4-star QB Garrett Nussmeier commits to LSU | 5-star QB Caleb Williams names Top 3

[@NolaFusionskitchen]

LSU been a national brand now it’s just more popular

[@AFRSaints]

Mr SAKBOI semantics

[@Seal6Sniper]

It's to the point now where LSU is so loaded with talent I don't think they have room for average players anymore.

[@AFRSaints]

Seal-ed truth. It’s why they have so few commits right now. They have the luxury of being selective.

[@Seal6Sniper]

@@AFRSaints Its a nice problem to have for sure.

[@clarencewalder2985]

Sometimes average is better than what u think

[@hockeylax0115]

Ye but Nuss isn’t just average

[@rayscreen5052]

They’re learning to slow down from what happened lastnight, whatever happened with Major Burns, gave him to Georgia, elite potential.. And then one of the best wrs in the country leaves you last min for Georgia, and the other #1 guy leaves you for Maryland.. They made some mistakes last cycle, hopefully they learn from it. Whatever it was, those commits felt the need to leave.

[@TheMrAdamStoy]

Absolutely love this pickup honestly. We have been trending away from Caleb since his OU visit and it seems far fetched that we would land him anyway. And Garrett is no slouch either. Kid has an absolute cannon for an arm and already has undeniably great decision making for his age. Once he gets honed in, he will be slinging it at the college level, no doubt in my mind. At the end of the day, we need to just trust what Coach O and the staff are doing.

[@MrBigBoy4Life]

If Caleb doesn’t commit to LSU I’m good. His other two choices are outside of the SEC anyway.

[@Mr.Consitution]

Player's = High Character = Wants to play/committed to LSU more than anyone else

[@mrlsujackson1177]

Arch Manning says hold my beer will probably be the best QB prospect ever!! Geaux tigers

[@bradrolling8637]

Mr.Jackson LSU, I saw films of Arch last year and you're right!, hold my beer and I'll show you how it's done

[@AFRSaints]

Mr LSU jackson You banking on a Manning coming to LSU?

[@mrlsujackson1177]

Yes I believe he will Ed O will be legendary at LSU I feel we have to win one more championship tho before he raises an eyebrow towards baton rouge I feel LSU can win one with Breenen !! Then Arch will be convinced.

[@mrlsujackson1177]

Btw can u do a episode about him an his talent an wat he would mean to a offensive system like LSU's thanks in advance be safe much respect!

[@Vagaberry]

After Further Review stop it! Don’t do this to me... he’s coming lol

[@christiangannon1118]

Well, if young Caleb wants to win anything of import, he chooses LSU. If we wants to throw the ball all over the field, pile up big, gaudy stats, and not win anything more than the Big 12 title, then, yeah, Oklahoma. Just recall the score in the Tigers-Sooners semi-final last year if you need any proof.

[@BHanson1998]

Great breakdown on the recruitment history of the qb position

[@AFRSaints]

Brandon Hanson thanks! It’s been a topic we’ve discussed a lot over the years. Hope they’re finally breaking that cycle.

[@MasterPeace12]

Glad you didn't speak too much on my brother. Perrilloux. Much respect man.

[@AFRSaints]

ray wilson I like Ryan a lot. He’s a good dude that did some immature things while he was in BR. I’m sure both sides wish it had worked out differently.

[@cross_fire_]

In my opinion, Nuss is one of the best qbs in high school. I think he's better than Caleb Williams. Both are elite. Caleb is more of a runner while Nuss has similar skill set to Burrow. I'm not saying he's got it in between the ears like Burrow, I'm just saying they are similar in athletic traits only. Nuss is shorter but has better arm strength.

[@AFRSaints]

Daniel Crosser Burrow is taller without the big arm. I think their background as coaches kids makes them similar in makeup though.

[@theblackdog2399]

I'm not surprised in the least that elite QBs are far more willing to commit to LSU. As LSU fired the primary reason why LSU never could attract decent QBs when they fired Les Miles. Hell, I would never have let my own kid commit to LSU if he was a QB and Les Miles was still the head football coach. As he would have inevitably ruined his career.

[@davidterry4152]

That my good friend is the absolute truth . Miles is not the coach people thinks he is. That championship he won was all Sabans picks.

[@chewbaccamcgrath5576]

Russel Shepard was a top, dual-thread QB too. I'll take Garrett...

[@wrucker97]

That literally means nothing lol, they’re both very good QB’s (Nuss and Williams) Williams is a much better passer than Sheppard ever was and will be a hell of a college QB wherever he ends up.

[@AFRSaints]

William Rucker true. Shep was never gonna play QB at LSU

[@pharrell5334]

LSU did not have the offense to play Shepard at QB

[@pharrell5334]

Shep went undrafted and still has a career in the NFL at a position that he was just starting to learn in college. Les did not have the offensive mind for players like Shepard help and Trendon.

