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[@370zTEK]

this guy just said the 4070 ti super isnt powerful enough to be a 4k card?. Did he even look at the numbers he posted? Am i missing something. It looks like it does 4k just fine.

[@TheMonkeyBloke]

Literally thought the same thing watching it just now... Around 90-100 FPS average for pretty much everything displayed..? Last time I checked, anything above 60 FPS 1% lows @ 4K would be considered "good" at the very least

[@thepro3729]

I Like all of your different viewpoints. They all make sense and explained well

[@AdamHopp]

Super interesting and informative as always jufes

[@mikee1of1]

Been looking for this in YT for reviews. thanks for the effort really appreciate this video!

[@6r3ys0n]

Jufes taking time out of his busy schedule to benchmark for (mostly) the normies. Who said he isn't a man of the people!

[@kramnull8962]

Normies with $800 jingling around in their pocket.

[@6r3ys0n]

That's not much at all. Especially with inflation. $800 is no where near what it was 10 years ago@@kramnull8962 I used the term "normies" because most of us that watch Jufes content own 4090's and $800 2 dimm z790 chipsets

[@CUSTARDP00DLETK]

Well he IS one of the only Yters we can trust when it comes to stuff like this.

[@idrinktapwater6174]

​@@kramnull8962normies>poories

[@Tuskabanana]

I still love my 3090 ti :=)

[@DLK92]

Great video, thanks for comparing power draw also.

[@TDrem]

Always appreciate the videos you put out while being so busy Jufes

[@rdking005]

THE PEOPLE’S INFLUENCER!!! I’m new to the channel but I’ve watched a lot of your vids by just binge watching and I’m really happy I found this channel. Once I get some stuff caught up irl I’d love to join your discord cause I’d love to learn how to test overclocks appropriately and some other things. Thanks for what you do man.

[@Yuenix]

lol "1440pppppeeeeeeeeee!" hahaha everytime lmao

[@r.j.5072]

Now did you crank the memory/core/wattage on the super also?

[@HectorDomino.]

The thumbnail picture though... 😂

[@LOT9T]

Was wondering how much more performance the 254 bus bump was going to give! Thx Jufes!

[@OwlyEagle]

Now this is an interesting comparison given the price differences

[@bubbalu7443]

I have the same model of 4070 ti super as you! I was wondering what overclocking you did? Great video!

[@MrDanwilliams]

I am a simple man. I see a video by Jufes and I click on it. One love x

[@Kapono5150]

When the 4080 was 1049 on Amazon, not many bought it. Now the 4080 super at 1200 is sold out in my area, make it make sense

[@ofon2000]

they aren't creating many of them because they want to make room for next gen, imo.

[@Kapono5150]

@@ofon2000 That’s a valid point, could be the case

[@Accurize2]

Microcenter has multiple 4080 Supers for $1,049.

[@zerocal76]

Ngreedia constantly changes supply to keep prices up. They even talk about it in their investor meetings (forgot which specicially). They prob dropped 4080 S supply to make sure the prices didn't dip but demand was high enough they went up 👀

[@Kapono5150]

@@zerocal76 Well that’s a very good estimate, better than anyone else’s idea

[@asmongoldsmouth9839]

*Can't wait for the 5080 and 5090 to be announced this fall/winter.*

[@edwardwilliams3815]

Released ;)

[@DirtyAtreyu]

I remember hearing that the 4070 TI had memory modules with the same binning as the 4090. I tested this myself and was able to go to +2250 MHz with a different overclocking program and did notice a performence boost in games.

[@stangamer1151]

It depends on a certain sample. Mine only goes as high as +1700 MHz. Anything above that might cause stability issues during long time gaming sessions. Memory OC alone provides +6% performance improvement at 4K in my case. Not bad, taking into account the fact that power consumption barely increases.

[@sean.d7171]

What you guys think 14900ks or wait for 15th gen. I play Arma 3 so one core is maxed out bottle-necking so need single thread performance and ram speed.

[@catonturtle3202]

4:32 my favorite ram benchmark 🥹

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 thank you very much, i have a HUGE old tv but it only has 1080p, its good to know that 12GB of Invidia Vram is the sweet spot, I didnt know that, thanks again

[@icanseeall-inthisreality]

it isn't if you care about the future and not having to upgrade every generation. if you want to be able to fully utilize a new card for more than one generation then 16gb vram is the minimum you would want to get. but even now some games can use more than 12 gb vram.

