4 Speed 327 Chevy Nova Buildup and Thrash | Not Rod Ep. 15

Epic... That's the word to describe it. You asked for it and we delivered with our longest, most entertaining episode yet; jam packed with wrenching, racing and burnouts! Beginning with 350 fail, to 327 build, all the way to both 1/8 mile and 1/4 mile drag racing; and for a bonus you even get some Stude action!
For Subscribers that have seen all of our Short videos on the 327 we hope you'll watch the whole episode however to go directly to what you haven't already seen you can skip to 22:30.
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[@darrylcampbell4411]

Awesome vid Guys. PLEASE keep doing these. you guys are so straight to the point. We do this we try that.... We race... we alter this and try again... no pissing around good real watchable videos. Love it. good to see you guys release a good long vid. bring more. yeeeaaaa. From New Zealand.

[@PatandDoopypoopy]

Just a note for your fanbase. Guarding your stripped holes and helicoils. Using studs makes things much gentler on threads. And yes if in a pinch, you can use one stud and the remaining bolts. Of course it's best to use complete sets of one or the other to achieve true equal torque value and load. But sometimes things get over thought, when really an easy solution is available. Love this channel, love the videos, keep it up. Youngest daughter, my next up-and-coming hot-rodder loves his channel

[@NotRodShop]

Having fans like you and your daughter make the whole thing worth it. And thanks for doing your part to raise the next generation in the hobby! Tell your daughter we said Hi and we're blessed to have her watching our show! There's more films on the way.

[@jessedanford9360]

I’m 73 and I never lift the gas off the floor with a 4speed !

[@circletrack7538]

There's nothing wrong with covering all the bases ( referring to the carb change ) ! Again I'm a guy who looks at combinations so you are well within the experimental theme and doing what I would have done in my day !!!! You guys are a refreshing duo !!!

[@derekdeckens2559]

Best Not Rod video yet! Thanks guys!!

[@ericnelson6982]

Very nice job guy's, I can relate to the Nova build. I worked at a salvage yard in my teens and early twenties. I ran a 70 Nova drag car and a 67 Camaro street car. I owned about 170 68-74 Nova's in a 2 year span. I always had a few for sale. I would take all of the nice parts and put together nicer V8 cars. And then put together six cylinder car's and sold them cheap for daily drivers. They all were painted flat black, I bought it by the 5 gallon bucket, I also used some matte clear on the better cars. I sure wish I would have kept a few of them. but that was almost 40 years ago. Keep up the good work and I will keep watching or just keep posting and I'll watch anyway.

[@stanlane5322]

Love the videos, the old school is the cool school

[@joakey77]

I found this channel 2 days ago while looking at third gen Nova's, and have now binge watched every video in order haha. I love all the content guys, keep it up!

[@farmerjim-fat-man-do]

Car is looking and sounding good.👍👍Little tip on fluid filled gauges. When they get warm they read low so don’t crank up fuel pressure trying to compensate. Get a non fluid filled gauge to monitor fuel pressure and install a return style regulator. Regulate after the carbs, Dial in that suspension and you will see that 108 you’re shooting for.

[@BuzzLOLOL]

Toss the 1950's style 'traction bars' and put some slapper bars on it... Add light weight fuel pump pushrod...

[@JaredR1996]

Finally u guys r back. Awesome to see u uploading again

[@elijahfranklin5298]

These videos inspired me to build a 4 speed 78 4 door nova! Not quite as cool but maybe cooler! Love what y'all do!

[@Manholmes]

Never give up!

[@iainmartin2510]

Good effort boys, anything sub 14 on the quarter mile in a budget build is decent. Keep the videos coming.

[@gatorunleashed275]

Great video guys, keep em coming. This is inspiring me to get back out there and hit my Nova in the garage, I'm close to having it done.

[@rong4189]

Finally a nice long video, with lots of drag racing! I’m gonna be ‘that guy’ for a second though, and I’m sure you had the car stable but, torquing the pinion nut while the rear tires were on ramps looked a little sketchy lol! Anyway, hope you have more test and tune videos coming soon! Great job guys!

