Why Perturabo is the Greatest Traitor Primarch | Warhammer 40k Lore

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The Traitor legions were an absolute mess during the Horus Heresy, fumbling an easy victory due to their own chaotic nature. However the one traitor who was different from the rest was Perturabo
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[@majorkill]

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[@blackjacklover99]

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[@grantpaterson1016]

Here's a question: When the Big E spoke and Mortarian heard, he was full of regret and Papa N had to summon him back to the outhouse.... What if the Big E sealed and repaired the hole in Pertys soul then said 'Sorry for his inadequacy in recognising his skills and, previous, loyalty. Do you think Perty could be turned again....like Morty would obviously be??

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[@boartank]

Lord Majorkill?

[@TwojaStaraIFrytki]

I love how Perty does in the Siege of Terra - did his job, then left, while showing everyone his favourite finger

[@synergy8879]

“later bitch.”

[@Corsair2092gaming]

I did what I wanted to do.

[@theHedgex1]

Giga Chad

[@Jacob-gv7it]

Perty: *points at horus* "fuck you" *points at fulgrim* "fuck you" *points at angron* "fuck you" *points at mortation* "fuck you" IM OUT! *leaves Terra*

[@ivansleepy4722]

@@Corsair2092gaming dude, you still dying? I'm genuinely worried.

[@_NIKOS9_NIKOS]

Traitors at 100% strength: Horus, Magnus, Angron, Perturabo , Lorgar, Fulgrim , Konrad, Alpharius, Omegon and Mortarion Traitors at 95% strength: Perturabo and Mortarion Traitors at 60% strength: Perturabo

[@pietroarrigoni6761]

Konrad snowballed Lion and Guilliman for a good couple of years. Crazy Batman isn't respectable, but he deserves respect

[@alfieingrouille1528]

@@pietroarrigoni6761 all the traitor primarchs deserve more respect

[@jakehughes6087]

@@alfieingrouille1528 fulgrim deserves respect? Hahahahaha no

[@nicholassmith7984]

Traitors at 120% strength: Horus, Magnus, Angron, Perturabo , Lorgar, Konrad, Omegon and Mortarion

[@alfieingrouille1528]

@@jakehughes6087 I meant by the cvommunity but yes each traitor primarch should be given more attention in the lore if your not happy with that then too bad

[@kirkdyteo993]

Perturabo (including Mortarion) is like that one pro player trying so hard to carry their team

[@alfieingrouille1528]

Yes just yes finally someone not shitting morty

[@gallowglass3764]

Morty wanted to form his own team, too. Halfway through the HH.

[@Yuiichiiro]

@@alfieingrouille1528 I wouldn't say he's ineffective but he's a damn hypocrite.

[@alfieingrouille1528]

@@Yuiichiiro that's like best aspect of his character it makes him feel like a more compelling and more relatable and tragic character I can't understand why so many people hate that about him its part of who he is but its written in such an amazing way

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

@@Yuiichiiro when you’ve already committed yourself to a cause you hate, against your very nature even, is there way not to be hypocritical? The emperor might’ve been making the web way to ensure humanities safety from chaos, but he was never gonna get rid of them, at least there seemed to be a chance to remain warp free once mortarion broke away. konrad and his night lords managed after all. Nurgles plans for mortarion were too well planted for that to ever work though.

[@RogueFox2185]

Perturabo really clutched up during the final hours of the heresy, unfortunately for him however his teammates were more PVP oriented and the Raid Boss (Emperor) had wiped their second best DPS player.

[@johnquach8821]

One of the players was on drugs (Fulgrim) One of them was just attacking in a blind rage (Angron) One became AFKd/Character killed early (Alpharius) And one didn't really want to play objective (Magnus)

[@robertspeedwagon982]

Nah, Perty isn't a DPS, he's a support or tank (Gigachad)

[@cherryshark9170]

Pertu and Morto are the real Carries of the team

[@Mr.40Bang]

@@cherryshark9170 Mortarion refused to follow Perturabo into battle whenever Perty successfully breached the palace. None of the Primarchs joined his assault except once and they scattered. Mortarion only focused on killing civilians around Terra and got clapped by Jaghatai, which resulted in him being banished into the warp. He contributed nothing to the siege aside from hitting useless objectives that the daemons and cultists were already handling.

[@gustavchambert7072]

@@johnquach8821 more like angron was doing a permanent Leroy Jenkins

[@testinghydra5652]

Alpharius had an interesting view of Perturabo, he stated that he believes Perturabo was the humblest of the Primarchs. Which at first doesn't make sense as Perturabo is super bitter and resentful. But when you think about it, he never went beyond his legion in his complaints, never demanded remembrancers to honor and celebrate the Iron Warriors. Never seemed to openly complain about anything, and never refused any battle because he considered himself above it.

[@discipleofdagon8195]

and the amount of legwork he did. A lot of victories of other legions stand on the shoulders of the iron warriors.

[@ChaplainPhantasm]

Alpharius of all the Primarchs complimenting Perty. That's new.

