400+ FPS Tokyo Marui MWS? PDI, Laylax, Lambda (Comparison)(FPS test)

[@DanFridland]

Hey, you were awesome dude, the best review I saw you must make a video for upgrades for the MWS too

[@Jonytofu]

Best video I've seen on this topic so far! Would be helpful if we could see and compare measurements from a completely stock MWS with a stock barrel (essentially a control experiment) so we could estimate differences. Because my stock MWS chrono'd at 340 FPS with 0.2 g so it's a completely different starting baseline.

[@pingu.0211]

What’s your ambient? Most mws are going to do 310-330 with 70f ambient. So it’s fairly redundant. (The raven barrel only gave a 5-10 fps boost over stock)

[@Jonytofu]

@@pingu.0211 Thanks for your response. It was hot when I chrono'd, probably around 77f, so perhaps a reference is redundant. Looking at your results with the stock bolt and 0.2g across different barrel lengths/bores, it doesn't look like there is a significant difference in FPS compared to stock...so maybe the valve would be the way to go for people looking to increase FPS in a stock MWS

[@alexdecierto4356]

Can’t wait to see you guys at Gamepod again!

[@pingu.0211]

This Sunday!

[@pspmaster510]

I found that getting pdi directly from Japan, it's much cheaper than lambda. Plus, the yens value is going down, which brings the price down even more.

[@pingu.0211]

Absolutely, I was surprised as well. Only trouble is trying to figure out how to use the xfire site!!! That in itself could need a tutorial.

[@pspmaster510]

@@pingu.0211 All you need to do is place the order, then you'll receive an email with the order number/receipt. In the email, there will be a paypal account email address that you'll use to send the money just be sure to add the order number.

[@dominikdeluga5268]

Fantastic video! Thank you so much!

[@pingu.0211]

Thanks for Watching!

[@kevinzimmer9815]

Thank you so much for this research! 🙏

[@joecardoso8735]

good video, good recommendations

[@peter11256]

That's awesome mate, I wish there were more reviews like this one, really good stuff! That consistency with lambda 425 / .32 and the Ice Pick though... that's AEG level. May I ask some questions about these tests ? - Did you set the hop for each BB weight or just ran with not hop ? - Do you notice higher gas consumption with the Ice Pick Valve ? - About MWS mags in general, have you noticed FPS variance between them? That's something I'm struggling a bit with my VFC mags. Keep the good stuff rolling mate🤘

[@pingu.0211]

Thanks! Appreciate it! Wish there was more technical info out there as well. So decided to pick up the camera myself to try to help the problem. - No changes to hop were made, so there will be variance in the FPS when hop is adjusted - Yes, slightly more cooling effect, but largely did not impact function to a major degree (Maybe less shots per mag, or poor cold weather performance. But under normal conditions, very functional) - Yes, Largely my mags have been consistent, but some newer mags seems to be a little hotter (10 fps or so). Luckily, normal operation has been pretty consistent though. MWS over all other platforms seem to deal with variance much better than most. Leading to them being less temperamental

[@SpartanAirsoftNY]

Why this gem of a video I just found out like just now. Also my MWS not holding mag after like 50 fills with propane. So after clear out the air inside the magazine and do a Green Gas mod. The mag can hold more gas than usual for colder weather.

[@pingu.0211]

Thanks for watching!

[@redrocketz1513]

Good info!

[@diverspudph]

Super! Thanks for this! Seems like it's the Ice Pick that accounts for the biggest increase in FPS? I also may have missed it, but were you using green gas or hfc 143a for the chrono tests?

[@pingu.0211]

Green Gas/Propane! And yes, the valve will be the biggest FPS booster by far. PDI barrels SUS 304 6.01mm barrels seem to give more of an FPS boost as well.

[@diverspudph]

@@pingu.0211 Thank you for this! Appreciate it!

[@SJkopa]

Fantastic Lambda 425mm 6.05mm Inner Barrel

[@kasanei401]

Keep up the good work! I just installed an ice pick valve, and it’s doing 10 inch groups at 100 yards. However, I’m running into what looks like double feeding on full auto. I’ll fire 2 or 3 rounds and then after that, bbs will start rolling out of the barrel. I’ve got a 370mm laylax barrel, laylax hop arm, upgraded nozzle return spring, and some washers in the buffer tube to prevent overtravel. There is a little but of bolt bounce, but it seems like the nozzle is maintaining its seal regardless so I’m at a loss for what to do. If I can’t have full auto, it’s fine since it’s a DMR, but it would be nice to have. Any ideas?

[@Nguyernilova]

Awesome video! Would you rather have the pdi 6.01 or Layla 6.03 250mm?

[@pingu.0211]

I don’t know laylax makes a 250mm mws cut barrel. But either way, I think the PDI sus 304 barrel is probably the best bang for your buck

ty!

[@matthewspencer2837]

The laylax barrels are easily the best 'bang for buck' barrels out there imo. I use them in all my builds now

[@pingu.0211]

Pdi ain’t half bad either if xfire ships to your country!

