What Happened To Leman Russ? - 40K Theories

[@daemonofdecay]

Magnus threw a ball into a webway gate, and Russ has been chasing it ever since.

[@TheKing-qz9wd]

Always just out of reach.

[@derrabbit7289]

🤣

[@olandewgamers9573]

How dare you insult the Wolf King!

[@agribrondua7438]

nice joke

[@agribrondua7438]

by the way he may see dorn

[@SangTheCryptek]

Lmao The Emperor shows up, and the first thing Russ does is challenge him to a drinking contest. We need this moment captured in a flashback in the TTS series, PLEASE.

[@rogaldorn3525]

Couldn't agree more, that would be hilarious to watch.

[@Zefurion1988]

Lets be real, the emperor probably Cheated.

[@robertnelson9599]

@@Zefurion1988 Actually, like 40K said the Emperor lost the first two contests. Russ started boasting, which angered the Emperor enough that he called the first two challenges jokes, revealed his true form (he was hiding behind an illusion) then punched Russ in the face, knocking him out immediately. Russ was so surprised and impressed he immediately swore fealty to the Emperor as soon as he regained consciousness.

[@patrickmcginty3234]

@@robertnelson9599 Sounds like the Big E is a sore loser.

[@Zefurion1988]

@@robertnelson9599 Omg its even worse than i thought. So you are telling me that the Emperor used his psychic powers to dazzel Leman....and then sucker punched him??? Wut lol.

[@danielbob2628]

He walked around in a circle three times and fell asleep.

[@helios0074]

Can't wait til they bring him back. The fact that the Lion and him buried the hatchet after the Heresy as well opens up the possibility of the two of them going on an ass kicking tour of the galaxy fighting side by side.

[@XenrickDHeart]

When did they bury the hatchet?

[@poodlescone9700]

In which heretics did they bury their hatchets in?

[@helios0074]

@@XenrickDHeart At the end of the book 'Leman Russ: The Great Wolf' they end their personal feud. Russ even mourns El'Jonson's "death" when the news reaches Fenris.

[@sofakingcool1555]

BRO TRIP v2.0

[@jacklang3314]

@@poodlescone9700 No heretics, Lion buried the sword in Leman's chest.

[@WanderingVictorious]

After Corvus “Cloud of Murder Crows” Corax apparently obtained the ability to shift between Warp-ish forms, perhaps there’s hope Leman developed similar powers after abandoning his armor, and now leads a Emperor’s daemoniac wolf pack in vengeance on some daemon world deep in the Eye. Can you hear the awoos of fearsome death? Those awoos are for you.

[@Ajehy]

Saige Pilgrim - this is now my head canon.

[@robertnelson9599]

This has been my head-canon since we found out Corax is still alive.

[@dootdeedootdeedoo]

I do think its similar to this if not this. Russ embraced the Wulfen and mastered it. Not he's bigger, stronger and retained his mental faculties becoming a sort of super primarch that can go toe to toe with the likes of Angron. And yes....all the awoo's

[@j.celgoog3275]

Ooooooh yes, that sound wonderful.

[@thomascruise4966]

@@j.celgoog3275 don't you mean awoo-nderful? 🤣

[@Just-J-10]

The answer is easy. Blood Ravens. They're trying to see if he'll fit in that Custodian armor they have.

[@Maxibon2007]

J …which will permanently seal itself around him keeping him immobile for all eternity, thus the descendants of the 1000 Sons Cordivae sect fleet based elements avenged their Primarch. Just. As. Planned.

[@MajinOthinus]

@@Maxibon2007 Magnus *does* apparently know what happened to him, sooo....

[@nitogame]

@@Maxibon2007 Blood Ravens are most likely Word Bearers not Thousand Sons.

[@Aceshot-uu7yx]

@@nitogame how so.they have more in common with the thousand sons than the eord bearers.

[@rawwset]

I think Russ is running around the Eye as a full blown Primark werewolf.

[@robertnelson9599]

Considering what happened to Corax, I think he is a primarch werewolf (wulfen) surrounded by a miniaturized blizzard.

[@Furzkampfbomber]

Why does this make me think of the tasmanian devil from the cartoons? :D

[@ianjewett3394]

Lets hope nothing so stupid.

[@brotheralaric7177]

@@Furzkampfbomber you mean Taz ? Ho shiet, now this could be canon.

