The Origins Of The Dawn Blade (Ft. Oculus Imperia) - 40K Theories

[@mercenarygundam1487]

The Dawn Blade was once wielded by a human who has a preference for the color red and speed. His name? Char Aznable, the Red Comet.

[@SgtPotShot]

I'd totally have a Zaku II S-type for a proxy of Commander Farsight's model.

[@ChillAssTurtle]

Heresy detected.

[@mercenarygundam1487]

@@ChillAssTurtle Everything is heresy. Even the Emperor.

[@mobiusZero2]

Nice Gundam reference

[@enricopaolocoronado2511]

Farsight is called Da Red Komet by the Orks, actually.

[@FangofFate]

Another piece of evidence against the Dawn Blade being Anaris is that, in the Craftworlds codex, the Shard of Anaris is a relic option. It says that "When Kaine was shattered in battle with Slaanesh, Anaris too was splintered, the fragments of both blade and wielder coming to rest within the Craftworlds."

[@bladestormviking]

if it is not explicitly stated that all the bits are present/accounted for, there's always an option for a piece of Anaris to be made into another weapon.

[@codyadams120]

Then technically the Dawn Blade could still be a shard of Anaris.

[@cegesh1459]

@@codyadams120 It could. But I onjy heard and read of chaotic origins for it.

[@Big_E_Soul_Fragment]

Commander Farsight is best Tau. Farsight anime when?

[@lootboxplayer7555]

then there would be a kitten and shadow sun hen...BLAM

[@lukeburky8344]

Eliphas did a TTS style anime-esque video with Commander Farsight in it. Highly recommend mostly because of Alfabusa speaking Japanese as Farsight

[@enricopaolocoronado2511]

Stringstorm made anime theme songs for Farsight: (English Version) kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn-4iX1uhqynfc0 (Tau (Japanese) Version) kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXrHlKyDmdenabs

[@Gigasius]

O'Shova-sama?

[@mileshawkins3856]

Check eliphas's channel

[@Variann]

While it's always nice to have you around Remleiz, it is wonderful to see Oculus Imperia more. He's developed well, just as you have Remleiz. Keep at it both of you.

[@Mystyx-Sama]

8:54 Yes? 8:59 YEs? 9:03 YES!? 9:06 YE- Awwww... so close. Dang. Not bad, though lol

[@nightwithnomoon3386]

Man of culture, i see...

[@antoinep.2565]

we need the source!!! for a friend tho...ofc....

[@MarqFJA87]

@@antoinep.2565 You mean you want the SAUCE for your "dinner". ;)

[@akumaking1]

@@antoinep.2565 just look up her name?

[@antoinep.2565]

@@akumaking1 no result :(

[@AGS363]

I have to use the blade of Brother-Captain Ockham here: It probably is "just" a Chaos-Weapon. A longer live and more health in exchange for bloodshed? That is right up Khorne's alley!

[@PeteofHartainia]

That would make sense. The dawnblade could actually be a Khorne relic. The temple summoned Khorne demons with blood afterall.

[@Tacoguy1000]

Why would Khorne put it in a place that made his daemons recoil, though?

[@bubbaturps394]

@@Tacoguy1000 who said he was the one who put it there?

[@zanir2387]

Doubtful, farsight should had been corrupted long Time ago...

[@zanir2387]

@@PeteofHartainia Doubtful, farsight should had been corrupted long Time ago, i think there Is a relation between the Dawn blade and the palé spear

[@krausercruz2780]

Given its slender and ornate design it's definitely Eldar Origin. There are two possibilities considering the location: 1- A pre-Slaneesh Eldar temple, it is known their debauchery caused the creation of Slaneesh so maybe this was erected to please some old Eldar weird fixations and in turn became a Shrine for Slaneesh. 2- It's an old pre-Slaneesh Eldar temple but it was abandoned after it's awakening, later taken by chaos worshipers (Eldar or otherwise) and turned into a Chaos Shrine for Khorne (blood for the blood god and all that)

[@DarkBattleMage0407]

If it is Eldar in origin perhaps it actually a pre-fall Khaine Shrine that was commandeered by Khorne in the millennia after the Eldar's fall. Perhaps in addition to the pleasure cults there were bloodletting cults that believed they were worshipping Khaine, but were strengthening Khorne. Maybe that is why Khorne wanted Khaine, a fellow War God who he could battle for eternity instead of merely spectating the mortal battles.

