4 Revolutionary Riddles Resolved!

[@shingshongshamalama]

"You guessed it was honey. It was actually honey....and two ping-pong balls!" Oh, that Derek. What a character.

[@scottsheffield6474]

You could replace the ping-pong balls with air bubbles and have the same result!

[@axemurderbambi2995]

Brandon Ho so basically a half of jar of honey. Or does it have to be compressed air?

[@ronaskhoury4119]

@@axemurderbambi2995 and half jar would not work, you need something to move the mass around when it stops the first time around, which means you need the empty space to shift, shifting the centre of gravity

[@axemurderbambi2995]

Ronas Khoury thank you! Yeah, that makes sense.

[@ZartaxtheWise]

@@ronaskhoury4119 What do you mean "It would not work."? It works in the video. Half full or ping pong behave basically the same.

[@inventorofmachines]

Pulling the bike forward with the rubber duck tied, and then replaying the video backwards is the coolest way I have seen someone prove a point.

[@sinu0us]

but pulling the string doesn't cause the pedals to go the other way like in the reverse clip... or am I missing something?

[@Slameye]

@ you're not supposed to run at the two speeds for one minute, it's one LAP at each speed, That's how the hell it's impossible.

@@Slameye yeah I get it (I think people explain that to me at least a few times a week for some reason xD haha) --- anyway - what you can still do is this - You can run at INFINITE speed - the second lap. So you run it in 0 seconds, and there you go.

[@Slameye]

@ Well here's the problem: at infinite speed, time (for you) will stop. In order to stop running you have to brake for an amount of time. You don't have time anymore because it stopped. So you're trapped at infinite speed forever. Also, you're everywhere at the same time.

@@Slameye I dont think thats right.. ? Why are you everywhere at the same time? Also, Why do you think time stops, or - you cant stop running. In other ways - what you are saying is that 'space' stops existing when you reach the speed of 300 000 kmh which seems... like not true - or - like an amazing concept to spend a lot of time thinking about.... so can you elaborate please?

[@veritasium]

The research group at Sydney Uni where I did my PhD wants to collect some data on these riddles to see if you learned anything. If you have 2 min, please complete this survey: ve42.co/Rresearch

[@mikuhatsunegoshujin]

Veritasium I'll be glad to participate.

[@johnc6048]

+veritasium Done. Derek, you should pin this post.

[@LateNightHacks]

I learnt that I nailed all 4, damn I'm bad! :p :p

[@Kiptytude]

I think it's a social experiment to see if people are honest to themselves, but to ask if we learned anything is still not deceptive

[@sychokillin]

You should pin this to the top

[@ThatPyukumuku]

Oh, of course It's honey and ping-pong balls It's so obvious

[@RR67890]

Is it clover honey or dandelion honey? Would eucalyptus honey work?

[@cubiecraze]

Yes It is so “obvious”

[@gotjunkin1401]

hahaha lol

[@moritzkuppe4186]

If you think abot it there is no real difference between the balls and just air

[@yankmyass]

I remember the honey trick being used in some murder trick for some detective show I saw

[@smartereveryday]

Came back for the bike.

[@xXJeReMiAhXx99]

it will land practically exactly in the same spot

[@xXJeReMiAhXx99]

yeah so unless I'm missing something the two balls would be spinning and moving exactly the same then when they are separated all of their momentum stays conserved as gravity slowly brings them back together again until they're right as when they started.

[@xXJeReMiAhXx99]

I don't understand what you're thinking here, the small ball separates from the big one but should remain in exact synchronization with it being that there is no resistance or anything else applied, then due to gravity the small ball and the big one both pull towards each other until they're stuck together again.

[@caiomarques2163]

SmarterEveryDay awe

[@swagswagify]

hey kid want a bike, it's in my van.

[@markkmiecik9797]

What if you refuse to run. Then, both laps are run at zero velocity. 2X0=0.

[@andrerichardson]

Mark Kmiecik illuminati confirmed

[@Mangaka-ml6xo]

But can 0 be interpreted as the double of another 0 ? Maybe we should use a -0 that makes more sense x)

[@IndigoStat]

Only the lazy can achieve the impossible.

[@paulah1639]

Peter Petyr roflmao

[@Mochu_s_Junkyard]

Then v2 is not much higher than v1 as he asked

[@KW-12]

For the people that are confused with the second riddle, I’ll show you why he is correct: Let’s call the average speed of each lap: V1=D/T1, and V2=D/T2. Distance is unchanged. The one many are using is Vmean=(V1+V2)/2, which is actually the MEAN SPEED for this case where you have two different speeds, independently of its value, you can find that Vmean=D/2(1/T1+1/T2), so you can actually solve that to find that if you want Vmean=2V1, then you must have V2=3V1. This means that if you run the same distance 3 times faster than the first lap, the mean speed doubles the speed of the original lap. The actual definition of average speed, involves the total distance which is 2D in the total time which is T. Is easy to tell that T=T1+T2. Now if you use this you have that Vavg=2D/(T1+T2), and here is the tricky part. Since you want this to be 2V1 then by solving you have: 2D/(T1+T2)=2*(D/T1), So you’ll arrive to T1=T1+T2,which can only be achieved if T2=0. This in short means that you run at an infinte speed in your second lap, which is physically imposible. Remember don’t confuse MEAN SPEED with AVERAGE SPEED, they are only the same when the speed remains constant during the motion. I hope that this helps. Grettings.

[@eleonarcrimson858]

Oh😅

[@gubbins_3499]

Didn’t read what you said at all but I know that you put a ridiculous amount of effort into this comment so I liked

[@FurtMufin]

You’re awesome

[@anonymoussecret5948]

@Lorenzo Gateau This might make it more clear: When you double velocity, you can either double the distance you ran and keep the time constant, or halve the time you ran and keep the distance constant. (V=D/T) By running the second lap faster, regardless of the speed, you already ran double the distance. You went from 1 lap to 2 laps. This means that in order for the average speed to be 2 times what you did before, the time has to be constant (what I typed in the first paragraph). You would have had to run the second lap in 0 time 1st lap distance 1 lap + 1 lap 2 laps ________________. = 1st lap Velocity _____________________ = __________ = 2* 1st lap velocity 1st lap time 1st lap time+ 2nd lap time 1st lap time You can see there that you can't afford to run the second lap with any time at all. Now let's be clear. This problem is obviously *possible* but just without the constraint of running only 1 more lap. You could run 3 more laps in the time it took you to run the first lap, which means distance = 4 laps and time = 2 lap time, which is 2* the speed of the first lap. But you had to do MORE laps. By running just.1 more and having you velocity double, it is impossible.

[@blak4831]

@leipero You're talking average speed with respect to distance, while he's referring to average speed with respect time - in other words, what average speed actually *is*

[@photon2724]

1:36 when you use the wrong formula but somehow stun yourself and the teacher by getting the right answer.

[@martins96244]

Relatable

[@chrisgeorge84]

That’s called a guess. Doesn’t work with big boy problems

[@FunnyMemes-dr3se]

But a good guess...

[@nonya8694]

@@chrisgeorge84 what's wrong buddy. You got big boy problems?

[@SL-my4fg]

@ this is how my dumb brain thinks too and I want the answer to that too I want explanation.

[@ljmastertroll]

I regret filling my bike tires with honey.

[@habiks]

just add ping pong balls, it will fix itself

[@PatrickOliveras]

Now if you throw it off a balcony, will it move up or will it move down?

[@sirgordinni5154]

It will move to the left, clearly

[@Kuulpb]

Honey in bike tires would not do anything, as you are an outward force moving the pedals.

[@nosirrahx]

Filling your bike tires with honey is the only way to outrun a train rolling backwards uphill.

[@dirt_dert_durt]

4:08 "This may seem like a trick question, but actually, it's a trick question"

[@NisseVex]

lol yeah

[@duplicantlivesmatter9083]

It’s not a trick question, it’s an inaccurate response to that question. He simply isn’t correct. Sorry

[@robinschulz458]

@@duplicantlivesmatter9083 why isnt he correct ?

[@his_mum]

@@robinschulz458 because you can decrease the time to get a faster velocity. 2V=D/(half) T. a.k.a. he math bad

[@robinschulz458]

@@his_mum no think about it...

[@stefanf922]

The track run is the same as the bartender joke, first patron asks for a beer, second asks for 1/2 beer, 3rd 1/4... bartender stops them all and pours 2 beers and says, "you've got to know your limits. "

[@stevemotocrayz2892]

"I don't believe you. ." Well, you've got to believe in something. . . "OK. . . .I believe I'll have another beer🍺..."

[@dharmani_youtube]

Sorry dumb dumb here. Don't get it

[@kleim3139]

@@dharmani_youtube If there would be an infinite amount of people asking for beer in the same pattern then the amount of beer in total would go against 2 beer (but never exactly hitting 2 Beer) . Kinda hard to explain, look up what the limit of a funtion is if you want it explained better.

[@gistfilm]

I'm surprised people are so confused. The "track run" question was the easiest question he asked!

[@191246mann1]

@@gistfilm then answer it then

[@everWonder]

Nice, my video response was used. :) I'm not in the description, but I'm happy to be part of the solution video. ^^

[@nahueljo]

He should add you to the description. Your video answers all questions correctly and he even used part of it in his!

[@H0A0B123]

you should fight for your rights

[@Pbhavik155]

everWonder - about the world? He should have added your video in the description...

[@veritasium]

Hey - sorry for the oversight. I very much enjoyed your video and will add your link.

[@everWonder]

Wow, just posted before going home from work. Didn't expect that. It was no problem at all. As long as people have fun learning, I'm happy to be part of it. ^^ And thanks for choosing my video. :)

[@carsandclimbing]

I actually really like these types of videos, please do more!