[@Akaryusan]

[khorne hiding and shivering in fear in his brass citadel with a can of bear mace]

[@l33tninj4studios]

Some also believe the Tree of Life is none other than Isha herself. I remember hearing there was occurrences in Nurgle's garden that were believed to be the wolf king moving about and making his presence known as he marched towards where Nurgal kept his prize/waifu. Then they gave all credit to that spaz of a Grey Knight.

[@Maxibon2007]

l33tninj4studios New conspiracy theory : Leman Wolf IS Sigmar!

[@GRBoi1993]

Sleep can wait another 20 minutes, papa Remleiz has a story to tell!

[@AwesomeBlueDie]

1:37AM at my time of arrival, same boat brother

[@TheRealBelisariusCawl]

It is true that this particular cyber-dinosaur-adept, while being completely insane, has truly been blessed by the Omnissiah with the gift of storytelling.

[@Penguinmustache]

Russ is sulking in the Warp after being bombarded with messages from Eldrad, Cegorach Tzeentch and the Deceiver saying "Magnus did nothing wrong"

[@mihai000000]

@サイレントボイス magnus did plenty of shit wrong my dude.

[@DoctorDJJones]

Magnus did things wrong, but magnus' intentions were pure and good. He had the ability to stop the heresy through the ways of warning others about Horus, but he went about it in the wrong way in his most likely panicked state

[@mihai000000]

@@DoctorDJJones the way to hell is paved with good intentions my dude. Even the emperor himself did a lot of bad things out of pure intentions.

[@Southern_Crusader]

@@mihai000000 Agreed. Dude fucked up big time.

[@awesomehpt8938]

Daemons of Khorne are gonna eat you out like ice cream sandwiches once your red rage begins!

[@daswordofgork9823]

That is the most single, worst thing, you could have possibly said. Thank you- sister of battle.

[@latinpassion]

@@buterassassin1952 Gucci*

[@Locust-13]

Red rage Sisters of batlle are all female Khorne likes blood Red rage = Periods

[@cthulhupthagn5771]

@@Locust-13 dude . really? you felt the need to explain?

[@TheKing-qz9wd]

Actually with the idea of Russ having gone into the warp as he was dying, I have an idea. Perhaps Leman Russ thought to use the lack of time in the warp to preserve himself inside the warp. He won't age, he won't die. He just waits and keeps watch outside. When the time comes, maybe Russ intends to exit the warp in order to stand beside his dying men to their last breath. Or he wasn't being literal. Because the idea of a primarch having gone into the warp and becoming a werewolf but also Gandalf the White is cool but too good to be true.

[@informationyes]

Primarchs are immortal

[@TheKing-qz9wd]

@@informationyes If I remember correctly, Sanguinius is laughing at that statement.

[@thomascruise4966]

@@TheKing-qz9wd and Kurze, and Manus...

[@OMartinez91]

Gandalf the White Werewolf

[@poodlescone9700]

The Man Emperor of Mankind knows where Leman Russ is.

[@singletona082]

Currently shitstomping all of comrora.

[@robertnelson9599]

In all honesty, I bet that Leman is in the Realm of Khorne, beating up daemons.

[@ultra-papasmurf]

Leman Russ, *Currently on a lemon farm in T A H I T I*

[@exactinmidget92]

Good old Lemon Rust. Does he know he has tank named after him?

[@robertnelson9599]

Leman was the one who found the STC for the Leman Russ Tank.

[@brotheralaric7177]

@@robertnelson9599 that's also why space wolf have this tank in their rank.

[@Sykohsis]

>Lemon Rust Is this heresy? Cause it definitely seems like heresy to me.

[@thomascruise4966]

I thought Russ DESIGNED the tank, and they built the STC from that? That was from 5th/6th ed Codex and previous lore.

[@robertnelson9599]

@@thomascruise4966 Nope, he found the STC upon a planet I forgot the name of during the Great Grusade.

[@mastahoffman4137]

Corvus Corax has a warp form of many Ravens...Russ could just be a giant wolf in the warp... Maybe that's why he didn't need his armor anymore.

[@Taistelukalkkuna]

Wolves and ravens. Odin is pleased.

