4000 HP Cummins on the Dyno

Power Driven Diesel brought the heat to the ATS Diesel Gauntlet Dyno Challenge with 2 trucks over 1000 HP and the Godfather surpassing the 2000 HP mark! As always, there's as much trouble getting to the event as the event itself. If you're looking for some twin turbo wire fire gang action, like to see big single turbos make power, or want to witness the fueling supremacy of a mechanical injection triple turbo Cummins, tune into this episode.
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[@jasontruman1215]

All hail the 12v mechanical dinosaur named GODFATHER!!!!!

[@consaka1]

I'd be happy to find a 12v that just put out 600hp for my Tow rig. Probably be a bit more of a reliable workhorse than the worn-out 6.5 that's in there now.

[@chrishansen7004]

4x4Scout way more powerful than that turd excuse of a Diesel engine too

[@optimalxrecovery3308]

That close in to dollar shave club ad was BRILLIANT!

[@bcbloc02]

Just a tip, if you want to avoid problems with the crank bolts next you need a thicker flexplate. I welded a double center in the puller because the thin flex plate wanted to knife shear the crank bolts once we went to 12bolt and quit breaking them. Those diamond impregnated washers are important too. I would have borrowed a mig welder and welded the TC to the flex plate thru the holes just to get it to pull off the dyno and get the win.

[@madmodifier]

@ PowerDrivenDiesel FYI this gentleman is a machinist and does work on diesel pulling tractors. Might be a good person to take advice from imho.

[@supercharged2414]

Never in my life did I expect to see 2000 plus horsepower out of a Cummins 12V diesel. You guys are setting new records with your amazing efforts and always strive for more. Always waitin for your next video.

[@woodey028]

Love you guys and most of all your attitude and commitment to your fans. Way to go men.

[@RadDadisRad]

I love this channel, you guys do an awesome job whether you’re in first or last you show your success and failures. That takes a lot of guts.

[@bernhard8540]

Ahh music to my ears hahaha love the sound of any cummins engine when the turbos kick in and it just starts screaming❤

[@paullane7489]

Congrats guys! Couldn’t happen to a better group of guy! That’s awesome!

[@colinlawrence2186]

You guys are awesome I really admire your positive attitude you always have a smile your channel is the very best on the internet 🙋‍♂️🇬🇧

[@gafrers]

Great to see another video. Absolutely great humor and content.

[@Cumminsproject01]

I just wana say i love these videos i could sit and listen to you guys talk about trucks for hours always look forward to these keep it up! Oh ya keep killing it with the 12v you guys are legends.

[@Friend_of_the_One-Eyed_Ladies]

You guys are downright entertaining. The worst days make the best stories.

[@blownvnv6637]

Grade 8 hardware is for stock vehicles and this isn't the first time I've seen them fail on flywheels/flex plates.

[@TheFiremanJoe]

Can’t wait to see what The Godfather can do, when it holds together........

[@BobbyB910]

Dont hold your breath lol been waiting years now

[@brentallen4512]

Could you machine the torque converter cover to accept 3/4" bolt and mill larger holes in the billet flex plate? More surface area for loctite and stronger bolts. Win win.

[@clancytaylor7714]

Awesome video guys. The part about the dollars shave club was hilarious

[@derekschmucker1609]

Yeah that was quality 😂

[@white24valve]

Thank you guys for taking time to make videos

[@justinprice9590]

If that P-PUMP breaks 3000hp it's gona break a lot of hearts, if I have said it once I have said it a hundered times 12 valve is hear for a good time not along time

[@aidenhodges9866]

Justin Price Most of the super stock diesel pulling trucks are 12 valves with sigma p pumps. They’re over 3100hp with twin and triple turbo setups

[@justinprice9590]

All I can say is that master shredder isnt gona be happy when it happens lol

[@aidenhodges9866]

Justin Price For sure🤘🏼

[@LoganFK]

It will, 1300 cc’s will get 3000 wheel horsepower if not more

[@coalstang]

i friken love that 2030 pull. love the look on people’s faces and the crowds response!! imagine what it could have hit! can’t wait to see this years accomplishments.

