[4K] Final Fantasy 12 Zodiac Age PS4/PS4 Pro vs PS2/Emulation Graphics Comparison + Frame-Rate Test

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Digital Foundry

Digital Foundry

7 жыл бұрын

Everything you need to know about Final Fantasy 12's new remaster. We've got comparisons between PS2, PS4 and PS4 Pro - and yes, we emulated the original code at 1080p to get a detailed picture of what the enhancements are above the resolution bump!
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@guilhermesena1283
@guilhermesena1283 7 жыл бұрын
The game looks pretty beautiful still. It's living proof that a stylized and well directed art is lot more future proof than pure and simple photorealism.
@MrBenedick14
@MrBenedick14 3 жыл бұрын
Final Fantasy 12 is my most favorite final fantasy series.. But in my eyes it didn't age very well, because it was not mean to be that way base on artistic design..but overall i still bought the game for my ps4 pro and ps5
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 6 ай бұрын
FF12 is the most photorealistic out of the games tho. Sure it has style with clothing, hairstyles and even racial features (everyone non-named in Ivalice is light brown/blonde-haired but tan since Tactics) but designs are less cartoonish in 12 than in any games before and arguably, 13 too.
@AI-qd4vb
@AI-qd4vb Ай бұрын
@@KasumiRINA X was not cartonish either...
@SprunkCovers
@SprunkCovers 4 жыл бұрын
I'm playing FFXII on my PS2 with component cables and tbh I was shocked that the game looked so well and aged so good, one of my favourite FF
@saibamoe
@saibamoe 11 ай бұрын
Amazing for the PS2 1999 hardware Hell 1999 was when 3D games still looked mostly blocky But the ps2 xould dish out these nice 3D models and decent textures
@justsayno1734
@justsayno1734 10 ай бұрын
Bought the game for PS2 last month and played it on PS2 with component cables aswell. Still looks pretty good, even on a modern UHD TV.
@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx
@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx 2 ай бұрын
@@justsayno1734 Are you for real don't do that.. PS2 with component doesn't belong on a UHD, the game doesn't even run at progressive scan, use HD adapter or CRT TV/Monitor. it's like a running a 256x256 profile picture at 50 inches
@kupokinzyt
@kupokinzyt Ай бұрын
@@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx Component cables for the PS2 went to 1080p. You are entirely incorrect as I have a Pound cable, along with one of those cheap PS2toHDMI things and it looks nowhere as sharp as component. The other two are upscalers, essentially taking the sub 480p image and stretching them to 4K.
@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx
@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx Ай бұрын
@@kupokinzyt PS2 looks good only on a crt unless it's a game that can render >480p with with no 2d back grounds, second option's to use a high quality upscaler like RetroTINK 2X ect
@CaptainKenway
@CaptainKenway 7 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you taking a look at PCSX2 as well. It's interesting to see how these remasters stack up to emulation.
@cecokeco
@cecokeco 7 жыл бұрын
the emulator can run it at 4k and 60 fps
@FlagshipFighter
@FlagshipFighter 7 жыл бұрын
cecokeco at 60fps too? (without screwing up game logic/sound/causing input delay?) wow that is good!
@cecokeco
@cecokeco 7 жыл бұрын
yes
@FlagshipFighter
@FlagshipFighter 7 жыл бұрын
cecokeco hmmmm makes you wonder why they didn't follow through with it for the remaster, considering kingdom hearts and the rest are 60fps (and in some instances 4k too...)
@cecokeco
@cecokeco 7 жыл бұрын
like DF said more time will be spend for 60 fps on PC that time was spend and that is why there is 60 fps and for the 4k maybe is the laziness of the devs or the weak CPU
@mediaglitch
@mediaglitch 7 жыл бұрын
Great video and great info, thanks for taking all the time it must take to make one of these.
@Bahamut-bj3bh
@Bahamut-bj3bh 4 жыл бұрын
This game was already one of the best looking games on ps2
@johnaldridge83
@johnaldridge83 7 жыл бұрын
This is still my favorite FF by a mile. Put over 200 hours into it back in the day and I can't wait to play it again.
@reganmusicnz
@reganmusicnz 7 жыл бұрын
As for the "Moody look", I think you're partly right in that the lighting model has changed and they may be using updated shaders, and better lighting algos altogether, tho a lot of the included darkness may be a sign that they have realtime ambient occlusion at work this time around.
