Trail Tech Vapor Gauge : Part 3 : Settings And Accuracy Adjustments

[@VisionsofPyramids]

Every time I find myself doing a swap I end up watching this video to reconfigure the trail tech 😅 thank you for such a handy video

[@michaelhafke4742]

Thanks so much for posting this video! I purchased a Trail Tech Vapor for my Honda CRF 450X and everything went smooth with the installation. When I decided to make my bike a SuperMoto, the smaller tires threw off my speedometer reading. After entering the tire information on the calculator on your website, I'm back on track. Thanks a lot!

[@49ccscoot]

Glad to help!

[@maxdesrosier]

I have a crf 450x as well . The vapor worked great with my dirt tires but recently just swapped over to supermoto tires . I entered the info correctly and attached the black square thing to the rotor . But still no mph readings .. any ideas ? Thanks

[@marquesbeck3026]

How do I turn off the gauge once it is on

[@accorsistudios]

@@maxdesrosier Looking for solutions to the same problem. SM tires not picking up speedo sensor, trying like hell to problem solve it.

[@kruseamplification4242]

Thank you SO much for your effort and great public service Sir !

[@1greghawk]

Just Purchased a Trail Tech Vapor for my DR 650. This video is brilliant for help with the setup. Thank you!

[@49ccscoot]

Glad it helped. Ride safe.

[@maxlarenas]

Between this siries of videos and the website is pure gold. very nice work I've used plenty of times for correcting my Trailtech on my KLR 650

[@KyleAndersonSkates]

This is so helpful and straight forward. Cesar from Small Engine Velocity sent me!

[@bannor_murphy369]

Many thanks simple to follow no time wasteing :)) Gj (i just used a cloth tape around tyre for dia) lol WR250f front tyre 80/100 21= 2220mm

[@silvaridebikes]

Very helpful video my friend, I was with some troubles to calibrate my trail tech, specially the speed, and this video helps a lot!!! Thank you very much keep up with this good jobs!

[@rsupremexx3971]

Yo thanks a lot man I really thought something was wrong with my rpm but now it’s all good !

[@49ccscoot]

Glad you figured it out!

[@jeffkrummert53]

Best video I have found. Thank you very much!

[@coyote102076]

Nicely done. I have bought 3 Vapors over the last 2 years for various projects. My current one mounted on my 1981 Honda GL500 refuses to read accurate RPM. I have contacted Trail Tech once and the issue still persists. But it is fixable, I just need time to mess with it. Very good video series dude. One of the best out there for this unit & scooters. :-)

[@49ccscoot]

Thank you. Hope you get your tach straightened out.

[@luisandrade1568]

Great video, I also got a Tech Vapor for a DR 650 an found your video very detailed. Good Job

[@lenninmichael]

Thanks so much for the video, finally I set up my Vapor tail tech in my Trx 250r

[@Pistons4life]

Brilliant, thankyou for this !

[@stormrussell7535]

Thanks for the video! Helped alot. And your website 🤙🙏

[@nastynatesscooters9896]

Great series

[@iconiumbuilders7820]

Excellent! Thank you

[@ipaddy]

Another cracking video I have been following your 50cc four stroke tune up videos and really enjoying them what scooter engine is this video showing it seems to get to 50mph fairly easy thanks again for all your work

[@49ccscoot]

This is a Chinese Minarelli clone (1E40QMB) two-stroke that has been bored and stroked to around 100cc.

[@Lord_Verminaard]

Great stuff, thank you for sharing this.

[@49ccscoot]

Thank you!

[@1greghawk]

Got my Vapor installed on my dr 650 very happy with it What number do you set engine temperature light warning to and danger warning temperature to?

[@49ccscoot]

I tend to go by experience with an engine or engine platform to decide where I want to set lights. No xp with the DR650. I'd say start with them set high, like 350-400F and watch your temps and see where they actually are to decide when you want to be alerted. If set too low, the lights are kind of annoying IMO, so you only want them to come on when it legitimately is a temp that you should be aware of.

