I FINALLY Bought A Stihl 500i! My Overall Thoughts...

[@loganmerriam5985]

I just want you to know that your videos have trained a whole crew of tree guys down here in mobile AL. I showed you to my crew and they were hooked to your videos and have done nothing but become better at their craft because of it. Thank you Jake! and i will continue to watch your journey! Much love from the south!

[@njaydulak1]

Guilty of treeson, educated climber, and August hunicke are the best content creators for tree work in my opinion. Buckin' Billy ray is just a total badass

[@Odhinn638]

Hey man, thats what i do with my guys!!!

[@michaluher103]

Hi double stacker! As Husqvarna technician I can say that: 592-its probably faulty oil hose-easy fix 540-more complicated, have to be connected to CST diagnostic tool to know whats going on, but from my experience its usual suspect, triger, where is magnet glued on, broken or just fell off the trigger When visiting Czech republic, take a visit and consider it repaired 😀 PS: please another video with Randy in sandals

[@Roy-l7v]

Hi, OK you sold me a Stihl, don't know why i need one, cause i live on a boat , but after listening too you for a short time, i want one..

[@taylorc2542]

The thing that annoys me about Stihl is the price of their parts. Wrap handle for a big Stihl? $200. Same thing for a Husky? $60. Huskie also does their fall/spring sale which makes them 25% cheaper. Gotta pay for all that marketing.

[@nate-408]

​@taylorc2542 so get a husky then when it has all the usual issues running you won't have to be convinced to buy a stihl.

[@donnyhudgins1917]

Wish you lived closer, I'd be happy to fix the 592 for you. Gotta be either the oil pump, orings, or hose, they're pretty simple designs. Gordy could probably figure it out.

[@PurpleNovember]

I think you’re right about Gordy figuring it out, wouldn’t hurt to have him drive into it and do a video on it.

[@GuiltyofTreeson]

Thanks! I got it fixed since this video, it was a broken oil hose 👍🏼

[@kasken719]

I've got the same problem with my husky. I just use it as a door stop since I've got the 500i. I do want to get it fixed.

[@RI-td3gv]

@@kasken719 haha, same with me, doorstop is right, I hardly use my 572 now that I'v got a 500i

[@royaltydiesel6734]

@@RI-td3gvnow y’all got me wanting to go to my dark side and pickup a 500i and get it ported and such like my 572. I like my 572 but it seems to have a oiling issue as well, runs well after a good port job and upped the compression a ton. Pulls a 32inch bar through red oak like a beast

[@billbezzant3033]

Glad to see that working with Randy is having a positive effect on your working wardrobe. It’s a new era for loggers…

[@williammaxwell1919]

LOL ~ I'm waiting for the real shocker where everyone comments "dude, that's going too far"

[@PeterEndelt]

😅😅😅

[@michaelwhiteoldtimer7648]

Maybe when you google logging clothes these Hawaiian shirts will show up 😅😅😅

[@DavidMcCutcheon-i3c]

Has he been auditioning for fear and loathing in los Vegas?

[@YeahGroovyBaby]

😂😂😂

[@magdabrownis265]

I like that you keep things pg. My 3 year old likes watching with me

[@kamilegier4730]

I bought the MS 500i when it fist came out and have loved that saw. As a woodworker with a bandsaw sawmill it was sad to see those logs cut into firewood, even trees that seem rotten or useless have potential. Many wonderful things can be made from wood that most consider trash

[@18winsagin]

I work at a company that is a dealer for Stihl. If you have time and keep your eye on the inventory in a store, sometimes they have a unit that has been on the shelf for a year or more like I had a 462 and we have very little walk in business because our main line is heavy equipment , parts and service. Stihl increases prices often and the 462 was in my inventory for almost a year and a half and a guy really liked it so in order to move it I gave him a 2 year old price vs the current price which is quite a bit of savings, you just have to ask if they can do better on price. My cost was low enough so the company still makes a profit and the customer saves about 200 bucks depending on the model. Just thought I'd throw it out there. Great video and good safe saw work 👍

[@budlvr]

DAMN DUDE YOU'RE SNEAKING UP ON A FRIGGIN M I L L I O N SUBSCRIBERS IN A LITTLE OVER 2 YEARS !!!!!!! DAMN AGAIN !!!!! So glad and proud of what you have accomplished Buddy!

[@br-dj2ti]

I feel the same way, Jake. The 500 is the best all around big saw you can have.

[@itsfeltzzz1841]

I agree and I’m a husky guy, woukd love to grab a ported one

[@br-dj2ti]

@itsfeltzzz1841 Yeah, I have one stock with a bark box. I have 4 other ones that are ported and Timing advance with the bark box, they are amazing, love them.

[@PurpleNovember]

@@br-dj2ti How are the ported ones on fuel consumption and power compared to the no ported?