[@richardsiegfried9423]

Remember Nova guy. It's a Muncie "rock crusher". Which means it's either in or out. You probably didn't have the clutch pressed all the way in. There either in or out but rest assured once there in its go time! Good video

[@kcav5374]

I agree. Straight, honest videos I just wish it wasn't so long between vids...

[@TheKiltedYaksman1]

You should've borrowed, bought, or rented a fabric steamer and steamed the seat foam when you had the original covers off. It's amazing how much life this will give to old seat foam.

[@user-qt2rv1sb8c]

Great vid! You guys are my new inspiration. Mine's a '71 4speed Nova. Back out on the road by springtime!

[@patfromamboy]

I just started watching the first video of yours that I had seen because I wanted to see a Muncie M-22 and I realized you are from Washington state also! I live in Yacolt north of Vancouver. I have 2 66 Chevelles and one has a powerful 427 that really revs and outran a cop. It beats V8 Vegas and LS6 1970 Chevelle SS’s. Anyway, good job on your videos, they are great! I’m a new fan. Keep up the good work. I need motivation for my projects. Thanks

[@Rick-4552]

Your editing skills are really good

[@nailbanger777]

Awesome video boys!

[@mjbray3525]

Awesome, so great to see a long video from you guys. I know they are a lot of work, but they are appreciated!

[@JRC99]

Teflon tape solves all!

[@robertweitlauf4653]

cool video, don't get down you made big improvement. mid 13 in a budget street car is not bad at all. Brandon's Study looks cool, love the gasser look. guys dont worry about what other people think, have a blast with them. your nova is heading for a roll bar.

[@josephnubile1970]

Great video!!!! Time for a fuel pump upgrade, #8 fuel line from tank to carb....

[@MyKARSShop]

It’s been fun to watch the progress on both of these cars. Keep after it.

[@AndyGeesGarage]

Try leaving the line with about 500 more rpm. In the race against the Durango it hooked the front end came up then immediately dropped then came up again a little more rpm should stop that little bobble.

[@jeffjacobsen7106]

i did a 4 speed conversion on my 76 Malibu and found that they make a conversion 32 spline slip yoke and a conversion U joint that pop right in . made it so much easier by re-using my original drive shaft and not having to change the pinion yoke. Just sayin, But anyhow love your channel and wish you guys would do more because its great!!

[@91backinblack]

It’s been fun watching the progress unfold. Keep it up!

[@Dachshund6970]

Love the channel, and great content 👌

[@wakanene1]

Great work love your stuff guys

[@justinsmith847]

I just found this channel love it subscribed really awsome

[@1080sucks]

That was friken great. Keep em coming

[@gianni9782]

This is epic

[@gregchristopher1019]

I have 1975 Nova with a 383 small block motor. I'm a fan of the 327 chevy small block. I have one I should have built quite a while ago. I study your video and I see a few thIngs wrong. 1.a 327 has no torque down low its a rpm motor try 6,000 rpm for your hole shot. 2. The way you shift that 4speed car needs to be upgraded in your shifting technique. Put the gas pedal to the for and keep it there. Learn how to kick the clutch in. Kick the clutch in and slide your foot of the pedal the spring will return the pedal back faster than your leg will. I had to learn how to power shift my 340 duster with 3speed trans. Stock factory motor I would leave the line at 6,000 rpms with street tires or slicks. The rear you have in that nova may not stay together long. You need to spin and burn and move all at same time. You need just enough traction to move the car. 327 torque comes from rpm being on the high side around 6,000rpm. A motor like needs a heavier flywheel 40 or 50lbs to help you leave the hole. 4.56 gear will make that motor scream if you have the right cam in it. Try a one inch spacer or your manifold .I like quadrajet carb if you get the right person to work on it and set it up. Im going to put the time and money to get my car ready to go the track for test and tune. Keep up the good work. Greg Christopher from NJ.

[@chrishansen3012]

Love the nova and the stud I mean studebaker

[@jjmm2523]

keep up the good work, I'm really pulling for you two

[@andrewstoffel1170]

Dampers need looking at.

[@jeanlawson9133]

You can set the linkage with a drill bit...

[@badbusa2]

I thought you guys were gone! Thank goodness 😅

[@gearhead9943]

I would absolutely love to see the bearded guy do cold starts on everything from inside your cars to see the full procedures

[@HereIsRick]

Disappointment? You ran 13's on a cheaply built 327 AND upgraded to a 4 speed. That is awesome.

