4 Songs with Confusing Intros

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David Bennett Piano

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0:00 What is a Confusing Intro?
0:33 Fashion by David Bowie
1:24 Veridis Quo by Daft Punk
3:20 Car Wash by Rose Royce
5:58 Hooktheory
6:40 Beetlebum by Blur
9:30 Patreon

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@ZzInZaNezZ
@ZzInZaNezZ Ай бұрын
i think because claps are so commonly used on beats 2 and 4, that even with no other elements to provide context it still feels like its supposed to be on beats 2 and 4.
@t1p1may0
@t1p1may0 Ай бұрын
This. Anyone who hears claps as being 1 and 3 needs to check themselves!
@klaxoncow
@klaxoncow Ай бұрын
Yeah, it's how you separate the musicians from the non-musicians. Claps, snares and other "white noise" goes on the 2 and the 4. Bass goes on the 1 and 3. Obviously.
@unknownfeeling
@unknownfeeling Ай бұрын
@@klaxoncow Agree but I think even jsut careful listeners also would notice that claps are mostly used as a snare. Hmm, maybe we can separate people who have musical potential hah
@guanoApe
@guanoApe Ай бұрын
Claps ring in the range of snare like electric kits or midi options but when an audience claps along its usually in a folk or acoustic or maybe gospel setting likely without drums and they are encouraged to clap on beat
@AA5SA
@AA5SA 14 күн бұрын
Friends don't let friends clap on one and three.
@MrAlbania007
@MrAlbania007 Ай бұрын
The song Veridis Quo is actually very smart play on words. It means ‘Where are you going’ in latin, but it also sounds like ‘Very Disco’ which is a pangram for ‘Discovery’ the name of the album ;). Clever, just like the intro
@Neorigg
@Neorigg Ай бұрын
an anagram you mean, coz a pangram is a phrase that features every letter of the alphabet at least once
@FrogFrogFrogT
@FrogFrogFrogT Ай бұрын
That would be 'vadis', not 'veridis'.
@ButzPunk
@ButzPunk Ай бұрын
The actual Latin phrase is "quo vadis" so the pun is a bit of a stretch. Interestingly, the change from "disco-very" to "very-disco" could be seen as an example of _verlan_ which is a French method of producing cant words where the syllables are reversed (e.g. verlan itself, which comes from l'invers), which might make it the only (certainly most famous) example of _verlanised dog latin_
@chitlitlah
@chitlitlah Ай бұрын
It would be pronounced more like 'wery discwo'. The v can be pronounced like the English v if you want to sound like an old Italian pronouncing Latin, but the qu works the same in Latin, Italian, and English. Also what ButzPunk said. My dictionary can't find veridis as the inflected form of any word and Google Translate thinks it's an inflection of veritas (truth). Also, for the English translation of "Quo vadis?", I like, "Whither goest thou?" However, veridis looks more like vaditis to me, so maybe it should be, "Where y'all going?"
@crit-c4637
@crit-c4637 Ай бұрын
​@@chitlitlah That is the transliterated spelling, so the v is pronounced as a v in English. Also the title is a reference to Quo Vadis, confirmed by the artists.
@zakolache4490
@zakolache4490 Ай бұрын
Not first, but i'm the real downbeat!
@aa23music
@aa23music Ай бұрын
lmaooo
@joshuaizly5502
@joshuaizly5502 Ай бұрын
Nice
@Trombonemusic765
@Trombonemusic765 Ай бұрын
No one like this, it's at 69
@Mighty_Atheismo
@Mighty_Atheismo Ай бұрын
Wow..... well done.
@SonyaBladesBooty
@SonyaBladesBooty Ай бұрын
More like the real deadbeat
@matthewparker9276
@matthewparker9276 Ай бұрын
The best example pf a confusing intro i can think of is Everybody Want's to Rule the World. The misdirect isn't that long, only a couple of bars, but it misleads you on the tempo as well as the rhythym.