@hfyd94
@hfyd94 7 жыл бұрын
Nice job on the comparison through PCSX2. Normally it's hard to tell texture differences from an old 480p video compared to a 1080p video but rendering it through emulation is an excellent idea and I hope you guys do it more often with remaster graphic comparisons :)
@Enverex
@Enverex 6 жыл бұрын
Forcing anisotropic filtering and trilinear filtering in PCSX2 would likely have made quite a lot of the textures look a bit better (not massively, but still noticeable). Also having PCSX2 render above your resolution and scale down further improves quality (as it basically works as a form of antialiasing).
@S_F_S
@S_F_S 11 ай бұрын
Genius! I didn't think that rendering at higher res and scale it down later is basically an antialiasing on steroid!!! But thatì's insanely expensive resources wise..... it could be useful for older titles tho.
@jinkazama7587
@jinkazama7587 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you DF for this analysis. I'm glad that Sony and SE released this remaster for the PS4, this imo is the best RPG on PS2 gameplay wise. Now I'm waiting for SE to re-release the remastered complete FFXIII saga. Wouldn't it be nice if SE remakes Vagrant Story from the ground up?
@lionheart4424
@lionheart4424 4 жыл бұрын
Loved how you started the video showing the opening cinematic war scenes with the Rabanastre uplifting song lmao.
@JoyBoy1990
@JoyBoy1990 6 жыл бұрын
okay first, where is the rom and what kind of emulator should i use and which settings ? i really wanna play ff12 zodiac on pc STABLE
@stevelawson7595
@stevelawson7595 7 жыл бұрын
the PS Pro support for this is abysmal!
@lee1130fromtwitter
@lee1130fromtwitter 7 жыл бұрын
Faysal Hashi lol any support is more than i expected. there's what maybe 2 mil ps4pros out there and how many will buy this game. maybe 50k of them...
@edimarjunior9616
@edimarjunior9616 4 жыл бұрын
no, runs at 30fps.
@iriasu1667
@iriasu1667 7 жыл бұрын
Did you know PCSX2 was initially released in 2002. Whereas FF12 on 2006. I just wanna say thank you to everyone who contributed to the 15 years of development and continued to do so. Emulators, saving game since forever.
@sergioaloisi
@sergioaloisi 5 жыл бұрын
where can i find the settings that you used on pcsx2? thanks
@ThorStoneGaming
@ThorStoneGaming 7 жыл бұрын
So does it even have 1440p supersampling for 1080p screens? You totally omitted that info.
@VideosbySteve
@VideosbySteve 7 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does the jump from PS2 to PS3 seem vastly larger (in terms of graphical/performance power) than PS3 to PS4?
@killermoon635
@killermoon635 7 жыл бұрын
Yes. Also, the gap between PS1 and PS2 is even larger than PS2 and PS3 The difference between PS1 and PS2 is night and day. Even early game on PS2 looked like looked miles better the best looking games on PS1
@BeatmasterAC
@BeatmasterAC 7 жыл бұрын
RetroSteve Diminishing returns www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/polygon-count-diminishing-returns-consoles.jpeg
@henrycamacho3380
@henrycamacho3380 7 жыл бұрын
i just want a 4k60 patch for ffx/x-2 hd but that will probably never happen😣
@dansendebi
@dansendebi 7 жыл бұрын
I have both the standard ps4 and pro available any reason to choose the standard instead of the pro for this game? Im playing on the sony w9 1080p tv
@TheErnieforss
@TheErnieforss 7 жыл бұрын
how's the voice quality? is it still muffled?
@Valshiirs
@Valshiirs 7 жыл бұрын
What? I expected 4k 60fps on Pro. Its a remaster of PS2 game. What the hell? And that pop-in. And it costs 50$.
@MrTherandomvidsguy
@MrTherandomvidsguy 7 жыл бұрын
Valsh lazy developers
@admyr2270
@admyr2270 7 жыл бұрын
Valsh it's remaster and the original game was developed to run in 30fps so will the remaster do. That is a remaster a remake is much different
@dargis49
@dargis49 7 жыл бұрын
Good point. They still could have upped the fps.
@Valshiirs
@Valshiirs 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, they said that in the video. Still, its way too expensive, imo.
@Benedictus899
@Benedictus899 7 жыл бұрын
Then there's no reason to charge a full AAA price if they aren't willing to put the effort
@MrWinnieP
@MrWinnieP 7 жыл бұрын
Their skin tones always felt off in the original. Looked pasty and corpse like. glad they fixed it. looking forward to replaying one of my favorite PS2 games (yes I liked it more than X)
@connorwideman7629
@connorwideman7629 3 жыл бұрын
I love both of those games, such different battle mechanics that they work pretty well playing them both back to back. Cheers!
