[4K] Final Fantasy 12: Switch/Xbox One Tested + Bonus Final Fantasy 10 Analysis

One of Square Enix's crowning triumphs of the PS2 era is back in a further updated release. Nintendo Switch brings the portable goods, while Xbox One X is unique for offering 60fps on console - though with a catch. Tom covers all.
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[@dreammfyre]

Game is almost like 15 years old now and it still looks so modern. Talk about quality assets, art and design.

[@ryeb]

yeah, the game still looks amazing today. it’s my favorite ff.

[@brandenlucero]

@Cyberdemon Mike then you have a shit taste in gaming.

[@snchez2106]

Cyberdemon Mike It's probably the best FF ever. You are a damn idiot for saying that shit, this game was way to advanced for it's era, that's why it has survived even in these times.

[@solonepeon5805]

The games art & battle system is from Vagrant Story because it's made from the same creator that did that game so it's a reason why many say how different this FF game is from the series. Check out Vagrant Story gameplay when you get the chance because it's a awesome game that needs a HD remaster next.

[@gabrieleriva651]

At the time it was strange to see an AAA game on PS2 when Gears of War and Lost Planet were already released on Xbox 360. I think the game would had benefit greatly by being delayed to 2008 and being released on PS360.

[@ardiccus]

Rogue Tomato VANQUISHED

[@charoleawood]

VAANQUISHED!!

[@PoteDaGanancia]

I'm Captain Basch fon Ronsenburg of Dalmasca!

[@dr.velious5411]

BASCH LIVES!

[@ranmouri5648]

Over Here BucketHead!

[@mazenhaggag8669]

Don't believe Ondorre's lies!

[@SiGeTVee]

Playing it right now on Switch. It's a great port! Load times are especially quick and image quality holds up in handheld.

[@sladey21]

Any blurriness at all on the switch? Handheld or otherwise

[@marcw3852]

@@sladey21 a little if you're stacking it up next to ps/xb on the big TV, distant objects in particular. I'd say the image quality holds up better than Xenoblade C 2 in handheld though

[@sladey21]

@@marcw3852 xc2 was pretty bad, handheld graphics wise. Thanks for the input. 👍

[@atomickaiser1934]

@@sladey21 yeah xenoblade 2 desperately needs a boost

[@Wahid_on_youtobe]

Proof ?

[@pobbityboppity1110]

Free Final Fantasy X Switch/Xbox analysis included! Thanks for that, I was looking at picking those up.

[@Shinssue]

FF X run decently on Vita, hard to imagine any problem for the switch/xOne versions

[@chrisd6736]

Both X and XII are pretty cool games.

[@slax4884]

They need to link affiliate links to selling the games themselves to make some money

[@KHhero]

FFX ASMR version has the most realistic/lifelike graphics still I'd say especially for Al Bhed girls...

[@Hikariinu124]

Ff12 portable is worth any price, I was heartbroken when they didn't release it on vita way back when. But I'm a happy camper now! Already put 20 hours in and loving it.

[@ZantetsukenGilgamesh]

Portable FF12 really is the way to go. Remember that the original PS2 was a 480p resolution, anything above it is a good improvement.

[@johnodaz1273]

Great stuff DF. I have picked up the Switch version and looking forward too playing thru it.

[@WickedRibbon]

Loved the battle system in XII. Amazing to see it on a portable system.

[@TerraExcessum]

That soundtrack though! Such feels.

[@PsychologyOK]

Man, that 60 FPS is very noticeable. Combat looks much smoother on the XBOX ONE X

[@noahwilliams482]

Noah Minton I’ll be playing with my 120+ fps on my pc😂

[@stolenname94]

@@noahwilliams482 good for you bro

[@sladey21]

@@stolenname94 He's my hero😍

[@stolenname94]

@Char Aznable don't forget the curved monitor's and led lights

[@jaspal99]

@@noahwilliams482 No you won't. The game is capped at 60 fps on PC, if you go higher the whole game speeds up like some benny hill film

[@hadokenexe]

I've been waiting for this video!

[@RitzMalheur]

Wow. This is absolutely a phenomenal comparison. I am only NOW finding out that these two games released physically on Switch, so I want to get my hands on them. I really appreciate that you showed the footage of each in unison and didn't give a bias to the Series X, but respected each platform in their own right. Outstanding work!

[@AGameWithChums]

RE FFX: thank you! I was absolutely sure it looked much sharper on One X than when I played it on base PS4, but people kept telling me it wasn't really enhanced. I thought I was losing my marbles.

[@Nailsinmytummy]

Loved the Gambit system in this game, super fun.

[@dr.velious5411]

There's plenty of rpgs that could take a hint from the gambit system, being able to essentially program your allies to do the proper actions is great, what isn't is having to actually track down the dang commands to use them.

