The Mystery Of The Sanguinor - 40K Theories

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@SpacePirateK
@SpacePirateK 4 жыл бұрын
It's two squats golden armor. IT'S ALWAYS TWO SQUATS IN ( Insert outfit here ). Seriously though, another Grade A lore video!
@frederikmortensen6321
@frederikmortensen6321 4 жыл бұрын
Are all the characters in 40k actually just one or multiple squats in different armors?
@mikewaterfield3599
@mikewaterfield3599 4 жыл бұрын
welcome to Vaudeville in the grim dark.
@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384
@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384 4 жыл бұрын
It’s actually two Alpharius’s
@SpacePirateK
@SpacePirateK 4 жыл бұрын
@@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384 who happens to be TWO SQUATS!
@trevorberryhill2398
@trevorberryhill2398 4 жыл бұрын
3 squats*
@changelingiris9409
@changelingiris9409 4 жыл бұрын
Me: Someone who likes to cosplay as Sanguinius and has the ability to manifest from thin air? I have a suspicion... *rips off deathmask* Szarekh: And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling inquisitors!
@Morec0
@Morec0 4 жыл бұрын
Lol wondered this too
@theimperialinquisition5009
@theimperialinquisition5009 4 жыл бұрын
Excuse us but what is your Problem with the Imperial Inquisition?
@blinkingred
@blinkingred 4 жыл бұрын
I can't unthink this now.
@loganjblack
@loganjblack 4 жыл бұрын
@@theimperialinquisition5009 he probably doesn't like how you kill so many humans that there won't be enough biomass left to make the necrons biological again.
@perihelion1225
@perihelion1225 3 ай бұрын
I would pay to hear Szarekh say that
@micaigneous_01
@micaigneous_01 4 жыл бұрын
"Appears when all hope is lost." He must be closer with the Lamenters chapter than the Blood Angels or the other Successors. Their usually there not getting praise for their sacrifices.
@melvixen1943
@melvixen1943 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe another one for the legion of the damned?
@robertnelson9599
@robertnelson9599 4 жыл бұрын
The Lamenters need something to help them out.
@lordbonney9779
@lordbonney9779 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertnelson9599, their chapter master can utilise the Black Rage as a buff while being completely in control of himself, something not even Saniguinius could manage!
@bloodangel19
@bloodangel19 4 жыл бұрын
@@lordbonney9779 ain't he dead as hell?
@lordbonney9779
@lordbonney9779 4 жыл бұрын
@@bloodangel19, yes, but Caesar was a good general and he is also dead. What is ur point?
@professorsponge1554
@professorsponge1554 4 жыл бұрын
I think most of Sanguinius is held prisoner on the Vengeful Spirit where he died. The Sanguinor is some psychic connection from that bound, imprisoned soul and his sons.
@UmbraNupe
@UmbraNupe 4 жыл бұрын
He’s not. The new Dante novel explains.
@samhobbs9116
@samhobbs9116 4 жыл бұрын
@@UmbraNupe Oh shit no way? spoil it for me bad boy.
@UmbraNupe
@UmbraNupe 4 жыл бұрын
@@samhobbs9116 it will be out soon. Most of his soul isn’t on the vengeful spirit. It’s something else. Not spoiling.
@jacked4121
@jacked4121 4 жыл бұрын
@@UmbraNupe you shit you... How long do we have to wait?
@VierAlder
@VierAlder 4 жыл бұрын
@@UmbraNupe what is the name of the new novel?
@Big_E_Soul_Fragment
@Big_E_Soul_Fragment 4 жыл бұрын
It's the fabulous hawk-boy himself ready to protect the Imperium once more
@PitFriend1
@PitFriend1 4 жыл бұрын
I totally get the Legion of the Damned being Imperial Daemons and The Sanguinor and Living Saints being Greater Imperial Daemons brought about by the power of and faith in The Emperor. I was wondering why super faithful groups like the Black Templars and Eccleisarchy don’t have them but then it hit me that The Emperor really didn’t want to be worshipped as a god, so they don’t get His favors as much.
@cp1cupcake
@cp1cupcake 4 жыл бұрын
I always thought he was a greater daemon like Celestine or the Silent King cosplaying. He does like his Sangunius mask.
