Warhammer 40,000 VS Star Wars, Star Trek, Halo etc & Why Warhammer Always Wins

[@GrugSmesh]

Star Trek fans want to live in star trek. Star Wars fans want to live in star wars. 40k fans DON'T want to live in 40k.

[@bornesone]

KommissarKek accurate

[@rocatiusmatautia-solomona1314]

star trek is kinda good but fuck any other universe. I dont wanna live in a universe with a civil war happening everywhere or a war between ancient humans who are now robots. Or fucking 40k.

[@jameson1239]

I would hate lo live in any of them

[@kannorkallingzvorth9809]

KommissarKek speak for yourself I want to be a space Marine

[@tzeentchnco.7441]

Unless you are either one, one of the Chaos gods or two, a daemon Why? Cause For me and my brothers and sister, and fuck all you guys and your anathema, who once crashed a space hulk into one of my crystal gardens

[@thekiller7994]

*How do you travel the universe?* Star Trek: We use warp speed Star Wars: We use hyperspace Halo: We use slipspace Warhammer 40K: We go through hell

[@thebaconsonful]

The tyranids use magnetism to bend reality.

[@TheVerendus]

Minecraft: We go through hell too

[@pyrovonfire7966]

Doom: You guys too?

[@Handles_arent_a_needed_feature]

TheVerendus warhammer was inspired by minecraft confirmed

[@furrytimelord]

Doctor who: We use tardises and the time vortex

[@scott2696]

Warhammer 40k is like the cartoon were two guys keep pulling out bigger guns and it never ends.

[@ancientwizard3055]

tottaly disagree warhammer 40k isn't about who is stronger. I would say we from the start know a lot about some characters who are over any powerlimits, about gods etc. warhammer 40k main theme is - suffer. it doesn't metter who you are - you will suffer non stop. even primarhson of living god. the normal people litteraly belive that primarh is gods - and still the suffer. the whole races are suffering always close to be destroyed the suffer. even necrons who are race of soulless robots who are overpowered in wh40k universe and the race who killed or slaved their own gods - they are suffering. I would say I do not remmember any big victory in wh40k at all. yes you can win a battle or something like that . even stoping horus herecy doesn't feel like victory at all. every victory more looks like just like complete 1 task at the work . Even Kadia. yes for imperial it is a lost. but for chaos is it victory? it is like more 1rst step. and for some people Kadia fall - make some of them stronger

[@hudsonhoneycutt2485]

@ancient wizard *pulls out bigger gun*

[@manictiger]

​@@ancientwizard3055 Human: Dying for the emperor isn't suffering. Nurgling: These blessings aren't suffering. Tyrannid: Planet taste good Orc: War fun, haw haw haw haw! Drukhari: What is the difference between suffering and pleasure? T'au: What do you mean "suffering"? I don't know what that is.

[@ancientwizard3055]

@@manictiger human - when you are 100% loyal and mister inqusitor think that there is a small chanse that you are not loyal, and arrest you and start torture and asking a question about things that you didn't know that even exist. like warp chaos, magic. ye man it is suffering. cult mechanicus who degenerate so hard that toaster become great thing at the same time while you are traveling on the huge planet size ship and deep inside you u understand how stupied you are compare to pre horus eresy mechanicus.

[@ancientwizard3055]

@@manictiger chopped on half tau can feel suffer. orc who wasn't fighting like for a month I said a 1 YEAR WITHOUT GREAT WAAGH. Drukhari: we just killed our last slave and white scar is hunting us on the web sad face.

[@ilicktrains8304]

A star wars laser rifle equivalent in 40k, the lasgun is seen as a flashlight relative to the threats they face, that just goes to show the scale

[@M4421-O]

A lasgun can blow a person's head apart with a single shot too

[@spudnik4305]

​@@M4421-Oif i recall, it also NEVER JAMS (although i could be wrong).

[@nonya1366]

@@spudnik4305 They're Very reliable. But not infallable. You can drag them through mud, muck, sand, and still fire just fine. But sometimes the machine spirit gets testy and you lose the magazine's charge.

[@snakeeye814]

a star wars blaster is not a laser weapon. ;)

[@TheMilitantMazdakite]

No, the Lasgun is similar in power to an autogun, and star wars lasers are more powerful than that.

[@TheMustangForce]

Stars wars: Sir we lost over 40000 people in this massive battle. we need to retreat 40k: only 3 billion losses for one small moon, lets add 3 more for good measure

[@kana22693]

Life is so cheap in 40k that I can actually buy _"lets risk throwing another 3 billion into the meat grinder just to be sure"_ as a viable military tactic.

[@Spideryote]

@@kana22693 When in doubt, drown them in a sea of peasant blood.

[@PartOfTheGame]

Only three? I smell heresy...

[@bladeofhel]

And yet, there are plenty of military organisations in Star Wars that are far larger than 40k. Just in the core films alone, we have the Galactic Empire and the Separatist Droid Army, which are larger on an order of magnitude.

[@captainstag8189]

70 million casualties HAH THAT'S A ROOKIE NUMBER

[@Luumiie]

The philosophy of 40K is “If everything overpowered, nothing is overpowered”

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

Except if it's the Ultramarines.

[@danshakuimo]

DOTA balancing is this supposedly

[@yosefyonin6824]

exc for the poor poor ig

[@UNSCMarine117]

"when everyone is super, no now will be"

[@malickmezianiiloveanime210]

And that’s f*cking true !!!

[@SuaveGuyJosh]

Starwars: Open your mind and feel the force around you WarHammer40K: “and open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded”

[@Codex_0613]

the force is magic, and magic is heresy

[@neutralview8788]

Nice quote there from the 40k rules book.

[@SuaveGuyJosh]

Neutral View aha ty bro

[@REXY22FULL]

Hey! Dawn of War's librarian says it too!

[@ChronicAndIronic]

Open your mind with the fist of a space marine

[@reptarcar]

Nerdy point on accuracy, the bolter fires a round out the barrel first which then ignites a charge and continues accelerating. So it's technically still a gun, just one that fires highly specialised rounds.

[@deadoger2934]

gyrojett be like

[@KissMy2Moons]

@@deadoger2934 mixture of both

[@mrfigaloopierre9610]

It's called a rocket assisted projectile, he use them in artillery guns.

[@nolanmcintire831]

The round then explodes when it hits the target, which is why it's more like a rocket

[@Sorain1]

@@nolanmcintire831 Default bolter shells are fused to explode inside the target, on on contact. The goal being to blow open a big crater in the target.

[@joegroves2517]

As a counterpoint, if a space marine tried to board a Star Trek or Star Wars ship they'd just be stuck in a tiny hallway.

[@ONEIL311]

They probably get stuck in a door not the hallway

[@penjaminthestrange4427]

if the hallway or door is too small, they rip open a dozen new doors and shoot anything in sight

[@icicle_ai9748]

Send in the kriegsmen

[@anevilgoose1034]

I dont know why, but I'm just imagining an astartes "Austin Powers"ing himself lol

[@anevilgoose1034]

@@rz7282 AVENGE ME BROTHER!!

[@janfrancissulit5613]

SW: "We have AT-AT's." 40K: "We have churches that walk." SW: "What?!" 40K: "what?"

[@pretzelbomb6105]

“This walker has 4 turbo laser cannons, armor capable of shrugging off fighter weaponry, and space for several dozen troopers.” “So a light patrol vehicle then?”

[@Static22chip]

*cough* apocalypse class titan was able to be seen from orbit *cough*

[@kyle18934]

@@mekhane.broken9678 because they destroyed the darn computers that had the information in them. Going from automated design to paper sounds disastrous lol

[@XD-lj9ue]

Yeah. They destroyed the computers tho because they were afraid that chaos would corrupt it and steal the information and tech written inside (not the whole story but from what i surmise)

[@kyle18934]

@@mekhane.broken9678 but then someone would have to know all of the schematics of the titian (i think thats what they are called) there is only so much someone can see on paper or on stone. you know in the height of the imperium, the factories could probably pump those titans out in a week, or maybe a month

[@hektorlarner8725]

By his estimate, there are are 50 trillion guardsmen. Most call that overkill, 40k calls it inadequate

[@rooby0670]

yeah I think that that estimate because most hive worlds have a few hundred billion inhabitants, not 6 XD

[@kriss3d]

Well. There's worlds with many many billions people. So you'd have even a billion guardsmen right there. But also not every planet has even 50K guardsmen. But most would ans it would. Be in the vast millions at the very least. So it's closer to 500 trillion.

[@masterzoroark6664]

"Most of you will die, but this is a sacrifice I am willing to make"

[@gyphryphobia]

That number seems low for some reason

[@emjaaaay]

@@kriss3d Armatura alone had a garrison of 1 billion guardsmen.

[@zaqzilla1]

In other settings killing entire planets is relatively rare. Where as killing planets happens on the regular in 40k.

[@lennardchurch8483]

Not nearly as common in 40k's canon as its fans pretend it is. If it were, the Imperium would have run out of planets thousands of years ago.

[@taelorpickel2830]

No it doesn't but sure I guess.

[@Lucy.2008]

Well it's not quite as common but it isn't like something completely unheard of, it's like how a plane crash or something is in our world

[@OJNixon]

Funny story about Orks A group of guardsmen and their commisar are holding out against a wave of orks, and eventually they run out of power packs for their lasguns. Unfased, the commisar picks up a guardsman's weapon, points it at an oncoming ork, yells "BANG!", and the ork falls dead. Amazed, the guardsmen follow suit, orks falling left and right. A few minutes later, a group of orks come running towards the position, not dropping to the men's loudest 'bang's; only when they get closer do the guardsmen hear them chanting "I'm a tank I'm a tank I'm a tank!".

[@janthion3590]

OJNixon w-w whahahababababababahahahahahahahhahahahahahha Jeeeezzzzzzummm

[@NGMK]

OJNixon Please tell me this is cannon

[@290naz]

It would seem that the only way to defeat an Ork is to play on their level

[@jamesgeorge7579]

Orks are the ultimate example of the power of belief

[@martinroner5688]

NGMK it could well be. belief is power in the warp and no other species demonstrates that bettar than the orkz

[@livingrecorder6270]

He ain't joking when he said every other race is overpowered because there's a race called Necrons and they use gods as double AA batteries and they supernova suns for fun

[@detonater7441]

Not really that powerful although the comedic content of your comment is respectable 😂

[@NooBTvv2]

@@detonater7441 HERESY!............. wait a min

[@thegodofspeed23]

Imagine if there were as many marines as guardsmen no one could stop the imperium

[@HighSchoolHacks1]

the prometheans from halo are essentially necron lychguard but you get to feel how annoying and near unkillable they are

[@thegodofspeed23]

@@HighSchoolHacks1 just weaker versions of necrons essentially

[@KiwiSpartan01]

Necrons: ancient, soulless robots who destroyed their gods and now use them as pokemon

[@eith42]

That's the best description I've ever heard! 😂😂

[@johnwillies7861]

True! play dawn of war soul storm you will know why

[@kabalanstef9636]

@@johnwillies7861 the necrons in that game are insanely strong. Just... free construction bots, free infantry and you can mass resurrect them forever. Like, I had a game where I got to have 40 full squads of necron warriors.