[@br-dj2ti]

@@PurpleNovember I actually think they get better fuel when they are ported my opinion

[@br-dj2ti]

@@PurpleNovember In the power is absolutely amazing when they are ported opinion

[@PatrickBlais-jx8we]

Well, nobody can tell you how to climb. That’s a fact Jack, but Yoda would tell you….comparison to Stihl vs Husqvarna, much to learn you still have. Stihl 500IR real deal! Got to love the West Coast bark box, brought you in part by Gordy .We run that puppy all the time we got people walking over from eight blocks over, I got a tree for you to take care of lol. Can you take a look at my tree?

[@49100CHP]

I like my 500i so much I have two. One running short 40cm bar and the other the 76cm. I also have a 93cm bar for when I need it. Thought about the 661 but I literally cross cut / buck all day as a professional woodcutter. Working 6hrs in the sun / rain etc the 500i is lighter and reliable. Starts every third pull.

[@MysticalDragon73]

I wish I'd known about the 500I before the 661. I work with a non profit clearing downed trees from area rivers. I run a 661 with a 36 in bar when we need to cut underwater or large trees. Its SOOOOO heavy and wears you out using it. I have a 462 with a 25" bar that does our heavy work. Its just great. Now Im trying a 500I next to it tomorrow. If its as good as Im hearing Ill sell the 462 to a coworker and upgrade to the 500I. Just wish I could find a shop in ohio to do porting etc like gordy does.

[@sasquatchrosefarts]

😂😂😂😂😂 40cm? Buy an echo 59cc for $500. On a 40cm bar. 😂😂😂😂

[@MysticalDragon73]

@@sasquatchrosefarts can you put a 93cm bar on it too? not likely

[@jonnysnipes3123]

I have one, I’m not crazy enough to spend 1700 dollars on another chainsaw again lol

[@jonnysnipes3123]

Actually I’m wrong I might get the ms881 just for the hell of it

[@spiercevaughn]

See if your clutch cover bolt studs are backed off at all! I had oil leaking pretty bad on a top handle and the stud had backed off just a little and the bar could not be tightened flush with the rubber seal for the bar oil.

[@jacobsatterfield6909]

Check you trigger springs on the battery husky. Ours stopped working but would power on like normal and one of the springs in trigger mechanisms had come loose

[@Mtematiks]

It's always been like this for men. I am not a pro, just regular user, but Huskys always giving me that feeling, that they could be more durable/refined/wory free, i don't know. All the way I am a Stihl man

[@mrxlh]

His 7900 was stock, a properly ported 7900 Dolly or Makita will hang with the 500i and at half the cost.

[@appoutfeed]

The 500i is definitely a "Buy Once, Cry Once" proposition. I think you'll enjoy that saw.

[@landrelarose745]

The fact of this is that I know he'll greatly enjoy that Stihl. I would rather know.

[@RileyHDD]

I've had my 500 for just over a year, and I love it. Yes, it's expensive, but I completely agree with Jake. The power/weight ratio is awesome, especially cause I'm a smaller guy. I've ran this hard in the rain, the snow and the heat of eastern washington. Zero issues

[@happycamper6352]

Add advanced years/old age and that's where I am. The 500 allows me to have a strong saw without needing steroids to run it all day.

[@Blair62]

I bought a brand new Husq. Used it once. The next day there was a pool of oil underneath it. Took it back to the dealer. He kept it for two months and said he couldn't find a problem. Returned it and it's been fine ever since. According to YT, there is a known problem where the oil tube falls off under the saw. A bit of trouble to fix but not that bad.

[@johnwalt3504]

What model was it?

[@Blair62]

@@johnwalt3504 A 2013 445 x-torq.

[@todmccormick2590]

Heads up from a Stihl mechanic. We are having very few problems with the 500, but are seeing problems with chains causing vibration & stalling engines. Your chain grind is to aggressive. This machine has not got the torque of a 661 and has to have a smother chain grind. They have light weight clutch, sprocket and bearings.

[@em4703]

It can handle the same grind as he uses on his 462 just fine, the torque is between that saw and 661 based on dyno tests. The fact that its ported changes everything for the better too.

[@DMSparky]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@em4703lol, mechanic who repairs saws for a living your chain grind might cause damage to your saw we’ve seen it before vs no you’re wrong the saw has tons of torque on a dyno.

[@em4703]

​@@DMSparky A "Stihl mechanic" isn't really a real mechanic or qualified position, mr "trust-the-fancy-name". You can get that job and follow Stihl guides with zero knowledge just a week of training and ta-da, you're now a Stihl mechanic too. I repair and port saws as a side hobby for 15 years and did hundreds, I'm also a automotive mechanical engineer with a master in material science, if qualifications matter so much to you. I'm pretty sure I know more than you or him about the limits of these small engines as I've tried pretty much anything on them, not just cookie cutter servicing. An "aggressive" grind like Jake uses is a nothing burger, a blunt chain puts more load than any aggressive sharp chain you'll ever be able to produce. That's what the "stihl mechanic" saw, damage by dull chains not aggressive grinds. If a grind is too aggressive you'll know it quick, the saw keeps stalling, a blunt chain won't stall your saw and that's when you'll overheat it

[@jamesbuchanan9937]

Word

[@jamesbuchanan9937]

Stihl Mechanic needs ketchup when they get eaten for lunch!!!

