4 NEW Chainsaws from STIHL.. But Why? We Test them to Find Out!

[@MachineryNation]

**Disclaimer** the chain cover came off as we did not do the nut up tight enough, it was our fault. There is nothing wrong with the saw. We just somehow forgot to tighten up the nut. We could have deleted this part, but we like to show our mistakes. It just proves, make sure you have tight nuts 👍🏼

[@taniapickering_ORA]

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[@damodoesall6240]

Hand a girl a spanner, and she''l tighten your nuts.

[@derrasenmaher9730]

I got the MS 162 over a year now, very well build saw. We use it for Tree care and small firewood jobs. Its so light weight and pretty powerful for the small size. This Fall I would get an MS 212 to replace my old but trusted 211.

[@Robert___xyz]

I liked the representation you made of chainsaws, from my experience this type of chainsaws are very durable, with MS 181 from 2011 I had after many years a problem with the pin that holds the blade, the thread inside the housing was damaged and the pin it came out with the blade and cover, but I cut very large logs for an MS 181, 27 inch (70 cm) diameter logs

[@garrettnelson1642]

Great video James and Josh. Just got these saws at my dealer and I cant wait to try them out! Looking forward to other improvements that STIHL will make.

[@MachineryNation]

Thank you Garrett 🤩

[@adelarsen9776]

The small Chinese Stihl saws are actually good value and work well.

[@codygrass4586]

They are all made in Germany or the united states.

[@codygrass4586]

But all the chainsaws are made in Germany. Common knowledge with a little bit of research

[@adelarsen9776]

@@codygrass4586 Stihl chainsaw manufactured country serial codes are : 1 is Germany 8 is China 2 and 5 is USA 3 is Brazil 4 is Austria Stihl chainsaws are made all over the world. From the MS 250 and above they are made in Germany. What does the serial numbers of your saw(s) start with ?

[@PaulStamp-w8d]

212 looked useful, thx for video

[@MachineryNation]

Yeah nippy little saw for sure 👍🏼

[@bikemancody2752]

Had the MS180C for 6 years. It has been fantastic. I use it for our dirt bike single track maint and new trail cutting. I do believe it's going to be the new 212 for me. Excited to try one. Thanks for this video guys.

[@madamain8099]

Go the 180!!! Best value saw ever

[@DJC995]

Hi James & Josh nice one do like a little Stihl saw👍👍 Wood mizer demo for the trunk 🤞🤞😀😀 thanks again

[@MachineryNation]

Yes, that is what we need Darran!

[@johnp2209]

The MS170 has 2 nuts and easier access to air filter. I just bought 2 MS170 and no need for this new line up. PS I cut 16.5 cord on 1 chain this past year.

[@almclean4835]

You can’t beat a 2 stroke! Have they made the saws quieter? Never seen a side cover fall off before, who was in charge of the assembling ? Was it Norman ?

[@MachineryNation]

Haha, yeah I think so Al, blooming Norman!

[@larsvegas1505]

If it werent for the price id just get the 212.. because if theyare so similar the weight will also reflect this.. thus making all the cheaper ones obsolete.

[@fassvcummins]

Look often familiar to a Husqvarna chainsaw think I’ll stick with the big boys saw. Can beat a 372xp or 461 ported.

[@benm1050]

I heard at my local dealer today that stihl are going to stop production of their 231 and 251 so that these are the only domestic saws they produce!

[@MachineryNation]

I very much doubt they will do this, otherwise that means a jump in cc from 38 to 50 with the MS271. There is a lot of ground missing in the middle. I expect they will update these with either two new saws in line with the other new ones. Or replace them with one 45cc which would still leave a gap.

[@benm1050]

@@MachineryNation that’s what I thought, there would still be the 42.6cc 241 however, I believe that is considered a “pro” saw?

[@MachineryNation]

@@benm1050 yeah that is a pro saw and may well be discontinued.

[@dcvariousvids8082]

Not bad seeming small saw. But I’m not a fan of easy tensioning chain mechanisms. But easy start, I could do with that.

[@lewis5605]

Have a 211 with easy chain tension wasn't a fan at first but its growing on me seems well designed

[@stoneridgewoodland9388]

I’m really glad they’re made in China, will be top quality. 👏

[@WolfinWolvesClothing713]

So buy a pro series.

[@codygrass4586]

False. It's actually made in America with some parts coming from Germany. None of their materials of parts come from China

[@georgecatalin1203]

hello, how is the engine run-in done in wood or should we let the engine run at idle speed and how much mixed oil to put in the gasoline

[@patrickvennard838]

I have heard there will also be upgrades to the 261 and the 362 which I would be keen to see.