[@picklesandnori]

And kind of immortal

[@tkrowgamer]

@@picklesandnori With enough buffs and effects they will not go down easily and they will not stay down when they do.

[@thomaskok5773]

As one honorable space marine once said: "Abandon reason, know only war." That pretty much sums up the whole point.

[@lordnul1708]

Warhammer 40K always wins because 40K can't survive 40K.

[@jgzzv1697]

The worst enemy of 40k is 40k itself

[@mrginge143]

Peasant oh I hate tau, and I hate the tyranids, and I hate the imperium of man, damn the imperium of man... they ruined the imperium of man

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

@@mrginge143 The imperium of man is an absolute shithole, not even taken into account the constant threat of other xenos races. -No wonder why so many people join fucking CHAOS!- -And looking closer, there's literally no setbacks for joining chaos, apart from horrible mutations, hideous diseases, getting fucking MURDERING CRAZY!! and probably getting assraped with a chainsword, but you'll enjoy it anyways- Hehe, but of course is better to die in the light of the EMPRAH than to give in to the ruinous powers of KHEYOSS!! -Can I go now, inquisitor?-

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

@@elijahmanaghaya6038 Dude, a single xeelee would nuke the entirety of WH40K. A bunch of Xeelee nightfighters would destroy the chaos gods. Time travel is too OP for WH40k to deal with.

[@larkalfen9510]

That's a sad reality of 40k Give it few thousand years and they will collapse under pressure of many xeno scum

[@macaroni1864]

I think I speak for the other imperial guard players, if we can not kill our enemies, we will drown them in our blood.

[@SoulSoundMuisc]

Death Korps of Krieg Soldier: "Did somebody say die for the Emperor?!" *fixes bayonet*

[@floridferret4585]

Well, you know. If clogging the meat grinder is all you got.

[@benlubbers4943]

I PREFER ARTILLERY SHELLS.

[@ragnokulfbhert]

"BY THE EMPEROR, They are numberless... But so are we, CHARGE!"

[@Schnittertm1]

Ah yes, glorious Imperial Guard tactics, throw men, ammunition and material at the problem in copious amounts until the problem either disappears or you need something more powerful to make it disappear.

[@cybronikai1957]

Its hard to beat a universe that is balanced through an arm's race between each of the writers favorite armies

[@detonater7441]

Not particularly, WH40k is low mid tier

[@josuke3698]

​​@sneedfeedandseed2410ragon would do horrible, a psyker just needs to rupture the heart of a Saiyan or the blood vessels in their head

[@SeanCrosser]

Because the point of 40k is that no one faction has any actual advantage.

[@asteranightshade2981]

​@@detonater7441the warp.

[@nefanyo5788]

That is literally how it started out.

[@lahnhedberg3403]

Warhammer 40k where every gun has the description of cutting through space marine armor like butter except for the standard guard laser gun.

[@Wichnam]

When a planet busting event happens: In any sci-fi universe… The inhabitants break before the planet does. In 40 K, the planet breaks before the defenders do.

[@kilmindaro3]

Cadia still stands in our hearts

[@slavkebab6553]

@@kilmindaro3 noo, stop, im gonna cry ; - ;

[@angelchronicles9848]

*cries in cadian

[@joelelmlund4972]

The 42th Guardian regiment of the Kyros system (my own army, nerdy I know but meh!) will honor the memory of Cadia and HOLD THE LINE!

[@Denis-ej9fu]

The planet broke before the guard.

[@kingbrit4583]

Star wars: the planet has been overun, we need to retreat. Imperium: hehe exterminatus goes *VROOOOOM*

[@random40kfan57]

Exterminatus is a very serious process that is thoroughly considered and will be in application only if the planet is considered irredeemable and regaining will cost more than what it is worth

[@gergokerekes4550]

@@random40kfan57 inqusitors be like: wanna see me press this button again? and again?

[@random40kfan57]

@@gergokerekes4550 space wolves be life wanna get a 1v1 rematch

[@Minotaur-ey2lg]

Throw a few billion guardsmen at it, then call it a loss. Gotta be sure.

[@dogcatchen]

i am your 666th like

[@mikaruyami]

Orks : gets force choked by a sith. Other Orks : " If wez just hol' hand like such, wez can chokes people."

[@gardevoir7137]

Rip the entirety of the galaxy

[@akshayjb8205]

@Johan Åkesson SO05b just make sure other orks believe that

[@anonymousdolan4862]

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!?!?

[@nurgleslefttentacle6844]

I really wish that there was a "lol" reaction to this comment. Best thing I've read in ages!

[@sugargay7168]

Oh dear god, you just created orks with the force

[@izaiaholer9876]

I made the fatal mistake of reading ONE warhammer short story...and I haven't been able to escape the warhammer universe since...it's been 3 years now

[@jots3293]

Warhammer 40k: "You can't be OP if everybody is OP."

[@martijn31101969]

to be honest all got a major nerf after the war in heaven tho ... yeah its pretty much the stone age now :)

[@HellsRaven4444]

To be fair that's kinda the point of the Necrons. To be even more OP in an already OP universe.

[@SlayerGodOfDeath]

@@HellsRaven4444 they are way spread all over the world ( sleep like a baby ) 🤣 . It is true that almost impossible to beat catan/necron head on and requires many strategies to defeat it , but there are still some way to defeat them 😫 ..... Yea few or less .... Or maybe ..... I donno

[@PCRouter]

Helian so underrated yo dude, who's that girl in your profile pic?

[@sb17899]

@@PCRouter Helian from Girls' Frontline

[@Minotaur-ey2lg]

Clone wars: Oh the horror, hundreds of billions are dead! The Imperium of Man: Those are rookie numbers! Gotta get those numbers up!

[@myduckisonqauck7227]

Yuuzhan vong war mate. Over 300 trillion dead in four years.

[@voxpopuli7910]

MyDuck IsOnQauck a normal day in the imperium as well

[@danielawesome36]

@@voxpopuli7910 I can't believe that this isn't a lie. It's not a fudgin lie... Why is this not a fudging lie?!

[@myduckisonqauck7227]

@@danielawesome36 he is joking, not even the horus heresy had that many casualties

[@shuhanlin1217]

@@myduckisonqauck7227 yeh but the heresy was mainly between astartes and was a lot shorter than the zuuzhan vong invasion

[@canadiangopnik7007]

Literally any other sci fi universe: “But like this army is super strong and-“ 40k: “shhhhhhhh... Tyranids”

[@lennardchurch8483]

The Necrons after the Halo Array is fired: "Where did everyone go? We can't even find the Tyranids." The Necrons after the Forerunners' Guardians show up: "..."

[@ur-didact1991]

@@lennardchurch8483 Get ready to be emped!!

[@ericsmith1517]

@@lennardchurch8483 that would be a great way to kill the gods of chaos

[@MLaak86]

@@ericsmith1517 heavily weaken at any rate... kill, errrrr that’s not assured, which tells you everything about the universe’s power level

[@lennardchurch8483]

@@MLaak86 Pariah in 40k are essentially just organic beings with no biological connection to the Warp, and this trait causes psychic energies to be destroyed in their presence (including the essence of the Chaos demons). And while it takes special conditions among life that came into existence amid Warp energies for a Pariah to be made, having no biological connection to a dimension that doesn't exist in their universe would be universal among Halo's forces.

[@icarusblues7699]

Star Wars's Death Star or Star Killer was a big deal. Pretty sure some people in the Imperium decided not to use that type of weapon against an all powerful enemy because it was 'no fun'

[@guymanhumanperson]

They have exterminatus, thats good enough, why waste effort to blow up the planet itself?

[@Niwona112]

You mean exterminatus??

[@guymanhumanperson]

@@Niwona112 no, the necron star destroying ipad

[@Niwona112]

@@guymanhumanperson he said imperium not necrons

[@calebbarnhouse496]

The death star was a big deal because it completely destroyed a planet, even at it's most powerful extermantus had to happen when the plantery shields were down and even then only could chunk the planet if you used a lot of the most powerful kind of extermantus, which makes it similar to a base delta zero, which is just glossing a planet with a star destroyers main weapons

[@lordscrubugus9897]

Why Warhammer 40k always win you say? *Because its the Emperor's will and anything else is pure heresy.*

[@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847]

Xeelee sequence. Just try throwing your Battle incantations at the god-like race called the Xeelee.

[@AtheistAnarchoCommie]

The EMPEROR protects!

[@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847]

@@elijahmanaghaya6038 While we are going at it, why not include the Grey Goo from the flash game Tasty Planet? The fabric of reality also became Its meal.

[@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847]

@@elijahmanaghaya6038 The most powerful feats the Grey Goo has shown is from Tasty Planet: Back for seconds where it literally devoured Everything but stops at the turtles of time. What about Galactus highest feats without his herald's?

[@TheOctopusPirateShow]

Well, it seems that I have just enough fire to purge this heresy

[@bobertvc7492]

Stormtrooper: *misses* Imperial Guardsmen: *dies anyway*

[@Nyghtking]

Honestly I don't think a stormtroopers blaster would do much to a guardsman, their armor and weapons are only shit by the standards of 40k, to everything else their gear is actually really good.

[@thesocialistsarecoming8565]

@@Nyghtking their general armour is a slab of layered armour and a steel helmet, even modern ceramics are better protection than that even against lasers.

[@LoneWulfHunter]

Imperial Guards Lasgun/flashlight has current modern day MBT devestation power.. its just everything else there is OP

[@thesocialistsarecoming8565]

@@LoneWulfHunter if a lasgun hit like an MBT, you do understand that itd be the boltors being used by regular ground troops right? At that kind of power based on sheer thrust to weight ratios, a Space marine taking a torso shot from a lasgun would go flying several dozen meters like a small car being slammed by a flat nose m1a1 sabot, what your describing is some midling between a lasgun and a lascannon (lascannon is over a 100 megawatt laser, a.k.a. the sheer impact of the laser is a minimum of about 17 modern hand grenades detonating in a single spot similtaneously). Based purely on power consumption when being charged (few hours in fire, a few more in sunlight) a lasgun is in the watt to kilowatt range, or about 1,000 - 10,000 ish times weaker per pulse than a lascannon. The reason things explode when hit by it is that its almost definitely tuned harmonically to water (think of a microwave oven) and thus causes small steam explosions on damp, fleshy, or wet targets. Hence why it rips off unprotected limbs andmoccasionally (not always) detonates on terrain.