[@enricopaolocoronado2511]

Ah yes, the one Tau genuinely good at *_GLORIOUS MELEE COMBAT!_* Edit: I stand corrected. Farsight is good when in his suit but when it comes to Tau melee fighters that don't use suits, there's Aun'Shi.

[@40KTheories]

Aun'shi is arguably better ;)

[@enricopaolocoronado2511]

@@40KTheories Oh yeah. Farsight's good when in his suit. Aun'Shi, on the other hand, is pretty much the best when it comes to non-augmented fighters (in the Tau at least).

[@Yamifira]

@@enricopaolocoronado2511 don't forget o'kais stabbed the crap out of several chaos marines before blowing up a lord of change with a simple grenade

[@EMWandMBW]

T'au can be good at melee through mastery and skill, but in a galaxy with Orks and S0ace Marines the majority can't measure up, which is fine. I think that maybe in 9th, the weapons need to be made more powerful, or the overwatch rule made stronger just for them.

[@Marconius6]

You have to imagine the blade being in this specific temple, near the portal, isn't just a massive coincidence. I think that portal was built specifically to summon demons to empower the blade, or maybe the blade was used to slay demon to consume their power/life force. The hexagrammatic seals are just there as extra protection around the portal, so demons can't just run away.

[@RX7FDfreak]

Was just watching a Tau lore video when this dropped. How fitting...

[@TheArklyte]

Obligatory mention of theory that this is in fact the Mortal Blade aka Widowmaker aka Sword of Khaine.

[@TheAtomicSpoon]

Always gotta have more Oculus.

[@rigelcummins1460]

Rather than being Necron or Eldari technology, there is possibility that the Dawn Blade is both. I believe that the base material of the blade was a chronophagic weapon salvaged by an Eldari weapon-smith, possibly Vaul himself, after the end of the War in Heaven. The smith would reforge the blade into a weapon worthy of a great champion, just not the one he would have expected. Not all Eldari weapons are made of wraithbone, I recall reading about a sword made for an Eldari hero out of the salvaged chitin/bone of an unknown Tyranid Hive Fleet.

[@jasonparrish8670]

I love how the Aeldari are discussed like a bunch of Fantasy-level savages, with Isha, "teaching them how to cultivate the land for farming and whilst' Kernoss would teach them how to hunt game." All this while the Aeldari were the most powerful galaxy-spanning civilization :) WH40K also has numerous examples of the Aeldari building temples around historic Warp access points, so instead of having his troops throw the objects into the Warp, they were probably put there to help in defense if the gate ever opened again. Oops.

[@gregorygames7579]

I love Oculus's voice, it feels like im listening to a old Oxford class, its great.

[@mobiusZero2]

Time will tell if the Eldar would come for the sword or will the old ones secrets will reveal itself? But if Demons fear it then thats good enough for me

[@mide2476]

Indeed.

[@DocWolph]

So Farsight is not only Optimus Prime, but also Doomslayer. Noice!

[@awesomehpt8938]

You shall taste the edge of the Dawnblade!

[@MarqFJA87]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJKvpJppgpydhdU

[@Turkoktonos1]

My favourite two 40k Rhapsodists cooperating again. It's like Homer and Hesiod make an epos together. Thanks a lot. Go on, do it again.

[@erosharcos8398]

I didn't notice this because I've not had the pleasure of playing Eldar on the tabletop, but the Dawn Blade seems to share a very similar aesthetic to the Aeldari blades.

[@jamescorrall6535]

Well, it's nice to see that there is at least doubt to the idea that the Dawn Blade is a demonic weapon, having Farsight corrupted into a Chaos champion would have been maybe a little too GrimDark (TM)

[@_FoxHoleCharlie_]

Just read both Farsight books last month, very enjoyable

[@spiritvdc5109]

That moment when a Tau commander accidentally performs a Chaos blood ritual that causes a daemonic incursion, and then accidentally performs an exorcism upon said warp rift more skillfully than the Grey Knights have ever cared to be...

[@TheRampantLion]

Didn't know the webway rejuvenated as well. Interesting bit of info.

[@complex314i]

Always a pleasure to see your work historator. Ave Imperator

[@sharpetutor227]

What if it’s a chaos blade like the one fulgrim had? Maybe since the tau have little to no place in the warp it can be used with all the benefits but none of the risky faults?