[@Nailsinmytummy]

@@dr.velious5411 I feel it was ok for them to give you the commands bit by bit, the game is ungodly long either way and you'd probably bee too overwhelmed by the system if they gave all of it to you at the very start. In a modern rpg you could simply tie it to a sort of tactcs/command skill and gate the commands that way.

[@GANTZ100pts]

@@dr.velious5411 I agree all the commands should be there out of the box. You shouldn't have to find them in quests or chest or whatever.

[@GameslordXY]

I am looking forward to DF's 1 000 000 subs at the end of the year.😃

[@2drealms196]

I don't think DF will even pass 850000 by years end :(

[@mrdadecounty3056]

Awesome comparison as always

[@juanpesb]

Imagine play that beauty anywhere in portable mode… I'm really happy it was realase on switch.

[@Psydrre]

I'm playing it on my Vita with better visuals then the Switch version.

[@mariaismelda6094]

@@Psydrre Well I'm playing it on my PSP that's better than all the other ports

[@glorious720p_2]

Psydrre FF12 isn’t on the vita. And ff10 on vita looks worse than on Switch

[@Psydrre]

@@glorious720p_2 Glorious720p _ I am using remote play so I very much am playing it on Vita. And PS4 version in most cases has a higher graphical setting preset which makes it look better the the Switch version bar a very slight resolution reduction.

[@sladey21]

I'm playing it on top of the eiffel tower whilst having a shit.

[@gabor-toth]

Performance is more important than resolution in my opinion so I'm really happy the X version runs at 60 fps. It looks the best in this regard.

[@johnpenguin9188]

Gábor Tóth 60fps is very important for a jrpg....

[@SuperRocketKnight]

It's a third person title with full camera control. How are people downplaying how smooth 60 FPS looks simply because the games combat doesnt benefit from the 16ms response time?

[@MaikonGarcia]

@@SuperRocketKnight 'cause It inst a Sony platform is a Microsoft one.

[@bes5164]

@@SuperRocketKnight 60 fps is not just about a response time but 60 fps just looks and feels better than 30 fps

[@bes5164]

@xiaguan whisky I said "60 fps is not just about " ...that JUST is important

[@canosisplays5152]

Half off in the eshop right now. After this review I’ll be picking it up. Thanks

[@ThoughTMusic]

I was waiting for these.

[@snowgentleman1937]

It is weird to see old games today. When I was young my Imagination filled all the pixelated gaps. For Instance in Halo 1 the Jungle Map. I still have in my mind that it was a really dense forest but in reality it does not look remotely like a forest. I hope that the kids today who play with the Switch Version of old games have the same Imagination like we did in past.

[@WiseGuy3683]

Well, I was already going to get it on Switch. This is just icing on the cake. It's really crazy how far technology has come. I still remember at the beginning of gen 8 when 3DS and Vita launched. While those systems looked good for the time, they were still a good ways below the PS3 and 360 in many ways. While Switch is definitely below the vanilla PS4 and vanilla XB1, unlike Vita and 3DS when compared to PS3 and 360, Switch is strong enough to get ports from XB1 and PS4 and in most cases, while there's always a difference between versions, the Switch versions are usually not far off. This is just another example of this. On top of this though, this is using a Tegra X1, aka, a chip from 2015. Tegra chips have gotten a lot more powerful since then. If a new Switch launches in 2020 with a Tegra chip from 2018, like the Xavier or Orin, that could be a pretty sizable jump.

[@lyconxero457]

I have FFX and I could tell it was a great port as soon as a put it in so I'm glad to hear 12 was done justice as well. Unfortunately, I've already got 12 in several other places so I probably won't be picking it up for Switch until it drops in price.

[@goonertron87]

First time playing this game. I am loving the gambit system.

[@Tatariu]

It would be god tier if you could also cover Crystal Chronicles when it comes out.

[@FDestroy3r]

Can't believe they couldnt achieve 60 FPS on most systems... even on Switch it should be realistic to achieve. Needing an ONE X to run a former PS2 game at 60 FPS is a real shame

[@snchez2106]

Yeah, considering event the most low end PC's can easily run this game at 60 fps, I don't get why they didn't do it on the PS4.

[@johanarvedal9741]

PC 3440x1440 looks better at 60 on rtx2060 and is a wow faktor. Switch on the go is like a perfakt fit. PS4 for weebs want it on there platforms right next SE collaction and jrpgs..lol And SE just can go and port some more fine wine for i want FF8 on switch and gonna dubbel dip on FFCC. SE just suck now 6 teraflop for ps2 game when FFX was perfekt at 60. What happend on pro...lol

[@afrops3935]

@@johanarvedal9741 wat. Pixels

[@solonepeon5805]

They can always patch it but SE is money hungry cheap lol.

[@johanarvedal9741]

@@afrops3935 3440x1440p 21:9

[@dwijaksara]

I've put 100+ hours in FFXII on my PS2.. can't wait to spend another 100+ hours on switch 😊

[@solonepeon5805]

High five💥!