[@thesocialistsarecoming8565]

@Chaz Hagen lasers are by yheir very nature a beam of high energy electrons that have matched or exceeded the speed of light and are now travelli jg in a superimposed band of particles that also behaves like a wave. Quantum theory 101, light has mass.

[@stingingcashew2321]

"Librarians can project visions of an enemies worst fears" Darth Vader: Sand...SAND EVERYWHERE!!!!!

[@Kortegard0341]

Vader: I've got sand, in my NOOOOOOOOOOSE

[@justinrolfe9134]

It’s corse and rough and irritating.

[@許進曾]

Librarian is standing on the high ground.

[@Kortegard0341]

@@許進曾 Librarian IS the high ground

[@dchiznit209]

But my high ground!!!

[@Belgarion9989]

As a huge fan of both Star Wars and 40K, I have to make the argument that Darth Vader, yoda, palpatine, and like could all beat the average librarian. People don’t get how overpowered the force can be. That being said, the imperium of man could curbstomp the galactic empire due to their sheer scale.

[@theinfamoust4670]

I disagree. The most powerful Jedi, in terms of the Force, is like a low -mid tier human psycher. A Librarian is a super-human weapon of war who is also a high-level psycher with technological enhancements.

[@dswanick]

Even if you can successfully argue that DV, Yoda, and Palpi can beat the average Librarian, each Space Marine chapter has several librarians. There are around 1,000 chapters. And that doesn't count the Grey Knights. That is why 40k always wins. Not just because every Sci fi trope gets turned up to 11, but it gets buried in an avalanche of ludicrous scaling.

[@luzifershadres]

The Imperium could stomp the Empire in a 1 v1. But the Imperium couldnt stomp the Empire with both galaxys in mind, since that would pull Ressources from the important front lines. The SW galaxy would just be a waist of Ressources for them. Hard to get in, hard to get out and an industrial output far over what the Imperium can do, even if in far worse quality and technological standart. The Empire could waist countless ressources on droids and mid sized ships and thats what they do if they feel cornered things from other galaxys. Worst of it is the Animals that live in the SW galaxy. Just one deepspace animal needs to slip back into the WH galaxy and the Nids got free hyper drive.

[@Technikore-t1o]

​@theinfamoust4670 the most powerful jedi or sith are able to fight gods. Luke quiet literally defeated a god in legends BY HIMSELF.

[@dswanick]

@@Technikore-t1o I would love to see your non-canon L Super-Luke fighting Slannesh...

[@RiaGracewood]

Short answer: The original concept of 40k was born in the 80's, a time where hyper-violence and exageration was big in the media. 40k always wins because it is unapologetically absurd, exagerated to the extreme, and revels in every single moment. Also, Waaaaagh.

[@udednow]

waaaaaagh indeed

[@theemperorofman7777]

Get the flamer. *THE. HEAVY. FLAMER.*

[@xxmatusxx1]

And thats why its sooooo gooooooooooood uhmmmmm

[@NothingXemnas]

My idea of Warhammer 40K is like the quantum physics in particles, but reversed. You test it and looks like a wave, with photons acting like being in two quantum states at the same time (makes no sense), but measure it and bam! It is a particle, with definite quantum state. Imperium of Man, however, is finite and limited. It has a finite power and a finite territory, which does not overlap with the other races and can, maybe, even lose to them. However, measure it and bam! It is suddenly infinite and uncertain, it makes no sense. Where does their power end? Where does their galactic control end? It cannot be infinite because there are other races out there that are even more powerful than they are, but you look at it and the Imperium of Man is *just imesurable.* The number of individual space marines (and only them, not even counting guards and shit) is higher than the total count of quantum particles in the universe. Makes sense? Not at all, it just is. How can the universe even support such insane living power? It can't. It just is. How can a single space marine with barely no magical power be so fucking powerful (like, *infinitely* powerful) yet die so easily (because the enemies are *infinitely* powerful too)? They can't. It just is. It is the joke. *_It just is._*

[@aresthecrazy9335]

The Emperor Of Man hey a fellow Russian badger fan.

[@Tanaka_Kenshin]

In Star Wars Clone War was the largest conflict in millenia... In Warhammer 40k the call it "Tuesday".

[@rosesarered675]

Then doctor who comes in with the time war and makes both franchises look insignificant when it comes to war

[@randomares456]

Imagine mondays

[@Ch4pp13]

@@rosesarered675 not well versed in Doctor Who lore, but please, do tell me the details of the Time War.

[@negative6442]

@@rosesarered675 lol the War in Heaven would have a word with you

[@TheGantus]

😂👍

[@alternatemusicaddict5226]

40k is just the dark souls “YOU DIED” screen indefinitely

[@man0]

Or the Finish Him screen of MK

[@danklegosi6084]

Oh God that's perfect

[@masterzoroark6664]

I want Dark Souls kind of game but in 40K. I fuckin want it

[@soulofcinder518]

Yup

[@BigPuddin]

@@masterzoroark6664 Not happening, buddy. Don't get your hopes up.

[@cullenwear8419]

To add on to the guardsmen population you should also consider the large number of basic civilians who are conscripted should there planet come under attack like we see in during the siege of Terra.

[@HTRPD]

"Long time ago, galaxy far far away"/"Space, the final frontier" vs. *In the grim darkness of the far future, THERE IS ONLY WAR*

[@iglidor]

WH40k is military by its genre. SW and ST are not

[@jasonarthur5487]

Starcraft?!

[@iglidor]

@@jasonarthur5487 Start Trek. Starcraft is ussualy shortened to SC

[@martinstary8442]

Starship Troopers Force in form of scenario Where both start on opposite side of galaxi with 100 starting planets can win, by faster and bether FTL, progresiv technology (can produce same byg power armor), fast colonization. In short is Starship Troopers universe like what been before fall of technology.

[@dylannix4289]

@@iglidor Everyone in the Star Trek universe is a fucking pushover, bunch of heretics

[@doomfox4853]

It's a never-ending cycle of "that's way too stro- oh no, it's dead" - best 40k summary ever!

[@karvenman]

Castigator Titan : it's the most powerful Titan in the history of mankind and all other titans are mere cheap copies of it- oh and a small squad of gray knights killed it

[@panther-nk2hn]

@@karvenman To be fair, the Gray Knights are no slouches by any sense. There's what, 1 chapter of Gray Knights, and they do a good bit of work for fighting all of Chaos corruption within the Imperium. To say nothing of their Chapter Lord, whose name I forget (forgive the heresy), who's been grinding demons in the Warp by himself for the past couple centuries.

[@karvenman]

@@panther-nk2hn yeah but at the same time, if they wanted to kill it, they should have used an actually impressive force and not just a small squad of gray knights. They could have Kaldor Draigo pop in for a short amount of time, or maybe necrons and their doomsday weapons, or the Eldar and whatever big ass weapons they have. All the writers had to do was use an impressive force and the death of the castigator Titan would have been fine

[@CodexQuinn]

​@@panther-nk2hnahhh, good old Kaldor Draigo, Commander of the Ordo Draigo.

[@Sorain1]

@@karvenman Yeah, that's why getting a demon to posses you is a straight downgrade.

[@sambaxter2422]

Storm Trooper; "We have a death star" Imperial Inquisitor; "That's cute"

[@plaski1114]

Orks Moon Ships from War of the Beast < Da boyz coming>

[@solillman2350]

40K: Kills stars.

[@matejperec6495]

You do know that star destroyers can also execute something similar to exterminatus i.e. orbital bombing

[@GKinslayer]

@@matejperec6495 so why was the Death Star such a huge deal - if so many ships could destroy planets? If it was so common, why did Obi-Wan freak out when Alderan was destroyed - if it happened before? The whole reaction to the Death Star disproves your comment. All of that was added later.

[@nearlyepic4831]

@@GKinslayer To be fair, ther eis quite a bit of difference. A fleet of star destroyers can purge the surface of a planet with extended orbital bombardment, but that's somewhat easy to contend with. Your planetary shields can hold back their weapons while your orbital defences fight them off. Even if the star destroyers are in orbit unopposed it'll take them some time to wipe the planet, and the planet itself will still be there after it just lacking any life. The death star can turn a planet into an asteroid field, at range, with little to no warning. No time to evacuate, no options for defence, and very little to return to after the event. That's why it was such a big deal. And just because it could happen, doesn't mean it was common. Even in 40k Exterminatus wasn't common. The ability is there if and when it's needed, but it really is a last resort.

[@fraizwrite80]

I basically got into Warhammer cause of this video. Just bought my first army.

[@robber233]

40k is the answer to the question- "What is the worst/most awesome bad ending humanity could achieve?"

[@detonater7441]

Xeelee sequence

[@tymeier7570]

Bad? That's heresy. The Imperium is good. Glory to the God Emperor

[@emperorkiron3470]

The Foundation would like to speak to you.

[@heocon0541]

I think all tomorrow’s got the worst ending for humanity

[@Kjo770]

​@@heocon0541 Not really, The ending shows a new great empire of mankind and through everything they have gone through, They continued to a better future.

[@pilotmanpaul]

Star Wars: *Billions Dead* Imperium of Man: *PUMP THOSE ROOKIE NUMBERS KID!*

[@Jebu911]

If imperiums high command hears a message "we lost billions" they are just going to shoot the messenger for wasting their time with such trivial info. Even trillions are not worth mentioning

[@danklegosi6084]

@@Jebu911 thats sad,ridiculous,horrible,and awesome at the same time

[@mbot1556]

the BIGGEST war in star wars legends had a death toll of 300+ trillion. that still doesn't compare tho

[@alyrafsanjani6928]

Wow is human population in 40k really that big? real question

[@Jebu911]

@@alyrafsanjani6928 Some planets have a population of 2 trillion people and imperium has over a million planets so the numbers add up pretty big in the end. altho smaller planets have only 100billion people in them

[@thedarkestryder2763]

Well you see, in Warhammer, people ride in tanks just to go up to other tanks, and hit them with a sword.

[@benparsons2878]

This made me lol so much. Its so true.

[@jesseservin4012]

Get closer I want to hit them with my sword.

