40k Lore, Terminator Armour aka Tactical Dreadnought Armour

[@Buckster355]

"Aka that thing would never fucking fly." *And the Thunderhawk would?*

[@RavenWarrior90]

He forgot to mention the most obvious nickname: "the flying land raider" :D

[@GTA_500]

If enough orks believe it it'll fly

[@balazsvarga1823]

Enough thrust can make anything fly.

[@Hadex79]

​@@GTA_500 Figures something would come of the study of Orks.

[@TheCandidPygmy]

"According to all known laws of aviation, a storm raven should not be able to fly!" I believe in you storm raven! Bee all you can bee!

[@ConfusedGuardsman]

I see what you did there you clever little bugger! Good job!

[@jasN86]

@@ConfusedGuardsman Bee. Bugger, I see what you did there!

[@-Big_Big]

the bane of terminator armor. Stairs

[@tbone9474]

Killaim no their bane is worse: a ledge!

[@m4k3r67]

What about a ladder

[@danielchu1539]

@@m4k3r67 play Space Hulk: Deathwing, and its melee

[@lordclangtheintolorable2094]

Or a gap in the road

[@matteussilvestre8583]

"It's over, Terminator Armor! I have the high ground!"

[@barleysixseventwo6665]

"[The Crux Terminatus] is a badge of honor marking someone out as worthy of wearing tactical dreadnought armor..." Because apparently the fact that your wearing the armor is not enough of a clue that you are, in fact, worthy of wearing the armor.

[@98765zach]

Shhhh, fluff is fluff. And Spes Marins love their purity seals and extra armor stuffs.

[@deathreaper019]

I wonder which oils they have to apply to their armor to appease the machine spirit

[@barleysixseventwo6665]

Well, one time Brother Amnesius accidentally forgot which can held the sacred premium, and which held the holy regular. Later that day the suit's joints locked up while he was on the ultraloo. The Techpriests had to rig up a crane just to get him out of the stall.

[@sinwhisper1662]

They're allowed to wear replicas of the badge on their standard armor. The actual use of the terminators is under higher discretion because there are so few available, so not everyone trained to use it is actually using it, but they still get the recognition for it.

[@jeova0sanctus0unus]

I think the idea is that you can be awarded the Crux terminatus for... something you did in battle, even if the Chapter does not have Terminator armor that you can wear because rare.

[@maxpower3990]

the Grey Knights may have enough Terminator armour to outfit their entire Chapter however they're a special case. Close ties to the Inquisition, a home base near Mars and the most dangerous job in the galaxy.

[@maxpower3990]

+Lord Steel it was moved into the warp to hide it during Hours invasion of the Terran system. the fortress is on Saturn's moon of Titan.

[@TKUltra971]

that was during the heresy when malcador the sigillite brought the men who would lay the foundation of the inquisition and grey knights before big E. Then he used his "magics" to hide Saturn's moon Titan within the warp while they prepared. When they emerged they were a fully functional elite demon hunting chapter - chamber militant of the Ordo Malleus. Sorry for nerding out - while i dont collect the table top i do enjoy the video games and the fluff.

[@Galvars]

I think they don't have that much, they have many of them but If I remember correctly in one battle the ad hoc organized Grey Knights strike force "rent" Terminator armors from couple of Chapters to successfully strike the enemy. That did collapse faster thinking they are attacked by multiple Chapters as the original colors ware not removed from armors.

[@maxpower3990]

+Galvars that wouldn't work properly. Grey Knight armour is specifically designed to protect them from daemons and help them boost their psychic powers. while Grey Knights could have worn other Chapters armour it wouldn't have been that much better than normal Grey Knight armour.

[@Galvars]

Max Power I was searching that conflict and I did find it, it was a Thule Decimation of 728.M40. Six companies of Grey Knights equipped with Terminator armor, including suits that had been requisitioned from five other Chapters.

[@Mrchivo33]

*emperor wakes up* -WHERE THE FUCK IS MY ARMOR!?!?

[@ervvmuller6020]

“Highly inaccurate, exceptionally ugly and very heavy on the Boom Boom” That is the best Storm Bolter description I´v ever heard! :-)

[@alyssinclair8598]

you know there is something wrong when space marines in full terminator armor are more agile than the eldar.

[@phinix250]

*insert Thank you gif here* Eldar wraithbone armor offers more speed than any other race how the hell is a clumsy Space marine in Tactical Dreadnought (5+tons) armor going to out maneuver eldar in wraithbone armor (

[@alyssinclair8598]

I am still trying to figure out what they were going for with this.

[@blacklight4720]

Because they are "cock sucking Xenos"

[@synx5196]

+Mortato Doesnthaveasurname looking like moba instead of being loyal to the essence of 40k

[@maxbrandt6]

Until a squad of Dark Reapers rips into them, then they don't move so good.

[@jondeoliveira8248]

The thing about it having a piece of the Emperor's armour could be a misinterpretation of Terminator armour being based on the same technology the Emperor's own armour used. But because this has been forgotten, they simply say it has a piece of the Emperor's own armour in every one.

[@michaelho9346]

I quite like that theory, seems quite possible.

[@jondeoliveira8248]

Michael Ho Most legends in real life are exaggeration of some truth, so this could be one such example.