[@dwijaksara]

@@solonepeon5805 I got you, buddy! 💥💥

[@ln8496]

WAY less than 100 considering speed upx4

[@Delicashilous]

Favorite Game of all the Time!!!

[@maximini4923]

It's cool to have the numbers on screen when you say them. I'm not english and it has always been hard for me to follow. Thank

[@Ruko]

Looove this game, i already own the PS4 copy (which haven't got the time to play, have priority to new games) but i think i'm going to triple dip with the Xbox One to play on the X.

[@amdesilva36]

This is my favorite RPG ever.

[@Aaron-od9ul]

This is great, and I hope Dragon Quest VIII comes to modern consoles, along with the remastered, less-echoey music.

[@Orbitthemaster]

And uncensored unlike the 3DS version.

[@Aaron-od9ul]

And with Jessica's original voice.....but that would conflict with the new optional ending. :(

[@anaran4811]

Unless you are already playing on a 4k display, I find the difference between switch and other consoles to be not that big when playing, the difference in resolution doesn't interfere much with the experience if you are not directly comparing versions. The option to play on the go stand out for me, but that only matters if you like RPGs on the go.

[@stolenname94]

The switch is basicly a play on the go gimmick imo. Some games I could understand but often it boils down to waiting months for old games which run better on every other platform just to play them on a bus. I can remember doubting the switch when dark souls kept getting delayed was amazed people were really willing to wait around and pay full price for essentialy the worse version after the ps3. Sure it's a cool handheld but there are so many games which imo don't really need the switch but they just keep making ports.

[@anaran4811]

@@stolenname94 Well, in my case, is not only the bus but anywhere anytime, that's what I like it, not to mention I can do that with the exclusives. They could run better on a more powerful console, but there are plenty of those out there, so to me, the Switch is only widening the options. It could be a matter of taste, though.

[@iconofsin4578]

Nice to have these on xbox!

[@shuntarofurukawa5577]

Finally some company has the idea to bring jprgs to the system

[@MaikonGarcia]

As a FF X/X-2, Just 🤩🤩🤩

[@VariantAEC]

@Frank Gringer Red-Out is on PS4. Also objectively speaking Red-Out isn't anything like WipEout. In my personal opinion WipEout is much better than Red-Out.

[@yukiharvestfans]

@Frank Gringer damn dude just enjoy any fucking games.

[@jazrocks19]

@BackdriftNightfall don't you ever think that not all gamers like jrpgs?

[@glorious720p_2]

Both are fantastic ports

[@ElricSowrd]

Oh my god! (Joseph Joestar style) FFXII is 60 FPS on XBox One X, but not PS4 Pro?

[@Kos4Evr]

I'm glad that while the xbonex is ultimately the better version the switch port isn't a huge difference over all. The fact that it is largely on pat with the xbone port is saying a lot

[@user-vx1jj1lf6v]

I remember playing this game on the ps2 for the first time. It surprised me how the ps2 could handle the graphics without any performance drop. Good game overall. Thanks for the analysis DF!

[@Christoph22KakaFan]

you think it had straight 30fps on ps2 😂😂😂😂😂😂 go back and ay it now

[@user-vx1jj1lf6v]

@@Christoph22KakaFan i don't need to add in to my 200 hours gameplay to know. I don't think it ran straight 30 fps. I don't think it dropped to the point where it ruined the experience either. The 14 year old me back then never cared anyway. And it sure as hell more fun than your anthem and fallout 76.

[@redzyakuza]

@@Christoph22KakaFan I dont even know what fps is back then, the only thing i remember is how awesome this game was

[@user-vx1jj1lf6v]

@Cyberdemon Mike cool

[@redzyakuza]

@Cyberdemon Mike tbh, i rather be blind today too.. so i can enjoy the game to the fullest .

[@Horrorfreak86]

Ich liebe Digital Foundry!!!

[@frostygraybob]

do i dare tripple dip on the switch version?... technically quadrupal since i played the original

[@mtlvmpr]

I've played FFXII probably for 50h or more. I had no idea it has a Diablo-style transparent map...

[@jordanking3331]

Its new

[@MoeMalik]

The mid-game job switching update sounds pretty sweet, they need to update the PS4 with it

[@sladey21]

@@caseypenk it's not a bug though just quality of life, I bet they patch it when sales start to slow down on xbox and switch

[@RandomShinigami7]

X/X2, XII, and VIII Remastered are all currently on sale on the Switch eShop. Gotta admit I'm real tempted to get them. I had X on PS2 but could never really got into it, but I never tried VIII or XII because I didn't like the look of them. That's changed now though, I now know that looks aren't everything when it comes to games...

[@hkoizumi3134]

You know what's funny about this game in terms of resolution? This game fully supports triple monitor mode in surround on the PC. And yes, the UI correctly adjusts without modding it. I know it's unnecessary to play at triple monitor but damn this game is amazingly immersive when monitors are surrounding you.

