In my eternal wisdom I miss-quoted the 1200 XE travel at 200mm. The travel is actually 250mm 🙃
@actstuntcam3 жыл бұрын
Was going to correct you :) The XC has 200mm (But the XC sucks).
@stonethecrows53343 жыл бұрын
The forks are SHOWA
@gustavmeyrink_2.03 жыл бұрын
Sadly Triumph's reliability is practically non-existent since they shifted all production to Thailand.
@MrKdr5003 жыл бұрын
@@gustavmeyrink_2.0 Australian delivered bikes have been from the thai plant for over 10yrs, no issues with them....
@thelittlesignpost3 жыл бұрын
@@gustavmeyrink_2.0 and that is exactly where I live! I never buy Thai parts where I can buy Japanese, or Swedish engineered products. Ford cars are continually problematic because they are made here and I own one!!
@algee82283 жыл бұрын
Cool! Now if Honda would only lock a CRF450Rl and a CB500X in a dark room together for a night and then 9 months later...
@deadcaptainjames60453 жыл бұрын
I want a CRF450RL Rally soo bad!!!!!
@fredtracy39312 жыл бұрын
That bike already exists, it's called the Benelli Leoncino 500 Trail.
@algee82282 жыл бұрын
@@fredtracy3931 the only trail that thing looks capable of is the road to Starbucks!!
@fredtracy39312 жыл бұрын
@@algee8228 and what do you ride?
@algee82282 жыл бұрын
@@fredtracy3931 KTM 250EXCF
@agustincuevae3 жыл бұрын
The Fantic Caballero Rally is such a fun machine, explosive motor, low weight in the category, killer looks, very capable suspension, low maintenance. I been rocking 9000 kilometers down here in the Andes mountains of Ecuador really rough terrain and high altitudes. It seems very reliable to me, considering the bmw 850 and Ktms 790 motors are also made in China. So I don’t think is as a problem nowadays. I’m even training on a hard scramble track with lots of jumps and mud so when the pandemics over I will try myself and the motorcycle in the national rally raid season(dual sport adventure category), I will keep you posted on the that and how it goes. All my friend on all kind of rally bikes ktm 690, 790, Teneres, Africa’s and even Xr’s or Dr’s says that I have really good chances the fantic is a rocket Thank you for include this real scramblers in the off road community we often get forgotten. But at the same time is fun to surprise some folks on “dirt bikes” in really hard and inaccessible places some time even passing them by, leaving them thinking a road bike just past me? 🤔on this really treaky river bed? haha. Sorry for my English is not my native language Long time subscriber form Ecuador. If you want to check my Fantic Rally adventures look at Instagram for: @agustincueva
@chroniclesofsolid3 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the info and good luck on the rally 👍
@MrKdr5003 жыл бұрын
KTM's 790 engine is made in Austria, CFmoto are going to build a 750cc variant of that motor for their own bike.....where do people get all this misinformation???
@agustincuevae3 жыл бұрын
@@MrKdr500 IT use to, not any more (Philippines and China now) they are focus only on the 1290 motor and their dirtbikes. A quick googling will solve your misunderstanding
@agustincuevae3 жыл бұрын
@@MrKdr500 why you have to be derogatory at the end of your comment? No need to
@randersson36723 жыл бұрын
Each to his own, I think it's a POS...with cool looks, thats it. If I comp it with my CRF250L and KTM 690....it's not in the same league as either of them.
@TimRHillard Жыл бұрын
The resurgence of triumph since the 90's has been really impressive. Every bike in their line is a winner, they are reliable, fun, have character and are priced right, at least here in the USA. I have owned a few of their bikes including a 2000 Daytona 955i, a street triple from the same time and a 955 tiger. That engine was really great, and sounded so sweet! I am thinking about a tiger 900 rally pro as my next bike. If I can get the right price, I will buy it! Usually they are nit too bad on insurance as well, at least thru usaa for an old rider.
@lifeofascrambler2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I found the biggest benefit of the scrambler is being able to ride twisties on the way to some dirt, and rip it up then ride home in (relative) comfort. Also, when I say rip it up I mean jumping, sliding and getting the wheel up! So much fun, and good to see people recognsing this as a bike that does it all, and you can look good doing it!
@TimRHillard Жыл бұрын
right on!
@hassansidibe52083 жыл бұрын
I was so much into big adventure bikes but since coming across scramblers I've changed my mind totally..my favorite scrambler's are BMW R NINI T GS AND DUCATI SLED
@MrRourk2 жыл бұрын
Have you looked at the KTM 390?
@michaelrodrigues81423 жыл бұрын
I really like that Caballero 500 Rally. Too bad they're not available in the United States.