@Bajolzas
@Bajolzas 7 жыл бұрын
does it have supersampling to 1080p?
@NotOrdinaryInGames
@NotOrdinaryInGames 6 жыл бұрын
X-plain how the whole 4:3 to widescreen zoom works. Why the loss of detail? Is it always lost?
@Meowtias
@Meowtias 7 жыл бұрын
I'd love if FFVIII comes out remake or remastered
@justingoretoy1628
@justingoretoy1628 4 жыл бұрын
FFXII might be the best looking PS2 games.
@SentientAnomaly
@SentientAnomaly 7 жыл бұрын
I did some gaming on PCSX2 with a few games, always increasing the internal resolution and applying the proper widescreen patches with the correct aspect ratio, and the graphics really look beautiful and the textures get an enormous bump in resolution. There seems to be something wrong with your graphics for the emulated version of FFXII. They still look quite crap to me even though you say you upped the resolution. Maybe something went wrong because they should look much better than that once you change the internal resolution, and you can go way past 1080p. Also you don't seem to be using any anti aliasing.
@Kairosdex
@Kairosdex 7 жыл бұрын
does the main character have a subsurface scattering effect? in the desert scenes it looks a lot nicer than the original
@Anviification
@Anviification 7 жыл бұрын
Very nice that the PCSX2 compares were included. The original PS2 vs PS4 compares weren't as useful due to resolution differences.
@Biddybalboa
@Biddybalboa 7 жыл бұрын
the whole point is the difference dumbass
@Hazemann
@Hazemann 6 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Switch version...Come on Square Enix, come on
@Gitaroo236
@Gitaroo236 7 жыл бұрын
What happen to the nex machina console analysis?
@EddyRIPdeath
@EddyRIPdeath 2 жыл бұрын
What resolution does it run in PS5?
@thenonexistinghero
@thenonexistinghero 7 жыл бұрын
There's no excuse for 30 fps. Not reworking some core fundamentals might be an excuse for a quick, cheap remaster you can buy for $20. This game is pretty much that same kind of cheap remaster, except they're asking $50 for it instead of $20. The game just seems to be rendered at a higher resolution natively and that's pretty much it.
@alonneknight7710
@alonneknight7710 7 жыл бұрын
Are you a game dev to say that "there's no excuse"? Did you programed Final Fantasy 12? Jesus, it's explained in the fucking video why it is not 60 fps. "Gamers" are seriously becoming more cancerous and ignorants day after day.
@thenonexistinghero
@thenonexistinghero 7 жыл бұрын
No, they didn't explain it in the video. All that was explained was a potential pathetic excuse for the developers to be fucking lazy and not put in any effort. They're asking $50 for this piece of shit port. The entire Crash Bandicoot trilogy was remastered with superb new graphics, gameplay tweaks, some extras and that all for a mere $40.
@BigKris666
@BigKris666 7 жыл бұрын
Welp, time to wait for the PC release.
@ahobo
@ahobo 6 жыл бұрын
welp..
@LookItIsHope
@LookItIsHope 6 жыл бұрын
Char Aznable Think again.
@edimarrodrigrove3377
@edimarrodrigrove3377 4 жыл бұрын
@Char Aznable excuse me?
@hobbified
@hobbified 7 жыл бұрын
For fun, look at the menu board outside the Sandsea. You can get up close and see exactly what squiggles are for sale.
@davidesteban191
@davidesteban191 5 жыл бұрын
I know that 2080 and 2080ti were made for 4k gaming, but those cards are made to run the most hardcore games at 4k, the requirements for the pc version of this game are very low, so I have a pc with rtx2060, ryzen 5 2600 overclocked it to meet the 2600x specs, and 4x4gb 2666mhz crucial ballistix, can I run it at 4k with no problem taking in mind the rcmd requirements are very low? For info shadow of the tomb Raider runs at 80+fps in highest settings in 1080p, 40-50 in 2k at ultra, and haven't tried 4k because obvious reasons, but considering that shadow of the tomb raider requires fairly high specs to run compared to this, can I run the pc version of this game in 4k 60fps+?
@chrisd6736
@chrisd6736 7 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest high framerate is not at all necessary to enjoy an RPG like this...
