4K UltraHD Blu-ray vs 4K Streaming | What’s the Difference?

Ok folks, let’s get a little nerdy here with some in depth talk about how 4K streaming and 4K UltraHD Blu-ray differ from each other. Which gives the better experience? Why is one better than the other? What are the limitations of streaming? Find out in this video!
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[@michaelw6193]

Nerd talk can also be translated to “properly informed”

[@johnwilliamson2207]

As a longtime home theater lover one of my biggest fears is that streaming will overtake physical media rendering physical media obsolete and I'll then be stuck with this compressed garbage all because the public at large doesn't know or, worse, care how inferior streaming is to a disc.

[@miller-joel]

The biggest difference is that your disc is not going to disappear from your shelf, or get edited, or any of that crap. You are not at the mercy of the provider.

[@LILGHETTI]

Streaming is not always reliable depending on your internet, I prefer physical Disc!

[@intense79nick]

Same. My internet is too unreliable between outages or dips in download speeds. I'm paying for internet that should theoretically never give me an issue so matter what I'm streaming/downloading/playing even all 3 at once, but once a week or more I'm having to deal with something.

[@johnleone1996]

@@intense79nick Same here

[@jackrosati1438]

I already knew that streams were lower quality but this is a nice video that breaks down exactly how much lower they are.

[@ferrari77773]

Audio difference between streaming and bluray is night-and-day. Bluray obviously is vastly superior. Just to the naked-eye, the video between the two is debatable. Most people don't sit close enough to the tv to see a discernible difference.

[@michaelfoster3441]

100 percent true , i had the apple tv tried some 4k movies isnt the same 4k bluray and also regular bluray upscaled to 4k from my oppo 203 kills apple tv ,Netflix and Amazon .

[@na_98_45]

Man keep it up don't stop your videos are helpful and joyful

[@Saturn2888]

In past comments, I complained about how you a said UHD discs instead of Blu-ray. I was wrong. They're the same laser, but the tech is different. It's not the same standard, and UHD, the standard, requires both 4K and HDR. That changes everything. It also can't be played on a regular Blu-ray player even though most computer drives can read them. Wow. So much I didn't know.

[@beartube86]

I Tell every one streaming will always be behind physical media 📀📀

[@currahee556]

I have a huge amount of movies that are special to me, and based on my MOOD, I want to see IMMEDIATELY. Streaming services don't give me that.

[@FenderStrat19711]

Great video. Today, the guy at Best Buy tried to convince me that the video quality of streaming content was just as good as what comes off a 4K Blu Ray. I respectfully disagreed with him. Then he tried to explain that the video content was just as good, but the audio content would be better on a 4K disc. Maybe it's because he was also trying to sell me a Roku - although I would think that I would not need a Roku if bought a new LG OLED, as I thought LG included all those streaming services already. Anyway, I digress.... the way you pointed out the sheer numbers, the volume of data coming from the 4K player to the 4K TV made so much sense. Of course the streaming service cannot keep up with that kind of bit rate. Thanks for posting!!!

[@JeffRauseo]

Yeah, that guy at Best Buy had no clue lol. It’s not even close when it comes to quality! There’s so much misinformation out there so I wish the people who worked at places like Best Buy and say these things did their research.

[@kpag3030]

This is why I wish I could find a 4k blu ray player around me right now. No one has them. I’ve been trying to find one. Worse comes to worse, I’ll just wait for the PS5 to come out

[@Murphys_Law9]

Streaming is always gonna be king because of the convenience. It will get better in the future.

[@Dreyz-pg2zz]

Yeah but that all it has

[@Kevinb1821]

Most of the time I stream but if it’s movie I really like I always buy 4K blu Ray now. The quality is so amazing. Also for anyone trying to see the difference on KZbin. You can’t. You have to see a 4K blu Ray in person on a good 4K tv. The first time you see a 4K blu Ray in person. You’ll be blown away.

[@snowatom]

One thing is specification, another is what is actually visible. I have no issues with internet speed, as I have fiber 1Gbit at home. And I can see no difference in picture quality when streaming from iTunes vi physical. There is arguable a small difference in sound quality, that is the physical advantage.