@Angel-Pizzaeater3 жыл бұрын
Just buy the hornet 250 mb motos
@randersson36723 жыл бұрын
I had high hopes...until I tested on, a very low quality bike, sadly.
@willyd-adv3 жыл бұрын
Ducati Desert Sled is an amazing adv cafe race bike, absolutely amazing to ride. The Fasthouse team even won the Mint 400 on it. If the crf300 wasn't coming out I would be buying the DS
@gustavmeyrink_2.03 жыл бұрын
That is not a cafe racer by any stretch of the imagination. A cafe racer is built to go fast on tarmac with clip ons and the foot pegs moved back, either naked or with a bikini fairing. The '75 Ducati 750SS is a near perfect example of a cafe racer. Would look good outside the Ace Cafe, the spiritual home of cafe racers.
@michaeljohnson29223 жыл бұрын
I had a CRF250L and man let me tell you, the most uncomfortable bike I’ve ever owned. I bought it new and sold it 9 months later.
@frankpinion4937 Жыл бұрын
The CRF300 is a toy in comparison to the desert sled. Not in the same league at all. Look at the power output & torque figures. Also the CRF is a high revving single so will have a much shorter engine life as 1 cylinder is doing all the work & it revs quite high with dohc. ALso the desert sled has the 903cc L twin with 1 cylinder lying flat. If you've ridden one the centre of gravity is low so the balance is very good & feel lighter than what they are especially the standard scrambler. Even though the Honda is a single cylinder it has the same number of valves & engine weigh up high being an upright single. Comfort & stability on the road getting to your fun place-honda rubbish-in fact most people I've spoken to trailer them to where they are going because they can't be arsed riding the gutless thing on the road. I've done some big trips on the scrambler classic & very smooth & comfortable on the road & the new icon is even better. They have a new scrambler coming out this year which is another 5 kg lighter, with throttle by wire & rider modes.
@iangriffiths99303 жыл бұрын
I’ve not ridden the Fantic but I have had a sit on one and I can tell you it’s real nice! Quality looks fantastic. The very few UK reviews are very positive.
@adamzadro82163 жыл бұрын
love em all!! But yes you need deep pockets for parts and servicing. I had a Ducati scrambler 2015 model (before the desert sled was released). It wasn't anywhere near as capable as the sled but awesome fun on dirt roads and easy fire trails. BUT I was so bloody worried about scratching the paintwork and getting stone chips hahahaha. If money was no boundary I'd probably have the desert sled, that Ducati sound and styling is awesome! Another great video Solid.
@jimmyjoe1871 Жыл бұрын
Love my Desert Sled. Superb all around bike. Puts a smile on my face every time I get on it.
@malikknows35103 жыл бұрын
Agree completely on cruise control. One reason I chose an Africa Twin over the Triumph Scrambler was luggage. Can't mount anything on the tailpipe side. That's a drawback.
@lawdayl3 жыл бұрын
There's a guy makes pannier racks for that side on fb
@stevenkorezelidis8042 жыл бұрын
I’ve solved that issue and at the same time created an awesome looking and sounding scrambler, so my 1200xe now sports twin reverse cone as per my previous bike, my 1200 Thruxton R and so my adventures have already kicked off over a year ago
@stopper900042 жыл бұрын
I have Mosko 80ltrs over mine with a couple of heat shields. A little googling will reveal several other solutions.
@zakkyummms3 жыл бұрын
The Beneli has a fully exposed radiator and external oil filter. Definitely requires some mods to rock it off road.
@jbeezostl Жыл бұрын
And 5.7 inches of ground clearance
@johnktm9503 жыл бұрын
If only Fantic could do a deal with KTM, the 690 motor in the Caballero would be a winner!
@chriskennedy30183 жыл бұрын
I had a chance to actually take a scrambler 1200 off road and was surprised at how much it felt like a giant dirt bike. Super fun to ride
@lastsonofkrypton362 жыл бұрын
It's just too big of an engine for a scrambler in my opinion. I wish it were a 600
@chriskennedy30182 жыл бұрын
@@lastsonofkrypton36 it would be nice to see it in the 6-800cc range
@dragon2910003 жыл бұрын
Ducati Desert Sled would be my pick ✌
@GrimYak3 жыл бұрын
Leoncino owner here and after a year of owning it I have only positive things to say about it. Reliable and simply fun to ride. Next up, looking to buy the RE Int 650....
@stevenkorezelidis8042 жыл бұрын
Right on buddy you’ve hit the nail on the head with that 1200 XE dry it’s abou 210kg yes portly but soooooo much lighter that’s any other 1200 dirt oriented bike like ever!