[@Seal6Sniper]

@@pharrell5334 Bingo.

[@davidterry4152]

That's to different types of players . One a passing ,and the other a runner. If they can get both take the runner and make him a back or a wide receiver.

[@kgiese9]

Yeah, at this point I’m not well enough informed on Caleb Williams to say he is better or worse than Nussmeier, but I have to trust enough that a guy like Scott Linehan and a guy like Ensminger can evaluate the QB spot better than a 247 composite score, at least as it relates to the offense LSU runs now. And I like that LSU is getting guys who are clearly gifted ball players but also have minds that have been developed by elite level football players and coaches. Max Johnson’s rather quiet, unwavering commitment to LSU is exactly what I want to see. Kid has no desire for attention. He’s just a measly 4 star recruit, you know, just a 90.9 on the 247 Composite scale that Moscona thinks is so important, just the number 10 Pro Style QB in the nation... You know. What Moscona might call “not bad.” (Sarcasm off now) And he commits to LSU in NOVEMBER OF 2018. Never wavers. Didn’t go to his home state school. Didn’t go to his dad’s alma mater. Didn’t go to his uncle’s then school. Didn’t even blink. Now LSU gets Nussmeier. Similar pedigree. Guys, if you land QBs that are sons of NFL QBs and QB coaches, they’ll come in as prepared as any player in the country. And they understand what commitment to the craft means. I’ll take a Nussmeier now over a Williams later knowing all that.

[@darien4498]

I think we’re out on Caleb Williams

[@AFRSaints]

darien4498 Safe to say LSU is not in the lead but a lot can change between now and December

[@terrymcdon7600]

After Further Review I understand we can get Caleb but if I’m being honest I’m not a fan of his game. He isn’t a great thrower and he relies on his running ability, and it’s not like he is a Lamar Jackson type athlete. After watching his film I really don’t see how he is a top 10 player. Feels like a reach by recruiting guys to me🤷‍♂️

[@Seal6Sniper]

@@AFRSaints Volume is much better on this one. Your content is really awesome. I like your logic analysis too.

[@ExcaliberHD]

Terry Mcdon If you really think he’s not a top 10 player in the country then you haven’t watched enough of his tape

[@terrymcdon7600]

ExcaliberHD I have, but all I’m saying is I’d rather nuss because of his arm talent. Watch Caleb’s film and look for timing routes and middle routes... there aren’t many of them. He only has deep balls which don’t mean much to me in film. I’m not calling the guy a bum but I just don’t think he is at the level of a Trevor Lawrence, Tua, or DJ U coming out of high school. Go watch the KZbin video of Caleb throwing at the LSU camp. It’s horrid, but obviously he’s never thrown to those receivers before, but still.

[@extendedfilmproject6789]

QBU on the prowl. LSU building a dynasty!!

[@AFRSaints]

Extended Film Project if Brennan has a big year, it’s on

[@smokey689]

Who is qbu it isnt lsu!! Ou is qbu an its not even close!

[@AFRSaints]

john brodel 63-28

[@erosennin211]

@@AFRSaints All due respect but that really isn't a rebuttal to his claim. Not to take anything away from Joe Burrow's absolutely historic 2019 season but he's the first LSU QB since Matt Flynn back in 2007 to do anything of note in CFB, meanwhile OU just became the first university to pump out 3 QBs taken Rounds 2 or higher of the NFL draft in 3 consecutive years during the common draft era, including 2 Heisman trophy winning #1 picks. I mean if you extend it back a bit you could even include Sam Bradford to that list. If there is an objective standard for being "QBU" I'm pretty sure OU would reach it.

[@itspokernotpitypat4619]

Justin Rogers too.

[@clydeparker7423]

I think LSU wanted Dak to play tight end.

[@timcastens1150]

Clyde Parker that probably would have been a good position for him because Mullin said he didn't throw the ball well when he got there. He's an elite competitor but not a passer

[@tonytemple1625]

Les Miles would want Burrow to play WR.

[@kevinparker2068]

@@tonytemple1625 You're absurd. At 6'4" and those feet he had LT written all over him.

[@mikeytodd7]

@@kevinparker2068 lol

[@timcastens1150]

Tony Temple or be behind Etling 😂

[@traycooper9127]

I'd take both of em to add to the qb room only gonna have 2 once Myles leaves

[@AFRSaints]

Tray Cooper you absolutely take both if both want to sign.

[@patrickdevers7372]

What about sabans loyalty to starting quarterbacks?

