4 Lesser Known But UNIQUE CHAOS Factions In Warhammer

When we think of Chaos we think of Beastmen, Warriors, Daemons And Norscan, with Norscans being the most commonly thought when thinking about Northmen but that is NOT the case. Let's talk about the OTHER Northmen who worship the dark powers and what makes them a threat to the world!
4 Lesser Known But UNQIUE CHAOS Factions In Warhammer
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[@TheGreatBookofGrudges]

Surprise surprise Morathi likes spending time with men who call themselves "Hung"

[@praisethesun.praisedeussol6051]

I also like the hung man

[@HH-hd7nd]

The Eastern Steppes are not really controlled by the Kurgans - at least not them alone. That's also the territory of the Hobgoblin Khanate. It is actually a shame that everything in the Realm of Chaos is describes as destructive and evil - which doesn't make sense. The description of the Realm is that it lives off of mortal's passions and emotions - and not only negative emotions. This means several things: a) There should be realms within the Realm of Chaos that are not Tartarus but Elysian Fields. b) There should be benevolent Chaos Gods, c) in accordance with b the Realm of Chaos should not only be home to demons alone but also angel-like beings and primordeal beings with no connection to good or evil at all That said - the description of gods in general in the Warhammer lore is that they draw their power from the Realm of Chaos. So why is it that none of the Realm is forged in the image and under the influence of let's say Khaine or Asuryan? This doesn't make sense.

[@mileniumaronxp]

So they are gypsies

[@slaaneshshewhothirst9136]

I also like spending them with them

[@praisethesun.praisedeussol6051]

@@HH-hd7nd there where god's of order / good with there demons in old lore . Also all the gods of the lesser races already kinda function like that .

[@theelementalstation947]

Fun fact, the Mongols did put meat under their saddles, but not as a way of cooking, but rather as a cheap makeshift technique to add cushion for their horses to protect them from friction sores and blisters during long travels. The myth of it being a cooking method came due to a time when an European historian was accompanying a group of Mongols and during the trip they ran out of food and they were forced to eat the stale meat under their saddles or starve.

[@hunter5822]

I think the myth is that they used the saddle to soften the tough meat, but your explanation makes a lot of sense.

[@martintodd9944]

I heard it was to soften tough meat

[@desert_druid_xD]

Multipurpose meat

[@Jesus_Wojak]

🤢

[@walterteply-schnabl6379]

Afaik (this was also told us by our tour guides in Mongolia) their actual travel rations consisted of bags of dried and powdered meat that would be used to make broth.

[@liofalba]

Love how GW throws out like a billion ideas in books and other mediums, develops like 30 of them in the modest customer friendly ways and people who could have bought a small house for the price of all their Minis are like “Actually, we need way more stuff”

[@chichi2000fgh]

GW? Customer friendly? you're kidding right?

[@liofalba]

@@chichi2000fgh lol meant “least” dunno what autocorrect did

[@michaelturner5050]

Cool story bro

[@funoff3207]

​@@michaelturner5050Thanks for your excellent input Michael Turner

[@blackadder564]

10:00 binding the heads of infants to get a more elongated skull was something steppes people did in the real world a well. And not just by them.

[@ronaldowens5025]

Aztec, Olmec, Egyptian, a few African tribes to name just a few.

[@czukarpathian6621]

That body modification(skulls in psrticular) of the Hung is actually pretty accurate to our historical real world turkic nomads, scythians, sarmatians and such

[@MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMD]

Yeah, it was apparently some pretty freaky shit IRL

[@brentonwilliamson1728]