[@icanseeall-inthisreality]

in the future ppl are going to be stuck with a 16gb vram 4080 and wishing it had 20gb vram. i bought a 4080 knowing this because I didn't have much of a choice. but 16 gb vram will fare better than 12. just look at the 3070 and its generation killing 8 gb vram, it turned a semi mid-range into a low-end card.

[@AkNich]

For Helldivers on my 4070Ti Super, I was averaging 180 fps on 1440p the whole time even throughout intensive motions/scenes on max settings

[@AkNich]

This was even before I updated my NVIDIA drivers and installed GeForce Experience aswell, PC was just rawdoggin it 💀

[@zeph5800]

Sup man, can you give me your build and tell me how much did you pay for it ? Thanks a lot

[@absolutexk]

What cpu?

[@AkNich]

@@zeph5800 Ryzen 7 7700X, Pro B650-P Wifi MoBo, 32gb DDR5 G.Skill Flare 6000 Mhz (They gave me CL32 ;D) Bundle from Micro Center. I recommend upgrading to the 7800x3D for the slightly better performance and it has better power consumption control. DeepCool 360mm AIO Western Digitial SN850X 2 TB Samsung Pro 990 2 TB Asus TUF 4070 Ti Super MSI MAG 750w 80+ Gold, with the yellow cord thingy (I’d say 850w 80+ Gold, but I was budgeting a lil bit throughout the build). And Montech Air 903 Max Case. Cost: $2k flat with tax in CA (My MoBo fried so I upgraded to an ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-E)

[@AkNich]

@@absolutexkRyzen 7 7700x

[@nimbulan2020]

Personally I was expecting the 4070 Ti Super to be closer to the 4080 than the 4070 Ti but I guess the smaller cache really does hold it back. Particularly with the Helldivers 2 test, what a strange result.

[@ofon2000]

Strange because we don't know why...wish we had the technical understanding to know.... I was also thinking it'd be close as well. Looks like I'm waiting for next gen to upgrade my 3060 ti lol

[@anitaremenarova6662]

It is if you get a good model. This guy tried doing overclocking on +5% power limit and a broken BIOS MSI model at that.

[@BigBADSTUFF69]

theyre not just gonna give it to you, they need to be able to upsell you

[@user-bp6bu8gg2g]

Can you find a 4070 ti super open box to compare aswell for prices? Because it's not fair if the others are open box and the ti super isn't.

[@504Trey]

Life isn't fair

[@peterpeter5666]

really happy i bought a 7900 xtx instead of the 4070 ti which was as expensive or more expensive

[@sebastianm3505]

Jufes what about giving both 4070ti and the 4070tis 300W and testing them with that PD?

[@unitybeing777]

No fluff, loved this review.

[@camplethargic8]

and no ranting on repeat - gj

[@laz7354]

No fluff until the end! 😻

[@reloadingdontshoot1]

Just grabbed a 4080 Super Amp Extreme as that's my fav model, and a 4080 is what I want for price/performance (might as well get a Super). Plus there isn't an Amp Extreme 4070ti Super Had a 4070ti Amp Extreme and it struggled a tad to maintain 165fps at 1440p all the time. Very happy with the 4080 Super

[@buttergolem8584]

I'm looking for a reason for the 4070ti Super but I think the price difference between them is not that big compared to the performance gain I get with the 4080 Super.

[@buttergolem8584]

I did get the RTX 4080. Damn is that a great card, makes me forgett about the price 😄

[@504Trey]

​@buttergolem8584 Bro forgot he doesn't have any money left to pay his bills because the card so good 💀

[@Jamie71q]

Hi I have a question, Do you think I should upgrade my Vanilla 6800 to say a 4070 super or keep it for a bit longer, Using a 5800x3D with it game at 1440p.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

You're good, wait for the 50 series which will hopefully have more valid options other than a singular card starting at $800

[@Trusttheprocess927]

Wait for either 50 series or amd 8000 series. Nothing will be worth it right now

[@Seandude05]

Love the part where you list your OCs and power draw.

[@FIVESTRZ]

Writing while waiting on advert lol. 4070 Super would’ve been a nice 4th for comparison.