@dariogeminis87
@dariogeminis87 7 жыл бұрын
Chris D I scrolled waaaaay too much for something like this...all these assholes complaining about resolutions and fps..when gaming started to be shitty?? what can you expect for a remaster?? is not even a complete remake...anyway, I wanted to say I agree with you lol
@Pendaemonium
@Pendaemonium 7 жыл бұрын
they just seek for attention nothing more. you can easily see it because they wrote down 1 comment and never come back....its pathetic. i have alot of fun with the game so far and on my 1080p tv (which is like 9 years old) it looks really great and sharp.
@chrisd6736
@chrisd6736 7 жыл бұрын
dariogeminis87 I mean, for fighting games, first person shooters, racing games, arcade style games, sure- i get it. More frames are awesome. But FFXII? Hell no. Framerate is basically a non-factor. As for resolution, I played this game on a freaking 10 year old cathode ray tube TV and loved every minute of it.
@dariogeminis87
@dariogeminis87 7 жыл бұрын
exactly, fighting games and FPS games are a completely different topic but FF XII doesn't need 4k or 60 fps, that's why I get so pissed when I read comments complaining about those stuff in a game that doesn't really need those. I also played it when I was a kid on the ps2 and I enjoyed it a LOT altough I didn't finish it, so this is my chance to finish it and play the Zodiac version
@jinkisaragi874
@jinkisaragi874 7 жыл бұрын
Glad i found normal people here after all. Everyone just talks about numbers and nobody cares about the game itself.
@HuGiv5
@HuGiv5 7 жыл бұрын
Ff XV - 1800P CB plus extras FF XII Old Ps2 Game - 1440p Lmao devs aren't even trying.
@eyedye
@eyedye 7 жыл бұрын
I agree, this is a shameless cash grab.
@6utS
@6utS 7 жыл бұрын
To be honest 1440p has more native pixels from checkboarded 1800p, since that is 2x 900p native checkboarded to 1800p, and native 1440p is 78% more pixels from native 1080p.
@LeenatKomanda
@LeenatKomanda 7 жыл бұрын
Eye Dye "Shameless cash grab"... Oh my fucking god... It took more than two years to remaster. Just because Pro support isn't the best, doesn't mean that the remaster itself is bad.
@Jneenja
@Jneenja 7 жыл бұрын
You have no fucking clue how game development works. You should actually know how to make / remaster a game before you bash on the developers for "not trying".
@NicolasSilvaVasault
@NicolasSilvaVasault 7 жыл бұрын
+Leenat the remaster itself is fucking bad, 2 years, really?
@kakisport
@kakisport 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it was played on ps5 will it be better or not?
@JennyBonBon
@JennyBonBon 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Can't wait until my copy arrives tomorrow.
@SimonZellox
@SimonZellox 7 жыл бұрын
I still don't get the point of the stupid PS4 pro and Xbox one X. Yeah, they can play some games better but not every game. They aren't even being used to their full potential in some cases which sucks. It's just a battle of Tflops and GHz, nothing more. Games like GTA V don't have a pro patch and will likely never receive one so it's wasted power in many cases. At least when I get a new GPU on PC I can crank my games to higher settings and I can immediately see a benefit, no matter which game. Every single game benefits from it whereas on console I'll probably never see my new hardware perform any better in my favorite games. How frustrating...
@Anon9729X
@Anon9729X 7 жыл бұрын
Simon So corporate slaves can waste more of their money. It's a joke that we're in 2017 and games on both PS4 and Xbox one can't run games at 60fps. Hell Xbox one doesn't even have exclusive games. Both consoles are a joke, but 4K though 😡.
@Silikone
@Silikone 7 жыл бұрын
30 FPS was a mistake.
@pkmn_trainer_chito1502
@pkmn_trainer_chito1502 7 жыл бұрын
Silikone shut up, nerd.
@CroneRaven1810
@CroneRaven1810 7 жыл бұрын
Silikone You are a mistake.
@umarsuleiman5530
@umarsuleiman5530 7 жыл бұрын
Silikone did you grow up on 120fps? 30fps is an industry wide standard for console games.
@Godzi1998
@Godzi1998 7 жыл бұрын
you are not wrong, but that doesnt stop it from being a terrible standard
@vladurban6036
@vladurban6036 7 жыл бұрын
Design solution, not a technical limitation obviously.