[@xxx_codgod_xxxcod2755]

I love the little 12 bolt converter rant at 2:55 you know a guy has worked on trucks a lot to have that strong of an opinion on something 😂😂

[@levi5.9]

I wonder if there is a way to dowel half the holes on a twelve bolt converter to make install faster by also lining it up going in?

[@ryanburbridge]

Levi Marquez there is absolutely a way to do that. But...

[@levi5.9]

@@ryanburbridge I just wonder if it would be cost effective

[@ryanburbridge]

Levi Marquez it would definitely add some strength in shear but from the sound of it they have the torque converters they like and that’s that. But i agree... 6 bolts for clamping and six dowels for shear sounds cool.

[@levi5.9]

@@ryanburbridge sounds pretty quick for install the dowels would be just like a lineup tool

[@TreYay83]

Just run 6 in the 12 bolt. That way you can still push it, still sheer the bolts. But have 6 more holes to re bolt it back together and get it off the dyno!

[@glennhobbs59]

I’d try to make some custom head studs into tq converter bolts

[@MaxCaissie]

Idk if that would would since head studs are meant to take tensile force and not sheering force

[@glennhobbs59]

Max ya it was just a thought need something stronger that can take a side load and hold the forces against the hardware

[@thomaskiger6960]

Need to safety wire them

[@ericmillier6652]

Fun video to watch. Felt like I was there. The look on those guys face after the good dyno run inside was great! Keep it up mechanical mafia!

[@jaredfarney675]

Oh man, when she lit off boys!😱🔥😎👍🏻👌🏻 worth the wait.

[@jakes_lbz]

We need more dyno videos. I can't get enough of that truck at full power

[@jakes_lbz]

@@pddofficial I voted Josh into the diesel power challenge hope he makes it

[@billystanat5939]

Aerospace Grade fasteners and 0.032” lock-wiring I think would be essential with so much torque/horsepower. There’s a reason why Jet Engines have lock-wire everywhere. Great vids and channel!!! Love you guys!!! I love my 2005 5.9 Cummins!!!! Would love to visit your shop sometime!!! Billy from CT

[@73cjproject]

Thanks for sharing the ups and downs of the event for the whole crew. High performance racing is full of all of it, glad to see you guys persevere through it. Enjoy seeing the firewire vs mechanical mafia show. Competition makes everyone better. Hope the fix for Frankenstein is an easy one. What do you plan to do about the converter bolts?

[@matrixssc2]

Probably the best way to prevent bolts from shearing off -> bigger bolts or a custom flex plate and converter that are keyed together

[@chloehennessey6813]

matrixssc2 I’d be up for machining a custom flex plate for them out of Inconel or titanium. I’d do like you said and machine in some key ways and use titanium for the keys as well.

[@matrixssc2]

@@chloehennessey6813 ideally the flex plate and keys would be one piece. Think splines on the outside of the torque converter and inside the flexplate .. Also, those metal are excessive as most SFI flexplates are steel

[@chloehennessey6813]

matrixssc2 Thanks didn’t know that. I’m just basing what id machine off what metals we have here and what we normally machine for the aerospace industry. I just figured if the metals are good enough for say RocketDyne they should be okay in a truck?

[@woos31]

Omg that's sick!!!! Way to go guys, with all 3 wagons!

[@CumminsWorks]

Thanks Boss!

[@woos31]

@@CumminsWorks yessir, you guys have put in a lot of work for hitting those numbers

[@joeyburch6626]

I'm thinkin I'd choose to put another 6 bolts in vs having to deal with constant bullshit. But I'm also a common rail guy... to each his own

[@Zach-ju5vi]

Lol I was thinking the same thing.

[@user-un1sh8xh5v]

I love how everyone was flabbergasted on the second run🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@2eyedjack433]

Wow! That was CRAZY!!! Did you see the one dude walking out kinda shaking his head a lil??.. his eyes were somewhere else..like his bell got rung, like when a boxer take an almost knock out punch. Great job guys!! But Tina got a little warm there. Lol..