[@boneythelynx8884]

Yep it's style lol Oh and great comment

[@jesseservin4012]

@@boneythelynx8884 yeah it was a funny meme too. XD

[@AbsoluteRatBastard]

"I can't slice the shit out of you without getting closer."

[@randomguy1642]

Star Wars Universe: Blows up one planet. Entire galaxy: “This is the darkest day in history! War! Chaos! The Jedi must act!” Warhammer 40k Universe: Exterminates 100 planets in an afternoon. Imperium: “Alright, boys, who’s up for tacos? We’ve got a hive fleet at 4.”

[@TheMrBonzz]

To quote Bricky If Space Marine is a super soldier and Grey Knights is super super soldier, then Custodies is the soldiers that call Space Marine cute.

[@thecommentguy9380]

Literally.

[@guyfieri148]

A custodes to a space marine is what a space marine is to a normal man

[@vothbetilia4862]

Why 40k wins: Blue is the luckiest colour.

[@zeehero7280]

Gold plated banana.

[@nedimmrsic4650]

i could almost hear hes voice while reading.. but i had to tune down Slaanesh voice to hear Bricky tho..

[@MalorienL]

All gods in 40k are nothing compared to the powers of Gork and Mork. One being brutally cunning the other being cunningly brutal. If they ever stopped fighting each other the grim dark future of the 41st millennium would end.

[@DonKrieg-382]

they also beat khorne because he interrupted them

[@mr.pickles9791]

@@DonKrieg-382 And Khorne İs still pissed about to it . To this fucking day

[@tranquilthoughts7233]

The four primary chaos gods are constantly at war with each other. They call it "the great game". Gork and Mork come rolling around is for the chaos gods the equivalent of the cat jumping on the table and messing up the entire board.

[@myflatlineconstruct]

All fun until the old ones arrive

[@JustAnotherAwesomeGuy]

Heresy!!

[@GBGSK]

Star Wars: "Sir we lost 10k of men.. we need to retreat!" Emperor of Mankind: "We sacrifice 10k's of men a day.. to keep me alive"

[@ct-782hevy4]

Necrons “just wait a minute they’ll get up any second now”

[@raziel6304]

And not just any men but psykers, which are rare.

[@mrdiamond2157]

I think you mean 10k men per minute

[@BL-bg1fj]

Don’t you mean 10 billion? Lol

[@raziel6304]

@@BL-bg1fj He means 10k psykers killed each day to power up the golden throne.

[@carbonmosa8641]

I feel like an astartes would be a really tough match up for a Jedi. They are super heavy so I would be hard to force push them, they are also familiar with fighting psychers. They shoot bullets which are almost impossible to deflect with a light saber. And they could probably tank a few lightsaber strikes.

[@lennardchurch8483]

Mass/weight isn't really a factor for properly trained Jedi. They can throw around starfighters, which are significantly more massive than Space Marines. And Space Marine Armor is weak to super-heated plasma, meaning the Lightsabers would likely go through it like butter. Bolter rounds are grenades the size of a roll of quarters, and since a lightsaber is liable to cause the grenade to explode on contact rather than be deflected, which could still result in shards injuring the Jedi. The Jedi's best chance is to use their superior speed and agility to avoid getting shot. I'd say for most matchups the Space Marines would have the advantage, though Force Users with darker impulses might be able to use Force Crush to pulverize Space Marines without a fight.

[@carbonmosa8641]

@@lennardchurch8483 all valid points I hadn't thought about.

[@taelorpickel2830]

Technically a Jedi and Sith would be extremely difficult for an Astartes due to the fact that they have similar traits to Psykers and Psykers are notorious to be a pain to deal with.

[@carbonmosa8641]

@@taelorpickel2830 yeah this was before I knew more about warhammer lore and all that. A jedi could probably take an astartes 1v1, depending on who gets the jump on who. Darth Vader vs a Grey Knight could be really interesting.

[@Leon-eq6ei]

3 words: Force crush powerpack

[@marcelob.678]

6:04 "You could take a heavy bolter, which is like a bolter but heavier." -KiriothTV

[@arandomspacemarine91]

Malivamar and able to purge Xenos in more explosions

[@kevinyasutomi9790]

A bolter can punch through most shields in Halo in two or less bullets. Imagine what an Assault Cannon will do.

[@thesocialistsarecoming8565]

@@kevinyasutomi9790 when the prototype mjolnir shield took an inderect blow from a 120mm superheavy antiarmor missile, this shield being several times worse than the gen1 mjolnir standard shields, which in turn are 'exponentially worse' than mjolnir gen2 shielding. That is to say: more like 150 boltors off of KE alone for gen1 mjolnir, maybe 50 or 60 including explosive. And again, gen2 is "exponentially" better shielded than even that.

[@kevinyasutomi9790]

@@thesocialistsarecoming8565 Would you like to see an assault cannon rip that to shreds too? Bigger caliber, 400 round mag. Those shields can't hold out against something with a high rate of fire and massive caliber plus little to no recoil.

[@thesocialistsarecoming8565]

@@kevinyasutomi9790 OK, and? I said the shield was about 150x more durable than what you implied minimum, not that its on par with a heavy vehicles durability. As for how well it'd hold up against an assault cannon, depends on actual caliber and rate of fire. If you can give me the actual calibre and fire rate i can do some basic, rough, translation from terms of .75 at 2x SOS to whatever the assault cannon would do. With fire rate i could then give a rough guess of how long it would last. Also, how long would a SM stand up under an assault cannon out of curiosity? My money's on the shields over the SM tbh.

[@TheQuyman]

Most Scifi fractions were made to tell a story. 40k factions were made to win.

[@npc6817]

And yet no one ever does

[@Tyler_Nguyen]

@@npc6817 if everything is op there is balance

[@boxtupos7718]

@@npc6817 Orks always win, coz if they lose it don't count.

[@npc6817]

@@boxtupos7718 fair enough

[@danklegosi6084]

@@boxtupos7718 lmao

[@DeathAdder47117]

40k quote: "For every planet that falls, ten more are brought into the fold. FEAR US! For WE count the lives of planets NOT men!" - Imperial Inquisitor while ordering an exterminatus

[@KossolaxtheForesworn]

wipe out whole sector because you can.

[@basedeltazero714]

Cept, nowadays, it's the other way around - for every planet brought into the fold, ten more fall. They're losing the Imperium, sacrifice by sacrifice. (And then came 8th edition and the galaxy exploded.)

[@darthsonic4135]

And people wonder why I stopped caring with 5E.

[@RuSosan]

Yeah, ten more are brought into the fold if you count the Rogue Traders mischieviously gallivanting around and fucking shit up in the galactic fringes while making a fortune from which the Imperium at large likely sees about 0,1 percent of. Heehehe. I love Rogue Traders.

[@mcmarkmarkson7115]

The Imperium is so huge, they themselves don't know how huge they are :D

[@engelostermann7203]

Pancreas No Work made a good video about how Halo’s Flood and Forerunners would dominate in 40k.

[@Spectral-Spiff]

It would until the imperium decided to just delete the plants And at that point it would just be the tyrannids without the ftl

[@crusader2410]

40k also has the legend: Sly Marbo. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@tyranroju7347]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@Jeff-bk8vh]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@QalOrt]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@vattmann1387]

LILITHS TITS!

[@krakkenhun77]

Commissar Smith don't forget Kaldor Draigo! (btw, have you seen his sword?)

[@HippoKing.MP3]

Starwars: guys! This is horrible! They made a weapon that CAN KILL PLANETS 40K: did somebody say JOINING CHAOS?! uh oooooh! SMASH IT! *exterminatus the whole damn system*

[@scarocci7333]

Star wars had planet busting capacities way before the Death Star. What made the deathstar special is that it's a enormous battlstation (so you can't really destroy it in direct fight) and that the destruction was absolutely instant, something even 40k don't have.

[@ziavanzaa.r6335]

@@scarocci7333 it's called exterminatus, and it does destroy planets in the blink of an eye

[@scarocci7333]

@@ziavanzaa.r6335 Exterminatus doesn't destroy planets in a blink of an eye. It's either a massive and long bombardment from several ships , or the use of cyclonic torpedoes, who take a very long time (a few hours at least) to reach the core and destroy a planet (and those are very rarely used in comparison with the bombardment). It's nothing in common with the Deathstar that can pop anywhere in the galaxy and instantly destroy the planet with one laser.

[@thunderstormhd4416]

*khorne snaps**galaxy burns btw*

[@scarocci7333]

@@thunderstormhd4416 khorne and the chaos gods can't affect the materium, that's why they use their minions and it's the entire premise of how 40k work. He couldn't even snap away a guardsman and have 0 feats by themselves. Fuck, do you even know the setting you are talking about ? Chaos gods can directly intervene in Age of Sigmar (and it's still limited) but that's all.

[@bloodee4508]

Battleship in Star Wars: suffering from somewhat being touched by a tiny thingy not even in the main parts. Battleship in WH40K: *LITERALLY DESIGNED TO RAM THE ENEMY ON FULL SPEED*

[@JimJamTheAdmin]

And sometimes they actually fly away after ramming because in 40k, ships are made out of rocks, magic concrete, and super metals.

[@Sujad]

@@JimJamTheAdmin The giant, armoured ramming prow at the front certainly doesn't hurt either. Particularly when it has a built in power field.

[@ethandew1768]

Ork ships are the ones known for ramming out of nowhere

[@kraker0279]

Battleship in Star Wars: Literal Small Moon can one shoot planets WH40k: Fliying Cathadrels

[@Sujad]

@@kraker0279 Are you calling the Deathstar a battleship? Wut? It was a war moon at most.

[@ZantTheMan]

Warhammer is to big other sci-fi universe’s biggest of how big it is. The Flood: “You will be food; nothing more.”

[@unintentionally_edgy5867]

Tyranids: back of cousin we claimed this galaxy

[@Wuoffan1]

You know how in Rise of Skywalker, when we find out that Palpatine has made a fleet of Star Destroyers that can each destroy a planet? And remember how everyone thought that that was way over the top and stupid? In the 40k universe, it's not just a reasonable idea, it's the Imperium's main fleet.

[@angeleaterstudios1004]

That's not even the main fleet. That's a small scouting party.

[@jewelgriffon]

This is what got me into 40k

[@themelon_1785]

The problem of that fleet is that it just renders the Death Star as a stupid little ball, the fleet is bullshit in the context of Star wars

[@klausgayer3475]

It is just a regular fleet

[@varnix1006]

Last time I remember, the imperium of man only need 1 ship to destroy a planet, the rest of the ship are just escort fleet.