[@codyraugh6599]

actually, the fragment of the emperor's own armour makes no sense in light of chaos terminator armour having the same force field effect. however the Crux Terminatus does/did have a fragment on the Emperor's own armour after the Emperor himself fell... so most likely it's more SM reverence and mythos, while the admech are equipping virtually all their more important people with a similar shield standard (cult mechanicus codex all techpriests in it have a 5+ even the virtually nude elctropriests) But even a SM disliking guy like me doesn't place the marine's intelligence quite so low, they probably are aware of the shield, but like any good sister player tells you whenever they roll that 6+ for their shield of faith save (despite actually having rolled the 3+ armour save), "it was the emperor".

[@mikea2363]

Jon De Oliveira Well, if we follow the codex Astartes rules about marine numbers, and the estimation of a thousand chapters, we get a total of 100.000 samples of terminator armor in the empire. Of course, this is actually a too high number, since terminator armor is rarely build nowadays, and most chapters would be lucky to have 10. But even with 100.000, they could have pieces of the Emperor's armor, since he was huge, his armor huger and a fragment can be the size of a grain of sand.

[@roguepsykerhaaker4813]

@@mikea2363 Ok yes it's been 3 years, but why does everyone assume the emperor only had one suit of armour? He was constantly making new tech and he would definetly have a back up or 2 in case anyone actually managed to hurt him

[@emirhaneksioglu4503]

The terminator faceplate always reminded me of a lion's face for some reason.

[@98765zach]

I can see where you're coming from on that one actually, and given the history of the imperium of man, that could be what it is supposed to be.

[@emperorconstantine1.361]

understandable, but either way it was made to strike fear into their enemies, so however your mind's eye sees it, it should be somethinh to scare or strike awe into you. so its doing its job now. ;)

[@gagetaylor54]

I always thought that too, that it looked like a lion or a wolf.

[@HeatIIEXTEND]

Elephant for me :]

[@98765zach]

+HeatIIEXTEND chaos does em up like that don't they? Are you a HERETIC mister heat?! Don't worry I already called for the inquisition to exterminatus everyone.

[@swolie]

I sure do love my Tactical Dreadnought armour

[@Galvars]

Ohhh... and your Tactical Dreadnought Armor loves you.

[@swolie]

it better, I rub all sorts of incenses and oils on it every day.

[@Galvars]

Bruda Ezeekiel The Adeptus Mechanicus did not sanction this!

[@swolie]

Have you notice how...Spikey I look?

[@Galvars]

Arch Heretic!

[@riptors9777]

Being trapped inside a terminator armor even happened to an iron warriors warlord in one of the black library books. He was fighting a orc waaghboss when his terminator armor was remotely shut down by a traitorous warsmith. He could not move anymore and the waaghboss simply "peeled" him out of his armor and slaughtered him in a most shamefull way.

[@trinixjin8039]

what a very sad way to go

[@JacatackLP]

Riptors Ah yes that was quite the scene. His bodyguards were teleported into rocks as well

[@Durgwin]

What a horrible way to die

[@lennoxshepherd3905]

kinky

[@JacatackLP]

@@Jack02517 I’d feel bad for them if they weren’t sociopathic slaving genocidal traitorous servants to 4 literally Satans

[@thegrayyernaut]

19:26 "Terminators are ridiculously accurate even at extremely long ranges as they are capable of not only accurately aiming at a target but also automatically account for things like gravity, humidity, wind direction, and the ballistic capabilities of the weapon." - I'll keep that in mind next time one of my Assault Battle-Brothers missed a point-blank shot in a Space Hulk corridor aiming at a Genestealer xD . (well, the Genestealers are probably dodging around but it's still kinda funny)

[@RageTyrannosaurus]

Terminators: Kind of like little walking tanks with bad attitudes. Awesome.

[@98765zach]

That's kinda what dreadnoughts are too.

[@xXBisquitsXx]

Except they aren't so little.

[@Sam-jj5bj]

+98765zach Dreadnoughts are basically angry walking toasters with gatling guns taped onto them.

[@theblackbaron4119]

Samuel Lee dreadnoughts are near dead grandpa doing his last hurrah in his armoured walking angry coffin.

[@crnobog]

The Stormravens ability to fly derives from the fact that they have a little bit of the Emperors breath pumped in to the spaced armor.

[@pedrokdc]

My Explanation For the Crux Terminatus: Chapter Master: Priest why can´t you make all the armor as thought as the Crux? AdMech: Uuuuuuuuhhhhh It´s because it has a holy fragment of the his holiness armor, you are blessed and unique and we lowly AdMech can only make small quantities of Cruxes. Chapter Master: Yes the EMPERORS, Holiness saints... (leaves the room chanting gospels) AdMech: Idiot, now back to over-designing Titans :)

[@jemperdiller]

I love how easy Blahd Ravens losing their Termies left and right in DOW games (especially DOW2). In "reality" a single loss of such a unit must cause a loyalist commander to shit more bricks than Slaanesh ass can accomodate.

[@marshallinnocent5275]

They recover the armor post battle, often through teleportation beacons if the battlefield isn't secured. They all have beacons built into them and are more valuable than the marine inside.