[@chrisperry1756]

I lost it when the dollar shave guy said are the blades any good 🤣🤣🤣🤣 good one lol.

[@aaronacord6860]

Best diesel company out there right now

[@hartsfire5706]

this is going to be awesome when things come to gather and you get a full power run.

[@Sir.VicsMasher]

Big power numbers only happen on hub dyno's. Its the reason why the field has been stuck around 2.5k whp for the past 3 years. Get them on a hub dyno and watch records fall a lot more frequently.

[@51schmitty]

Great video! 👍

[@111gregs]

Custom Cliffy loves all that you guys do to educate,,,,

[@jamespenner1412]

Those common fails got nothing on the ol 2nd gen!! Love the videos, one of these days PDD is going to take the 3k hp crown. Good luck this year I'm rooting for you guys!!

[@MartyGramRC]

Love the new intro!

[@wrfarms9741]

Have you considered using an aviation type safety wire & grade 8 drilled bolts or better yet some aviation type titanium drilled for safety wire bolts to prevent the converter bolts from backing out? You might have to have your converters made with a fine thread to use bolts like these. If you can break 12 of these, you have some serious engineering challenges ahead.

[@M977A2]

Nickel based alloys would be better, titanium is great for strength to weight ratio but not ultimate strength. Inconel alloy might be a better choice, the high temperature properties are not needed but the strength is amazing.

[@Ariccio123]

I think papadakis racing sells nice jigs for drilling holes in bolts to make your own safety wire holes

[@lowellmiller6663]

Great video, you guys rock! The title though...

[@koryholt4807]

Always pre trip your ride boys. Happens to the best of us.

[@calvinwright1816]

Can you drill and tap the converter bolts for some 3/4" cut down ARP studs? (If this won't work please explain, thanks) 😀

[@bdjm8595]

Hahaha, good adventure you guys and congrats on the big numbers!! What about drilling and re-tapping those converter bolts a couple of sizes bigger !!!

[@jamespooley6626]

@14:17 Greta: HOW DARE YOU

[@extec101]

well Greta wouldn't dare to do that...

[@Ariccio123]

You do realize that soot reduces global warming? Or are you just shitting on a child for no reason?

[@helgaairhead]

@Jim C - Well Jim C, gotta tell you then - most Norwegians, Danish, Sweedish, Finnish people are making fun out of Greta T. So I guess I'm an idiot too then.

[@mikestrucks]

This truck is a real beast💪🏻 😈💨💨💨

[@jesterosin]

You Rock!

[@bagged1998]

So happy to se tina back in action

[@tacticalhomestead]

that's bull you guys should have won. the truck still ran after the pull. I mean heck if there gonna do you like that do a run with a direct drive top fuel drag transmission and straight up break that dyno

[@michaellindsey13]

14:45 this dude is SHOOK

[@Izzabumminz]

“6 bolt incase we swap an engine”you’ve been battling converter bolts forever 😂 just do a 12 bolt already. Snap on makes an electronic ratchet that can break away 70ft lbs

[@nou8257]

Its the same as trying to convince me that your automatic trans is better then my manual trans i don't care that its faster in the end i just don't want to spend 5 to 10k to make a transmission do its job

[@Izzabumminz]

No U I own a 99 6speed nv5600 vp44 2nd gen and a 03 commonrail with a 650hp auto trans Nobody’s trying to convince you with anything You’re just uneducated.

[@nou8257]

@@Izzabumminz uneducated in what it takes lots of money to build an auto trans I can get away with a single disc clutch or a dual disc in my 02 24v nv5600 or the 97 12v nv4500 I pull with or my 02 7.3 zf6 my only auto truck is my 08 6.4 but it's the drive it around truck

[@Izzabumminz]

No U Good for you bud

[@nou8257]

@@Izzabumminz thanks bud

[@markbrodis5554]

That climb up Vail Pass and later up to the tunnel has claimed many vehicles, glad you stopped before you caused damage. Many aren't that smart, see a lot of carnage there 🙂

[@shhall1980]

@14:06 , y'all need to make that a poster or a calendar.

