4079 'Pendennis Castle' STRUGGLES and STOPS on the bank!!!!! .Churnet Valley Rly. 6th May 2024

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Phil Clarke

Phil Clarke

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@sachikazeC57_SLvideos
@sachikazeC57_SLvideos 5 ай бұрын
Excuse me for the first comment. I am a Japan steam locomotive fan. When I went to England before, I came across Pendennis Castle, which is on static display at Didcot. I was impressed by the powerful running of the nostalgic locomotive. I would like to express my sincere respect to the Mr./Ms. of the locomotive and crew who struggled on the steep grade, and to Mr.Phil for taking such wonderful images. Subscribe to the channel and like it!
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Many thanks, for your comment and for subscribing.,👍😀
@grahamhunt7488
@grahamhunt7488 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Phil for this outstanding film. I so enjoy the Churnet Valley Railway and visited it in February one year. Even better in the Spring. My childhood trainspotting was 1948-1952 at Bristol Temple Meads where Halls and Castles abounded. Happy Days...
@lauriecooper8194
@lauriecooper8194 5 ай бұрын
Brilliant video Phil, thanks. Not a good day for the old darling, she wasn't designed for slogging like this.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Many thanks. No, too much to ask her for.
@clarky2356
@clarky2356 4 ай бұрын
Nothing beats a great western bark really enjoyable to watch
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 4 ай бұрын
@@clarky2356 many thanks 👍
@Johnny16781
@Johnny16781 5 ай бұрын
Great one Phil , Had to work very hard, Feel sorry for the crew, they worked hard as well 😁
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Johnny. Certainly did,to get going again
@hellotractor4772
@hellotractor4772 2 ай бұрын
Slipped, fire went up the chimney, shovel came up and didn’t go down all the way to the top, in and gone!
@theretrocrowe
@theretrocrowe 5 ай бұрын
Great video, this was a brilliant gala, I was there at Consall on the Sunday. 4079 clearly wasn't in the best of health, sending her up such a steep gradient with load 7 in poor health seems a bit of a questionable decision, but well done to the crew for getting her up and running again after the stall
@HIDI-f5z
@HIDI-f5z 5 ай бұрын
Look at all the steam pissing out the front and, glands and relief valves going. Too hard work for it, it’s high legged and built for speed not slogging up hills like that. I know people will go on about the South Devon Banks but at least you had a run at it.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Thanks. Yes I agree with all that 👍
@iandocwra1169
@iandocwra1169 5 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with the loco - it was given seven coaches full of passengers to take up a 1 in 40 climb with sharp curves. The power was there, as evidenced by the slipping, which GWR 4-6-0s are not prone to doing. The lack of adhesion to overcome the drag of the train was the issue, not the 'health' of the engine. Skilful driving got it underway again without hand sanding.
@tomwalton5388
@tomwalton5388 5 ай бұрын
It's nothing to do with the health of the loco. Crew and Loco did a fine Job. A climb like that with 7 carriages without assistance is a big ask for a Castle 👍
@loco42041
@loco42041 5 ай бұрын
Lack of SPEED from the beginning thats WHY IT STALLED?
@Stockport9b
@Stockport9b 5 ай бұрын
With such a steep gradient the S160’s seem like one of the perfect engines for them.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
True
@richardwhite2325
@richardwhite2325 5 ай бұрын
Very enjoyable thanks
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Richard. My pleasure.
@mulatnochannel
@mulatnochannel 3 ай бұрын
Good, I like your video 👍❤
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 2 ай бұрын
Many thanks
@theoccupier1652
@theoccupier1652 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic sound in this video
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Yes it is, thanks
@johnnew3096
@johnnew3096 5 ай бұрын
Good bit of driving to get it restarted. Somewhat surprised it stalled GWR 4-6-0 designs I recall as being sure footed. Good video too.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Thanks John 👍
@iandocwra1169
@iandocwra1169 5 ай бұрын
They are, but there are limits.
@tattoo1084
@tattoo1084 5 ай бұрын
She got there in the end and made some great noise doing it!👍👍
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
She did David. Had us all biting our nails though 😀
@kellyashfordtrains2642
@kellyashfordtrains2642 5 ай бұрын
I watched a video of Mayflower struggling to get up Whiteball Bank, on the main line. She had a heavy passenger train behind her, and no banker at the rear. She slowed right down to a crawl, but didn't stall. She made it to the top and into the tunnel. Just goes to show what steam engines will do to please the enthusiasts.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Must have been worrying for Mayflowers crew. Don't want to stall on the mainline
@richardwhite2325
@richardwhite2325 5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Many thanks Richard. Much appreciated.
@The_East_Charleston_Railway
@The_East_Charleston_Railway 5 ай бұрын
I love how everyone leans from the windows to watch the locomotives wheel slip
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Haha, just want to see what's happening. Not much to see on the opposite side though.