@TheCreepyLantern
@TheCreepyLantern 4 жыл бұрын
holy shit that'd be the best twist ever!! the Silent King is like your Father dressing as Santa, showing up to make the little ones happy and believe!
@MinkxiTes
@MinkxiTes 4 жыл бұрын
Since the Sanguinor spoke once or was it twice to Dante, it wouldn't be the Silent King... because... well.. speaking is not that Silent
@koatam
@koatam 4 жыл бұрын
@@MinkxiTes Silent Bob speaks at least once a movie, but he gets to keep his title.
@cp1cupcake
@cp1cupcake 4 жыл бұрын
@@MinkxiTes The Silent King has also spoke to him when they met.
@bloodangel19
@bloodangel19 4 жыл бұрын
@@MinkxiTes the necron spoke with the blood angel once, but since the sanguinor talked with Dante i would guess he would remember his voice
@5680009
@5680009 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Aratron has basically become Emps own little Daemon Prince.
@internetzenmaster8952
@internetzenmaster8952 4 жыл бұрын
Well I mean, isn't Celestine for all intents and purposes a daemon prince (princess? Effing daemon terms are weird man!) for Big E. She basically spends most of the time recovering from her latest death in the Warp before going back out to fight for the Emperor alongside the Sisters of Battle/Imperial Guard.
@5680009
@5680009 4 жыл бұрын
@@internetzenmaster8952 Possibly, or would Cele be more akin to a Greater Daemon? Daemonic terms are indeed very confusing.
@Callsign_Bear
@Callsign_Bear Жыл бұрын
​@@5680009I look at it like this: A Daemon Prince is an individual blessed with a God's/gods power, while a demon *is* that power.
@eirikbrattengbratlien9942
@eirikbrattengbratlien9942 4 жыл бұрын
Yet another extremely well done narrated and well researched video. Excellent work, my animal skull faced friend.
@CommanderBohn
@CommanderBohn 4 жыл бұрын
My theory is that he's part warp construct, part Azkaellon and part Sanguinius via symbiotic possession of the latter. Also head-canon: The Sanguinor chills out with the Legion of The Damned when they do find time between interventions. Also anyone noticed the Space Hulk: Vengeance of The Blood Angels info in the video?
@chocolateskull6239
@chocolateskull6239 3 жыл бұрын
Sanguinor is the Legion of the Damned Primarch, but he misses his blood angel brothers
@MrGrim
@MrGrim 4 жыл бұрын
A demon by any other name, is still a demon
@TheArcSet
@TheArcSet 4 жыл бұрын
What about a deamon, or a deaman? ;)
@may122013
@may122013 4 жыл бұрын
There are no DEMONS in 40k
@abimanyuputra5185
@abimanyuputra5185 4 жыл бұрын
It's Warp Being. Daemon is a slur.
@may122013
@may122013 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe you're right... But that's still heresy
@cliffnpaige2009
@cliffnpaige2009 4 жыл бұрын
@@abimanyuputra5185 I thought it was mortally challenged; I can’t keep up with this.
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 4 жыл бұрын
seems like there's enough evidence for the existence of the emperor's own warp entities at this point, plus he's been powering the astronomican for nearly as long as it took for the chaos gods to form
@AlyssMa7rin
@AlyssMa7rin 4 жыл бұрын
"Legion of the Damned screams 'FOR THE EMPEROR', they just do it silently.
@gargoyles9999
@gargoyles9999 4 жыл бұрын
The emperor doesn’t power the Astonomican the thousand souls a day he’s fed do, he just directs the energy
@LouisKing995
@LouisKing995 4 жыл бұрын
@@gargoyles9999 No dude, he powers it, the souls sustain him, through the throne, and allow him to keep the web way rupture closed. He was powering the Astronomican long before the souls were being sacrificed.
@mohammedimran3670
@mohammedimran3670 4 жыл бұрын
The humans in the 40K universe have a golden armour fetish
@Zero01k
@Zero01k 4 жыл бұрын
Gold is the best color
@trashman6354
@trashman6354 4 жыл бұрын
Me too
@samueldoran7712
@samueldoran7712 4 жыл бұрын
Gold is the color of WINNERS!!