[@ttvilaxell2742]

i see a lot more older stihl saws still in use then i see husq....i think they are also much better quality saws. Personally i have a 362 and a 201tc for about 5 years now never had a single issue with either. i also love my 500i

[@WildAcresFarms]

Depends on the saw! Lots of old OE 372XPs and 395s out there, which are the only huskys in my truck which is otherwise full of Stihl. Better antivibe, WAY better air filtration, and honestly built as tough as the legendary 044 and 066 they compete against. Would I say that about a 550XP or a 572? Probably not.

[@RI-td3gv]

@@WildAcresFarms just had my trusty walkerized 372 blow up, sad day for sure

[@daveyboy6985]

The only real issue i have with the 500i is how the air filter has to be modified so dust doesn't get in, hopefully stilh might have rectified that, and also quite a few loggers have had to modify the spring dampers, as there a bit on the soft side. With the 462 its perfect straight from the shop. When running a smaller bar ( 25in or under) you won't know the power difference between the 500i or the 462, only on the longer bars the 500i does better of course.

[@MysticalDragon73]

Why won't you notice the difference?

[@elijahmcgregor9193]

Good job Jake. Hats off to Gordy, you build a good saw.

[@TheRealEricRose]

Can’t go wrong with the 500i . As long as it’s ported…you get great power and it’s so light…especially if your use to like the weight from a 661 or something around there

[@randledugger9340]

Love love love our 500i. I'm like you, power to weight ratio is AMAZING

[@patrickwinde9802]

Dropping and buckin trees today with my 500 and it's just amazes me how well it does it's light and doesn't have any problems cutting anything I love it

[@stflaherty63]

I am interested in hearing updates on the Husky battery saw repairs. Please let us know if/when you discover the cause of the failure, and how it was (hopefully) fixed. Thanks!

[@chasm9557]

I'm not a professional electric tool repairman, but I've fixed quite a few of my Makita battery tools by opening them up, cleaning them out, tightening all the electrical connectors inside, and if they have them replacing the brushes. I have no clue if his problem with the saw is something as simple as that and I have no clue if he's already attempted similar troubleshooting, but worse case scenario if that isn't the problem it doesn't take too long to do, and the best case is you don't have to pay someone to fix it.

[@Pi0ttRq]

I think that this can be one of probably manny "safe switches", one probably don't have contact so it wont start

[@jonathanbrocklehurst6724]

Try a different battery. My Makita saw wouldn't work with the two batteries I was using and those batteries still worked in my blower and when I swapped out the batteries I had spare it worked.

[@PurpleNovember]

@@jonathanbrocklehurst6724 I was thinking the same thing.

[@ArnoDJ]

Most of the battery tools are easily fixed, just a new microchip and it works like brand new. No different small parts that you have to install and stuff, one simple fix for almost everything! That's why I love battery powered tools.) gardener and landscaper from the Netherlands) ✌🏻

[@svforney]

The sound of the new saw sounds quite powerful. Much more than any of your other saws i have heard on this channel.

[@vfoutlaw]

Ive got an aussie 500i (i was told they make more power than US versions by a saw builder) i run 98 octane fuel only in mine, i have all Gordys accessories. The barbox and intake stack (i felt) made it into a complete animal even without porting. I recently had a 42' bar on, with a full comp chain (not jking) and cross cut a 40' Aussie iron bark (its like concrete) stump. And it tore through it! A few American guys said it was too big a bar and no way full comp chain. I did it as an experiment. And im telling you i was amazed. Then i saw gordy run a 42' bar on instagram and people were freaking out in the comments. I havent bothered porting it and i never get my 066 out anymore. I run 30:1 and 98octane. I really think the 98 makes a massive difference (plus the exhaust and intake), ive watched so many videos of american ported 500s running 36' bars and guys are blown away and honestly the times are the same or similar to my unported 500. I did notice once i added the accessories that the idle changed a lot, sounded deeper and way more aggressive. Sean griggs (saw builder) reckons they are really restricted stock but if you let them breathe the computer has potential to make BIG power

[@josephdignam123]

Most importantly the timber in Australia is 20 times harder than most of the US timber…!! I think the 500i can retard and advance the ignition timing depending on the fuel (and fuel/oil mix)… I only mention this because 98RON is in no way more potent than 95 or 91. The RON rating is the fuels resistance to early ignition or “knock”. 98 is specified only by OEMs for high performance, high compression engines that will experience detonation (knock or Pinging) with a lower rated fuel. The 500i - even if the base gasket was deleted, still wouldn’t have enough compression to pre-ignite 91 or 95RON fuels! In fact the Stihl manual states the requirement of 90RON. Point is, there is likely very little factual or 0 measurable benefit in running 98. Most of it is fuel company marketing bullshit and the important science behind it all gets forgotten. I hope I can save you a few dollars in fuel costs