[@HeadFlowInc]

You have to use a thread sealer that is oil and fuel resistant check out the number 2 gasket maker at your local parts store.

[@jimifed2798]

About shifting timing . An old man that worked for Chrysler told me 5hat the exceptional long throw on the 833a gearbox was done on purpose because the engineers studied average drivers and the found that their hands moved faster then the leg could push the clutch pedal all the way to the floor. So the long throw helped the hand slow down. Has anyone ever heard this before?

[@hydroy1]

Should have spent the bucks to get a pair of Trick flow heads for the hi revin 327. Them 327s don't really get moven until they hit 7,500rpm. Also vacuum 2eds never work for beans. The biggest problem I see is the 2ed to 3ed gear shift, the car hoppin all over the place. I cured that problem with a set of old slapper bars.

[@kcav5374]

While working for Booth-Arons engines in Berkley mi. I recall Wally Booth explaining how they destroked a (if memory serves me) 390-401 cid AMC Pro Stock engine to 377 and maybe even to 343 cid and Still made 700HP ! (remember it was weight to cubic inches back then) So actually you made a good choice.

[@matzrat5006]

Bring it up to Mission Raceway, 20 miles on the other side of Sumas Border. sea level.

[@dannystubblefield5478]

That's an awesome video.

[@IronChief]

On the oil leak, try running a tap in it to remove the chrome plating .

[@danchamberlain6069]

Enjoyed your video ,great editing,not a wasted minute. The shifter problem may be the engine mounts are flexing too much at high rpm.Stay safe and good luck.

[@Saeger81]

I’d love to see the old girl get some fresh metal and remove all that rust from the fenders, it’s a beautiful car

[@chriswells1440]

I've never seen a car bounce like that at the track.. mechanical secondary carbs are better for manual shift. Vac. Secondary are for automatics. Your lean spot is probably the vacuum secondary carburetor. I never use those carbs anymore. Especially if you have a bigger cam with lower vacuum. Or stick shift.

[@LaviniaWhately]

Man, this is so inspiring I might have to take my stock as shit, automatic Saab 93 to the track. XD

[@slowdaze]

Very cool and glad to see a full video again. Why was there so much bouncing in second?

[@NotRodShop]

Would imagine it's got something to do with the standard gas charged shocks, no way to soften the rebound.

[@toddgleeson7997]

I was wondering when you guys were going to post again. It was certainly worth the wait. Great synopsis, editing was very good. Did you get the three wheeler running? I mean you must have, you were racing right!

[@styga1969]

Maybe I missed it. But did you guys check ring gap? I was always told to always put rings in cylinder wall and measure the gap and correct if the gap was too tight.

[@NotRodShop]

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[@dodge4x418]

Remember that the problem your having is why Ronnie Sox only used his fingers on the shifter

[@cdoubleu8719]

Found your channel today. Watched many Nova vids. Great stuff dudes. Keep it up :) Just curious why not change the leaf springs to a much stiffer suspension? Clearly losing a lot of energy there?

[@NotRodShop]

Eventually it's going to go back to being a street car, so it'll be fairly original.

[@jamespepper2541]

Was this a small journal engine? I'm in the process of building a small journal 327 right now 😀😀😀

[@alfredodirks3537]

Kinda wanted to see how much dirt came out of the frame on the Stude

[@NotRodShop]

Came out? It's still there... held in by some new patches...

[@alfredodirks3537]

@@NotRodShop uh... Less weight go faster! Do a flush and fix so it don't fold and take a bad turn mid track!

[@Handlehandlebars]

should play with your total timming a little. might make a big difference

[@user-md7iz6nk1g]

I think this might help two of my buddies had 3rd gen nova's and they were high 13sec cars . We pulled the hood off of one of them that car was way faster and the other one same thing. Pull the hood off it sounds ridiculous but just try it trust me

[@mikehagen3785]

We had this problem with a 440 Challenger... turns out the hood insulation would suck down around the air cleaner and choke it out...True story..

[@ccsV8]

Great!! The ET on 1/8??

[@GJ-DT]

Your car has to go quicker and faster, the combo is too good.