@petewebb51493 жыл бұрын
The whole way through I was thinking, yeah some of these pretty scramblers are going to cost a lot to fix the cosmetic damage when the owner throws them down hard on a gravel road. Thankfully at the end you mentioned this. Endo my WR on a hill. Just jump back on again and Braaap. Endo Triumph scrambler and call your insurance assessor: it will be a write off.
@agustincuevae3 жыл бұрын
If you got the money I don't see it as a problem
@petewebb51493 жыл бұрын
@@agustincuevae if you have the cash enjoy the crash! :-)
@stopper900042 жыл бұрын
The triumphs not competing with light dual sports...their compared to GS s and KTM adv bikes.
@petewebb51492 жыл бұрын
@@stopper90004 same result comparing it to different bikes that are far more crashworthy. Duh!
@wayneh87673 жыл бұрын
Saturday with Solid! That's how I like to start the day! That Triumph is really cool.
@chroniclesofsolid3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Wayne 👍
@LooxJJ Жыл бұрын
When you mention heritage: Scramblers are all originally Japanese bikes of 1960s in California desert. Even though some may desperately argue that “scrambling” was originated in England with competition trials of 1920s, it really did not take off due to popularity of grand prix style of racing and introduction of dirt bike. Once Japanese motorcycles such as Honda and Suzuki were introduced to the US, it opened the door for “Scrambler” - as parts and style of the bikes suited to hybrid off road venture was now readily available to the general public at a very reasonable cost. In 1962, first of Mojave run was organized in California in La Paz, and the rest was history. So, when it comes to Scrambler - the original heritage goes to Suzuki and Honda.
@eddiex723 жыл бұрын
I have the XC and I've taken a couple of trips already. 1300 miles in one trip over 3 days and the Cruise control really helped out.
@Jmort933 жыл бұрын
Do you ever wish you went with the XE? I test ride an XC and loved it.
@eddiex723 жыл бұрын
@@Jmort93 no a single regret. Didn’t need the extra clearance. I think the distance between how off-road worthy each one is, is overblown. The XC is very capable on and off road. At 5’ 10” the lower seat height brings confidence and balance. Not a single regret. ✌🏼
@Jmort933 жыл бұрын
@@eddiex72 that helps a ton, thanks. I felt that the XE’s potential would far exceed my ability. Plus the lower seat height seems to me to be a good thing on trails with deep ruts
@lawdayl2 жыл бұрын
Go the xc, still brilliant on trails but far superior on twisty roads.
@cow77cow2 ай бұрын
I riding a Royal Enfield scram 411. Not really powerful but has good torque, give enough fun every time. Cheap to buy, cheap to run, if I drop it no cry.
@jasondunn88943 жыл бұрын
Some interesting options there Solid. Didn’t think the Triumph would would be that great until I saw Steve Kamrad competing in rallies with his. Great vid as always👍
@chroniclesofsolid3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Jason, a few mad riders used them on the Baja 1000 :)
@rbrADV2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I would argue that the best "'scramblers" are the lighter choices. We have been fed the myth that an "ADV bike" needs 800,1000, or 1200cc's. Also, since a "scrambler" is first a fun road bike that has dirt capabilities, I would add the CSC Motorcycles RX4 to the list. 450cc, tubeless wire wheels, ABS, full windshield, TFT dash, and many luggage options. Best of all = $5,000 retail!
@AjarnSpencerАй бұрын
about the quality components of the Benelli; I was worried myself, living in Thailand a lot of bikes are assembled here as well, which isn’t very competence inspiring. But I did buy a Benelli in my stable of 13 big bikes and I was really surprised because it was cheaper than a Royal Enfield, but the quality of the components was double. They’re actually amazing bikes. The brakes are Brembo, but they put the Benelli brand on them to save money and cut corners like that without losing quality but dropping the costs so they can sell more for less. They’re actually a very recommendable bike and very surprising. Everybody I know who bought one, including myself was extremely satisfied. I paid about 4000 pounds for an almost new TRKX 500 cc adventure bike they’re more expensive here because we have 30% tax, and was extremely surprised because I have a Royal Enfield adventure bike the Himalayan, and it cost me more, but it’s already rusting after a year whereas the Benelli has 20,000 km on it and still feels like a brand new bike. And it feels like quality, and it came with all three panniers in aluminum with the baggage racks and engine guard with six halogen lights. And a windscreen. Amazing bikes for the price and I would say the best quality and the most sensible bike. Anybody could buy for affordability usability and high-quality considering the price. Definitely OK regardless of the Chinese components which are actually better quality than many western components. And even Harley, Davidson and Ducati and triumph, have Chinese components, mostly these days so I don’t know what everybody’s worried about.