[@BrownieAirsoft]

Definitely one of the most informative videos on the MWS and props to you for that. Though I am wondering if you tighten the barrel nut enough on each build? My MWS has a Prommy 6.03 363mm inner (not the best, but fairly decent), ML 50 degree autobot, and SP chamber+nub and is hitting 410-420 with .2g. The bolt/nozzle assembly is stock except for a 150% spring set and the last chrono was Friday, just under 60f

[@Fyuil280]

Really informative video! Just one question though, with the poseidon ice pick jacking up FPS significantly, would you say there are any concerns with the nozzle (or any components of the bolt for that matter) blowing out? I would imagine you would want to upgrade the nozzle return spring but anything else?

[@pingu.0211]

No upgrades necessary from my findings. You may want to replace the plastic buffer on hot days, but it should be mostly fine!

[@Fyuil280]

@@pingu.0211 cheers man!

[@tareboda-3436]

Hi there ... I would only like to ask if you may have some tips for how to increase FPS on gas M4A1 cal. 5.56mm Tokyo Marui...? Thank you ...

[@sheepmasterrace]

I can’t decide between the laylax and the pdi. Does compatibility matter? (laylax hop arm and autobot 60 degree bucking) PDI also offers a widebore 6.15mm. what about that barrel?

[@pingu.0211]

Personally, I use the PDI. But you’re splitting hairs. I would get what’s available and in the length that you want. Wide bores are generally not advisable. There’s a few videos out by smarter people than me. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGLQcnaBhJiEh80

[@sheepmasterrace]

@@pingu.0211 I ended up picking the 6.08 PDI. thanks for the help! I do have another question though. If i want to use aftermarket handguards and stocks, do I need to modify the gun? I've heard of adapters, but i cannot find them anywhere. Any advice?

[@evanphulps7580]

Idk if you still see these but what do you think about the Unicorn Airsoft barrel?

[@pingu.0211]

It’s alright. Dynatec Industries started selling PDI barrels in the US. So I’ve been using PDI primarily now

[@dominikdeluga5268]

Was the top 1 a block1 originally or the m4a1?

[@pingu.0211]

Both started Life as an M4A1 (Carbine and Sopmod)

[@idkwhatnametouse4510]

Would a 510mm inner barrel work for this MWS For a DMR build

[@MrTarheel1999]

Hey! Thank you for the videos, they are fantastic. I would like to get my MK18 up to around 1.5J…according to your video with .32, it’s around 1.6+ Joules…can you alter that? Factory nozzle is only about 1.2…any suggestions to hit that sweet spot for MilSim?

[@pingu.0211]

Each MWS is going to play differently, so Id recommend doing your own testing, that being said, I wouldn't chase Joules too much. You can play with Different gases and nozzles, but you won't ever hit a consistent 1.5j in all conditions, just not possible with Gas guns due to temperature. I would try getting a Guns modify nozzle, and testing weights and gases first. But stay around 1.5j at 90F at max. Or have winter and summer setups.

[@MrTarheel1999]

Thanks bud, you’re probably right, chasing joules is just numbers. Ultimately I want the performance of being able to reach out to 180-200’ with a .32 or .40. I’ll mess with it…I think the hop up arm I got will help a lot.

[@pingu.0211]

@@MrTarheel1999 .32 stock gun (new bucking and arm) no wind can hit 200 ft headshots all day at 1.3J roughly. .43’s at 1.5j can stretch that out to 300 ft with light winds. So you should still be good to go

[@MrTarheel1999]

@@pingu.0211 I bought the MK18 so I’m gonna have my work cut out for me removing the ris rail, but I’ll get it done and put a new arm on. Is there a bucking you like? I had heard that the stock was excellent, but I’m open to other opinions.

[@pingu.0211]

@@MrTarheel1999 I use PDI W hold mostly, but I also run anywhere from .25 to .32g depending on the field. The Stock bucking wasn't able to take those higher ranges. but you could do .25g and keep the gun completely stock.

[@bfoust3488]

I have not been able to find the ice pick valve anywhere lol 🤬

[@pingu.0211]

Looks like JK army has it. But there’s definitely a ton of options out there. I might suggest testing out an Npas if you want over 380 FPS. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqOxcmWde6yrjrMsi=OFnU7V_Jhqb_KPUW

[@peleggold26]

what magazines were you using?

[@pingu.0211]

Stock stanag mags

[@peleggold26]

@@pingu.0211 is there any resources to show the installation of the ice pick valve because i couldn’t find any

[@pingu.0211]

@@peleggold26 Yep, Just do this and take 1 extra step in dumping out the flute valve kzbin.info/www/bejne/anTanKZuadOFqJY&ab_channel=Pingu.0211

[@mattworley7043]

What length is the top guns handguard?

[@pingu.0211]

13.5"

[@mattworley7043]

@@pingu.0211 the smaller one is 13.5? 😂

[@pingu.0211]

@@mattworley7043 oops i need to rewatch my own video. Thats 10.5"

[@pingu.0211]

Thanks for watching! Leave a like and a comment if this was helpful or you'd like to see more content like this! Full Review up now! kzbin.info/www/bejne/j32xZ4GjqdF1gMU

[@Bosco_HK]

How about what hop up chamber & hop up bucking do u recommend?🙏🏻🙇🏻‍♂️

[@pingu.0211]

Already made a video on this! kzbin.info/www/bejne/j32xZ4GjqdF1gMU

[@Bosco_HK]

@@pingu.0211 ❤️

[@northernairsoft]

What bucking you using?

[@pingu.0211]

A couple. The main one is 70 degree PDI w hold and MR hop silicon yellow (.4 and heavier)