[@MachineryNation]

Interesting, look forward to it 👍🏼

[@ohiampuja9246]

Dont change anything in 261 please. Best saw ever...

[@samjforster3512]

Hi there MN keep up the great work love the vids

[@MachineryNation]

Thank you Sam 👍🏼

[@LewisgardenservicesLtd]

You're not the only one not to tighten up before cutting 😬😅

[@MachineryNation]

Couldn’t believe it 😂😂

[@LewisgardenservicesLtd]

@@MachineryNation it looked great🤣 👍

[@russellpetrie119]

they seem to be going through the simplyfiying procesess with alot of stuff atm vans cars machinery could make it easier obtaining parts etc eliminate unused parts and space to store such items

[@MachineryNation]

It certainly makes sense for manufacturers, dealers and consumers.

[@jenniviles9923]

I've brought Ms 212 heap of rubbish has done bugger all work and has been back to the dealer twice ..and is still there clutch bearing replaced round 1 second round after just one load of firewood back to the dealer with a stuffed clutch and spindle.....fixed and still not working properly ......DONT TOUCH the new models

[@alexanderlitvinenko5891]

Well, to be honest this isn't a surprise to me. In May 2023 I bought a MS 231, which is made in Germany after realizing that Stihl's gardener saws are now made in China. Hopefully you and the shop owner found a reliable solution in regard to the issues.

[@larsvegas1505]

what u really shouldve bought is the 261 c-m.. Cost bit more (like double+).. but for that u get the tool u wanted instead of the tool u wished the 212 would be.. still not ranting on cheap stihl stuff though.. i love my corded hedgetrimmers and chainsaws from them. I run a old 036 saw for bucking up logs and a 201c-m for smaller stuff.

[@adrianstefan23]

👍👍👌👌

[@bennorwood5181]

Not a fan of the single bolt holding the bar on. It puts to much stress on the chain tensioner, and this resulted in a broken tensioner on my MS 251.

[@em4703]

Not really, if its torqued down properly. Its the same as the wheel of a car: Its not being held on by the bolts, those just create the pressure. Its held by the friction created by the clamping force.

[@bennorwood5181]

No. It pivots on the single bolt and breaks the tensioner stud. That's how it is.

[@em4703]

@@bennorwood5181 Interesting, you sure its not overtightening the chain that creates that issue? My father has an MS 231 with 1 stud and its all fine almost a decade later, and that saw had over 1000 hours of use so far and 4 bars ran until they were scrap.

[@bennorwood5181]

Hey. It might just be a part of my imagination. Glad his works good. Take care sir.

[@clayramsey019]

2stroke engines have twice the power as a four stroke engine. Hence 125 two stroke races a 250 four stroke in Mx

[@andrewdavies9523]

Hmm,the 182 (for instance)may well be 4cc more than the 181,but its only .1h.p. more plus its heavier too!So in real World conditions these are pointless 'upgrades'.

[@GUJEL]

STHIL still overprice 😂

[@Vipex_134]

Is it worth it going from ms 180 to ms 182?

[@lewis5605]

Go 211 or 212 way better in my opinion

[@Vipex_134]

Went bonkers style, got a ms 391

[@lewis5605]

@@Vipex_134 now that's an upgrade I'm wanting to get a 400 or 462

[@Vipex_134]

@@lewis5605 462 is just better. Depends on what you plan on using it tho

[@lewis5605]

@@Vipex_134 mainly firewood bit of slabbing

[@seamusdelahunty1615]

We in the local still dealer last weak.e500 for the smallest 1.?

[@Big_Johns]

Well I'm glad you two were sword fighting with chainsaws for a change. 😲😜

[@MachineryNation]

Makes a change, other tools were still sore from just before, so we used the saws 👍🏼

[@Big_Johns]

🤣🤣🤣

[@patricktreacy9364]

They look very similar to the husqvarna 135 mk II

[@MachineryNation]

Definitely a more rounded shape.

[@davt8615]

The 135 mk2 is better saw by a good margin

[@patricktreacy9364]

@@davt8615 I got a 135 MK2 and it's caused me nothing but problems

[@davt8615]

@@patricktreacy9364 must of got a dud. I work forestry and have ran 1 pretty hard for limbing over last 3 year and it hasn't skipped a beat hasn't even had a service

[@patricktreacy9364]

@@davt8615 I'm running a 50cc proplus now and it's a great saw

[@Living-The-Dream]

Where can the safety pants be purchased?