[@Dando-1983]

Also makes sense now why I have not been wowed by Netflix 4K HDR ^__^=

[@robertt9342]

Standard blurays bit rates aren't directly comparable as they are encoded in a different and less advanced format. The encoding is more computationally expensive, but it allows for more information per bit. Unfortunately the more advanced compressional so has to encode more information with a greater number of pixels. So while the bluray will have still less compression artifacts then current streams, it doesn't have that linear relationship with bit rate as the UHDdisc/4K stream would.

[@stevesavanna]

ITunes 4K streams at a much higher bit rate than any other streaming services. I’ve put my 4K UHD disc side by side with iTunes on two LG Oleds and could not tell the difference at all. Audio was the only area I could discern. I was very impressed with iTunes. I can easily tell the difference with bad compression on Netflix and amazon. iTunes is getting 30+ mbps and has very good compression

[@hardkore628]

Man I really wish I knew about this video before I streamed the 4k version of Black Hawk Down on Amazon.

[@gabtand]

but having a hard disk with a 4k film would be the same with the disk or is a difference?

[@jponchor9792]

It should be as long as you have all the data of the disc in the HDD or SDD

[@gabtand]

@@jponchor9792 Of course, but I don't think is allowed to copy it, unless you own it.

[@texranger1012]

I enjoy doing both physical, streaming media

[@glock35gr]

What about rakuten TV? For sure it will not be as good as the physical disk, but how is it compared to Netflix or other streaming services? Thank you.

[@SamLovesMovies25]

One time, I saw a movie on a streaming service that I was interested in watching so I kept it in mind. However, the VERY NEXT DAY when I went to watch it, it was gone and not available any more! Also, the other night I was watching a film on a streaming service, and despite the fact that I have a good internet connection that typically gives me no problems and the fact that I have a fairly powerful computer that should be able to handle it just fine (the TV app for the streaming service didn't work right btw so I had to pull it up on my laptop and hook it up to the TV), the quality STILL kept dropping and turning the film into a pixelated, blurry mess which was incredibly distracting and ruined the experience! No thank you, I will buy the Blu Ray of that movie and actually be able to enjoy it next time!

[@Wyckerman]

For me, picture and sound quality are equally as important as the film itself so I will always choose Bluray or 4K Bluray over digital.

[@GamingandFrightened]

I have discs but I almost never watch them. I usually watch the digital copy

[@ericmatthews8497]

@@GamingandFrightened My digital copies are just a back up to my disk collection. VUDU and Movies Anywhere are probably going to fail at some point. Apple TV is the way to go for longevity.

[@SquidkidMega]

Streaming is to movies what mp3 was to music, sacrificing quality for the sake of convenience

[@bgp001]

You speak the truth!

[@PickeringSamuel]

MP3 320kbps is pretty good audio quality. But services like Spotify use 96kbps and it sounds awful through proper speakers!! So I blame streaming services over MP3

[@samuelchan9501]

@@PickeringSamuel if you actually download the songs, you get 320 kps bitrate from spotify

[@robertt9342]

PickeringSamuel . Bit rates aren't directly comparable when dealing with different compression encodings.

[@conchobar]

Sadly when consumers are forced to choose between quality and convenience, convenience ALWAYS wins.

[@YoshiExcel]

Wow, you answered a ton of questions I had regarding streaming vs. 4k Blu-Ray. Lot's of things I was unsure about now make sense since you explained compression audio and video compression really well. Buying physical media is expensive, but I may start getting some of my movies on sales and even pre owned.

[@terryritivoy6220]

I stream movies when I travel. I play my physical media when I'm at home. Physical media makes your home theater investment worth the money you spent.

[@tinishmaheshwari6575]

You can rip your discs and store them locally, you will not have to deal with streaming.

[@terryritivoy6220]

@@tinishmaheshwari6575 I do have my personal collection ripped to local HDDs. I meant I use MoviesAnywhere or Vudu to access my digital copies when I travel.

[@tinishmaheshwari6575]

@@terryritivoy6220 well, you didn't mention that

[@MrLianGuan]

Some of the 4K blu ray offer free digital version to download.

[@razorramon123]

Owning the 4k or Blu Ray discs also offers the complete experience of special features, etc. A good model to follow is purchase your favourite movies or tv series on discs and then stream the rest.