@TripMX
@TripMX 7 жыл бұрын
I like how you acknowledge the comparison between the PS2 and PS4/Pro versions both running on HDTVs. I have the original FFXII (PS2) game, and I play it exclusively on PS2 and have it hooked up to a 26" WideScreen SDTV running component cables, and still to this day, I am very impressed with the visual fidelity SquareEnix achieved with the game! In closing, I will say that with my aforementioned setup, the game looks MUCH better than on most HDTVs (including the one shown in this video), and can be quite comparable to the PS4/Pro HD Remaster. Playing the game at its native resolution on a native resolution display running the highest quality setup possible can be astounding if you ever get the chance to experience it. :)
@faiyez
@faiyez 7 жыл бұрын
Can you look at Stormblood on PS4 Pro?
@70174
@70174 7 жыл бұрын
I've been playing the remastered for years now. it's called an emulator. 6x the resolution at 60fps. it's fucking amazing.
@killermoon635
@killermoon635 7 жыл бұрын
1- Emulator does not run it on 60fps. 60fps (or 50fps for PAL) in PCSX2 means you are getting same fps as original PS2. That how it works. It has noting to with real fps 2- 6x resolution with blury textures you mean ?! And no proper shadows, and lacks all other enhancements that you get on remaster ?!
@BocalokaTV
@BocalokaTV 7 жыл бұрын
Which site did you use for the game?
@umarsuleiman5530
@umarsuleiman5530 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the technical analysis DF. It looks and plays great on the PS4 Pro.
@brucewayne8562
@brucewayne8562 7 жыл бұрын
Umar Suleiman you drunk ? 1440p 30fps is embarrassing. Devs should be ashamed, game should be running easy native 4K at 60fps on the pro
@umarsuleiman5530
@umarsuleiman5530 7 жыл бұрын
Bruce Wayne Nah I don't drink. You should speak with your wallet if you don't like this conversion. I think it looks great on the Pro. I would highly recommend this game to any FF or JRPG fan out there.
@yummyhershey5902
@yummyhershey5902 7 жыл бұрын
Bruce Wayne, just because it's not 4k it doesn't look good? That's some really messed up logic.
@simonh5004
@simonh5004 5 жыл бұрын
can we please get a small update for switch/xbox versions? thanks :)
@marvink.9369
@marvink.9369 6 жыл бұрын
How come it's playing 60 fps in my PS4 pro?
@eustachymotyka931
@eustachymotyka931 6 жыл бұрын
1 February 2018 - PC version :)
@frederickortiz3901
@frederickortiz3901 7 жыл бұрын
1440P 30fps on a PS2 port...REALLY?!
@TheBeanfinite
@TheBeanfinite 7 жыл бұрын
Pro seems to have a hard cap of 1440p on some games, must have a serious bottleneck somewhere.
@HaloMG
@HaloMG 7 жыл бұрын
yeah.....i wonder where....
@thomaskings8094
@thomaskings8094 7 жыл бұрын
My old GTX 770 didn't have any issues playing FFX HD in native 4k. Theres obviously something the developers did wrong, the PS4 pro shouldn't struggle at all from these graphics.
@lskdfoIS
@lskdfoIS 7 жыл бұрын
27 hours in and no issues on PC. FPS is up top of the pic. i.gyazo.com/040a2ff68ba883b48c45ab0d42de861e.png
@Justuas
@Justuas 6 жыл бұрын
Lmao casuals. Pc master race
@JMartinni
@JMartinni 7 жыл бұрын
Please tell me there's a chance the remaster will release on PC. FFXII was one of my favourite games on PS2 and I'd love to play the remaster but I don't own or want to own a PS4(Pro).
@chazzychaz9313
@chazzychaz9313 7 жыл бұрын
not coming to PC ? or I should wait ?
@AvalancheOfFire
@AvalancheOfFire 7 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, that smoov heych dee.
@ichinichisan
@ichinichisan 7 жыл бұрын
www.theonion.com/personalities/smoove-b-1022
@leonthesleepy
@leonthesleepy 7 жыл бұрын
I'm just here for the comment section
@Brian-iz8fi
@Brian-iz8fi 7 жыл бұрын
leonthesleepy same
@nicklong27
@nicklong27 7 жыл бұрын
Your armpits are toxic
@yellowblanka6058
@yellowblanka6058 7 жыл бұрын
Yep, it's pretty much the Mos Eisley of KZbin comments sections.
@SpawnViper4
@SpawnViper4 7 жыл бұрын
Really dude? That shit has me rolling!
@billyrosehag
@billyrosehag 7 жыл бұрын
It does indeed look quite beautiful. I gotta say that I´m becomning more and more compelled to give this game another go given how much love they seem to have put into this remaster.
@TalosPCR
@TalosPCR 7 жыл бұрын
4K @ 30FPS or 1080p @ 60fps?