Scythians and Sarmatians were not Turkic nor did they practice skull deformation; but otherwise yeah. Scytho-Sarmatians are actually a lot weirder and more interesting than you might expect. Basically a big wave of people moved out of Eastern Europe into the Steppe during the Bronze Age then some of them moved South and brought Indo-European languages into the lands they conquered in India and Iran. The Scythians and Sarmatians are the people whom remained in the Steppe and never settled down among the groups their cousins conquered. Religiously they shared a lot with Slavic pagans but also had similarities to Zoroastrians, such as fire worship and Hindus like holding seven as a sacred number. Linguistically Ossetians and Pashtuns are the closest modern Comparison or if you are unfamiliar with the term Pashtun, Afghanistan. Genetically the Western Scythians were very similar to Czechs Ukrainians Moldovans Swedes Hungarians and Finns, Sarmatians living in what is now the Urals Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan were somewhat similar to Russians Mordvins Karelians Finns as well as Mishari and Kazani Tatars, Saka in what is now Turkmenistan Kyrgyzstan and Xinjiang were in between Russians and Tajiks and there was also a small group of Sarmatians living on the border of Mongolia who were around 40% East Asian. The confusion people have associating them with Turks is because they inhabited a lot of the same areas and because the Byzantines threw around the word Scythian as a sort of slang to refer to any nomadic people for a long time.

[@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs]

​@@brentonwilliamson1728he didn't say they were Turkic..... he just listed a couple of groups of people. Which is obvious if you know how to read.

[@brentonwilliamson1728]

​@@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs His statement can easily be interpreted as listing Scythians and Sarmatians as sub-groups within "Turkic nomads". But I get it you need everyone to see how smart you are, next time you might want to capitalize the first letter of your sentence and avoid using an ellipsis with more than three dots.

[@akasunanosasori6385]

Low chances but i hope they will rename norsca to "tribes of the north" or "chaos tribes" and we get 1 or 2 of each tribe as a LL, Tong, kurgans, hung, so on and so forth!

[@christiandauz3742]

I think Kurgan, Hung and others will be separate Races with different mechanics and units. Some shared with Norsca

[@cephery8482]

@@christiandauz3742 perhaps, but since we’ve seen they can do that under 1 race name with WoC they could still male it tribes of the north and give them a champions of chaos style dlc instead of multiple full race packs

[@simonl.6338]

@@christiandauz3742 Considering GW could sell more overpriced minis and books this way that's the more likely approach

[@christiandauz3742]

@@simonl.6338 Probably like Chaos Divided The basic Marauder and Horseman units are shared

[@FinnmacD]

Fun fact about the Dolgan is that they are named after a real life group of native Siberians living in Russia.

[@andreykuzmin4355]

Another fun fact: Kurgan (курган) means "burial mound" in Russian. I guess there are many of those after Kurgan raids.

[@jarlwilliam9932]

Kurgans are also named after a real life Asian steppe people, the first ever written about actually and they formed a steppe empire well before the mongols where an idea.

[@jakemocci3953]

The real life Kurgans were what some people call Aryans.

[@macleress5851]

They are turks turkic

[@kuykasamjoktar6191]

​​​@@jakemocci3953 Kurgan(kurhan)is a Turkic word. It has no meaning in any Indo-European launguages.The word has two possible etymologies, either from the Old Turkic root qori- "to close, to block, to guard, to protect", or qur- "to build, to erect, furnish or stur". It means "high grave" in Old Turkic.

[@herbertvonbismarck8303]

These beast fiends sounds like they would be a excellent dlc addition for the beastmen. Heck we could have 4 more beastmen lords to lead these beastfiends

[@christiandauz3742]

Five. One for Undivided Tamurkhan should have an Undivided Female Sibling

[@herbertvonbismarck8303]

Nah we already got many for undivided, and we already got options for the 4 beastmen ghorros, moonclaw, slugtongue, and ungrol Four Horn.

[@Prushinthespirit]

I even came up with a small possible roster for them

[@bedrichpitra8214]

I really love dark and grim warhammer lore. The book Liber Chaotica is one the best lore book which I have ever read, so deep and disturbing reading about Chaos. I like chaos "culture" and I hope that we will get more interesting faction and mainly characters. Very nice video as usual.

[@basinox]

I would love for the Khurgans to be added as I think they could add a lot of varity to the northern map. Beastfiends would be fun heroes for the beastman considering their strength and rarity.

[@trailblazerlazerrazerd9027]

I'm between Chaos Undivided and Bela'kor followers. Mostly Bela'kor because I respect that “Vengeance against the Gods - Kratos from God of War” energy.