[@alphagonomegarius5068]

i´m pretty sure Odin didn't like wolfs that much XD

[@roguepsykerhaaker4813]

@@alphagonomegarius5068 bruh it was norse myth. Everyone loved wolves. No but for real Odin is known to be followed by 2 wolves

[@alphagonomegarius5068]

@@roguepsykerhaaker4813 laughs in Fenrir clening his teeth with a toothpick

[@roguepsykerhaaker4813]

@@alphagonomegarius5068 OK so there's one bad one, and plenty of others. I mean Odin even turned one of Loki's kids into a wolf himself. Can't hate them that much. OK bad example

[@TheOuchee]

"Fuck your gods" - The Emperor of mankind

[@viewernewest]

I like to think he is a prisoner of Nurgle in the plague God's garden, caged next to the Eldar goddess Issha. Nurgle is undoubtedly tempting the wolf king with her freedom and the restoration of the emperor of mankind in exchange for his fealty as his daemon prince.

[@viewernewest]

@Ben Siener who says Nurgle is limited to two champions?😎

[@berserkape1014]

@@viewernewest I mean....Lycanthropy has to have a start somewhere in 40k.....

[@robertnelson9599]

I bet Khorne is having him fight for all eternity against his mightiest Bloodthirsters.

[@Lmolina90]

I have read several theories stating that the tree of life quest mentioned in regards to Russ is actually implying that he set out to rescue Issha from Nurgle's garden. The hope being that she could heal the Emperor and/or help with the curse of the wolfen. It would make for a good prison break type store if you as me.

[@grandadmiral8173]

Or he could be caged by Slanesh to fufill her furry kinks

[@Robb1977]

While theres overwhelming evidence to support this over my own theories, I always hoped that Russ would overcome his short temper and eventually be more like the norse god Tyr. As a more judicial warrior, russ would likely use the spear given to him by the emperor (which previously he was too hot-headed to appreciate). Maybe him losing his armor is supposed to be like tyr losing his hand. One could imagine that he made some deal with a warp entity to relinquish his armor to save fenris (or the imperium) from breaking, as tyr did with his hand and fenrir. Which may explain how it ended up where it did. Again this is basically just speculation in trying to tie russ in with norse mythology... mostly because I think it would just be interesting. Additionally I never really saw russ as becoming an Odin type, and most of the Odin references come from his father: allfather, and the spear he gave to russ bearing the same name as Odin's (gungnir). Wheras the emperor creates russ to be his warrior component (like thor or tyr). However the emperor giving gungnir to russ instead of a hammer, implies to me that he intended Russ to become a more judicial warrior.... But the allfathers plans have failed before...

[@maxy1172]

Nah he is clearly with Fyodor and the inquisition stuck at cammoragh cause magnus sent the inquisition into the warp having them run into russ

[@jeffmusyoka1876]

That is canon to me too! Hail Bruva Alfabusa!

[@davesobani9565]

But isnt the wulfen state also something that makes those effected by it extremely resistant to the effects of the warp? If they can come to fully control this state then they would become unstoppable against the chaos legions

[@hectorandem2944]

If.

[@PezzaHando]

But surely of anyone can, it's a Primarch

[@edwinrosario3849]

They are based off werewolves so its entire possible for them to gain full control over that state, only problem is that those infected tend to only see it as a curse and do not embrace it as part of themselves. Once they do, so long as they do not become lost to the power of it, then full control is easily achieved.

[@darthkillhoon]

Russ is in the Warp drinking ale, pulling pranks and grew a giant cat beard

[@MrPlayboyPaul]

I'm only 6 minutes in and have had to pause the vid to say this is your best upload ever. I have watched all your vids, btw. More concise knowledge and inference I have not know. Kudos to you.

[@MrPlayboyPaul]

On with the vid.

[@l.warner3951]

I'm typing this on my phone. But how about if Leman Russ did become cursed with the wolfvion but instead of becoming a mindless beast, he has control over his new form. And when he returns he would become the Alpha of the pure and the cursed.

[@Kalashinator]

Warp-fuckery propelled him to an alternate universe where he has been transformed into Horo.

[@Kalashinator]

@@buterassassin1952 from Spice and Wolf

[@invaderHUNK]

Kalashinator gw writer here, can confirm waifu Wolf

[@Sykohsis]

I REFUSE to believe Russ is dead. I'm dedicated to the theory that he's looking for the Tree of Life. COME BACK TO MEEEEE DADDY RUSS!!!! I NEED YOOOOOOU!!!!

[@rangulfgimfang8322]

I think he went into thee eye of terror to search for a cure for the wollfen curse... And yes brother he needs to return to us.... FOR RUSS AND THE ALL FATHER

[@Sykohsis]

@Devon Crusader The door is that way --------> Please DO hurt yourself on the way out.