@lukerabin50793 жыл бұрын
Given the original version of this bike (trumpy) invented the whole idea of enduro riding, it deserves it’s place on the list, for sure. As for being an old bloke with a position on cruise control, I say bring it on! I’m old enough that I know that 6-8 hours on the road is so much less punishing when your throttle isn’t giving you carpal tunnel syndrome!
@sam-ww1wk Жыл бұрын
I'm a hard enduro and trials rider at the core. Bought a Triumph Scrambler for a road bike/potential dirt road adventure bike. Put the thing through its paces. While awesomely simple, huge oil capacity, and full of style, it does not cut it off road. Issue is, if you don't know what actual adv riding is, there is no way to know if an improved dirt road will actually be improved the entire way. More often that not, things get gnarly. This is when most adv bikes fall short, including most twin dedicated adv bikes, not to mention dressed up road bikes labeled as "scramblers". If you actually want to tear up some dirt and make some serious miles, imho, a 690/701 is the ticket. If you're a very capable rider, maybe a 890r with proper suspension. I rode that scrambler from AZ to Canada and back, and damn if you don't have a tall wind screen you get blown to bits, and they look goofy as hell with one, I'd imagine.
@tdublove95583 жыл бұрын
Loved that Triumph but I think I would like riding it through the woods on a singletrack so I'd probably hurt it or myself 😃
@hamerplayer12293 жыл бұрын
got my DR650 stuck in a deep swamp and it fell over in deep water. Lucky no water got down the air cleaner. I had to have someone on a side by side hook a cable to it to pull it out as the bike was buried in deep silt and I was by myself. I couldn't imagine that being a Scrambler 1200XE with all the electronics. The bike probably would have been totaled
@fredtracy39312 жыл бұрын
Old school, ❤ it!!
@lawdayl2 жыл бұрын
I have the Trumpy, love it. Had the front suspension revalved and heavier springs. Rear revalved, perfect ride on trails and brilliant on twisty roads and highways. I agree, not a bike to ride through a swamp but I wouldn't have attempted that with my dr 650 either 😉
@milaventurasprod3 жыл бұрын
Great question! I'd rather a DR650 moded for a scrambler look
@chroniclesofsolid3 жыл бұрын
Good choice 👍
@agustincuevae3 жыл бұрын
Mmmmm Not really , fantic is a modern bike after all, fully adjustable suspension front and rear, just that make a whole word difference, efi motor derivative of enduro bikes is a lot responsive and full of life, not like old big thumpers which are lazy tractors, new brembro brakes, arrow exhaust OEM, fat domino handlebars, Cnc aluminum un breakable parts, most powerful led lights I have seen, all that against 80’s reliability? Not even a comparable
@milaventurasprod3 жыл бұрын
@@agustincuevae but the DR will outlive the Fantic.. and for the money, you can buy a thumper and mod it extensively. I have an XT660R with a modded USD suspension, it's brilliant (EFI). Have been thinking about giving it a scrambler XT500 look, Dakar meets café sorta stuff
@agustincuevae3 жыл бұрын
@@milaventurasprod how do you know the fantic is 3 Years on the market, let see that in 20 years, I dont want to be a foolish or a clod about it but, I just ride the xtz 650 the other day in a really hard trail very muddy, and the owner of the Yamaha ask me for help due is well over 55 years old and overweight, I tried the XT and it was so hard to get it through, old Engineering a bike from past generations really heavy on top and hard to handle off road on technical terrain, instead the fantic is just designed by Mariano Roman genius of aprilia is so noticeable how much easier is to get it through, and in fire road is a lot easier to run very fast because the low gravity center, I'm not taking of what I hear o or even my tastes I'm talking with the Experience
@milaventurasprod3 жыл бұрын
@@agustincuevae let's say I had bad experiences with chinese engines over and over again (luckily only owned 1, but dealt with some others, including engines manufactured by the same manufacturer as the Fantic. You have a point, but as I said, my XT is modded. The suspension is lighter than OEM, and better (Ohlins from a TTR600) and a couple of other mods to shed wheight from the top side of the bike. It resulted in a better handling, and goes trough a lot, being much easier to play around. It's just a shame that brands like this, known for their reliability, don't use other engines. For example the AJP PR7 was going to come out with the same engine as my bike, and that would be perfect, even if not so much performance oriented. Let's see what will come out of this, as the japanese are starting to come out with more lightwheight machines, and they are definetly improving on the chassis development (just see the T7 compared with the XT660Z that you rode)
@mickstafford4562 жыл бұрын
Of those. The Fantic, or the Benelli, are about the only ones I could afford, new. But, at that sort or price point, I'd probably opt for the new Royal Enfield Scram 411 (Not released when you made this video).