@studiodsr
@studiodsr Ай бұрын
I like how later in the song you hear the opening keyboard notes again, this time with the rest of the band to let you know the correct timing
@KidRisky
@KidRisky Ай бұрын
There’s a fun video of Harry Connick Jr. playing a solo and the crowd is clapping along, then his bandmates start laughing as he keeps playing. He had just played a measure of 5/4 to get the crowd clapping on the 2 and 4, and no one noticed but the musicians.
@Lotschi
@Lotschi Ай бұрын
so cool!
@canadianbakn
@canadianbakn Ай бұрын
Great clip I found it today. You can see the drummer in the background raising his arms in celebration after the 5/4 measure and it immediately sounds much more swingy!
@stevehenrys
@stevehenrys Ай бұрын
The bell ringing at the beginning of High Hopes by Pink Floyd is another one. It gets you nicely into thinking it's on the 1 but when the keyboard comes in you realise that the bell is not even ringing on the 2 and 4 but on the '2-and' & '4-and' - an eighth note behind the 1 and 3.
@cooperfuller9524
@cooperfuller9524 Ай бұрын
One of my favorite examples of a misleading intro is “La Mer” by Nine Inch Nails. The piano plays a 3/4 riff to start off the song. The drums come in playing 4/4 and the bass follows the piano in 3/4. It’s a really cool song!
@xubse
@xubse Ай бұрын
ooooo polymetres!
@grief8060
@grief8060 Ай бұрын
the most beautiful track trent has made
@cooperfuller9524
@cooperfuller9524 Ай бұрын
@@grief8060 I might have to agree with you there
@chrischurchill4978
@chrischurchill4978 Ай бұрын
I think the cool thing about NIN using weird time signatures is that they groove so well you often don't even notice that it is a weird time signature - eg: The Becoming and Just Like You Imagined.
@cooperfuller9524
@cooperfuller9524 Ай бұрын
@@chrischurchill4978 sooo true. And even the songs where you can tell there’s some weird time, those songs STILL groove hard. “March of the Pigs” and “The Collector” for instance
@Pandamasque
@Pandamasque Ай бұрын
Rock and Roll by Led Zeppelin is one that even most drummers struggle to get right.
@ronmay9196
@ronmay9196 Ай бұрын
When I learned about this, it felt like the most enlightening thing ever.
@robindreier9796
@robindreier9796 Ай бұрын
There is also Invaders Must Die by the Prodigy. the bass loop which starts the song basically begins on bar 4 of an incomplete 4 bar loop.
@ChrisGarmon
@ChrisGarmon Ай бұрын
Marc Cohn's Walking in Memphis always throws me off. Not just from the intro onward, but already starting there. Feels like the singing sets in on the wrong beat every single time, and then when the chorus hits I'm completely lost.
@josemiguelmaciasvocar2690
@josemiguelmaciasvocar2690 Ай бұрын
Also: the reason Car Wash is confusing is because the kick drum enters with the claps on 2 and 4. So even if you feel it correctly at first, it makes you second guess.
@jhsounds
@jhsounds Ай бұрын
I've always heard "Veridis Quo" the intended way, but that's probably because I was already used to that kind of arpeggio in classical music, and I subconsciously ignored the offset bass notes.
@alexisbudzisz
@alexisbudzisz Ай бұрын
Same
@AFricanTigerr
@AFricanTigerr Ай бұрын
THANK YOU for including Car Wash. FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS CLAP ON 1 & 3! I once had to stand my ground against six other members of the band, who insisted that I was out of my mind. (All professional musicians, too.) They had inserted an extra beat when the tune started to compensate for the mistake. But if you notice, the clapping keeps going throughout the rest of the song and it becomes obvious that it's on the 2 & 4. My bandmates tried to insist that Rose Royce "meant to do that". But I stood my ground and won out in the end. It was beyond frustrating for me as they were really snarky about it. Eventually they came round, but not without a fight. I was so sad that day, I'll never forget it. So now I feel validated! Thanks, David. You're the best. :)
@NeonBeeCat
@NeonBeeCat 14 күн бұрын
I hate being right, everyone makes fun of me but IM THE AUTISTIC MUSICIAN HERE GRAAAH.