[@riissanen93]

Devon Crusader That one eyed tomato had to inject some chaos juice in himself in order to have some kind of chance in the future.

[@demilung]

Looking for the magic banana to heal the mon-keigh king?

[@Southern_Crusader]

Maybe it’s people calling him “daddy Russ” as you do is why he refuses to return.

[@palpadur1112]

ah the Space Wolves, they hold a special place in my heart as the first Space Marine Legion i took an interest in.

[@jacthing1]

you mean space Corgis

[@Shogundoxie1414]

I love Parting of the Ways, gives some more insight to Bjorn the Fell-Handed

[@Eisenwulf666]

"Twins they were.." oh,sorry ,wrong deadnought

[@zerograv185]

Dang, a lack of growth augmentations in number 20? They made Alpharius and Omegon smol on purpose. Harsh.

[@EbonFang_92]

easy for them to blend in with their legion

[@zerograv185]

@@EbonFang_92 Yeah, and then they made their regular marines HUEG by comparison too. Makes me wonder how they're supposed to be sneaky.

[@EbonFang_92]

@@zerograv185 they live in an era of vat grown muscle, they could probably fool people into thinking that they had muscle enhancements

[@Oliolli3]

Also, I think one of the short stories of the Horus Heresy mentions technology that allows an individual to falsify their size. A custodian uses it to blend in with the Terran population during the blood games.

[@informationyes]

But they have the tallest legionnaires

[@micaigneous_01]

I believe he's become like Corvus Corax but instead of it being a psychic manifestation he has become a "Wulfen" and hunts within the Eye of Terror or beyond. GW likely has something else planned but I think it would be cool to have a massive Wulfen Primarch on the field.

[@PezzaHando]

Werewolf Primarch that can go head to head with a Daemon Primarch yes please

[@OMartinez91]

Would be awesome if he was getting taken over by the Curse, but being in the warp for so long allowed him to be able to use his Wolfen form without losing himself. That would be cool

[@TheRaidenLP]

Russ is probably in the eye of terror, challanging everything to a drinking match

[@soliar5209]

I have been waiting for this, thank you

[@jadedkratos5528]

I prefer the idea that he's trying to find some way to bring his father back or maybe trying to locate Magnus and apologise for his actions (that most likely will never but hey, who knows.... Magnus might get bored of being all heretic-y and rejoin the fold?)

[@jacthing1]

nah too bright and cheerful....ALSO HERASY *BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM*

[@jadedkratos5528]

@@jacthing1 Who knows? Who knows if he's tired of hearing "LETS HAVE A MOTHER FUCKING BLOOD ORGY" from his brother Angron? Tired of hearing "Who's up for another round of tentacle hentai and dressing up as ladies from the Victorian era (or) who wants to braid my hair and help me test my new set of warp dust laced anal beads?" from his brother Fulgrim? Tired of the smell of rancid shit, rotting guts, oceans of malodorous sweat and the stench of 10 thousand year old piss coming off the sloven freaks of the Death Guard as well as the flies buzzing around the thing his brother Mortarion has become? Tired of hearing his bitch brother Lorgar crying about his daddy issues and how Roboute Guilliman ruined his precious little temples which big daddy E never wanted to begin with? Tired of hearing Failbaddon the Harmless screech about his next plan to take down the Imperium in another of his Crusades. Tired of Perturabo screaming "WHERE THE FUCK DID I PUT MY WRENCH AGAIN? I HAD IT JUST A FEW FUCKING MINUTES AGO?" Tired of the Night Lords dealing Warp Dust with the random heretics they come across and just being a public nuisance by getting blind drunk and pissing on his temple walls? Tired of Alpharius or not Alpharius sending his Legionaries to spy on his works or snooping through his rubbish bins on the regular because Alpharius or not Alpharius think Magnus is planning something against him. Maybe he's also tired of all the wannabe Chaos Space Marines trying to suck up to him? He's got a million reasons to say fuck this shit but a bitch aint gonna be one.

[@MrJohnycomelately21]

The Thirteenth company have re-emerged, it's entirely possible that very little time has actually passed for Russ and his companions in the Warp. As for his Armour he's Russ, he doesn't need a reason.

[@TheMrmessyal]

He’s at the vets

[@Yggi11]

Magnus the Red: "When it is done and Fenris is... ashes... then you have my permission to die."