[@TheghostofTimmy]

I'm not sure if it's canon anymore, but I did read a novel that about the Tong which also served as an origin story of sorts for U'Zuhl the Skulltaker. A powerful Chieftain of the the Tong subjugates and then leads a vast horde of Chaos-aligned tribes (including Kurgan, Hung, and even Beastmen) to conquer a vast swathe of land in the name of Khorne, then decides to keep it for himself. This chief manages to temporarily kill Skulltaker at the cost of his own life, and the horde settles this land instead of it being absorbed into the Wastes. The rest of the story is the descendants of this horde being chased down and slaughtered by a reborn Skulltaker, and then the lands of the Tong being absorbed into the Wastes as Khorne always gets his due. If we extrapolate this story that the Tong in this lore book are some scattered remains of the Tong punished by Khorne to fight for him forever, I think it's pretty cool. Notably, they did use War Mammoths in the story.

[@martintodd9944]

I'm just getting into Warhammer, reading the malus darkblade series at moment and do like the baddies types. Can you recommend any ?

[@matthiasthulman4058]

I'm pretty sure I've read that story as well, and I loved it. I think it was C.L. Werner, but I could be wrong

[@Baalpehgor]

@@matthiasthulman4058 C.L. Werner wrote several Chaos Novels, iirc mostly about relatively unknown Tribes and characters

[@matthiasthulman4058]

@@Baalpehgor he has some good stuff, but I always felt he struggled to finish stories. Doesn't quite know how to tie them up

[@jasonsantos3037]

We do need more Chaos factions get us the kurgans already.

[@christiandauz3742]

Vadrek should be a Hybrid WoC-Kurgan subfaction

[@pogo8050]

Reading the hordes of chaos/warriors of chaos army books when I was younger, kurgan always came across to me as the bog standard chaos armies, like when I think of a chaos army. While norscans and hung felt more like flavor races, you could take a different direction. Not sure the kurgan need to differentiate themselves beyond some superficial things and maybe some changes to some of the models, more importantly names for the faction leaders ( the leader of the mung shouldn’t be named Anders Skoglund or whatever ). Many of the marauders already have black hair and can pass for them anyway.

[@jarlwilliam9932]

Depends really while Kurgan are the most numerous, the Norscans where the first humans in the old world to turn to chaos, and most of Khorne’s mortal champions are Norscans. Actually I think almost all named mortal champions of Khorne are Norscan including the most powerful which is Arbaal.

[@quotenpunk279]

These Imperial or Bretonian reports about the tribes are wonderfully immersive. They remind me a lot of travel reports from middle age or 16th century merchants, who where often a little bit ecallerated, influenced by cultural arrogance or too crazy too be true. And they might even be partly bullshit in the lore of the Warhammer - world itself here (for example the meat between the tighs thing) but thats part of the fun.

[@Morphologicallyy]

Just like kurgans, hung, etc. are based real life steppe folk, those reports are inspired by real life historian reports like from Giovanni Carpini ( you can watch some vids on yt, he actually had so much info on the mongols i believe but it was all wasted since the european lords were too ignorant to pay him any mind)

[@Kevlord22]

Kinda wish we had more dilemmas pop up in wh3, that would kinda kinda also serve as lore dump. 99% lore i know of the factions comes from reddit and youtube. It would be nice gameplay event to choose from options with lore tidbits sprinkled in.

[@bmn5964]

Love the more unknown lore stuff, keep it up

[@riccardo393e7]

CA could make a DLC dedicated to the 4 chaos tribes…

[@NordicJarl27]

I would love to learn about other norscan tribes that don't worship the chaos gods. Could be a nice little dlc factions or mods

[@nachoviteriletamendia3887]

5:20 that's not Asavar if not his liutenant Engra Deathsword. It's an error originated from the game Chaosbane whose developers were to lazy to check it before to release the game.

[@hircenedaelen]

To see the kurgan, hung, and tong represented accurately would require the map to be expanded massively. Like widen the mountains of mourn, and extended the North over the map, so there's space for steppe land in the old world for the kurgan, over Cathay and the new world for the hung, and the tong can live in the chaos wastes. Widening the mountains could also improve ogres role play wise, those in the west favouring chaos dwarves, and those in the east Cathays, currently you kinda have to choose one. Also as others have said, a beastfiend Lords would be very cool

[@Johnnekaiser]

The Majority of Us: "Huh...Neat, never knew these factions exsisted but still neat to know The Modding Community of TWWH: "WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN!!!"