[@huntereyeofdarkwood5417]

Could be, but tau has been chaos corupted several times

[@thoughtful3393]

"None of the risky faults?"....brother, pass me my flamer, the heavy flamer. I hear heresy and it sounds like hope.

[@amorphoussolid8512]

I was also wondering if it is a chaos blade. Blood sacrifice area close by, takes the life of those it kills and gives it to the wielder thus the more you kill the longer you live.

[@Triumph263]

@@huntereyeofdarkwood5417 Yeah, while it's probably a bit safer for Tau to use daemonic artifacts it's not exactly 'safe'. It's like being stabbed once rather than being stabbed ten times.

[@TheArklyte]

Tau aren't even resistant to Warp powers, they're just less likely to be noticed. Only a trained powerfull psyker OR pariah can resist warp. Tau has neither of those. They're just less "glowing in the dark" then humans and eldar, who're psionic by default. So even touching such artifact would already render any such "camo" pointless.

[@zakleclaire1858]

Put Farsight in an XV86, let him take his dawn blade, and *LET ME LIVE OUT MY MELEE GUNDAM VS. IMPERIAL KNIGHT FANTASIES*!!!!

[@Duppyman695]

Now were talking, bring on the Titans !

[@JeanLucCaptain]

actually the Tau battlesuits look much more like the Mechs from Heavy Gear.

[@Nostroman_Praetor]

@@JeanLucCaptain Heavy Gear's mecha seem a bit too stocky but I know what you mean. I think Gundam is easier to compare Farsight to specifically because melee and high preformance is all the rage from that franchise when long range inevidely fails, plus his character's line of thinking when it came to the Ethereals reminds me a lot of a mobile suit pilot's questioning of the cause that they fight for being worthwhile.

[@XenoDogg]

The collab I never asked for, but thoroughly enjoyed

[@minuteman3317]

A Tau celebrated for GLORIOUS MELEE COMBAT is like a Space Marine using tactics eg. Deathwatch.

[@tablekun8690]

my theory is that while slanesh got the last kaine blade tzeach being tzeach "stole" the sword and put it there for farsight to find.

[@Frostfly]

[@Keksde]

Easy, as Remliez is a lord Inquisitor he prolly had an Exterminatus trained on Oculus' home planet to ensure just that

[@OmniGSage]

@@Keksde Occulus lives on Terra tho.

[@Keksde]

@@OmniGSage guess we have an Inquisitor that went rogue..

[@zakleclaire1858]

WAIT WAIT WAIT!!! Hold on just one second! If the Webway has restorative properties, does that mean the Khan could emerge from the Webway in his prime and at peak physical performance?

[@Duppyman695]

Not only that but his bike all chrome and refuelled, The Great Khan will return !

[@zakleclaire1858]

@@Duppyman695 "Well I was chasing those weird, kinky knife ears but then I realized my bike was only getting faster *and not using any fuel* so it just turned into a 10k year race, which I eventually won." - The Khan upon his return, M42.115.

[@olorin3815]

Khan is a primarch he would be perfectly fine anyway though he did dissapear with like a company of his marines so maybe some of them can come back as well

[@DemiurgeDarkfire]

Beyond excited for this collab! i love that ive been seeing oculus on a few of my favorite channels these past few days

[@scottmurphy4946]

They say the commander had a brother named Nearsight

[@Bobthebob239]

It was sad how he went

[@EMWandMBW]

This was a great insight into alternatives for the history of the Dawn Blade. I had thought it was a Demonic blade like that of the Lawrence, but given the low exposure of the T'au to the powers of the Warp, the temptations and control associated with the blade are muted with Farsight, like the power of the Ring on Hobbits from LoTR.

[@Hakazu]

Another good video about my favorite boi. Good work guys.

[@Nostroman_Praetor]

It is definetly Eldar in origin. I like that he drew it from a giant statue by pure coincidence to fight off a bloodthirster not even knowing if it would work or not out of desperation. Some day I want to see that moment animated since he's gotten good at swinging that sword around for over 3 centuries

[@zanir2387]

i'm of the theory it is not only of eldar origin: it could be the fifth cronesword, and it means that there will be conflict between the ynnari and the enclaves...