[@tomboysupremacist]

@@marshallinnocent5275 I wouldn't say that. Each terminator marine is a veteran usually with centuries of experience in battle

[@SeanCrosser]

@@tomboysupremacist and more veterans are made at the rate of 1 day per day, meanwhile new Terminator armors are made at a rate of 0 per day

[@tomboysupremacist]

@@SeanCrosser not true, indomitus pattern terminator armor is still being produced but only really enough to make up for attrition

[@robotdragon451]

So your telling me that terminators can't run 100 mph then kill a shit ton of eldar? I think relic got this right!

[@livingbiovirus]

To be fair terminator armour would be more effective against somthing like orcs. Eldar is whaay to fast in movement.

[@williamtimonen6814]

+living bio.virus I actually think their skill with the storm Bolter still would make them a threat, but I agree that they are better against hordes. Or other things that arent strong enough to really penetrate the armour enough to crap on them.

[@98765zach]

+JoeRingo118 "I have come to destroy you" *crunch* *flamethrower*

[@squirrel_killer-]

Terminator Armour would be perfect for Orcs, Eldar... quite easy for them to dodge behind a marine in terminator armour and shoot him in (comparatively) squishy behind

[@potatocrusader79]

JoeRingo118 the dreadnoughts are somewhat fully mechanical (except for the marine inside) so it has more effective ways i think to move its appendages

[@Feminismisfornobody]

Stormshields were the bane of my life when i played 40K

[@98765zach]

The saves, so many, my guardsmen never have any chance... Not that they had much of one anyway, they are squishy little bastards after all. Really they're just there to absorb shots for my tanks.

[@tadcoder2848]

Wait ......What? You Grimdark Bruh?

[@Gigas0101]

Technically guards can be great against terminators. When you first rank fire second rank fire with a full squad there's a pretty good chance some of those saves are gunna be 1s.

[@codyraugh6599]

that's how you kill most threats in table top. so long as you can hurt it, massing the wounds on the target will statistically cause it to die. a few monstrous creatures (admech kastellan robots), and vehicles (land raiders) require stronger weapons, it's easy enough to prepare for most armies (even Sisters can fight against most armies)...it's rare to find something that you cant fight, like a 2 plus rerollable invulnerable saves with D psi abilities.

[@Gigas0101]

cody raugh Part of why I like the Tau, that quantity with a bit of quality thrown in as well. I want to get into the Orkz but I can't think of something about them that I'd want to do and the 'green tide' the codex seems based around doesn't really appeal to me.

[@phillipbelga7788]

I really want to see a dedicated Imperial Guard fps game. I don't know why but I think it would be fun in a challenging kind of way.

[@williamtimonen6814]

They would have to either nerf all enemies, ot just put you against the same scrubs all the time.

[@phinix250]

It would have to be squad based because a single guardsman would get owned by just about anything in the WH40k universe. unless he is a Catachan or storm trooper.

[@phillipbelga7788]

Yea I know but I feel like someone could make a really good game that way if they got creative about it. Maybe it could be a horror-esque game where you are the last survivors from a chaos invasion of your planet and you and your squad are trying to find a way off the planet or contact the imperium or something of that sort. So you could fight the normal cultists and such, and then like you would be forced to hide or kite the chaos marines and stuff. Just like you know an idea of something I thought could be cool.

[@phillipbelga7788]

Like if you have ever played metroid fusion, the chaos Marines could be aometbing like Samus-X. Where you like always run from it or hide and you would just see it walk by and reck something.

[@VojislavMoranic]

That would be cool, but a Guardsman can most surely kill a Space marine and even a dreadnot, when you overcharge your las it rips up the frontal armor of dreadnots quite quickly. Also It would be a very veeeeeeeery cool single player and a good MP. I like your idea very much. Surviving on a newly occupied planet, fighting corruption and treason amongst your own. But it would be cool to start of as either a PDF soldier or Guardsman and prepare for invasion and then desperate battles, heartbreaking scenes, ambushes and then guerrila warfare and in the end you get rescued and shot because nobody can remain untainted on a chaos world. The true 40k atmosphere

[@bkingk8]

in original lore the armour was based upon heavy industrial workers suits for use inside things like plasma (?) generators.

[@ultramarinescaptain3840]

I think it was designed as a mining suit.

[@arayagerardo]

@@ultramarinescaptain3840 if those suits were made for industrial work, just imagine the technology the humans actually had in the past...

[@Bankstercide]

It is unreasonable for the lore to make Terminator Armour standard kit for the Legions for the very reasons you stated. The Space Marines were envisioned (originally) in the lore as a sort of elite force suited for a wide range of unusual and difficult missions, like the irl Rangers, Airborne or Royal Marines, but not like the smaller SpecOps outfits like SEALs or SAS. Moving fast and striking hard were paramount for such forces, for which Terminator Armour is singularly unsuited. The only justification behind using Terminator suits was in conjunction with the Teleportarium, which can deliver them directly on top of the target. The Titan-equipped Corvus Assault Pod is another good, but situational alternative. IIRC, the Marine Captain in Space Hulk had a spiffy Grenade Launcher attached to his Power Fist that made Genestealers go boom. Did that ever make its way to the tabletop? The Crux Terminatus was supposed to be a Conversion Field Generator, like the Rosarius; that damn "sliver of Emperor's Armour" crap was passed on to the Praesidium Protectiva. I blame bad writing for that. I submit that the reason models like the Stormraven look like a flying brick is because GW wanted to squeeze Super-Heavy vehicles into a tabletop game. Compare the Baneblade from the original Epic and that for the Tabletop.