[@DarthEnderX]

The more modern interpretations of the monoGors found in AoS and Blood Bowl feel much more like Beast Fiends to me than the classic monoGors did. As they really look like daemonic hybrids. BB Khornegors look like they're part Flesh Hound, or oldschool Bloodthirster. BB Pestogors look part Plaguebearer. AoS Slaangors look part Daemonette. And AoS Tzaangors look part Lord of Change.

[@kempo79]

Chaos dwarfs and Slaaneshi cults of Dark Elves should be mentioned as major chaos factions imho.

[@warsaucer8307]

I´d love to see some beastfiend models as the beastmen haven't gotten anything since AoS and their roster is getting rather old ...

[@theeternalchronicler3072]

Liber Chaotica 1st edition was published sometime in the early 2000s. Want to say between 2005-2008. The second edition of the book was published in 2018, which was a grand omnibus off all the books turned into one tome. Reportably there is no plans to make a 3rd edition of the book as games workshop apperanently thinks the book is offensive and that the book doesnt represents the "companies current values". If we ever do see a 3rd edition of the book, apparently, edits will be made to make it up to a modern standard.

[@goransekulic3671]

Company's current values? What does that even mean? And why does that matter anyhow? We are talking about satanic Huns etc, what does this have with the modern times? Or do they think history(a lot of this is just Fantasy + History) is also "offensive"? How about basic biology and psychology? "Offensive" too? Where do we draw the line?

[@firetarrasque4667]

Many of the "Chaos Tribes" are just... Disappointing. It's not even about the racism - although there's definitely some racism - But it feels like G.W. just didn't put enough effort into any parts of the world that aren't either vaguely Western Europe or Elflantis. The setting would simply be more interesting if non-Imperial humans were people with their own moral codes and cultures, instead of generally being painted over with the singular brush of "CHAOS WARRIOR."

[@theeternalchronicler3072]

@@firetarrasque4667 What racism?

[@goransekulic3671]

@@firetarrasque4667 On one hand, these are Huns, Mongols etc. With a lot of subtle and not so subtle details pointing there. On the other hand, they are often portrayed as just "bog standard Chaos". Norsca, for example, was much better when its relation with Chaos was more diverse. When it was hinted that they were pushed towards Chaos by certain actions of the Empire. And such. I'll agree that Kurgan et al deserve much better than simple Chaos.

[@nikolambert314]

I like how all those northeners portrayed as half naked. In the winter lands.

[@cardboardbox191]

In terms of the hung attacking the dark elves and leaving without finishing the job my bet is they didn't have the supplies to wait out the dark elves since they were hungry anyway (which was why they'd eat corpses ). There wasn't much good loot, food, or fighting in the siege (charging a wall and getting shots were not a good fight), it would be a hard fight and it was basically just not worth it for them, they could have but they wouldn't gain much of what they wanted.

[@anti-ponyassociation2444]

Glad that you're still making videos on Warhammer lore

[@hangebza6625]

This is were I like AoS. In WFB chaos cultures got the short end and were ignored by GW, despite their unique appeal. I am still waiting for Kurgan as chaos huns. But in AoS due to Warcry we get to see various larger and smaller chaos cultures with their own unique touches. From conan cosplayers to mutants and secret cults to fairly mundain looking folks which could work for Sigmar or else too by basic looks.

[@imperatorandros9947]