@dsbromeister1546
@dsbromeister1546 Ай бұрын
Interestingly, I remember a time when Veridis Quo and Car Wash were new to me and I heard them the wrong way, but after listening to them so many times, I basically trained my brain to hear them correctly. Not an intro, but the middle 8 section of Lean On Me by Bill Withers is very metrically confusing, since I've never heard a single cover that does it the same as the original.
@kelli217
@kelli217 Ай бұрын
Alan Parsons Project - I Robot. The sequenced and quantized bass synth line comes in and it's so regularly paced... and because it fades in, the downbeat could be anywhere. Then finally the drums come in to give you the reference point for the 1, but they've got a shuffle groove to them, and suddenly somehow the synth becomes the off-beat part.
@mightyV444
@mightyV444 Ай бұрын
Some more great examples! 😀👍 Another one of many is Rush's song 'Stick It Out', in which it becomes clear only once the singing starts how to count the beat 🙂
@SotraEngine4
@SotraEngine4 Ай бұрын
I really like your channel. I like that you seem to be throughout in what sponsorships you pick and that you put emphasis on teaching. Also, cool with Clap at the end
@aa23music
@aa23music Ай бұрын
also david love your videos you got me into music theory, and i am about to do abrsm grade 8 because of you
@DavidBennettPiano
@DavidBennettPiano Ай бұрын
Well done!!
@aa23music
@aa23music Ай бұрын
@@DavidBennettPiano thank you! :)
@seancorrigan5875
@seancorrigan5875 Ай бұрын
I find a lot of genres where syncopation is a big component can be hard to count along to in the beginning. My favorite example is “The Impression That I Get” by The Mighty Mighty Bosstones. A Ska punk song where the first 4 bars are just the guitar and the rest of the band (minus the drums) is the next 4 bars. Then the drums come in and finally anchors the rhythm to the correct place.
@LoopyChew
@LoopyChew Ай бұрын
It’s *only* the guitar for the first four bars and I think the sustains do a pretty good job anchoring the rhythm pretty early on. YMMV, naturally. The thing that blew my mind years down the line is that someone pointed out to me that there’s an invisible comma in the refrain: “I’ve neeeeeeever had to, knock on wood-“ which changes the start of the chorus from a declaration of autonomy to a statement of empathy for everyone who’s eeeeever had to do the things the verses ask about. Which is out of the scope of this video but I can’t believe I had to have that pointed out.
@federicovicente8116
@federicovicente8116 Ай бұрын
I need a part 4 of this great series.
@lukeredpath
@lukeredpath Ай бұрын
There are so many covers of Beetlebum on KZbin that get the timing wrong. It’s easily done, I heard it the wrong way for a long time.
@MorzakEV
@MorzakEV Ай бұрын
Yeah, that always confuses me when I hear it. I feel like Damon’s singing shifts from slightly earlier in the intro to the verse as well, which means you re hear the “wrong” timing even when you know the song.
@flowwersxoxo
@flowwersxoxo Ай бұрын
i think the confusing thing is trying to count the guitar part as quarter notes. to me it's always been pretty clearly eighths.
@TigerRogers0660
@TigerRogers0660 Ай бұрын
Enjoyed David!! Next installment please!!
@volpedog1738
@volpedog1738 Ай бұрын
Ay, first music KZbinr I've seen to cover my fav daft punk song, so ty for that
@eancurtis9333
@eancurtis9333 Ай бұрын
I hate when this happens lol you are bopping your head then all of sudden a different count comes in lol
@snazztacular
@snazztacular Ай бұрын
I kinda love it. For me it has the same impact as syncopation; it feels lively and unexpected in a sort of satisfying way
@BrunoEspadanaGuitar
@BrunoEspadanaGuitar Ай бұрын
Now matter how many times I listen to Beetlebum and figure out the right rhythm, it always trips me up the next time!... Great video, David, as usual!