[@1greghawk]

@@49ccscoot great thanks for the info

[@MR.Vintage2stroke]

Does a 2 stroke have that feature with the pulse changing at different rpm

[@49ccscoot]

It would depend on the bike I'm sure, but most are going to be a consistent spark amount.

[@derekp13]

Awesome!!!!

[@carloscastillom.866]

Gracias por el video, muy util. creo que me comprare uno para mi ducati 998.

[@Pepnug]

90GTVert what temperature should I set as a warning? I don't know much about cht on 2t scoots. Where is the danger point in temp for these 2t scoots. Thank you in advance.

[@49ccscoot]

I would see where it runs first, because it doesn't seem like all CHT setups will read the same temp.

[@TheAdgman]

Bro hey its posible to keep The Back light on ?? U can help me with that Question please

[@49ccscoot]

The back light will stay on if it is getting RPM readings and is connected to a power source.

[@traystunna]

Question. My zuma has an mvt installed on it and I’m seeing revs as high as 19999. I think My timing is either advanced too mich or something is wrong because that seems wayyy to high.

[@49ccscoot]

It's not revving to basically 20,000RPM. My guess is that the tach is set wrong for the MVT. The MVT needs a tach setting of 2 PPR (pulses per revolution) while most 2Ts use 1 PPR. So if you have it set at 1PPR, it's trying to double RPM and you should even notice that it idles way high at say 4000-6000RPM according to the tach.

[@simtekxl]

Can someone tell me what the correct temperature setting should be for homda ruckus for the vapor tia

[@skno1944]

Don't you have a video of you cutting open a new Tao Tao exhaust and welding it back together? I can't find it

[@49ccscoot]

I've never cut open a TaoTao exhaust. I've only modified the mufflers on a 2T and a 150. 49ccscoot.proboards.com/thread/372/modding-stock-muffler 49ccscoot.proboards.com/thread/375/homemade-modified-mufflers-videos

[@bricehale6593]

How do I get the light to stay on so I can see how fast I'm going at night if I hit the button on the right the light will come on for about 5 sec

[@49ccscoot]

It has to be wired to a power source. If it is left to rely on the battery in the gauge, it will not stay on. It automatically comes on when it senses engine RPM if wired to the vehicle's battery and then shuts off after no signal is sensed for some amount of time. I have never used it with just stator output, but I believe the lighting would switch on and off when stator power is present.

[@nastynatesscooters9896]

Can you ground 2 different digital gauges on the same bolt

[@49ccscoot]

It's fine to ground multiple gauges to one point, as long as it's a good ground.

[@nastynatesscooters9896]

For some reason I keep hearing a sparking noise coming from the front of the bike.. maybe not tho

[@49ccscoot]

@@nastynatesscooters9896 If you're hearing something arcing, you've got a big problem with the wiring and it would also likely be visible in dark settings. Sure it's not spark knock or some mechanical rattle?

[@nastynatesscooters9896]

I don’t hear it at idle

[@gageconrad6087]

I just got a vapor for my KTM supermoto, I have got the speed and all set up nicely. But I have noticed when I reach speeds above 50 (Not exactly, just around there) sometimes it will turn off and say I am going 0.0 MPH, any ideas?

[@49ccscoot]

Not sure. Most obvious check would be to make sure the sensor and magnet distance. I would contact Trail Tech about that. They usually reply in a reasonable time.

[@gageconrad6087]

90GTVert Okay, I'll check that and contact them if needed. Thank you!

[@49ccscoot]

Good luck. If you wanna post what they tell you here, cool. I'm interested to know what it is.

[@gageconrad6087]

So, all I ended up doing was switching the magnet around, that did the trick for me. I must have put it on backwards or maybe the other side just was closer or something. Either way, it's fixed so that's all that matters :) Thanks again for your help though.

[@49ccscoot]

Glad you got it figured out. Thanks for the update.

[@anthonyasin4402]

Hello, i have buy one not new but i can't modify the wheel ? Do you know why ?