[@joshuakim4493]

I'm with you on that one. It's fun getting the juices flowing... in the head... not down south...

[@veritasium]

When I have more good ideas, I'll do more. It's tough to find problems that are interesting, that everyone hasn't heard already etc.

[@Aymancool66]

Veritasium i didnt understand the twice of the average speed of v1 riddle why was it wrong to do it mathematically?

[@RenoSai]

Veritasium, I was wondering what you think about the idea of running the track (problem 3) on an inside lane. say it's 1k long. then the next lap, you run on an outer lane that is slightly longer, say 1.01k. then all you need to solve it is to run .01 times faster in the outer lane to finish in the same time and thus making 2v1. it may be a trick, but it's the same as the fog on the spinning floor. and still plausible. what do you think?

[@Teth47]

+Veritasium Have you done anything on the latent heat of fusion/vaporization yet? Lots of people don't realize that it takes energy to convert the water into steam, even if the water is at 100C, or to convert ice into water, even if it's at 0C. Could also include how salt actually gets rid of ice, and how the whole system's temperature lowers even though there's the same amount of latent energy present.

[@Drestanto]

3:56 If you run at the speed of light, according to special relativity, in the runner frame of reference, it will take 0 time to go anywhere. So the average speed is indeed twice.

[@sajinssha]

Speed of light is still finite. Not 0

[@enermatrix4053]

@@sajinssha From a particular reference point, the time taken would be 0 due to relativity.

[@pilotdan7798]

@@sajinssha Yes the speed of light is finite, and will be observed to be exactly the same speed in any frame of reference. Right up to the point that you actually REACH the speed of light. At that point, you can not "witness" the speed of light, as there is no light to witness... No light will ever be able to "catch" you. According to special relativity, if you were to travel at the speed of light, you could travel a distance of 5,000 light years, and exactly 0 time would pass for you. Meanwhile, 5,000 years would pass for us here on earth.

[@benwincelberg9684]

👏 of course you have to be massless

[@UltraCasualPenguin]

@@benwincelberg9684 What if my mass is greater than estimated mass of M87 black hole?

[@gblargg]

5:20 Actually the flange isn't what keeps the train on the rails most of the time. The wheels are slightly conic. Feynman has a great video about this.

[@thekritikseth]

Theoretical answer to the Running Question- Let the circumference of the ground be 'd' average speed = total distance/total time therefore let the velocity for first lap be v1 and velocity for second lap be v2 time for first lap be t1 and time for second lap be t2 t1= d/v1 t2= d/v2 total distance = 2d (circled the ground 2 times) average velocity = 2d/(d/v1 + d/v2) =[2d(v1v2)]/[d(v1 + v2)] (d gets cancelled out) =2v1v2/(v1+v1) now this velocity should be equal to 2v1 therefore 2v1=2v1v2/(v1+v2) = 2v1(v1+v2)=2v1v2 (2v1 gets cancelled from both sides) = v1 + v2 = v2 (v2 gets cancelled from both sides) = v1 = 0 but if v1 = 0 the time will become infinite, so practically this is not possible unless v2 = infinite But going deep into the terminology used He said "what will be the velocity" velocity is a vector quantity and it is equal to displacement/time while circling a ground we are coming back to our original position so displacement = 0 hence velocity in both the cases would be zero the correct terminology here would have been speed or angular velocity (omega) Thanks for reading.

[@Zenanov]

While writing avg. velocity, you cancelled out a single 'd' with '2d'

[@fuseteam]

Thanks that's just what needed

[@MrAlRats]

When you cancel a quantity from both sides of an equation, there is an implicit assumption that the quantity being cancelled is not zero.

[@the-iter8]

Zenanov yeah only d would be canceld out. nigga please, learn maths first.

[@seemaparween3280]

U should have subtracted 2v1v2 from both sides which would have left u with 2(v1)²=0.....

[@cavemann_]

When it takes you 2 years to actually get the joke.

[@BESTofAlp]

Which joke?

[@cavemann_]

@@BESTofAlp "revolutionary" all objects in the video "revolve"

[@BESTofAlp]

@@cavemann_ ahhhh :D haha okay thanks 😄

[@Viniter]

Lots of surprising answers in this one... but nothing baffles me as much as the fact it took me since last week to realise why you called those riddles "revolutionary". Damn puns...

[@JamieStivala]

Viniter you just made me realize.

[@zain4019]

Jamie Stivala me too xD

[@ha-il9bd]

I still don't get it.Explain please??

[@zain4019]

Serene Shrestha All the riddles have to do with revolution and rotation of some sort. So they’re...revolutionary, as veritasium put called it:)

[@09022878]

And there is the true answer to all these riddles!

[@geoffschulz]

FYI: The flange on a train wheel is only necessary on extreme curves. On straight tracks and even gentle curve tracks, the taper on the wheel's tread creates a cone shape that expands towards the middle of the train. this has the characteristic of automatically centering the train wheels on the track as it travels. If the train wheels required the flanges to stay on the track, the friction would make it inefficient and impractical.

[@sophie6878]

okay but even if theres only a taper, that taper basically works the way the flange does because some part will always extend futher than the point of contact

[@geoffschulz]

@@sophie6878 The difference is, the flange is a hard stop to keep the wheels on the track in an extreme condition, where the taper allows the wheel to track and auto-center without inducing unnecessary friction.

[@sophie6878]

@@geoffschulz i know that but my point still stands.

[@191246mann1]

that's interesting yes I can see the flanges would wear down fairly quickly if working hard all the time ,

[@The93Vector]

Also, the flange on the train wheel is NOT moving backwards. Think of a bulldozer track in place of the wheel of a car. When the track is on top, its velocity is twice the velocity of the dozer, and when it hits the ground its velocity is zero until it’s picked up again on the other side. Great. Now think of a bulldozer track, but on a rail, and with a flange to keep it on the rail. How fast does the flange move when the rest of the track is touching the rail? If it’s anything but zero, the track will tear itself apart, because because the flange is still attached and part of the track that isn’t moving.

[@axxnub]

REVOLUTIONARY riddles... I finally caught the pun after 2 years of rewatching the video

[@anoijp8601]

?

[@axxnub]

@@anoijp8601 revolutionary as in, it revolves (goes in circles)

[@anoijp8601]

@@axxnub ooo thanks

[@aromorguythefirst1600]

Oh god same I feel so dumb because I didn't realize it.

[@davidismdumdu]

So dumb

[@ByteFilm]

I'm looking forward to more riddles like these.

[@ab-rk1lu]

EEDude i'm looking backwards! wait... it depends...

[@lhr9scout10]

2#you don't move...0X2=0 0+0=0 etc.

[@weignerg]

Lhr9scout10 or just move really slow...

[@iout]

doesn't quite work like that, you still need to complete 2 laps. So if you don't run 2 laps, you don't meet the conditions of the question, so it doesn't work. Also, moving slowly doesn't work, because his explanation is scale-able.

[@dwurry1]

Fine. Bring on the boring physics homework! My science will kick your dogma every time.

[@chaoticgood7128]

3:56 : "Even if you when the speed of light..." Actually, from your reference frame going the speed of light, no time will have passed going the second half of the distance. It really depends on the reference frame of the measurement.

[@MrLelopes]

Underrated comment. This deserves a spotlight.

[@magicianwizard4294]

@@MrLelopes yeah this is smart, but idk about you guys, I assumed that first picture of the train in the first video was the point of reference.

[@stefan514]

Well no time would pass for you while running at the speed of light, but for anyone stopping your time it will.

[@uwerlmi6120]

I think instead of having no time pass, you meant no distance pass because even having your reference frame move at the speed of light, that still takes up time.

[@uwerlmi6120]

Leandro Lopes looks like this guy didn’t understand a thing

[@yanjun3696]

Who needs notification when you're on youtube 24/7 😂😂😂

[@Ntnt11]

Aizdo Aizde 😂😂

[@E-A-Z-Y]

Aizdo Aizde life

[@NoahTopper]

You get me.

[@alvarolopes2067]

Aizdo Aizde true

[@Maxmason5695]

Never been so true

[@HungryTacoBoy]

Another way to think of the track question is this: Imagine you and another person both start at the start line and agree to run a two lap race. You're out of shape and they're a very good runner, but you're slowly improving with their training and you like the challenge. You line up at the start line, do a countdown, and then start running. You notice that the other person quickly gets away, easily outrunning you. Once you get to the end of the bend you see they've reached the end of the straight, twice as far as you! You then decide to only focus on your running. Once you get onto the final straight of your first lap you're feeling pretty good, thinking to yourself that you can keep this pace up for the whole two lap race. As you're approaching the end of your first lap, you turn around and see them running you down! You and the other person cross the line at the exact same time, you having completed your first lap, or half the race, and them having completed the whole race of two laps. How fast do you need to go on your second lap to tie them at the finish line? Here it makes more intuitive sense that, since you both are at the exact same line with them having finished the two lap race while you've only completed one, you've run out of time to catch up to them to make your average speed twice that of your first lap, or 2V, which happens to be the very pace they were running because they're very fit and you're not. You would need to travel twice the distance in 0 time. This is why it's impossible (mostly because you're a fluffy couch potato 🛋️ 🥔 ... run more 😉😅).

[@jeremyxavier1939]

this actually made me understand it thank you

[@sammyruncorn4165]

Well that makes sense. If you're running against someone. But i you yourself are making two laps and can choose to run however fast or slow you like. Can't you then just run e.g 1 or 3km/h for the first round and 3km/h or 9km/h for the second round?