@rct3isepic
@rct3isepic Ай бұрын
2 songs come to mind. Tell Me Something Good by Chaka Khan and Nautilus by Close to the Sun both have decieving intros. Tell Me Something Good presents an up down pattern with a mute on the downbeat but starts on an offbeat tricking you into hearing the mute as an offbeat, and Nautilus has a sonar ping on the and of 1 but the beat doesn't come in for 10 measures. The bass and keys do come in hinting at its true spot in the beat, but until the drums come in there's no confirmation until then
@ihatethisguy
@ihatethisguy Ай бұрын
For me a better example for Daft Punk would be Daftendirekt. Veridis Quo didn't give me trouble when I first heard it, but for Daftendirekt my first listen was great because the beat came in and established in almost a goosebumpy way after the low-pass filter was effectively off
@BradTheProducer
@BradTheProducer Ай бұрын
Two songs that always come to mind are Cups by Underworld (which is pretty cheeky about tricking you at the beginning) and Swap Meet by Nirvana. Now that my ears have figured out what's going on in Swap Meet, I actually have a hard time not hearing it the right way, and honestly I kind of miss how my brain used to interpret the intro. It's like a black/blue-yellow/white dress situation.
@cakemartyr5794
@cakemartyr5794 Ай бұрын
Love it. Great video. More please.
@stefanwerner5799
@stefanwerner5799 26 күн бұрын
I never would have imagined that one could count Beetlebum the wrong way. As a guitar player, it always seemed natural to count the muted strings intro as counting 1, 2, 3, 4.
@CymeCymeCyme
@CymeCymeCyme Ай бұрын
Nice Vid, David. I think about these types of intros a lot, too. Some that spring to mind are: Pistol of Fire - Kings Of Leon still gets me every time and I actually can't unhear the wrong counting, only by the time we're in the chorus Razz - KOL is off the same album and also has a weird intro, very cool though First thing I thought you'd mention btw was drive my car, but I believe you already touched on that in another video In rainbows also has two cool ones bodysnatchers - Radiohead Videotape - Radiohead - this is really weird, there's a video essay out there about this - basically every chord is on the eighth note before the downbeat but it never really gets into that feel ... Looking forward to the next video!
@stephenharwood381
@stephenharwood381 Ай бұрын
I definitely hear Beetlebum a different (the 'correct') way to you. Was so confused by how you were counting it.
@rhythmjones
@rhythmjones Ай бұрын
Just what I needed
@allanorr2595
@allanorr2595 Ай бұрын
Two different songs by The Cars - "Since You're Gone", and "Just What I Needed". I can usually latch on the second or third time around, but they always get me on the first listen, especially "Since You're Gone".
@BANJAXXEDMUSIC
@BANJAXXEDMUSIC Ай бұрын
Learned so much from you again. Hooktheory is really helpful too
@lucadicriscio5614
@lucadicriscio5614 Ай бұрын
Another big example of confusing intro is the instrumental “I Robot” From The Alan Parsons Project. It seems the synth starts on the downbeat, but when the drums comes in everything changes!
@Overcrox
@Overcrox Ай бұрын
My personal favorite example of this is Behold by Joey Fehrenbach. The synth line that fades in at the beginning leads the rhythm, and even when the drums come in, they still feel like they're on the offbeat. I'm not even sure if it was intended or not, but the synth has such a strong presence that you can flip whether it or the drums are counting the 1 and it works either way.
@racheldare.
@racheldare. Ай бұрын
I’ve listened to Beetlebum approximately a billion times probably and I’ve never noticed this lol
@stevenking4617
@stevenking4617 Ай бұрын
Yeah, I don't even know the song but I struggled to hear it "wrong." Same with Car Wash.
