[@amythist5734]

@@wueeure that is the thing here, other fandom needs to wait for a year for their faves while us waits when would Mark and Haechan rest at least for two or one week. If you really follow NCT you will know while some of us are complaining about Mark being over worked. I would love to wait for them for a year than them being overworked and no time for themselves, we must think about their health especially Mark since I believe he is the most overworked idol in the industry right now.

[@luffyoongles]

EXACTLY like bro cmonn

[@3mo2k25]

"stealing the spotlight?" The IG LIVE WAS ON MARK'S BIRTHDAY. It was something that fans (who didn't have the luxury of being at the fanmeeting in Japan) were very much looking forward to. Also, markfs were worried about Mark testing positive for C-19 and that's why he tried to reassure everyone that he was negative and recovering

[@faerykpop]

I was watching that IG live, he was reassuring that he was fine and better, but they were just taking extra precautions for his health which some fans don’t seem to get. It’s sad.

[@3mo2k25]

@@faerykpop exactly and I am so GLAD they took those precautions because Mark's health (and fans health for that matter) will always come before a fanmeeting

[@faerykpop]

@@3mo2k25 Yes, it will.

[@kpopsweetlemon1396]

exactly

[@earthshuman3864]

At first they forced them When they acted how they wanted They are calling them spoiled 🙄

[@bigfanbigfan8283]

Lol,, it's two sided... netizens are wrong for the expectations and idols are wrong for fulfilling the wrong expectations and not being true to themselves and promoting a bad thing..... it's not like there aren't famous or successful singer who are not so called good looking....Idols nowadays care too much about money to do any right thing....and netizens are shit ....

[@Alejand883]

Fr 😒

[@candysofia5769]

They are spoiled because sopil people act as whatever they want without careing what people will think or will it effect others they want it they did it it's doesn't look wrong but it is wrong when we do whatever we want

[@jeongjaehyxn]

@@candysofia5769 these people dont even fit them 💀

[@candysofia5769]

@@jeongjaehyxn it does she doesn't even care what people think and don't respect other options. And she doesn't respect korean traditional things eg bowing to elder

[@wannabedrewafualo]

Mark has been through it y’all. That live was on his birthday. Before getting up and arms, breathe, and wait for an explanation. These artists are human beings.

[@yourspritzels]

Mark was all alone on his birthday. Can you imagine how sad that is? Mark Lee is probably one of the most hardworking and equally talented idols out there. He can sing, rap, dance, write, is such a sweetheart, known to be the idol whom no one can hate and this is what he gets?

[@SocialMediaIsntReal]

I only agree with some things you said about Wonyoung, it’s obvious she’s underweight and needs help🤷🏾‍♀️But body shaming her (and Yuna) calling them skeletons and saying their bones are going to break any second isn’t okay.

[@SocialMediaIsntReal]

Plus, this is fans/netizens faults for even pushing these trash beauty standards in the first place People complain about idols being too “fat” (when they aren’t) and then bitch and cry when they loose weight😒(example: Wendy)

[@hystericrabbit]

Yuna wonyoung skinny skeletons

[@SocialMediaIsntReal]

@@hystericrabbit Ur not funny

[@jhilmilgil4512]

It's true tho! The fact that one could literally see her spine! SPINEEEEE

[@SocialMediaIsntReal]

@@jhilmilgil4512 Obviously? I’m talking about literally hating on her and shaming her instead of doing anything to help, then try to play it off as criticism 💀READ PEOPLE READ

[@lendlalfred7870]

Winter has always been petite, I never noticed any weight loss. She looks the same from debut until now.

[@beomgyusfangirl9023]

Yes i think so

[@cernkoc]

+

[@mybmyacc]

yeah I think so too. I didn't even know there was a controversy about that...

[@irneaa]

She's skinny

[@megumegumi174]

she's even skinnier during her predebut

[@thntgrphy]

Netizens wanted the idols to lose weight, then when they actually do, they call them out to be spoiled. THIS IS LITERALLY JEKYLL AND HYDE ARE YOU KIDDING ME

[@aplaraujo250]

I agree

[@leviosa7777]

"Wonyoung looked like she was in the edge of breaking bones" "Walking skeleton" it baffles me how someone can say such statement The way they are body shaming her and yuna in this video is insane

[@yasminchan7425]

I dont think that was the intention, but it could've been phrased in a more appropriate manner..