[@khylerbane4523]

The idea of his sword being a Chaos blade is something that always felt the most plausible. Partly because whoever originally inhabited Arthas Moloch and built everything(i.e. the portal to the warp, the chaos marked buildings, the statues, and (probably) the sword) were, in all likelihood, worshippers of the Chaos Gods. And because partly this is 40k, this are never simple, and not partly because the sword is too good to be true, so I refused to believe that there is *no* way that there’s not a catch to this. Plus Farsight has (coincidentally and unintentionally) shown or done some Khorny stuff. -His team are the “The 8” and have 8 members (the sacred number of Khorne is 8). -Farsight uses melee and is a warrior via being fire caste(Khorne lives for that stuff and people like him). -The sword empowers the user(like how the Blood God empowers his followers). -The Farsight Enclaves forces are all painted red(much like Khorne and his forces). -And finally Farsights vision, of course, had him as daemon prince of Khorne. While the future is rarely set in stone, prophetic visions only show “what” will happen, but never “how” things get to that point(See the Eldar farseers on both why that’s problematic and trying to stop the future results without context always go wrong). The fact that is even a possibility is alarming. I am very optimistic and hopeful of Farsight as a character but skeptical and cautious about that sword. I have said it before and I will say it again, if Farsight starts getting looking like a bodybuilder and/or taking a little *too* much joy in warfare(especially melee combat) we should be worried. Khorne has show favor to and empowered those who weren’t even on his side like the Guardsmen commander who was so vicious in her fight against Slaanesh(I believe) that Khorne gave her his favor.

[@derpmcderp7179]

40k theories vid nice... Occulus as well!!!! *grabs milk an cookies and setles down*

[@NetMoverSitan]

The red ones go faster! | 1:53 - Yeah, Orks get something to shoot and stomp on. | 3:00 - A fast route to the grave...or more likely, their stomachs. | 3:40 - Blood? Uh oh, I can guess what kind of daemons appeared. | 5:00 - So it's a powerful anti-chaos weapon? Strange as the Tau are usually mostly useless at melee. | 7:05 - It would make sense, considering what they were fighting against before the deal that damned them. | 10:05 - So the Aeldari will want that back soon to fully bring forth their God of the Dead? | 17:07 - Including how to counter anything from the other side?

[@michaeldoddyrudianto8302]

The dawn blade and commander farsight video? WEEB HERESY DECTECTED

[@the36lessons11]

Arthas Moloch most likely was a Necrontyr world that fell during the war with the Old Ones. Necrontyr were noted as being very 'human-like' in many sources, with Arthas Moloch's statuary being noted as such (all faceless, though). Vykola Herat, the ex-Ordo Xenos Inquisitor that traveled with High Commander Farsight during the Farsight Expedition would have noted if Arthas Moloch's architecture and ruins as being Aeldari or not. She makes no mention of it being Eldar and is just as perplexed as the t'au as to the origins of the world and its culture that created it. The Dawn Blade most likely (in my opinion) is a vampiric Necrontyr blade, since before going through the fires of biotransference into the Necron, the Necrontyr were obsessed with extending their lives, and the jealousy they developed in regards to the Old Ones' abilities and immortality being a key factor in the reasoning behind their war with them in the first place. The dias and portal on Arthas Moloch most likely was an Old One Soul Gate, used to move their forces around during their war with the Necrontyr. It now is tied to the Warp millions of years later, activated by spilt blood and resting under Khorne's sphere-of-influence (Tzeentch somewhat as well).

[@mattgrandich3977]

Yay, video came out on my birthday!

[@Cynocehali]

Lore I always wondered about!! Thank you!!

[@williamthehammer1]

I can't wait for Games Workshop to expand the lore on Commander Farsight and the Farsight Enclaves!

[@ToaArcan]

GW: Did you mean... _MORE PRIMARIS SPACE MARINES?_

[@williamthehammer1]

@@ToaArcan ... Goddamn it

[@canis2020]

Obligatory comment for the KZbin Algorithm gods

[@ThoriberoCaroli]

Data for his data throne!

[@TheDubDisciple]

The day you finally get a new intro will be a sad day indeed

[@IainCiplinski]

I reckon the temple was there as a barrier against the warp, maybe a broken spur of the webway. Ynnaris placed there so the spirit of Eldanesh would stand guardian over it. I believe the Eldar mythology is very jumbled, mixing the wars in heaven, old ones and mundane histories, so it could well have been forged by Vaul, what or who Vaul was is a big question.