[@patrickdevers7372]

I don't know what city you are from but to the last 30 years comment; 1) Running backs and wide receivers in high school are the best athletes. 2) Quarterback is usually politics. 3) Many running backs and wide receivers could play quarterbacks. More so on Ravens quarterback style as opposed to traditional pocket QB. 4) It is not the State of Louisiana. It is not the players. Coaches know the "one". They often have sons, cousins, or political/economic factors at play.

[@AFRSaints]

Patrick Devers I live in BR and spent a decade calling HS football games. I’d say I have a pretty good handle on the situation talking to coaches who have lived this the past 30 years b

[@mroberts453]

Eddie -O, best recruiter in the game.

[@rayscreen5052]

I understand you have bias, but don’t be silly.

[@mroberts453]

@@rayscreen5052 true I do have a bias but Coach O has a track record of being a very, very good recruiter. He recruited for USC in their heyday and Pete Carroll has even said on record that Coach O was the guy who landed all those future pros. The guy is as good as they come. I'll take him all day long.

[@rayscreen5052]

I think he’s a good recruiter but if he was the best in the game or an elite recruiter he wouldn’t of let play maker / high potential major burns go to Georgia, (for whatever reason, maybe they wanted somebody else) but directly after that one of the best WRs in the cycle Burton left (a hard commit) for Georgia, AND the #1 WR left for Maryland.. Those were big loses / mistakes in the end that cost them, idk if they got cocky based on the season they were having, but something caused those guys to leave during a record winning season. He’s a good recruiter that is operating out of a big premier program that should work in his favor, far from the best. I watched every LSU game last season, what he and the team did was historical.

[@INoticeTooMuch1]

@Ray Screen those two receivers de committed bc they didn’t want to compete/ wait for a starting job. We also got a 5 star Boutte at WR, and 4 stars Koy Moore and Alex Adams in the class. Those guys didn’t want to hear that they weren’t going to be starting Year 1 or 2 so they left, why would we want guys who don’t want to put the team first? And lmao Major burns? Yeah dude was good but we already got the #5 S in the country to add to a loaded DB room (he was #13) Vincent, Stevens, Harris, Mo Hampton and like 3 or 4 guys adding depth. Safety wasn’t a priority last recruiting cycle bc we had needs elsewhere.

[@rayscreen5052]

clippy dippy yeah I agree that was one of the reasons for the decommits, I also told my buddy who’s an LSU fanboy that you’d 100% see wrs leave bc that reason alone.. It’s not that they’re not team players, they’re just trying to play sooner and not have to wait around in a loader wr room. Those 2 are both guys that can play anywhere day 1 though, they were the best wrs in that class and you’ll see that in their careers. I just didn’t think they’d lose 2 and specially those 2 guys. You’re right about burns, not a big decommit. We’re really gonna see how elite coach O is with those big loses, Brady a 1 & done, and changing up the style of the offense slightly with a 1st year pocket guy like brennon. But brennon could have a huge year too, it’s definitely possible.

[@kevinparker2068]

Mid 60s to mid 70s Shreveport area put out elite QB talent. What happened? Prather, Bradshaw, Ferguson, Jones, Woodley and they said Vida Blue was the best of them all. I know I'm leaving a few out (Humphries was in 83... then you get into the Evangel kids).

[@AFRSaints]

Kevin Parker population shifts. Coaching changes. Different eras. “What changed” is a really good question. Not exactly sure. But what is certain is La doesn’t produce elite QB talent.

[@nhodges33]

Sometimes 4 Star QBs are better than 5 Star QBs... or like Tom Brady drafted at 199 and wins 6 SBs. Take the bird in hand..

[@sonsoftheedelweiss72]

Nolan Hodges that so true in a lot of college sports!

[@tobyihli9470]

Agreed.

[@charleswatson2934]

Burrow was a 3 star Recruit!

[@jarredgage]

Matt, Did Garret commit immediately after Caleb announced his top 3? I’m guessing so. I would imagine that would push Caleb to OU.

[@alan.s5773]

1 bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush.

[@AFRSaints]

The Way Ministry yep!

[@JBoat52]

Jennings wasn’t bad. Just wasn’t the right system for him.

[@AFRSaints]

Joshua B. Nah, he was bad. Went to ULL ...and was bad

[@scott2864]

Yea Jennings was bad

[@haydenkyle8884]

bruh he was baaaaad

[@nicholasrichard5538]

I agree Louisiana isn't known for throwing out QBs but, man do we know how to play defense, what's the count on our elite defenders?

[@tobyihli9470]

Now we get to learn what makes these top draft recruits tic. 4 Star Garrett committed hoping to block 5 star Caleb. That’s just going to cause Caleb to take a better look at LSU. IF Caleb commits to LSU, I think Garrett will bounce. Frankly, I don’t think there’s enough difference between a 5 star and a 4 star. It’s just a bunch of men guessing. Not enough to worry. What, do you think a team of all 5 star players is automatically gonna beat a team of all 4 star? Not on your life. They got 60 minutes of football they gotta play, and it is football you know! All we ever heard about was Tua of Alabama this, and Tua that. Tua got his hat handed to him. That’s all I got to say.