[@monsterram6617]

Well... that seemed to get the crowd going!

[@taylorj9920]

People try and knock ats all the time but honestly Clint under yalls truck helping says a lot about both of you guys companies. Ive got several trucks with both of yalls products and have nothing but good to say about both of yalls companies!! Too many people just knock products they deliberately abuse and trash then blame everyone but themselves for the damage

[@BobbyB910]

Admittedly the ats square rear diff hurts performance and causes air bubbles in oil and causes it to lose it lubricating effect

[@jbandit2044]

That’s everyone’s aftermarket diff covers until banks, honestly though trucks ran fine for years with square covers

[@BobbyB910]

@@jbandit2044 I have a d3 rear diff cover for my d44 and its rounded and they stopped making those in the 90s. But I ain't arguing with you that almost all before banks has square designs

[@Daniel_kruger]

Very cool!!

[@loganrm1994]

Could've just grabbed some 6011 and jumper cables and welded to the flexplate real fast to take the win.

[@waltmoore3095]

Great idea, I would have used 7018.

[@actschp1]

Can you guys source some titanium bolts? If your engine is chewing through grade 8 bolts what else can you use?

[@blown572hemi]

Safety wire them bolts?

[@rshoff14]

How practical would it be to safety-wire those bolts in to keep them from backing out? More trouble than it’s worth?

[@stevehall1667]

would look into aircraft grade bolts with safety wire. great to see the camaraderie and passion for pdd and cummins

[@phtevenmolz5030]

"aircraft grade" is the same thing, just machined instead of cast. That wouldn't make a difference compared to other high quality hardware. And safety wire will help with backing, but not with shearing.

[@MineStrongth]

Lock wire beats red lock tight

[@Ashroyer86]

Hey, my wire harness got shredded by the fan too. Had no signals or horn.

[@timothydrutowski42]

Thanks for the name drop Todd 🤝#mechanicalmafiaforlife 😉

[@martymcfly6637]

that zoom in to the neckbeard mic scratch, god tier editing mate

[@ryanburbridge]

Ha ha that was great

[@powerstrokelife3119]

Some loctite tips are to clean bolts and holes with brake cleaner and then blow out with compressed air then use the loctite primer (7649) before you apply the loctite (262). If you have a blind hole put some in the hole and on the bolt otherwise what is on the bolt will actually get forced up the threads as you screw the bolt into the hole and push the air from the hole. Also have to remember heat will breakdown the loctite. I have sat through loctite training classes and learned a ton about what we had been doing wrong. If the bolt comes out without crusty loctite on it you didnt do something right is a good rule to go by. Hope some of that might help.

[@coltk2621]

I live in Colorado and drive up through vail monthly. I have a 2001 24 valve. Sure is a hill but these 2nd gens are unbelievable. Never towed more than 7k though

[@pddofficial]

It sure is brutal!

[@bandabanderos]

1000hp at 35 psi boost is not bad either

[@zenabu80]

I have had and got luck with some things with jb weld on bolts where locktite didn't work.

[@unitedstatesofbuild4915]

Just a thought: I think a pressure cooker can take out your kitchen with about half that PSI 😁

[@joshuagoldsmith5517]

Ever try tie wire for the converter bolts

[@RadDadisRad]

Sheared off the converter bolts. That’s nuts!!

[@tyrelllengerich7774]

No they're studs now... lol

[@danielaltman9945]

Tyrell Lengerich LMAO!!!

[@davidschmidt449]

Just handy when one thing gets missed and messes up hours of work and starts a snowball.

[@jacobmoses3712]

Have you guys got a hub dyno on your shopping list?

[@zachferguson3350]

The dollar shave club had me dying 🤣🤣🤣

[@joebidened]

Holy smokes

[@jacobmoses3712]

Did you ever find a solution to the bolts breaking problem?

[@Ajallday1010]

8200 rpm!? 💀 that's wild

[@christophergoodman404]

Go big or go home. I've had my fan clutch air line blow on the climb to the tunnel before not fun. (Cat motor in my W9)

[@ChuckBeefOG]

Cat motors pull well even if they arent running on all 6. I wish they still made truck engines.