[@49ccscoot]

You will probably need to contact TrailTech directly if you can't change the wheel size as shown in the vid.

[@justdoit2204]

I have the same problem. Did u figured it out?

[@maddmavic]

Doesn't the vapor have a ride time recorder ? How do I set this up

[@49ccscoot]

It will tell you ride time. It's in the same area as the max speed, max RPM, odometer, etc... Off the top of my head I don't recall, but after you go to that by hitting Mode, then it's the left or right button that will show you ride time.

[@SHADOW-bg4mm]

I want to do that, to take out the plastic and old gauges, with motorcycle style head light and new handlebar gauges for my scooter.

[@billyrust6681]

What did everyone set there ppr and pulse to on there 4 strokes

[@49ccscoot]

1PPR for my 139QMB and GY6 150. A lot of small stuff is "wasted spark".

[@billyrust6681]

@@49ccscoot okay thank u very much 🙏

[@FranGarcia-d7s]

Como hago para que la hora quede en curso presente al estar apagado ya que cada vez que apago se reinicia a cero

[@49ccscoot]

Sounds like maybe the internal battery isn't working and/or it needs to be connected to the bike's battery.

[@loodydookyisnoops]

Please make a video about gy6 50cc engine with electronic fuel injection..

[@CustomcrowdMitroc]

I have an issue with my vapor I can change and save all the settings but it doesn't save the wheel size I change the wheel size in settings exit settings screen and it hasn't saved the tire size

[@49ccscoot]

I'm not sure why that would happen. You should try contacting Trail Tech's support. I've emailed them a few times in the past and they have always been helpful and responded in a timely manner.

[@giaserv]

Hello my vaport is stuck to 1999.9 km in DST ... what i have to do ? :D

[@49ccscoot]

Contact Trail Tech. www.trailtech.net/en-us/contact-us/

[@drdrew3]

Reading the sidewall of your tire and reading off a table is the least accurate method of determining tire circumference. Better to measure tire height with a tape measure and multiply by 3.14 (pi). Or put the valve stem at 6 o’clock and mark the ground with chalk. Then roll bike forward exactly one tire revolution and mark ground again. Then measure distance between those chalk marks for the circumstance. Usually close enough the first time.

[@49ccscoot]

I'd still check and calibrate vs GPS so they both end up in the same place. I've had no complaints with the GPS calibration method and many many tests vs GPS as well as RADAR readings show it to be very close. In the real world, most speedometers are up to 10% optimistic from OEMs, so we're well ahead of the game if we just get within a percent or so.

[@drdrew3]

@@49ccscoot The best way to measure tire circumference is to actually measure tire circumference. Of course you still need to calibrate against GPS regardless of the method. Those tables don’t account for tread wear, inflation, temperature or anything else

[@49ccscoot]

@@drdrew3 I agree... but if you've seen how different some people can measure the same thing then for general use I think any of the above are solid.

[@sireuc]

How do you keep the back light on ?

[@49ccscoot]

It should stay on when there's input from the speed or RPM sensor.

[@sireuc]

@@49ccscoot unfortunately it doesn't :(

[@49ccscoot]

@@sireuc Does it display speed and RPM properly? Do you have it connected to external power? It should work on it's own battery, but I don't think the backlight works the same when it's on battery.

[@sireuc]

I'm running it on a 2 stroke that dosnt have a battery .. And rpms and speedo work fine .. But no back light.. unless I hold the button on the right .. but it only turns on for a few seconds

[@49ccscoot]

@@sireuc I think you'd have to hook it to some sort of power supply.

[@jhoughjr1]

Because gps is inherently less accurate than the brute fact of the geometry and kinematics.

[@49ccscoot]

GPS calculation over multiple miles seems to work well. Accurate tire size settings are great, but I think most people will be able to be more accurate with the help of GPS because it's easy to be off a little with circumference measurements. Maintains accuracy with both GPS and RADAR after setting up that way from my experience. Much more accurate than OEM speedometers that are almost always multiple percent higher than actual speed.