[@meritofapproval]

☝🏾

[@DriveupLife22]

Or stream nothing. Ever.

[@thebest12700]

@@DriveupLife22 when im on the go i stream. i take my firestick with me to stream sports lol

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

"offers the complete experience" FALSE (mind you, I collect 4K Blu-ray disc movies). Example(s): Certain Marvel/Star Wars movies on Disney+ have IMAX Enhanced aspect ratios and Dolby Vision support. The 4K Blu-ray disc versions of those movies do NOT have those two things.

[@PinkstonFilms]

That’s what I do… 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽

[@LukeT84]

For me, the main difference is I can't relax and enjoy 4k streaming because when the quality is good you constantly worry about it buffering and I have good internet. Plus, it's never really true 4k, it's been compressed and upscalled. Physical media will always win quality wise.

[@rolandrohde]

I have realised, that the Streaming Quality is more than good enough for my screen size and viewing distance. It's often more the quality of the source that holds things back. Even FullHD Streams often look better than UHD Bluray if the Source material isn't good on the 4K disc. If the disc contains a grainy, dark, etc. movie, then all the high bitrate will be doing is showing the film grain in full, HDR enhanced glory. A properly clean, well made film will look good in the Stream as well. The only thing is, some TVs tend to show posterisation in Streams, and those are less obvious in UHD Blurays.

[@AztecaAguilar04]

@@rolandrohde Amazon 4K original shows look really good on my 4K SONY BRAVIA tv, It just depends what source you are using. Some other apps don't look as impressive

[@MetalexoAlberto]

I've got news for you. 4K discs are compressed too and are also upscaled in many cases.

[@integra8502]

For Streaming....We would have been better off keeping 1080 panels with a High bitrate for streaming 1080P content.

[@integra8502]

4K is it Big Marketing scheme !!

[@knowledgeunderstanding4192]

Lol. The answer is night and day. It's the SOUND QUALITY. Lossless vs lossy. Compressed vs uncompressed. No comparison!!

[@adriannn3720]

Plus, you own the movie. 20 dollars for a movie I love, to be able to own it permanently, is a great thing.

[@imogenaris1697]

Your channel is a godsend. Nothing beats a 4k disc or standard blu ray disc, compared to streaming, in receiving the complete visual & audio experience!

[@txag007]

Only one element beats a 4K disc and that can be Kaleidescape! Yes crazy expensive but they do provide downloads of uncompressed audio and video on a ton of titles.

[@fanofretrotechnology3802]

i agree

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

"in receiving the complete visual & audio experience" FALSE (mind you, I collect 4K Blu-ray disc movies). Example(s): Certain Marvel/Star Wars movies on Disney+ have IMAX Enhanced aspect ratios and Dolby Vision support. The 4K Blu-ray disc versions of those movies do NOT have those two things.

[@JEdmund81]

Really appreciate you breaking this down with numbers! Can't argue with the superior quality. I can tell a HUGE difference in the audio quality on my home theater when I'm playing from discs. It is so much richer. I love physical media and really hope the studios keep producing it for us in the now niche market.

[@ricardomunoz7683]

Physical Media I love buying blu ray and 4k movies physical media forever 💯

[@Xevvo]

I know this video is 2 years old now but this is a very insightful explanation of the differences between streaming and physical media. I had no idea why blu-rays were still around but you taught me a lot. Don't think I'll move over completely but I'd definitely like to buy some of my favourites on blu-ray at least (4K a bit too pricey 😄). Thank you.

[@dr.emilschaffhausen4683]

I have a 100mb/s connection and I always prefer my Oppo 205 and discs over streaming.

[@keithm4953]

I'm glad there was discussion of sound quality - I have a decent speaker setup and want the best quality possible being fed into them. Maybe a separate video, but I dislike streaming because of 'content control' - these services change around and you may or may not be able to migrate your stuff; even if you download there's the risk of hard drive failure. A disc will always be there.

[@Jshanks19]

Keith M with a new atmos setup, I appreciated this info too.

[@MrCREWCRUSHIN95]

Also lossy audio has the same effect as having a compressor/limiter on the audio. So the audio will neither get too soft or too loud. Lossless audio has full range dynamics.

[@RRK1965]

And the Hollywood studios are considering to end the production of physical media, so I’ve heard. More people are watching movies online. Picture and sound quality are not important to them. So sad.