[@HungryTacoBoy]

@@jeremyxavier1939 You're welcome. 👍

[@HungryTacoBoy]

@@sammyruncorn4165 You can do the math to find out that it is impossible. Turn the track, instead, into a straight track that's 2 km long, with a line at 0 km, a line at 1 km, and a line at 2 km. We'll also use your numbers. You decide to run from the 0 km line to the 1 km line at a pace of 1 km/h, which takes you 1 hour. You now need to run to the 2 km line in such a way that your average speed is 2 km/h. Using your numbers, you run from the 1 km line to the 2 km line at 3 km/h, which is ⅓ of an hour or 20 minutes. You have travelled a total of 2 km over the time span of 1 ⅓ hours. That makes your average speed 1.5 km/h. Let's run from the 1 km line to 2 km line faster this time, let's say 60 km/h. You will get from the 1 km line to the 2 km line in 1 minute, or 1/60 of an hour. You have travelled 2 km in 1 and 1/60th of an hour for an average speed of 1.967 km/h. Let's do from the 1 km line to the 2 km line at the speed of light, which is 299,792.458 km/s. You travelled 2 km in 1 and 0.000 000 000 927th of an hour. That gives you an average speed of 1.99999999815 km/h. It still isn't a 2 km/h average speed, even when your second half is the speed of light. Are you starting to see that the question is a trick question where the math, if you plot it out with various speeds for the second half, involves an asymptote? You can approach a 2 km/h average speed, but you will never reach it. Here's what the question is really asking: can you run a set distance and then cover twice that distance, in no additional time, so that your average speed is twice that of whatever speed you ran over the original set distance? It doesn't matter what the original distance is as long as you have to then travel some multiple of that distance further and wind up with the same multiple faster than you travelled over the first distance. The distance could be 1.1 feet where I challenge you to travel the first foot at whatever speed you like and then travel the additional 0.1 feet so that your average speed is 1.1 times that of your first foot speed. Your denominator, which in this case is time, needs to remain the same. You travelled 1 km in 1 hour, so 1 km/1 hour. Now you somehow need to double your speed to 2 km/1 hour. You need to double your distance but you have no additional time to use up. The key is that the distance is doubled but so is the average speed. The distance could be tripled and the average speed tripled and the trick would remain the same.

[@Quickhanf]

@@HungryTacoBoy thank you for the detailed explanation!

[@utsavmanandharz156]

Everybody who replied "my balls " to the 1st question got it right

[@jf17thunder63]

What does that mean?

[@utsavmanandharz156]

@@jf17thunder63 immature joke i made a year ago. Still find it funny tho

[@nothingtoseeheremovealong598]

Utsav Manandharz Regret nothing

[@freemang8189]

@@utsavmanandharz156 see you next year

[@kristopherguilbault5428]

@@utsavmanandharz156 lol 😂😆☠️ 🔥

[@ma.k7601]

Simplifying problem 2 with no advanced algebra: The trick is that people intuitively think that 2 laps means 2 runs, where you clock each run. The solution is then obvious... But it's a trick question: he's not asking you to do 2 runs, he's asking you to do 1 run, that consist of 2 laps, where the total speed of the run is double the speed of the first lap in that run. Since the time it will take to complete the run will always be greater than the time it takes to complete the first lap of the run, the answer is that its impossible. It will always take more time to complete 2 laps than it takes to complete 1 lap in the same run. No need for any equation here. Common sense, trick question. So here is the simplified version of the question: Can you complete a whole run faster than it took you to complete half of the run? The answer is obviously no. Forget laps and averages and doubles and what have you. 😂

[@AymaneAbaich]

Your explanation is way clearer than what he says !!

[@Guapter]

that the problem, he tells about laps all this question. And most right think of it - Average speed it is a speed of first lap + speed of second / 2. Problem is in his wrong question explanation. So how he ask question - the wright answer is 3*V.

[@MarkLipka]

*Clearer question.*

[@pekvek]

u idiot, u run one lap speed x, u run 2nd lap twice that speed, easy, but not for dummies

[@unclebeau4606]

@@pekvekIf the goal was the average Speed of both laps the goal you would still be wrong. Your avg speed for the second lap would have to be 4 times faster than the avg speed of the first lap. However it is half the time it took to run the first lap that is requested. If the first lap took 2 minutes it would of course be impossible to do them both in 1 minute total.

[@brandonz404]

I just watched the first video like "dang. Now I gotta wait a week." And then saw this in my recommended and realized it was uploaded 4 years ago haha

[@obliv6926]

Finally i can feel smart for a change! Riddle 2 was easy with simple math and times of laps, not speeds. If you run a lap in 30 seconds, how fast should you run the second lap in order for the average of the 2 laps to be 15 seconds? Well... you should run the second lap in 0 seconds, so.. there...

[@obliv6926]

@ But don't forget you must keep with restrictions set by the problem. 2 laps is all you've got. So the second half of your run must have the same distance of the first half. If your 'lap' is 1km long, you only have 1km more to cut that average in half. Can't do 3km.

@@obliv6926 oh yeah. Btw simple - thinking is inteligent thinking. The best way to think - is the simplest one. ;) Anyway - so basically the guy should just say - HEY I ran the second lap, but you didn't see it, since I've done it in 0 seconds! In other words - to solve this, the guy just needs to not run the second lap at all... (but say he did) - and there you go ;) problem solved!

[@beluwuga2573]

@ Bruh just acknowledged that you were wrong.

@@beluwuga2573 I'll do that if you acknowledge that I also solved the problem

[@beluwuga2573]

@ not really, how did solve the problem? If he's incompetent like you then maybe he'd believe that someone finishes the 2nd lap with the average of 2V1.

[@adamlowy3141]

You're right that the flanges are to keep the train on the track; but only a last resort, they're not designed to contact it - they'd be moving relative to it so they would wear and waste energy. It's the fact that the wheels' rolling surfaces are slightly wider on the inside that keeps it on the track normally: so the train is lowest when it's central and gravity corrects any deviation. Incidentally, it's the conical wheels which mean trains don't need differential gears. In a curve, the train is thrown out, so the outer wheel contacts the rail at a point where its diameter is greater (and vice versa)

[@davidvirgilio4166]

Thank you. I came here to say the same thing

[@carmium]

All us rail buffs will know that, but you might mention that it doesn't change the physics of the riddle.

[@beachgrinch]

that was my only nitpick... though I only learned that from watching a video with Feynman

[@davideisner6171]

Cool train info. Thanks.

[@obliviousjim8921]

interesting answers, (thanks for using my video response)

[@veritasium]

thanks for making it!

[@tim..indeed]

Easy explanation for the running track riddle: Let's say your speed is 1min for 1 lap. To double your speed over 2 laps, you would need to run 2 laps in 1min. Since you already took 1 min for the first lap it's impossible to complete another lap. This works the same no matter the speed.

[@sangeetsarang7136]

*time is 1 min

[@MrMR-sk8jm]

But in my physics class, i learned that average velocity was just (initial velocity + final velocity)/2 We would get questions like, you travel with a velocity of 10m/s for 5 seconds, then a speed of 100 m/s for 3 seconds, what's your average velocity? This is why it's hard for me to comprehend that it's not possible

[@sangeetsarang7136]

@@MrMR-sk8jm See, average speed is a single value of speed with which you could travel a given distance and still take same amount of time as in the case where you will travel with different velocities. Actually that is the essence of average.

[@sangeetsarang7136]

@@MrMR-sk8jm Even in your example, (v1 + v2) /2 will give 55m/s but to travel 350m in 8 second with a single constant speed, you will have to travel with 350/8 = 43.75m/s. And this is your actual average speed.

[@Rolo7Shooter]

@@MrMR-sk8jm first lap velocity is 1 minute/lap. How fast do you need to run the second lap so that your average velocity is twice your first lap? You need to attain an average of 30 seconds/lap. Since you’re only running the second lap, you’ve already reached your limit of 1 minute per 2 laps (by running 1 minute the first lap). If you were to run the second lap at 1 second/lap (60x the velocity), your total time would be 61 seconds in 2 laps, or an average of 30.5 seconds/lap.

[@arashmoradian1988]

For those who found the explanation for the speed thing confusing, the average speed of the person is the total distance divided by total time, or Vav = (v1*t1 + v2*t2)/(t1 + t2) keeping in mind you are supposed to run only 2 laps, the total distance you have ran is 2d and total time is t1+t2 then Vav = 2d/(t1+t2) since v1=d/t1 and we need the average to be 2v1 then we need t2 to become 0 which is impossible !

[@matrixphijr]

That's literally how he explained it. How does your comment make it less confusing for anyone who didn't get it the first time?

[@owesmehboob3829]

@@matrixphijr it did That helped me a lot

[@sammyruncorn4165]

Well I didn't (in general). I'm too dumb. Can't one just walk like 3km/h for the first one and then 9km/h for the second so it averages at 6km/h. The distance is the same for both lapses so doesn't matter? That's what I thought, but I'm probably too unintelligent to get it...

[@matrixphijr]

@@sammyruncorn4165 Okay, so the key difference is that a racetrack is a fixed distance. If you were driving on a highway, for instance, you could absolutely do that. Say you travel 30km/h for one hour. Now you’ve gone 30km, right? So in order to make your average speed 60km/h, you can absolutely travel 90km/h for the next hour to make the total average 60km/h. But remember, that means you will have gone 90km in the 2nd hour. On a track, you can’t change the distance traveled like that unless you run more laps. Take that same highway scenario, but imagine there is only 60km of total road. Once you drive the first hour, there is only 30km of road left, _so you cannot just drive 90km to boost the average._ Even if you drive at 90km/hr for the second hour, you will run out of road after 20 minutes, and your total travel time will have been 1.333 hours to go the 60km (which obviously isn’t a rate of 60km/hr). In fact, it turns out that no matter how fast or slow you run the first lap (or drive half the road), your time for the second will need to be 0 in order to double your average - which obviously isn’t possible. Long story short, if you were able to run 3 laps after the first in the same total time you had run the first, that would double your average speed. But with only one more lap, it physically can’t be done.