[@MachineryNation]

The link is in the description 👍🏼

[@stamp28]

Why do some of the saws have screw caps and some have the flip up caps?

[@jameshancock18]

Cheaper saws have screw caps

[@markus4965]

Money my friend

[@stamp28]

Well why did the ms660 only have screw caps then?

[@Harry-888]

​@@stamp28personally I think the screw caps are better then flip up ones when they get dirty or got gloves on the flip caps are not quicker like they say

[@jameshancock18]

@@stamp28 because it’s an old saw, all the old saws had screw caps

[@tinkeringtaylor3053]

James you need to check your nuts in the future, nice saws but i would like to see the saw or saw`s that going to cut the trunk

[@MachineryNation]

I know right 🤦🏻‍♂️🔩 yeah we will get some big saws out soon 👍🏼

[@williambray4134]

Stihl-Heads

[@Gordon-t8k]

That happened to the 182 I have I don’t really like the one nut

[@skitidet4302]

They all sound terrible, but I guess it's because they are all brand new so they are all being ran too rich by the computer? I'm more interested in how they will run after 3 tanks of gas or however long it takes for the computer to start leaning them out.

[@MachineryNation]

No computers on these controlling the carbs.

[@CutterCH]

The still sound and run the same way even when they're broke in. Stihl dropped the ball again with these saws.

[@poland_stronk3044]

8:24 LOL

[@s.kxx1956]

That intro isn’t a very good advert ! (I know its not done up)

[@MachineryNation]

It’s mentioned in the video, about how silly I am and that it is our fault. In my opinion it’s better than a boring arse product video that nobody watches.

[@julianalderson3938]

Pushin that hard on a saw no good.

[@design2survive]

These all sounded like they were 4 stroking..need a muffler mod or something.

[@paulsouthgate8954]

Has the ms231 been discontinued?

[@julianalderson3938]

Surprised stihl still do it.

[@julianalderson3938]

Easy chain tension never good. Home owners better have nuts n bar wrench. Easy chain tensioner its not n fails. Just what ive found. Thanx

[@MachineryNation]

After selling the easy chain tensioner on the comfort series saws for over 10 year I think I have only seen a hand full fail and that was usually down to wear and tear or the customer not maintaining it properly.

[@Capitalism99]

Too many numbers!!! 😂

[@MachineryNation]

Try reciting them 😂

[@SwiftiePolice]

I’ll take my GTA26 over any of these.

[@CutterCH]

They all claim to have more power than the models they're replacing. They don't perform like they do. These are a huge step back in performance and a step forward in design/appearance. Stihl dropped the ball with these saws, again. Not even suitable for a novice homeowner. Overpriced, underpowered, and very disappointing in performance. I've ran them all. Not impressed at all. The old models they replaced are much better. That's not really saying much because those older models weren't up to par either.

[@solidgroundprogram]

What would you recommend at the same price range?

[@rainbowlizard4736]

​@@solidgroundprogramMS 211 Ms 170 Ms171 or ms180 are all great saws or ms 250 for heavier use

[@rainbowlizard4736]

​@@solidgroundprogram a husqy 120 is also a good option

[@OldestYoungenInGuidePost]

I’ve got a mid 90’s MS 180 with the carb upgrade that gives you the tuning of the H & L ( I forgot what it’s called) it’s sat at the bottom of the garden wood store and in a dry spot, it’s cut a lot of wood 🪵 and it’s had a lot of hard work, I could go get it tomorrow and put a new bar & chain on top up with fuel and oil and 2 primer pull’s and on the 3rd or 4th it’ll start up and put all those saws to shame 🧐💪🏼 I’m not impressed either 🤔 They seem flat and no torque whatsoever 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@robinverbridge4900]

These under 45cc gas powered chainsaws are all obsolete! (THERE I said it!!!!) Battery powered chainsaws are here! I for one (1) enjoy running six (6) different gas saws, or my battery saw, for wood under 12 inches in diameter. I have a larger saw for larger wood! Soon though, that larger gas saw will be obsolete too!

[@newt66c33]

ive had that happen several times that why i like 2 nuts

[@mordeth1964]

Why wear a helmet when cutting logs or branches on or near ground level?

[@MachineryNation]

Legal requirement, would t want the safety sallys out in force 😉

[@poland_stronk3044]

You can fall or bird can poop on you.

[@BigKidCasey]

Junk.

[@CutterCH]

Yep. Pure junk.

[@edwardthomas9671]

They 💩

[@M-S0704]

never buy stihl save your money

[@clayramsey019]

Those saws are legit trash, looks like they want us on 🪫

[@clayramsey019]

My ms11 would crush those