[@oldgrognard7662]

Obviously, I am very late to the party and I apologize for the long post. This thought has been in my head for a while and it is either a crazy idea or brilliant, and I am honestly torn as to which it is. So hear me out on this one, it's definately a strange theory: Leman Russ had stated he was dying in the "Wolftime" speech (maybe real death, maybe Wolfen curse, strong arguments for many ideas). He departed with a small group of the Wolves. Much later, his armor was confirmed found. He hasn't been seen in thousands of years. What if he has been hiding in plain sight? Grievously wounded space marines are put in dreadnoughts. What if, as a twist in the future lore, Leman Russ is Murderfang? Remember, Murderfang is a crazed dreadnought that the Wolves discovered, on the frozen planet of Omnicide (strangely, Russ's armor generated a freezing field around it). Regardless, the Wolves trust Murderfang enough to fight alongside it? Why would they trust it? If the answer is the legendary instinct of the Space Wolves, why would they instinctually trust a dreadnought with an unknown, crazed occupant? Likley only because it was Russ himself, or they would have most likley destroyed Murderfang when he was found as they would have assumed the occupant to have fallen to Chaos. Yet he was not destroyed, so is Murderfang Leman Russ in a Dreadnought? And my opinion is that if my wild theory is true, and Russ is Murderfang, he will likley become mentally stable again at some point. Just a crazy theory from a crazy old gamer.

[@simonwelsh9117]

What about when ragnar blackmain found the 13th company in the warp and the wyred/pysker sent him back into normal space saying that they with russ will meet again!?

[@clemo85]

His speech about dying is in actuality, him succumbing to the Wulfen. But he's probably got a similar ability to Corax in that he can transform from his human self to a gigantic wolf.

[@XArctracerX]

imagine if Russ and Corax come across each other in the warp. they'd be like "what the fuck are you doing here?"

[@chickpaints]

Nice video Rem, As my first army I have lots of love for the route.

[@MrAbraxus666]

"Rogal Dorn gets torn apart by Traitor Astartes, yet they were kind enough to neatly remove and stack Mr Russ' armour" Nah, not believing my favourite four legged Primarch got taken oot by Chaos.

[@---TylerDurden---]

Papa Russ just went out in the middle of the night to get a packet of cigarettes......He'll be back anytime now.

[@acousticnoisemachine]

Russ is one of 40k's paper tigers. He boasts about being able to best any of his brothers, but he lost every fight against other primarchs with the exception of Magnus. And, unpopular opinion, I think Magnus would have won in a one on one duel. In Thousand Sons, their fight clearly shows that Magnus was having to not only fight Russ, but was also keeping the Space Wolves legion at bay single handedly and preparing the teleportation spell that would save his legion. Not to mention having to deal with Russ's wolves, who were instrumental in preventing Magnus from killing Russ.

[@hughgedney3393]

Very great video as always 40k Theories.

[@snakeyman5560]

"Could best all his brothers but 2, Sanguinius, and Konrad Kurze" *Laughs in Lion El Johnson*

[@JennFaeAge]

Maybe Corvus and Leman are hanging out with MacGuffin, the Chaos God of plot devices :-P

[@VoiceOfTheEmperor]

No Zoran the Bear as Leeman Russ?? Why??

[@dillonleon5558]

VoiceOfTheEmperor zoran moved to a new state so this videos audio was likely recorded during that time

[@invaderHUNK]

VoiceOfTheEmperor Zoran The bear is still locked up by the Loli police

[@lexex2550]

@@invaderHUNK oh yes, he was jailed in VR.

[@ThePessimisticTech-Priest]

@Devon Crusader *Calls every Inquisitor in the Segmentum, points dramatically at Devon with a Cyberdong of righteousness.* This one right here my Lords.

[@daggerfalls101]

Great video! a small nitpick, but in regards to the armor, would the generators not be endothermic, considering that they take in energy? Overall great watch!