[@FIVESTRZ]

And answered within first 15 seconds 🤣 *also grabbed a 4070 Ti Super for $670 on BB

[@joemead5224]

So glad I bought a 4070 TI when it first released, no regrets, has been running neat for over a year, I came here to see is the overclock worth it.. about a 7% increase is what I heard, this video confirms it I suppose. Idk I feel alright keeping the OC on. Really don't know if I should just run it at stock speeds though tbh :/ hard choice... ( only turned OC on about 2 month ago when I got a 1440p monitor)

[@StarlightGalaxi]

I have my 4070 Ti at +2000mhz for the memory clock in Afterburner and it's been rock solid for 3 months already you aren't going to do any harm not to mention I do have my card undervolted as well at 2835mhz with a voltage of 1.00MV's reduced power by about 30-40watts runs cooler and performs better from the stock frequency on my card that was 2790mhz.

[@vladsta3833]

My peasant senses are tingling

[@Wobbothe3rd]

Only sane gaming GPU content on youtube

[@user-ci7hn1ln2r]

I have question, what should i get I5 14600kf with Gigabyte B760M DS3H DDR4 MOTHERBOARD or R7 5800x3d with ASUS TUF Gaming B550-PLUS WiFi II AMD AM4, both of them with ddr4 ram 3200mhz i play RUST

[@edwardwilliams3815]

a MSI Z690-A Pro DDR5 Mobo from ebay for 89$+6000/6400mhz ddr5 ram for $70 ;) what I did with my 13600k, you will see much better performance with a ddr5 mobo, ebay is fine too, using both components for 5months now no issues, both were practically new, I think its overstock or returned stock they put up regularly, its a bidding battle, just make sure ready to bid a cpl extra dollars at the very last second to get the best price...

[@ASTROSR4]

I wonder what RAM Heatsinks he uses?

[@maag78]

Hey man I love the video, but I think ALL your math is wrong... For example, Horizon Zero Dawn 4K were looking at 101 vs 116. So you would divide 101 by 116 and get 0.87, so the ti super would be 13% faster not 15%. OR am I doing it wrong lol?

[@anitaremenarova6662]

101 times 1.15 is 116

[@mrcapopr]

Question I don’t know nothing about gaming computers but I build my own intel i9 12000k ,with 3080ti ftw3 ultra ,motherboard asus z690-a , gskill dr4 ram Silverstone SX1000 Platinum, 80PLUS Platinum 1000W Fully Modular SFX should I stay like this or do a have to upgrade something to get better quality

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Get a better GPU, with Nvidia you're shooting yourself in the foot by not getting current gen hardware because their software is locked to it. With AMD everything is backwards compatible.

[@BrandensOutdoorChannel]

If you don't know nothing, it means you actually know something...

[@edwardwilliams3815]

wait for 50series, no sense to go from flagship 30series TI card to 40, or wait for big discounts on 40series when 50 series drops

[@redclaw72666]

​@@edwardwilliams3815that's if you got nothing to do for the entire year or don't got no games to play lol or you ain't getting no card on launch 😅

[@silfrido1768]

5:04 😂 who else loves when he says “ 14400000p “ lol

[@gozutheDJ]

fawteen fawty paaayyy

[@silfrido1768]

@@gozutheDJ if I hear that once or twice a day life seems to not suck as much 😆😆😆

[@Nevsack63]

How is that funny ?

[@silfrido1768]

@@Nevsack63 ……

[@gozutheDJ]

@@Nevsack63 its not for u clearly

[@brutal131]

lookin to get a 4080 super or 4090 for max fps on halo infinite at 1080p. can someone recommend the best cpu for this.

[@cosmicactor]

Best cpu for gaming is ryzen 7800x3d. Might be overkill for 1080p. 4090 is waaay overkill and so is 4080. 4070 ti super will be more than enough for 1080p

[@user-xp2gc9dn2g]

Jufes says it like it is .... Like him or hate him he tells the truth ! PS I love this guy !

[@bamboostick5]

100+ fps at 4k means its not a 4k card? dang the world is changing

[@BigBADSTUFF69]

LOL for real

[@j.a.velarde5901]

THIS HELPED ME! - If i'm understanding correct: I will buy the 4080 if i can. Subbed.

[@jackcapella2707]

It’s really only better for multi cam and multi stile line editing and streaming from what I can tell.