@victorsoto8223
@victorsoto8223 4 жыл бұрын
@@samueldoran7712 Orkz logic of colours??
@TeamOneDay
@TeamOneDay 4 жыл бұрын
I hope we get more Sanguinor fluff in the newest edition.
@sanguinumlacrimisofangeli3076
@sanguinumlacrimisofangeli3076 4 жыл бұрын
As an aspiring blood angels player thank you for the great video
@Jorem_K
@Jorem_K 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, The Dread Pirate Roberts or the Man in the Iron Mask of the Blood Angels.
@jacked4121
@jacked4121 4 жыл бұрын
First time I’ve actually gotten the notification. Love the work you do, keep up the rememberancing and I’ll keep listening🖤🖤
@sanninjiraiya
@sanninjiraiya 4 жыл бұрын
I've always figured it was a shard of Sanguineous
@connorcmsmith4302
@connorcmsmith4302 4 жыл бұрын
Same perhaps the shard inhabiting the body of one of the blood angels kind of like how Janus the first grand master of the grey knights was created by combining a shard of Magnus and a thousand sons sorcerer together. Because it has a physical body that’s why it wasn’t effected by the opening of the rift like the legion of the damned where during the battle for Baal
@ShadaOfAllThings
@ShadaOfAllThings 4 жыл бұрын
So, a fun parallel that might run with the Angel theme of the Blood Angels and implicate some possibilities. The Angel Uriel, described as the last of the watchers that God allowed to live after he slaughtered them (aka, the nephalim), and sometimes implicated in that slaughter by esoterica, is described as being an angel who's forever seeking penitence by doing the work of god and remaining loyal when the others of his kind didn't. He's also depicted often with a sword and cup, and is called upon to bless said objects in ritual magic practices. Depending on whatever character you are suspecting to be the Sanguinor, if this is an influence for this plotline, it might open up all sorts of possibility beyond it being an experienced normal Astartes with potent relics and a lot of intel and potentially psyker potential. Or, even spicier, it could be just a normal yet experienced Astartes and and such but not be a psyker and instead makes use of ritual magic that draws on Sanguinious and The Emperor to appear when needed and to give warnings.
@ericbrown9825
@ericbrown9825 4 жыл бұрын
Here's the real question, why the hell does his armor have nipples?
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
He was a big fan of Batman Forever's aesthetic.
@Tacoguy1000
@Tacoguy1000 4 жыл бұрын
No. Why did you have to dig up such cursed memories? The ice puns, they hurt.
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you need to... _chill out_
@kennethbedwell5188
@kennethbedwell5188 4 жыл бұрын
@@40KTheories oh dear god, I was going to say the same thing.
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
_Cool_
@jasonpippirilly356
@jasonpippirilly356 4 жыл бұрын
It’s your secret power to make a video basically in the same time of a release that gives you more hints about the subject.
@anothga
@anothga 4 жыл бұрын
For a moment, I thought you already made this video before, but then I realized that the video I was thinking about was actually about Imperious. My bad.
@davebowman9000
@davebowman9000 4 жыл бұрын
Personal Theory: Sanguinuis and the Sanguinary Guard that went up with him had psychic powers and being killed onboard the Vengeful Spirit, which was overflowing with Warp Energy, enhanced those powers to the point where they created the Sanguinor much like when the Gods of Chaos create a Daemon from a portion of their power
@jesseberg3271
@jesseberg3271 4 жыл бұрын
If the Sanguinor's mask was made while Sanguinius was still alive, it's not a death mask, it's a life mask. Both were real things people made (mostly) before the development of photography.
@akumaking1
@akumaking1 4 жыл бұрын
The Emperor of Mankind wants it to be know he misses his fabulous hawk-boy very much.
@kenny187ful
@kenny187ful 4 жыл бұрын
6:16 Khârn: "Pfft"
@MrRomanticGameGuy
@MrRomanticGameGuy 4 жыл бұрын
The Warp can also create good Creatures not only Demons. It could be the Warp Spirit of Sanguinius or created by the Emotions/Thoughts of the Blood Angels.