[@izzyy_249]

They could've been worded more subtly, but it definitely wasn't the intention to offend anyone

[@leviosa7777]

@@yasminchan7425 ikrrr

[@leviosa7777]

@@izzyy_249 yup

[@hystericrabbit]

Wonyoung yuna walking skeletons

[@jay_08.]

For Yuna’s hip pads, you can clearly see she is also uncomfortable with them. She constantly touches them and seems to want them gone. To be honest I think the staff are the ones too obsessed with making her have the perfect body.

[@candysofia5769]

4 gen idols has freedom. Stop blamming staff

[@elpiedra1596]

@@candysofia5769 ROFL

[@glittery_heart3029]

@@candysofia5769 very true 👍👍👍

[@Lizardlarry2000]

The other members don’t have them or at least not that much, so I think she is a bit too much

[@tnlkb6115]

I never thought Winter lost weight. It seem more like she gained more than lost. She still skinny, but now her hips look a bit fuller than before and she has more muscle. You can see it in her recents fancams and the ones in her debut. I am well aware she goes on a diet, but at this point I am not even surprised. This is pretty commun to see in kpop. And until people stop complaining when an idol lose or gain a little bit of weight, we shouldn't blame any idols of trying to live up to beauty standards. It either that or they get bully online. As for Marc "scandal", this is the prove y'all want to control idols action and words. They're not robots. Y'all shouldn't except them to know or do everything y'all believe they should know. And the fact the man had to apologize for being sick in his birthday is pretty fuck up. As long an idol can entertain, perfom and not do something criminal/mean, we shouldn't care about anything they say or do.

[@bigfanbigfan8283]

Lol,, it's two sided... netizens are wrong for the expectations and idols are wrong for fulfilling the wrong expectations and not being true to themselves and promoting a bad thing..... it's not like there aren't famous or successful singer who are not so called good looking....Idols nowadays care too much about money to do any right thing....and netizens are shit ....

[@xaladrez7811]

Idk about the guy Mark but the problem mentioned here is just stupid. Now mark will be thinking ''oh so the reason idols are not honest with their feelings is cuz of this'' and he will decide to be a filtered idol too Idols being honest is cool but also idols being honest is rude. wtf double standards Japanese fans pls keep the respect we have for yall about not being toxic and just stop hating Mark for being human.

[@OldDannyDevito]

Wonyoung happened because "fans" keep on telling her to lose more. She is barely 18 and already has a big problem that could be fatal because people still say to her to lose more.

[@sakura._.]

Not just her but Yuna, Winter and the other idols included happened all because of " Fans "

[@bigfanbigfan8283]

Lol,, it's two sided... netizens are wrong for the expectations and idols are wrong for fulfilling the wrong expectations and not being true to themselves and promoting a bad thing..... it's not like there aren't famous or successful singer who are not so called good looking....Idols nowadays care too much about money to do any right thing....and netizens are shit ....

[@sakura._.]

@أدريس آدم♂️ ikr

[@OldDannyDevito]

I can't blame Winter, y'all did this to her with the dumb "beauty" standard.

[@creativeunnie8948]

Marks' opinion was so lol for real:) Thinking idols as God is the only thing the new fans in this industry can do to their idols

[@LadySilence]

I think the term spoiled is not used correctly here.

[@suzycloud]

Of course the netizens are to blame. We have voices but no faces, and we would be silent if a spotlight was shown on us. No, these idols have so much pressure on them, specifically Kpop idols because they are expected to be perfect. As an NCTzen, I support Mark full heartedly. Mark isn't perfect, he's a young man who is still growing and learning. We are so lucky to have an idol as talented and genuine as him. 💚💚

[@NazNaz1997]

ppl just expect too much from idols.