[@hfn71]

3:49 Actually 4080 is not 17% faster than 4070tis, but 15%, because 128/111 is ~1,15. This is a nitpick tho and I guess everyone gets the point. Keep up the good work. ;)

[@WhiteSkyMage]

thanks, i was looking for such benchmarks where 4070Ti is OCed to the max to try match the 4070Ti Super 😊 But just ~7% faster @1440p..... 😮‍💨

[@michagysin3082]

the 4070 ti super canalso be ocd, i have mine running at 2.9 ghz.

[@CaptainScorpio24]

i bought ths rtx 4070 ti super gigabyte eagle oc last month and yes i also like tge GPU qhich has max power in mkat efficient way. i did my upgrade from rtx 3070 Founders edition which I bought it in jan 2021

[@timothysullivan-pm3sl]

I bought the same exact 4070 ti super and upgraded from a 3070 lol absolutely love it and it's defiantly a hell of a upgrade

[@Richdadful]

Actually due to huge amount of cache these 4000 series card have. Memory bandwidth is not making big changes. 4070ti super is more closer in terms of memory bandwidth to 4080.

[@DigitalBliss69]

Picked up a 4070tiS from Best Buy open box for $664 last night . Coming from a 6800xt but so not gonna be huge gains maybe 25-30%? But with DLSS 3 and frame gen will be higher and can’t wait to try nvidia reflex for OW 🎉 PS: the extra 4G of vram makes a huge difference . Many games I play already use 12g or more of vram so best to always get most amount of vram you can afford

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Smart choice. You'll see the biggest bump in performance for raytraced games. Easily 50% compared to your previous card.

[@DigitalBliss69]

@@anitaremenarova6662 can’t wait getting it on Tuesday pairing with 7800x3D and 6000mhz CL28 ram

[@shephusted2714]

in 9 mos this will not matter essentially - savvy consumers will do their own research

[@kramnull8962]

And in most certain terms you'll be dead in 70 years.

[@Corrosion37]

How long does it take to RMA an intel cpu? My 14900k is dead, i put in an rma request and they said it was bad, i gave them my info and ive heard nothing back for 2 weeks now

[@beardeddragon9255]

Sheesh, that sucks. No idea as I've never had to RMA. I'd be careful with them though. They're going to investigate and if it died because of you then there goes the rma.

[@Jarpukka]

Where is warzone numbers? I didn't find those from the video. I have been looking your amazing tests for long time specifically for this game

[@edwardwilliams3815]

just search the cards or vs for cards and many many vids will pop up with WZ clips lol these cards do fine in WZ, ppl will say AMD is best, but how many pro WZ streamers do you watch who use AMD cards, very little, I have yet to see one...expect over 200fps with 4070ti

[@Oregon.ore_gone]

4080/4080 super or 7900xtx? Both reference models? Xtx is 200$ cheaper

[@KiNg0fShReD]

Watch his AMDip video and you’ll get your answer man

[@bgeezus3955]

Seeing "tis" next to the ti super finally made it click in my head why the supers are so off compared to the other cards. They got the tis....m

[@juanme555]

Could you test the 14900K vs the 7800X3D in Counter-Strike 2???? I saw that the 7800X3D has higher averages, but nobody online has tested for AMDips , you are the only one who can test for it afaik , and Counter-Strike is the only game i play , could you consider?

[@edwardwilliams3815]

why not download the software yourself and do it yourself? MSI Afterburner is free and will show you realtime frames and dips, etc :D

[@juanme555]

@@edwardwilliams3815 Because i dont have those cpus :DDDDDD

[@dev77cmd]

Damn, the 4080 is basically mandatory for a new build, if you want it to last for a good 5 years at 1440p/high. A shame that it costs an arm and a leg. Some time back, I got the GTX 980 which is the equivalent to 4080 now for like 700. Now this thing costs upwards of 1200…

[@sergeyivanovish85]

daamn, still a 980, And I'm considering upgrading from my 2080ti for 1440pgaming to a 4090, but rumors are that the 5 series are coming in the fall... So I think I'll wait it out

[@dev77cmd]

@@sergeyivanovish85 I have a 2070 Super since 2021, just saying that a few years back a “top end” gpu used to cost 700, like the 980 I had. Now 700 gets you a mid-range gpu.

[@sergeyivanovish85]

@@dev77cmd jup, times have changed :(

[@beerwatts3994]

Great 👍🏻

[@michaelmcconnell7302]

Sounds like its perfect for 1440p ultrawide

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Very true. 12GB is risking it even for standard 1440p at this point.