@Misadventures_85
@Misadventures_85 2 жыл бұрын
interesting. what's an example of a good creature created by the Warp?
@MrRomanticGameGuy
@MrRomanticGameGuy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Misadventures_85 I think the Sanguinor from Blood Angels and the Special Powers from Battle Sisters ^^ The Evil Creatures in the Warp are the Bad Manifestations of Lifeforms so it must be possible to also create Good Manifestations in the Warp. ^^
@Misadventures_85
@Misadventures_85 2 жыл бұрын
ah okay. thanks
@colinharvey5637
@colinharvey5637 4 жыл бұрын
My personal takeaway from this is that Sanguinius' soul being stuck on the vengeful spirit in a state of perpetual dying is likely an important part of of the black rages existence.
@kainalukamai9576
@kainalukamai9576 4 жыл бұрын
Imperial Demons? Now this is the kind of Heresy I wanna hear
@akantor0811
@akantor0811 4 жыл бұрын
I think imperious is Malcador the sigilite
@StylesV13
@StylesV13 4 жыл бұрын
Sanguinius is the Vengeful Spirit. Even Horus when twisted by the four main Chaos gods knew that Sanguinius would not fall to Chaos. So this means Horus knew that out of all his Brothers, Sanguinius was the best of them.
@Aceshot-uu7yx
@Aceshot-uu7yx 3 жыл бұрын
There are 3 primarchs that could not fall sanguinius, dorn, and vulkan. 2 for morality and the other because of his undying loyalty.
@briancoolbreeze
@briancoolbreeze 3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea that the Sanguinor is the incarnation of the noble side of Sanguinius while Mephiston is the incarnation of the dark side.
@mide2476
@mide2476 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds reasonable.
@MyTomServo
@MyTomServo 4 жыл бұрын
Clearly it's the Silent King because he has that Sanguinius mask! (Yes I know that's bullshit lol)
@russwilliams8274
@russwilliams8274 4 жыл бұрын
If Aratron is the Sanguinor, does that mean he's now in the same position as Kaldor Draigo?
@abdoul5176
@abdoul5176 Жыл бұрын
Wow. I don't see why not.
@xkroogaazzx
@xkroogaazzx 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering , 40k take place in one galaxy right ? Is the Empire aware of other galaxies ? If yes is it possible to travel to them through the warp ? And if yes perhaps humankind colonised other galaxies ? Are there chaos gods in those galaxies , or the xenos colonised them ?
@Griffolion0
@Griffolion0 4 жыл бұрын
It's interesting that the common thread between the living saints, the sanguinor, and the legion of the damned, all appear "when all hope seems lost". It's still my headcanon that they are all daemons of the emperor.
@dominicvucic8654
@dominicvucic8654 3 жыл бұрын
If we got an imperial daemons codex all these entities mentioned would be a cool models. Also a 30k sanguinor would be awesome
@jasoncown
@jasoncown 4 жыл бұрын
First for more Blood Angels goofery! Love it
@kharadron3561
@kharadron3561 4 жыл бұрын
I kinda think he's azkallon (I know I can't spell it ) with a fraction of sanguinius keeping him alive.
@insertedgynamehere
@insertedgynamehere 3 жыл бұрын
I think he's just legion of the damned sanguinis
@Nevets1073
@Nevets1073 4 жыл бұрын
What if the Sanguinor armor is like a Phoenix Lord's armor? It's found and worn by a worthy soul and their mind is overridden by Azkhellon or Sanguinius or whatever in the same way that the spirit stones in Asurmen's suit override whichever Aeldari puts it on? If we're seeing an upsurge in psychic potential throughout humanity, there's nothing to say that this isn't something that could develop and Blood Angels are psychically attuned, much more than other chapters.
@judgestrix5106
@judgestrix5106 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video, thank you
@---TylerDurden---
@---TylerDurden--- 4 жыл бұрын
So 40k Theories just decided to Scooby-Doo unveil the Sanguinor.
@Duppyman695
@Duppyman695 4 жыл бұрын
Blood Angels "take off his Mask" "Its old man...... Malcador" Malcador "and I would of got away with it, if it wasn't for you pesky kids"
@demilung
@demilung 3 жыл бұрын
I think he's Aratron supercharged and probably changed a bit by the powers of belief from the entire population of the Imperium worshipping Sanguinius almost as much as the Emperor.