It would be nice if Games Workshop for the Tribes of Chaos abandoned the image of the generic and half-naked barbarian, perhaps differentiating the various tribes, taking inspiration from history: Norsca returns to having a Scandinavian aspect, as in the Third Edition, relying exclusively on infantry and monsters of all kinds, the Kurgan no longer as a single ethnic group divided into many tribes, but a "political area" based not on race, language or culture, but from an idea, a will: Destroy Kislev, then take all the Old World. It seemed strange to me that Gospodar and Kurgan were said to be ethnically related, given that the former are pale with light hair and eyes, and the latter have auburn skin and dark hair and eyes. Better make them a confederation : The Hastings as Proto-Slavs using foot skirmishers and light cavalry (descendants of the Scythians, like the Kislevites, and therefore pale with light eyes and light hair), The Kvelligs like the Scythians, slaves as poor cannon fodder, and light and medium cavalry, The Kul as nomadic Sasanian Persians, light infantry with large shields and ultra-heavy cavalry, The Yusaks as a mixture of Iroquois and Inuit, descendants of the native tribes of Naggaroth driven out by the Druuchi, the Avaghs (Avars), Khazaghs (Kazakhs), Thamakhs (Cumans), Tokhmars (Pechenegs), as an alliance, inspired by the medieval Turkic confederacy, with access to horse archers, heavy cavalry and War Mammoths. The Gharars I dunno, maybe auburn-skinned Howardian barbarians with a focus on big weapons, lots of The Rocks with medium scaled armor and big axes. The Hung obviously, a very scarce infantry unit, the rest all types of cavalry (otherwise what Chaos Mongols would they be?) The Tong inspired by the Jurchen / Manciú, with armies made up of mutants, cavalry and berserkers. What do you think about it? (although this is unlikely, GW is too lazy, and I don't think she will want to differentiate the Tribes).

[@goransekulic3671]

Do you honestly believe current GW is able to do this and do this properly?

[@imperatorandros9947]

@@goransekulic3671 absolutely not ☺️. Was nice think that

[@SilentSpringz]

Find it weard they wear almost no clothes in the winter cold. Like how does ur body not freeze? Beastman have atleast thick leather and fur.

[@imperatorandros9947]

@@SilentSpringz Many think that this is cool. But no. A man in Bermuda in a cold land is hilarious. Look the norse army in Third Edition of Warhammer. They are very cool. Simple, but cool. Exaggeration is not always good thing. Look Kislev, they have exaggerated with bears and ice, forgotting the Muscovite and Cossack flavour of the Old Times.

[@goransekulic3671]

@@SilentSpringz Because badass. But for real, it is a bloody good question.

[@umayyadball4126]

Thanks for the video! I hope CA gets rid of the Norscan clones and diversifies some of these factions a bit with Kurgan, Hung, and Tong culture. I played the Tong faction in the RoC campaign but it just didn’t feel the same as they were a minor WoC faction. And if CA never gives us beast fiend factions in the south, I have no doubt modern will.

[@roadscholarwarrior]

I love the Pleasure Cult hanging out with Hung Men 😂😂😂. Perfect set up. Thanks for the great Lore videos! Much appreciated!

[@CharChar2121]

Kurgans sound so cool. I've been in love with this archetype since TWM2.

[@Cifer77]

"The Kurgan" shall forever be, the bad guy from Highlander

[@ricardomora9913]

This is a juicy one, thanks man.

[@rakhyvel]

I wish you would put these on spotify so that I could listen to them over night, love the lore content!

[@torquevonthorne948]

Yeah TWW devs should have named Norscan race in the diplomacy panel "Northmen" would be interesting a content about the relation between the Vortex and Tzeentch

[@IDontKnowYouWhoAreYou]

i love watching chaos marauders and warriors stuff from this channel :) tanks

[@Broadside388]

I wish there were a chaos faction that was almost Empire. A bit like an empire faction beginning to turn to chaos.

[@alpacaofthemountain8760]

I like the idea that the Hung left because they wanted to let the dark elves start to recover before raiding them again, taking any riches the dark elves found

[@Dragoot]

Historically nomads have had exceptional diplomats. Because they constantly wandered into the lands of other peoples and the ability to negotiate is paramount for the survival of such a society. Strong diplomacy was the most important pillar of the Mongols' power.

[@eckotech787]

thx for the Content Nathen, your the best entertainment

[@timdehaardt8128]

i really love your content keep going man

[@m.meiburger1970]

Kurgan´s are the Mongols of the 40k Fantasy universe .

[@matthewmannor9124]

I like the episodes like this the most, however the mod spotlights are wonderful as well

[@andrewstripay5987]

i like how the murder-hobo description of the Kurgan also is the question one asks about how to deal with every party of adventurers in a fantasy setting.

[@Metal4Lifel666l]

Think you missed a famous Kurgan since the character called skulltaker was a kurgan I believe. It was in the book skulltaker

[@ShadowWolfRising]

Can we get a video on Non-Chaos Northmen?