[@SimplyAzrail1]

The "I believe I can fly" part killed me :D

[@niklase.4850]

Azrail AKA "That thing would never fucking fly" or "The Brick"

[@robouteguilliman6662]

I am surprised that you can make a half hour video about Terminator Armor.

[@blackvial]

he could have gone for longer if he added in the different patterns of Terminator Armor

[@captainhindsight6994]

It's arch. He can make a 30 minute video on the inner working of a minute lol.

[@lokenontherange]

I'd still be sitting here four hours later as he explains how Abbadon and Lysander are the two best users of terminator armour in history and five hours later when he goes into the various tunnel and sewer fighting uses that such armour tends to be employed in.

[@rogaldorn4005]

Hello Brother. I see you have woken up. I have comforted our father in my centurion armor for a while.

[@wtrdawnlord]

It shouldn't be that surprising when you consider he can't just say "terminator armour is incredibly heavy." Instead he has to spend nearly 3 minutes repeating in as many ways as he could muster just how heavy it is. I don't know if he thinks we are all too stupid to understand "heavy" without all the comparisons and analogies or he has a goldfish memory and forgets he's already said it is heavy 5 or 16 times. Don't forget he pads every video by at least 10 minutes by describing everything as either "very, very" or "very, very, verrry".

[@ergoproxy2461]

Arch - you are simply the best warhammer KZbinr in the market! Keep it going bro XD

[@gagetaylor54]

Much agreed...

[@rafalkruszewski1046]

Close call between Arch and Leutin09, both make incredible videos - if I find anyone confused about Warhammer, I always recommend those two channels.

[@williamtimonen6814]

+Rafal Kruszewski My favourite has always been the very lore-accurate idiot known as Bruva Alfabusa...

[@MrPiccolop]

And 40k tHEORIES .. V.KOOL

[@dr.krieger5847]

Along with vaults of terra

[@williambibens4508]

Bring me my centurion.

[@williamwhitehouse8741]

adorable

[@TheRealXartaX]

Someone got triggered by the dow3 trailer

[@Litany_of_Fury]

makes me slit my ankles

[@orkhepaj]

have u seen it? it is complett bs

[@DaytonaRoadster]

I was just gonna see

[@CommanderSkull]

A lot of people got like that after witnessing the heresy it was.

[@Litany_of_Fury]

Looks like it's gonna be on xbox...

[@mikhielthorsson6033]

I love how you use the verbiage, "blown the fuck up", "fucking massive" "fucking shouldn't fly". I'm a 27yr US Army Vet, so we use the word fuck, a fucking hell of a lot!

[@tecramos]

When he speaks i often imagine Arch as a well dress gentleman with a big moustache sitting on a chair next to a fireplace.

[@NomadicDave2032]

Love your videos, your sarcasm and wit are legendary lol.

[@JCDenton2012Modder]

You know how Gabriel Angelos was able to make those jumps... well... as a Blood Raven, he saw a dropped penny on the other side and decided that it was gifted.

[@gregorydaack7354]

Hearing Arch say, "Whoop-Ass", might be the best part of my morning.

[@arnepietruszewski9255]

The Stormraven is like the Spaceshuttle, yes the control surfaces are to small but it flies anyway. I think the Empire took a good long look at ork tech and decided "You dont need to know how it works, as long as it does". Or put a large enough engine on something and it will fly.

[@voiddragon903]

Would you mind doing a video on actual dreadnoughts?

[@littletoast9465]

Just recently got in the 40k universe and have been binging lore videos for the past few days. Out of the few channels I've watched, yours by far has the highest quality.

[@brainplay8060]

About the Crux Terminatus and the piece of the Emperor's armor. You don't need to infuse finger size chunks into the item. Scraping a few molecules off would be sufficient and could last for millions of suits. You could probably get away with the same if it was on the nano scale level which is something even we're capable of doing today.

[@SeanCrosser]

Homeopathic Emperor's Armor, amazing.

[@Jonra1]

This whole thing makes me think, that tripping these guys over would be really effective. :P

[@toomanyaccounts]

they would more likely just break through whatever would try to trip them.

[@crabdragon243]

It's been shown in one of the books that once a terminator falls down, they can't even get back up. However, it would take something DAMN STRONG to even trip one.

[@violet9214]

+toomanyaccounts A psyker

[@HaloFTW55]

Unless you're a Primarch or a very strong Psyker... good luck.

[@cailumgrantham-tibbitt8543]

“Brother help! I have fallen and can not get up”

[@intergalacticgunman2039]

please do a video like this about the even heavier Centurion Armour

[@arnepietruszewski9255]

Arch, anything can fly. At least once if dropped from a suitable height.

[@50043211]

The original Tactical Dreadnought Suits where created for scrapping, aka cleaning, out plasma reactors from within. Well, that was stated in the WH40k Compendium in the 80´s. ;)

[@sosomadman]

50043211 yeah I'm surprised there's no mention of this.

[@emersonmacintosh7673]

Watching from the viewport, he shielded his eyes as the Ultramarine's battle barge core went critical, blinding light escaping from the jigsaw of ruptures spreading across its hull. As his eyes adjusted, the Crimson Fist thought: "They can afford it."