@AngelusVesica
@AngelusVesica 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like it is the Angel, mostly because of the whole Fulgrims clone basically having the uncorrupted soul of Fulgrim. It kinda shows that the false gods can't actually claim the soul of a Primarch if it doesn't want it. As for the shards on the Spirit i see them as more photographs of a soul than a full soul.
@Matt-md5yt
@Matt-md5yt 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you talked about him again.
@alexanderson3847
@alexanderson3847 4 жыл бұрын
Well I mean also during the battle of Baal the Sanguinor showed up with the legion of the damned to aide in their defense, so there is a connection there.
@cristristam9054
@cristristam9054 4 жыл бұрын
The sanguinor is Alatron (the herald) ,Sanguinius witnessed his transformation when Alatron fell in the warp while fighting the demon Madail. It's actually pretty clear for the reader but nebulous just for the characters inside the warhammer universe.
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I point this out in the video itself :P
@cristristam9054
@cristristam9054 4 жыл бұрын
@@40KTheories Yes, my bad ,I had not watched the whole video when I posted and I assumed you are making the case for Azkaellon. I don;t want to be nit-picky but you do make a mistake later on in the video when you say the last 2 contenders where Alatron and Hakael. In fact it was Alatron and Haratial. Hakael is a dreadnought of the Avenging Sons Chapter.
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
Nah you're not being nit-picky, it's fine. Mistakes and mispronunciations happen, my bad.
@cristristam9054
@cristristam9054 4 жыл бұрын
@@40KTheories You make great videos though . I like them alot.
@therealcutman
@therealcutman 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative brother
@eichler721
@eichler721 4 жыл бұрын
The Sanguinor is Azkallon infused with a shard of Sanguinius soul just like Ahriman and Magnus. His soul is in 3 fragments, Sanguinius in the warp, the Sanguinor and his fragment on the Vengeful Spirit. It makes sense and is how he speaks to his sons and knows what coming as his soul knows what happens on the Vengeful Spirit. Just my opinion but the peices fit.
@Themannis93
@Themannis93 4 жыл бұрын
I'm actually awake for this one nice
@greenwitchinc.1682
@greenwitchinc.1682 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! But the thing that you mentioned about how Astartes are not functionally immortal was something that I had been wondering for a long time . But recently a audiobook that KZbinr Aboarderprince narrated had a character Express his sympathies to a modern-day space marine. Where he stated that while the original legions were immune to aging past a certain point, the 41st millennia version of them have corrupted genetics that does not make them immune like their predecessors. Sorry to be vague. I will try to find out which book it was and give you a direct quote..
@Discotekh_Dynasty
@Discotekh_Dynasty 4 жыл бұрын
I reckon it’s bits of sanguinius the emperor has squished together like a weed dealer trying to get one last nug out of the end of the bag
@richardbarnes5432
@richardbarnes5432 4 жыл бұрын
Great channel dude. Minor suggestion - having watched a lot of your videos recently, that intro needs a cut.
@TheArcSet
@TheArcSet 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this interesting video.
@Istangr2784
@Istangr2784 4 жыл бұрын
I think sanguinious is such a worshipped and celebrated figure by the imperium second only to the emperor that he's developed into warp entity through collective devotion.
@Nykona-Sharrowkyn
@Nykona-Sharrowkyn 4 жыл бұрын
Could it be Sanguinius sharing the body of Azkaellon? thereby extending the life of Azkaellon
@mide2476
@mide2476 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm going with.
@gustaveardila6286
@gustaveardila6286 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't the sanguinor appear to wake Dante up during his trials to become a blood angel? Imagine an imperial deamon whispering in your ear "wakey wakey"
@griffinthomas1056
@griffinthomas1056 4 жыл бұрын
Heyo 40k Theories, another good job on creating a great lore video. Question though, can you please tell us the name of the song that you use at the start of your videos?
@MarqFJA87
@MarqFJA87 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there a recent WH40K book that revealed the Sanguinor and a dark counterpart embodying the Black Rage are conceptual entities that predate humanity?