@nunyabidniz28683 жыл бұрын
@ ~6:50 -- In Spanish, double-Ls are the "ya" phoneme, so it's "Cab ah YEHR oh..." It means "horseman" (literally) or "guy" (colloquially) FWIW.
@geoffreygreen37433 жыл бұрын
Do you think we will ever see the Yamaha XT 500 reintroduced as a retro bike with so upgrades.
@d.Cog4202 жыл бұрын
brilliant idea!!
@redtobertshateshandles2 жыл бұрын
No. It wouldn't be remotely what the old one was. Add 100kgs, give it XT tank shape and graphics, voila XT500.
@charlesludwig9173 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see the Honda CL 360 again. I think it would be better for off road for its light weight.
@yorkchris103 жыл бұрын
Triumph seems to have hit the target. It only got a heater and cosmetics change. Good for ADV in my opinion. The Ducati is still evolving. Scrambler -to-sled-to-Fasthouse. I would say it's more for fast steps than rock garden. Some people are hoping for Elefant.
@danielyurkiw14133 жыл бұрын
My cruise control failed on a recent ride and I certainly noticed. Wouldn’t buy a bike without it.
@maraudostrogoth7472 жыл бұрын
The bikes with the tire hugging front fenders could get you stranded if you find yourself in an area with wet clay and mud. It can get packed in there and lock up the front tire, and it doesn't take a whole lot. Ask me how I know...
@ElijahLeeS2 жыл бұрын
Your opening comment implies we should give a hoot what the barista and the boys think of our bike. What you do and where you go way overshadow our societal image and peer judgment to those who aspire to be free. Just my feeling and reaction. Very info packed and well prepared video full of good comparisons among the bikes you focused on otherwise. Got my attention to the end. How are maintenance intervals on these scramblers is my only question. Thanks, be well
@chrismoody13423 жыл бұрын
From a guy who grew up riding motocross and now a street rider and has itch to get back off-road You’ve peaked my interest these scramblers. Really like the Triumph and Ducati models highlighted . I rode a older Triumph 750 Scrambler of an acquaintance. I loved the uniqueness, size power and styling. It had a custom exhaust and sounded so good. Don’t know if their is such a model around anymore. I’d consider buying a lightly used scrambler and saving some bucks.
@biribaevolution2183 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! Greetings from Italy! Benelli has been on sale since 2020 also the leoncino 800 trail.. And yes, leoncino means lion's cub😁
@FlorianWerner3 жыл бұрын
250mm of suspension travel on the 1200 XE, 200mm is on the XC model. The downside for dirt riding on a $15,000+ bike is that dents, broken parts and scratches cost an arm and leg, given most of the Triumph owners will want to keep up the good looks of their bike.
@axeami13542 жыл бұрын
Agreed no matter how capable it is I just couldn't risk damaging off road.
@767dag2 жыл бұрын
yeah little rich for me
@Buledoyanmotor3 жыл бұрын
very good video, i loved the Triumph 1200 XE, and i was seriously considering the Benelli Leoncino trail 500 (way lighter than the elephant TRK 502X at 235kg), i'm happy with the Maverick 500 (196kg wet), but i will consider the Scrambler with the same Loncin Engine next year, as by getting older, i may go to coffee shop more often lol.
@chroniclesofsolid3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, enjoy the coffee 😋
@fredtracy39312 жыл бұрын
CCM Maverick is cool!! 😎
@bkc_edc3 жыл бұрын
My brother has a scrambler 1200 xc (So the more road oriented one). It is so easy to ride off road. And I’ve never road anything bigger than a klx300 off road. Aside from my stock xsr700 every now and then.
@ronboe63253 жыл бұрын
This complaint goes across the board but I think is even more relevant for this segment - put on some decent function fenders. Especially in the front. On the Triumph you could see it coat the header and radiator with mud - it's just not right. I've never been a fan of scramblers, but the Triumph and Ducati got me rethinking that. Doubt I'll ever get to the point where I'd actually spend MY money on one. But they are growing on me. :)
@chroniclesofsolid3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of a scrambler, they look great. Not sure I could stomach the cost or the sheer terror of dropping it off road :P
@FenrisUlfven3 жыл бұрын
Slight correction: The Scrambler 1200XE has acctually 250 mm suspension travel, it is the XC that has 200 mm
@nomading_in3 жыл бұрын
Eye of the beholder, but I didn't like the look of the Triumph much in real life. It's not ugly by any means, but the over the top masculinity of the exhaust and brackets doesn't work well in my opinion. Not on this list, but something comparable looks-wise is the BMW R9T, which isn't exactly understated but the looks balance out much better for that scrambler aesthetic. Not that looks should be overly high on the list for an adventure bike, but just for anyone hearing everyone say the Triumph looks great...it's worth seeing one for real before getting too sold on the idea. Then again, I actually think the Royal Enfield Himalayan is a looker, so what would I know?