[@bowlofrice1006]

That's it! I'm getting the Switch version!

[@VictorGonzalez-vj6jy]

SE needs to give us a kingdom hearts full collection on Switch!

[@mikkelstrumer8628]

Exlude 3. Game is so terrible

[@ShMartinJo]

So I’m guessing for FFX/2 the FMV files are still rendered at a resolution of 1080p? How does that look when switching between 4K Gameplay graphics?

[@travistouchdown9759]

Hi Digitalfoundry, please make a comparison for World of Final Fantasy for all platforms

[@TheNewThrone]

Loving this on my xb1x. I can't believe how good this game still looks

[@Scitch-et4vk]

Lmao

[@serialkiller77]

Thank you Square for bringing these Final Fantasy games to Xbox. They look great on my X

[@naruhearts1]

I have the steel book PS2 version of this game still. Will probably get it on switch. On a sale though.

[@qwertimus]

Great video, as always! Unrelated though, are there any plans of a Dragon's Dogma for Switch analysis?

[@razielgrave224]

My favorite final fantasy, already bought 4 times. Twice on ps2, ce on ps4, and on steam.

[@elevated-170]

Waste of money

[@markxv2267]

Lol sucker

[@balaam_7087]

Raziel Grave it was the mountain peak before the drop off into the abyss that is FF13

[@773soccer]

Why would you buy it twice on ps2?

[@razielgrave224]

@@773soccer For the original release and the international job system version.

[@AbsurdoSol]

Thumbnail link? :) Edit: PS4 now has updated features!

[@mausmalone]

Is this video zoomed in and cropped for everybody else? I'm seeing graphs and logos cut off at the edges … this is happening for me in Edge where I get AVC1 from KZbin but not in Firefox where I get VP9.

[@bigguyalmaty]

Edge has 4k support on default, thats why.

[@Sky-8646]

Can’t wait for the switch pro.. hope the dock can upscale to 4k.

[@Marthastewart209.]

Hands down the best final fantasy, good to see everyone has the chance to play it

[@elandalousi6959]

Best FF ever !

[@naught_.]

It always astonishes me how Square Enix managed to develop and release Final Fantasy X just about a year after IX. I mean, the PS2 was just a little baby in 2001; how did they manage to master the hardware so fast and make X such a massive improvement over IX?

[@FelixS.]

X an improvement over IX? IX rapes X aka one way simulator without even trying.

[@marlboroman847]

Felix S. The linear gameplay and the active story telling made X better than IX. And let's not forget Blitzball the single greatest mini game in FF history.

[@FelixS.]

Marlboro Man Final Fantasy IX beats X in all aspects. X is the Alpha Version of XIII and by that the beginning of the downfall of FF. It is linear, easy, badly written and started the generic realistic look of future FF games. It also has no real cities or places to explore. FFIX is the epitome of Final Fantasy, even Sakaguchi himself considers IX as the ultimate Final Fantasy Game. X does not hold a candle.

[@marlboroman847]

Felix S. You must be wearing a helmet to think IX is the epitome of FF. VII stands at the top by far and then I would have to give it to either V or X. IX wasn't even better than VIII but I must admit VIII was pretty damn good. Also it was XI and XII that turned it into a generic series. I quit buying after XII and I stopped having any hope for the series after XIII. I haven't even played the new one because I don't even want to waste my time and I am sure they will ruin the remake of VII too.

[@FelixS.]

Marlboro Man VII is the most famous one but the fact you being not able to distinguish between popularity and quality already disqualifies your statement. VI eg is so far above VII it is absolutely ridiculous.

[@dragonwario1123]

So is the Switch version a 864p render or 1080p render in docked mode? The bit at 02:22 and 05:37 were a bit confusing.

[@TheShawVMedia]

Those were two different games. The first was FFX (10) while the second was FFXII (12).

[@dragonwario1123]

Oh, I get it now. Thank you for clarifying :)

[@dthomasfromnc]

I'm here pretty early. Let's see how this Switch version holds up DF style.

[@Moothead2]

Might have considered double dipping on the Switch if it wasn't so God damn expensive. £44.99 is robbery for a 13 year old game remaster that can be had for £11.99 brand new from Amazon on PS4.

[@CroneRaven1810]

Yeah.. It's doesn't even start at 30....

[@Ghuze_]

Just wait a couple of months and the price will probably go down a lot like all Square Enix games do.