[@kenyoung6666]

Yep, the culprits are netizens and even toxic fans who tell idols they're not skinny enough! Remember Suli from FX? There was a toxic male fan who outrightly told her to lose more weight because she "wasn't to his standards" when he wasn't even good looking himself. I hope idols don't lose themselves and do everything to cater to their fans. While its important to have fans as fans determine their income but health and self-worth is always most important. If idols have decades of poor diet and health, by the time their idol career is over, they'd be spending their hard earned money on medicine instead of retirement.

[@Sour-Rosy]

I mean what could we say Beboss always says toxic things

[@jaejaenu]

true💀

[@gisofkntalented]

Yes:)

[@skillbopster]

Then don't watch anymore.

[@Sour-Rosy]

@@skillbopster don't worry

[@Sal03MA]

Why blaming netizens when all the blame should be on the fan base itself because they are the people who talks about how slim their idols are and how pretty they are

[@yasminchan7425]

"Perfect body proportions" and they show Jang Wonyoung, who's clearly not healthy and NEEDS help.. and some people are still shocked to see idols starve themselves?

[@izzyy_249]

Exactly, it's so sad

[@mybmyacc]

Skinny, chubby, fat, whatever your body looks like, as long as you are healthy, you're beautiful, it's the best. Winter baby love youuuu 😭Let's always stay healthy.

[@rejectionnnn]

Isn’t Marks whole situation them complaining over a little annoyance though….. like what ever happened was out of his control 🙄

[@sora-ren1939]

netizens are at fault for doing this to every idol. whether it's out of concern or hate, talking about their (idols) body is HARMFUL to them. the best thing to do is support them, praise them, and DON'T talk about their body. it's already weird as hell to talk about their body, like why are you so obssessed with their body? let them live and eat what they want in peace. i really just wish SNS, instagram, or any social media these idols have access to can be modded or just filtered.

[@mappaeliphas8885]

Aespa and Itzy still live together, so if they are on a diet it's not because they want to, but more like the agency controls what they can eat and how much. Plus, most of the times idols lose weight due to being overworked and eating more won't really help them gain weight, resting is the only thing that allows their bodies to get better, and Itzy and Aespa are not resting enough.

[@يونيكيتي]

I guess I was just thinking about the channel. And I was really happy to receive a new video notification. I think idols shouldn't care what netizens think. Only their fans. Because they support them. They wish them the best.

[@bigfanbigfan8283]

Lol,, it's two sided... netizens are wrong for the expectations and idols are wrong for fulfilling the wrong expectations and not being true to themselves and promoting a bad thing..... it's not like there aren't famous or successful singer who are not so called good looking....Idols nowadays care too much about money to do any right thing....and netizens are shit ....

[@bigfanbigfan8283]

@أدريس آدم♂️ lol,,,and idols care too much about money that they do it even if it's wrong 😴

[@bigfanbigfan8283]

@أدريس آدم♂️ right.. it's just that they shouldn't be called Idols... artist would suit

[@jeromydatu569]

winter right now watching be like : 😏 knowing winter wont even give a fuck about this

[@rawaa9646]

Poor winter 💔💔

[@somebodygill8666]

Being a visual isn't easy either. Those girlies definitely spoiled by to the pressure of looking unrealistic.

[@laylamage5218]

Bruh Mark is innocent wth

[@earthshuman3864]

Ye make them uncomfortable for their body And call them spoiled too

[@bigfanbigfan8283]

Lol,, it's two sided... netizens are wrong for the expectations and idols are wrong for fulfilling the wrong expectations and not being true to themselves and promoting a bad thing..... it's not like there aren't famous or successful singer who are not so called good looking....Idols nowadays care too much about money to do any right thing....and netizens are shit ....

[@Uchiha.watashi]

Mark joking about an earthquake seriously isn’t a big deal, people joke about stuff like that all the time , for some people it’s easier to cope with stuff by joking about it, why are people so damn sensitive ugh

[@NagataYuki5]

TOC NETIZENS ARE THE ONLY GUILTY HERE!! Poor babies... They're also human...

[@ticketyblue3080]

It’s crazy to place standards then get mad when they try to reach it.