[@discipleofdagon8195]

@@ChaplainPhantasm Dude was really good at reading people (allegedly) and he was (allegedly) there for the recovery of every primarch but (allegedly) not Angron for (allegedly) predictable reasons

[@philip8498]

@@discipleofdagon8195 jokes on you, angron is (allegedly) just alpharius in disguise. Have you ever seen the two primarchs in the same room together? and even if you did, how do you know it was alpharius?

[@Archon3960]

@@ChaplainPhantasm Or was it Omegon? :)

[@TNDTKDTTDTID]

Based and ironpilled

[@AussieGamer-jd6qd]

Ironworrior'd

[@lordofthecries7478]

Warriorcore

[@connormclernon26]

Iron within…

[@mk3ferret]

REEEE3eEEEE

[@PunishedVenomDrake]

Quite literally just an iron pellet that's swallowed lol

[@Sparkero-]

His fall can be summed up like this, if the emperor realised that even his lord of iron has a heart and thanks to that an emotional breaking point and treated him a bit better he would have been the most loyal of them all

[@ianduarte1992]

Imagine perty and dorne togeter? Horus wouldnt have reached the solar system

[@atlast000]

@@ianduarte1992 just like their sons Alexis pollox and the (shit I forgot his name)

[@americancaesar4715]

@@atlast000 Barbaros Dantioch

[@Blessed_V0id]

The emporer had the best foresight in the galaxy. I'm sorry but he knew, the bastard just don't care. Your telling me he accidentally became a God? With powers like that. Narcissistic arrogant, greedy bastard. Hope his throne gets unplugged for a charger XD

[@involuntaryanalysis]

@@ianduarte1992(in unison) *"FORTIFY!"* *"SIEGE!"*

[@SRaburrido]

My head canon is that Perturabo did not ascend to Daemon Princehood, he allowed his armour to become a Daemon Engine Prince and hides inside doing blueprints for Chaos Aqueducts or something.

[@thedyingmeme6]

Perty: Yeah do whatever the fuck you want I just want to build stuff His Deamon Engine Armor: *hehehehehhehehhehe*

[@discipleofdagon8195]

If he became a daemon prince of the forge of souls which is a neutral warp entity that'd be baller as well

[@endwarAH80blackfoot]

Gotta love Perturabo that he is just the most 'sane' person dealt with a horribly bad hand. While Angron is tragic, he is just dead now as daemon primarch. While Pert just wanted to be appreciated. Perhaps also be treated with a bit of kindness. It is always sad just that in blinded bitterness his foster sister, his only tether to his humanity, was killed by his own hand. It is ironic since I think I remember that Perturabo is supposed to be the name of one the Emp's closest friends.

[@im2randomghgh]

He also murdered random artists out of spite before even meeting the Emperor! And immediately killed 10% of his Legion when he joined them. He's a cool character but I wouldn't call him sane 😁

[@SRaburrido]

He just wanted to build public infrastructure, but was forced to build weapons of war and glimpse at the eye of terror. He is the combination of Guilliman and Dorne that went full petty. If the Emperor had not gotten rid of it's compassion and told him, just once, that he was sent to shitholes because he was the only one capable enough to deal with them, Petty Perty would have done what he did best, being bitter while grumpily doing the impossible.

[@combinecommando001]

@@im2randomghgh To be fair, imagine your every waking moments being able to see what is essentially the gates of Hell itself and you don't know what it is only that it's looking straight at you and nobody knows what it is, thank BIG E for that blunder. And thanks to learning shit so fast (faster than other Primarchs) that he cannot enjoy the simple pleasure of discovering new things and learning how they work, so he gets the mentality of "why bother?"

[@endwarAH80blackfoot]

@@im2randomghgh Very true, I definitely didnt forget that that. But look at the alternative for the traitors. One's a snake now, a zealot hiding from the big bad crow, a moth daemon, and a rage monster. Not even Magnus gets a pass no matter how tragic by nature of how he was led into becoming traitor by Horus as he couldnt stop thinking that he knew best instead of actually listening to the warnings.

[@chaptermastermarneuscalgar6926]

Perturabo was the one who gave himself the bad hand because he actually thought that quietly doing the suicidal tasks that nobody else wanted to do and not seeking praise would get result in him getting praise heaped upon him by the Emperor. This led to a self-fulfilling prophecy where Perturabo would quietly do the tasks that nobody else wanted to do with seemingly no thought for praise and then getting pissy for getting the praise he thought he deserved. This willingness to do the suicidal tasks also lead to Olympia's rebellion because the Iron Warriors losses were basically wiping out entire generations of children to refill the ranks.

[@teal_m_101]

I really want Perturabo to reappear on 40k.

[@thomasalegredelasoujeole9998]

*Purr-ty* ^^

[@mattiaslime8926]

@Astrobern nha his iron warrios now might be considered worst that the black legion in terms of cruelty

[@dalemoss4684]

The best theory of his "ascension" I have heard is that his armour/life support has grown and grown so much in the eye of terror over the milennia that he is slowly becoming it- like a fucking huge obloterator.

[@lordtritus2261]

@@mattiaslime8926 I'm pretty sure you're talking about the Daemonculaba, but the garrisons in control of enslaved civilians on resource worlds probably also count, which to my knowledge was conceived by Honsou to use up the gene seed he captured from Hydra Cordatus before they expired in the warp's atmosphere. Considering what happened afterwords as a result of the failed batches the other Iron Warriors Warsmiths might not want to try it.