[@aimiliosmaleficus9892]

I got to run now, I will leave this pure uncut cocaine open for when I come back.

[@captainhindsight6994]

.......sniff...........AAARRRGGGHHHHHHHG

[@ecchihead]

correction...... sniff...............WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHH

[@ecchihead]

+Ork Historian and you sir, are an opinionated Shit

[@99allthetime]

^ this guy is why GorkaMorka is a goddamned thing. You my "stoopid git iz da wurst grot luvvin plop handler dat deze cybork eyez have evuh seen".

[@tankbuster626]

Aimilios Maleficus 'Doomrider rides in out of nowhere and snatches the cocaine up'. "THANKS DUDE!"

[@TurboSquiid]

"Because losing a squad of terminators just because their vehicle blew the fuck up is a very, very bad way of using terminators" dying :')

[@ryangrant9885]

"The Landraider tactic does have one drawback however, the simple fact that Landraiders are fucking massive. And very very very powerful, meaning that the enemy in all due likelihood is going to have a massive firepower hard on for anything that vaguely resembles a landraider." 23:23 dying :')

[@maxissixam6049]

Anyone ever notice that there are ALOT of Chaos Marines with Terminator armor?

[@KeishinB237]

I think it's just cause they stole a shit ton em from both the imperials and themselves. There were alot more sets around back then than there are now so it makes sense.

[@MrSporkdude]

Yeah because terminator armour was alot more popular in the days of the Horus heresy

[@sembowden2893]

Lunarl Mune nah it’s actually rarer among chaos warbands, but the legions as a whole will have more because well, they are legions

[@Ryze255]

thank you for clearly explaining this aspect of 40k. you are very well-spoken and its nice to see someone giving a solid explanation of the rabbit hole that is 40k. hats off to u brother

[@SultanOfAwesomeness]

Uncle Arch's story time! Yay! (x2)

[@VandalAudi]

No Jumping in a terminator armor,... except maybe Primachs. Gabriel Angelos, jumps and backflips in a terminator armor.

[@nix7100]

Im Laughing so hard now... CUZ GABRIEL ANGELOS CAN'T JUMP LIKE RABBIT IN FULL TERMINATOR PLATE lol

[@szewc0svd]

don't forget jongeling demonhammer during jumps :D

[@phinix250]

yep since demonhammer is a freaking oversized thunder hammer which in itself is bloody heavy.

[@szewc0svd]

Especially if they just could replace those insane jumps with teleport homer like in DoW2. But with all those bright glowing markers it's almost screams Korean lvl micro required. It seems they are taking sharp turn into Warcraft 3 or MOBA play mechanics.

[@grantharriman284]

For some strange reason I just thought of a bunch of marines hiding waiting for a first company elite to come home for a surprise birthday party and seeing a missile blow up the land raider he was driving to get home and one of the marines just turning to the rest and saying in the most exasperated voice possibe "Damnit. Now he's gonna be late."

[@Mikey__R]

Every so often, I take a look at whats going on in the 40k universe. Today, I discovered that GM have introduced Space Marine Centurions. WFT?? Surely we are starting to overload the levels of armour? Madness.

[@cryhavoc196]

Its funny watching this 7 years later cuz "They fly now"

[@emperorconstantine1.361]

Also please do a Centurion war plate too, please?

[@spiritvdc5109]

Terminators being covered by squads of troops in normal power armor... reminds me of tanks being escorted by infantry lol

[@ianmcshane51]

Not trying to be that guy, but bolter rounds are 19mm low-velocity AP explosive two stage propellant rounds. Not 40mm grenades, they are way fucking cooler. Heavy bolters like those used by imperial guard heavy bolter teams, devastator astartes squads, and those mounted on certain vehicles are 25.4mm.

[@64gaelan]

Ian McShane I'm not sure which book you read that from but Bolters change caliber fairly often depending on what you are reading. For instance they used to be 75 cal, rocket propelled ap with some kind of deep penetrating explosive.

[@Kevineitor199]

mechanicus cleric: *hits blunt* "what if we put more armour in the armour?"

[@tacticalurbanhomo5930]

Questioning the authenticity of the Crux Terminatus? That's a blamming.

[@HammarPwnsYourFace]

“Boatload of terminator butt sex via land raider vehicles”....thats so awesome and scary at the same time.... 🤣

[@DTSephiroth]

"The Stormbolter is what would happen if a Saiga-12 fucked a Mk19" Time Index about 10:00 Pretty accurate actually....

[@Sturm01]

I'm pretty sure the Mk19 would be the one doing the fucking.

[@DTSephiroth]

@@Sturm01 You're not wrong....

[@kai_plays_khomus]

_Terminator Armor_ isn't the same as a _Dreadnought_ - the former is essencially _Astartes Armor_ on roids and derived from dark age safety equipment for construction work under harshest conditions. The latter _Dreadnought_ on the other hand is an often times ancient fusion of a mech and an iron lung so to say, with a stump of an _Astartes_ who actually should have been dead but refused to die so they could put what little is left of him, oftentimes quite literally nothing but a brain and half a chest plucked into the most advanced life support systems the Imperium _can still somehow maintain_ as well as the machine as such so the lumb of flesh could move the mech as if it was their long gone body and perceive the environment via the mechs inbuild sensory system's input fed into his brain - otherwise his existence is limited to a coffin, floating in organic fluid and total darkness unless called into battle sometimes for centuries at a time while essencially incapable of dying, unable to end it yourself unless slain in battle and almost inevitably devolving into madness at some point - for this reason inactive Dreadnoughts are usually kept sedated/asleep when not deployed although there appearently are Chaos Dreadnoughts lacking access to certain compounds and therefore forced to consciouly experience the whole everlasting ordeal.