[@goransekulic3671]

They don't exist anymore iirc. The last I heard about that is the 5th Edition and that's ... that's another Warhammer, better Warhammer if I may add, altogether. But you never know. Perhaps South-Southeast tribes? Or Norscans living in Nordland or Middenland and such?

[@ShadowWolfRising]

@@goransekulic3671 There is still a few, a Norscan leads an Ulrican Order.

[@goransekulic3671]

@@ShadowWolfRising Huh, really? What's his name?

[@ShadowWolfRising]

@@goransekulic3671 Ulricsson Haargald Leader of the Order of the Winter Throne.

[@goransekulic3671]

@@ShadowWolfRising That's amazing. To remember a single line like that. Thank you!

[@bazejmacias3884]

Dark Souls is also great material for discussion in the film. They are a great fit just for the Kurgan and Hung themes. They could also appear as characters or small squads in the game itself.

[@overlordoftoxicity7710]

Im found funny the fact, what I waiting "norsca" rework not playing for them, but see what they gona do as my vassals.

[@M0DIDDLY]

I don't oppose to groups like Kurgans or Hung coming to warhammer 3, but I will say, if the first (and probably only) dlc Norsca gets, adds a bunch of characters and units that aren't actually Norscans, I would be pretty damn disappointed.

[@steelcladCompliant]

They should probably rename the race to "Northmen" so it can include non-Norscan factions

[@jacopoarmini7889]

the main rule of Warhammer 40k: there is always someone more barbaric, more roided up with chaos, and definitely angrier than you somewhere in the world, and they are definitely after you

[@Dinner_Daddy]

17:55 got me rolling on the floor

[@leogunnemarsson4178]

Whichever tribe would best help me reach ascension is what I´d join. But if all that is equal...a beastman warband.

[@balintmagyar3285]

Seems to me, Kurgans are portraid after the Huns with warhammer chaos taint :P Sounds fun to me.

[@blutundra7313]

Tbh I was kislevite dolgans or roppsmen as a unique unit or a ROR

[@grimnir8872]

Fun fact: the destcription of the Kurgan is almost word for word a Roman description of the Huns.

[@greylotus1]

UNQIUE Chaos, eh?

[@michorizo84]

Let's get them all. Maybe amalgamate the Norscans into a 'lost and the dammed' race pack.

[@dmeep]

at 39min what is the thing bottom left?

[@thegreatrainman2336]

We don't need anymore Chao's factions for the time being. A Norscan faction that isn't aligned with Chaos would be better.

[@christiandauz3742]

They won't exist. Without Chaos blessing they are quickly exterminated

[@IDontKnowYouWhoAreYou]

the most popular slaanesh warband from the hung is the hung lo XD

[@memesofwarhemmer7076]

Norca: it’s time to recruit some more monkeys 🙉 in our meme hord

[@Indubidably0]

I'd like if Norsca were redesigned to Northern Tribes. Norsca, Kurgen, Mung, and Tong. Give each one 2 LL's. Kurgen would be what I'd want added most.

[@kapitankapital6580]

Is there any lore on Warhammer Korea? If so could you do a video on it?

[@goransekulic3671]

Don't think it exists, but you never know. Given TWH et al, maybe there will be one. Kinda like how Lokhir is now a nice stand-in for SEA pirates of yore.

[@Rukdug]

Damn. The author for the Liber Chaotica really just ripped off the description of the historical Huns from the Res Gestae and divided it between the Kurgan and the Hung. I get that it's GW and that the Kurgan and Hung are based on the Huns, but to use full sentences word for word in some places? That's a level of lazy I did not expect. Like, the author could have at least rearranged the sentence structure and used some synonyms when doing that.

[@christiandauz3742]

I thought Kurgan are Turks while Hung are Mongols? Granted the differences can get blurry

[@imperatorandros9947]

@@christiandauz3742 In theory, Kurgan are a mix of Scythian and Turks, the Hung are mongols.

[@brandor763]

Daemonic minotaurs... sign me up

[@doominator4072]

How original of GW they copied the Hun of early history and just added a extra letter, because even the description is how a Roman scholar would describe them minus the chaos taint.