[@josephdignam123]

Interested to know what your saw builder specifically meant when he said the Aussie saws make more power? Both the US and Aus versions have identical power output specs.. 6.7hp or 5kw. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@vfoutlaw]

@josephdignam123 hey my brother, thanks for detailed response. I'll be the first to say you seem way more knowledgeable than me, I'm a weekend warrior at best lol. I'm a builder (GC) and saws are a hobby for me. We don't have many saw builders in aus but sean griggs is my saw guy. I'll be very honest I can't remember exactly what he said, and I don't want to misquote him. I know little things like stock they don't come baffled here. I'm really trying to remember the conversation. I'll give him a ring and ask again so I can get it right. He does.R and D for stihl and has told me some pretty cool stories.

[@vfoutlaw]

@josephdignam123 dude the wood here is like steel ! My chains blunt so quick.

[@josephdignam123]

@@vfoutlaw I know. Im in Western Australia

[@roguearts1382]

You make it look so easy Jake, the shirt is over the top.

[@andrewhill7071]

Jake, huskys have been a thorn in my side for 30 years or more. Steihl or dolmar these days, very glad to see you back, man, and yeah, we all miss Jed. Thanks again to Gordy, the best damn tuner in the world!!!!

[@jcc3999]

Just so you know Dolmar's are not the same as they once were mikita owns them n makes them Makita acquired Dolmar in 1991

[@markcole6475]

I’ve used husky’s for a long time and no issues other than normal things that any other saw would have….proper 2 stroke oil and tuning is key along with proper maintenance..

[@paulf2529]

I personally would rather have an old fashioned carb. Atleast it can be stripped tuned etc. The 500i are brilliant, but i question the longevity. My favourite big saw is still a husquvarna 390xp.

[@jonathantaylor6926]

I hear you but 25 year old cars that use fuel injection and computers still run just fine.. I was a little weary of fuel injection myself but realistically its actually really old tech at this point, its just finally making its way into tools. My mower if FI too and ive had zero problems.

[@leftyeh6495]

I just bought a 462 because I happened to see an old fashioned carb was still an option. No m-tronic, no fuel injection. I don't use a saw enough to ever wear it out, nor will I need a big bar (I bought a 20" to put on as the 28" it came with was a bit much). Figured in 40 years I can fix a carb, fuel injection parts may not exist. (I'm running into this with my 30 year old trucks, can find parts but they're junk right out of the box 75% of the time). As much as I'll need it, my kids will be tuning it up when I'm gone. My Dad's Stihl 029 is still going 30 years later, and never an issue.

[@happycamper6352]

We've been running the 500i saws for about 2 years almost every day. No problems except the oil leak when stored, and we see that with all of our saws, old and new, regardless of brand. Seems to be a rule with chainsaws. All saws must leak oil if you let them sit for more than a couple hours. It's just the law of the land. Otherwise, the 500 is commonly everything for us in between a top handle and a 880. The other saws have been reduced to pinch recovery and quick sharp tooth when the 500s are dull backups.

[@jcc3999]

​​@@leftyeh6495 lucky fine 462 none MS not that easy to come by good for you am a carburetor man myself all of my stihl are 0 series before 2000 when MS started nothing wrong with adjusting hi low and idle screws

[@JoeHakos]

Nice saw Jake....goes well with the shirt.

[@patrickpoulard24]

Well it's about damn time. I've only been encouraging you to buy one for the last year, that's all. 🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 What more could I possibly say, STIHL RUNS THE YARD 😊👍🏿 #stihlpower #stihlisyourdaddy #stihlrunstheyard

[@swi9945]

The weight difference between the 660 and the 500i is 1.8 pounds. When you use the 500 hard, shut it off, then restart it after letting it sit for 10 to 15 minutes, don't do what the Manuel says and pump it 10 times. It will spit and sputter and is very hard to restart. Just give it a couple of tugs and it will take off.

[@timothysullivan4130]

GOOD comment, I have a ported,bark box & Max-flo air filtered 500i GREAT saw BUT fuel injected is different NEVER pump it.👍✌️

[@mikehewson576]

@swi9945 the trick is to not shut them off straight away after ringing it's neck. Let it idle a bit and then shut it off. Then you can prime as you please and start as per normal

[@swi9945]

@@mikehewson576 Mike, why would you make a saw that has to be handled differently than every saw you have owned? The guy that came up with this idea should be saying "Welcome to Sheetz, pump number 6 is on".

[@mikehewson576]

@@swi9945 well because of the big elephant in the room. A carburettor is not a fuel injector....

[@swi9945]

@@mikehewson576 Very true, but until Stihl figures out how to make a FI saw that behaves like a carburetor one, the average Joe will stick to what he knows. BTW you don't have to take a carbureted saw back to the dealer to put on a computer to see what is going on with the system .