[@lazylazymule]

Aaaaaahhh!!! Oculus Imperia!!! Awesome :D

[@jameshunter6121]

I like the idea that the Old Ones made it the most

[@AmentiVZ]

I always wonder about the guard and hilt of the Dawnblade, since they look T'au in design. Was the Dawnblade modified to make it easier for Farsight's battlesuit to grip?

[@40KTheories]

Yup. It's detailed within Empire of Lies.

[@fraserwatson1723]

Video: *casually mentions that some necron dynasties have time travel capabilities* Me: "Ye this tau video is goo- HOLD ON A MOMENT WHAT!?!?!"

[@40KTheories]

Yup. This is most notably shown in "Devourer" as the Necrons casually transport a crap-ton of Tyranids 65,000,000 years into the past.

[@bluestormpony]

@@40KTheories that feels like a really poorly thought out idea... unless they were super super sure the powers at the time could rapidly detect, and eliminate them

[@icealkion]

@@bluestormpony think of it this way one second it’s your problem the next second it WILL be your problem

[@csnation]

Maybe it is just me but I can't help and think it reference warcraft in a clever way. Arthas wielded Frostmourne, a sword that suck souls, feeds him and makes him immortal (can be killed but won't die of natural causes as long the blade continues to feed) Planet Arthas moloch, dawn blade, a blade that literally sucks "life force" on killing something. But of course Frostmourne corrupts its wielder, but we have yet to see it with the Dawn Blade.

[@owenbevt3]

So Kain has 100 Devine blades? It would seem fitting if he ended up having 100 aviators and that may imply there (haveing) been 100 craftwolds.

[@zanir2387]

Khaine had 99 divine sword and 1 mortal sword...

[@boomxchikn7556]

Wrecking Orks and Daemons? In melee? Wow this fish face might be alright for a filthy xenos

[@CoolDude-of7cd]

Smells like Tzeentch trolling Khorne

[@oldeskul]

I came across some piece of lore, though I'm not sure where, that said the Dawnblade was actually a weapon from the DAoT.

[@40KTheories]

If you could find a source and citation for that, I'd appreciate it.

[@oldeskul]

@@40KTheories I'll have to search it out, though I don't recall where I read it and I'm not ruling out that it might have been on a fan theory site.

[@Gormathius]

Wherever this blade is from, one thing's for certain: Khaine was an asshole.

[@NeumaghAnon]

Or the faceless statue was an ancient wraith construct and the sword that looks elder is an elder sword

[@codyadams120]

Found in an Eldar temple, it is most likely a shard of Anaris.

[@zanir2387]

Wonder if the Dawn blade and the palé spear have some conection

[@SomeDudeOtaku]

the ancient Ethereals before their time with the tau. I'm just shooting randomly but I am confused why the dawn blade has Tau designs on it. (where they added after obtaining it?)

[@40KTheories]

The more T'au-like aesthetic detailing, such as the handle, pommel etc were indeed added later, simply to make it more compatible with Farsight's battlesuit. (This is shown in the novel "Farsight: Empire of Lies" if you're interested?)

[@00784865]

He is the Doomslayer now?

[@Yamifira]

that would be O'Kais punter of ravenguard, shanker of a dozen chaos marines and end of a lord of change

[@hulkbustermark5830]

Wow just learned that kain was a huge dick to everyone. I guess him being shattered by slanesh was karma in a way. To bad all the other gods of the eldari are dead/ eaten or captured.

[@owenbevt3]

It was Kane attacking Slanesh as it tried to devour Isha that allowed her to live. Seeing how much of a dick he was to her makes that kind of ironic- unless he knew what Nurgle had in store.

[@MrAirpumpkin]

I'd bet the blood portal is entirely coincidental and accidental, like how FMA used silhouette of a solar eclipse as an improvised nation sized magic circle

[@jadedkratos5528]

Dawn Blade strikes shoulder guard of a Space Marine in Power Armour, Space Marine goes "what hit me" and turns around to see the little cloven footed midget with a sword. The Space Marine shakes his head and tells the cloven foot midget to piss off. The cloven foot midget didn't understand what the Space Marine said, he decides to jump and slash at the Space Marine's helmet only to get his silly little helmet smashed through his face and his head cleaved off his shoulders by a single punch to the face by the Space Marine. The Space Marine kneels to pick up the funny looking sword and decides to keep it so he could shave his scalp bald and to keep his face clean of facial hair because facial hair is uncomfortable in a helmet.