[@safz15]

Both netizens and idols should be blamed. First netizens dont have rights to complain abt someone's body and then the idols arent babies, some should know people may hate them no matter what. They're doing this bcoz they too want spotlight, coz there are idols who are confident with they way the are, and dont change for others. You should be confident abt yourself

[@minhtuannguyen8176]

For me knetz should be blamed even more than idols

[@boraloves7761]

Exactly

[@boraloves7761]

@@minhtuannguyen8176 nope both

[@kihara4244]

I feel bad for Winter🤧😭

[@bigfanbigfan8283]

lol,,,and idols care too much about money that they do it even if it's wrong 😴

[@cernkoc]

@@bigfanbigfan8283 care too much about money? lmao?? this is their JOB b*stard.

[@kihara4244]

@@bigfanbigfan8283 Do you know her personaly?

[@bigfanbigfan8283]

@@kihara4244 I'm not dumb like you to not know the obvious 😴

[@queenavocado9441]

The only true 4th gen idol who doesn’t give a shit about weight and what netizens say is gidles shuhua

[@caremyu]

I don’t understand how netizens spoiled these idols’ mind?…more like they damaged or ruined the idols’ mind to me

[@Ashi_D1218]

Idol Worship is the dumbest thing ever... Kpop is addictive cuz they live out our fantasies... Perfect girlfriend/boyfriend image

[@dubustolejiminsjams8002]

wonyoung and Yuna were healthy in their debut era especially wonyoung, but ever since I saw her in eleven, it makes me scared about what is gonna happen to her, I don’t want her to end up in hospital for starving herself and I certainly don’t want netizens to keep encouraging her to loose more weight, this is the last thing I will say, in her eleven era she looked more thicker than she does now. Pls netizens Stop encouraging to do these things that will cause her to end up in the hospital.

[@nabila2893]

I actually agree with this comment other than the other ones comparing her body and yes she does look much skinnier than when she previously did, and I blame all of this on netizens STOP TALKING ABOUT IDOLS BODIES AND HOW THEY LOOK (to netizens).

[@mybmyacc]

WAIT. I didn't know there was a diet controversy about Winter... I think she naturally has a small body frame, like that one video in Knowing Bros where that guy pointed out how thin Winter's ankle is... But if she really is starving herself, Please, I hope not.

[@shrestha841]

Leave Winter alone u highly opinionated Netizens

[@elisawatson8817]

But...Winter looked skinner before tho? In black mamba and savage era she was waayyy skinnier I don't know what they are talking about

[@busiswasweleni7926]

Spoiled is he "MARK" excuse me don't even

[@AnkitaSchouhan]

I love winter no mater what❤️🌸

[@bigfanbigfan8283]

lol,,,and idols care too much about money that they do it even if it's wrong 😴

[@kpopislifeline4445]

Even if she is racist you will love her ?

[@blossomberry8809]

@@kpopislifeline4445 😭😭😭😭

[@bubblywinter6729]

@@kpopislifeline4445 Has she ever done anything racist? To my knowledge, no she hasn’t. So don’t bring that bs into the conversation when a fan of hers was just trying to be nice and stand by their bias.

[@averyohara6376]

@@kpopislifeline4445 bro was she ever racist? In fact, Giselle was the one who mouthed the n word

[@coffee5276]

These people who bash girls in the industry for having e**ing d*sorters would definitely also be the ones to pick on and harass someone who was aspiring to be an idol with a slightly heavier build. These people are toxic and put their own opinions first and not the feelings of others.

[@moaengene2172]

Anyways Mark and Wonyoung are slayer

[@shinejwon7128]

I think WONYOUNG deserves an apology for whatever things u said about her

[@s律-z8l]

Other idols too

[@shinejwon7128]

@@s律-z8l its totally nonsense about them making this accusations cuz most kpop idol are skinny

[@s律-z8l]

@@shinejwon7128 yeah but I mean, many kpop idols nowadays (mostly 4th gen gg) are going under harsh diets in order to appeal fans. The thing with kpop is that fans nowadays praise their idols for everything (doens't mean it's necessary bad) so kpop idols feels pressured to maintain and keep the same reputation otherwise fans would feel " betrayed" or disappointed. I think that in some sort of way it's time to let fans and other netizens have the right to criticize and tell their opinions (Ofc hating isn't allowed, but to avoid fans getting crazy over it , we should learn people the difference between hate and criticism) as it may help in some way the idols. When idols always see that they're getting praised and hated at the same time for a simple thing they feel pressured more than ever. If we show them that it's okay that sometimes something doesn't appeal fans, then they will probably try to avoid being unhealthy and going on harsh diets.