[@LegerRon]

It would be awesome if he re-appeared, still as a traitor, but not a demon primarch... just the same old pissed-off guy, 10,000 years later.

[@olympusgolemoflight7198]

Almost makes you think what would have happened if Dorn had of asked Peturabo to help him to build the palace, saying that I need someone I can trust to help me build the palace.

[@jacobweatherford4696]

I feel if dorn asked him for help it would have made pertys day and i could see them building a truly impenetrable imperial palace and perty wouldnt have joined chaos.

[@ChaoticHarmony431]

In an ideal world, Perty would have accepted Dorn's offer...however, I do not think Perty would have seen it as a sign of friendship at that point. Pert probably would have seen it as an insult, and turned Dorn away, only to let the wound fester and his hate/bitterness grow. At the end of the day, Perty's greatest enemy was himself, and his outlook on things.

[@TheSickjits]

@@ChaoticHarmony431 I really feel like this is the story of Perty. He’s his own worst enemy. His attitude and outlook on things just led him to be maladjusted (aside from the eye of terror mad dogging u 24/7) and I kind of like that about him. I used to be that way. Always self sabotaging or not setting myself up for success. Changed a lot. Makes me hope Perty is redeemed by waging war against the 4 gods for what they did to his brothers. But we all know they won’t write that because it’ll be too good 😂

[@white_dragon8245]

If dorn said that to perty..... chaos would have gotten turbo raped and emps would probly still be alive.

[@jonathanathor117]

@@ChaoticHarmony431 Peter turbo. The greatest incel tsundere.

[@Gr1mm4]

You get a glimpse of what Perturabo might have ben able to achieve in Angel Exteriminatus, it's somewhere around the point when he's half dying and Fulgrim has a peek into his mind and saw what kind of city he dreamt of building. I doubt the traitor legions would have smashed the Emp's palace so bad without him, and the info from Alpharius.

[@synergy8879]

this was before perty managed to pick up ferrus’ hammer even though fulgrim fucked him up badly and fucking clubbed him

[@Gr1mm4]

@@synergy8879 Yeah, I couldn't remember that section fully, just the bit where Fulgrim is trying to sell him on staying in there while he robs his soul.

[@discipleofdagon8195]

@@synergy8879 after all this is the same guy that bitch slapped a full daemon angron

[@MajinOthinus]

Hey! Magnus appreciated Perty! Probably didn't help that Magnus got "axed" pretty early on in the Heresy and then was the only other primarch actually doing shit during the siege, so didn't have much time with Perty then, but there was at least one person - and a primarch no less - that truly appreciated him.

[@drago939393]

Can't be coincidence that they're the most "reasonable" of the Traitors.

[@morgant.dulaman8733]

Personally, I wonder what would have happened if Perturabo and Konrad got to hang out more, and maybe got a working relationship going on between their legions. Storywise, the primarchs have fairly similar backgrounds and grievances in terms of how they were looked down on for their tactics and personalities. If there were more Iron Warrior/Night Lord team ups in the current setting, we could get variety from the usual chaos shenanigans by having scenarios where the Boys in Midnight Clad swoop down to cause discord and panic in the enemy lines while the Metalheads come and fortify positions in a far more danger-close manner than they'd normally attempt on their own, choking off logistics, bombarding settlements with artillery and other siege engines and allowing fall back positions for either further Night Lord raids or even opening the way for hordes of renegade guardsmen to attack in hordes, picking off the planet's hive cities one by one. Also, imagine the dark humor we could get during the HH or even afterwards if first Konrad and Perturabo, then their captains, served as mutual snark machines for each other and their "allies."

[@afgncap]

Also hard for him to do much when 90% of his legion got wiped out before even turning traitor.

[@atlast000]

finally my favorite Primarch got some attention he deserves

[@alfieingrouille1528]

My favorite is mortarion but Peter turbo Is definately my 3rd the giga chad Mr Johnson is my second fav

[@TheRealTemper]

@@alfieingrouille1528 interesting, how is mortarion your favorite primarch?

[@guapitogomez9481]

@Saber he’s probably also a moth

[@Kholilx]

@@alfieingrouille1528 GIGA chad El john is my1st paranoid Perty is my2nd Mighty Morty(before deamon) is my3nd

[@cringebrudi]

Heritic

[@climax050]

Perty is one of the best characters in 40K, there’s only one tiny gripe I have with his character and that’s the “not caring about the losses” part. Would’ve been pretty tragic if he did in fact care a lot about those under his command but after so many sieges and seeing so many of his sons die he decides to turn traitor. Even still I like his story, much like the night lords they have an actually decent reason for turning to chaos, and even then it’s more of a means to an end rather than pledging themselves to chaos for eternity.

[@Arbaaltheundefeated]

Yeah, his callous lack of care for human life and even those of his own "children" (it took wiping out half of his own homeworld to get him to feel a tiny bit bad and then that basically broke him :p) is more or less the only reason why Dorne is my favorite Primarch and not Perty.