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
First I've heard about this.
@MarqFJA87
@MarqFJA87 4 жыл бұрын
Digged a little, found what I believe to be where I first discovered this. It appears to come from the book "Dante: Darkness in the Blood". See the two links below for summaries of the relevant information. www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/efe5kx/sanguinius_and_his_twin_curses_spoilers_bewarned/ www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/i1eplq/sanguinor_theories/fzwweol/
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, explains why I haven't heard of this, since the book hasn't been released at mass retail yet xD
@MarqFJA87
@MarqFJA87 4 жыл бұрын
@@40KTheories If it's any consolation, your video still serves as a good summary of what have been the most commonly circulating theories on the identity of the Sanguinor over the many years since the figure had been introduced.
@victorsoto8223
@victorsoto8223 4 жыл бұрын
After the publication of Blood of Baal in the Psychic Awakening, it is mentioned that Dante had a conversation with the Sanguinius himself, saying that the Sanguinor is part of a duality of the primarch's soul. On one side was the Sanguinor, an entity that represented the nobility and sacrifice of the angelic primarch, radiated in a golden aura of hope and salvation. On the other hand, there was the entity that dwells in Mephiston, after the "rebirth" of Callistarius, which represents the anger and revenge of the angel in combat, especially against the enemies of his beloved genetic children. Not much is explained as to whether these two "manifestations" of Sanguinius are part of his soul or are just Warp-intentional reflections of the collective emotions of the Blood Angels. Do we take this into consideration when speculating on the nature, origin and destiny of the Sanguinor? (That or I misunderstood what I read a lot)
@owenbevt3
@owenbevt3 4 жыл бұрын
The Elder need to study those structures and create regenerating soul stones.
@Knights_Oath
@Knights_Oath 4 жыл бұрын
I though The Sanguinor was Sanguinius's herlad. When Sanguinius, Guilliman, and The Lion landed with their legions on Davin. At some point Sanguinius was in a fight with a demon. With half of his body sticking out of warp portal the demon threatened to close on him. The Herald tackled the demon off Sanguinius and pushed him out of the portal as it was closing. As it was closing Sanguinius saw some warp magic happened to his herald that created The Sanguinor we know of today.
@LoFi_Sinner95
@LoFi_Sinner95 2 жыл бұрын
My head Canon in summary is that Horus beat Sanguinius to the point the Black Rage kicked in. The chaos gods abandon the warmaster in favor of his now monstrous brother. This leads to him being brought to within death's doorstep by his brother only saved when thier father intervenes. The big E gets skull dragged as well by the angel, only barely saved when a remorseful Lupercal blast the angel demon with a psychic blast that uses his very soul as ammo. This spits Sanguinius's soul into 3 parts with one staying as a ghost, the Sanguinor, and the other going into the warp.
@mattgrandich3977
@mattgrandich3977 3 жыл бұрын
Has there been any duels/fights that have occurred between real space and the Immatreum?
@darrianweathington1923
@darrianweathington1923 3 жыл бұрын
Always thought it was just Dante doing night shift
@chinua2584
@chinua2584 4 жыл бұрын
Dropped 1 second ago. YES.
@skaarj44
@skaarj44 4 жыл бұрын
Having Major Kill on your podcast would be sick!
@laurenbastin8849
@laurenbastin8849 4 жыл бұрын
I’m of the opinion the Sanguinor is indeed Aratron, powered by faith and trapped within the warp, perhaps empowered further by a shard of Sanguinious, becoming the Blood Angel’s own avenging angel, the voice and sword of their Gene-father, a Greater Daemon and Living Saint of the Imperium of Man and, most of all, a son trying to make his daddy proud :)
@spacecowboy2737
@spacecowboy2737 2 жыл бұрын
this was released tragically shortly before "Darkness in the Blood"
@jackdaalfbrainork6392
@jackdaalfbrainork6392 4 жыл бұрын
Some people I heard compared the Sanguinor to the star child Maybe hawk boy’s soul is split One stuck in the vengeful spirit and the other flying around helping the blood angles
@Dhovakiing
@Dhovakiing 4 жыл бұрын
I think The Sanguinor is a type of warp entity. Possibly made from the soul of the original Sanguinor. Much akin to the Legion of the damned or the watchers in the dark. It exists now as a benevolent warp spawn regardless of its origins.