[@matrixphijr]

@@sammyruncorn4165 Also thank you for literally making my point that OP didn’t explain jack squat lol. No offense.

[@khaledaly3752]

Awesome video as always. I've just recently started my own science channel and I'm happy to say I found inspiration watching your channel and many others. Thank you and keep up the great work!!

[@sadmemeboi]

3:25 that implies that your average speed is measured over *time*. If you were to take the average speed over distance it is definitely possible.

[@killer2600]

Speed (Velocity) = Distance / Time...If it didn't take time to cover distance, it'd be easily doable but that pesky time stops for no-one.

[@huepjr5606]

You are calculing your average value like: Avg Value = ( Value 1 + Value 2 )/2. The problem is that speed is the product of dividing distance and time (d/t), so the average velocity is calculated like: Avg Velocity = Total Distance / Total Time, so in that 2nd problem if you wanted the average velocity to be equal to 2 times Velocity 1, then you had: 2 V1 = (d+d)/(t1+t2)=(2d)/(t1+t2) and V1 = d/t1 so 2 times V1 equals 2d/t1, so: 2d / t1 = 2d/(t1+t2) For making that equation equal, you need to make t2 = 0, thats why its impossible to make the average velocity equal to 2 times velocity 1 (V1).

[@HAHA_468]

Huep JR why couldn’t you make V1*2 = d/(1/2)t1

[@huepjr5606]

@@HAHA_468 Well, saying 2*V1 = d/(1/2)t1 is basically saying that you can double V1 by running the distance of V1 in half the time, but it doesnt say anything about the average speed, if you wanna desenvolupate the average speed into other things you need to start from Vavg = total distance / total time. if you start from another equation then your results arent "talking" about the average speed but about obvious things like "To double the speed you need to run the same distance but half the time".

[@HAHA_468]

Huep JR thanks for the clarification 👍

[@AstAMoore]

The flanges don’t actually play that much of a role in keeping the train on the track. In fact, most of the time (read: in normal operation), they don’t touch the rail at all. It’s the geometry of the rolling part of the wheel (it’s cone-shaped) that does the trick.

[@veritasium]

good note!

[@SLK99218]

What's the name of the program you used for train wheel simulation?

[@TheObsidianX]

Ast A. Moore so are they just a safety measure?

[@AstAMoore]

Pretty much. Just to make sure the train doesn’t get derailed if there’s a track defect or in case of an emergency situation (like something bumping into a train sideways).

[@Micz84]

Not only for safety. In turns there is a cant so when train turns to the right, right rail is lower them left. Without flanges, it could slip from the track if it would have to slow down on that part.

[@cbc4580]

Now I Understand why The Title is "REVOLUTIONary Riddles"

[@celsorosajunior]

My mind exploded when I realized why "revolutionary" riddles! LOL

[@Mayank-mf7xr]

oh man

[@spirko97]

At 6:22, there is an incorrect statement. The explanation is as simple as "the net force is backwards so the bike goes backwards." The complication is that the pulling force isn't the net force. The net force is the total of all of the forward friction and the backward pulling force. Whichever force is stronger will be the direction of the net force.

[@veritasium]

good catch!

[@haelscheirs_haven]

+Veritasium I am posting this here as I was particularly bugged that no one seems to have addressed the importance of torque and rotational dynamics in answering the bike pulling problem. The trochoid may provide a geometrical solution, but it has little predictive use if one had to calculate the acceleration of the bike with respect to the pulling force and gear ratio. As per net force, I'd say it has little to do with the problem at all. Assuming an infinite coefficient of static friction, regardless of the "net force", the bicycle would remain stationary; in this system, motion is only possible if the state of the system permits the rolling action of the wheels. Torque must be given consideration as there would otherwise be no way for the bike to move even kinematically. Regardless of the shape of the trochoid, there must be a condition at the point of rest where equilibrium dictates the acceleration of the bike; the derivative of the trochoid at that rest point would yield zero and no indication of the expected direction of rotation. Newton's "Second Law of Rotation" must be adhered to. In Armchair Explorers' video response in /watch?v=S1yX_LTqtms, I posted a comment mathematically deriving equations relating the _net torque_ to the dimensions of the bike and the applied force; I didn't have the resources to fashion a response video then. In the replies to that comment, I rearrange my equations and derive the same formula shown at 7:41. Just from first year first term university physics, I immediately saw it as a "basic" rotational dynamics and torque equilibrium problem. Torque is perhaps quite complex to most, but as you have in the past addressed misconceptions about translational forces, it might be an excellent educational opportunity to address misconceptions about the dynamics of rotation. Otherwise, these have been very thought provoking "revolutionary" riddles and I admire your work.

[@spirko97]

+Dan T The friction force is immensely important here, though the friction coefficient is not. Static friction is a useful force because it can have any value up to a limit. Since it opposes relative sliding, we just attempt the sliding and static friction pops up as a constraint force to prevent it. As long as we don't ask for to much static friction force, it's okay. Torque balance is certainly important to determine how much force is being exerted. The pedal arm length, gear ratio, and wheel radius all play a part.

[@haelscheirs_haven]

+Jeff S To assume perfect rolling in this system "independent" of the applied force, we must also assume the parameters governing static friction (coefficient of static friction and normal force) to be as large as possible. An infinite coefficient of static friction simply sets for our model a limitless supply of a reactionary force to keep the wheel kinematically constrained to perfect rolling, assuming that sliding/kinetic friction is out of the question for possible solutions; in our case, it provides a limitless supply of counterclockwise torque moment upon the rear wheel proportional to the applied force at the pedal. As per torque, I'd argue that it is _much more important_ when discussing any form of motion at all involving rotational elements; "static friction" is but a variable constraint applying an opposing torque to the torque imparted from the pedal. The bike _will not move_ unless the torque moments imparted by static friction and the applied force are unbalanced. _net torque = sigma_tau = tau_1 + tau_2_ where angular _acceleration = alpha = I * sigma_tau_ . Torque balance is not about determining "how much force" as opposed to whether the bicycle wheels will undergo any rotational acceleration leading to translational motion at all. If you would review my analysis from my comment in /watch?v=S1yX_LTqtms, I calculate how these torques play out and eventually arrive upon the same relationship shown at 7:41 of this video. This is all from university physics.

[@rocheuro]

i really enjoyed it! :D one of the most valuable channel on youtube! Greets from Poland!

[@patz9792]

3:20 but the time doesn't matter the velocity needs to be doubled the time it takes doesn't change the velocity

[@Whimsical418]

For the track riddle, Isn’t velocity displacement over time? Therefore, since the total displacement is zero because it is a loop and you end up back where you started, it doesn’t matter what the second lap is. 2x0=0. As long as you complete the second lap you have done it.

[@mfml94]

He corrected himself in the video description. Whenever he said velocity, he actually meant speed.

[@hippopotamus86]

What have the ping balls got to do with the first one? It's just air, and you get the same effect from without using them, just your container was smaller so it was a bias demonstration.

[@soylentgreenb]

There might be a small difference. The honey sticks to the walls of the cylinder and the behaviour could change over time as it rolls down the slope compared to the initial state of no honey at the top of the cylinder and the bottom half full of honey, where as the ping pong balls always behave as spherical bubbles.

[@aripocki]

You need to keep the air bubbles together. In honey, air would float to the top and release/break through the surface. The only way to get this to work is to have the honey continually push the air bubbles down, which float back up by themselves.

[@fakharyarkhan5848]

For the track question, you never specified whose reference frame we're measuring the time in. So in the reference frame of the runner, if he moves at the speed of light on the second lap, it will appear to him as if no time passed by in the second lap.

[@bittyshottoms1007]

Is there a way to run the track backwards (ie in the opposite direction as the first lap) at, I dunno, half speed of the first lap so that you.... never mind

[@bittyshottoms1007]

Wait...if you run on the outside track on the first lap, then the inside track on the second lap then it is surely possible??

[@minor_edit]

I'd like to see him try

[@erikjensen6874]

The bike question also depends upon the friction between the back tire and the floor. With insufficient friction, it is not possible to move the bike forward by pulling backward. The same would apply to pulling backwards on the flange of a train wheel.

[@МихаилКондаков-х7м]

I don't think so. See, for the bike to roll forward the pedal must always be travelling forward with respect to the ground. If the pedal actually moves back, the bike will skid back, with its back wheel rotating normally, as when it is moving forward. If the friction betwen the tire and the ground is too great and does not allow it, you won't be able to move the pedal backward. The bike will be standing still.

[@NMTCG]

one thing to consider is if your velocity is zero (you don't move). then next lap your velocity is zero and zero is double of zero. ;)

[@NMTCG]

and another one would be if you do the first lap at the speed of light, the second one would be double as C is constant and 2C=C, no?

[@NMTCG]

and another one if you do the first lap backward (velocity -1) and the second lap forward, the speed would be double? :D

[@freezedeve3119]

when you go speed of light you do not have time, so question is who measuring time in this, runner or outsider?

[@scr4932]

@@NMTCG I doubt you can do the first lap backwards because when I tried to calculate it, I got a concrete v1 = 0 with no other answers (i.e. exactly what I'd do if someone was forcing me to get off my ass and do a lap)

[@Greennoob2]

None of these suggestions work. You need to go around the track to complete a lap which requires you to have a velocity greater than 0. -V is the same as a forward V, all - tells you is the direction

[@l1fer0se]

you could zig-zag during the second lap, thus doubling your distance traveled.

[@godlfire]

Yes thankyou finally someone with a brain, I don't know how many comments i had to go through to see someone with an actual right answer. His original question never specified the laps were the same distance, thus it is NOT impossible.