[@jakeaaron269]

My friend described 40K perfectly "Everything is so overpowered that nothing is overpowered"

[@isaacm0502]

"When everyone's super; no one will be."

[@FookMi69]

Isaac Martin That Incredibles reference is perfect.

[@mr.m7592]

just like a 10x tf2 server

[@arzeey]

Just like DotA

[@yodaspielberg]

That is the perfect description.

[@Blazehunter110]

The 40k universe is like a bunch of kids in a circle going "Well MY faction can..." constantly trying to one up each other. It's great.

[@phantomaviator1318]

one kid says "Your factions are dead!"

[@melvinhotdogman6926]

No actually those are Grown-ups... That are like a Bunch of Kids in the Circle Going “Well MY Faction can...” Contantly trying to one up each other, it’s great

[@tomcruise1492]

Orc's the faction made by the kid who joined last second and had to power scale FAST

[@colinsmith1495]

@@phantomaviator1318 And another one responds, "Well fine, but they're still fighting!" Thus born were the Nekrons.

[@phantomaviator1318]

@@colinsmith1495 everyone gangsta til one kid says "MY FACTION IS GOD"

[@Blakblooded]

Palpatine: "We have a Death Star!" Imperium, Necron, Eldar: "Ahhh, it's that just the cutest little wittle thing."

[@KingBobXVI]

There's one category that Warhammer40k loses in pretty spectacularly in against all the others: Which universe would be the most pleasant to live in?

[@t.va.6611]

IoM's Paradise and Pleasure worlds would want a word with you.

[@juliancalero8012]

And average troop quality tactics wise

[@t.va.6611]

@@juliancalero8012 um, they do have good tactics and strategy. It's just a stereotype that IG is a meatwave. Sometimes they are because, necrons for example don't give a damn about your tactics.

[@ninjaoforthanc8177]

@@t.va.6611 ikr

[@zerochaotics1135]

@@t.va.6611 Necrons:Are most common and least sophisticated small arms can shred your heaviest tank, because fuck you that's why. And a Necron with a sniper is a literal portable halo ring.

[@pyrrhusofepirus8491]

Star Wars: we’ve lost 50,000 in a single day, we’ve got to at the very least, reevaluate our situation 40k: 50,000 in a single day! Somethings going right for us boys!

[@helpmepls7154]

SHOVEL NOISES INTENSIFIES

[@kain7759]

Only 50k in a day coz we are freezing? Give me a heavy flamer! I take care of the icy weather and you kill the others. Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne! cit: Kharn the betrayer . Starting planetary population 6b imperial guards, 10 space marine with a Champion, 2 squads of sisters of battle Starting invading forces 2b warped in demons and 5 squand of Chaos marines leaded by Kharn the betrayer Final results of the day: Only kharn left sitting on an hill made of skulls and w8ing for the next Chapter or exterminatus to return to the warp and claim his bounty xD

[@Error-xd1kg]

throw in 50K more for good measure

[@Mark_n_Travma]

Кубрик Чинков одобряет, товарищ! Цистерны с Крига ещё нарожают! Хахаха!

[@balmundsm]

I think it's more like: "Only 50 thousand casualties? It's awfully low... Be cautious men, enemy is plotting something"

[@diogoteixeira4950]

Rule 1 Of Sci-fi: you can't make ALL the races of your universe being op Warhammer 40K: * exists * Halo: wait, thats illegal Edit: Why the fuck this have 1,8 Likes?

[@gracecalis5421]

Tbf, at one point literally all races in Halo were WH40k levels of ghastly overpowered. Forerunners tilted the goddamn galaxy just to flex.

[@ianlong1437]

@@gracecalis5421 pre flood halo races were far more advanced than anything wh40k. Most races could do what you just mentioned and they were not even the strongest.

[@gracecalis5421]

@@ianlong1437 The Precursors were straight up just gods. All the events of the Halo franchise began because they were basically playing Minecraft in Creative Mode.

[@rosesarered675]

Except all of the 40k races are relatively weak compared to the higher tiers of sci fi factions

[@ivenotwatched1episodeofnar71]

@@rosesarered675 tell that to 40k fanboys lol

[@JamesSchulte]

40k just gets vastly overestimated and any series or factions that do beat the 40k verse either gets heavily criticized and dismissed and/or vastly underestimated. For example, The Xeelee Sequence

[@JuicyT72_]

Too true. Everyone just memes 40k so hard. I like 40k, but a lot of people don't realize that it is kind of the middle of the pack in terms of power level.

[@kingchadzard5980]

Warhammer: *For the Emperor* Star Wars: Emperor Palpatine?? Warhammer: kill the heretic!! Star Wars: wait what?!

[@justinrolfe9134]

And even if it was a Sith Lord, they are dead today. And their planet is destroyed...today. The heretic.

[@kingchadzard5980]

@ im sure lord sidious can conquer multiple planet at same time. Not.

[@leighstevens8605]

Just send in the Black Templar's.

[@leighstevens8605]

@ He is. But, the Emperor in 40K is a demi-god. I mean, any Primarch would rip Palpatine to shreds. Magnus wouldn't even have to think about it.

[@Sirglobor]

Magnus teleported his planet from the hell to the reality.

[@XUnholyMusicianX]

That quote alone explains 40k "That's way too strong-oh no it's dead"

[@morrox5206]

15:11 gosh its so right

[@Rurik_Luci]

It's a beautiful quote that sums it up so perfectly

[@cockypocky590]

FREEDOM IS THE RIGHT OF ALL SENTIENT BEINGS You'd be surprised what not only optimus prime can do in 40k but the average cybertronian big or small Before we talk about Cybertron optimus we must talk about optimus in General transformers has (had its weird)multiversal constants to some degree certain laws that govern transformers lore apply on a multiversal level let's break down a few 1)primus and the matrix:primus as stated is a multiversal lvl primordial god of order good and creation compare this to the parasyte gods of 40k who are a measly galactic(universal at best in case of khorne tseench with his shards gork and mork)now what the matrix does is create a direct link between the Prime possessing It and all previous primes this includes primus himself and can release his energy now that is mostly useless unless used against Unicron the primordial god of chaos basically optimus any point can just pull up to the warp open up the matrix and PURGE the entire warp of chaos bye bye chaos gods 2): cybertronian anatomy:unlike what first impressions would lead you too think Cybertronians aren't (just) robots they are metal based organisms with cells dna(cna)cybertronian anatomy has a funny little property of incorporating materials and technology that means optimus can pull up to a tomb world steal some tech and with a bit of surgery asymilate it into his cna necron tech and materials(necrodermis and Blackstone)alone would make optimus -immune to psychic energy -regenerate -be able too resurrect himself -be able to teleport -be able to phase through matter -be able to mass shift thus giving him FTL both for movement and combat -his natural bio weapons would turn into gauss blasters (and if he got rocket pods from the tau he would have gauss missiles)he could also get the void shield from the Empire (and then his cna will turn it into smth like a gauss shield)and the advanced laser tech from eldar IT GETS WORSE (or better)optimus is a large land vehicle so he can scan other large land vehicles and turn into em like say a doomsday ark winch has the firepower of a supernova And all of that refers to the AVERAGE cybertronian not prime Now if you want more well move in to prime 3)prime power ya see in order to understand Cybertron optimus we have too understand his megatron/Galvatron Cybertron is the third and last series on the Unicron trilogy to put it shortly lets start the timeline with Armada Megatron basically imagine primarch twice as big and completely made out of metal now a Megatron gets powered up by minicons(who all have a part of Unicron's power and becomes Galvatron now in Transformers energon Galvatron feeds in even more of Unicron's power and re becomes Megatron(he died in Armada well kinda)and then he feeds on super energon on Cybertron the divine life blood of primus and re becomes Galvatron then in Cybertron he grafts parts of Unicron's Corps onto himself and re becomes Megatron then he siphons the power of a cyber planet key and becomes Galvatron(and by extension optimus)has is atleast comparable to a daemon Prince one tiny correction if memory serves a planet key alone CST terraform the omegalock is need for that but the matrix can be used to make new autobot life oit of vehicles and a cyber planet key can be used to alter and inhance cybertronian anatomy so optimus can turn himself I to a jet if he wants too basically a fully enhanced Cybertron optimus can pull up to the palace the Emperor and all his primarchs and solo everyone at once not too mention he can just make an army others like him that are loyal to the autobot cause of "freedom is the right of all sentient lifeforms) Also nine of this covers how our boy space robo jesus is a tactician a scholar a politician and a philosopher with a millennia of experience who only ever asked for freedom and peace

[@bestdogshadow383]

Plonks a Warlord titan on the tabletop, only to realise your opponent can take 5500 points worth of anti tank weapons.

[@TsukimuraMidori]

@@cockypocky590 the Mechanicus would tear him and his chrome-covered followers to scrap for being xenos tech-heresy

[@aprettycoolguardsman572]

I think 40k vs starwars can be best summarized like this: You place a wookie and an orc in a room together, the orc now has some cash and a blanket

[@pandagamer-hg5be]

and teeth for his teeth collection

[@NothingXemnas]

All within 30 seconds. Sorry, not realistic enough. 2 seconds.

[@TheLogan-ir6di]

@@pandagamer-hg5be the teeth is the cash lol

[@nope1083]

@@ryanbailey3176 its lord of the rings

[@ammarpratama1207]

@@ryanbailey3176 It's Yo Mama

[@berilsevvalbekret772]

Xeelee , The Culture , Whoverse , Downstreamers , apex Precursors ,Ancient Humanity and Forerunners from Halo and many many more would curbstomb 40k in any timeline so bad it would be EMBARASSING. The thing is most of these are rather old and nicher than mainstream media. I particularly LOVE to see Culture in 40k. Deeply hedonsitic but with such positive vibe to its hedonism with some tech that would look like magic to necrons and AI that are basically gods called the Minds. God the 40k would become a beautiful place to live in couple of millenia. They are among the most noblebright setting with some darkness of course. And have the power to back it up.

[@analt2379]

It would be interesting to see the imperiums reaction to ICoG.

[@taelorpickel2830]

Exactly. People exaggerate how powerful Warhammer is. Ancient Halo can easily contend with it, the Precursors would utterly annihilate any Warhammer faction, INCLUDING the Old Ones and C'tan. The Xeelee Sequence, Whoverse, and literally any faction in Manifold can send a single unit to the Warhammer verse and end it.