@nautje
@nautje Ай бұрын
Yeah, for some reason I never heard it “wrong” either
@kemastry3986
@kemastry3986 26 күн бұрын
Gratitude by Oingo Boingo. The synth woodwind intro sounds normal but when it comes back in later it shows that it’s a half beat late
@SourjyoSinha-xi7ly
@SourjyoSinha-xi7ly Ай бұрын
Identikit by Radiohead also messed with me when I first heard it!
@aperturius
@aperturius Ай бұрын
The Butcher still messes me up every time.
@cesdays4151
@cesdays4151 Ай бұрын
Here in Mexico 🇲🇽 the song with the "most confusing" intro 😅 for bar bands is 'sex on fire' by kings of lion... if drummers really knew how to count they would know that the 4th measure of the intro is played in 5 /4 and not in 4/4. Another very confusing song that I would love for you to analyze is 'rabbit in your headlights' by UNKLE. A jewel! Greetings David!
@thesilverbrow2382
@thesilverbrow2382 Ай бұрын
This is one of my favourite arrangement tricks. It's harder than it seems to incorporate it into your own song. The absolute best example of this I've heard in years is Time & Place by Queens of the Stoneage from the latest album.
@xrs_bln6311
@xrs_bln6311 Ай бұрын
thx for finally clearing up beatle bum in my head
@jonathanwingmusic
@jonathanwingmusic Ай бұрын
I've always loved this effect. I'm not sure if you mentioned in your previous video, but I think I've heard a term for this in the past, either it's something like implied metric modulation, or rhythmic displacement, or metric displacement? Whatever it's called, it's a great trick! Yeah as a drummer myself Car Wash doesn't throw me, I immediately think of claps on the 2 & 4. When the kick comes in layered with it, I hear that as that kind of reggae style rhythm where kick is often on the upbeat too.
@welcometonebalia
@welcometonebalia Ай бұрын
Thank you.
@onehere9065
@onehere9065 Ай бұрын
hey, david. fantastic series. don't tread on me by metallica is a favorite that comes to mind. thank you for your consistently excellent content.
@SannaKore
@SannaKore Ай бұрын
A song intro that always tripped me up was Introducing Palace Players by MEW. It really gives the feeling of being lost before the song finally starts.
@JabaLeeJones
@JabaLeeJones Ай бұрын
Nirvana - Swap meet, to me the riffs "totally changes" when drums come in, but is the same riff with another "1"
@rickfreeth6496
@rickfreeth6496 10 күн бұрын
Somewhere I saw or read a person involved in the creation of Bennie and the Jets saying they intentionally placed the claps on beat 1 and 3 because it's well known that UK audiences do that rather than clapping the backbeat 2 and 4
@UnshavenStatue
@UnshavenStatue Ай бұрын
beetlebum is really cool since they have elements of both counts going at the same time. i think it's fair to say, for the first part, where the 1 is, the correct answer is "yes" by "split vote". only on verse two is the vote tiebroken
@kevinr.9733
@kevinr.9733 Ай бұрын
Here's a very obscure (and very subtle) example of a song with a confusing intro: "Black Rose", from the cult GameCube psychological horror game _Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem._ The intro is sparse, consisting of four bells tolls, each two measures apart, and ambient rain and thunder sounds. Once the guitar and synths start coming in, you (might) realize that not only are the bells _not_ sounding on the downbeat, they're a _sixteenth note_ before beat 2 (the "a" in "one-ee-and-a").
@SamArus51
@SamArus51 Ай бұрын
I love "This Is Your Life" by The Killers in this context. Always heard the voicing intro out of time.
@TraxtasyMedia
@TraxtasyMedia Ай бұрын
darn it, I listened to Verdis Quo so many times, that I did not notice the beat beating off, but it's a very instresting way to introduce a song to people and tbh before, this video I haven't even noticed this confusion even once.
@virgo47
@virgo47 Ай бұрын
Beetlebum definitely! I even thought that slide is not on a beat - but it actually is. So, funny enough, the first strong sound (the slide, which is actually even more clear in the original) is really the first. And the singing/phrasing does help at all.