[@willieclark2256]

Honestly reassuring to know that even the pros use their saws like forestry mulchers sometimes

[@cooperhughes2659]

Had a guy I did a small job on a farm with say I couldn’t do that with my 271 whilst we were down in the woods and I said okay you walk back to the truck and get a strimmer and I’ll just do the small trees. By the time he got back I had finished the whole job including the oak that was buried in the brambles we “needed” the strimmer for. Smarter not harder and all that

[@Aubatron]

@@cooperhughes2659 Yeah it is quick and efficient for sure, you just can't get comfortable swinging the chainsaw around like a trimmer. Always gotta be aware of the danger. A lot of people get hurt when they're too comfortable with a specific tool and stop paying attention, that's the real danger.

[@cooperhughes2659]

@@Aubatron 100% man. Complacency is the biggest killer when it comes to any operation of machinery, big or small. Can even apply to cars. You see people get so stuck into autopilot they don’t notice the little things going wrong around them

[@05victorylly]

My ported 500i runs a 32" as well. Its the saw I find myself grabbing most often. Great saw!

[@pakmatherdiverb]

Until it hiccups and needs reset It’s runs hard, mine has all the goodies Watch out for the exhaust bolts coming loose They will strip the case I am looking for NOS 461 and 661 Because the 500i is badass but it has given me a couple moments of grief 500i is great but it’s not more reliable than 461-661

[@ericoverdorff8880]

I bought the 400 mtronic over the 462 last year. Then put a muffler, 3 poing dog's and air fillter from west coast saws. Its a screamer and only weights as much as my 290 farm boss.

[@judithfairchild8620]

Stay safe working with those large trees

[@roadhouse8604]

I have an ancient 064 (OB kit) , and compared to my buddies (stock) 500i, I feel like the 064 has substantially more power, and the weight difference in minimal- which is mine blowing considering the 064 is 35+ years old. I would love to try a ported 500i- might change my mind.

[@ericjohnson6802]

Agree, 064 remains v competitive. 500i don't like skip chains either I've found. 661 is my preferred saw now heaps of grunt.

[@boomupengineering]

I feel better about purchasing my Makita cordless chainsaw. Less than 300 bucks and it runs two 18V batteries I already had. Has plenty of power. It is even cheap to fix. Dropped it 20ft. Bought a complete new case for 28 bucks - replaced in a leisurely 1.5hrs of easy work.

[@chasm9557]

My dad has the same saw, and he likes it so much that he never pulls out his gas saw anymore.

[@looloo6322]

I just cut firewood in the mountains of central Arizona. I'm running a MS271 which I just bought last November. It does the job, just cutting downed oak trees to fill my Tacoma. I miss my days of the 090, 075, 394xp. I think my smallest saw was an 041. They are logging big red pines up where I've been cutting maybe one of the loggers will let me get my hands on a big thumper for a few cuts.

[@ratfarmers]

I love using my 500i with all the West Coast Saw stuff on it! I've only had that running like crap issue once but I learned to let it idle for 15 minutes for it to relearn. You should send that Husky to Rip Saw and see what they can do to it.

[@Odhinn638]

It is a good saw. You really notice it when you're in the tree with it.

[@ozark_trapper]

I bought my stihl ms 361. I just use it to around the farm. And logged Southern pines that a ice storm damaged. I couldn't image running a 500. Growing up my dad's buddy logged. He ran a stihl 600 or 700 something model saw. I was young. I had too fill there saws up for them. It had a 36 inch bar. Hated carrying that saw around.

[@thomaswhaley4024]

I used to run a 56 super with a 38 inch bar day in and out for years. Those saws had maintenance issues if you ran them 40 hours a week, but they held up better than huskies. Loved the low end torque in the 56 super even with an 8 tooth sprocket, and skip tooth chain.

[@cisco5400]

I thought you did some changes to make your husky run faster, if so the reliability is not as good. Trade reliablility for performance. Open the air flow is one thing but the rest is probably not as good idea if you ask me but its just a subjective thought. Thx for great video!

[@GrassRootOutdoorWork]

Love to see a real use of the Echo 7310.

[@fanosoX]

The 500i is my favorite saw for crane picks and felling/bucking medium to large trees. The only people I’ve heard bitch about the 500 are the old timers who think saw technology should have stopped at the 046😂

[@johnnyshell2839]

Ok that's just sexy the way a ported 500i just rips through big wood. I'm so glad for you brother

[@armedarmadillo7492]

That's a nice saw for sure! I hope you'll get the 592 fixed though... Would love to see more of that beast!

[@williamcarl4200]

Thanks! Inspired by you and others I am making my first feeble attempts at videos. For me it is uncomfortable. Great show and money well spent.

[@happycamper6352]

At one time, early on the old channel, he used to censor the swears by replacing audio with a very short chainsaw sound. I thought that was pretty funny.