[@shinejwon7128]

@@s律-z8l The question is that its normal for a KPOP industry, but what im saying is that rather than them hating they should support the idols if they really cared, and most idols are but why this youtuber only target some idols like wonyoung and winter. and its part of her job shes doing well and no matter what thats their opinion, try to think of the kpop idol view and the pressures of being an idol they can just judge do u like it if someone judge u for ur weight u see its a hate for ex like liz they fatshamed her its all hate that all

[@s律-z8l]

@@shinejwon7128 I agree

[@topsu9868]

Im feel sad Yuna, because netizen throw fear and hate to Yuna. secondly, there are quite a fatphobia about k-pop and in South Korea in general

[@boraloves7761]

Exactly

[@skillbopster]

There is no such thing as 'fatphobia'. Read the definition of phobia.

[@user-ig3kq8gn9y]

Idk but I think Winter look more healthy than her debut era now

[@luffyoongles]

mark did nothing wrong wtf

[@raelynn9352]

Okay, callingpeople skeletons and saying things like their bones will break etc, is body shaming. I do not give a heck what anyone says. You have no clue what theyre dealing with, you have no say and no right to put people down and use backhanded comments towards someone you have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE who they are. People need to stop being straight up bullies. Why cant people focus on their own problems before voicing their useless and rude opinions on people they do not know. Damn. Cant tell you how stupid and disgusting that truly is.

[@mama-wh3dv]

Yall enough, seriously this is enough. We all are not having any less problems irl, including our Idols. Can't we just have a good time within the fandom hm? Can we just enjoy the music and other contents??? Life is already so hard, atleast let's not ruin the only thing which gives genuine happiness to many people out there. This not just employs on the Idols or fandoms mentioned here, but just in general. Let's just stop giving someone so hard time including yourself. I'm so done at this point. Just stop this, don't ruin the only hope I have in life, pls.

[@freyaallan3267]

winter literally didn’t lose any weight. she looks perfect

[@-venusx]

ikr

[@mommaarc972]

Exactly what pisses me off is people are like omg her body is beautiful then all of a sudden it's omg shes this and that and doing this for attention. Y'all need to make up your mind and realize what you say can really effect someone. Stop criticizing and worry about your own lives and stop putting others lives in your hands and playing with them

[@taniatani2510]

If Japanese are complaining about something then you need to know it's serious.

[@roseyrose_jadiebelle]

You better take mark off this list

[@yourspritzels]

I AGREE.

[@FWE523]

When the idols lose weight they get for that and when they gain weight they also get hate for that

[@gahyuns]

Winter gained weight and plus winter is the shy introvert of aespa the way ppl r portraying her is just weird

[@curiochronicless]

winter's cool but imo karina seems more like a visual

[@cernkoc]

winter is official visual keep cry lol

[@Blueming_345]

@@cernkoc bro even karina is now considered the group's visual as well...so I guess stop crying?

[@cernkoc]

@@Blueming_345 you are the one who is crying lmao?? ah these solo karina stans are so brat...

[@JiaPia3]

This video gave me goosebumps. I’m kinda scared for female idols.

[@tinktatkat]

This is an incorrect and terrible use of the word spoiled. The 3 girls are not spoiled they are victims of the pressures of being idols (especially visuals) and the unrealistic expectations people have of them. They are damned if they gain any weight or go way too far underweight. But at the end of the day they get more praise, support, opportunities etc for being thin. What happened with Liz in Ive is a great example.

[@michellejones9288]

the craziest thing is it's not hip pads👀

[@juwoos]

these weirdos need to leave mark alone.