[@TheL1arL1ar]

Ghuze I dunno..this is Nintendo after all..I just got one last month and I fucking love it. I seem to be playing it the most at home and I’m a Sony fan with 3 vitas 2 psp ps4,ps3,ps2. Hybrid console for me is the future..I don’t care if it isn’t the most powerful. I already purchased 3 games that I own on my ps4. I like the mobile aspect of it..plus with 4 kids I don’t have to worry about taking over a TV. But yeah it’s pricier because it’s Nintendo..launch games that are big are still 60. I want dragon ball fighter 60 on the e shop. Under 40 during Sony sale..payday 2 I got during a flash sale for under 10.(ps4).switch version 50. Resident evil 4,0,part 1 remaster. Are all 30 each and they are coming out later this month. Dragon Quest builders is about 50 on switch..and I purchased that game on launch for vita, and it was 40. That being said people think 300 for switch but realistically..I got a switch new and Zelda with taxes about 425..then my console charging port broke about 2 weeks later..I got it exchanged at GameStop..and purchased the extended warranty(30) because I can just turn it in there instead of calling Nintendo and shipping it. 64 GB memory because the internal memory was already gonna be maxed with Zelda patch..fortnite..revelations 2. (25) So about $475 total for me but if you don’t want warranty then subtract 30 but u will definitely need an sd card.

[@iKickBullies]

@@Ghuze_ FFXII hasn't been too quick to become a giveaway like FFX. Think it's because FFX is on everything from PS3, Vita, PS2, PS4, PC, Switch, Xbone while FFXII was PS2 and the PS4 and PC now. It's first rerelease. I think it'll be atleast a year before it'll get a perma drop. It maybe on a sale later this year though

[@sladey21]

£35*

[@tero581]

Was hoping you guys would cover some of the 4K patches X360 games are getting on the X.

[@neosin2638]

OBSIDIAN BORN such as???

[@TeamRocketHQR]

Why would you want a 540p game upscaled to 2160p anyway?

[@anthonyreynoza8535]

@@TeamRocketHQR because it looks amazing i think you will be surprised o thought the same thing gears 3 and skate 3 look amazing

[@ApoQChile]

@@TeamRocketHQR what? are you serious?

[@jsward96]

@@TeamRocketHQR It's not upscaled, the game is rendering at 3x it's original resolution on each axis (total 9x.)

[@CronoBreaker]

I have this game on ps4 and ff zodiac age same, so both run at 1080p? On ps4

[@IIMANIXII]

one of my top 3 FF games i got the PC version which is NOICE!

[@johanarvedal9741]

best one then switch on the go..

[@UrdnotWrex88]

Both games look decent on Switch, but there's no way I'm paying £45 each for these ports. I'll bite when they come down to £25.

[@cliffturbo2146]

You can get a PS4 version if you want. They are very cheap.

[@cliffturbo2146]

@@geert574 It is still a new console, so the prices on those games won't go down anytime soon.

[@ad1onOW]

CliffTurbo no he’s right in fact games are worse and more expensive like mortal kombat costing £55 while the other versions are £50 something I really don’t like about the switch

[@UrdnotWrex88]

@@ad1onOW I paid £38 for Mortal Kombat 11 on Switch at launch, it's all about finding the best place.

[@danielpons2484]

@@geert574 Nintendo Games maybe, but the others yes

[@LucDutra92]

How is it possible that a game of 2006 can't run at 4k 60fps on X and Pro? Even Nathan Drake Collection runs at 60fps on base PS4 and those are games from the previous generation with lots of improvements to the visuals.

[@kcfilmstudio]

PC got you covered!

[@Mendinso]

PS2 games are notorious for having difficulties being ported to modern platforms, so while one could argue some optimization problems with this game, it's really the fact that it's root is a PS2 that is causing these issues. PS3 ports to other platforms have similar issues, but it's largely more CPU related, where PS2 is more GPU and CPU related code problems being translated onto other platforms. Switch also has the extra bonus that it's also being translated to ARM going from x86 from PS2's architecture, so I'm not totally shocked of the resolution issues there, on top of the already difficulties with porting PS2 code. Honestly, the only real way they could really "optimize it", per say, would be if the entire game was a total rewrite, both for the graphical back end, and the base code that is running the game. And realistically, that's outside of the budget and scope of doing a port of this nature. It's not really a defense, mind you, but trying to understand why these difficulties exist.

[@kevboard]

PS2 games used the emotion engine's features and are therefore not as easy to port as you might think. a really high quality port by a studio like Blurpoint that has a higher budget would easily be able to run at 60 even on Switch. but square cheaps out and only does the minimal effort needed to get them running. so, basically, this is a pretty low budget project and the team who ported the game didn't have a lot to work with so they did what they could with the PS2 code they had.

[@xKillZone99]

It runs on Xbox one x at 4k 60 fps

[@johanarvedal9741]

for SE suck. They cant make great games at 9 anymore..

[@Dknightxs]

I am thinking of getting a switch version

[@Frellyouall]

I've owned this game on PS2 and PS4 for a few years. I've yet to play it.

[@anasbakhit4303]

they had a new game plus on the XBONE and switch? I really hope these would comes to the ps4 as an update patch.

[@solonepeon5805]

Of course it will. They are just waiting until the other ver of the games to sell good enough before they release a patch for the PS4 because if they did it the same day they know fans would do damage control to affect the other games from selling. This is how 3rdP's max out sales for their games.