[@endered175]

Could you do a video on the Tankth first and only? That would be awesome!

[@endered175]

*Tanith

[@Toner_Cartirdge]

I know Vaults of Terra has a video on them, but his style is much more to the point than Arch's. I agree that imperial guard regiments in general would be awesome!

[@Screamingmanta]

Ibram Gaunt and his merry men need alot more recognition.

[@unimportus4539]

+dansku97 every single one of his videos is reading off the lexicanum

[@reecedignan8365]

While I would like to hear about the tanith first and only, I'm not so keen to hear about Gaunt (while I do love his books series) I would definitely prefer hear a video on a true 'HERO OF THE IMPERIUM' - Ciaphas Cain and his regiment of the 597th Valhallan Ice Warriors. Definitely a better hero than Gaunt.

[@KaiserAfini]

Me: Tactical dreadnought? What tactic? Arch: Bigger hammer theory

[@Itisoverthere-rw]

Arch, you mentioned 40mm bolt rounds. Well, that's the calliber I would expect for stadard space marine bolters based on the models and artwork. I am just curious as to why GW hasn't retconed the whole .75 calliber for standard bolters and 1.00 calliber for heavy bolters. It is simply obvious that these numbers are false (at least for space marine weapons). Would it be too hard for them to release a comparison between imperial bolt weapons? I mean like, "The space marines use these bolters.., the SoB..., the Comissars... other imperial officials... the Inquisition...".

[@JohnBrowningsGhost]

Non power armored humans use smaller bolt weapons, .50 I think for guard and bolt pistols.

[@lt.branwulfram4794]

No wonder why we in the Raven Guard are short on Tactical Dreadnought armour. Those Deathwing wankers in the Dark Angels chapter have been hoarding all of them.

[@vulcanjoe8258]

Dawn of war 2 styled the way Terminator armour works really good. Slowly smashing through wall barriers, just walking like a living tank especially if you put a hero in it. I don't blame Arch getting pissy at the Dawn of War 3's moba styled jump, it's quite frankly ridiculous.

[@redfox4242]

That was thoroughly fascinating. I don't normally pay careful attention to KZbin but I watched that video all the way from start to finish. Thanks for sharing this information.

[@-Big_Big]

where do the space marine store all their ammo. it seems hard to stack that many clips anywhere

[@Luiacy]

They're regular power armor has magnetic capabilities allowing magazines and weapons to be stored there. Alternatively they also sometimes have either inbuilt belts, that can dispense grenades at the touch of a button, or combat webbing and belts for weapons and ammo. Terminator armor/power armor with a heavy weapon marine usually have ammo stored in the armor itself.

[@SparkingPony]

alternatively: adding ammo pouches and belts on Termies doesn't look cool so GW never thought to include them on the models and drawings.

[@fashionsoulsonlysouls5575]

Or their Torso sized shoulder pauldrons SERIOUSLY THO! LOOK AT THEM

[@sethgilcrist8088]

@@fashionsoulsonlysouls5575 and suddenly the massive shoulder guards get explained there ammo bins

[@TheMuffinGnome]

"...and very heavy on the boom-boom" best description of a storm bolter ever xD

[@SamTheManWhoCanTwice]

Hey Arch, Id love to hear a video of the history of the table top game itself, when was 40k introduced? when where different races introduced etc etc. thanks and keep it up!

[@DarkEnergy130]

oh god Arch you made me fall out of my chair laughing about the "Brick"

[@themidnightanimal1555]

God I love that, "If a Saiga12 fucked a Mk19." I loved my old Mk19, so many people hated her, they just didn't understand, she was my sugar momma.

[@HammarPwnsYourFace]

3 years later...now we can see the smartass starting to come. Out....cheers from October 2019!! Keep up the awesome work!!

[@Evan-qn2cj]

Would love to see some Arch Space Hulk gameplay after hearing this :)

[@NetMoverSitan]

It's also used in Space Hulk incursions. | 15:17 - (Thunderstruck - AC/DC starts playing)

[@d180jnr]

Hey could you do a video on Killa kans and deff dreads?

[@zacen12]

killa kans are more of an Dreadnought than a titan (using relic games as a source)

[@Sagnus1]

Dreads and Kans are *way* too small to be considered titans, they are about Tau battle-suit or astartes dreadnought sized but held together with twine and wishful thinking... which as we know somehow works for orks.

[@mrcmoney1584]

He did not, but I'm just going-off memory.

[@williamtimonen6814]

+zacen12 They are not titans, but the difference between an ork-gargant, and a killa kan/deff dredd is only in size.

[@zacen12]

william timonen what i meant is what they are more classified as ya know since they are normally as big as a dreadnaught and hell of a lot smaller than a gargant.