[@colefriel3171]

I believe he DID care deep down. Reading Hammer Of Olympia, it’s clear that Olympian society was a VERY low-trust one. One where emotions were a weakness to be exploited. Perturabo adapted and found that suppressing emotion in favor of cold reason and logic guaranteed survival and success as opposed to allowing yourself to feel. That’s why when Olympia burned and he killed his foster sister Calliphone out of bitter rage he finally snapped. All the emotion he suppressed his whole life burst forward. So disgusted with himself for killing his sister, destroying his home planet, and being responsible for all the deaths of his gene-sons (plus betraying his own ideals of emotional suppression) he felt he lost the Iron Within, and fell to despair. He felt certain the (God)Emperor wouldn’t forgive him and felt forced to turn traitor.

[@Space_Ghost_Hunter]

I like to imagine that he actually cares a lot about his sons and his home world which is why destroying it sort of breaks him, but that his ambivalent attitude towards losses is really just a forced suppression of emotion that he thinks he must possess in order to accomplish his goals. That's honestly the most Perty thing, "I love all my sons deeply, but that love is a weakness, and I need only what is necessary to fulfill my duty." Kind of thing. I mean the guy had no windows on his ship so his men wouldn't get distracted for like 2 seconds looking out at the stars or whatever. His personal daemon world in the eye of terror is supposed to be some giant factory half the size of the planet, and the rest is some smog infested desert wasteland. He only knows putting his own feelings second in the service of someone else's dreams. It's actually Perty sad.

[@Space_Ghost_Hunter]

@@colefriel3171 Exactly this. Easily one of the most layered Primarchs in terms of characterization. Since half of them are, "I'm cool, and I punch people in the face for the Emperor." or "I'm evil. Chaos." lmao

[@TechNinjaSigma]

"I don't care if the traitors win, I need Dorn to lose!"

[@michaelhowell2326]

I hadn't ever heard the theory that Perturabo isn't really a Demon Prince. That would be the best plot twist in 40K history. Especially if he saves Guilliman or other Loyalist forces.

[@bauer24power]

Interesting. Would that make Iron Warriors more “Renegade” than “Traitor”

[@kccustodes2618]

As long as the idea that Alpharius is still alive and doing whatever it takes for the Imperium, as he was instructed by Malcador, than the idea that Perty is just a renegade is doable. Almost any idea, no matter how screwy, if it holds some weight that Alpharius could have done it for the better of the Imperium in the long run, than it is possible.

[@nil981]

He would never do that tho.

[@blankeon6613]

Perturabo would never go back to the Imperium, he is driven entirely by spitefulness against the Imperium. Perturabo hated how the Imperium overlooked his intelligence and talent. He proved himself the superior strategist and tactician to Dorn at the Iron Cage, where Perturabo completely outplayed him and would have killed him if Dorn was not saved by Guilliman. The Imperium would have to give him some kind of formal apology, which would never happen.

[@joshuakim5240]

@@blankeon6613 I can see Perturabo making his own superpower faction by virtue of being one of the only characters actually competent enough for that to even be a possibility. Spiteful against literally everyone, imperia, chaos, and xeno, but competent enough to stand firm and carve out his own, petulantly pissed off path.

[@mitchmitting102]

Honestly, gotta love the meta perception of Perturabo. Much like many IN universe, people tend to overlook and downplay his achievements and capabilities, when in all reality, he is actually quite the skilled and interesting character. Sure, he is a bit of a sook, but that doesn't change what he has actually accomplish.

[@mitchmitting102]

@JAEDEN ABNER D'SA My dude..... What the actual fuck?

[@yeeyee5057]

Tbh I always liked Peturabo a lot more than the other chaos primarchs, even fantasised about a potential scenario where he leaves the eye of terror and conquers the second Terra and the surrounding stars as his own empire to launch attacks against the empire on the other side of the imperium where shit is getting fucked. Then he will be smug by announcing that he will build a better Terra than Dorn can lmao

[@nil981]

His efforts on mendrengard don't really give me hope.

[@justinianthegreat1444]

Guilliman: pathetic, now let's play the logistics game.

[@geeljire9247]

What's second Terra

[@-TheMachineGod-]

I would love to see him leave the eye of terror as soon as his soul leak is fixed and ally himself with Commander Farsight to create a joint human-tau empire to rival the Imperium Sanctus

[@jagnestormskull3178]

@@geeljire9247 There was a Star Trek-esque scenario encountered by Horus's crusade fleet where a planet... thought they were Earth. They even had an Emperor of Mankind upon a Golden Throne. It was basically foreshadowing, Horus is going to kill the real Emperor like he killed this fake Emperor.

[@dank_smirk2ndchannel200]

Imagine if Perty become a Daemon Primarch, but not one dedicated to any of the four gods or undivided. Instead he's a Daemon Primarch and the Lord of the Forge of Souls itself. He'd be the master of the Daemon Engines with no god to rule him.

[@warsmithandrath449]

I've always thought that Malal would be a good fit for him. Also, Medrengard's aesthetics (a world with a pure white sky and a black sun) fit malice's coloration perfectly. Just my thoughts....

[@dank_smirk2ndchannel200]

@@warsmithandrath449 Perty: "To hell with the chaos gods." Malal: "Oh human I have an offer for you!"

[@justintaylor3044]

Plot twist, in the chaos gods eyes he was always the lord of the forge of souls. Humanity having fought perty’s creations before perty was even born!