[@Josh-qu1gs]

But with the kurgan, would that please khorne ? But that would cool for these factions to get fleshed out for WH3.

[@LordBoofhead1]

What about the Chaos Eskimos between the Norse and the Hung?

[@InternetMameluq]

21:00: You haven't metioned this yet, but the reason why these tribes appear untrustworthy is because they're precivilised people, which means that unliked the civilised nations they don't adhere to a code of laws. Tribal law is more of a religion than legal affair, and eventually that's replaced by customary, and later standardised law. To put it simply: they don't understand what laws are, let alone care about them. To them what matters is what benefits the tribe; if breaking their word benefits the tribe, no matter how dishonourable, then they will break their word.

[@christiandauz3742]

The only word they follow is that of the True Gods, the 4 Major Chaos Gods 6 in AoS as some of them are still alive and do worship the Horned Rat and Archaon as part of the Undivided Pantheon!

[@maxwellmerkel2537]

If we get tamurkhan and the kurgan we might see his brothers and there unique mounts or beasts if we are lucky

[@christiandauz3742]

Probably

[@maxwellmerkel2537]

@@christiandauz3742 you think it's likely? I guess the probably do have them all made up

[@christiandauz3742]

@@maxwellmerkel2537 Hermann Ghorst, Alberic, Cylostra and Yuri/Daemon Prince shows that they can do it Tamurkhan should have three brothers and one sister. One brother for each other main Chaos God whike the sister is Undivided Tong should have five Legendary Lords as well. They could borrow some from the Daemons or Warriors of Chaos

[@maxwellmerkel2537]

@@christiandauz3742 they could have the great kurgan as undivided

[@christiandauz3742]

@@maxwellmerkel2537 Chaos Gods could bring him back to life

[@needfoolthings]

I loooove Hung warriors.

[@goransekulic3671]

A lot of this is real life inspired(example: Kurgan people actually existed irl: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurgan). From the way back when Warhammer was good(5th-6th) and the writers knew what they were doing. Great stuff. Thank you.

[@iain-duncan]

All of this lore is just the stuff armenius said about the huns hahaha. Even the direct quotes, particularly about the carving of faces and cooking meat in a saddle

[@IDontKnowYouWhoAreYou]

i want dechala the denied one D: so bad please ca

[@kyle360123]

Hung men lmfao

[@WompaStompaCyn]

I like how the few times women are mentioned in Warhammer fantasy there's a 75% chance it's going to be aggressively misogynistic.

[@anthonydouglas8060]

To be fair, I don't think they were "kind" to anyone other than European and fantasy races. Look up the their take on Africans.

[@KosPepeHands]

DO THE KURGAN AN THONG COME SOUTH?!?

[@jackstrayfeald1007]

Who are the Ulthuan Renegades? Anyone?

[@TheGreatBookofGrudges]

The High Elves themselves, the Dark Elves believe they are right and the High Elves are pretenders

[@jackstrayfeald1007]

@@TheGreatBookofGrudges Ah, I see, thank you.

[@paxluporum4447]

Comment for the comment gods.

[@fraud291]

Bretonnia is actually a chaos faction

[@RawCauliflower]

Apart from some ancestry changes, they are pretty much the same roster as Norsca.

[@lijileung]

Warhammer 3 needs all of those subcultures.

[@ekhem7947]

I would love to be a beastfiend 😍

[@SuperRay0926]

Unique*

[@JustFun-wl3jf]

They are all not that interesting, more like an expansion for existing races/factions. Please make a video about the lesser known races, like centaurs or halforks

[@ghostking8730]

Theirs no such things as Half-orcs in warhammer because orks are mushrooms basicaly they drop "spores" which grow into goblins, squigs,orks, etc. And dont reproduce.

[@JustFun-wl3jf]

@GhostKing 87 I know, thats why i want to know more about them, because they were literally mentioned in a warhammer the old world post together with hobgoblins and centaurs (not the beastmen ones)

[@JustFun-wl3jf]

@GhostKing 87 Search for the warhammer the old world post from gamesworkshop about spuare bases and kislev ascendant

[@Kavino]

I think the Kurgan and Hung will be DLC for Norsca and Norsca will just be renamed Tribes of Chaos.