[@c.j.8423]

I like them and I don’t like them lol. Have three fallers I work with that have switched over to them and they seem to run well. Power to weight is a plus. They all seem to have had to upgrade the clutch cover, the one it comes with seems pretty flimsy. They’re loud as hell with the stock muffler, obnoxious with a bark box. To the point it’s hard to hear your radio unless you have in ear pro coms. If I wasn’t already invested as far as I am in my 372’s, 365’s and 066 I’d likely own one. I like the full warp on the Husky’s over the Stihl’s as well, it’s a lot of little things that keep me from buying a 500i but the seem like a good saw nonetheless.

[@smorgdonkey]

I hope that the ECHO 620 w/27 inch bar that I ordered ends up being the perfect saw for me...because the 500i was only $500-600 more here. I don't have big trees to work but I want to buck logs without bending and killing my back.

[@dp1381]

I love my 620. I run a 28” Tsumura bar with full comp chain and it does well in soft woods but I have to baby it in hardwoods with that bar and chain otherwise it will bog down. I’ve kept the saw stock but I hear they do really well with a muffler mod and/or porting. Echos are awesome value for the money as long as you’re not using them 10 hours/day every day.

[@smorgdonkey]

@@dp1381 I got mine mid week and it wasn't fun to start but after it was going...I really enjoyed it. I am not used to that kind of power as I normally run a 45 cc saw. Cutting with it was akin to using a light saber for me the way that it tore through the wood. I used it again today and I didn't fight it as much to start it. The power is so nice, and not having to bend to buck is great. I think I may have to adjust the high jet though as it often stumbles momentarily in the cut...not bogging down but an odd sputter sound then back to normal. I am guessing it needs a bit of a fatter mix on the high. I will probably put off the adjustment a bit to see how it breaks in. Only 1 tank of fuel through it so far.

[@jonnysnipes3123]

620 is the upgraded 590. If you’re going to get an echo get the 7310p I have that saw and the 500i, the 7310p ported smokes the 500i

[@smorgdonkey]

@@jonnysnipes3123 they had the 7310 in stock but it's $500ish more here (Canada) and the 620 is bigger than what I need really so the 7310 would be over kill in my situation.

[@jonnysnipes3123]

@@smorgdonkey the 7310 will last you a lifetime tho. It’s a basic simple old school design with magnesium all over it. Really durable machine. You may think it’s overkill but trust me you’ll never regret it

[@frankz1125]

I just fixed my 034 stihl. It had a cut in the oiler line. I replaced the line and its back to new. Im not sure if the 592 is similar but it was a fairly easy fix. Send it to me if you want. Cheers

[@georgereidler3130]

Buy Stihl no problems I have a 462 661 never had issues

[@PatrickBlais-jx8we]

Jacob if you can throw it out there to Gordy, possibly a West Coast bar box for the 201 TCM, also the 261 CM. If it’s not too much to ask, and a R rap handle for the 261 CM. I know you had yours custom fabricated from John who’s disappeared. Just thinking out loud.

[@gregwillett2363]

Thanks for taking the time to make this video! Sounds like you've had a few saws in your hand and for you to compliment the 500i is reassuring. I also took note to you cutting the strap below your back cut. This might help me out in the near future doing the same cut........tight chains and straight bars!

[@timothysullivan4130]

I LOVE my 500i have it ported,Barkbox & Max-Flo Filter & run 60-1 96 Octane juice. It EATS GREAT👍👍

[@MTnumber11]

Stihl overall the best. Husky makes a good motor and good air filter. Stihl wins all other categories. 500i is my favorite by far. Bottom end torque is killer. I run a 25" Sugi hara.

[@CatsRcool-b5o]

Husky Anti-Vibration is way better than Stihl. I have had no issues with my 550xp or my 592xp running great no issues. Bjourne Butler runs Husky he has 592xp that Donnie Walker ported, he has ran that for over a year now and has had no issues. Husky's Legit Boyz!!!!! I also run a Sugihara bar on my 592xp 28inch bar legit. Some saws that Husky and Stihl make sadly have issues it happens.

[@fellowbrotherinwar]

I personally don't enjoy running it with over a 25in bar.. any bigger I use 661. Fun fact.. it beats an 25in on an 881 in the cut. And if you leave the suspension loose it's as smooth as butter at 25in

[@PatrickBlais-jx8we]

Thanks for the stickers brother, with the purchase from Sappy Supplies. We got Buckingham carrier. Also, the rope runner pro. I set mine at three, seems adequate. One suggestion make the stickers bigger so I can slap them all over my pick up and give you more free advertisement. As always stay guilty of treeson, thanks brother.

[@aje2498]

I agree with you about huskys having great power but they are a pain in the ass to keep running good. They are temperamental. Stihl 3-5 pulls and you're off to the races every time.

[@barnyardbrio7597]

I can see why you have so many subscribers - great content!

[@natestruck9131]

I'm way farther east than you, we have mostly hardwoods here. I run a 28" bar on my (stock) 500i, and even that occasionally bogs down in dead Green Ash. Ported and cutting softer wood, then definitely a 42"!