[@Laeknishendr]

As an new guy to this fantastic universe i just want to thank you for all lore you have released here on youtube. I greatly appreciate it. Thank you

[@sim.frischh9781]

If i had to decide between the finest tailored tuxedo or a Terminator Power Armor, i would like to have my armor in anthrazite color with deep red markings. By the way, i can´t find that vid about Terminator armor types on your channel, have i missed it or is that not yet finished?

[@robertnelson9599]

Not done yet.

[@Viktoria_Thaelin]

Storm shield and thunder hammer, and lightning claws where special honors that had to be earned

[@fren111]

And the centurion? marine space inside an space marine kkkkkkkkkk

[@Transmissional]

I am not used to sitting through such a long video, especially on youtube..but you give a good piece of 40k lore so it's all rather interesting :)

[@emperorconstantine1.361]

the thunderhammer also only works its energy field upon impact as well. and u also missed that terminator armor is uncomfortable to wear for super extended time. could you also do a Dreadnought video please!?!

[@emperorconstantine1.361]

um...I havent found it, so either I just cant find it or you haven't gotten to it yet...but could you also do a Imperial Knight video?

[@vaporhtrail4350]

Your intro reminded me of the good old days of the history channel.

[@lordvarrax5060]

Pretty sure my iPad case is made out of Terminator armour-my iPad has never broken despite being dropped multiple times amongst other things over the course of four years.

[@sethgilcrist8088]

I'm sure it's has more to do with the blessings you have been remember to say over it. Please fucking work It's the pray of profanity

[@zachbuchholz6034]

this is the best lore of termi armor I've seen yet. also I can explain crux terminatus having a piece of the emporers armor primarchs who died had there armor also used this means sanguineus and the others it makes up for the unreasonable amount of pieces. keep it up m8t.

[@davoodoo8042]

Arch, could you do a video about ww2 general tank usage and tactics??

[@98765zach]

Does Arch do history stuff, because I would watch that.

[@sjoerddz]

he made a few videos about ww2 rifles and such

[@sjoerddz]

***** arch has done multiple ww2 videos in the past

[@ToasterLover69]

I laughed my ass off = ) how did the cat so fat? "the flying brick" such an funny episode... Well done!

[@CraigArgyleAudio]

0/10, no backflipping Mary Sues found.

[@Kareszkoma]

"With enough thrust it will fly!" - Ork translation from crazy Mek Ork.

[@phreakazoith2237]

according to Fiaura there are Ork crafts with negative lift that will never fly no matter how much thrust you generate

[@Kareszkoma]

​@@phreakazoith2237 Those are mainly imperial fighters, as some of the orc crafts are based on real world fighters. They also don't have enough flaps, and in atmosphere they wouldn't be able to turn very fast. However she based her stuff on real world. If you put a thruster on the bottom of your fighter, even if it's a ball, you will fly. Other imperial ships had the problem of mass. Huge mass, means huge trust. But at a certain point, you make so much trust that would be enough to carve the landing zone away, with the city on it. Generally, with 40k technology, anti grav, repulsors, and variable vector thrust.. well things are okay. Orcs mostly just put a giant rocket on their ship and fly till it runs out.

[@joshuaarnett762]

Can you do a video on regular and venerable dreadnaughts?

[@JustaGuy_Gaming]

I think the other major drawback to Terminator armor is "nearly invulnerable" isn't the same as "invulnerable". This is pretty clear in the Novels in where they are cut down like fields of wheat far to often by Xeno weapons that flat out ignore armor. Be it the claws of Tyranids or insane tech of the Necrons far to many races deploy things that just make terminators big slow targets. In table top terms a 1 in 6 chance of failing your armor save even vs a lasgun is just embarrassing at times. That a catachan guardsmen with a bare chest that takes cover and thus gets a 3-4+ invulnerable save is better protected is some what funny at times.

[@PhthaloGreenskin]

Or angron with 12 bloodthirsters bringing down a company of 130 grey knights in terminator armor to just 13 survivors before being banished during the 1st war for Armageddon.

[@nicholasogburn7746]

Well, Dawn of War III didn’t pay attention to the fluff here...

[@balazsvarga1823]

I think the marine could run, or even jump, the strength is there. However momentum would still be trouble, since it is a multi ton suit and would not be easy to stop once it gets charging. A lot of older lore has the marines weaker, like how storm bolter was not really accurate, and the assault cannon broke down a lot. And while a lot of veterans can use it with speed, Devastators and Havocs with lascannons are a thing. Also, power weapons negate atomic bonds with a disruption field. Kind of like a necron gauss weapon or its less powerful cousin, the klingon disruptor. All types of matter disintegrate like very fine dust.

[@TheRaven067]

Why don't they take XCOM's approach and make a WH40K turn based game?

[@prisonerofthehighway1059]

TheRaven067 - it already exists. It’s called Chaos Gate and it’s from the late 90’s. Still a pretty good game. I wouldn’t mind seeing a new game though.

[@coziestexpert7164]

Also Deathwatch tyranid invasion is a really good one.

[@dropdead234]

Need to do a video on the Blueball Bastards (Ultrasmurfs.) especially now that Papa Smurf is back. Hearing the venom drip from Arch's voice would be hilarious. Then, maybe one of the Inquisition coming up behind good ol'Papa, saying |No, heretic!" then blamming him in the back of the head. DEATH TO THE FIFTH CHAOS LORD!