[@grant5758]

My favorite comparison; Star Wars: blowing up a planet is a big deal and the center point of most galactic conflict 40k: that’s Tuesday,

[@grant5758]

Also there is the war in heaven: a war so vast it belittles the great crusade and current 40k as much as 40k belittles other sci-fi universes

[@christiandauz3742]

I think that war killed hundreds of quintillions of people

[@RokuroCarisu]

And yet mankind didn't even notice.

[@christiandauz3742]

That was 60 Million years ago Explains why we can't find aliens, because they all died in the War of Heaven!

[@christiandauz3742]

Which is more than the Trillions that died in the Yuuzhan Vong War in Star Wars EU

[@kevinshort3943]

40K is the Australia of SF universes, everything is designed to kill you and what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

[@MR.LMR1996]

The most accurate description of Warhammer 40k I've ever seen. XD

[@C05597641]

Australia is being ravaged by rats, cats, rabbits and frogs. Its animals are fairly poorly evolved because they spent geological ages in isolation. It has a few scary bugs because humans havnt been there for long to eradicated them.

[@kevinshort3943]

When you live in a country where an Adder or a weaver fish is the scariest thing you will come across then:- Great Whites, Salt water crocs, that sea snake, deadly spiders in the loo, giant toads , koalas etc.. are very 40K :) www.australiangeographic.com.au/topics/wildlife/2013/03/australias-dangerous-animals-the-top-30/

[@renna8793]

KZbin red back spider biting snake. Seen it happen a number of times with my own eyes.

[@richardsorgo8600]

This is the universe with a toad that explodes when threatened (killing everything around it including plants and machines).

[@buttermoth8669]

The bolter, basically a Grenade launcher with rocket propelled armor piercing explosive tipped fragmenting bullets the size of a soda can, oh and it’s fully automatic.

[@kyodairiker]

Makes it even crazier that's not even the best guns if 40k

[@polariser5900]

*And that's the standard issued assault rifle for the Adeptes Astartes*

[@jameshill9325]

Yep the fully automatic Rocket Propelled Grenade launcher assault rifle that is a standard issue weapon

[@kyodairiker]

@@jameshill9325 yeah but astartes are pretty rare and the bulk of the imperium are guardsmen with use las weapons which...Are pretty terrible

[@jameshill9325]

@@kyodairiker I know

[@szymonrozanski6938]

Fun fact: Warhammer does in fact not always win.

[@mrfigaloopierre9610]

They somehow manage to lose to Star Trek

[@Dredrick]

​@@mrfigaloopierre9610Yeah. Q exists.

[@SomaCruz500]

⁠@@Dredrick”Q exists” And is essentially a Warp entity. You know how many ways there are to sever and nullify psychic and warp powers and kill a Pysker? Not to mention the fact that the Warp is perfunctorily malignant and would warp the Q into being Daemon Princes and Chaos Champions in service to the True Gods of the Ruinous Powers. Though I could totally see them being Tzeentch aligned regardless.

[@SomaCruz500]

@@mrfigaloopierre9610hilariously wrong opinion, but have it anyway. The Federation would be crippled by the minor forces of Daemon spawn alone. They have no response for the Chaos Gods or the Warp.

[@mrfigaloopierre9610]

@@SomaCruz500 Their weapons are better, their citizens are less vulnerable to chaos corruption, and they have a surprisingly amount of experience with unusual phenomena.

[@ryanmcintyre5639]

In Star Wars it’s a really big deal when a galactic military has the ability to destroy a world completely or render it uninhabitable quickly... in 40k that’s kind of a regular occurrence for most of the factions

[@myduckisonqauck7227]

7 star destroyers can exsterminatus in a day.

[@allenrosales9738]

MyDuck IsOnQauck Planetary Defences can maybe push them back, and it will probably take longer than a day, but yeah, seven Star Destroyers can take out a Planet in Star Wars. Doubt they can take out a Fortress World though.

[@myduckisonqauck7227]

@@allenrosales9738 They could. An important fortress world like cadia from what i know probably didnt even have a void shield for its city. Without a defending navy several star destroyers would definitely destroy a fortress world.

[@polariser5900]

In Star Wars, something like a Death Star is a galactic threat *In Warhammer it's just Tuesday*

[@myduckisonqauck7227]

@@polariser5900 *sigh* Imperial navy: 25,000 imperial star destroyers, over a million and a half smaller warships(based off sector groups), 50+dreadnoughts(around 26 of which are executer classes), a sovereign class(continent/small moon busting laser), the eclipse(continent/small moon) 1000s of other star destroyers/sized ships, sun crusher(star buster, that tanked a death stat laser), 2 death stars, an extra death star prototype with a functional laser, galaxy gun(snipe planets and ships from across the galaxy), the tarken,(planet buster), the conqueror(continent/small moon cracking super laser), metal crystal phase shifters(bypass shields to weaken hull integrity), and dozens of world devastators(can rip apart planets with tractor beam projectors, while tanking shots from capital ships. Can collect materials to upgrade/grow, produce droids, droid fighters, capital ships, and even create new world devastators) It takes seven imperial star destroyers to execute a exsterminatus in under 24 hours. The hapes consortium was a faction in star wars that had a minuscule number of planets compared to that of the empire. Its navy outnumbered its number of planets by 3-7+ to one. This means with just the empire's full memeber world territries they could more than double thier navy or heavily supplement larger capital ships like the Allegiance battlecruiser(2km), or dreadnoughts. Plus there was a plan to include super class star destroyers(8km) in many of the empires sectors. That potentially 100s. There was also the assertor class(15km), bellator(7km), and mandator III(12km). Also even the seperatist alliance had millions of warships(revenge of the sith cross section), and they only held 10,000 to a couple dozen thousand systems.Imperial army: 10s of trillions(Rebellion era campaign guide) Stormtrooper corps: 100s of millions-billions CompForce: 100s of billions(2nd edition sourcebook) Tanks/repulsorcraft: trillions Walkers: 10s of millions The E-11 is the equivalent of a 14.5mm round with enough heat to punch through a lightly armored or unarmered opponent(as seen in multiple canon and legends comics). In a new hope it vaporizes steel bars. Hans blaster can be scaled to a 20mm and chewbaccas bowcaster from canon dishes out 47,000 pounds of force. In legends comics a heavy blaster pistol like hans, was shown to cause a mini grenade like explosion able to knock a human into the air. In the same comic series a few heavy blaster rifles were able to punch through a six inch metal door. In canon a blaster rifle split a stone(some kind of rock) cliff in two. There were also disruptor rifles whicj disintegrated targets. At-At: Has the fire power to destroy a 90 meter transport ship, has shields(battleftont 2 their shields are impenetrable until their taken down) able to tank ground, and speeder based laser cannons(stronger than blaster cannons which are on par or stronger than hans blaster). Their armor had a tensile strength of 60,000- 130,000 psi. By the time palpatine was resurrected in legends at-ats used light turbolasers. Stormtrooper armor: in the 2nd edition sourcebook its stated that slug throwers ineffective against the weakest of modern armor(unless you have a 20mm, or enough blunt force trauma), and in tatooine ghost hypersonic rounds from tusken raiders bounced off stormtrooper armor. The empire had 3 adeptus astartes equivalents(SD9 battle droid, Dark troopers mark 2, and 3). Technically 5 but hazard, and zero g stormtroopers lack firepower. As well 6 adeptus sororitas equivalents in glory class dark troopers, juggernaut combat suit, oppressor-9, purge troopers(dark droid), phase 0 dark trooper, and oppressor-7 dark troopers. The republic had blaze tropers, and the droid army had the FLTCH battle droid. The real galactic threats were Abeloth, Vitiate, and the crimson forever virus.

[@JustaGuy_Gaming]

Honestly it's no contest. Other Sci-fi shows do war as a hobby, a little side part of a plot. 40k there is nothing but War, it's daily life. It's also War on a galactic Scale. To Star Wars the Death star was a big thing, it could blow up Planets! To 40k it's Tuesday.

[@alexrodriguez7389]

Even then 40K is a joke to some insane factions like the xeelee and downstreamers.Humans have quite a bit of imagination.

[@vexile12]

Tuesday morning before 9 am

[@penjaminthestrange4427]

more like 5PM

[@nidalflame8894]

Sometimes it's not even Tuesday, it's just a footnote.

[@baron5736]

It wasn't a big thing. Death Star was small in scale compared to other super weapons, so I don't really know what you mean.

[@penguin4863]

40k is like two kids playing a war on the playground "My army is made of 8ft tall super soldiers with automatic rpgs" "Well mine use mechanics with railgun that can destroy your guy." "Well my army has massive robots the size of skyscrapers" "Well mine has a giant amalgamation of scrap metal and self confidence called orkstompa" Just constant oh but my armys has ____ to 1 up eachother

[@piggynatorcool668]

Then you start to get into infinites and times i finities

[@ancientwizard3055]

disagree wh40 isn't about powerlevels. wh40k = 100% about suffer. from the start one of the most iconic character of wh40k I would say close to every1 it is first character about whomwe get information is literaly humans god Emperor and he is half dead it is basic info etc. every1 in wh40k suffer whole time. even necron who are overpowered who claim their own gods as a slaves even they are suffer nonstop.

[@picklesandnori]

More dakka.

[@Buzzy_Bland]

“Well mine is just a bunch of dudes with laser guns, tanks and artillery.” Wait.

[@DeadGamesSociety]

best and most accurate reply, hands down.

[@DarkMaster2522]

Xeelee sequence : “hold my child soldier”

[@Tracktor_makkraga]

If we take the Chaos gods, even Xeelee won't stand a chance.

[@DarkMaster2522]

@@Tracktor_makkragai mean chaos draws power from emotions and worship of their cultists if there are no cultists power of chaos drops significantly

[@Tracktor_makkraga]

​@@DarkMaster2522From the book "the dark Imperium" we know that the gods of chaos are self-sufficient, although faith makes them stronger. but it is impossible to completely deprive them of faith, since they feed on the entire multiverse

[@stringstorm]

Even how 40k does FTL is absolutely mental. Whereas all the other sci fi stuff has some reasonable 'scientific' way of explaining warping from one point to another, 40k literally goes through space hell. There's also one thing I like about the orks that you don't see anywhere else. I read somewhere that a guardsman managed to steal an ork's gun. When he tried to pull the trigger, it wouldn't fire. When the ork got his gun back, the gun started shooting again. You can give an ork a metal pipe and tell it that its a gun and if he believes its a gun, that pipe will start shooting out bullets.