[@jhulvincentcalabia4784]

Well the Arkifane is coming perty would probably seek some answers to him and also forming an alliance.

[@synergy8879]

@@jhulvincentcalabia4784 “hey, wanna shove a bloodthirster into a maulerfiend?” “sure why tf not.”

[@Eliphas_]

Video idea: How would each Primarch react and rule the imperium, if they were the one to return first instead of Guilliman

[@chaptermastermarneuscalgar6926]

Leman Russ would have been the most interesting choice to return first because it would force him to become the leader the Imperium needs instead of hiding behind the persona of a barbarian king and the fear of having to do this might have been the reason he want into the Eye if Terra. Or at least that's my theory because I'm pretty sure he was the last loyalist Primarch standing when he left.

[@rednoggy]

Good idea. Probably have to be a series though.

[@mogurumoguru]

@@rednoggy Lion would be a tyrant like emperor, doing the best he can, without explaining himself to anyone

[@Darkhunter441995]

If Vulcan ruled, The Imperium would actually be a nice place to live. And a lot more on fire, but still.

[@waynebrian9505]

Best idea for a vedio I've ever seen hopefully Major kill sees your idea !!!

[@22readbetweent22]

I'd love for the Majorkill theory to be true, I can almost see the scenario write itself. One last call to arms, an Iron Crusade, devastion wreaked on both the Imperial and the chaotic brotherhoods that betrayed him, entire planets being consumed by the technovirus and becoming giant daemonic engines...We need this.

[@mateubalcells9294]

Its great to see one of the primarchs that gets less atenttion in such great detail and in such an amazing way!

[@rexlumontad5644]

4:40 Wholesome Perturabo is best Perturabo.

[@Eta_Carinae__]

What's really cool about the Iron Cage, that I hope the authors play into when writing it, is essentially how even Perturabo and Dorn's mindsets are flipped. Dorn is in more than one sense in Perturabo's shoes, both situationally and emotionally, and vice-versa. In fact, you could probably argue that Perturabo became a better primarch as the heresy unfolded.

[@MachineDog90]

The more I read about him, the more respect and understanding I have for him as a character and hope he returns as just this massive flex on chaos for there failings

[@The_Archivist407]

Someone give this man a hug

[@alfieingrouille1528]

My boi Peter turbo just needs his dad to comeback with the milk and tell him he is proud of his son

[@The_Archivist407]

Yeah

[@rexlumontad5644]

Perturabo trolled Rogal Dorn into going inside the Iron Cage which took down a lot of Imperial Fists and use their stolen gene-seeds as offering to the Chaos Gods for his ascension into Chaos Undivided Daemon Prince.

[@Space_Ghost_Hunter]

"Let's see Dorn do this!" *Turns into disgusting warp creature* "Maybe.... this was a bit impulsive. Dorn it!"

[@harryhoudini714]

Majorkill: "Perturabo is the greatest Traitor Primarch" Rogal Dorn: "No!"

[@Firepup740]

Calm down dorn he said TRAITOR primarch.

[@j.t8529]

​@@Firepup740Rogal: No

[@m1kchicken165]

So glad to hear someone voice a similar head cannon to Perturabo as daemon primarch. He's supposed to be a technological genius and hates chaos, it would be pretty sick if his life support dreadnought was consuming daemons as the power source.

[@challengeryonigames2856]

Perty finally getting the respect he deserves, such an interesting and cool character. He doesn't just rape, kill, or cough on people

[@blizzardgaming7070]

The chaos Primarchs, the one getting fucked, the one fucking, the fucking angry one, the fucking smelly one and finally, the fucking sane one.

[@matewostadesse281]

I'm glad we got a Perturabo video, cause a very under-appreciated Primarch but when are we getting some Belasarius Cawl lore content.

[@thebaron9405]

I believe he has indeed turned into a daemon prince, but then turned himself into a daemon engine to cut himself from the hold of chaos

[@colefriel3171]

Interesting theory. I prefer to think he would never become a daemon Primarch though. The Eye of Terror *haunting* him his whole life, tormenting his every moment all for him to willingly join up? The Lord of Spite and Iron allied with and submitting to something he has detested since his first sentient moment? He would never

[@jadedseer]

Finally something covering my favourite Legion and Primarch. Iron Within, Iron Without.

[@gnf_swampboi3305]

Yes sirrr

[@vontheunknown7982]

I still think Perturabo only became a daemon Prince to save his life because he was dying, what do you guys think?

[@nocthemedic2951]

I'm still hoping that he's not actually a demon but an oblitorator

[@ellis7622]

@@nocthemedic2951 is an obliterater just a really badass daemon that’s not technically a daemon prince?

[@22readbetweent22]

I don't know that he would have willingly become one, it could be another Angron type deal where someone else did it to save him, but I just can't see the man turning to what he loathed to save himself.

[@fumarc4501]

I think him going full metal to stay “alive” in place of having a soul would be very interesting. But does beg the question… why wouldn’t he challenge fulgrim to get the pieces of his soul back? Maybe a “I didn’t need one any ways” sort of situation?

[@Zero-tk1hb]

That is probaly what happenned, because perty is a pratical guy. If he sees that the chaos and the warp is a tool that he can use without loosing his mind he probaly would.