[@Manlikepegasus]

I would say more people think of CW, deamons, beastmen, and skaven. Norsca for many people I talk to just falls under chaos warriors. Most casual people also just know norsca from tw and see it as a reskin faction created by ca to add more factions to the game. So yeah I would say skaven are actually far more well known and spoken of. You could have talked about norsca in this video as well tbh

[@christiandauz3742]

Norsca has a Forgeworld army list. Same with Vampire Coast

[@Manlikepegasus]

@@christiandauz3742 casual people my dude. That’s why I said casual people. We know that, but most people don’t. Hence why I think gbg could have still talked about norsca

[@Shakenmike117]

Africa lore

[@Yarrharh]

Wait, Chaos Penguins are still not cannon?!

[@striderfox71]

Yeah... I could see why there was the drama with GW and this publication. The issue being representing a group of people that are Mongolian like in the world of warhammer fantasy. (Representing these people in thee worst light possible and racial slur insults.) Note: I know these are made up peoples, I got no issue with this book and love the in world perspective shown by the in-world author of the book. Its just my thinking on why GW denounces it, not me.

[@christiandauz3742]

Similar issue with Tolkien

[@richardmackenzie1878]

LOL gotta love how racist the old Warhammer lore was. "There the Hung were, regarding us through their tiny eyes"

[@pogo8050]

@@skeith1543 maybe referring to Asian people as having tiny eyes is a bit of a faux pas idk

[@pogo8050]

@@skeith1543 pretty telling the only argument you can make is “how can they be Asian? Asia isn’t real in Warhammer lololol check mate”. I can rephrase that argument; to base a group of people on real world equivalences that are East Asians, with distinctive facial features that are often the source of ridicule by bigots and then describing them by saying they have ‘tiny eyes’ is tactless and insensitive at best. Very racist at worst. I mean you can try this yourself, go to your local sushi place and ask if the chef would like it if you described his eyes as “tiny”.

[@pogo8050]

@@skeith1543 oh you could easily make an argument for how the only representation of nomadic cultures being mutated monster people is kind of super dehumanizing. However, I don’t see anything wrong with that inherently. If you want to take real world inspiration for your evil factions I don’t automatically care. Especially if you also have cultures like Cathay and Nippon. It helps me realize “well it’s not an Asian thing as a whole then”. Describing East Asian people as having tiny eyes however, I will always think is in really bad taste. While I’m sure a lot of eugenicists and racists widely have described East Asians as demon worshipping mutants, I don’t think it has the same cultural significance as insensitive references to Asian people having differently shaped eyes.

[@pogo8050]

@@skeith1543 epicanthal folds as the “asian eye” is called can be described in a great many ways; triangular, olive shaped, deep set, narrow etc. I think the fact you’re like “gun to your head how do you describe an Asian person’s eyes?” And your mind immediately jumps to “tiny” is pretty indicative of just not having very good imagination. I can understand not really being all up to date on the politicking surrounding this issue. I mean you basically have to be asian to get shit on by people for how your eyes are shaped, so I can understand not really being down with how that can feel and the kind of language surrounding it. But I think this snarling unwillingness to accept that’s a fact, is pretty indicative of a generally pissy attitude. All I can ask is if you have east asians people in your life you care about, that you try to think a little bit deeper about this stuff and try to understand how hurtful this stuff can be for them.

[@colt4531]

What a waste of mongol inspiration, just making them chaos is so stupid, If you know anything about mongol religion, the blue heaven, you would see how much is underutilized for a fantasy inspiration, instead most fantasy creators just make them stupid barbarians

[@AB-ln2py]

Would be a shame if someone... i dunno spread a disease to kill their horses :P

[@mathieuguenier3658]

click on the video hoping to see a mod. lore video aight i'm off.

[@TheGreatBookofGrudges]

Obviously didn't read the title then?

[@jeambeam3173]

Don't know if it will be listed but I love the chaos/vampire coast hybrid faction listed on Wikipedia

[@gabm.3270]

Maybe they should rename Norsca to the Northern Barbarians and create factions based on these 😂

[@overlordoftoxicity7710]

Im found funny the fact, what I waiting "norsca" rework not playing for them, but see what they gona do as my vassals.