[@internetzenmaster8952]

Let's put it this way: if you sick even the mildest Ork WAAAGH!!! on any other universe (unless it's like Forerunner-era Halo, then you need a proppa WAAAGH!!!) is going to be a bad time for anyone not an Ork. Each one of those reality-warping fuckers generate their own 'WAAAGH!!! field', meaning they're generating their own 'Warp' wherever they go *simply by existing.* The 40k universe is pretty much the only place I can think of where Orks aren't 'OP plz nerf'-tier compared to everything else.

[@refurbishedtechpriest9076]

When you really think about stuff like that, it makes WH40k seem all that more bat-shit crazy and insanely awesome at the same time.

[@IronWarhorsesFun]

OUR IP CAN'T REPEL OP OF THAT MAGNITUDE!

[@jeffwillsea6757]

Internet Zen Master But it also works the other way around, you can hold a flashlight and if the Orks believe it to be a gun, perhaps a lasgun, it will kill them. Humans can also tap into that WAAGH energy if they spend enough time around orks. This is particularly shown by a group of gardsmen that they have hunted Orks on their planet of centuries. The WAAGH field is stronger the more orks there are. Many of their weapons work based on the belief that they will work. What's worse is that different colors have different effects on things due to WAGH energy. Yellow= Bigger boom. Red=Faster. Green=better hidin. Ect. You also have to deal with the fact that if an Ork makes it to your planet, you almost have to glass the planet to prevent more orks. See, when an Ork dies it releases spores that GROW MORE ORKS. Many orks have a natural affinity for technology. Ect. The orks are descendants of the Morks which were MADE by the Old ones to fight the war in heaven. They were designed to fight a war where they are outmatched and win! They won't grow tired of combat, in fact, its the opposite. They revel in it. There are accounts of at least on two seperate occasions a ork WAGH making it to the Sol system and nearly destroying Holy Terra itself! The first time the Emperor himself had to step in to stop it. The second one was very interesting lore wise, for you see, they didnt have a single Warboss but an oligarchy of 16 warbosses working together so that their wagh would never fall. It took a primearch DIEING just to kill ONE of the 16 warbosses. They had mobile bases the size of moons that could teleport across the galaxy and end worlds. They had hundreds of those things and parked one above Terra for awhile. In the end, the Orks decided that the Imperium wasn't as fun to fight as something they discovered outside the 40k galaxy itself! So they just up and left! That's the power of the orks for you. P. s. Very rarely does any of them fall to Chaos. Turns out their WAGH energy actually dampens the powers of kaos depending on who you talk to. There are also Ork psykers though those are few and far between and shunned by Orks. XD

[@CorvusCorone68]

i heard the Imperium took apart an Ork vehicle once, the "engine" was a box with the word engine written on it, possibly misspelled

[@jediarchives7826]

If a librarian summoned Darth Vader's worst fear, he would see an endless stream of sand

[@KossolaxtheForesworn]

space marines make sand castles while darth vader hyperventilates.

[@argetlam05]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

[@y.kazayaki3681]

Rogal Dorn making a sand Castle and Saying YESSSSS

[@AximandTheCursed]

*sand obtains high ground!*

[@PainHarbinger]

I was actually about to comment that. God dammit. XD

[@Helsbraun]

Warhammer is a universe where they created war, then built the universe around war. Other sci-fi created universes that happened to go to war.

[@theblackbaron4119]

Also they aren't afraid to depict different races that just aren't really the bad guys, but by no stretch of the imagination the good guys ether. Ever race has their own reason to do what they do and no one is actually the good guy ^^

[@jgzzv1697]

The Black Baron just like real life :v

[@thesocialistsarecoming8565]

Wh40k: created around Waaa--- a tabletop game. Other Universes: happen to go to war in a way that makes sense given technology in the universe.

[@nobleman9393]

@@theblackbaron4119 Every Sci-Fi / Fantasy Universe does the same thing.

[@godqueenbidoof]

If the standard Lasgun from 40k were brought to real life it'd be an anti-tank weapon

[@nonya1366]

Now that's a bold proclamation. The lasgun is well known for it's insane lack of penetration on it's lowest setting. The next higher setting has, some. But it's not going to penetrate, modern day equivalent tank armor. At maximum, the point where the gun's going to explode if you fire enough, it could theoretically be used to harass light vehicles. Humvees, jeeps, the ilk. It'd be more effective against humanoid targets, modern body armor doesn't really stand up to energy based weapons funnily enough. But lasguns have also been known to be stopped by sufficient quantity of human Meat before. Granted the heat ray las gun will perform quite well against said modern infantry. Easy three round burst where one shot could probably down a soldier if it's a good hit, two hits at most as it overheats the metal plates underneath and it becomes more of a problem for the soldier in question. But Stub guns- advanced versions of modern arms, have been effective against normal Guardsmen. Planets have risen up and thrown off garrison forces before. They just meet... Problems from things greater than a garrison force afterwords.

[@godqueenbidoof]

you're right, I was repeating something I heard a couple of years ago without thinking about it and now that I have well I was wrong@@nonya1366

[@taelorpickel2830]

No it wouldn't, a bolter wouldn't even be able to penetrate modern tank armor.

[@somedude-l2g]

@@taelorpickel2830 The standard Bolt is set to .75 calibre, is rocket and powder propelled, has an internal explosive component and can be fired in full auto they definitely can if you dump half a magazine's worth of Bolts

[@Leon-eq6ei]

Of course modern armor isnt effective against energy weapons. Because they cannot exist. The power needed for a laser to do any meaningfull damage (Atleast enough to be worth using it over a gun) is so high that the laser has to ignite the atmosphere. Therefore the beam cant travel and instantly explode the laser. Therefore you could argue that modern armor is 100% penetration safe against lasers.

[@jordananderson2728]

They always win, because *THE EMPEROR PROTECTS*

[@patrickb8276]

Say that to the thousands sons

[@gabrielangelos2821]

@@patrickb8276 I believe they are heretics

[@goodname6807]

Gabriel Angelos why protect heretics

[@VVopal]

I was about to post this but you beat me by 4 months

[@JustAJosuke]

The lasguns and bolters also help.

[@chorleycake7942]

40K always wins because the Emperor protects. Also there is no stun setting on a Bolter.

[@frankenwaifu8092]

Unless you smack that thing unto a poor tau's skull But it would give him a concussion instead of stunning him

[@BeatmasterAC]

@@frankenwaifu8092 Tau: "yeah we suck at Melee. Too bad tho that you never get that near."

[@1Blastarr]

Ha Ha Funny!

[@Khornecussion]

@@BeatmasterAC " Too bad you'll never get close enough. " Me: " STEEL REHN! YES! *WE'LL SEND MORE.* "

[@randomlygeneratedname]

@@BeatmasterAC we have more men then you have ammunition, fix bayonets

[@glazredfield9489]

Space Marine gets an arm and heart blown out: "Tis but a flesh wound"

[@kulot-ki1tu]

Every space marine is basically the dark knight in monthy pythons holy grail

[@TheGosgosh]

@@kulot-ki1tu with the difference, that a space marine with 0 limbs can still kill you by biting off one of your limbs or spit acid into your face (Dorn's kids not counting for the last one tho)

[@ladywaffle2210]

Good thing they have two hearts and only need one arm to fire a bolter

[@BasedMilitarist6624]

They gets modified inside a Dreadnought.

[@spethmanjones2997]

arab guy speaks arab this is my favorite new comparison for spess mahrens, thanks so much :D

[@flintan4885]

There are a lot of scince fiction universes that would absolutely destroy 40k,even Halo factions.

[@Brwigames]

The Covenant could survive it, The Flood could consume it The Forerunners would thrive and dominate. The precursors would precursor all over rhe place.

[@lukedufaur5368]

In short, it's because 40k was balanced via arms race: Imperium: "we have space marines that can fight after losing limbs and survive anything short of concerted anti-tank weaponry" Eldar: "yeah well we have advanced precursor tech that lets us teleport behind you with impossibly sharp swords or mow you down with energy rounds from a distance" Imperium: "ok now we have big mechs controlled by corpses with flamethrowers and miniguns and giant battle claws and laser cannons that can stomp through dozens of your soldiers" Orkz: "yeh well we'z got a zoggin' big army cuz we'z be multiplyin frum sporz in da billyuns! oo carez bout yer dozens yeh smash!?" Eldar: "our race has powerful psykers that can decimate your forces with unnatural power" Imperium: "we have librarians that can do the same and each of our hundreds of thousands of planets conscripts tens of millions of guardsmen, you are no match" Chaos: "we use psychic power as a beacon to locate you and feed from the suffering caused by the deaths of billions of your cannon fodder, our troops are created from the collective fears and emotions of all sentient races, our greater daemons are fragments of our gods" Imperium: "our primarchs are created of our god too and wear armour that is almost indestructible; they are so powerful they can only be killed by eachother. you are no match for our power. and we have huge mechs the size of skyscrapers" Orkz: "yeh well we'z got gubbins loik dat too!" Chaos: "your primarchs cannot survive our temptation and will come to our side, even these demigodlike beings will serve us as puppets" Necrons: "we are space terminators who have been hibernating for millions of years. we are survivors of a galactic conflict orders of magnitude greater than the current one, waging war against an entire race of beings as strong as your emperor" 'Nids: *NOM* Continue ad nauseam.

[@setakh]

Haha thats too accurate xD

[@enricopaolocoronado2511]

I love how the only thing the Nids have to contribute to the argument is NOM

[@bleflar9183]

I laughed at the *NOM* way more than i should.

[@pandagamer-hg5be]

Tau: "I have some cool mech-" Everyone: "SHUT IT WEEB!!" Tau: **cries*

[@garrickberry3175]

Tyranids: (In flemy voice) Feeed.

[@andrewmcnally5013]

The Imperial Army Imperial Guard Astra Militarum *THE WALL OF GUNS*

[@Daimon-X]

Adeptus Titanicus Adeptus Astartes Adeptus Custodes Adepta Sororitas INQUISITION...

[@andrewmcnally5013]

ivan ivanovitch ivanovsky and Khorne goes straight for the Klingons. An interesting fight, although HEAVILY one-sided, would be the Borg Collective vs. the Necrons

[@andrewmcnally5013]

ivan ivanovitch ivanovsky erm, the group who shattered and enslaved their gods. Read the title of the video again......

[@andrewmcnally5013]

ivan ivanovitch ivanovsky all good. I didn't even get to the part where their BASIC TROOP WEAPON literally separated the molecular bonds of the target, quite literally de-atomising them.

[@andrewmcnally5013]

D Garza a better question is "Are the Borg ever going to get a hold of Gauss weaponry?" OR "If they get their hands on Gauss weaponry, how quicky will the Deathmarks be deployed?"