[@prettyzah__]

LMFAOOOO NOT THEM MAD CUZ MARK DGAF

[@chaelisa5402]

When you are young everything looks good like dieting using cosmetics But when you get aged, it makes you regret. So don't try dieting when you are fit Diet only if you are over weighted Just be healthy , this is enough

[@bapbaby4life503]

I think both are to blame, kpop fans putting too much high expectations on idols especially when it comes to beauty standards, and idols themselves for giving into fans demands, even their companies. I also believe if you keep planting the "beauty goddess or handsome god" into and idols head, it really does go to their head.

[@koira163]

(TW; Eating disorder discussion) Yuna and Wonyoung seem to be just another case of impossible and UNHEALTHY beauty standards claiming new victims. If they were heavier people would claim they are too fat and ugly because of it. But now that they are trying to live to the standard, people claim they promote ED and diet culture (ignoring that MOST OF the Korean media promotes these already VERY heavily, but Korea is a perfect place that can do no wrong, right? (sarcasm)). And no, there is nothing wrong with being naturally skinny. I was really skinny for most of my childhood and teenage years. I didn't really gain weight. But the thing is when you ARE skinny, and it's all people see you as. You start to think that being skinny is your only good quality so you can easily slip into unconscious ED and not even realize it. And most bodies start to gain more fat tissue as we get older, especially AFAB people. I think people forget these are all young people, just like us. They have the same insecurities and self-hate as we do, but most of us don't get 24/7 feedback on whether we gained weight or if we lost too much weight. This isn't to say people shouldn't call out when a person seems really unhealthily skinny, especially if it's known that they are on a diet despite it. But the sad reality is, if it is ED, the victim doesn't see it themselves. ED is a mental disorder that can distort your perspective on reality, they need medical and psychological help in most times. No one suddenly decides to put themself through that.

[@risa_4790]

You really can't blame them, when people continuosly praise for your figure or dressing style or face or anything, it pressurise you to maintain the same thing otherwise people will be disappointed in you. And for an idol it's a huge deal. Because more people are watching them the more they are getting paid. One thing more the netizens obviously need some education... That anime character are drawn character.. they can't be in real. How could you expect a person to look like a manga or webtoon character ? 👀

[@hades3830]

idols are literally just human beings, and i think a lot of netizens forget that. i've had anorexia for the past 7 years, and when it comes to comments on my body, praise and criticism are both triggering. praise makes me want to keep starving because i'm doing something "right", but it also hurts because people will praise my body at my most unhealthy and not know all the pain i go through to get there, and it makes me feel like i have to stay skinny to be praised and liked. i do not blame these girls for falling into disordered behaviour when they have millions of eyes on them, constantly watching and analyzing their every move. especially having seen how harsh netizens can be when their opinion turns for the worst, of course these idols would want to uphold an image that gains them praise. as for marks "controversy", i don't see what he did wrong. it seems like netizens are taking things out of context to fit their own narrative. so what if he was disappointed about not being able to play basketball? that doesn't mean he wasn't also disappointed about missing the fan meet. he probably mentioned the basketball thing because it was more fresh in his mind. either way, fans trying to micromanage his feelings and what he says is not okay.

[@loveylunaa]

Anyways #StanWinter ❤️

[@Bibi-J]

Rule in life: You can't satisfy Everybody. Make sure you are satisfied about yourself ! (for YOU!)

[@Violet-un9tb]

Wonyoung's case is quiet concerning and serious. I don't like speaking on idols weight because if they are under weight because they are getting attention and in their mind it is good and their weight loss is working. I belive that speaking on these things is more hurtful than ignoring it because it's almost like encourging them. At the begining I totally ignored her weight but now it's actually becoming dangerous. Shes been recorded holding her hand on her chest because she couldn't breath while not on camera, she is hurting herself and her situation is serious. I don't thinl i'll speak on her weight again but I needes to explain that it isn't something to make fun of and joke about because i've seen people doing exactly that.

[@bjyxszd2109]

Wahhh mark literally went live because it's his birthday... All NCT members celebrates their bday on livestream. So why would he criticize for it... My ghoddd and they call themselves Japanese "nctzens" when they were only there to support Mark ONLY. What a hypocrisy 🙄🤨

[@giwskou]

You need to be for real now. Like you are the spoiled one here. You will never be like them.