@giannis_tar
@giannis_tar 7 жыл бұрын
"that's extremely time consuming for a remaster" THEN DON'T SELL IT FOR 50 EUROS.
@nichamahamek3590
@nichamahamek3590 7 жыл бұрын
PCSX2 > PS4 Pro
@cheappyv5156
@cheappyv5156 7 жыл бұрын
price?
@Andy-qk4bl
@Andy-qk4bl 7 жыл бұрын
No 4K downsampling on PCSX2 ? :(
@aos10
@aos10 7 жыл бұрын
what it "ahetch de" do you mean HD? it's just weird you pronounce it like that.
@qboycorvi
@qboycorvi 7 жыл бұрын
"I was disappointed to see the occasional 1 FPS drop from time to time" - man what a first world problem...
@Silvergun_Raven
@Silvergun_Raven 7 жыл бұрын
I've not played FFXII since I finished the original in 2006-2007. I love the world of Ivalice (Final Fantasy Tactics and Vagrant Story) and Hitoshi Sakimoto's soundtracks for all three go together perfectly. I can't wait to play this tomorrow!
@russelllee3782
@russelllee3782 7 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the added speed up option.
@Ifailedtopickanick
@Ifailedtopickanick 7 жыл бұрын
Jesus, why the gamma is clipped... again! It's RE4 HD all over again.
@stormlegend302
@stormlegend302 7 жыл бұрын
Talk about a lazy remaster, this should be 4K and 60fps
@ziegfeld4131
@ziegfeld4131 7 жыл бұрын
Storm Legend for 60fps they would have had to completely overhaul the game which they wernt willing to do
@hitmanpfc
@hitmanpfc 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah if it was on a powerful console. PS4 Pro is not a powerful console.
@natnit608
@natnit608 7 жыл бұрын
Bakugos angry and dissapointed
@davicito4841
@davicito4841 7 жыл бұрын
How is this combat?
@Zanarkke
@Zanarkke 7 жыл бұрын
This is pretty exciting actually, I'm currrently playing this on PCSX2, I know there are some shaders you can download but when I saw it running on ps4pro I was impressed. Not because of the system but because of the difference that bloom and ambient occlusion add to the game. The game looks like the CGI cutscenes. I dont have a ps4 though, and dont intend to get one for a while yet, but still thought I would chirp in. PS watched the video with no audio.
@steppe2154
@steppe2154 7 жыл бұрын
So many haters atleast we still get to play this masterpiece.
@zZiL341yRj736
@zZiL341yRj736 7 жыл бұрын
Not really a masterpiece but better than XIII. The map is just an empty fucking, getting from A to B is a pain in the ass.
@wishingW3L
@wishingW3L 7 жыл бұрын
"masterpiece" 😂😂😂😂😂
@nart216
@nart216 7 жыл бұрын
definitely a masterpiece. don't know what TF you talking about.
@marilynmanson8735
@marilynmanson8735 7 жыл бұрын
anthony senart lol no !
@86lanzo
@86lanzo 7 жыл бұрын
masterpiece. .this game simbolised the final fantasy series out of its glory days...the game is good..but not great..
@bobd5866
@bobd5866 7 жыл бұрын
Does Xbox even have games at this point?
@ApexLodestar
@ApexLodestar 7 жыл бұрын
got my steelbook edition pre-ordered. I'm just happy I'll be able to play it at a higher resolution with trophies and share functionality. one of my favorite FF games.
@Objectorbit
@Objectorbit 7 жыл бұрын
Yellow and orange colors seem to be muted to an extent, too. Look at the desert. The orange tint in the sand is gone.
@xQUATR0
@xQUATR0 7 жыл бұрын
Pray for 4K patches 💀😆 wait for it ⏱ ... Plays best on X ⚔
@KaiserJusi
@KaiserJusi 7 жыл бұрын
420iNzane nah X is only good for 4K mincraft
@xQUATR0
@xQUATR0 7 жыл бұрын
CJ Angelo ignorance is bliss
@jennierubyjane6137
@jennierubyjane6137 7 жыл бұрын
salty
@ahmadkakbar7590
@ahmadkakbar7590 7 жыл бұрын
ASavageWolf lol you again
@jameslee2195
@jameslee2195 7 жыл бұрын
these developers are just getting lazy.
@cheappyv5156
@cheappyv5156 7 жыл бұрын
what exactly warrants the $50 pricetag????
@cunnyman
@cunnyman 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Digital foundry for sparking console war on regular basis.