[@RICHIE_RICH89]

I seen a lot of saws that dont idle well or that dies time to time work better once they break in well. Maybe ypur carbs off on the makita. Hard to say. Pound it get it to break in hopefully it gets better.

[@JustinSuddreth-hh5tf]

I'm a husky guy all the way but lately been having some trouble with my huskies and I also have 500i and 261 and never have had any problems with my stihl

[@ianbruce4314]

Great video, thanks for sharing, great saw, good that you cut down crap tree's before Some one gets hurt, great job, THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO...live in Port Angeles, NEIGHBORS....

[@briananderson1781]

Glad to see you cut a leaning tree. I mainly cut storm cleanup around farms which can be really dangerous depending on what has happened. I have had several leaning trees that were partially pushed over by another tree. Needless to say there is quite a bit of unusual loads on these trees as a result of them being tangled and pushing on each other. I have used grade 70 transport chain to wrap trunks of trees to prevent barber chair and also used the plunge / strap type cut to keep the tree from splitting. Never thought of cutting the strap lower than the rest of the cut? Not sure I understand why you did this.....

[@jayfrost1178]

The reason for the low back cut is to keep the bar from getting grabbed and ripping the saw out of your hands. If you try to match up with your bore cut the tension wood could pop before you are all the way through, leaving your bar caught in a kerf that's going with the tree as it leaves. Cutting below that means that even if it pops early, everything that's leaving is above your bar. Hope that makes sense.

[@briananderson1781]

Thanks Jay that makes sense.

[@happycamper6352]

@@jayfrost1178 There are a few KZbin vids that show this, and yes, your explanation is pretty good to paint a mental picture even if someone hasn't seen the vids yet.

[@1RCPILOT]

I run my MS 170 with a 32” bar. It cuts through trees like butter! 😜

[@NuDig55]

@GuiltyofTreeson !Great content...have learned so much! Question, I recently procured a stock MS500i and am curious to know how much fuel I can expect to burn through in a day of felling, limbing, and bucking?

[@fellowbrotherinwar]

You definitely have to port it to cut with a long bar.. stock they don't cut well over 32in. Especially in the face cut.

[@jonnysnipes3123]

I have the 500i its an awesome saw. I feel like Most people might struggle to afford it tho it’s almost 2k that saws an investment im afraid to break it lol

[@TTisleofmanTt]

I will take my ported husqvarna 572s over any ported stihl 500i even with the 8cc less.now the stihl 461 is a superb saw better built than the 500i.by the way we own all these saws that I mentioned.572 my fav.

[@burkehoward1511]

Use a Dremel to ream out the oil port on the bar for the 592. The oil port holes are to small

[@54cj3]

Although I’m not pro by any means, I’ve had way more problems with my Husky saws compared to the Stihls. By the way, my Huskys puke bar oil all the time, including when they are sitting still. The tank will just about empty itself sitting on the shelf.

[@goldshieldenterprises692]

I love the bullet pointed explanation for your purchase :)!! Kinda reminds me of someone trying to talk their skeptical wife into a big purchase.

[@nate-408]

The 500i is my next saw. I was torn between the 500i and the 462. I love my 362 as well but i want a 500i with a 32 inch bar.

[@Intoarblife]

I worked with a company called warratah where I used my first 500i. When I serviced it I noticed the handle bar attaches to the carby? I don’t know why but this offends me beyond measure… every five years or less I replace the carby on all my 61 and 42 for around $70 au, instead it’s nearly tripled because I have to buy a bloody handle bar too… not a great fan of auto tuning or the 500i just another way to over engineer and boost the cost of parts… Ill stick with the 61 it’s cheaper too i think…

[@OliverofAllTrades]

Going to bed early for school? Screw that, GoT uploaded! Just spent 30 bucks on Sappy Supplies today in hopes I win the MS 194T to go with my MS 194C rear-handle carving saw and top-handle Makita. Stay safe and enjoy your new saw jake!

[@ThatOldStoner]

Damn son, 934k subs?! Good job! It seems like only yesterday you had 40k.

[@fendtfarmer2138]

quich anual maintance thing do yourself the favor and change the sparkplugs once a year keeps them saws running nice

[@alanwatts9232]

Most bar oil holes are too small these days, I drilled mine out to the same size as older bars.

[@vinnyfyock834]

LETS GO STIHL!

[@Holodomor4.0]

Regarding battery saws have you had a go at the echo dcs 3500 yet? It’s unreal! This is coming from someone who has a collection of classic Stihl professional saws etc… I was very surprised!

[@dan1694]

That 500i just eats like it's nothing. I bought the ms660c and I'm really happy with it. Was a little leery of a fuel injected model because of parts reliability potential. We'll see if I was right. Glad it works great for you.

[@om617yota7]

Same fuel system has been on the TS500i concrete saw for years longer than the wood saw. It's got good history.