[@lifeisstillgoingon119]

Please stop saying that Mark is spoiled it's those mindless people who called themselves fan but never care about the health of their idol, Mark is always being overworked along with Haechan do you think it's easy to be in two units and promote them continuously one after another. They will still blame if Mark have COVID-19 and attend the concert too so please atleast be grateful that he atleast got a little rest instead of calling him spoiled or whatever negative things you all called him because if you were the one who is in his place i don't think you will even be able to stand properly so atleast be thankful that he always work hard for us

[@ebenezersuico5055]

Well for Wonyoung,Yuna and Winter it wasn't their fault. Wonyoung is forced and brainwashed to diet and act cute. Same goes to Winter and Yuna.

[@whatsupbuttercup156]

PSA: Men, when escorting a lady, please offer your arm when going on stairs.

[@marianafrancisco7551]

Netizens are wayyy to powerful and wayy to dumb at the same time !! They expect too much from their idols when in reality netizens cant even do half of what idols do daily !!! And the agencies are ones to blame too cause they dont realize that idols are just normal humans beings living supposedely their own dream !!!

[@yujiminmylove]

why is this channel still alive?

[@Rosaa_dlo]

Bcz their videos are usefull even if it’s a channel farm we can still watch their videos if they’re good

[@sharonakpan4497]

Still love them

[@charmakhai5493]

But we should also be aware of the power their companies hold. Companies can stop their artists from activities if they have some internal matters with the idol. And give us some shitty excuses too. They can shame their own idols because of the netizens' remarks. So they lose weight unethically and in a unhealthy manner! Netizens are to blame, but the companies are no less evil when it comes to treatments.

[@ryanrosslover712]

i think that one of the reasons that winter is trying so hard is because people were always going on and on about how karina posses a “better” visual ( “” because beauty is subjective ) so she felt more pressure to become “prettier”. no hate!

[@amiboacid7183]

Nah, Yuna just cannot understand she is on V live and not Onlyfans

[@OblivionZXZ]

When you prioritize glamour over art.

[@Rosaa_dlo]

And the fault of....

[@loverintheraining9444]

I don’t want to blame Mark and don’t need to. I just want him to have some rest. Even though one day these things are not out of context and really comes from his mind ,I just wish someone could be careful about that mind of someone who has been working so hard or maybe even overworked. When you are tired it eats up all your mind and body. Could imagine a hood mind of Mark? I can’t even imagine how he would feel about his health each day since that working started.

[@loverintheraining9444]

I meant good mind not hood mind.

[@loverintheraining9444]

Maybe I’m the one who’s out of context here but I just become so worried about him.

[@ClipPerry]

I mean, these idols come from big rich agencies, don't they have nutritionist that take care of their health? Telling them to do balance diet and other healthy stuff? If they do I think the idols can live more healthy life. Do not always blame fans, the agency don't even do anything when the idols get too skinny. If they can control what hair color idols should have then they can control their weight.

[@bluelaguna2993]

Как меня это бесит сначала люди хейтят айдолов за то, что они слишком толстые (хотя айдолы выглядят вполне здорово и красиво) а потом, когда айдол начинает мучить себя диетами и усиленными тренировками, чтобы угодить диванным критикам, те начинают включать милых и заботливых, и просят, чтобы айдол хорошо питался попробовали бы эти ,,критики,, сами подходить под свои стандарты, а не просто рот открывать и оскорблять всех подряд

[@fleija482]

Stop pissing off artists, for God's sake.

[@bobafrost7366]

Wonyeong is the one who is most unhealthy & I’m concerned about. You can just see Yujin’s Height/bone size to body weight and see what Wonyeong should weigh as they’re the same bone size & height. Yuna’s body on the other hand, Doesn’t concern me necessarily because my ribs when I was at the bottom of my BMI did what hers did & I was still eating healthy, not starving myself (chicken & lots of fruit/dairy) even though my ribs did what her did when she moved. I ate just the main meals, barely snacked. If I snacked it was usually fruit/cheese/yogurt, every so often carb snack- things like that. You can be at the low end of your BMI and still be healthy. She may not be within hers, I’m not saying she is, but she can still look like that & be within her healthy weight range as well. I know bc of myself. I inline skated several hours every day at that point, which burned a lot of fat on top of how I was eating so I was very lean & at low end of my BMI. Her calorie burner is strenuous dancing & always being on the go, on top of if she eats like I did- those things together can actually make her as skinny as she is without starving herself & still be within healthy BMI range for her height. A third/4th factor to throw in is metabolism & body types. I’m hourglass, I gain weight as quickly & easily as I lose it, that’s why eating like I did kept it pretty balanced on top of how much I loved around/worked out. She seems to have a body type similar to Tzuyu but not exactly like Tzuyu’s either (just for close comparison).