[@anasbakhit4303]

@@solonepeon5805 they released World of Final Fantasy Maxima on the switch and XBONE and at the same time the ps4 and PC original versions received the Maxima update patch.

[@AbsurdoSol]

It’s been updated:)

[@anasbakhit4303]

@@AbsurdoSol yeah I got the news, I know the no job changing is originally came from the Zodiac Age Japanese version of the ps2's but who the hell thought that this idea is cool and they went with it on the ps4 and PC versions? I remember playing this game first on the ps2, it was the English NA version and all of the characters have the ability to use any kind of weapons or black or white magic with now restrictions as long as you unlock the gumbit to the said weapon, armor or magic, when I played the ps4 version ( before patch ) it felt like a downgrade in comparison.

[@brizcorp]

Xbox One X should've easily been able to do 1800p or even 4k at 60fps. Disappointed with the 1080p result.

[@Fahad-up9cl]

Especially a ps2 game

[@Relic_cileR]

Maybe it will be updated at a later date like they did with the pro version. But at 60FPS it’s still nice.

[@SotNist]

60 fps is cool and will look sharper in motion, like Hitman 2 on X or SotC on Pro. I would choose it over 1440p, and will buy again. But I feel like 4K should have been a possible option here for a PS2 remaster, since FF13 from 360 looks incredible in 4K through backwards compatibility. However, I remember the PC release was really just upscaling 2K textures, so it would never be true 4K, but the aliasing, allowing 60 fps and post processing FX could work wonders.

[@BenoHourglass]

I'm a bit confused, they talk about the game being 4k at 1:58, but then state that it's 1080p later. Same for the switch, stating that it's 720p/1080p, then stating that it's actually 80% later. Edit: They were talking about FFX.

[@Relic_cileR]

BenoHourglass He was talking about FF X being 4K.

[@kennethfegley7552]

I miss 12. might have to pick this up. shame about oneX not supporting 4k. never feld the need to play FF in 60 fps

[@MultiBigAndy]

Honestly its on the developers for that.. They are the ones to whether add more time to implement 4k resolution or not.

[@DeckerShadoGaming]

Please please please, do a video on Saints Row 3 Switch VS PC, 360, PS3 and XBO Backward Compatibility. Mainly because I'm sick of trying to look up stuff in excitement for it coming to my handheld of choice, only to find a disturbing number of people who seem to think the 360 and PS3 versions looked/ran better. Yeah, Switch got some problems, as we see with the video footage that's come out prior to the day 1 patch, but even then it's general performance is clearly better than the PS3 version.

[@lasthand3428]

Getting the Xbox version since it looks better!!!!

[@Feesh116]

I just bought this again on Switch cause it was on sale. So I have now bought this game four times. 🤦🏻‍♂️ PS2, PS4, PC, Switch. I don't know why I'm like this. I also tend to buy games for switch that I've bought before so devs that I like will bring all the games to it.

[@jaspal99]

You are me

[@plastikman7788]

Hilarious. I do this exact same thing. I rebuy all games for switch even though I’m PC Master Race. Oddly enough, the longer I’ve owned the switch, the more I’ve been exclusively playing on it and moving away from PC.

[@kres6009]

I got the Switch version for FFXII, but planning to get a Steelbook version of the PS4 version since it looks great. Got FFX on Steam but will get it on Switch instead lol

[@jeremywilliams4522]

Just picked it up yesterday on switch and it's crack cocaine!

[@TheDarq0n]

Where's my PSVita vs Switch comparison yo? 😁 Great video Tom! You are awesome!

[@ZuneGuy1118]

I like my PC version. It offers the absolute best in performance and graphic fidelity, I do want that update though.

[@random_gamer_guy82]

Can you play it on the toliet though???

[@featherinescat]

It does not have new improved New Game+ like Switch/Xbox

[@treybyrd3332]

@@featherinescat yes it does

[@featherinescat]

@@treybyrd3332 I meant the new improved Ng+ Improved 'New Game+': Allows users to start the game with party members at level 90 and carry over some items like weapons, magic and gil obtained during previous playthroughs. It also has License Reset Function: By talking to Clan Centurio's leader Montblanc in Rabanastre, players can reset and change their party member's jobs, allowing them to customize the jobs of their party as desired. · Additional Gambit Sets: Gambits allow players to customize their party's AI. Players can now create three unique sets, allowing players to switch between sets for different situations, such as map exploration or boss fights.

[@SturmAH]

Oh boy, I really want it portable, but I really like 60fps. ^_^'

[@fastica]

As much as I love 60FPS, being able to play this game around my house it's amazing. Load times are amazing BTW.

[@sladey21]

@@fastica what's handheld look like? Any noticeable blur

[@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701]

So the most modern yet really GREAT looking version of FFXII is on BASE XBOXONE!? AWESOME!!