[@thomascruise4966]

Russ and his best Wolf Guards were called into the Eye to flank the daemons attacking the Terran Webway. They met up with the 13th Company and the remaining Custodes and Eldar and have slowly been pushing the daemons away from the Terran gate and repairing the warp rifts, thereby negating the need for the Emperor to sit on the Golden Throne and freeing him to once again lead humanity when he is restored to life. Russ's forces were subsequently bolstered by the very first Primaris Marines, which then freed Russ to dispatch the 13th Company back to the material realm to assist after seeing the birth of the Cicatrix Maledictum, with the vagaries of time in the Warp allowing the bulk of the 13th Company to arrive PRIOR to the start of the 13th Black Crusade in effort to buy time for the final success of Russ and his forces in clearing the Webway and reviving the Emperor. This is also why the Eldar despatched a team to revive Guilliman, knowing he alone had the tactical acumen and skill to combat Chaos in the interim. During this time, Russ was afflicted by the Wulfen curse and mastered it, thus gaining either the ability to shift between Primarch and Wulfen-Primarch form, or exist permanently as a Wulfen-Primarch form with his mental faculties intact who can best the most savage of the Daemon Primarchs in single combat.

[@TheCoulsonlax]

Is this cannon? Because I really hope so and it’s written very well

[@thomascruise4966]

@@TheCoulsonlax it's not canon, but I wish it could be...

[@alericantonelli4656]

@@thomascruise4966 it really should be canon. Would make a lot of sense with what is currently nonsensical lore.

[@yadakakadu]

He was "gifted" to the Blood Ravens.

[@markrtoffeeman]

He's waiting for Gulliman to blow the whistle for him to return

[@Tpainactual]

He's a wolf demon thing now. It would also explain why he doesn't need his armor. The same way corax became a bird demon

[@MrGrim]

I continue to offer my services to you Lord Inquisitor. I know how to edit, I understand the basics of voice over, in a huge fucking 40k fan, and I'll put it in writing that I'd do work for free. Simply because I love your work.

[@sagasilverwolf5242]

In one of Ragnar Blackmane's novels, Magnus confesses that he knows where Russ is

[@davethedestroyer9727]

All the loyalist primarchs are on side-quests while Guilliman is doing the main storyline quests

[@patricksmith9700]

Personally I don't think the space wolves gene seed has a flaw I think it's by design

[@Southern_Crusader]

The Emperor had fun with that.

[@MotiviqueStudio]

"Murderous Chill" is the name of my next house album.

[@Zakvadr1995]

Watch Russ actually leave the warp with Isha, kick down the doors to the Imperial Palace, say hi to Guilliman and Yvrain, march down the the basement and “plant” Isha next to Big E.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

Russ is just trying to one-up Guilliman.

[@Schnittertm1]

He's probably just looking for Sanguinius soul in the warp to ask Hawkboy if he was actually a Vampire.

[@Starman_Dx]

Legends say he was challenged to a contest by a slannesh demon. He required a new suit of armor for this contest. Russ has traveled the Warp gathering the greatest of pelts for this new armor. Only the finest fur for his suit.

[@TheSylvanoshei]

If the warp-lost idea is possible, then the idea that Leman Russ and his merry band of space marines have been in the warp for a mere moment should also be considered. A million years per second can be considered from both directions. They could pop up with a great bit "WTF happened? We were gone for a week?" kind of expression tbh.

[@demilung]

- Why would he abandon his armour? Well, how do I explain this... What's the drunkest you've ever gotten?

[@johnnyscifi]

Am i the only one surprised that the Lion wasnt a Dauntless Few? Lastly, its awfully suspicious that both Russ, and Corvax had similar "awakenings", Sounds like they were drawn away by the same reason(s)...;)

[@TheShadowInTheMask]

Can you do more Mortarion lore/speculation?

[@randomdude4339]

It has been certifiably documented that the Emperor took Russ behind the barn, subsequently returning alone and stating, "Hes gone to a better place".

[@steelfist1305]

Sending this to my brother, he's a Space Wolves (and Leman Russ) fanatic!

[@PezzaHando]

What if him falling to the curse and mutating but reclaiming his senses allows him to grow powerful enough to go toe to toe with a Daemon Primarch, now that would be a battle to behold

[@alphariusomegon4432]

I knew there was a reason I was so short! Screw you Dad!

[@UncleMikeDrop]

I think it would be interesting if Leeman Russ' body succumbed to the curse, but due to his loyalty to the Emperor and through sheer force of will which is often made manifest in the immaterium, his mind did not. I like to think of it as a sort of loyalist apotheosis.