[@gideonmele1556]

Pert is a perfect example of why gratitude is important (and on the flip side, the importance of also speaking up instead of allowing bitterness to fester)

[@RebelInTheF.D.G]

He and Angron were my favorite pre-Heresy Primarchs by a wide margin. So many what-if scenarios played through my head when I read about them.

[@bauer24power]

I’ve seen a lot more love for Perturabo in recent years, as an Iron Warriors player for over 20 years I love seeing it.

[@necrospoon]

Slight correction, the suicide mission of the Mournaval was before Horus was going to replace him. And was a gambit worth deploying. Also Abbadon's great idea.

[@bobthepervyuncle]

>Abbadon >Great idea Pick one

[@memesofwarhemmer7076]

9:47 wile I understand your option it has been confirmed in a short story that a ultra marine see his face on the warp and see an abomination of metal and flesh. fused together with a skull of the iron warriors before noticing him and forcing his astrol progection into real space

[@ElonTusks]

Valrak freaking out rn

[@mystermothman3092]

THANK YOU GOD it feels good to see Perty recognized for the efficiency artillery mecha demon he is

[@shadowsun123]

Yo majorkill how about a video about the legendary Ragnar Blackmane dude is an absolute beast is the youngest wolf lord in history and is even destined to lead them after Logan Grimnars death he's even brought about a truce with the dark angels. Love all your videos and can't wait to see more of what you do.

[@FirstnameLastname-wh3hu]

Ragnar was my first introduction to the warhammer universe. Would be so cool to see a video on him

[@shadowsun123]

Same my buddy introduced me to the 40k universe and told me about all the chapters figured the space wolves sounded cool and decided to read the space wolf omnibus first warhammer book I ever read still remains one of my favorites

[@Alex-oz3pb]

Finally an objectively correct Majorkill video

[@soulboost964]

The buddy cop book with Perturabo and Fulgrim is called Angel Exterminatus, and I highly recommend it. One of my favorites

[@mr.watson3237]

The ending lore theory (Perty not being a demonic prince) is now canon to me

[@stripeybag6977]

Iron Within

[@jeffcardwell1800]

Pertruabo is my favorite. Yes such an interesting and sad backstory compared to a lot of his brothers I can definitely agree I’d like to see something else than just a demon prince

[@Eldeecue]

Yeah. Him becoming a demon prince of chaos undivided just doesn't make sense. Lorgar, yes--he made the whole heresy possible, etc...the other four fell to one the four chaos gods...and then Perty's left being like "Oh yeah and he became a prince of chaos undivided, too. Offscreen." Way cooler if he's just a neurotic traitor with no demon stuffs to him.

[@MeOneSleepy]

Would be interesting that since he seems to be suffering a slow death similar to the Dark Eldar. That him and Vect have been working behind the scenes to achieve each others goals. The Dark Eldar can create a fix for his soul leaking and in return Perturabo could eventually create a permanent fix for both their problem.

[@arturkushukov1815]

I'm really hopeful that with the introduction of the Dark Mech faction that seems to be on the horizon we'll learn more about Perty.

[@XmortoxX1990]

From the unaligned Chaos legions, Perturabo is easily my favorite Primarch, and love the Iron Warriors

[@Bio_dub465]

I wonder what would primarch’s credit score be

[@steffanyschwartz7801]

Guilliman would have the best.

[@alfieingrouille1528]

@@steffanyschwartz7801 nah the khan he has by far the best social credit for obvious reasons

[@Private-Jimenez]

@@alfieingrouille1528 Guiliman takes that simply by recognizing where every faction in the Imperium stands and how to navigate the politics of the decaying government.

[@alfieingrouille1528]

@@Private-Jimenez my brother in Christ have you never heard of the concept of jokes?

[@Private-Jimenez]

@@alfieingrouille1528 Yes, hence the reply over the Ultramarine memes.

[@MrSmiley81092]

I wouldn’t be surprised if someone at Game’s workshop down the line tried to rewrite all Perty boy as someone who betrays chaos next

[@viciousraccoon4961]

Missed a huge chunk of lore regarding him and Dorn. The reason Dorn lay seige to him in the method he chose was partially to 'cleanse his legion' as he knew they wouldn't submit willingly to being broken into chapters based on the codex astartes.

[@thecommentguy9380]

Which was the most dumbass move for a supposed "level headed" primarch

[@viciousraccoon4961]

@@thecommentguy9380 If the primarchs acted like their supposed character's even half the time, I think only a couple would have fell to chaos. Nothing gets in the way of the writers.

[@trajanfidelis1532]

This is a video on Perterabo not Dorn

[@im2randomghgh]

That, and the IF were fighting so well during the Iron Cage that destroying them would have required the "Ultimate sacrifice" for the traitors. Dorn's intention may have been mutual annihilation, because then there's be no one left with the expertise required to threaten the palace again

[@vaguedreams]

@@thecommentguy9380 While I agree it was that or another civil war and complete end of the Imperium. Personally, Dorne got fudged post Seige of Terra. I mean, realistically what did Guilliman and crew do? they waited it out, started the imperium 2.0, then realized fuck, Dorne is holding on, hurry we can still do something.