[@mateocosta1770]

Aris Nikoletopoulos In fact you wouldn't be dobuling your distance, you would be changing you trayectory. The distance is a rect line between point A and point B. If you ran to the middle, went back to point A and then ran back to point B, the distance would be the same as if you ran in zig-zag from point A to point B.

[@l1fer0se]

Mateo Costa the distance between them will remain the same, of course; the distance you travel however will increase. Velocity is calculated using the distance traveled, not the distance between your start and finish point, or am I wrong??

[@overwrite_oversweet]

Mateo Costa, that's (net) displacement, not distance.

[@spiznas]

no, speed is calculated using distance traveled. (s=d/t) velocity is calculated using displacement (v=x/t) however, because this track is circular - displacement is actually zero (start point and end point are the same) and therefore average velocity is also zero (v =0/t). which is why in this video he corrected velocity to speed. but then people want to try be 'smart' by arguing semantics and say 'oh well you never said lap distance is constant'. okay fine, well done, he didn't say distance is constant but that's clearly what he meant. if you zig zag in a 100m sprint, do you get to call it a 300m sprint? no. end of the day, the question is supposed to have distance fixed. if distance isn't fixed then youre asking a different question. so now that the clarification has been made, can you solve it?

[@raular4322]

in 3:45. why not use instead of 2d/t , d/(t/2)? you can't increase the distance but decrease the time it's possible.

[@MartinPoulter]

If you've already run a lap, any more running will increase your total distance, not decrease it.

[@Porglit]

Exactly. Veritasium is wrong on this one. By increasing the distance by a factor of 3, you get 4 laps in twice the time, which reduces to 2V1. If v1 = 1 lap per minute, and v2 = 3 laps per minute, then total is 4 laps in 2 minutes, which is the same as 2 laps in 1 minute (exactly twice v1). It's 100% doable, but Veritasium goofed big time on this one.

[@ab-rk1lu]

Porglit no... you cant add speeds like that to get 4 laps, because you only need to run one more lap. what you did is equivalent to adding fractures by simply summing the numerators apart and the denominators apart... this way 1/2+1/3=2/5

[@Porglit]

@a b: Ah. You could eventually get up to 2V1, but it wouldn't be in just the next lap. Good point.

[@ShinDMitsuki]

2d/t is the result you want. t is defined as the time it takes to do the first lap. How are you going to double distance but keep t the same? t1 + t2 = t1 For that to be true t2 has to equal 0, so you can't do it on the next lap.

[@denislyons]

ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT. Please make more of these....

[@prasadsawant1358]

technically speaking the velocity while running both the rounds was zero as the displacement was zero.

[@jacobpinard6880]

Prasad Sawant I love this comment.

[@HarshKumar-sz8xk]

Nice but he corrected that at 3:21 ;-)

[@uwerlmi6120]

Well you wouldn’t be running then..... youd be standing still

[@Dyas777]

Thank you! I thought I was dumb

[@j.f.fisher5318]

And even if you ran the first lap faster the average velocity of the two laps would be 2x the velocity of the first lap, since 2x0=0. Seriously every time he said velocity in this it's nails on a chalkboard to me. Speed, not velocity omg.

[@williambarnes5023]

You got the wrong answer for 3. :D The correct answer is 0. Lay down and have a nap. Don't go anywhere. Twice zero is still zero. You live at the starting line now.

[@v0yra]

but it has to be 2 times faster than v1

[@bella-rl2ti]

Lil Schnoze 2 times 0 is still 0

[@user-tr2dh4xx6u]

You also die at the starting line as you have just imprisoned yourself for an eternity for such a silly reason, you cannot stop now or all previous time spent is wasted, hopefully some kind stranger will come by and provide you with food daily and if lucky they will even put up some form of shelter around you. But can we truly call that living? Is being stuck in one spot for eternity truly worth the results? For some maybe but not me, i choose to live my life even if it means i am a failure.

[@manunavoni7666]

But you haven't done any laps, so it doesn't work

[@amadeusmphoto]

What if he walks it backwards and makes NEGATIVE time!?

[@MegaDuke1]

Appreciate you directly crotch shotting the camera. Love your stuff! Those two sentences are unrelated.

[@VaibhavTipnis]

I had the Force/tourque/radius explanation in my mind for the bike gearing problem. Which is a correct explanation, no doubt. But I really liked the purely kinematic explanation that you showed! Kinematic solutions are elegant!

[@BakrAli10]

For the people who are confused by the second riddle, just use numbers! Assume the following: - The lap distance "d" is 10 meters. d = 10 m - Your speed in the first lap "V1" is 1 meter per second. V1 = 1 m/s - You have to run the 2 laps at an average speed "Vavg" of 2 meters per second Vavg = 2V1 = 2×1 = 2 m/s Remember that V = d/t So: t1 = d/V1 = 10×1 = 10 s t(total) = 2d/Vavg = 2×10/2 = 10 s Notice that the time needed for both laps (10 s) equals the time that you spent in the first lap alone (10 s)!!! So basically, you have to complete the second lap in 0 seconds to be able to achieve Vavg = 2V1 !!! Which is impossible of course. Unless you can teleport..

[@bunny_0288]

But he didn't say anything about time... only speed. This is what's confusing to me. I listened to the riddle closely. He only said the speeds needed to average out to 2x the original speed. So if I walk at a pace of 1 mile an hour and then the second lap at a pace of 3 miles an hour, my average speed would be 2 miles an hour. There was zero mention of time in the original riddle.

[@Stubbari]

@@bunny_0288 _"So if I walk at a pace of 1 mile an hour and then the second lap at a pace of 3 miles an hour, my average speed would be 2 miles an hour."_ Of course not. Your average speed would be 1.5mph for the two laps.

[@bunny_0288]

@@Stubbari Your mean speed would be 2 mph. 1+3=4 4/2=2..... However, I now realize he wasn't asking for the mean speed which is why that isn't the correct answer. It was a poorly worded riddle in the original video that was misinterpreted by many people.

[@iartistdotme]

Love trying to figure it out. But - failed, miserably. 1 out of 4. but I think I actually won since I was really thinking and trying to figure it out - not a normal activity for 70 yo.

[@veritasium]

Wow - thank you for giving the riddles a shot! I think I got some of these wrong the first time I heard them.

[@everWonder]

Especially the bike riddle was tricky.

[@whyp5445]

Veritasium , this time it wasn't clear , concise and easy to understand . It did challenge my early beliefs and sort of intrigued my interest for rotational dynamics Actually , that ping pong ball , that's something I can't grab by books , It gave me a big BONER

[@TheReaverOfDarkness]

You may not have won, but you definitely one.

[@MmeHyraelle]

Getting something wrong, is also a victory, a victory of better understanding.

[@maxheadrom3088]

Nice video, cool riddles. That said, I have an argument about the flange: the flange is going forwards with the speed of the train: the part of the flange that goes backwards is not the same at all times so there's no part of the traind that is *always* going backwards - otherwise, there would not be much train left after a while.

[@MrDaraghkinch]

"... it does behave similar, and that's no coincidence; the mystery cylinder actually contains bees."

[@Legomastr365]

Steam locomotives also have a rod called an eccentric rod which helps "change gear" by increasing or decreasing the movement of the piston inside the cylinder. The rod always moves backwards because of how the piston works

[@RR67890]

But does it move backward in relation to the ground? Which was the question. I think not.

[@Guapter]

@@RR67890 you know, wheel flange either dont move backward relative to the ground. Question was wrong explained. One little area on flange which position on the wheel you need to change in your imagination to say it moves backward is not a part of the train.

[@justrecentlyi5444]

@@Guapter I think you've misunderstood the explanation. You seem to be referring to the contact point, where the wheel doesn't move with relation to the ground. However, with a train wheel, the flange is a larger, concentric circle that must match the rotational speed. The following image isn't perfect, but I think it can help get on the correct path to understanding: Imagine drawing a line from the center of the wheel, through the contact point with the rail and to the flange's edge. This line functions a bit like a lever with the pivot point being the contact point between the wheel and the rail. When you move the center of the wheel forward, the pivot point remains stationary and the point at the flange moves in the opposite direction to the center of the wheel.

[@HungryTacoBoy]

1 - The rod can't always move backwards. It would have to move forward as well. 2 - It would always need to be moving backwards with respect to the ground while the train is moving forwards, which isn't possible.

[@kurzackd]

that question about the rolling cylinder... Could be there's also a weighty metal sphere inside. That would also work! :)

[@harlbertmayerh7523]

3:52 why not just half the time??

[@Alistair]

(you'd actually want to divide the time by 3 but otherwise you're right, I've no idea how he missed that)

[@Juklitz282]

Just use v = d/t and you will see why not. Because it doesn´t work like that. Just imagine some virtual speed, for a good example. Let´s say, you made a lap in one sec and lap has one meter. So your speed for first lap is 1m/s, because v = 1/1. And you want to have 2m/s after second lap, still clear? And now think. You are counting average, technically you are making sum of distances divided by sum of times to be two times higher. But distance is always the same, so v = (1 + 1)/t. Looks good, right? But, now take a look on that t. Is it the same time? No, you need to add some time for making second round, correct? So, it would be 2 / (t + something). .. But.. only 2/1 would make a 2 as a result, hence .. what number you can add to 1 to make it still 1? Well, ..zero. But even light can´t make it so fast. Clear now?

[@harlbertmayerh7523]

Jukl wow your explanation Made me understood that thank youuuu very much where do you often learn this thing from I just want to know ,I want to become smart like you 😄

[@Juklitz282]

@@harlbertmayerh7523 Not sure if you want this really :D .. as far as I learned this physics lessons when I was 12 :D

[@harlbertmayerh7523]

Jukl wow!