[@johanarvedal9741]

Oh you mean pc 4k and 3440x1440p and mods on Nexus that blow xbox one x away. HDR in this game is waste of time. Oh rtx2060 in 4k with ryzen 2600x i5 your pick. Get DQ11 at 4k too and Ni no kuni 2. And you can play 21:9 3440x1440p 32:9 5120x1440 on FF14 high too .

[@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701]

Sry this is a video about the latest FFXII versions on consoles with features no other system has so no PC for me thanks Bro

[@jessepotter365]

I bought the Switch version and noticed right away it wasn't native resolution. I was waiting for this video to confirm. I don't think the similarities between the Xbox One X and Switch versions has to do so much with the Switch's capabilities, but more so with the lack of interest in porting to an American console. This has been proven time and time again with Japanese games being brought to the Xbox.

[@cole9693]

Portable players got it good, going through the great crystal on the go, not having to sit in front of a TV going through it. Hate that place

[@melxb]

u can emulate ps2 and ffxii on phones too, well if u got a good phone like the galaxy s10

[@superbowyiming]

@@melxb no bro. The Ps2 emu on Android stole the code from pcsx2, and they r in trouble now. Also even pcsx2 only has 5% of game running on perfect stats. I've tried Android ps2 n it's a nightmare even running games like SMT3. The PS2 emu is just never completed, at least much worse than dolphin

[@melxb]

@@superbowyiming yea but things are getting better and there are many more ps2 emulators, so what if they use source code...also im sure u tried it on older devices, where as on the new 855 phones it runs many games amazingly well, check some videos out...just amazing how far we've come is all...and that's just brute force no optimizing and such

[@melxb]

@@superbowyiming it even took pc for the longest to emulate ps2 and now phones are doing it ya know, even running dophin gamecube wii, 3ds and such at amazing speeds

[@superbowyiming]

@@melxb nope. The pcsx2 team is not plan to do it. And u know what u can't trust videos. My phone is a high spec n GC runs great however sucks when it comes to PS2 even on the original resolution

[@mikedronslu4287]

DF , please do switch Dragon Dogma.

[@Hijynx87]

I already have it on ps4, kinda want it on switch though.

[@Alcahest]

Is it possible to set audio to Japanese on FFXII for Switch ?

[@ElvisMarrero]

Yes

[@shuntarofurukawa5577]

Love the switch content. Keep it up! Also could you guys consider looking at the DLC game for xenoblade chronicles 2?

[@animeeddie2104]

Shame the Switch version doesn't run at 1080p but as you say, looking at it, I can hardly tell that it's not.

[@holladaycubed]

EddieXXI it is running at 1080 docked and 720 portable. They say it in the video

[@animeeddie2104]

@@holladaycubed 5:20

[@xx-ri8ib]

but the framerate of switch version is very smooth without spikes. better than ps4 version. why not 1080p? one reason is that: If the dev team implements 1080p on switch, many vfx effects may have to be redesigned. because these vfx are designed for ps2 only. The vfx extremely use up ps2 capability. And the ps2 architecture is very different from modern hardware. it takes a lot of gpu computing resources to replay these vfx on switch.

[@ddnava96]

What's the difference between "Original" and "OST" in Music? I mean, OST means "Original Sound Track", so I'm really curious about it

[@patronsaintgains5895]

Ost is CD qualities of the original soundtrack so flac midi basically. There's really no reason to not do the remastered tracks though they overall the are the best sounding fully orchestrated versions of the original midis. No new arrangements like they did in 10

[@SeaToSkyImages]

Great video as usual, DF. Thanks for your hard work. It's pretty crazy that both console refreshes can't run FFXII (a PS2 game) at 60fps/4K. I mean, the PS4 PRO can only do 1440p at 30fps. Both the PS4 and X1 should be able to run this game at 1080p/60fps, no? The game is ancient. Bleh.

[@diarmiutquijano]

Not trying to defend it, but could be that the reason to not upgrading it to 60fps is the engine itself. Some games are made with the fps in mind. But yeah, it should have been a remake from the ground and up.

[@brentbourgoine5893]

@@diarmiutquijano Problem being that Square's philosophy on remakes holds to a *much* higher standard than remasters, based on what they've said in the past regarding the FFVII remake. We'd still be waiting, and FFX/FFXII would probably be PS5/XBTwo releases at best. Still, I'd absolutely love to see a 1080p/60 patch for the PS4 Pro with the new additions.

[@leftyfourguns]

Do Dragons Dogma Switch!

[@Vincornelis]

Very suprised Switch doesn’t hit a full 1080p resolution. Come on the PS2 is ancient. The Switch has over a 165 times as many flops than the PS 2. What did they add in the remaster to eat up this many resources.

[@shaundavidssd]

Lighting ,textures etc lol

[@Vincornelis]

Shaun Davids well obviously but it’s still a game developed for a system that’s well over 100 times less powerful than the switch. Hitting Full HD on a game this old shouldn’t be an issue.