[@chriscatarcio2983]

U need a hurst..super shifter.

[@circletrack7538]

A 350 turbo would never give you those problems !!! Oh well to each their own !!!

[@matzrat5006]

Go down to 10 psi in the slicks

[@leroyll1144]

your biggest problems are your launches out the gate,with wheel hop ,falling flat.major delays on time.but with those high gears,what could you do.solution=turbo 400 w/4:11s??? lol!!

[@circletrack7538]

You need to get fresh air to that motor your chocking it with that under hood air cleaner !!! Get a taller air cleaner cut a hole the size of the air cleaner in the hood and put a good functional hood scoop on that hood !!! Bringing the outside better air in will do wonders for that motor !!! When it rains put a plug in it or DON'T drive it in the rain !!!! On the drag strip take the air cleaner off and put an air pan on it !!!! Poor man's supercharger !!!! That works so good you usually have to jet it up a couple of sizes !! Can pick up as much as 1-2 tenths and 2-3 more mph !!!! I did it with my hi-performance 400 !!! Was running 12.70s put on scoop and air pan on carb with a nice size hole it ran a high 12.72 @ 106.2 mph breaking up !!! Went up 4 jet sizes square ran a 12.54 @ 108.7 mph !!! Also ran more consistent and smooth as glass and purring like a kitten !!!!! Your 14.35 might end up a 14.12 at 97-98 mph by doing That !!!! Traction bars ??? Would love to see it run 13s with simple changes !!!! You definitely need to get some consecutive runs in to experiment and tune it properly !!!! A .480 comp cams hydraulic with lifters solid push rods the right springs increase the exhaust valve size only if 1.94 - 1.50s to 1.60 if stock compression put valve guides and 7/16 screw in studs and 1.6 true roller rockers with poly locks a single plain intake ( a team G ) 2500 - 6500 rpm a 750 dbl pumper and an HEI with 6A MSD Box and a blaster 2 coil 8 mm wires and a 10" pro street converter you would be staring at the 12s !!!!! An excellent affective combination for that particular car !!!! Maybe in the future a 16 gallon fuel cell in the trunk ??? If stock compression 2.02 would actually hurt it but you would make increased with the better exhaust !!!! I raced a 12 second to 9.0 car over a 20 plus years of my life and spent a lot of time helping younger guys learning bigger isn't always better it's the proper combination that works the best according to your particular application !!!! Not trying to tell you what to do just want to give you the easiest and cheapest combo that I know to put it in the 12s without touching the bottom end !!! Maybe a good hi volume oil pump with a 6 qt pan !! I want to see you successful and help you if I can !!!! You have a 72 Nova one of the most popular old school cars of our time !!!!!! I myself played with a 73 Vega and @ 60 years old still remember those challenging and enjoyable accomplishments of wonderful success !!!!! I miss those days but I live them thru you and would want to help you any way I could I!! I wish you tremendous luck on all your horsepower endeavors !!!!!

[@kcb9455]

We’re already in reruns?

[@ajrichards5121]

Hey guys, got a question, how did you mount your gauges in the AC slot , and what’s the part # on the upper radiator hose? The parts professionals at auto zone can’t seem to find one!!!

[@NotRodShop]

Assuming you're talking about the Nova we used zip ties on the gauges - See Episode 1. The hose is 24028L.

[@ponyboywils9950]

Is this a reupload or all the 327 build videos in one video?

[@phonypony5.0]

Both cars need help with suspension badly

[@circletrack7538]

OK this is my 1st time ever seeing you guys ! I love the old school approach you have to this in a regular garage low budget it's awesome for the regular road warrior seeking common sense horsepower !! I do wish though your info on the cars and time slip info was a little more detailed for us/me ??? 60fts. time and mph for the Nova also what rear tires gear ratio shift rpm weight of both cars just some extra details !!! Other then that a very cool channel that I am going to subscribe to !!! Sorry ! I'm a die hard guy for #s and details !! I used to run pro ET for years in the 10 sec area but I'm old and poor so those days are OVER but the #s and combo set ups still run thru my head !!!! You guys are a great fit for what I love in playing with horsepower and different combinations !!!! I'm almost 60 now so the days behind the wheel are all gone so I would love to have plenty of dialogue with you guys signed a new loyal subscriber young fellows !!!!!