[@lancejobs]

As for these eldar swords... they are missing 5 metacarpal bones 5 more relics out there. Maybe a nice hammer or mace.....

[@MSte21]

What I learned from this - the Aeldari gods were mostly a bunch of dicks, and poor Isha just can't catch a break. Also, tht the Tau are awesome, but I knew that already.

[@vishishify]

I feel like you are conflating necron tech and Necrontyr tech. Given the tiny life spans of Necrontyr and their war like nature, a blade that drains its victims remaining life force to empower the wielder sounds like it would fit right in.

[@demonickiller6315]

Daemonically possesed blade but has little effect on farsight because tau have virtually no presence in the warp.

[@40KTheories]

You may wish to read Empire of Lies. It opens detailing how the Chaos Gods are interested in the T'au, and Farsight's visions into the Realm of Chaos (seeing Slaaneshi, Khornate, Nurglite and Tzeentchian T'au) is really interesting.

[@demonickiller6315]

@@40KTheories i might see to do that thanks for the reccomendation!

[@zanir2387]

doubtful: it doesn't have the tendrills, skulls and rotten design that other demonic swords, i bet for a eldar sword...maybe even the fifth cronesword...

[@JeanLucCaptain]

AH A NEW XENOTECH BLADE TO ADD TO MY COLLECTION! edit: how is this got no likes?

[@kappa6109]

The fifth Cronesword.

[@Teyl1]

I'm leaning towards none of the existing major factions having a hand in it's creation. It's placement doesn't make sense to just been left in place and forgotten about by any of them, and there would be not reason to leave such a powerful artifact behind since those who made it must have been aware of it's capabilities.

[@Duppyman695]

The Old Ones could of created it for one of there lesser races to fight The Necron, and then abandoned the blade when fleeing the galaxy..... ?

[@bluestormpony]

Isnt it an eldar blade of some description?

[@rhemajumbo-nze154]

Eldar assasins on their way to get them

[@owlsayssouth]

The eldari gods are some of the last of the old ones. This is known.

[@40KTheories]

They're not according to the Liber Chaotica. Within Liber Chaotica: Slaanesh, it states that without the Old Ones to bind them, the Gods of the Aeldari, which were originally little more than sentient weapons, would evolve into true living gods; becoming the first true gods of the warp, and that the Old Ones were so powerful that they could even summon them from the warp itself into real space.

[@owlsayssouth]

@@40KTheories sounds more like a truthful lie. In this case "the old ones" refers to the civilization that was wiped out by the war in heaven, without which the remaining old ones, now taking on the mantles of the gods full time as a method to interact with the lesser races. This would line up with the information in xenology.

[@40KTheories]

​@@owlsayssouth Wasn't the information from Xenology based on a second hand account from a "self-confessed" heretic, suggesting that the veracity of such information is being deliberately called into question? Either way there would be wiggle room for either, or even neither possibility, especially with other hypotheses regarding the Old Ones, such as the "Brain Boy/Snotling/Plague" theory.

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

Can Farsight cut Furry thoats with that Sword?

[@TheLoobis]

9:00 Go lower! LOWER!

[@alarsonious2071]

What the hell is going on? Blasphemy! Heresy!

[@Ranmus]

Is this about the anime reboot?! Please tell me it is!!!!

[@ROIBR]

Am i drunk or has the Narrator changed?!

[@jackrogers5712]

Oculus is my dad.

[@catzdog9357]

¿proof?

[@OculusImperia]

You got it sport.

[@christopherg2347]

Did the Necrontyr have Psykers? While we know that Necrons got a worse warp presence then even Tau, what about the Necrontyr? They were a fully biological race with extensive scientific knowledge. So why would they not have had Psykers as well? If they had those powers, they would not have prooved usefull during hte war in heaven: The Old Ones are in a different league altogether. And even the Aeldari at the time had way more skill. So loosing those (useless) Psyker abilities during biotransference would not have been a big loss. The Necrons can propably neither craft nor use the blade. But what about the Necrontyr, wich were *obsessed* with Lifespan extensions?

[@-Big_Big]

what if it just a archeo human sword from the peak of human civilization.