[@sr7821]

At 4:10 , u can say, in a sense, that the condition for the riddle can be fulfilled if a person runs first lap with initial speed(v) v--->(lim) 0. So the condition will be fulfilled for any velocitu v2 with which we run the second lap

[@TimwiTerby]

The ping pong balls are irrelevant. The (lower-density) air inside them is what’s important. The jar half-filled with honey is close enough to be pretty much equivalent. I think it should count as a correct answer.

[@albinhansen97]

Sort of yeah, but the ping pong balls creates a vessel for the air which moves with the honey easier that just air, as it'll easier affect the position of the honey than the restricted air in the ping pong balls, although i agree, it should count as the correct answer, as it's has a veeeery similar effect, which would be hard to differentiate without seeing the content.

[@philb8242]

I feel like if our guess was 10w40 with hollowed out, sealed eggshells, it would still be wrong because the eggs are not shaped like spheres. While the ping pong balls offer more resistance to the fluid dynamics, a more viscous substance would yield an even more similar result. From the perspective of visual observation, indistinguishable!! I fart in your general direction on that one.

[@wilfdarr]

The ping-pong balls aren't irrelevant since the displace the honey in a more irregular shape. It is a very good approximation though.

[@thetruth45678]

@@wilfdarr You are wrong. The shape of the balls is irrelevant. Replace them with balls the same density as the honey. It's the liquid and the air that matters here.

[@wilfdarr]

@@thetruth45678 Well, since you went there, No you're wrong. The tennis balls don't simply displace the honey but displace some of the honey VERTICALLY which forces the C of G higher in the cylinder while maintaining the total weight of the system, which you could not do by just adjusting the honey/air ratio. This high C of G is what makes the movement so dramatic. Good approximation, but not the same. Maybe next time try words like 'I think', 'I can't see how that would be' or 'Why wouldn't X work just as well?' rather than 'You're Wrong'.

[@corbanpoultney3727]

Oh look. It's Dirk from Veristablium!!

[@ryanl8226]

You mean Duke from the Vatican

[@hijack69]

Sudzy Soap what's Veritasblium?

[@arvingasco7606]

Sudzy Soap is this supposed to be a variant of the buttercup cabbagepatch memes

[@corbanpoultney3727]

Alain Gasco no, listen to the Podcast "Hello Internet" It's Brady Haran of Numberfile fame, and CGP Grey, they call him that.

[@longpinkytoes]

it's Draco from Veritaserum!

[@ThatPyukumuku]

You actually can get your average to be 2V1 by running 3 times the speed but zig-zagging to reach the same time as the first lap

[@RedcXca]

not quite what running a lap means but sure xd

[@TylerDollarhide]

I'm still confused by the "answer" to that "riddle". Nowhere in the question does time come into play. If run 1 mph, then I run 3 mph, my average speed is 2 mph. Twice the speed of the first lap.

[@RedcXca]

@@TylerDollarhide nope, because then suppose the lap is 3 miles long, you ran a total of 3+3=6 miles in 1+3=4 hours. making your average velocity 6/4 or 1.5mph

[@kirksneckchop7873]

@@TylerDollarhide The average speed of the total journey = total distance / total time taken. Let d = circumference of a lap, and t = time it takes to do the first lap. Note that the average speed of the first lap is v = d/t. Now, the issue is that you MUST take t amount of time to run the first lap, then you need to run the second lap in whatever time is left (call it T). So, average speed of the total journey = 2*d / (t +T). But he is saying that you need to choose T so that 2*v1 = 2*d/t = 2*d/(t+T). But then T = 0. So you will need to "instantaneously" jump the last d distance. This means the speed of the second lap must be infinitely fast to spend no time covering it. Another way to see this problem is to draw a plot. Call the y-axis distance, and the x-axis time. If you draw a line from (0,0) to (t,d) (representing the first lap), then a line from (0,0) to (t, 2*d), you will find that the final side of that triangle goes vertical, leaving no additional time to get from d to 2*d. I don't know why he didn't draw the plot, it's much easier to see.

[@notmandy]

​@@TylerDollarhide Time did come into play. From what you said, 1 mph and 3 mph, the "miles per hour" part already gave you the time component of this problem. 1 and 3 does indeed work if the laps are independent of each other, because now you are confusing the average speed and mean speed. Average and mean are very similar things but absolutely not the same.

[@JakeRanney]

What if you don't run in the lane in the second lap? Like you can swerve and zigzag around so you end up taking the same amount of time to complete the circuit but you're still technically running at a higher speed?

[@crustyoldfart]

I consider the track problem to be a trick question. Your solution treats the two runs as one run with a slow half and faster half. Alternatively I, and I am sure many others thought of it as two separate runs in which case it is perfectly possible to find a solution without having to exceed the speed of light. This I suppose is due to the different perceptions between the pure analyst and the empiricist. The bike problem again depends on initial conditions, which were not specified. The compound vessel with its viscous liquid and variable geometry is only one of many different configurations which would all exhibit analogous behaviour. What this whole exercise illustrates very well is the importance of experiment as opposed to the ancient belief that real world problems can be resolved totally by the intellect. Aristotle certainly believed this and was accordingly guilty of passing on many erroneous explanations of real world phenomena [ example : the falling body problem ]. This is one of the reasons why physicists can be dangerous if given jobs better suited to engineers. An engineer is always ready to run a trial before committing to a final solution.

[@fiveoneecho]

I definitely thought the running around the track one was just a verbal typo that didn't get caught in editing. It would have been a lot more clear to say "the value of" instead of directly saying to compare speed and time.

[@daisy9152]

YES!! I said gearing needs to be low enough AND that the pedal will only pull back/bike move forward until the crank rotation causes the "acting" force vector to reduce with angle until equilibrium is reached. Then consider friction and the fact that the string has changed angle such that you are also pulling the bike downwards thereby slightly increasing this. The extra crank angle inflicted to pass static euilibrium (overcome friction) may further affect the second euilibrium crank angle that will result when skidding.

[@maorhamagniv2221]

You had me at YES!!

[@qwkutiub]

I've been wondering for some time what direction do cars in front of me throw up debris against my beloved Miata. 5:03 looks like the answer! What simulator is that?

[@Idiomatick]

Maybe Matlab? Its free

[@Ryukachoo]

2:30 damn, he cleans up quick tho

[@collincherubim2698]

I'm not buyin' the track riddle solution. 2d/t1 is the same as d/[(1/2)t1]. It's possible to run the same distance in half the amount of time. There's no need to "weight" the velocities in the average. Run the first lap in time t1, run the second lap in time one-third of t1. I think this can be shown pretty easily on a position vs time graph. You'll have one slope m1 for the first lap from y=0, t=0 to y=d, t=t1, then triple the slope between y=d, t=t1 and y=2d, t=(4/3)t1 for a slope of m2 The average of these two intervals. The average of these slopes will give a velocity twice as large (steep) as that of the initial interval.

[@Pkmn20]

I thought that you need to plot a velocity-time graph to find the average velocity? it should look like two bars next to each other where the height = the gradient from your graph

[@Jacek2048]

This and the other video were oddly some of the most exciting videos I've seen in a long time :D

[@alaricross567]

For the train riddle, I have a question on what you're referencing as the ground. If you mean the top of the track then yes I agree but if mean the ground the track is on and have the track be exterior to the ground then no actual part go backwards and the entire train is moving faster than the wheels are spinning. So my question is, do you consider the man made tracks to be ground?

[@XDevil127]

I don't know if I understand your question correctly, but if the track is not moving with respect to the ground it is on, then a velocity relative to the track is the same as a velocity relative to the ground. It is just a Galilean transformation of the frame of reference. In this sense, everything that has a relative velocity of zero to the ground can physically be considered as equal to the ground, in this case also a tree, a house or mountain etc.

[@bananaforscale1283]

It doesn't matter because tracks don't move relatively to the ground.

[@HungryTacoBoy]

🤔🤨

[@grdprojekt]

Yes

[@williamy6917]

Isn't Veritaseum Australian, it's 11:31p.m. here.

[@40thCenturyTrolls]

Does he sound Australian? hint: he doesn't

[@jaysonsk]

he was based in sydney the last time i checked

[@MidnightAssass1n]

William Y he was born in Canada but moved to Australia early on in his life

[@itrebor8]

He lived in Australia, however is most likely in Canada right now.

[@pelledanasten1615]

He is Canadian.

[@Frieml]

The equation at 3:55 should have t1+t2 in the denominator. You just wrote an expression for the average speed you were looking for without adding the second time component. v1 = d/t1 v2 = d/t2 v3 = 1/2[(d1/t1)+(d2/t2)] //v3 as average speed now put in 2*v1 for v3 2(d/t1) = 1/2 [(d1/t1)+(d2/t2)] 4(d/t1) = (d1/t1)+(d2/t2) 3(d/t1) = d2/t2 3*v1 = v2

[@ilmanowar]

Actually, he is really unclear explaining the math behind. 1)v1 = d/t1 2)v2 = d/t2 3)v3(average speed by definition)=2d/(t1+t2) Take in mind that v3=1/2(v1+v2) is the average speed if you consider speeds with the same time slot and different space (that is the contrary of hypotheses 1 and 2). The request is having v3=2v1 then: 2d/(t1+t2)=2d/(t1) That equation admits only the real solution t2=0, that implies non-real v2.

[@Frieml]

I was just writing an answer, when the logic behind v3=2d/(t1+t2) hit me like lightning. Your explanation with the same time slot and different space did it for me once i really thought about it. Thank you.

[@cybersteel8]

I can't get my head around a better way to ask the second riddle. The wording really made me want to just answer 3V1 but I can't think of a better way to word it. If I were to propose this riddle to a friend, I know full well it would spark an argument about how averages/means are calculated and how those words are defined. I think, instead of asking about speed, it's better to ask it in the context of time. So maybe something like this: "Let's say it takes you some time to run around a track. How long would it take you to run a second lap so that your average speed is doubled?" This is the best I've got, because the riddle is not asking for speed, it is asking specifically for time. I think this better emphasizes the meaning of the riddle without immediately thinking about just running three times faster.