[@samthomson6087]

Perterabo is a great anti-hero. I can also sympathize with how he mentally snapped, and in a moment of weakness and confusion, picked the wrong side. I also hope he is not a demon prince, that would undermine his character like you said. Personally, I’d like for him to go through a redemption arc and end up being the very thing that wrecks chaos - like have the emperor work with Peterabo to fight fire with fire, sort of like the Legion of the Damned. Perty + Legion of the Damned team up against chaos would be legendary. I love my damaged characters that turn into anti heroes. They are fascinating and really run sci fi, like boba fett in Empire Strikes back and The Hound in Game of Thrones.

[@The_Sun_Bro2342]

Perturabo is one of the reasons why the iron warriors are my favorite chaos legion lore wise, he and the iron warriors are absolute badasses, and many of them are actually very intelligent

[@nathangreene1149]

Perturabo only truly loved his sister and still tries to bring her back to him.

[@stardestroyer19]

Hell fucking yeah! Iron within, Iron Without.

[@white_dragon8245]

Yay!! Giant hentai demon vagina rape monster daemunculaba. ....oh wait.... yeh ... iron warriors did that....

[@morganfreeway4560]

Iron within, iron without!

[@rheynilcalderon4246]

Perturabo is probably the most human of the primarchs and more than the emperor

[@shamainebest4031]

The most "human" is Vulcan for Perturabo he's probably second to him

[@white_dragon8245]

Except the part where the iron warriors created the daemunculaba.... ? Am I the only one that remembers the giant hentai rape/ abomination vagina monster?

[@baseupp12]

Day 15 of asking for a video on Perpetuals in Warhammer 40k and their current locations or status.

[@sethkeown5965]

Honestly. put that barbell on his shoulder and started taking steps, like, "Pirty, chill."

[@guardsmenedwin6213]

The death of Urda. I will not stop asking Majorkill.

[@tablekun8690]

It would be infinitly more intresting if perty isn't a demon prince and still rejects chaos but is adamently against the imperium

[@tengkualiff]

Perty best boi

[@Nyghtking]

He's my favorite traitor primarch, his actions make sense when you know the whole story and unless GW fucked it up, he would also be the only non-demon traitor primarch as well. Don't get me wrong, he was still a bit of a man child, but when you see all the shit he went through it's the kind of shit that would make you quit your job too. Edit: Thinking about it, in theory what Pert could do is copy necron tech and do a consciousness transfer to a fully robotic body, and he might be able to do it if his ability to understand tech by looking at it extends to xeno tech as well.

[@RSBurgener]

I friggin love Perturabo. He's a great character. They've managed to really capture the essence of the psycho genius archetype and he just crushes it in every piece of lore he appears in. Some fans are like "ew, he's bad, I don't like him". And Emperor's great golden balls, I think they are missing the fucking point. Perturabo is amazing because he's so incredibly bad. He also retains a core of twisted honor. That's the guy *I* wanna play in this story! You self righteous Imperials can all go kick rocks, the 41st millennium is a hell hole. Rebel and Rampage!

[@asantiago2039]

I'm pretty sure it was Lorgor who located and dragged Fulgrim from the warp not Perturabo

[@MrFallenone]

Yep straight to Ulanor for a final meetup where he tried and failed to take over the command from Horus and got exiled.

[@komarkko1]

I like to imagine Perturabo is just happily building infrastructure and technologies and stuff in the eye of terror, since he's not taking order from anyone anymore.

[@wolf2965]

He plays Battlemace 42 Million with Vulkan. The compete for "best crafted army".

[@dennismoeser4917]

Almost up to 400k, it’s been an honor to watch your rise my man.

[@blackjacklover99]

NOTICE! Since you made Seth‘s video about warp entities that aren’t aligned with chaos. I’d like to propose a video idea of my own. About what remains of and references to ‘our’ era and earlier things from earth in the time of 40K. That’s something I’ve been interested in for a long time. PS: Majorkill please tell me if you see this comment. So I know the idea is in your head.

[@matintanelamac4534]

I'm with you bro

[@theyoungfool.1895]

We’re with you brother.

[@davekavanagh7599]

Couldn't agree more, the more I learn about him the more great he is

[@user-rr6jj5mr6f]

Perty needs his own novel trilogy set during the dark imperium

[@David-wv3si]

As soon as iron warriors get their own model range and my boy gets a smacking model I’m doing iron warriors. I really like them in the siege of Terra

[@hercules2342]

Can we get a video on all the first captains during the Horus Heresy?

[@ashippoi5711]

Need this

[@gamesux420]

Love that he decided to say fuck you to both Chaos and the Emperor, he was real as fuck for that

[@temp3608]

now imagine if they had perturabo help design it and dorn learn from the guy who knows literally everything about building stuff, and just have dorn decorate so dorn could be an even better master of fortification, perturabo would be happy and maybe not even go traitor, and its still an amazing golden masterpiece

[@questorincompetus8841]

Ok theory time. What if perturabo is in a similar situation to the dark elder. His soul is leaking away, but to where? Probably slaanesh, since his soul was being used by fulgrim as a sacrifice to slaanesh. Slaanesh is already doing something similar to the dark elder. If that’s the case, he may be using suffering to keep himself alive, just like the dark elder. Also, though it’s a stretch, maybe he made some sort of machine that can generate warp energy that has the same signature as pain. This could explain the bulk on his newer armor.