@arshia2O.P
@arshia2O.P 4 жыл бұрын
wait if iskandar toke part of crystal as trophy can eldars use that crystal as soul stone . or use it to gather more of sanguinius soul to bring him back to life.his body is fine and didnt decay or anything problem always was his soul
@vergil8833
@vergil8833 3 жыл бұрын
I think he's basically like the Saints from the sisters of battle. Basically a sort of daemon of the emperor.
@permeus2nd
@permeus2nd 4 жыл бұрын
i believe its one of the greater demons of the Emperor and yes that also means i think the Emperor has become a Chaos god, the only thing im undecided on is has the Emperor of mankind become a chaos god or has the collected faith in him birthed a new god (or will birth a new good soon)
@shaunwilson6289
@shaunwilson6289 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps it’s like the black Templar’s choosing one of there own to make them fight all the more harder
@antonycooper2419
@antonycooper2419 4 жыл бұрын
its the blood angel that went to chaos to save sanguinius. in the book he says that he we return and help the angels when needed.
@leatherjacket9
@leatherjacket9 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like tmhe may be something like Drago of the greyknights. But we may not know for sure until he encounters black stone.
@RSBurgener
@RSBurgener 4 жыл бұрын
I think the Sanguinor is sort of like the Alpha Legion and the two lost primarchs. It's not that GW knows and just isn't telling. The Sanguinor just doesn't have a backstory. It is unwritten, and likely never will be. I doubt even the writers know or agree. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they put some conflicting information in the lore and novels. Whatever you decide when you bring him to the tabletop is as close as it'll ever be to being resolved. Because, as every experienced player knows, there's 40k and then there's YOUR 40k!
@Matthew-ws8md
@Matthew-ws8md 4 жыл бұрын
iirc wasnt there a Salamander that survived the from pre-Isstavan on a crashed ship that lived but had succumbed to muscle wasting from standing vigil over the ships contents for 10,000 years?
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
He was also repeatedly in and out of Sus-an comas too from what I recall. (Repeated Sus-an comas being one of the few methods to allow a space marine to live that long, along with being interred within a dreadnaught, as mentioned in the video :) )
@Matthew-ws8md
@Matthew-ws8md 4 жыл бұрын
@@40KTheories I do believe you might be right! I dont suppose you can recall the title of the story too? I remember the gist of the story but not where I read it.
@SgtThiel
@SgtThiel 4 жыл бұрын
Dantioch was aged by unnatural means, by a weapon. If he had aged naturally, maybe he would be healthier
@snakeyman5560
@snakeyman5560 4 жыл бұрын
How does the Sanguinor manage to appear on Baal despite the shadow of the Warp? This is sum bs.
@JohnSmith13334
@JohnSmith13334 4 жыл бұрын
Truthfully I believe we’re not far off from the Emperor dying and instantly becoming a warp God. Summoning the Legion of the Damned and just execute everything
@Neko_Medic
@Neko_Medic 4 жыл бұрын
i just realized i have only read one novel with the sanguinor (and already forgot which one DX) any recomendations?
@timsmith2062
@timsmith2062 4 жыл бұрын
Devastation of baal
@Neko_Medic
@Neko_Medic 4 жыл бұрын
@@timsmith2062 thanks
@jonathantheslow
@jonathantheslow 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe when the crystals on the Vengeful Spirit are shattered a portion of the souls are released.
@chrishomenuk15
@chrishomenuk15 2 жыл бұрын
I liked it when the Word Bearers could just summon deamon for nothing back in 5th or 6th 😅
@lordbonney9779
@lordbonney9779 4 жыл бұрын
So the Sanguinor just doesn’t like the lamenters then!
@joseantoniosantiago1258
@joseantoniosantiago1258 4 жыл бұрын
What if Vulkan led the Imperium after the War of the Beast?
@captainvalourous6668
@captainvalourous6668 4 жыл бұрын
So this is the guy who gets his ass beaten by the Adeptus Sororitas aka Celestine's yandare fangirls. 😅
@valravhknight1914
@valravhknight1914 4 жыл бұрын
Yep.... even the Tyranids can show mercy.....