@hugoosaliou
@hugoosaliou Ай бұрын
Another confusing one is the beginning of the song "Lights Out" by Royal Blood. It's difficult to directly feel the pulse when you're listening to the song and not playing it. The idea is simple, just constant sixteenth notes with a rest on beats 1 and 3. Mike Kerr even pick the first note of the pattern with a downstroke when it would be more comfortable to start with an upstroke!
@iliketrains3495
@iliketrains3495 Ай бұрын
Yep that's another great shout, that one has always stumped me
@trainjacobsweden
@trainjacobsweden Ай бұрын
"Veridis Quo" is used as opening to the swedish TV-series Supersnälla Silver-Sara & Stål-Henrik!
@Papyrusans
@Papyrusans Ай бұрын
A song that I find has a confusing intro is Walking in Memphis by Marc Cohn. At first, it seems like there is a chord change on every 1st and 3rd beat (with the first chord of the song starting on the 1 &). But once we get to the chorus, to me at least, where the downbeat falls starts to become ambiguous, and once the drums enter, it becomes apparent that the chord changes actually happen on the 2 & and 4 &.
@DennisCarr
@DennisCarr Ай бұрын
I've got two from Traffic - Tragic Magic (on Shootout At the Fantasy Factory) has a percussion lead-in that'll throw you *two* beats, and Light Up or Leave Me Alone (from The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys) has that, but with a lead electric guitar, where a certain bridge is 6/4 rather than 4/4 - you'll hear it. Also - for interesting use of the off beat, go listen to the title track of that latter album - and ditto with Rock and Roll Stew, you'll hear an off-beat clap in certain parts of each song.
@ktulu193
@ktulu193 Ай бұрын
My favourite example of this is "Much against everyones advice" by Soulwax. Probably not well known, but definitely worth a listen
@JBDazen
@JBDazen Ай бұрын
I love that one :)
@KusacUK
@KusacUK Ай бұрын
Oooo not heard that for ages! Straight off to Spotify I go… thanks!
@martinvo7369
@martinvo7369 Ай бұрын
Take it easy by The Eagles starts on 4&, but the drum fill after the first chords is leading so smoothly into the full instrumentation that it is barely noticeable if you are not counting along.
@althealligator1467
@althealligator1467 Ай бұрын
Do You Want To? by First of October and Easy On You by Sir Chloe are my picks for other songs with confusing intros
@TheSharkAnt
@TheSharkAnt Ай бұрын
Another example of a song with a confusing intro (at least for me anyway) is Locust by Machine Head. It starts right on beat 1, but I always hear it as if it were on the and of 4.
@bobsala7780
@bobsala7780 Ай бұрын
Locust is an awesome song.
@missile9947
@missile9947 Ай бұрын
The guitar riff oh Shallow by Porcupine Tree seems to start on 4 but it's actually the 1 and it's clear when the drums kick in. We Are by Karnivool is confusing because it's a 3:4 polyrhythm and it soundss like it starts on the offbeat of 3 but it actually starts on the downbeat of 1 and it's 4/4. The floor tom and snare pattern make the polyrhythm stand out, but the song it's actually in 4/4
@Flobyby
@Flobyby Ай бұрын
I was sure the daft punk one was gonna be Voyager ^^ it has the same anticipated chord pattern. I listen to this album hundreds of times so I actually got quite surprised when you counted the beat on that!
@ALWTunes
@ALWTunes Ай бұрын
Lonely Boy by Andrew Gold is an example. I love when songs do this. It’s like a little musical prank on the listener that I always find amusing.
@AntechamberAE
@AntechamberAE Ай бұрын
Saw daft punk in the thumbnail and assumed you were covering the intro to “Give Life Back To Music”. That one always confused me until I realized the actual pulse
@fonesrphunny7242
@fonesrphunny7242 Ай бұрын
Meshuggah - Combustion Starts with a straight forward 4/4 riff and an off-beat hi-hat count in. If you shift the first note by an 8th, the hats land on beat. You can count the song either way, from start to finish.