[@cybersteel8]

Okay so I tested this on people around me, it encouraged them to think about trying to travel so fast that the average time for each lap is halved, meaning twice the distance in the same amount of time as the first lap, so the second lap has to be done in zero time, and is thus impossible.

[@Mooseknockerz]

Train: Any gear/motor/engine that is rotating faster than the wheels involved in speed reduction/torque increase...

[@robertobalderas1492]

I'm confused on the running one. Why wouldn't average velocity be divided by the total amount of time? Why is it just t1 and not t1+t2

[@dfghjkuytr]

Easier with numbers- Assume the track is 100 m. Assume the first lap is run at 1m/s so takes 100 secs. Running 2 laps is 200m and the average speed has to be twice the first, so 2m/s. But 200m at 2m/s also takes 100secs. So the second 100m must take zero time, therefore infinitly fast.

[@karankaran1997]

It is t1+t2, but his point is that for the avg velocity to equal 2*v_1, t2=0 thats why he wrote only t1.

[@waikhaylim6180]

@@dfghjkuytr thanks for explaining!!!! totally did got it when you explain it that way thanks!!

[@TheMmex]

@@dfghjkuytr maybe my english isnt good enough. i still dont understand the trick. is there a difference between velocity and speed?

[@dfghjkuytr]

YES if you are in school, but most people use velocity and speed to mean the same thing. (If you do physics or maths, the fact that velocity is a vector which has a direction is the difference.) In the video he means the average SPEED, but uses v in the equation.

[@aravindnayani221]

Riddle 2: since distance can’t be altered, run the same distance in half the time.

[@izzojoseph2]

Aravind Nayani ~ sorry but that’s bad math. That would mean you ran the second lap in half the time not the combined velocity being only twice the speed. It’s a trick question because no matter what speed you run the second lap, the first lap is always a factor and would bump the average ever so slightly above 2v. F’d up question. Didn’t like it.

[@eysoare5801]

Then run it in a third of the time, making V2 3 time V1 with an average of 2V1

[@leanderstuder6815]

youre only allowed to run 2 laps :/

[@Alistair]

@@izzojoseph2 I don't understand what problem everyone has with this question. The True Geeg Lord is correct. If you run the first lap at say 2mph and then the second lap at 6mph, the average will be 4mph, which is exactly 2x the first lap. It seems incredibly simple so I've no idea why people are talking about changing the distance etc

[@izzojoseph2]

Alistair Stewart ~ right. But now let’s look at it. Say the lap is 1 mile. You run 5mph and do it in 12 minutes then run 15 mph and do the second lap in 4 minutes12+4 =16 minutes. That’s only 7.5 miles an hour. Shoot. (Remember total of 2 miles) First lap at 5mph = 12 minutes Second lap at 60 mph = 1 minute Total time 13 minutes = 9.25 mph ave. You’ll get closer but never there.

[@gitban]

3:45, you can run the second lap in half the time and that would give you d/0.5t1 which would make V2=3V1 and Vavg=2V1. Am I missing something here?

[@dermacon5172]

Exactly what i was thinking.

[@samthehoffman]

I'm surprised I had to scroll this far to find someone else who felt the same

[@edwardashworth8701]

The answer you have given is the average of two separate velocities, but you have forgotten they have different denominators (the laps are taking different times to run). With the equation for velocity (distance / time) we know that the distance is the same for both laps (i.e. 2d). Therefore to make this double the speed of lap 1 you need to keep the denominator the same i.e. Lap 1 = d/t so 2d/t can only be double the speed of the 2nd lap if no additional time is added into the equation. That is why adding in the speed of light (and faster) will always add some time that will make it just under double the speed of the first lap alone.

[@NewNecro]

Vavg is using V1 as reference, so in order to complete the challenge you have to run *both* races within *t1* , amount of time that is only enough to do the first race. It's just a pedantic trick question.

[@gitban]

Okay, so let me try to understand it in a different way. I run first lap at 5 KMpH and second lap at 15 KMpH. What's the average speed with which I completed one lap? If the answer is not 10 KMpH then please let me know what it is.

[@AbudBakri]

So Veritasium is a magician now?

[@MrMisanthrope_]

magic is science we yet to understand

[@whitelady1063]

Dr.StickFigure yes my replacement for cgp grey

[@whitelady1063]

magic is just a trick on our perception

[@yoruagi]

Dr.StickFigure Doesnt look like magic at all tho

[@joshuakim4493]

... you could almost say he's now a physic-ian now. :P

[@shantanukulkarni007]

I was the most correct. Coz I didnt answer any question so none of my answers were wrong

[@overwrite_oversweet]

Well, you _wern't_ wrong.

[@NoConsequenc3]

Not answering is a 0 A 0 is a failing grade Congrats on not even trying

[@shantanukulkarni007]

I was not giving a test. Was I? And there was no reward in giving a correct answer so you get no bonus whereas giving a wrong answer will make you wrong. So everyone who tried got some negatives whereas I stayed at 0. So as you see, being at 0 was highest score here

[@princejoogie]

shantanu kulkarni you're right when you said that there would be no reward for getting the right answer, but how would you say that there would also be a loss when giving the wrong answer? hence, trying to answer or not trying to; or giving the right answer or wrong answer would still remain at score 0.

[@mrluwid172]

You're incorrect, if you never answered any of the questions means you're 4/4 wrong. Now, the percentage of someone trying to answer a question, just by sheer luck would better you. The outcome is, you're more incorrect (on a percentage basis) than someone who tried to answer and got them all wrong themselves. Just saying :)

[@pb4012]

Riddle 2 is exactly why it's always better to push yourself harder running up hills in cross-country at the cost of being a little slower on the flat/downhill sections because your average speed will be higher. Keeping your pace as constant as possible will get the fastest times.

[@DrewLevitt]

Or, as I've heard said in cycling, "the key to going fast is to not go slow." This is actually especially true in cycling but for aerodynamic reasons: the power required to overcome drag scales with the CUBE of velocity, so high-power efforts get you much more extra speed on climbs, when you would be going slower anyway, than on flats or descents when you are already moving quickly. That, plus conserving power by hiding behind other riders as much as possible until you can drop them at the end, is the essence of bike racing strategy.

[@lilacdoe7945]

For some reason question 2 was answered fourth. I am using the original numbering. 1. Wrong, thought it would be a weighted pendulum 2. Wrong, assumed it would work like #4 due to the chain driving the wheels, thus moving forwards 0.25 pedal rotations 3. Misleading question or incorrect solution by veritasium 4. Correct V = d/t Assuming we walk 1 lap = 1d over 1mins V1 = 1 L/m To make the avg velocity = 2V1 V2 = 3 L/m Vavg = 4L / 2m = 2 L/m Not sure why Veritasium is saying it is impossible to increase the average velocity by 100% with 0.5d happening at one speed and 0.5d happening at a different speed.

[@lilacdoe7945]

@azalla okay, that would explain his answer, but confirms it was a highly-misleading poorly worded question. He did not specify Time (total) had to remain constant while T1 would equal all of the total time.

[@thethoughtmaster]

Number 2 was a word trick. I made a trick question like that in the 1980's.

[@purge_bot2338]

@ Don't worry man, I thought the same thing for a while. Even did the math on paper and everything. The mistake you are making is the same mistake that I made; while it is possible to reach an average velocity of 2V1, you have to run 3 more laps after the first lap to reach that average velocity. This is evident in your math, where you have to run 4km in 2 minutes to reach that average velocity. (first lap is 1km in 1 minute, second "lap" is 3km in 1 minute) However, in the question, you are only allowed to run 2 laps. If each lap is 1km, then you are only allowed to run 2km total. It's impossible to reach an overall average velocity of 2V1 when you can only run 2 laps. You have to be able to run 4 laps (total distance 4km assuming 1km per lap) to reach the desired average velocity, which is prohibited by the question.

[@AnhThuNguyen-zz2hm]

Run 1 lap in 6 minutes. Then run lap 2 in (:$-'kcowkxm

[@mattj2389]

@@AnhThuNguyen-zz2hm oh, that clears it up.

[@nazimakhatoon8406]

@@purge_bot2338 But why take distance into account and not time. Same dist and shorter time = Greater velocity

[@Juklitz282]

@@nazimakhatoon8406 time is in account, but is a result of formula. So, however you are modifying speed, you have still the same distance. Now, to be still in the formula, whenever you are raising speed, you are at the same moment decreasing the time and vice-versa. Point is, that if you are counting average from TWO numbers, you are basically dividing by 2 the total distance and as your speed is result of distance divided by time, you always need to spend some time on the track, hence you always need to do t1 + t2. So, in formula d1+d2 / t1+t2, where d1+d2 = 2*d. And now, if you would need to have 2 as a result (v=d/t), you would need to have exactly t1+t2 = t1. And once again, that´s not possible, because t2 is always > 0, in a fact, it´s possible to make it only if you make 2nd round in exactly 0 time.

[@username7735]

I'm absolutely appalled at the notion of ruining perfectly good honey with ping pong balls. :(

[@FriedAudio]

I don't know, honey really isn't that bad with ping pong balls. BUT, it IS horrid with used soccer balls...