[@Rogerio_FM]

I only wish real world history was that fun, I would have become a historian for sure.

[@1simo93521]

It is, watch extra credits history. and listen to the dan carling hardcore history podcast. Both excellent interesting sources.

[@Rogerio_FM]

Hey thanks, interesting suggestion, searching for them now, it's hard to find good suggestions like these.

[@kano101435]

Rogerio This is history ye fockin pleb Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[@vadymkuzeminskiy]

If you ever bothered to try real life history you would know that it is in some ways even crazier than fiction. Extra Credits History is really a good start for a newbie.

[@Witen89]

It is, you just have to find a subject you like

[@tysongardner2821]

Great video Arch, your expressionism is what makes your videos, love listening to you please keep them coming. 👍

[@rahbaralhaq]

Now I want GW to f*ck up more stuff so I can get more of these good stuff more often...

[@TheJayjam]

Just a question of time

[@98765zach]

+Jan Sturm simply ask, and Matt ward shall deliver. Nothing is sacred, all is fluff.

[@sebbonxxsebbon6824]

Matt moved on (got fired).

[@Shalterra]

He didn't get fired. He left to work on his own projects. Despite the hate towards Ward, his later works were actually pretty solid. When he wrote the Khornate Knights and all that jazz he was a brand new fluff writer who was given basically free reign. He has even said he had no idea what he was doing. It doesn't excuse the "spiritual liege" stuff that's still canon today, but regardless. It's mostly just the community of unrepentant neckbeards sticking to an idea because it gives them something to bitch about.

[@98765zach]

+Shalterra I know, it's just become a running joke among my friends who play 40k. I guess it just isn't as widely used as a joke. It'll be things like "throw ultramarines into eye of terror, ultramarines come out without a single casualty. Thanks Matt". We also have a friend whose name is Matt Ward(no relation) so we just joke around. I didn't mean to start a comment war.

[@imperitortitan205]

Love these lore vids some people just list info but you just make them so much funnier xD

[@arwing20]

All well and good but it will still get shredded by genestealers

[@codyarcher3263]

at least if they dodge the storm bolter or assult cannons MANY MANY pointy objects

[@Reven619]

Honestly. Space marines should make their armor out of gene stealer claws. Since it can pierce stuff that is stronger than the exterior of a warp ship

[@codyarcher3263]

Also seeing a game with genestealers they have no survivability with bolters mowing them down as they didnt seem to have armor saves

[@ThePandoraGuy]

thegreeenbeast :D

[@dt3963]

The shear sarcasm in your videos is gold. Never change

[@1xoACEox1]

One of my biggest pet peevs with 40K is stuff like this. The constant "this is really powerful but theres only a handful of them left/the technology is lost/it takes too long to build". Like I get that that's the whole part of the imperium, Technology and building things is just as much religious ritual as it is science. Theres what, over a million planets in the imperium? im sorry NOTHING is too steep in resources when you have that much material and man power to call on. You could dedicate 10,000 worlds to terminator, dreadnought, titan, whatever production and the imperium wouldn't even feel it. If shit like terminator armours so good mass produce it. If its too costly or the technology is lost (which is bullshit) make an alternative. Why is there only a million space marines?? The population of the imperium must be obscene there would be so many candidates. OR if the procedure is too expensive again and not enough subjects survive why not make another, lesser superhuman programme. A middle ground between super soldier and grunt guardsmen. like spartan IVs in halo. Something that's cheap and doesn't kill most candidates. A real human imperium would have done this by now. IN short, the imperium should have won ages ago. AND yes I get that most of 40K is deliberately laid out by GW to be a stalemate so the story can continue. AND I get that this stuff is true of the other races too I just get more annoyed with the space marine side. Just something that's always bothered me.

[@toomanyaccounts]

it takes decades to make something really complex and the skills to do so are very limited. so its a lot more complex then dedicating planets.

[@phinix250]

The adeptus mechanicus is very restrictive on the availability of STCs which are near on impossible to reproduce properly now (they have reproduced them but most of the time with shortcuts and resulted in machines that pale in comparison to the original design), they do not want to lose a single STC let alone put one in the hands of Chaos forces. just because there are 100 forge worlds in the imperioum does not mean they can all build Terminator amour because they simply do not have the designs required to do so, Only Mars has all the STCs currently known to man and it is busy building things from titans to land raiders to baneblades because they are more powerful than terminator amour. (they do produce terminator armor too but not in large quantities).

[@pyrosauria7444]

Yeah...GW isn't very good with designing there setting. I mean why is so much technology being lost?! And don't tell me it's all chaos cause there's no way they cause so much decline.

[@victorcastanet6980]

Another fact to note is that not only does the Mechanicum produce war-based products, but also creates all technology utilized by the Imperium of Man. An example being that forge worlds are known to create fertilizers to keep Agricultural Worlds fertile and efficient.

[@1xoACEox1]

Yes thank you people I am quite extensively aware of 40K lore..... I understand the lore reasons these things can or cant be made. Im just saying the "oh we`ve only got a handful of *insert completely op war winning item* to use" mechanic GW use in everything gets to me sometimes. ANd that realistically a real human race would have found a way round it and progressed, not be so rigid.