@HollowBurden Жыл бұрын
Funny - here I was looking to narrow down my dirt worthy scrambler choices a bit from a triumph scrambler 1200xe, ducati desert sled and more dirt worthy wild card fantic... Lo and behold, first 3 ha. Only diff is I've got a royal enfield himalayan in my possible cheapo/beginner slot in the back. It's got an agreeable price, decent looks and is quite capable. Makes for an OK dirt bike and decent adventure bike, as long as your not intending much high speed highway work
@richardclegg58533 жыл бұрын
Not sure I'd pick any of them over my 690 for off road performance, but damn they're all beautiful machines.
@filippocorti67603 жыл бұрын
690 is better off road. These are better on road.
@lcdubs7847 Жыл бұрын
Here in Canada, the Triumph is really the only option on this list that would make any sense.
@gpr22643 жыл бұрын
Excelent video as all of them!!!. Thanks and congratulations from Mexico 🇲🇽
@chroniclesofsolid3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@SledTillDead2 жыл бұрын
The Desert Sled is the most capable all rounder here and looks the best too.
@rocketrollsvlogs76253 жыл бұрын
I don't even know how to use my cruise control. But I like the idea of it being there. Great video thnx
@CRAZY-bi7fz Жыл бұрын
I really like it. I’m considering buying my first bike but im leaning towards a dirt bike but the bikes in the video look awesome
@1dancier3 жыл бұрын
The scramblers suit the green lanes in the UK, probably good here too, but pricey. The electronics will be a big thing with all the police control and varying speed limits on the roads these days.
@chroniclesofsolid3 жыл бұрын
Good point on cruise control being a license saver 👍
@axeami13542 жыл бұрын
A bike you may not have heard of but is worth a look is the hero brute 500 it's designed and built in the UK.
@cyclopathic9983 жыл бұрын
Solid you missed a couple: SWM 6 days and the elephant in the room RE Himalayan. IMO Triumph Scrambler is an expensive boat anchor I sat on one and it is too heavy to be a serious contender.. Desert Sled is legit. Fantic Rally is the bike; get one you'd be surprised how capable it is. Reliability-wise some early models had blown head gasket due to air not purged from cooling system at factory.. they fix that and that engine powers many bikes and pretty reliable.. I would still keep an eye on expansion tank. I have been riding a scrambler for a couple seasons now (infamous BMW X-Country) and they're very capable bikes light and crash better than ADVs due to lack of plastics and as or even more capable than adventure styled mounts. If you think it is pretty much the same bike, same suspension, clearance.. minus plastics, and lighter.. the only limiting factor is wheel size and rubber availability.
@chroniclesofsolid3 жыл бұрын
All great bikes you brought up, my video would be 30 mins though 😅
@cyclopathic9983 жыл бұрын
@@chroniclesofsolid that's a lame excuse. Testride Fantic Rally and SWM 6 days you won't be disappointed and get a couple videos.. Desert Sled too if you can.
@alvinsmith38942 жыл бұрын
Himalayan is an actual adventure bike though. This is talking about SCRAMBLERS.
@0HARE2 жыл бұрын
I really like that Triumph!
@abdulrehmanalyafei37082 жыл бұрын
Strong and beautiful ....A very beautiful masterpiece
@770hevron3 жыл бұрын
We only had a picture of the Svartpilen,yet,the engine is quite low placed,but it has good capacities! By the way,i really think that to get "real" offroad ,someone would prefer to use a trail or an enduro...Cause it causes no pain to see them falling^^. Imagine the Triumph falling on rocks...
@Luminarri2 жыл бұрын
most certainly does. it is a beautiful, well built bike at a great price. on top of it husky is owned by ktm now. that's why I purchased a 2022 svartpilen 401😛
@888jimmy3 жыл бұрын
Slick as Solid! That Duke is something else… 😍
@chroniclesofsolid3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jimmy, they sure are pretty 🙂
@lzblz86762 жыл бұрын
The chronicles of solid content
@TsvetanVR2 жыл бұрын
I briefly took the Triumph for a test ride and within 15 minutes on the road it was demanding that I start riding like a madman...I felt like I could just run over cars and stuff....make of that what you will LOL 😂 And just for reference, I went to take the Triumph on my S1000R. I never took the Triumph off-road but it was a bit too tall of a bike for me, enough to make me uncomfortable coming from naked and sports bikes. I'm 180cm tall with an 85cm inseam.