[@styww2w461]

“Why don’t we take all them at there peak” yeah in 30k there’s mention of a gun firing black holes... good luck with that

[@voidcastfam]

Hmm Jedi that has potential to learn more and not warriors to begin with.Sith who are constantly learning. At their prime. 40k: A company of Space Wizards idk about training a stuff but they are combat ready. Also those aren't laser they are firing,other that Lasguns/Rifles,those are tank shells they are firing from those bolters. Deflect that.

[@anotherinternetperson8495]

Destiny 2 Gravaton Lance has that Fun to laugh at

[@darkelement-b8k]

@@pyerack the average space marine lives for 1000 years. They've got dreadnaughts kicking around for over 10000 years. Hell, there are probably some thunder warriors still alive somewhere, and they were just the prototypes!

[@zhangeldy4097]

Xeelee night fighter - "am I a joke to you?"

[@Barabel22]

Zhangeldy I admit the Xeelee, or the timelords are one of the few sci-fi civilizations that could best the IoM or 40k in general.

[@Gormathius]

"That's way too stro- oh wait it's dead." That's the most perfect summary of 40k I've ever heard.

[@vincentrees4970]

What about: WAAAAAAAAAGH!!!

[@AZ240992]

Vincent Rees A typical Friday night, honestly.

[@JuanLorenzoLDeOca]

Halo: we got spartans Star wars: we got death troopers Warhammer 40k: we got new guys called Primari- Everyone else: *DON'T YOU SAY IT*

[@draco107]

Mist_Unit AKA Dut Phoenix the flood. Why use Spartans? Bring back the chaos gods, all the ctan, wake up that fucker on mars and watch as the flood and the forerunners see them die.

[@EarFarce4]

@@draco107 Yeah no.Tyrannids EAT flood for breakfast and then mutate and become worse.Daddy Nurgle is happy and sad at the same time. Forerunners get obliterated by any one resurgent c'tan.Then everyone figures out/finds old tech to kill the new 'nids and everyone goes back to killing each other as usual. Not to mention one proper warp storm can destroy forerunner tech and make it turn on their masters which is what originally happened to humans in 40k.

[@deltaplaysgames6097]

@@EarFarce4 but when they eat flood they become flood

[@LobokaiSolki]

Deltaplaysgames so no. Nurgle or Khorne or Necrons or Nids would just lol over the Flood. They wouldn’t even find them exceptionally note worthy

[@deltaplaysgames6097]

@@LobokaiSolki I don't even think it's possible for them to fight eachother

[@darthtator1221]

Darth Vader: There is no match for the dark side of the force Space Marine: Bold words for someone in assault cannon range

[@zentralratderfliesentischb660]

We call you a weak psyker.Let me show you a big golden guy for a sec *sharps sacrifice knife*

[@joshuacadoret101]

Darthtator 12 in Star Wars the best gun against a light saber user is a normal gun, so bolsters would be the best weapon against a light saber.

[@T3RR4212]

Fairly sure darth vader is just a psyker about as strong as an exalted sorcerer of the thousand sons. A skilled but ultimately small player in the grand scheme of things. Palpatine might be as strong and skilled as Ahriman

[@caesarvalorvmsheevpalpatin8755]

I wonder how an anakin that reached his full potential, that being god-like, would fair in 40k

[@thorveim1174]

I could see Jedis stopping projectiles Matrix-style... but they can be overwhelmed. Overall, powerful psykers exist in Warhammer 40.000 that can achieve pretty much the same feats, and they STILL GET KILLED on a regular basis. And the Force is really the ONLY advantage they would get against a Space Marine, which are faster, with centuries of uninterrupted combat experience against everything 40k has to offer, WAY stronger and basically immune to pain. Also, I wounder if the Shadow in the Warp caused by Tyranids would cut a Jedi's connexion to the Force too...

[@h.g.542]

have you considered that the warhammer universe is at a 1:100 scale to the other universes ? I can hardly imagine a 1 inch space marine winning against even a child of normal scale...

[@akatsukisempai422]

Video: " *Why does warhammer 40k always win?* " Me: " *Because to think otherwise is heresy and is punishable by death* "

[@dragonhunter2343]

This is a bolter. Your argument is invalid.

[@zikrihelmiamminuddin8240]

DEATH TO HERETICS!!!!!!!

[@dylannix4289]

“I will convince you of my point of view using factual arguments-“ “and this heavy Bolter”

[@anatoldenevers237]

@@zikrihelmiamminuddin8240 pretty sure comic book universes have characters who would erase the God Emperor with a thought, and the entire galaxy. Comics are so broken it’s kinda absurd

[@lordcommissar7813]

@@anatoldenevers237 idk I get why your think that but the emperor can literally erase you from existence with a beam lol

[@rejectedopinions]

The problem with trying to compare 40k to any other universe is that every other universe gives you hard numbers to reference, whereas 40k just says "ours is bigger" and since that's just what the lore says, it's true.

[@vothbetilia4862]

What about Xeelee?

[@jesusarrua740]

Xeelee culture and doctor who do not agree.

[@CaptainPilipinas]

other [Flowers], etc etc. of course the problematic ones would be from chaos' to their c'tna, old ones, etc in wh40k's more supernatural-likd side of that universe's strength level.

[@vothbetilia4862]

@@jesusarrua740 Culture won't stand a chance, they're downfall would simply be by Chaos since they'll just taint every single super A.I against them. As for Doctor that's a mix.

[@jesusarrua740]

@@vothbetilia4862 culture: 1. They're really not psykers, and you can look at how the tau and their ai aren't all instantly corrupted 2. Besides, rarely does anyone fall that quickly, even if they're "hedonistic" ; otherwise the IOM would have collapsed long ago due to basically all its nobles becoming corrupted. Even untrained PSYKERS don't usually fall in 2 weeks 3. also, don't forget that we see a culture _drone_ (i.e. bot smaller than a shoe-box) that had multiple levels of mind (from hyperspace over biological down to nanomechanic), and could isolate compromised levels of sentience and operate on fallback. And anything _big_ is operated by multiple minds that can monitor each other in picoseconds.

[@jaredlebin4583]

Star Wars : "we have finally built the ultimate weapon; The Death Star, which can obliterate planets." 40k: *laughs in Exterminatus*

[@hippiehippo9030]

Inquisiter: Tuesday, already?

[@Outside85]

Abbadon would like to know your location.

[@matejperec6495]

You know that you can also kill planets in star wars with a single star destroyer by bombing

[@Outside85]

@@matejperec6495 Isn't that more akin to what Exterminatus usually is and results in killing everything on the planet, but still leaving a planet behind?

[@warbossbonesmasha3751]

*in the distance* FUCKING HERETICS

[@stuartworthington8061]

Insanely, there is a second brain! Not quite, but near enough. One of the changes let’s them split their brain in half and threat the two halves as separate organs, allowing them to let one side sleep while the other keeps fighting. In theory this could also allow them to keep going if a bullet went through just one side?

[@darrinscott6612]

"In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war." That should immediately tell anyone observing that a science fiction universe where life is synonymous with war, their ability to wage war is going to be beyond other universes.

[@mcmarkmarkson7115]

Waging war is what gentlemen in 40k do. Constant mass genocide and torture is the norm.

[@doppelrutsch9540]

I disagree. WH40k is still too human-centered and afraid to embrace scale. Most importantly, it's barely one galaxy. What about setting in which whole galaxies can be casulties in a war? Or where even whole superclusters of galaxies are used as weapons themselves? WH40k is a bug on the windshield for things like Doctor Who or the Xeelee.

[@quintoncraig9299]

Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann? Entire universes are- well were, subject to total annihilation on a daily biases, and humans were pretty high rank in that universe(to bad they don't talk about anything beyond the Lagann Unit's short part of the story/ not even half of it's story either, just Simon's portion.)

[@christiandauz3742]

Chaos would corrupt TTGL, starting with Simon

[@telepathickitten4653]

Try telling that to a Trekkie.

[@NumbingDisasterAnon]

Warhammer 40k always wins because, from the ground up, it's built on this philosophy: "Nothing is OP, because literally everything is OP...therefore the galaxy is a terrible place to live." It's meant to be a universe where everything is on the verge of dying and needs to compensate by pushing their limits to the point that limits no longer exist. I mean, even in the fiction there's a whole realm where if a person believes hard enough, or has enough people to believe, they can make a deity or a powerful force that then acts upon the material world. You can literally belief you are invincible, therefore you will be invincible. It's a hellscape gothic space existential and body horror...everything is possible there

[@KossolaxtheForesworn]

there was a really OP big daddy who created other OP big daddies and gave them thousands of little less OP daddies to control. - the great crusade.

[@jayeisenhardt1337]

Still seem kinda small when it's only a galaxy, and ya got sci-fi stuff with guys making tech that can and sometimes does accidentally destroys a universe full of galaxies.

[@HolyknightVader999]

The Ones from Star Wars, the Halos from Halo, and the many "gods" in comic book/superhero stories can kill the 40K factions quite easily.

[@darkblood626]

There's Lovecraft, in which all of reality is simply the dream of the blind idiot god Azatoth, and beings destroy entire galaxies without even noticing.

[@PugilistCactus]

NumbingDisasterAnon and this is why it should never be compared to any other science fiction. Too much room for massive plot holes.

[@GizmoDuck_1860]

Astartes armour is impervious to anything... except author interpretation. "Look out, brother, he has an auto pistol!" "Hahaha... silly, Sparticus, that silly thing won't harm me in my armour. " "But, brother, he's a plot character!"

[@AbsoluteRatBastard]

"Brother.. I don't feel too good..."

[@sturmeceet7158]

"Did i stutter sparticus?"

[@dantheman4876]

"Brother ... why couldn't I ... be a named character?"

[@KriegCommisar]

Astartes armor is so strong that plants melt it apart near instantly

[@youraverageegg3930]

"OH SHIT"

[@bitter2day]

You’re telling me storm troopers would get mauled by space marines? A shocker.

[@ludwigvxnhentai3299]

40k is basically if steroids could inject steroids

[@DerDoctor69]

LudwigVxn Hentai that themselves have already injected steroids

[@kawaiiempoleon8721]

@@DerDoctor69 oh god

[@Yes-kb5yv]

@@DerDoctor69 Space Marine: If a body builder injected steriods two times, ate bogie2899 for breakfast, and weight lifted an elephant after.

[@lancelot9312]

@@Yes-kb5yv that decided to grow a second heart as well ar a third lung with multiple questionable organs

[@bluesunschurch8412]

No 40k is if captain America was given steroids and then give hulks strength and size as well as hulk buster armor now just imagine that then multiply 56 billion.