[@nabila2893]

You compared Wonyung to so much Kpop idols here and their bodies. Yes, she may need to worry about her health, but what about her mental health. Netizens are the ones who caused this and no one is saying there made a mistake it's your guys faults she is like this none of this would have happened. She isn't you and will never be so I see no reason to tell your experience with eating and comparing it to hers? You may not see it but all your doing in this paragraph is comparing bodies (This wasn't hate and I'm sorry if I was being rude) But you guys can't talk about people's bodies like that your just a fan so please don't overstep I am too.

[@pereznunez2480]

Yuna DOES look healthy, she is even more muscular than Lia (there is a video of them trying show off their arms' muscles and her legs are quite strong), her waist isnt even that small in real life, the stylists make her wear wide pants, large hip pads and big blazers so she has that unrealistic tiny waist and hourglass figure (which is quite disgusting since many girls would see it and feel that they should be like her, when she herself has a wider waist and not many curves in real life and it is all a fake body that impressionable preteens wish they had), but Wonyoung's case is one the most horrible cases of 3ating d1sorders in kpop, that is the reason I dont stan IVE, Starship doenst deserve to be successful by allowing Wonyoung to die in front of kpop stans' eyes.

[@rubenprisco7896]

Seriusly hating these kpop idol wont make them rich

[@Amy-lp2nl]

4:31 you did her dirty 💀

[@guru..]

yes because body shaming is so funny

[@Amy-lp2nl]

@@guru.. i wasn’t meant to laughing sillyhead It was a critical comment

[@hysminai7397]

I hope big butts and big hips won't become an ideal in kpop, as the number of people with naturally small waists and big hips is low. And bbls are very dangerous.

[@bigfanbigfan8283]

Lol,, it's two sided... netizens are wrong for the expectations and idols are wrong for fulfilling the wrong expectations and not being true to themselves and promoting a bad thing..... it's not like there aren't famous or successful singer who are not so called good looking....Idols nowadays care too much about money to do any right thing....and netizens are shit .... 🤍

[@omo8150]

Yeah same but I think most likely in K-pop they may turn to getting skinny bbl’s in oppose to the the curvy and disproportionate ones were accustomed too in the West.

[@bigfanbigfan8283]

@@omo8150 lol,,,and idols care too much about money that they do it even if it's wrong 😴

[@gahyuns]

Winter looks the same

[@moaengene2172]

Literally people are dramatic. Leave mark alone

[@ChanduLahari]

This video is completely about netizens being spoiled brats and blaming idols for it while being oblivious to their own toxicity. I avoided watching it for a long time because I was afraid to know what kind of controversy Mark might have gotten himself into while I wasn't paying attention... and I am SO glad to see that it was complete BS. Sometimes I get worried--at least fat-shaming and skinny-shaming are recognized as toxic problems and called out by the more intelligent majority of netizens. But the kind of subtle and persistent trauma we put some idols through, the kind of mind games we play with them when we compliment them for something but only so long as they don't cross some arbitrary line we've made up in our own minds--that's the kind of toxicity that doesn't get recognized enough and therefore gets perpetuated. I wouldn't be surprised if all idols have some effed up trust issues because of us fans.

[@sp4rklino]

poor yuna

[@moaengene2172]

It’s always the fans. I hope wonyoung is comfortable with her health and body ❤

[@ahyeonnieee]

Winter don't control her Instagram posts. She has nothing to do with it and that was just one picture. Winter never losed weight, she looks the same, the outfit probably makes her chubby or skinny. #winterisbeautifulthewaysheis