@victordohleman8061 Жыл бұрын
My 1st adventure bike was a 1978 TT500. Sporting running, lights, a speedo, no battery, no turn signals, alum tank, and bare bones machine made of steel. Could not kill that bike. crashed it in the dirt several times, got up and continued on. At 22 years old I paid 500.00 for it, sold it 4 year later beat to death for $500.00 I think it went on to become a circle track bike.
@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy Жыл бұрын
Correction: The Triumph Scrambler XE has 250mm suspension travel and 47mm forks. You were looking at the Scrambler XC specs.
@chroniclesofsolid Жыл бұрын
Might be why I pinned the correction way back when 👍 I still mix the two models up 😅
@DispatchMoto2 жыл бұрын
The BMW r9t just looks so good, hard to not love it.
@joaxgolf Жыл бұрын
nothing wrong having coffee with and adventure bike!
@jimcampbell35112 жыл бұрын
I had an r9t BMW Scrambler for about a year. It was a little heavy but it was decent on fire roads with better tires than it came equipped with. The only problem was it was terribly uncomfortable for more than an hour on any ride. Great bike to look at- riding, not so much.
@tsdmoto11 ай бұрын
Great video with some machines we don't see here in the states. Regarding the Desert Sled, super cool bike but you DO need to protect that oil cooler hanging off the side, so I'm not sure how much better it actually is compared to water cooled bikes.
@TimRHillard Жыл бұрын
I have seen people with desmodromic tattoos, no kidding! They love'em. Ducati sure has allot of soul and spirit in their bikes.
@rupertfb3 жыл бұрын
Solid - thanks for this video: fascinating insight! When you talk ‘Adventure Bikes’ your videos and commentary are always about stock bikes with no bolt-ons. Might you consider mentioning the bikes potential for racks, side bags etc - as (in my adventure experience) this stuff is a ‘must have’ yet clearly some bikes discussed won’t be able to be built up to be a kit-hauling mule! For example: I sold my cb500x to get a KLR for exactly this reason
@chroniclesofsolid3 жыл бұрын
Noted Rupert 👍
@wickedleeloopy21152 жыл бұрын
The Ducati scrambler gives me vintage bultaco vibes. And that's not a bad thing.
@irishflyer63772 жыл бұрын
Great. Video, love the style but I think I’ll stick with my well used DRZ for the mud.
@robertmartin79642 жыл бұрын
Same here, got a wr250r and just can't see these bikes following me in the mud and trails. There certainly pretty bikes but that would just make me never want to beat it up in the dirt.
@dornie_donko3 жыл бұрын
Great vid, mate!
@Dansk55 Жыл бұрын
I'll take the 1200 XE thanks
@toururbano16992 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your information, the really good video, bye from Madrid (Aranjuez)
@maxjones46502 жыл бұрын
Great review. Very clear explanation.
@df2382 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved hearing everything about the Fantic up until the motor grr.
@TimRHillard Жыл бұрын
That BMW sure is purtyyy! It just needs some crash bars for the jugs and voila, GS light/old!
@Alexmaystudio2 жыл бұрын
Rumour on the street is that Fantic are developing an Italian engine for the Cabs. Who knows! I’ve owned the Caballero Rally and loved it for the local trails. Not so great for my 50 mile commute so I’m looking into the desert sled now.
@timjohnson11993 жыл бұрын
So many bikes, so little time. Also, some other niggling little details like money, storage space, The Wife, etc.
@davidzitzman65113 жыл бұрын
You had me at scrambles.
@brutallyremastered42552 жыл бұрын
Whenever I hit the outback, be it Redhill or suburban Sydney or Red Rocks in Wellington I insist on a moribund, corporate sub-EDM soundtrack to make my off-the-shelf Nu-Scramble look the part. I love “assthetics”. I’m surely done with riding a machine resembling a high stepping can opener.
@nur_johnny871320 күн бұрын
YOU MISSED the fantic 700 scrambler - it has at least 150mmm travel - is little more than 180kg and has the famous Yamaha 700 twin - I think is way better then the Ducati - at least 20kg lighter and with great engine, too
@timparkhouse99253 жыл бұрын
Really great video (love the inclusive reference to ovarian as well as testicular capacity 😋) but I think you dodged the big question. Luggage! I ride a Husky 401 Svartpilen and do a bit of messing around off road, it can do lots more than I can handle but it’s hard to take on a proper mission without somehow figuring out how to carry a lot of stuff.
@chroniclesofsolid3 жыл бұрын
Thanks TIm. I just plain forgot about luggage. I use soft luggage and travel light so its never on my mind🙃 Noted for next time 👍
@artificialingredient2 жыл бұрын
It's marketed as an adventure bike, but the Moto Guzzi V85TT is worth a shout as well
@flywire763 жыл бұрын
Another great vid.