[@andrewburgess8529]

in the novel the battle of the fang Magnus comments that "Rus was still alive but probably wishes he wasn't". This indicates to me that he met an unfortunate fate but wasn't killed, either Rus succumbed to the wulfen curse but did not die & exists as a feral beast on some world of horrors in the eye or he was captured (most likely by Magnus) and is imprisoned and tormented somewhere deep in the eye. In either case the chance that Rus will return remains, in my personal view it will probably be Corax who finds Rus and returns him to the imperium as i don't think their is anyone else who would be able to.

[@guyswartwood3924]

My problem with the last theory about Russ taking his greatest warriors with him to kill him if he devolved; 1. Where are the surviving warriors? Primarchs aren't not usually that miscalculating. I would make sure that I brought enough warriors to ensure success. 2. The survivors would never let their primarch's armor be taken to a chaos shrine.

[@herpicusmc.derpington2878]

Both Angron and Magnus have returned to the physical plane for some time, a lack of response from Russ can only mean he's dead, or a raging feral beast.

[@matthewcowan6337]

I like the wolfen theory. It would be pretty cool if he does show up and like his wolf mother recognizes the same genetic make up of his sons and fights alongside them in his wolfen state, if that's what happened.

[@Shelldrakeaus]

I like to think he is sitting next to Johnson's stasis sleep like a family member next to a coma patient

[@frankstojespal9805]

Ended up twisted by the warp and spat back out into a distant agrarian world where he ends up bumming a ride from a Rogue Trader to get back to the snowy domains of home, can't quite get rid of the wolf ears and tail though.

[@forvafor]

Horo?

[@MrAirpumpkin]

I think... we're gonna see bjorn felhanded thrown through the rubicon primeurs and be reborn as "Not a dreadnaut" well before rus ever returns

[@StealthNinja4577]

I like to think that good fulgrim is stuck inside his body trying to come out, good horus is still trying to finish those challenges, good magnus is split up in those shards to try and come back, and that the loyalist primarchs that entered the warp are trying to fish them out

[@cuban-being3087]

New theory: Leman (like beowulf) noticed that the warp wasn't wearing armor so he ran bare ass into the warp. Leman and Kaldor are probably tag teaming greater demons.

[@bulwyf2572]

I am a little surprised there's no mention of the 8th edition SW codex that explicitly states all the prophecies for Russ''s return have been met. He can come back at any point in the ongoing 40k storyline. I fully expect him to come back. The only question is if he's Odin old man Russ or Wulfen Russ. I hope for old man Russ.

[@steveforrest1885]

It would be awesome if russ has devolved to a wulfen, but unlike regular wulfen he actually evolves retaining his personality intelligence but gaining massive speed strength and durability of the wulfen. He could then bring a calming and understanding wulfen slowing more to transform but retain the mental faculties. This would also transform him into the equivalent of a primaris primarch.

[@lolzhammer8281]

The search for a way to heal his father seems the most likely, as it's in keeping with his loyalty to those he considers his pack... Look for him to be one of those primarchs who return in this apparent "end times" routine GW is running.

[@UDAWAPBADDY]

I thought everyone knew that Russ and Valdor were together in the warp trying to save and find Isha so she can heal the Emperor. It’s pretty much confirmed this is the case in the story “Two Metaphysical blades”

[@laurarichardson649]

When chaos is on the verge of holy Terra Jaghatai Khan Corvus Corax and Leman Russ are going to charge out of the warp and save the imperium

[@clemo85]

Like how Corax is able to morph, I predict Russ can do the same but into a giant wolf. This would be why hes abandoned his armour and why he says that hes 'dying'

[@SkaerKrow]

Two thoughts. First (and less likely), Leman Russ fell under the influence of Magnus the Red, who lured him into the Eye of Terror to torture him and his best warriors in punishment for Prospero. It's a longshot, but we know that Magnus has an axe to grind, and that the powers of Chaos have a keen interest in keeping the Loyalist Primarchs out of play. Second, Leman Russ knew that he was succumbing to the curse of the Wolfen, that he would become a nearly unstoppable monster, and resolved to go into the Eye of Terror where he could credibly rampage with little to no fear of his destruction hurting the Imperium. This seems more likely (and opens the door for an eventual twelve foot tall Leman Russ wolf-primarch in our future), but doesn't really explain why he took almost all of his personal retinue with him.

[@jackrogers5712]

LOVE the track from DOWII in the background for this video.

[@SabreJ]

I love the idea of the wold time coming about and Russ being dead. His soul in some weird prison shit then just climbs out all calmly and casually resurrects himself.