[@curtisbrown547]

Thank you so much for standing up for pert. Pert is awesome and doesn't get enough appreciation

[@musoklimbu4824]

finally on a video on my favourite primarch,thank you major

[@villenmillenion7986]

Imagine if Perturabo went full Necrontyr mode and became an inmortal robotic killing machine

[@vincentprime740]

necron is flesh wound, perty is soul wound. I dont think that would work lol

[@johnsilvers8904]

I know you’ve covered them a bit in the past but would you do a dedicated video on the enslavers? I just think they are cool

[@pixelgun4789]

Thank you for making video about my most favourite primarch.

[@Mrspaceman1999]

My man here be pumpin dope videos like a mad man

[@yesno9475]

Perty and Mortarion basically hard carried the heresy

[@Nomadith]

Really wish they'd kept him as the only non-demonic traitor primarch - would've been more inkeeping with his style and would've added a lot more potential story fluff for good books around him and conflicts with the other traitors

[@macshadow1150]

Well, to be fair Alpharius and Konrad didnt fallen to Chaos

[@Nomadith]

@@macshadow1150 2/3 are dead as hell, and no one even knows if omegon is hiding out in the Ghoul Stars or growing out a new hydra head in the warp

[@thewerdna]

I mean Alpharius or Omegon is still alive probably... but then again, he is also probably secretly loyalist

[@michaeldavenport1392]

Loved it, great episode! 👍 Thank you broski 🤘

[@darkchild130]

He really is! I’m glad people are recognising his awesomeness

[@Thregs]

Who would win The Imperium of Man VS Dark age of technology Mankind would be a cool video ngl

[@rocketlaunch99]

Imperium would be obliterated man

[@InquisitorXarius]

Finally

[@Fatties09]

great vid on Perty mate!

[@MrKn1ght]

Perturabo and his legion are my favorite hands down

[@bodricthered]

Him, Alpharius and Gorrillaman, power of logistics, three most powerful primarchs by a long way. Magnus firing mindbullets or the lion being good in a duel isn't on the same level....

[@gfhjkfghj4208]

IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT!

[@randycreason3399]

One of your best videos for sure

[@XLA-zg1nn]

Great vid mate

[@jaegerbomb269]

Not wrong. If he would have stuck around during the Siege of Terra, traitors would have won.

[@licensed_beheader]

Technically no . The traitors fled when Horus was obliterated and with his death almost all daemons vanished. It would have taken roughly two weeks to break the final defenses according to horus and lion, leman and guilliman were barely a day away . If the traitors pushed even after horus death the other three legions would have mowed them down from behind. The chaos gods who were the ones bankrolling the whole heresy weren't invested in the destruction of the imperium per se but the death of the emperor and they just pissed off after Horus failed . So it would likely have been Perty and Morty only sandwiched by the loyalists

[@jaegerbomb269]

@@licensed_beheader good point

[@takebacktheholyland9306]

@@licensed_beheader Well, accounting his efforts before horus died, I'm pretty sure they would've won the siege even before the emperor and horus fought

[@licensed_beheader]

@@takebacktheholyland9306 Not exactly. Despite how it's portrayed, perty wasn't stream rolling the loyalists prior to his rage quitting, quite the opposite infact. A majority of his initial assaults were repelled with brutal efficiency by Rogal. Remember the lions gate failure at the start. Its the reason he withdrew and let Horus, Magnus and Zardu layak and his wretched sorcerer buddies together with the ritual genocide of the terran civilians weaken the psychic wards. Even with his meat grinder war attitude and the numerical superiority of traitor astartes to loyalists defenders he knew even breaking down one gate without the disposable daemons would have been too costly for his side. The emperor also confronted Horus at the end when it looked like the loyalists were doomed because he knew with Horus' defeat the heresy was more or less won for the loyalist even though traitor elements would still exist in great numbers(which happened). Perty wasn't the backbone of the siege it was Horus, it was by the will of the gods that the traitors even got to terra(Horus would have been obliterated by a imperial knight super laser if not for the gods literally shielding him all the assassins sent were stopped because Erebus was being warned by the gods, the warp storms preventing loyalists from moving freely was being surfed by the traitors because of daemons e.t.c). Horus being the avatar of the gods only his death would halt the heresy. It's probably why all was lost from the start. He sacrificed his innate strength at the alter of his hubris at the behest of deranged parasitic gods.

[@licensed_beheader]

@@takebacktheholyland9306 Sorry for all the paragraphs.

[@ianyoder2537]

I believe the forces of chaos know that if they were to succeed in wiping out all other factions in they galaxy they'd cease to exist and that's why the chaos leadership is usually so bad at their job. And why all the chaos characters who are good at their job are unsupported secondary characters. Chaos's goal isn't victory, it's self preservation. If order win's chaos dies, if chaos wins chaos dies. The only way for chaos to continue is to fly like Icarus.

[@georgesulea]

This is a great synopsis and very insightful:)

[@skiadrum9029]

I like how the subtitles just put "peter rubber","put the rubber","petarabo"