@nysea5291
@nysea5291 7 жыл бұрын
Comparing PS4 PRO to a PS2 emulation so you can actually see the difference. Laughable.
@Daigon95
@Daigon95 7 жыл бұрын
throw in some custom shaders and a high res texture mod to the emulation and u already hav a better price than paying tht much for a lazy "remaster".
@thehitbox3672
@thehitbox3672 7 жыл бұрын
FirPtl Can you tell me and the developers of pcsx2 how higher resolution texture mods would work on pcsx2? Its almost like you actually dont play on pc at all.
@chrisd6736
@chrisd6736 7 жыл бұрын
Ha I dont have the time or patience to play these games more than once...
@bakasoraa
@bakasoraa 7 жыл бұрын
Where is my Vagrant Story remaster at?
@mickeysantos8846
@mickeysantos8846 7 жыл бұрын
Is that lightning on the thumbnail 😊
@simonetarenzi3831
@simonetarenzi3831 7 жыл бұрын
50€ for ambient occlusion and some minor gameplay changes? wow
@marilynmanson8735
@marilynmanson8735 7 жыл бұрын
Simone Tarenzi imagine if Xbox did that with halo 2 remaster lol
@kaireng
@kaireng 7 жыл бұрын
They ran a photoshop filter on the textures to "up-rez" them ;) And 50 are they crazy ? The game is long true.... but for these money you could get a Wither 3 and a Dragon's Dogma if playtime is your poison. Dunno. Square does shit like that sometimes. PS. As Photoshop filters go - they have done a decent job at least - there is quite a bit of detail preserved.
@kelvinkegel2304
@kelvinkegel2304 7 жыл бұрын
Minor gameplay changes? Are you serious or just baiting?
@Machariel00
@Machariel00 7 жыл бұрын
Crash Bandicoot N'sane trilogy really ruined these lazy remasters for me.
@jeffberry638
@jeffberry638 7 жыл бұрын
machariel00 don't forget the other 50 remaster games on PS4
@jameslee2195
@jameslee2195 7 жыл бұрын
machariel00 very true. if the last of us can be native 4K why can't this game be. you just have some lazy Developers then you have Developers that are very good at what they do in really love their job
@DijaVlogsGames
@DijaVlogsGames 7 жыл бұрын
Only that the Crash Collection isn't a remaster, thus can't be compared to them. It's like saying "ugh, Super Mario Bros. looks so terrible on the Wii VC, the SNES Mario Allstars version looks so much better!"
@always_serpico
@always_serpico 7 жыл бұрын
Those are remakes, not remasters.
@ShadowEl
@ShadowEl 7 жыл бұрын
machariel00 you mean the 3D platformer that doesn't even run at 60 FPS in 2017?
@hugo-garcia
@hugo-garcia 3 жыл бұрын
Took my the old CRT with component inputs from the attic and looks better on real PS2 than any Pcsx2 or PS4 Pro, 4KTV, OLed... You name it , period.
@RiasatSalminSami
@RiasatSalminSami 7 жыл бұрын
Finally dynamic shadows. This was the thing that drove me nuts back in Ps2-Xbox-Dx8 era.
@sinyourlifeaway
@sinyourlifeaway 7 жыл бұрын
What's the point of PS4 PRO?....
@TheGIJoe69
@TheGIJoe69 7 жыл бұрын
Notyourtype The devs were lazy with this one. I blame them not Sony
@CleetusVanDamme530
@CleetusVanDamme530 7 жыл бұрын
Paladin Joe agreed, sounds like it was half assed when it came to the resolution and frame rate for the Pro especially since SE was able to achieve 4K/60 fps with the Kingdom Hearts remakes. Hopefully they'll patch it asap and use the resources to their fullest potential.
@Biddybalboa
@Biddybalboa 7 жыл бұрын
if Sony put a better processor in the thing the devs could make games perform better. It is Sony's fault.
@mobious01
@mobious01 7 жыл бұрын
Im glad i didn't get a pro, for some reason the 1440p resolution affects the looks on some games
@yummyhershey5902
@yummyhershey5902 7 жыл бұрын
To have PS4 games that look better than on the original. I'm not really sure if it's worth it though...
@bigdaddy9800
@bigdaddy9800 7 жыл бұрын
lmao
@carlkitchen
@carlkitchen 7 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the changed lighting doesn't change the general feel of the cave & ruin type dungeons as that was something I really liked about the original in PS2. I guess I'll have to grab my copy from my parents place now that it's arrived in the mail to find out.