[@gxmcdg]

Diablo 4 put my 8gb to the test at 1080p back at the launch date, and I think there may be more games like it from then to now. Never underestimate developer's lazyness.

[@DanielHebell]

Turtles carpet review when?

[@Jerem0y]

that Open box 4080 price on Zotac is REDONK man... I just spent 994$ on a used Aorus MASTER

[@disclaimer4211]

Its probably the kernel crap setup they got for helldivers which is why its scaling weirdly.

[@born_to_play]

MSI model still has problem with the vBIOS, you should benchmark the Gigabyte model

[@anitaremenarova6662]

The one he bought only has base max power limit. If you care about overclocking you need to get a premium one like gigabyte gaming.

[@BillyLove-tj2cb]

Appreciate your content been watching a couple years now and I just built my first computer for gaming now that I can afford it. 14900k, apex encore, 7200 ram, and 4090. Just gonna enable xmp 7200 leave everything else stock for now. Hoping this computer will last me a long time. Don’t need max oc by any means I can already compete in apex legends on a Ps4 slim no problem. Thanks again for your channel.

[@silfrido1768]

nicely done man :), hopefully you start learning how to tune & oc. It makes a difference My build consist of a 4090 7800x3d 7200mhz cl34-42-42-84 1.4v ( oc’d to 7400mhz ) B650 aorus elite ax ice mobo fclk is at 2133 ( since you are on intel you can get better numbers then me. Bclk is at 101. there’s alot that I did but it’s too much to write lol.

[@tempusfugit5388]

Can you COMPETE?

[@zilla8858]

Me with a 4070 hoping it dominates lol

[@user-xz9uj9jo4h]

Is a used 4080 for ~670 USD worth it?

[@cosmicactor]

If nothing is wrong with it, id say it is very worth it

[@bigcazza5260]

bro AMDip is so real wccftech isnt keeping up with my keyboard and it runs on epyc literally 8 bytes caused AMDip

[@-Rizecek-]

Overclocking in 2024 is useless. It just increases consumption and temperatures. Graphics cards go up by 200MHz and the difference is barely 10FPS.

[@redclaw72666]

😂😂😂 let the Ai handle it

[@toddsimone7182]

3:50 the math doesn't work that way. The 4080 is 15% faster than the Ti super, just a heads up.

[@caiz1411]

you clearly are not understanding!! he is comparing both the super and 4080 percentage difference to the 4070ti🤣

[@toddsimone7182]

@@caiz1411 You clearly don't understand how math works. 🤣

[@pascaldifolco4611]

Why is GPU power efficiency now important, as you throw any efficiency out of the window with a 14900K ?

[@redclaw72666]

It's due to people crying over electricity and people wouldn't shut up about it soo he had to add it to shut them up

[@silfrido1768]

the super is a good card, it’s just no where near as good as 4090 but it’s still solid

[@gazza8596]

Been looking at building a 4070ti gaming pc with a 4070 straming pc always wondered why theres £200 difference haha 4070ti for me is around 700 but a 4070 is 500 haha

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Get the 4070ti super, the extra VRAM actually makes it worth the price. 4070ti is useless now, you can just get a 4070 super for much cheaper with the same performance when OC'd.

[@erikpatane89]

sooo why not get a 3090ti used ?

[@pradajay337]

power draw

[@FrameChasers]

I thought about including those numbers but I have them in my original 4070ti video, and yeah power draw is double

[@radugrigoras]

I know you don’t use DLSS but once you turn that on and Frame Gen then really the differences between these cards becomes even less noticeable to the average mortal. 250fps vs 275fps or 300fps, kind of the same to me. As far as efficiency goes the 4080 and the 4070TiS are basically the same, if you limit the 4080 power to 270w I think they would get basically the same FPS with the 4080 winning in RT titles because of the higher tensor and RT core count. Again even in countries where electricity is 0.33$/kwh the difference between 270w and let’s say 200w is moot, two cents an hr. If you can find a previous gen card that draws 270w for the same performance as a current gen at 200w for 100$ less it would take you 4329hrs to get on par cost wise. I think performance per watt is a waste of time. You know what saves you the most power?? Stop gaming so much and get a real job, then you won’t have to worry about saving pennies per hour.

[@redclaw72666]

Sounds terrible 😂 I feel bad for you people that do this type of thing

[@Krenisphia]

A 4070ti-super as a "4K" card is crazy to me. I have a 4090 and still I refuse to use 4K. I love my framerate too much.