[@kadektv4159]

Y’all gotta remember Alabama didn’t have a bunch of quarterbacks until now also

[@johnbar9295]

Maryland his home school .I get that. But will it further his career? Oklahoma will prolly always have a chance to get to playoffs. But move past that? Seems unlikely. Lsu on the other hand. Likely

[@theItalianshamrock]

Imagine if he goes to Maryland and they become a powerhouse...

[@bmseven2191]

In that scenario, I believe Maryland would be a disruptive team, capable of beating the conferences blue bloods if they fail to bring their A game but Maryland could never finish a season with a better record than Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Iowa, or Wisconsin.

[@jonwmeyer11]

I 100% thought Dak was better when I watched his tape. Les had zero eye for QB's. He wanted him as a fullback. In my opinion also, Nussmeier is just as good as Williams. Especially when he grows into his frame. And my prediction. Tennessee is playing dirty right now.

[@erics2739]

War eagle 🦅 but respect, better you than Georgia

[@dbu7151]

Nuss can spin it

[@AFRSaints]

Bayou Bengal7 Definitely pumped for this commitment

[@cross_fire_]

I've always wanted him over everyone else. I've watched all the film that is out there on the qbs LSU is recruiting. I think Williams will go to Oklahoma and he will be good too.

[@dbu7151]

@@cross_fire_ He is very underrated

[@cross_fire_]

@@dbu7151 I think you'll see him either get a 5th star or be really close. His film is really good.

[@dbu7151]

@@cross_fire_ Agreed

[@WillBurton108]

How good of friends are Linehan and Gus’ dad? Know they have both been with the Cowboys.

[@AFRSaints]

Will Burton Linehan coached Doug Nussmeier at Idaho

[@donnieincebu9132]

tell Gordy I says Hello

[@sonsoftheedelweiss72]

What makes Williams a 5 star and Nussmier a 4 star? Arm strength: speed;

[@bmseven2191]

I actually think Nussmeier is an excellent fit for this offense. He may even move up in the rankings during his senior season.

[@abgbdwlf]

Shea Patterson

[@carlwilliams6238]

I wonder how this goes now, that we promised him that we wouldn't take no other Qb b4 he commits

[@AFRSaints]

carl Williams I doubt seriously that promise was made.

[@carlwilliams6238]

@@AFRSaints imma go search for that article and date..I read it was LSU and uga that put that commitment out there to him and ga flopped early on it thats why they were taken off his list early this year.

[@Redboy533]

Well JaMarcus Russell Rohan Davey Tommy Hodson all ended in the NFL

[@craven1927]

So did Matt Flynn, Josh Booty, Zach Mettenberger and Danny Etling. The problem is none of them ever panned out and had any real success in the NFL. Recruits notice things like that.

[@AFRSaints]

peanut Nola504 chief As much as I love all 3 guys, a 17 year-old QB has no idea who Tommy Hodson or Rohan Davey is. They know Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray though. And now they know Joe Burrow. Also, if the 3 you mentioned, only Hodson was from La.

[@timthomas568]

An I heard les miles said dak would make a good full back...smh

[@AFRSaints]

tim thomas Think he wanted him at TE but the point remains

[@CHardy-ht4sm]

Bird in the hand on this one

[@AFRSaints]

Chad Hardy yep! Not sure if you had time to watch the video but that’s the exact saying I used. So true

[@pabloflexcobar7342]

If he wants to win he goes to LSU it’s that simple!

[@AFRSaints]

fuccwitmeuknowigotit we’ll find out tomorrow

[@kadektv4159]

Why would Caleb even go to Oklahoma he won’t start of spencer rattler...

[@timcastens1150]

bird in hand, that guy will probably stay close to home

[@donnieincebu9132]

geaux Matt geaux ! aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[@garlandvincent3742]

Mannings

[@garlandvincent3742]

Peyton and elli manning are from.louisiana and their nephew is going to be better

[@AFRSaints]

garland vincent So basically one player every 30 years? Not great odds. There are exceptions to every rule. Fact is Louisiana doesn’t regularly produce elite QBs.

[@garlandvincent3742]

No I was saying you conveniently forgot to mention their names as QB from Louisiana or was it intentional

[@jesselancaster7]

Glad Travis Etienne did not come to LSU he annoying

[@AFRSaints]

Jesse Lancaster And by “annoying” you mean exceptionally talented?

[@jesselancaster7]

@@AFRSaints basically🤣🤣🤣