@aaroncarraway4739
@aaroncarraway4739 Ай бұрын
Another song that has a confusing intro (though it may not be the kind your looking for) is My Curse by Killswitch Engaged. Not only does it start in 3:4 time which can throw some people off. The guitar playing the picking pattern plays the "melody" for lack of a better term on the up beat and a "root" tone on the down beat, with the second guitar strumming chords being the only thing that tells you when the first down beat actually is. So for some (like me) figuring how to count that gets confusing very quickly at first.
@JD102790
@JD102790 Ай бұрын
I went and listened to all of these before watching the video, just to get an unbiased first impression of the timing. Only one i actually heard the correct way immediately was "Beetlebum"
@PowerRedBullTypology
@PowerRedBullTypology Ай бұрын
The Rasmus - In the Shadows intro also misleads you as a listener, thinking that this alarm sound is on the place that the kick normally plays, while it's on the place of the snare drum
@jbank7547
@jbank7547 23 күн бұрын
one of the songs that had an intro that confused me the first time I heard it recently is gardenia by Kyuss
@majorse203
@majorse203 Ай бұрын
On the last one I felt the right beat, on the Car Wash one I felt the wrong beat. Cool stuff.
@leonardosorianialves6903
@leonardosorianialves6903 Ай бұрын
My favorite example of this is Jethro Tull's Rainbow blues. It isn't really about misplacing the downbeat like most of the examples in these videos. I count it in 12 with some pick up notes. After the intro it just go straight to 4/4.
@ellielovesbands
@ellielovesbands Ай бұрын
I love blur 🙌🏻
@studiodsr
@studiodsr Ай бұрын
Funny, I’ve never heard Veridis Quo the way that David is counting it out. I always hear it with the beat placed as intended by the band
@jonathandidley5262
@jonathandidley5262 Ай бұрын
Bowie was always pushing himself and is a great example for musicians/songwriters everywhere. It’s why Bowie was even better than he thought he was ala “Ashes to Ashes”. Although we all know there was a bit of winking going on when he says “I’ve never done good things”. He always pushed himself to find new sounds and fresh ways to make music. We are forever grateful.
@jonathandidley5262
@jonathandidley5262 Ай бұрын
BTW I dig your new mode album. Nice!
@bongbean18
@bongbean18 Ай бұрын
ive always heard Beetlebum as if the slide happens on the downbeat, the way you counted it and the way you heard it sounded really off to me, its weird how it's different for everyone lol
@RascalMcascal
@RascalMcascal Ай бұрын
Playing guitar and drums, I'd have to agree. I would never have imagined it in David's way in a million years. Very wacky indeed
@tedcoop4392
@tedcoop4392 14 күн бұрын
One of my favorites in this category, a tad more subtle, is "Galileo" by Indigo Girls.
@SomniRespiratoryFlux
@SomniRespiratoryFlux Ай бұрын
I think that a point of ambiguity that can be brought in is that, while it's easiest to notate these confusing intros as having the offset be at the start, so that the meter is consistent and any odd notes are in a pickup bar, it would be just as technically valid to have a single measure of an odd time right before the beat solidifies. For example, if there's an eighth note pickup, a bar of 7/8 could account for the half a beat that "feels" lost in the shuffle. There are several reasons this isn't done usually (I already mentioned keeping a consistent meter, but often the actual part doesn't change any when the beat comes in, so in those cases having an odd measure before that would make the existing part fall in a different part of the bar than before the shift), but it would still _technically_ notate the song correctly. And there are times when that sort of trick is pulled in a less ambiguous context, so even as much as people would probably scratch their heads at music being notated that way, they probably still have a sense for how that works intuitively whether they know it or not. That said, in these ambiguous situations, the simplest notation is probably the best, but it's still a point worth acknowledging.
@Darm0k
@Darm0k Ай бұрын
In the Meantime by space hog is like this. The loop that opens the song sounds like it has a pickup, but its actually on the beat. And you can't tell until the band comes in. No matter how many times I hear that song it always sounds off.