[@slite3276]

Tbh 60-120 fps is perfect for 99% of single player games. I absolutely see no point in running comp multiplayer games in 4k as you said.. frames. So going by this.. card that can achieve around 4k 60-120 fps is a 4k card

[@Krenisphia]

@@slite3276 I mainly play single player games and 60-70 is too sluggish for me. 70-80 is the bare minimum target. 90-120 is preferred.

[@slite3276]

@@Krenisphia yea i feel that.. but running ultra settings /ultra rt or pathtracing.. and if its chilling at 60(using dlss of course) .. i say ay ok

[@kramnull8962]

@@slite3276 Any type of Frame gen is useless, if you are speaking of peak gaming performance.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

​@@kramnull8962DLSS is upscaling not frame gen, I agree that is still useless technology.

[@graviusmatt]

I have 2080ti, only 4090 performance really ok to upgrade for me (x2 and more performance), but ~$2000 is too much... Buying Cartier for my daughter is better choice 😂😂😂

[@redclaw72666]

Should've bought it earlier, in late 2023 like I did with mine got it for $1579

[@graviusmatt]

@@redclaw72666 ok, same for me. More than $1000 for graphics card its robbery 😅

[@ArthurM1863]

4090 is more like 3x of a 2080ti

[@icanseeall-inthisreality]

I reckon rx6800xt is bare minimum for 1440p these days. I think I recall with my old 2080ti I used to get around 90fps in assassins' creed Valhalla in 1440p ultra maybe fsr quality, not 100% sure. but with my rtx4080 in assassin's creed Valhalla I can max out my 165hz 1440p monitor with 165fps ultra settings fsr quality and the gpu utilization is only about 50% and temps are also about 50 degrees Celsius. And that's with locked 165fps and a i7 11700k so I can only assume unless there is an engine limit the 4080 would be able to get close to double that fps and even more if you dropped to fsr performance. even going from a 2080ti to a rx6800xt there's a big difference if you look at benchmarks, so any upgrade such as 7800xt or rtx4070 would be definitely worth the upgrade. I could not even hit locked 60fps at 1440p medium with fsr performance in starfield with my rtx2080ti amp extreme, dipping into the low 50s often when starfield first came out.

[@edwardwilliams3815]

seeing used ones popping up for 1500$, bubble is burst, can snag a used one for less than MSRP and a few retailers still restock at MSRP, unless you want an expensive AIB model like a strix, which imo makes no sense as they all perform within margin of error, frames, singular kind lol

[@LOOTLORD605]

Salam bruda.

[@ahsum28]

USE 4080 4070 4090. NEED CPU I7-14700 , improve the display card fps more between other CPU

[@STEELFOX2000]

`So now 4070ti super is at same level of 3090Ti.

[@levispartan1993]

do 7900xt vs 4070ti super 1440p and 7900xtx vs 4080 super 1440p native resolution and also throw in some rt games

[@FrameChasers]

No thanks

[@k1cs1m3a8]

Both amd card will destroy their competitor and this is a nvidia fun boy channel 🎉

[@levispartan1993]

what?@@k1cs1m3a8

[@levispartan1993]

you'd get more views @@FrameChasers

[@edwardwilliams3815]

hardly, 4080 and 7900xtx are so close its hard to say which is 2nd ranked and 3rd ranked, plenty of benchmarks out there, besides like a whole whopping 2games that are AMD optimized, they're soo close, it comes down to value, which some will say AMD is winning, when you leave the gaming landscape, Nvidia holds the edge, enough, most productivity ppl will choose nvidia over AMD usually, but thats a whole other world of PC's that has its own benchmark landscape, even with SAM, its not enough to say, it destroys, put both side by side with out say MSI AB running, avg joe wont see the difference, well they notice AMDips and probably lean towards the green team lolz(not a srs comment by the way, cause you probably take AMD wayyy too srs, GG) @@k1cs1m3a8

[@jagenaudas8605]

the 4080 super should be the better deal, especially in 4k. do you wanna try this oc?

[@anitaremenarova6662]

It's 15% more performance for 25% more money. In europe this climbs up to 30-35% 4K gaming is still a joke, hopefully the 50 series will be more future-proof in this category.

[@BlGASH]

[@CarnivoryHODL]

4080 open box ~$800 is the play if not for 4090.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Or you can get open box 4070tiS for ~$600 and not waste money, especially with 50 series almost here.