[@8tyman8]

Just a tid bit of knowledge loctite makes a primer for there thread locker and there is one step above grade 8 fasteners witch is L9

[@paultavres9830]

Basic thing to do is shut it down let it cool add water pinch the cote tubes leaking leave the radiator cap loose so the radiator doesnt build pressure Why not run 6 bolts and 6 studs If you have to pull it remove the bolts and slide the converters over the studs Maybe they will help spread the torque You guys are truly gear heads

[@ScottKenny1978]

Oof, that's rough, guys! But like my race mechanic friend says, if you're not breaking parts, you're not racing! I'm thinking it's time for aircraft grade bolts and lockwire.

[@therccelebrityspeedfresh5393]

4,000hp on a diesel truck. Wow that’s gonna haul

[@JerryLee..]

Congrats on the "detuned" number. What manifold air temps are you guys seeing at 170 psi?

[@JerryLee..]

@@pddofficial amazing. Not questioning your data in any way. I would have expected the MAT to be much higher at +11F/psi boost pressure! Thanks for the reply!!

[@Faolan161]

Soooo.... if you don't have the time to put in a few more bolts the first time, is it worth it to do it a second time?....?

[@littlefishinggoat5409]

He needs to use the shear pins out of my snowblower for his torque converter!

[@Thepriest39]

Red 271 Loctite is strong but try the 2047 Red loctite. Much stronger. 125lbs. more prevailing torque. I worked in a saw mill on our de barker machine. The carbide tool tips would eventually loosen up with 271 loctite. I had our purchasing agent talk to our supplier and he recommended this one. I NEVER had a tool arm tip come loose after using this. To take them off after they wore out I had to heat them up real hot with the torch and use a high quality 3/4" impact gun to take them off. Get some of this and you won't regret it. Look up the info on their properties chart. There isn't a much rougher environment than a de barker machine.

[@calebjohnson1627]

The godfather is the most badass rig in the world. Breaking every single part possible it makes so much power. Cant wait to see it break 3,000 on a dyno one day

[@greendodge98]

Hell ya mechanical mafia all the way!!!!

[@Rob_Ferreira]

Why not safety wire the converter bolts..?

[@ppump24valve53]

I think u should go to like 1" grade 12 bolts on the converter lol! Never again have to worry about it lol.

[@daviddroescher]

It would work. One problem with 1" bolts you need 1" of thread engagement for full strength. Could solve with a spacer between the engine and transmission to make up the extra space needed. Adding "dogs" to the flex plate would transfer the shear load to the dog/bolt pedestal interface, and the bolts then only experience thrust loading. Set the dog/ pedestal like this // so that the flexplate will suck the TQC up tight if a bolt ever backs out agen.

[@treycherry1367]

I bet they won't stand near this truck again after what happened at the call out challenge 😂 it would of been straight carnage if it let go in that shop the way it did on the outdoor dyno

[@SDP_5.9]

This is before Chris Patterson went ham in his 5.9 06 3500

[@relaxmoda]

thats a cool intro

[@BobbyB910]

Question....could you run a supercharger to spool up the turbo I saw a fella have a twin charged 2jz ran a 8psi pulley for the supercharger and it just spools the turbo to get on boost faster

[@TheLightningWolfs]

You could. But it's a diesel and for top end power straight turbo is always better with less restriction. Supercharger would be a restriction.

[@MrCaspartheghost]

Run a manual gearbox?

[@griffinpierce7691]

I think it was that same hill i cracked a dpf in a ford. Got it a little hot i guess

[@willreed1411]

Try some aircraft grade nas bolts. Way stronger than grade 8. We used them on fuel cars. Specialty fasteners or wicks aircraft can help you out

[@thespiritof76..]

I use CA glue for lock tite simply bc it was what I had on hand, and it worked well... Soo anyone else have experience doing the same? I chose to keep using it bc I use CA for so many things, and lock tite only has one use...