@ferdiabel
@ferdiabel Ай бұрын
‘Bom feeling’ by Sara Tavares led to entire discussions on where the one is between me and my musician mates. The effect extends quite a bit into the song as well.
@dgauper
@dgauper Ай бұрын
I’m the same way with Car Wash. Once you have heard enough of the beginning and especially the guitar high note “and” it’s easy to hear that from the start.
@hazuinf
@hazuinf Ай бұрын
One of my favourite examples of this is You’re So Cool by Jonathan Bree
@Alex-wx4bz
@Alex-wx4bz Ай бұрын
Love these videos. Here are some more that have thrown me for a loop: Kickstart My Heart by Motley Crue and No More Tears by Ozzy Osbourne.
@PuppetMasterIX
@PuppetMasterIX Ай бұрын
Another example: "The Impression That I Get" by The Mighty Mighty Bosstones The intro is guitar-driven and misleads you into thinking it's not syncopated, with a little tom-crash on drums and the first bit of bass also being on the accent; even the sax line doesn't foreshadow the actual 1 until the full arrangement kicks in. The actual first played note of the song is the only clue in the intro for where the 1 is, but is easily overlooked in place of the accents.
@JeanPaulMikkers
@JeanPaulMikkers Ай бұрын
Gary Brooker's "No More Fear of Flying" intro has a nice intro hiccup that always puts me on the wrong foot.
@psifiusc
@psifiusc Ай бұрын
Genesis has a song where the band members have talked about losing track of where "one" is because only Phil Collins didn't find the drum pattern unclear. If I remember right I think it was Man On The Corner.
@MaxLevinton
@MaxLevinton Ай бұрын
oh mannnn, veridis quo gets me EVERY time
@hojowarf6488
@hojowarf6488 Ай бұрын
I hope I didn't comment too late yet again. *Jailhouse Rock* is the grand daddy of all confusing intro songs. You cannot let this series of videos conclude without mentioning it!
@SoleaGalilei
@SoleaGalilei Ай бұрын
I feel the right beat on Veridis Quo from the beginning, but I'm sure that's just because I've heard the song so many times, I can't imagine the drums coming in any other way.
@fb6382
@fb6382 Ай бұрын
the guitar intro of "southern part of texas" by the "War" drives me crazy!! 😂
@Jtmcad14
@Jtmcad14 Ай бұрын
The intro to "Right Now" by Van Halen is quite something. It took me a while to train my brain to feel the correct beat there.
@llll-lk2mm
@llll-lk2mm Ай бұрын
Automatic stop by the strokes!
@MyNameIsNeutron
@MyNameIsNeutron Ай бұрын
In "Morning Mr. Magpie" by Radiohead, I always hear the hi-hat as on the beat when it's actually playing off-beat 16ths. Probably because it's so loud but there's hardly any kick.
@mkaali
@mkaali Ай бұрын
Van Halen Panama is another one. It's so weird, I think even the band themselves didn't know how it went, because the riff and the beat change on the second time around.
@lovelylemonfactory
@lovelylemonfactory Ай бұрын
Yes and it has drums from the start which makes it even more confusing
@XanBcoo
@XanBcoo Ай бұрын
A Real Hero (from Drive) does this. The root note of the first chord the bass synth plays is on the & of 1, which isn't apparent until the drums come in
@PianoVampire
@PianoVampire Ай бұрын
Beetlebum always got me until recently when someone told me it was on the 1, even now I need to retrain my brain it still doesn't sound natural!
@iliketrains3495
@iliketrains3495 Ай бұрын
I was LITERALLY about to suggest Beetlebum right before it came up, the transition when the full band joins has always confused the hell out of me
@PlanetoftheDeaf
@PlanetoftheDeaf Ай бұрын
I've always felt a weird jolt when the drums of Beetlebum kick in, and that explains why 😁
@svcjunior5526
@svcjunior5526 Ай бұрын
OMFG - Ok Also surprising inro :D
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