@richardswiderski4985
@richardswiderski4985 5 ай бұрын
Grest video Phil Poor Pendennis Castle bet a lot of engines would fail that gradient..Well done to the crea for getting her going again....plenty of noise and smoke for you though .Hope to see her soon.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Rick. Yes, a good test for them . They dropped 1 coach off later when the Standard 4 (75014) went up. When we stopped, I didn't think we would get started again without help, they did a great job.
@SimonTog
@SimonTog 5 ай бұрын
Super video Phil :)
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Simon :)
@justandy333
@justandy333 5 ай бұрын
This has got to be one of the first times I've seen a Castle loose its footing. I mean the run out of Tyseley Locomotive works is very steep and castles regularly get halted on the incline due to a signal stop. They have no problems at all making that climb from a standing start halfway up it. So this video is rather surprising since the Castles are very well know for their surefootedness. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if this happened to a West Country Class or an A1 etc. Still, nice to see something different for a change and something that will surely create a discussion.
@The_East_Charleston_Railway
@The_East_Charleston_Railway 5 ай бұрын
This is the true power of steam engines, just like how big boy banked that heavy ass freight train up a hill
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Certainly is
@marcblackman7372
@marcblackman7372 5 ай бұрын
The loco did nothing wrong. It's an express loco. It was built to fly along the western mainline not branch lines. It's going up a steep climb around tight bends. It's in a forest are the rails set of greasy? Not surprised it struggled. The steam from the front is either open drain cocks or steam chest relief valves. The s160 as someone else mentioned was built as a freight loco. Smaller wheels. Designed for slogging along like this.
@marcblackman7372
@marcblackman7372 5 ай бұрын
Should say are the rails wet or greasy
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 5 ай бұрын
The South Devon banks are very like this, and Castles were permitted nine coaches up there I think,
@thomaspolice9400
@thomaspolice9400 5 ай бұрын
@@AndreiTupolev They were allowed to approach at speed and also the bends were not so tight, even on Dainton going West. However Dainton was challenging in wet conditions. There would always be a spare Loco either waiting in the Bankers siding or at Newton Abbot Shed.
@JakeBSteam
@JakeBSteam 5 ай бұрын
Great video as always Phil, 4079 certainly isn't in the greatest of health, not helped by the various steam leaks.
@JBTEvans
@JBTEvans 5 ай бұрын
She has been that way since she was restored! Same with 2999!
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
​@@JBTEvansnot good.
@JakeBSteam
@JakeBSteam 5 ай бұрын
@@JBTEvans Aye, there does seem to be a theme with Didcot engines that they seem to leak a lot. lol
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Jake. No certainly needs some attention
@iandocwra1169
@iandocwra1169 5 ай бұрын
Again, nothing wrong with the loco - the power output was there - it was poor adhesion that caused the stop.
@limeyfox
@limeyfox 5 ай бұрын
I wonder how much of the power is being lost through all those steam leaks at the front end, can’t be good for the cylinder packing etc.
@hamshackleton
@hamshackleton 5 ай бұрын
It wasn't lacking power, it was lacking traction!
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Not good, but that didn't cause it to slip?
@thomaspolice9400
@thomaspolice9400 5 ай бұрын
Wasn't leaks, it was relief valves as the pressure in those Cylinders working like that is huge. Valve relief rather than Cylinder Cocks.
@iandocwra1169
@iandocwra1169 5 ай бұрын
Nothing whatsoever to do with a lack of power, or the wheels would not have slipped. Adhesion was the only problem.
@tangerinedream7211
@tangerinedream7211 5 ай бұрын
Went on the Monday, great day, no problems at all. It is a fair old pull up to Ipstones, the S160 could eat it on a butty as that's what it's designed for, a Castle is a racehorse in comparison.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Very true, but this was on the Monday?
@robinnicholson4009
@robinnicholson4009 5 ай бұрын
Impressive filming but what a tragic story, in a sense. I am surprised a small tank engine was not pushing ( but do they have one?) or perhaps a Crompton. A magnificent effort by the loco crew and a very very good example of skill.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Thanks. Don't think they have a small tank engine in service at the moment, and I don't think the steam fans would be impressed with a Crompton. The crew did an excellent job.
@iandocwra1169
@iandocwra1169 5 ай бұрын
Why on earth is it "tragic"? Did anyone die?
@robinnicholson4009
@robinnicholson4009 5 ай бұрын
@@iandocwra1169 a great misfortune to a great engine
@iandocwra1169
@iandocwra1169 5 ай бұрын
@@robinnicholson4009 Really?! It slipped to a stand and re-started - hardly tragic. Such things happen often and no harm was done.
@AussiePom
@AussiePom 3 ай бұрын
@@iandocwra1169 GW small 2-6-2 tank 4566 was withdrawn from service and a whole bunch of this lot went into mourning. It was only withdrawn from service not cut up for scrap. So many of this lot love blow everything out of proportion to make out that it's worse than it really is.