[@mountainhobbit1971]

geez that saw has a wild sound when it is really getting into it. Such a sweet idle 'bark'

[@michaelh5942]

Stihl is the best quality💪🏻

[@JamesBond-wy6sb]

I’ve got a 500i a 261 a husky 550xp and a 592xp. The two stihls are awesome saws as are the husky’s when their working! Never had any problems with stihl saws but I’m always pulling my hair out with the husky’s!

[@backwoodslogging8443]

Xp stands for xeta pulls 😂 I liked the old husky saws. But the sthil saws just won't quit year after year of hard use they just keep going

[@russellhelms2835]

Yep, Stihl for me. Bought my 044 brand new in 1995 for $749; took the Rollomatic bar off & added a 20” Duromatic E. Stihl full chisel chains throughout the years. Just cut up a massive oak yesterday (10-22-2023) and it has NEVER given any trouble! My favorite saws throughout the years were the 026, 038 Magnum (excellent saw!), 034AV, and still have my 028AV Super. 044 is just bulletproof😎bone stock.

[@theworkingbrothers2483]

They are the bomb i got 4 of them. The only down part i think is the small gaz tank

[@robertodebeers2551]

I ran four tanks of fuel through my new 500i. The saw was hard to start after warmed up and used. I tried starting it and letting it idle for 5 minutes. Didn't work. I sold it. Went back to my ancient 044 Stihls, and went back to making money.

[@StihlChainsaws]

You may have picked up some sawdust in the oiler when refilling it. TRY ADDING SOME MIXED GAS INTO THE OILER, SO IT CAN BLOW THE SYSTEM OUT. Might pull the clutch cover & see if the hose came off the oiler too... I've had the same issues & it helped me👍 STAY SAFE

[@lewisgiles8855]

I found this comment!

[@vfoutlaw]

98 octane fuel plus the WSC intake and barbox turns them into animals unported. The computer has so much potential they are just really restricted. I often run a 42' with a full comp..i havent bothered porting mine. I dont see the point at this stage. Let them breathe they will outcut a 661.

[@breaking_bear]

My father in law has the same problem with his husky 440! And it hard starts and now won't start at all! I cannot figure out why it's so terrible! If your mechanic figures this out, please do a video or comment what was wrong with it.

[@markcole6475]

If it’s older and or a lot of run time it could be warn out. Like excessive scuffing on the cylinder wall… I also had a hard starting saw before, come to find out the crank seals were hardened and not sealing when cold…..once I got it started it ran fine and would start all day long with no issues…..once completely cooled down it wouldn’t start good.

[@joshmullinnex5113]

Your going to love the ported 500i! I have 2 and they are awesome. Both ported and run 36 bars on them most of the time. Gordy's suspension kit is great for it. Fun saw to run!

[@breaking_bear]

I am so with you about how good the Stihl saws are compared to other saws. I'll never buy another brand unless Stihl really screws up with manufacturing in the future.

[@joeysweet9045]

Heck yea I knew you would wake up one day, Stihl I think is the best homeowner chainsaw and the best commercial chainsaw period! But husqvarna is a bada-s chainsaw they just have reliability issues if used hard they are actually a little faster than Stihl but Stihl has more torque I would rather have reliability and torque than fast any day of the week! Husqvarna fan boy's don't hate on me that's just my experience with chainsaw's!! I wish I could afford a Stihl ms500i I have a Stihl ms441c, ms311 and a ms260 pro and I love them all!!!

[@happycamper6352]

Affordability is a matter of volume. If you are working often, it pays for itself pretty quickly. If you're working less often, maybe a good 362 would be more cost efficient.

[@SorenConradsen]

I’ve had my 500i for about 1,5 years of full time commercial logging putting over 40+ hours on it a week. One thing that I find incredibly annoying is the chain tensioner which simply isn’t built to last. I find myself replacing it probably every 3 weeks or so because it’s either been bent or the threads have been stripped. If you compare the built quality or even the design of the chain tensioner, the huskyies are by far superior with beefier threads and a more simple and reliable design. Other than that it is a damn nice saw to be fair.

[@andrewford80]

Isn't it mad that something like that can be so shit on a top of the line chainsaw. Hope that the feedback gets back to Stihl and they sort it out.

[@bonacker9762]

I work for Cal Fire and we use these on our fire crew and we have experienced the same issue with the chain tensioner... they are cheap weak points that need a serious upgrade. We also are putting a lot of hours on them per week. Power to weight is great but damn they are thirsty.... Going through fuel tank in 25 -30 minutes vs 462 @ 40-50 minutes per tank. 500i smoke our 462s with 24" bars.

[@PimSchouten]

@@bonacker9762do you run them stock or build? Well build 500I are significantly more fuel efficient. At least, thats the experience from everyone I know with a 500I.

[@PimSchouten]

@@bonacker9762cant you put a tensioner from another type of saw on it? Like the barplate thats from a 461 or the suspension from a 661?

[@VeteranTreeService]

Congrats Jacob!!!