@legionaireb
@legionaireb 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't he arrive accompanied by Legion of the Damned reinforcements during the Devastation of Baal?
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
Yup
@luibola208
@luibola208 4 жыл бұрын
@@40KTheories yes thats my next army: Legion of the Damned, Sanguinor, Celestine.
@Kreevox
@Kreevox 4 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking he's one of those "Imperial Daemons" like the Saints
@banebeard
@banebeard 4 жыл бұрын
It's the Red Angel, purified by his fathers' soul at the time of his passing.
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
By Red Angel, I assume that you don't mean Angron?
@banebeard
@banebeard 4 жыл бұрын
@@40KTheories nope, I'm referring to the warp entity created during the Signus incident, it had another name but I can't remember it. As far as I'm aware its' fate is undetermined as of yet.
@banebeard
@banebeard 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, its gothic name is Cruor Angelus
@KingLich451
@KingLich451 3 жыл бұрын
Game: Space Hulk: Vengeance of the Blood Angels
@jeffpurdy2562
@jeffpurdy2562 4 жыл бұрын
What If the 2 figures that dante saw were in fact two but the same the splitting of sangineus soul as he dies one becomes the crystal primarch and then the other to protect his sons in the darkest of days until the time the vengeful spirit is destroyed finally freeing all those trapped on board, or that when sanguinues died the emperor used his powers to save a portion of the soul of his son so that it would not be lost to the gods of chaos like that of ferrus
@EthanKristopherHartley
@EthanKristopherHartley 4 жыл бұрын
Wait. If I learned anything from James Bond (I didn't), then I know The Sanguinor isn't real. If you're covered in gold then you die... *Wheels out Dame Shirley and pokes her.* 🎶Gold... Fingerrrrr!🎶😜
@Duppyman695
@Duppyman695 4 жыл бұрын
Man with the Golden......... Everything?
@gryphonofmight
@gryphonofmight 4 жыл бұрын
Insert TTS reference here
@michaelkimberling7307
@michaelkimberling7307 4 жыл бұрын
All hail grand uncle!
@ericbrown9825
@ericbrown9825 4 жыл бұрын
Orkish borgar
@SpacePirateK
@SpacePirateK 4 жыл бұрын
Well, 40k Theories is TTS cannon....so this is all one huge TTS reference now.
@Duppyman695
@Duppyman695 4 жыл бұрын
"It is I Cato Sicarius and every Sanguineum I Cato Sicarius dress as a Golden Warrior so that I Cato Sicarius can bring joy to the good boys and girls of the Imperium
@SpacePirateK
@SpacePirateK 4 жыл бұрын
@@Duppyman695 Cato don't make us get Calgar in here to cast fist again.
@asssaa9010
@asssaa9010 4 жыл бұрын
So that's why eldar who make soul stone live in crone world's close to warp. This ship made the crystal in its raw form making human soul stones. So pour the warp in a galler field then the soul will crystallize forming a shape similar to the body. So they use soul pieces or concentrated sykic energy to form the soul crystal similar method that they make wraith bone.
@013wolfwarrior
@013wolfwarrior 4 жыл бұрын
Well I definitly belive its somekind of warp entity, most probrably a Living Saint of somekind
@utchiaRaven
@utchiaRaven 4 жыл бұрын
well if he is in the warp it make sens sens the time in warp is never consistent
@melvixen1943
@melvixen1943 4 жыл бұрын
As for the agequestion ... there are some spacemarines that are 10k years by one way or another. Nothing says a spacemarine couldnt get rejuv treatments. Others like chaosmarines like Abadon, lucius, Eidolon etc. Were immortal due to mutations and warp. Fabius bile meanwhile survived on cloned flesh and eventualy cloned bodies he could send his spirit to due to eldar tech. Even a perpetual could be possible. Easyest could be a basic stasis field.
@shadowdragon349
@shadowdragon349 4 жыл бұрын
40k Theories: It could be Azkaellon cause he uses the same weapons the Sanguinor uses that hardly anyone uses Also 40k Theories: it couldn't be due to the fact that ALL the Sanguinary Guard uses said weapon
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