[@derekdrake8706]

He is Fenrir, Wolf of Ragnarok. He will be there at the End, just like he promised, to wreak terrible vengeance. I'm guessing he turned in the Warp and is using the immaterium to deliver him to that final battle. Don't be shocked if he ends devouring stars lol

[@Erikjust]

I would explain the difference between the two quotes as such: One is accurate and the other is either wishful thinking and denial or someone trying to explain why he hasn´t returned. The first one from the parting of ways might be Bjorn still wanting his primarch to return and as such deliberately chose to forget the part where Russ said that he was dying. and as such when he remembers Russ´s final words the part where he says he is dying is deliberately left out of his memories. The other option is that the qoute as put in the parting of ways is correct and Russ made no mention of him dying only that there was still beast left to slay and that he had an oath to fulfill. However as time went on and he had yet to return, and the story of his final word was continually told from mouth to mouth, in time the part "as i am dying" was added to explain why Russ hadn´t returned. The skjalds might have theorized that Russ knew he was dying and as such chose to go out in an honorable way fighting chaos, with his best men accompanying him to provide him a propper funeral pyre and perhaps accompany him into the next life. The only reason why Bjorn wasn´t allowed to go with him, was to make sure the chapter didn´t splinter after his death. As time went on and that story had been told time and again maybe even Bjorn´s memory has started to become altered. All things considered there is truth to the statement that "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." So the line about Russ saying he was dying, might have been a lie at the beginning but eventually, it was told enough times that people believed it to be true. Also i take it (that since you didn´t mention it) the theory that Russ was trapped in a Hollow Star by Magnus the Red isn´t one you put much stock in despite Magnus´s little quote "and you´re.. well let us not mention where you are now." It could certainly imply that Magnus knew where Russ where at that moment in time, so the trapped in a hollow star might not be too out the question as to where Russ is at the moment.

[@chadfreakinL]

Maybe after sensing the curse of the wulfen coming on he knew that the defiant nature of the warp may preserve him long enough that he could stay there until needed for another major conflict with time not impacting him nearly as much as it would if he stayed in normal space.

[@SuperBeautifulNoise]

Damn the Spacewolves and Russ are cool.

[@m.g.9468]

I think he embraced his warp-nature and became wolves-like entity, just like Corvus became a raven. Thats why he did not need an armor anymore.

[@terrenusvitae]

He's gone to a quiet farm in the countryside.

[@marcog.verbruggen674]

I live this title. Not "What is the true fate of Leman Russ" or "What are the true whereabouts of Leman Russ" or anything like that, just "yo *what the fuck happened* to him???"

[@TheSeanoops]

It’s very amusing that Lehman Russ could drink the Emperor under the table. I’d pay big money to see that event fleshed out in an official Black Library book.

[@seanread5556]

Leman russ: i could take any of my brothers in a fight Horus and Angron: we're gonna stop you right there...

[@Tathion]

If you look into the Heracy book rules, Russ is one MEAN charater killer and probably could take them!

[@centurionsword2438]

It should be noted that Magnus himself said he knows where russ is (which may imply he is alive) but would not tell where he is (can't remember the source). Edit: it's The Battle for the Fang

[@valeastora4185]

Source?

[@centurionsword2438]

@@valeastora4185 It is The Battle for the Fang

[@Ajehy]

This is a “raised by wolves” story I can truly get behind... after all, there are no wolves on Fenris.

[@zeevdrifter2707]

Brand redmaw showed mastery over the "curse" of the wulfen, more space marines have begun showing control or a semblance of former intelligence after the transformation, or in the case of brand redmaw full control to shift back and forth as he pleases, this combined with the fact Cawl couldn't remove the curse or flaw without risking major damage to the space wolves DNA tells me this was an on purpose by the emperor. We've seen the blood angels Liberian control and master the black rage which gave him a huge power boost. And corvax got a new unexpected power to turn into a shadowed talon monster, it seems logical that Russ has mastered the wulfen and can become a giant wolf monster, further more wulfen are noted for their resistance to chaos taint as well manifesting stronger in the presence of chaos, like some kind of defense mechanism how convenient considering where Russ went?

[@EbonFang_92]

there are many theories, but the Erlking said it best, the knowledge that Russ knows will drive him from Fenris. I believe that with the psychic awakening, the wolves will soon be forced to make their final stand. The armories will be emptied, weapons ancient and powerful will be unleashed. Will the Fell-Handed take up the Spear and will they both be the beacon to call Russ home?