@uncletom197110 ай бұрын
I bought the Caballero 500 Rally this summer (the sand colored model), and I'd say it's more a roadster than an off-roader. Sure you can ride trails and gravel, mine even has the bash plate. Its suspension is adjustable in several ways, beside preload you also have rebound and compression both front and rear. But the bike is difficult to stand on due to the exhaust cover on its right side. I'd remove it but the pipe gets so hot it'll burn your boot. Notice in all shots and photos showing the bike's right hand side how the rider stands, where and how he places his foot. That's because the calf gets pushed forward and outwards you need to twist your foot or stand on your heel. It is actually pretty dangerous considering that Fantic market the bike as offroad capable.
@rienkhoek41698 ай бұрын
Is insulating it with exhaust tape an option? Would you gain enough room when removing the cover?
@uncletom19718 ай бұрын
@@rienkhoek4169 Well yes, I think so. It would help to isolate it with some heat tape locally. But I'm not sure how it would look. I'll remove the plastic cover and look, once I get the bike out again in spring. We've got ice and snow here at the moment (Sweden).
@martinfisker74383 жыл бұрын
The scrambler is definitely capable of touring, the question is: are you? You are going to miss a lot on comfort over an adventure bike: less leg room and no wind protection. And to be real, any modern bike is capable of long distance touring
@tdublove95583 жыл бұрын
Definitely possible I took my 2021 Yamaha TW200 1289 miles in a week on a casual Adventure with 100lbs in luggage 16hp mule 😂
@user-sv9je7bz4j Жыл бұрын
A throttle clamp "cruise control" is like $50 for a nice one, works perfectly.
@beer30292 жыл бұрын
Not being pedantic but the Triumph 1200 XE has Showa front forks (the gold does make them look like Ohlins though).
@billcotton15513 жыл бұрын
Solid ,I love that Fantic! I want one!
@kymstock1852 Жыл бұрын
Who makes Fantic? If it has a Chinese motor it is a miss for me. Ducati service fees; No! Triumph; have they made air filter access easier than the Tigers? Do they fit the steering head with ball bearings still? Is the electrics area under the battery where it will corrode? For me, if I wanted a scrambler, it would be a Royal Enfield Scram. It goes as fast as most scrambler rider want to and is a cheap as chips to buy and own.
@robertmartin79642 жыл бұрын
Do dig the scrambler style. I generally stick with smaller bikes off road though. My wr250r has been ideal for blasting trails and getting me home. Plan on grabbing the tenere 700 soon for longer trips out of state but may consider a scrambler if I can find one alot cheaper than they go for new.
@davidcauchi28372 жыл бұрын
Greetings. Well I like this, I now have a Triumph Sandstorm Street Scrambler and its a lot of fun on the dirt roads which is my skill level. I added a Side Pannier Rack and Bag plus rear rack to give me some places to stop gear. Bloody fuel tank is small and I wish it was at least 16Ltrs... I think its one to consider, price is a little high and picking up a used one may be the way for your second bike in the shed.... David..Adelaide...Tiger 900GT
@chroniclesofsolid2 жыл бұрын
I am getting very jealous of your bike stable David🥲 Enjoy mate👍
@davidcauchi28372 жыл бұрын
@@chroniclesofsolid Thanks! Lots of hard work, saving up and going without to pay for it! Retirement has to have some benefits. LOL....
@alfonsozabaletao9683 жыл бұрын
You, sire, do get th scrambler vibe
@filippocorti67603 жыл бұрын
I'm not as familiar with scrambler type bikes compared to others. Are the scramblers better or worse off-road than the adventure-tourer bikes? Are the scramblers better or worse on-road than the adventure tourers?
@slakk50932 жыл бұрын
Fantic has issues with head gasket failures, word of warning to potenial buyers. Wait for a revised version (if it ever comes)
@kevinnashskitchen35173 жыл бұрын
I'm really surprised not more people are gravitating towards the KTM790 S model. Great suspension a d ground clearance . low seat height with good power and weight.
@stevecade8573 жыл бұрын
I have the R and wouldn't change it for any Scrambler tbh. They may be competent off-road but like many GS's it is more about the style than any pretence of off-road travel.
@alloomis16352 жыл бұрын
back in the mists of dawn, scramblers were dirt-capable bikes that had very basic lights. fun in the desert on week-ends, carry you to work in between. nobody rides bikes as primary transport anymore, and 'adventure' bikes weigh as much as harley cruisers. there's a dutch lady riding a 300cc honda pretty much everywhere in the world, they had to stop her riding up a volcano this week - she sees more real adventure every week than those grossly blown up beemers will ever get near in a lifetime.