[@renatoramos8834]

Poor optimization. Switch has the raw power needed to run this at even 4k.

[@XgamerdaveX]

Your massively overstating the power of the Switch. The Switch is only one generation ahead of the ps2 in terms of power.

[@Vincornelis]

XgamerdaveX No it’s not. The Switch is more poweful than the PS3 and Xbox 360 and only slightly behind the original base Xbox One.

[@Kaynos]

Another difference you cannot trick your way (RNG) to get the seitengrat on the xbox or switch.

[@M3TR01DFANBOY]

2:22 he says switch is fixed 1080p but then at 5:38 he says its usually at 864p. Can someone explain?

[@SneakyF]

Final fantasy 10 is 1080p and 12 is 864p docked and 640? Undocked

[@joesterling4299]

The game is rendered at 80% of display resolution. So, it's rendered at 864p, and upscaled to 1080p.

[@SneakyF]

@@joesterling4299 Thank you. And i think that's fine for a game like that, it's really pretty and the resolution will look really good in 5 years still.

[@Hmbs271]

But if they prioritized image quality on the xonex how would you be able to enjoy it when turning the camera at 30fps and everything becomes a muddy mess in the background? I'll much rather take 60fps any day in a game.

[@RicochetForce]

Agreed. Even in some slow scenes in the comparison you could see the image turned into a mess of slightly visible older frames when a character moves versus the much cleaner look of 60fps.

[@Evil_Chronic]

If that was the case then PC is better, not to mention you can use mods.

[@RicochetForce]

@@Evil_Chronic Oh PC is still the best way to play this. There was a recent mod that completely redid how techniks and the like work. We just want the new stuff from this version patched into the PC version as well.

[@86lanzo]

The switch is becoming a must buy console...even for somebody like me who don't like most Nintendo games...it may be the best handheld ever

[@raiden_pb]

My iPhone is a better handheld than switch

[@TheL1arL1ar]

Orlanzo Telfer I prefer Sony..the last Nintendo console I truly loved was the DS lite. I don’t really prefer their 1st party lineup..and I think smash and mk8 are meh. And it might be my most favorite console because of how it’s structured.

[@YUGAMISEKAI]

@@raiden_pb *worse

[@raiden_pb]

@@YUGAMISEKAI fortnite on iPhone: 1080p 60fps Fortnite on switch: 720p 30fps

[@borisdg]

@@raiden_pb Fortnite on Switch has all effects from consoles + moving grass and so. IOS doesnt. Its barebones there.

[@elcanalsegaquenoconocenidi5804]

I buy FFX for switch and XII for one X... I need those 60 FPS and 4KKKK

[@pizzagateisreal]

I thought there was no 4k on the x with final fantasy 10?

[@GregCaldwellPlays]

Got FF10/10-2 on Switch cause I wanted it on a 32 gb cartridge. No shitty download if you import it from japan; both games are on a 32 card no download required

[@caranaworld]

Same. It was almost the exact same price on Amazon Japan too.

[@Nuvendil]

Can you tell me what the price was, in dollars? I'm curious how much of a difference it made.

[@caranaworld]

@@Nuvendil I paid a 50.19 in dollars for the game. 3.00 for the shipping, So 53.19 in total.

[@Nuvendil]

@@caranaworld then why the hell isn't it 32GB world wide?! That's the same darn price as the Xbone, $50! This really does make it seem like skimping on carts is purely just them hoping to play on people's *perceptions* of cart costs rather than an actual concern that they can't make money with the 32GB.

[@caranaworld]

@@NuvendilCapcom is really good at it too. The megaman collections aren't that big and half of them are download. M11 and the amiibo didn't even get a physical eu release. I think part of the part download has to do with the idea that you won't be able to resell it so publishers think they'll lose less money too.

[@ThoughTMusic]

I literally only have an Xbox One X and a Switch, so this video will decide which game I get and which I avoid. After video Edit: This is a huge win for the Switch.

[@sladey21]

What swayed you?

[@ThoughTMusic]

@@sladey21 For me, it was the fact that visually they look rather similar minus some environment textures. I like the idea of 60fps, but turn based games, even ones that have a faster, more action based battle system, are totally fine with me at 30fps. I also tend to play RPGs more if I have them on the go, so the fact that this is visually close to the Xbox One X version but I can take it on the GO is a giant win.

[@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701]

FFXII looks AMAZING on Xbox One S!!

[@Ammothief41]

Holy crap. KZbin's 4k60 option actually looks like halfway decent 1080p video. For the first time ever I can actually see the differences in the switch and xbox one x versions. I didn't think youtube had it in them.

[@iKickBullies]

right!? It's ridiculous that they haven't got the 4K videos at better quality yet. I legit use it as away to see proper 1080p videos now

[@rahnyc4]

you could always do that. look at the PC comparison videos vs the ps4/xbox one versions of multiplayer games. Youll notice the difference in FPS between the two.