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 5 ай бұрын
Oh well, maybe it shouldn't feel so bad. It's happened to Clun Castle now 😳🧐🥴
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Haha, no just seen that 😬. Like it or not, it shows how important it is to have a diesel on the rear! Good job the 47 wasn't far behind
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 5 ай бұрын
Seems that slipping was the problem rather than lack of tractive effort (and it certainly wasn't short of steam). Didn't seem as if the sanders were being used?
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
No, I had a close look, but couldn't see any sand
@loco42041
@loco42041 5 ай бұрын
When you are at low speed your steam pressure will be at its maximum.
@loco42041
@loco42041 5 ай бұрын
It's down to low speed to begin with thats why it stalled.
@mikerobertson7435
@mikerobertson7435 5 ай бұрын
yes it is a grest video.What is the gradient? The castle driving wheels are really not for steep branch lines. the crew did a fantadtic job re-starting the train after the. stall. Thought that was the point of no return. Also with a 25mph speed limit not mich of a run at the bank
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Thanks 1 in 39 / 1 in 45 . True, no chance of getting a run at it.
@hamshackleton
@hamshackleton 5 ай бұрын
Really struggling!
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Really, really struggling,
@JoshHodginsTrains
@JoshHodginsTrains 5 ай бұрын
Wow
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Yes wow!😀👍
@JoshHodginsTrains
@JoshHodginsTrains 5 ай бұрын
@@philclarke3203 haha
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 5 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s too much acceleration that’s why it slips
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Well controlled though
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 5 ай бұрын
@@philclarke3203yep
@loddon82
@loddon82 7 сағат бұрын
Curveture didn't help, designed for speed on the mainline not sharp curves on a branch line
@maartendelandmeter7705
@maartendelandmeter7705 5 ай бұрын
forgot to maintain vacuum? Gasworks leaky bump.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Maybe
@vikingsmb
@vikingsmb 5 ай бұрын
25mph limit doesnt help
@iandocwra1169
@iandocwra1169 5 ай бұрын
Completely irrelevant - do you think it would have been able to get to 50mph??
@Gary-cvr23
@Gary-cvr23 5 ай бұрын
​@@iandocwra1169 not 50 but a little bit of a run up at leekbrook at 25 then about 30 into the first bit of the incline it depends on whos driving some go slow and some go fast
@TicTacToe3511
@TicTacToe3511 5 ай бұрын
Too heavily loaded
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 5 ай бұрын
I think 9 was the limit over Dainton and Hemerdon, a driver who stopped to ask for assistance with 7 would be 🤨 at
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
It was a lot to ask of the loco
@loco42041
@loco42041 5 ай бұрын
Nothing to do with load?
@james426able1
@james426able1 5 ай бұрын
I think the crew need a re- training on how to operate a steam locomotive even I could do a better job than them two wollies
@MrTumnus1987
@MrTumnus1987 5 ай бұрын
Dude, shut up. Get out your armchair and go train to do it, then go and do it. The crew did an admiral job getting her restarted. When she initially stalls, she stalls with the con rods dead centre which is a difficult position as you can’t really restart on a hill like that. Taking a Castle up a gradient like that is like taking a Greyhound mountaineering. They can do it, but not the best. S160’s on the other hand are just perfect, power and can shift it uphill no problems.
@nigelstott1849
@nigelstott1849 5 ай бұрын
Wonderful film. The crew did really well to get her going again.
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
​@@nigelstott1849thanks, they certainly did 😀
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Looking forward
@philclarke3203
@philclarke3203 5 ай бұрын
Very true 👍​@@MrTumnus1987
@mikerobertson7435
@mikerobertson7435 5 ай бұрын
yes it is a grest video.What is the gradient? The castle driving wheels are really not for steep branch lines. the crew did a fantadtic job re-starting the train after the. stall. Thought that was the point of no return. Also with a 25mph speed limit not mich of a run at the bank
@mikerobertson7435
@mikerobertson7435 5 ай бұрын
yes it is a grest video.What is the gradient? The castle driving wheels are really not for steep branch lines. the crew did a fantadtic job re-starting the train after the. stall. Thought that was the point of no return. Also with a 25mph speed limit not mich of a run at the bank
@iandocwra1169
@iandocwra1169 5 ай бұрын
The gradient is 1 in 40, as stated in the title.
@mikerobertson7435
@mikerobertson7435 5 ай бұрын
yes it is a grest video.What is the gradient? The castle driving wheels are really not for steep branch lines. the crew did a fantadtic job re-starting the train after the. stall. Thought that was the point of no return. Also with a 25mph speed limit not mich of a run at the bank
@iandocwra1169
@iandocwra1169 5 ай бұрын
The title tells us in large characters that it is 1 in 40.
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