40k Detachment Focus - Chaos Knights: Iconoclast Fiefdom

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

3:08 Damn, that stratagem is awful. You're telling me that your AdMech units gain lethal hits, when this army has NO ADMECH UNITS? Massive rules oversight. /s

[@Tehstampede]

I like where (I think) they were trying to go with this one; I'll always appreciate an attempt to make big knights more effective. I don't like that you have to buy another codex in order to use this detachment (even though most CK players probably already have a CSM codex) because you shouldn't have to spend more money on a book you're never going to use just to get the code in the back of the book to use it on GW's app. This detachment was on the right track but could've definitely used a little more time in the oven.

[@humantwist-offcap9514]

Man idk about you guys but I haven’t bought a new codex in like 2 editions.

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

So just a dark mirror to the loyalist one. I'm gonna be honest, this works worse because Cultists suck ass in this role. Skitarii have better statlines than Guardsmen and have way more potent guns (barring the fact that those are much less numerous on the board as they aren't Battleline). Also, Tech Priests can buff and heal up the big boys which makes them a lot more durable than their Chaos counterparts. Sacrificing your (very limited) henchmen for buffs seems like this is all about being aggressive in the early game, which really isn't helpful as you'll quickly run out of bodies as your opponent mows down wave after wave of cultists to deprive your Knights of their Dark Sacrifice units whereas Tech Priests gain loneop and therefore are a lot more consistent when it comes to helping your Knights.

[@GoonhammerTV]

no this is better because Chaos Knights didn't already have Imperial Agents and got much less value out of their Detachment rule.

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

@@GoonhammerTV Fair enough

[@kylewells6871]

Ya know what would have made this cool is if you essentially use the cultists as bodygaurds, where they take wounds rather than the big knights.

[@Tehstampede]

I like that idea. As an "always on" rule I think it would be pretty OP, but as a strat it would be great.

[@lullabygully4621]

It seems like you really only want 2-3 cultist units strictly for sacrifice and its more of decisive strike playstyle

[@otisred7848]

GW missed hard on a chance to bring actual balance to chaos knights. Instead of cultists they should have had this play off the wardogs instead. That way the big knights could give off their aura to the wardogs and the wardogs could buff up the big knights. That would have armies running a balance of bigs and smalls. This is not a good choice

[@redrumssam5888]

Bro, most of the Chaos Knights already give War Dogs RR1s

[@vinolivieri1515]

Bad take, this actually encourages bringing big knights instead of only Wardog spam.

[@kylewells6871]

Hate it, moving on......