[@DANTHETUBEMAN]

You remove a pumper,, you add a boggggg,,

[@c3dk]

The real deal :- )

[@DMR67442]

Just curious what your 3 to 4th gear shift is. As an RPM the motor doesn’t sound as high revved when you go from 3rd to 4th.

[@NotRodShop]

Good ear. It's an M20 so the 3-4 drop is significant, like 40% vs. 20% in the other gears, it's more of a highway trans. An M21/22 would have a better drop in ratios for racing but eventually this thing is going to get highway gears again anyway.

[@DMR67442]

@@NotRodShop I have an M 20 gear ratio trans in my 67 442. But when I did it I put the M 22 auto gear replacement gears in it but with the M20 ratio Irun a 410 rear end in the car. Just for Hahaas maybe you can carry third gear a little higher in RPM. What are you shifting at for RPM?

[@NotRodShop]

3rd normally goes to 6500, I would run all of them to 7000 but it's still got stock rod bolts, kicking myself on that one. If it had ARP rod bolts and a rev limiter I'd power-shift at 7000 all day long.

[@davidhill5621]

I had a .040 flattop 327, 280 comp mag cam , 600 holley, white performance vortec high rise intake, vortec heads t10 4 speed 410 gear ran 12:97 all day long

[@widowmaker4618]

7-9 lbs fuel pressure, 38 degrees timing at 3000 it will wake up

[@franciscohuerta9860]

how much hp ya made with the 327?

[@NotRodShop]

1/4 mile suggests 300HP. Dyno would probably be around 330.

[@franciscohuerta9860]

@@NotRodShop nice show u guys got goin on started watching it today

[@styga1969]

Question for you. Every time you go down the 1/4 .. you seem like your afraid to really get on it. Tach that sum bitch at the line at 6+k … dump that clutch and power shift that tranny!! Lol. Until your teeth chatter!!! Seems like your babying it a little. Drive it like you stole it. Lol. Great vid guys.

[@ricardoflores5555]

Get help from grandma shifting like it should or get an automatic transmission

[@whpower7349]

I mean if u wanted to go fast u whoulda not wasted money building a boat anker and built the 350 and stuck a 400 turbo behind it and dick the leafs and go coil overs and 4 linke and weld the sub connecters u might go fast but that's not fun lol y'all built the bulliet noes right

[@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS]

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[@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS]

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[@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS]

@Thrash Metal Studio I signed up to see ur next stream man! Looks interesting and I'm usually kinda bored on Wednesday night!

[@circletrack7538]

Suggestion get an in-car fuel pressure gauge !! You can get a reading while your going down the track ! So you have an electric pump on the Nova ??? I would suggest a Holley blue pump with a regulator . just FYI !!

[@circletrack7538]

I was lazy !! Only used turbos or glides !!! Would love to know the details of both the Nova and the Studebaker ??? What rear if it has frame connectors stuff like that !!!!! I just love the Nova !!! No interior you can play with it anyway you want it's great !!!!

[@circletrack7538]

4-speeds are inconsistent and horsepower robbers !! M-22s are decent but Thee one to find if your into 4-speeds is a borg-warner super T-10 !!! Good shifters also make a big difference !!! The part I hate MOST about 4 speeds is dealing with and getting The right clutch and spring and pedal combination !!! I myself was a powerglide guy !!!! One shift and a great competition 8 inch converter !!!! If I may suggest in the future putting in a motor and mid-plate in it eliminating the worthless factory motor mounts !!!! No more header interference and chance of your drive train assembly getting bonded up or cracked bell housings !!! Just some FYI !!!

[@NotRodShop]

This car is actually going more in the direction of a street machine but I appreciate your input.

[@circletrack7538]

Are you in the US or Canada ??? Just curious because I was trying to determine what dragstrips you were running .

[@circletrack7538]

I do believe that going down in c.i. does not produce more power ! Maybe more rpm depending on the cam but never a broad power band change !!!! Bigger compression or more airflow may help but cu. in. always out powers cu. in. in most cases !!! A straight 327 will not out power a straight up 350 with same components !!! WON'T happen !!! You have to out build the bigger motor !!!!