[@PILLBOXGAMING]

4070ti super vs 3090Ti?

[@anitaremenarova6662]

4070tiS is slightly better.

[@PILLBOXGAMING]

@anitaremenarova6662 Even though the 3090Ti has a much bigger bus and more ram?

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@@PILLBOXGAMING Yes, older chip technology makes them basically match except the 3090ti eats up wayyy more power.

[@PILLBOXGAMING]

@@anitaremenarova6662 True

[@TGC1775]

Ah. Making people cry from the holiday guilt again I see? 🍷

[@frillasliska9095]

Is it a legit upgrade from 3080Ti. Rtx 4070ti.

[@edwardwilliams3815]

for power efficiency, yes, for performance, some, not enough though, but depends on game, also, is the card not doing what you want it to do? If so, then yes consider an upgrade, I see alot of smart PC gamers holding out for 50series with their 3080ti's, your call, your $ GG

[@Trusttheprocess927]

Wait for 5000 series 3080ti is still plenty fast

[@abc-ni9lp]

best high performance low power draw GPU is undervolted 4090

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Over here in europe it's not even a question. 4080 supers cost $327 more than 4070tiS which for 15% extra performance isn't even worth considering. End of life 4080 is not much better at $272 which is still 30% more money for half the performance gain. All in all the 4070tiS remains the best choice out of the 40 series, at this point even a 4090 would be a waste of money with the 5090 close to 6 months until release.

[@_Quint_]

"Trying to be a 4k card but isn't really" - while showing 100+ fps in most titles. Standard KZbin streamer logic.

[@edwardwilliams3815]

he showed older titles, except for HD2, in newer AAA titles the 4070 cards are going to struggle, even the 4080 does at 4k, DLSS magic fixes it, which is ok for single player games, Latency can get pretty high, but for the avg gamer, its not much worse than upscaled console gaming lol

[@_Quint_]

@@edwardwilliams3815DLSS without FG has no perceptible effect on input nor frame times, though, including in multiplayer titles. Frankly, people playing native res with an RTX card these days are a dying breed. Why leave performance with no loss of fidelity off the table, when DLSS is so incredibly effective?

[@edwardwilliams3815]

yeah, I use DLSS, unless I know my 4080 can push native, for HD2 I use super sampling which looks so clean, but only get 80sh fps at 1440p, I was on a 4k60hz for a while, but have mostly been using the 32in 2k 165hz monitor I got recently, but still use the 4k for streams and YT and disc while gaming, etc.@@_Quint_

[@pe3ke117]

4070Ti Super 16GB Vram buffer is big win here. no more stutters in UWQHD. 12GB Ti crap belongs to trash. sadly prices are basicly the same for Ti and Ti Super where i live, so no brainer. 4080 is impossible to buy under 1000€ and is expensive for what it delivers to the table. no good deals. so i skip it.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Same, cheapest 4080 is 1099€ over here. Insane mark-up for nothing.

[@RyanFennec]

Fourteen forty peahhh

[@did00p]

sorry hand noticed where are actual freq after oc ? BTW my 4070 super asus dual can easily oc by 15% to 4070ti level. +10% pl +225 core and +1250 mem

[@anitaremenarova6662]

4070S and 4070ti are basically the same card. You can't match a 4080 with a 4070tiS because the number of cores is too different.

[@bh0llar702]

I would love to see a reaction to tech notice horrendous ram overclocking tips😂

[@ionelroza8711]

Tech Notice is not a gaming, max oc, Call of Duty, or benchmarks channel. Their content is aimed at other people. Unfortunately, people coming from mainstream techtubers or OC channels are coming there trying to teach him about his business, which is funny to me :))

[@caiz1411]

The people that are not understanding the math needs to go back to to school 🤣 he comparing the 2 cards to the 4070ti not the ones next to each other

[@2003dipfun]

Hmmmmmmmmmm 4070ti results are very similar to 3080ti🤔

[@laszlozsurka8991]

3080 Ti is like 2% slower than a 3090 and the 4070 Ti is the same as a 3090.

[@dabagz1]

Yea if you have a 3080 or 3080ti , skip this gen entirely and wait for 5080 for sure

[@fastfords8129]

It’s a much better card…. Literally only gets 10 more fps 😂

[@El_Deen]

Haha lmao, found another person who thinks those tiny cat feet are cute!

[@thaNZdon]

Gg