[@kiltmaster7041]

10:00 - Necron weapons being black/green is a very recent addition to the lore. At the time that the Dawn Blade was added to the lore, most necron weapons were the same silver hue as the rest of their bodies. This can be seen by looking at the older models in the necron range, dating back to late 3rd edition: www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99800110002_NecronLordResOrbNEW01.jpg and miniset.net/files/set/gw-99800110010-0.jpg Note the curvature of the blades, which bear a superficial similarity to the shape of the Dawn Blade itself. 10:20 - The Crone Swords were all in the eye of terror, which is on the opposite side of the galaxy to the Tau Empire. Furthermore, the fifth crone sword is already accounted for - and is in the possession of the renegade farseer, Auric Stormcloud / Rogue Trader Janus Darke. (Who actually took it from Belial 4 in the book, Farseer. This seriously pissed off Slaanesh.) The Dawn Blade is also too large to be a crone sword.

[@40KTheories]

A change from 5th edition onwards (to both Necrons and the T'au) is not something I'd personally call "very recent", but either way this would be an example of a retcon. The Crone Swords were _not_ all within the Eye of Terror. The Asur-Var for example was located upon Biel Tan, which lays upon the outskirts of Segmentum Solar. The Spear of Twilight was originally upon Iyanden, which is within close proximity to the T'au Empire. While the Craftworlds did originate from a region of space close to the Eye of Terror, it's always possible that an unnamed Craftworld, similar to Iyanden, made it towards the Eastern Fringes before for one reason or another the sword was taken to another world, if it were indeed a Cronesword. The Deathsword of Khaine is flat out stated to be something *other* than the final Cronesword, since it was forged by the Aeldari themselves, not Vaul (this is also shown within the novel Farseer, as shown with the following passage) _A few of the eldar had some presentiment of the disaster. Some turned their faces from the dark and prepared to flee their worlds in great arks, but most stayed and so were doomed. Others, the priests who had built this temple, who also saw gathering doom, remained and tried to preach against the corruption. When this failed, they retired to its depths to forge a weapon against what was to come. Using engines of awesome power, they forged a sword that was not a sword, but a captured echo of the death force of the universe bound into the shape of a blade. Then they waited for their doom to come upon them_ In addition, as stated in the video, the Cronesword upon Belial IV was supposedly taken from the world by Shalaxi Hellbane (the daemon that arrived on Belial IV within Farseer was Shaha Gaathon)

[@joseantoniosantiago1258]

What if Vulkan led the Imperium after the War of the Beast?

[@dualityomk9854]

snoots would be booped and the leading cause of death would be by hugging

[@flemishlion69]

It's a demon blade it will change farsight in a TAU daemon.

[@thegradyfiles]

Evidence?

[@zanir2387]

doubtful: it doesn't have the skuls, tendrills and rotten design that other demonic swords have, and since o'shova had it for more than 300 years, he should had already been corrupted...

[@Serbinderbintine]

Engagement

[@BashtorTV]

4th like ! :D

[@BashtorTV]

2nd comment by 3 seconds

[@minishaw280]

Damn

[@BLOODKINGbro]

I always envision the dawn blade to be of necron origin. Slowly corrupting Farsight and spreading with nanoscarabs to infect his army. XV-88 Broadside skimmers with heavy gauss cannons for the win.

[@mathieulapierre-armande306]

what are the aeldari gods anyway ? we know for a fact that they haven't been created by any gods since they've been engineered by the old ones ... but their gods are very real, still, living and/or dead in their actions and influence. i sense heresy for sure, but can't figure out what kind heresy it is ...and i hate that.

[@mathieulapierre-armande306]

warp beings from a time before the warp being known as batshit crazy bad ? heresy intensifies ...

[@40KTheories]

According to Liber Chaotica there were originally living weapons created by the Old Ones that evolved into true Gods following the extinction of the Old Ones, whereas Xenology suggests that the Old Ones somehow evolved into gods. Other sources suggest they were created through emotion and belief, which is tangentially supported by Liber Chaotica, since they overtime "evolved" to become sentient and such. So... take your pick, I guess lol

[@mathieulapierre-armande306]

so this might truly be one of the 99 blades of Vol, then ...even if it was not the No 100. after all, myths and legends often come from ancient truth now forgotten ? thanks for your swift answer anyway !!

[@pauliusthemad3498]

Comment tohelp video spread.

[@akumaking1]

The Dawn Blade is weaponized weeb

[@thegradyfiles]

That is cool

[@MrMysticphantom]

Dawn blade was made by the Emperor

[@MOSES350]

Found the Relictor