[@crocsonletsgo9665]

i am appalled that the ping pong balls have honey all over them! :(

[@Markus-8Muireg]

You consider your food ruined pretty fast

[@lurkkker]

I’m glad I didn’t bother trying the math on the running one

[@MitchBurns]

I didn’t think about the riddles for long, but the track one seemed simple enough so I thought about it for about 2 minutes and figured it out. Initially I thought easy go 3 times as fast, but then realized quickly that was wrong. I realized that it’s a weighted average and the faster you run the less the weighting. I tried to just intuit what speed it would take but couldn’t easily figure it out since to increase the value of the average you have to go faster, but that lowers the weighting of the part that fixes the problem. To figure it out I did exactly what you said and realized that you would have to run countable infinity times faster the second lap than you did the first lap in order to make the average speed of both laps equal to the speed of the first lap. The only way I can think to “cheat” this is to on the first lap just not do it and say it takes forever or infinite time, then you can take the second lap at literally any finite speed and pull it off, although this does depend a lot on how you are defining 0 and infinity.

[@Morgalucci]

I see the error of my ways, I was calculating the average speed per lap, not the total speed. Put simpler (I think his phrasing was confusing): 0 = overall 1 = first lap d/t1 = V1 2d/t0 = 2V1 => t0 = t1 => t2 = 0 You can't run a lap in 0 seconds.

[@richardpetek712]

Actually it was well phrased, I got it right away, but yes, it may have sounded as a trick question.

[@muratceylan9611]

Would make more sense if he said "Weighted Average Speed". Arithmetic average can easily become 2V if V2 = 3V.

[@sangeetsarang7136]

Average speed means total distance dividided by total time.

[@sangeetsarang7136]

and it is quite obvious

[@sangeetsarang7136]

suppose you travel in train from one city to another which are 500km apart and the train takes you 5 hours in total then what will be the average speed of train according to you ? (Definitely the train would not be running at 100kmph all the time, sometimes it may move with higher speed and some times it may move with lower speed, but what matters to you to get average speed is the total time taken and total distance travelled)

[@timm8998]

What are you talking about lol :P We all know what average speed is.

[@falcon3792]

Gotta love having "depends on the gear ratio" in your mind going into this video

[@billtotman]

Which didn’t make them “more correct” - it only showed that they understood why they were correct.

[@HeroineK]

The track riddle can be done! You gave us an object to run around, not a distance. Assuming the track is a standard 400m, if you spend your second lap running in a 5.2m wide x 2m long zig-zag, you could effectively run 1200m on your second lap, adding making it take just as long to run thrice as fast, equating to a 2v average.

[@oldnickus]

Referring to the track problem : When you ask for average speed why does time become a part of it?? It was not part of the question. So first round 1 km/h second round 3 km/h and you get an average of 2 km/h

[@nineball039]

You answered your own question using units of time (hours) in your query. Speed = distance / time.

[@oldnickus]

@@nineball039 the question is about average speed that time is inside the speed=distance/time nothing is said about another Faktor "how much time" so the question becomes unanswerable first because of the "hidden" Faktor and second because of "the Faktor"

[@nineball039]

@@oldnickus - I have no idea what you mean. (what is a Faktor?)

[@oldnickus]

@@nineball039 www.google.com/search?q=what+is+a+factor&oq=what+is+a+factor&gs_l=mobile-heirloom-hp.12...0.0.1.2751.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c..34.mobile-heirloom-hp..0.17.1198.3sMpGc7gvg0

[@nineball039]

@@oldnickus - Next time, try the correct spelling and capitalization. I really had no idea what "Faktor" meant. The rest of your comment is equally nonsensical. Start with d=vt. (Or dx/dt if you ever took basic calculus).

[@lucasmonta1]

someone explain me N°2, why isn't it possible? I understood the situation with needing double the distance, but, wouldn't it be the same to run the same distance in half the time? I can't make sense of his answer :/

[@nacho74]

lucasmonta1 The same distance in half the time would be the same velocity

[@alext9067]

I don't get it either. I think they're lying. Oh...they're saying that your total average speed is twice that of your first lap. Your average is somewhere in between the two. It's a word thing. They lied.

[@MartinPoulter]

No lying or wordplay is involved. It was a clearly stated problem, whose solution is easy to work out, and that's why so many people did work it out.

[@fredredfredred]

Okay, so average speed means the total distance divided by the time. So if the track is 400 meters long, and you run the first lap in one minute, that makes your average speed 400m/1min., or 400m/min. So to get twice that average speed after your next lap, you would need to run 800m (the distance of two 400m laps) in... well, in one minute. The same amount of time. Which is impossible. This is because t represents the total time. So 1/2 t doesn't mean you run the second lap in half the time, it would mean somehow you ran so fast, that you made your time for the first lap -- the one you already ran -- cut in half. Also, this goes against the question, because we wouldn't have a second lap. The question asks how fast a second lap would have to be in order for the average speed of the TWO laps together to be twice the average speed of the first lap. But if we only have d instead of 2d, it means we didn't run a second lap. It would mean, instead, that we ran another, separate lap in half the time--which would have double the average speed, but it wouldn't be a second lap that doubles the average speed of the two laps together. Even if you run at lightspeed, he says, it's impossible because there will still be a fraction of a fraction of a second added on to the time. For example, running the 400m lap at 299 792 458 m/s (lightspeed), you will run the second lap in 0.0000000222376063min, making your average speed 800m/1.0000000222376063min., which will be 799.99998221 just the tiniest bit smaller than 2V (which is 800).

[@lucasmonta1]

nacho73 what? given v1=d1/t1, then v2=d1/(0.5*t1)=2*(d1/t1)=2*v1

[@MistrBandit]

If you are running a circular track, your average velocity would be zero for any lap, since the first and second half vectors would cancel each other out. Thus to get an average of 2 times zero would mean that you could literally run the second lap at any speed slower or faster or even the same as the first lap and still get an average that is twice the first lap. Anything times 0=0, including 2.

[@steves9388]

Hence the annotated correction from velocity to speed.

[@FriedrichHerschel]

@@steves9388 Sorry, but if he's too "dumb" to present a riddle hinging on semantics to "fool" the audience in a proper way (it's a video, he can edit stuff and not just make a split second text overlay), I am perfectly fine with anybody giving "not intended" solutions.

[@clipsonque]

Great video, but I believe it is actually the taper on the train wheel surfaces (which at not 90 degrees) that keep the train centered in the track, not the safety lip. The lip is just a backup safety measure.

[@carultch]

If the flanges did come in to contact, you'd hear awful screeching noises. The flanges do keep a model train on the track, but that's just because the speeds and accelerations are so slow that the screeching noises go unnoticed, and most likely, it isn't worth the effort to machine exact scale models of a real train wheel.

[@hunterlehman3056]

The answer to the running riddle seems more predicated on language than actual science

[@longpinkytoes]

it can run around the track at V1... it can even run lap two so the average is 2x V1... BUT CAN IT RUN CRYSIS? xD

[@AbudBakri]

More like Wizardium - An Element of Magic.

[@mr.sloth.]

nice name to a channel tho

[@joshuakim4493]

don't give derek any more ideas... he has 3 channels now... we don't need a 4th one, though Wizardium would be interesting lol.

[@MicheleKolodi]

I was waiting for more in depth explanation of N3, something about difference between speed and velocity and the fact that the track is circular...

[@RolandsSh]

I find it very easy to understand if you simply write it out: v₁ = s₁/t₁ 2v₁ = 2s₁/t₁ vₐ = (s₁+s₂)/(t₁+t₂) = 2s₁/(t₁+t₂) If vₐ = 2v₁, then 2s₁/(t₁+t₂) = 2s₁/t₁ From that we get that t₁+t₂ = t₁ which means that t₂ = 0

[@MicheleKolodi]

I did similar calculations in a comment to previous video (do not know how to link it here). To me this riddle was the most interesting, so I just pointed that there could be more fun to explain all the weird parts of it.

[@RolandsSh]

Distance Is it not how it is denoted everywhere in the world? I didn't give it much thought and I'm not sure why it's used. I think it was from Greek or Latin, but I'm not so sure.

[@aoibacon8308]

The one about the track race and velocity isnt impossible, you would just have to go three times as fast: (v1+v2)/2 = 2v1 which means that v2= 2v1 however you say that it would be impossible because of the time? however if we substitute the v for the d/t in the equation we get (d/t1 + d/t2) / 2 = 2(d/t1) where d is always the same because the track is always the same length, therefore (d/t1 + d/t2) = 4(d/t1) d/t2 = 3d/t1 this means that the second velocity (v2) would have to be fast enough to run three times the track in the same amount of time, ergo three times as fast (run the track in a third of the time) which is absolutely doable if you run the first lap very very slowly, that way you would just have to triple your spee for the second lap. lol math its not that the first veolicty "has more time" therefore weighs more in the equation than the second velocity, because velocity is already a ratio which divides a value by the time taken to find the speed per second

[@blargo]

Track shape doesn't matter. It just comes down to the definition of average speed. It's simply total distance traveled divided by total time taken. That's it. Once you've traveled a set amount, you've established an average speed for that first lap. It's then impossible to travel double the distance and produce an overall average speed that's twice that of the first lap.

[@nicholasdavis9529]

I don’t know if you answer late questions but I’m still kind of confused on the bicycle one. Basically I think I have an explanation but i’m not sure and wanted to verify. My understanding: When pushing on the pedal in a clockwise motion the bike “wants to go forward” because of the way the gears are set up. however the instant the bike tries to go forward it can’t, this is because the pedal would have to move out of socket for it to move back as the bike moves forward. When this happens the pedal starts move in what seems to be the opposite direction you are pulling. However when riding a bike you always doing a forward motion if you take the circle the pedal rotates around and flatten it out. When viewing it as a circle however it looks as though the top 180 degrees (or pi radians, however you flow) moves forward and the bottom 180 moves back. And so when pulling on the string and moving the bike backwards, the circle is essentially flipped in that the bottom half appears to move forward and the top half back however again when thinking of the circle as a flat line it is a constant backwards movement.

[@nicholasdavis9529]

Sorry if it seems all over the place, I kind of just typed it out on the spot

[@pallav5833]

I just saw you on Bill Nye's show and freaked out a bit...