@ABaumstumpf
@ABaumstumpf Жыл бұрын
Dynamic shadows is a strange thing - the original PS2-game DOES have them, but they are only enabled in very limited sections. (even FF-X had them... in i think 2 areas? )
@jojitech
@jojitech 7 жыл бұрын
To the people hating, do not blame the system. Blame the lazy developers that couldn't get the game to native 4k when other games can be played native at 4k on the PS4 Pro. Plus most of you don't even have a 4k TV and just complain for no reason.
@sixgaming30
@sixgaming30 7 жыл бұрын
can't wait to play this on Xbox x oh wait
@ogjohn7877
@ogjohn7877 7 жыл бұрын
xbox one got no games
@CroneRaven1810
@CroneRaven1810 7 жыл бұрын
Axel Celik Xboners don't buy jrpgs. Only pew pew and vroom vroom.
@howeedong6455
@howeedong6455 7 жыл бұрын
Axel Celik ew we don't want this kid ass game
@autumn4643
@autumn4643 7 жыл бұрын
CroneRaven1810 I'd say the same for Sony but they shut down the studio for one of their vroom vroom games (Driveclub) and delayed their other vroom vroom game (Again...) because it can't compete (GT Sport). :v
@arthurcollector4002
@arthurcollector4002 7 жыл бұрын
cant wait to play ff15 in 4k on ps 4 pro oh wait
@BaresarkSlayne
@BaresarkSlayne 6 жыл бұрын
Good video. One thing wrong, this game has no issues on emulation at 60FPS. Here is the thing, there are some games out there that tie framerate to some of the effects, but that is very few games in reality, anymore anyway. I see this excuse all the time, but the game does not have any speed issues on an emulator. Don't get me wrong, the better textures are almost worth it alone. Also, IZJS version is on the emulation. Totally played through the game with this one time before. If you are going to talk about emulators, might as well make it accurate.
@kevinsuarezmacena1003
@kevinsuarezmacena1003 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like an oil painting to me and the art direction shines even more, I think is pretty rad what they've acomplished with this remaster. Nevertheless, they could bump the draw distance to the limits in exchange of the frame rate lock in 30 but having both limitations, I don't know just saying.
@paccacio2935
@paccacio2935 7 жыл бұрын
looks the same pretty much ill pass
@brucewayne8562
@brucewayne8562 7 жыл бұрын
Why the Fuck do publishers keep giving virtuous these remasters. Ffx looked like shit and they completely butchered the arkham games. This game should technically run at 4K 60fps on the pro
@Odank
@Odank 7 жыл бұрын
Perfectly comfortable with the 30fps (although a 60fps option would have been great to see). Remaster is looking very nice although some of the textures mainly on ground/floors and edifices look a bit off and could have benefited from more shading/occlusion of some sort to break them up to look more grounded and natural. I remember being very surprised at this underrated FF and loving the story and all of the sidequest hunts. Will jump back in as FF 15 left a gaping hole with expectations and I know the this will not disappoint.
@ThexJasonxSensation
@ThexJasonxSensation 11 ай бұрын
How can it not do 60 fps?
@jamesbondblhk1007
@jamesbondblhk1007 7 жыл бұрын
Now that is just sad.
@jamesbondblhk1007
@jamesbondblhk1007 7 жыл бұрын
Rosencrantz23ph Who said anything about Xbox? Matter of fact, why even bring Xbox in this?
@jamesbondblhk1007
@jamesbondblhk1007 7 жыл бұрын
Rosencrantz23ph Except you're taunting another console, which is pointless, because we know Xbox One X will be powerful, but we don't know how powerful. Obviously not at high-end PC powerful, but maybe better than PS4. Especially the Pro. But then again, we don't know and I like the PS4. But it does have its problems.
@wswsd3279
@wswsd3279 7 жыл бұрын
why are you sad ? :'(
@jamesbondblhk1007
@jamesbondblhk1007 7 жыл бұрын
wswsd 32 The fact that the PS4 Pro version is 1440p instead of 4K and has no other graphical improvement.
@Jneenja
@Jneenja 7 жыл бұрын
Ignorance.
@Ultizer
@Ultizer 7 жыл бұрын
1440p/30fps for a PS2 game is pathetic, devs are just lazy, this should easily be 4K.
@Wayneextremity
@Wayneextremity 7 жыл бұрын
Well, how many Final Fantasy remasters are we talking about here? There seems to be so many lol. And this is a PS2 era game, running sub native 4K? Square Enix..
@jacobhall4486
@jacobhall4486 7 жыл бұрын
do the division ps4 pro anaylsis
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