[@tinishmaheshwari6575]

They're my friends. They watch a GoT episode in 480p HDTV. God knows how can they watch a show with great visuals just in 480p that too HDTV. It's like an insult to the show. I downloaded them in 1080p WEBDL through torrent. Size 3 or4 gigs.

[@meritofapproval]

Facts.

[@MrCREWCRUSHIN95]

They like money - and physical media is still a very lucrative arena.

[@MentalDeviant]

The majority of people are ignorant. And just really don't care to know.

[@Aloewells]

@@tinishmaheshwari6575 IT'S happens only in INDIA, where internet is used by many members and becomes slow. BTW I watch only downloaded High BitRate video, If its WORTH WATCHING.

[@krjohnson29]

I'm sad when they put Dolby vision on streaming but you can only get regular HDR10 on disk 😢 The Dolby vision version often looks better on my oled tv regardless of disk vs streaming... But the audio is always better on disc 🙂

[@moomcmoosson1992]

Streaming quality is really good nowadays, as long you don't know the difference, or have a small/shitty display. But even if A/V quality doesn't matter all that much to you, there is still the matter of missing out on a lot of stuff besides the mainstream that will probably never be on any streaming service. Or jump around from service to service because of licensing. I started collecting physcial media again this year and complement this with Amazon Prime Video and a month of Netflix here and there for stuff that i don't have or isn't out (and maybe won't ever be) yet on disc.

[@clydesalley]

Streaming quality is dependent on where you live and what service is available. And in the United States as compared to many other country we are woefully behind and will remain so because the FCC and the GOP in Congress have seen fit to basically let the telecom industry in this country run amuck and do what they want with no consequences.

[@AtomicAgePictures]

The bitrate of standard blu ray (1080p) maxes out at 40 mbps for video. Most movies on blu ray average around 25 mpbs. Its impossible for a standard blu ray to have a bitrate of 50 to 80 mbps.

[@craigbrown9940]

I am into Movies, I am into Home Theatre Movie experience, Subscribed.

[@LukeLovesRose]

We cannot lose our physical media. We cannot let them get away with "You will own nothing and you will be happy."

[@Rickyroo1980]

Long live physical media!!!

[@gregschmidt2256]

I'm sorry if someone else already clarified, but you are very wrong with much of your analysis. Yes, Netflix has a much lower bandwidth for streaming than a 4K player would provide. Color banding has more to do with 8 bit vs 10 bit (or higher sources.) color space. Also, every digital video stream is compressed currently - including the 4K disc. The codec matters the most here. Using a bit rate of 15 Mb/s with a VP8 codec, versus H.265 is night and day. In other words, bit rate is just one factor. A bit rate of 20 Mb/s with H.265 is far superior to a H.264 at 40 Mb/s (Most streaming services use H.264) Also, as I mentioned before, the color space is another factor. A 10 bit color space is far superior to an 8 bit when it comes to banding. Netflix mostly uses 8 bit. The biggest reason why streaming services aren't as good (video) is partially the bit rate, but it's also the codec and the color space / bits. It's a lot more complicated than just bits per sec. Lastly, you can absolutely download files that are just as good at the 4K discs. I have dozens of 4K discs, and when I view the files, they are rarely more than 50 GB in size. Once you remove unwanted audio, they are often no more than 30-40 GB in size. You are right Netflix and streaming services aren't as good as the native disc, but your reasons are incorrect / lacking critical details. I'm happy to help explain more if you wish. Not trying to be an ass - I like your channel and just want to make it better. Let me know if you want any more details.

[@pubertco]

Great video! I have a 5.2.2 home theater setup with pretty big speakers. My biggest struggle with streaming is the audio compression. The dynamic range is crushed... It's like the dialogue and the action scenes are almost at the same level. So if I get the volume where I like it for action, then the dialogue moments are way to loud.

[@davidevans4609]

A great video, thank you. I wish more people understood compression. They're just sold on 4k TVs but still buying DVDs or streaming their content.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

People that buy DVD's make me laugh because nowadays, most people who love watching video content own a 4K TV and therefore it baffles me that they don't take at least SOME advantage of their 4K TV by at least watching the 4K version of a movie even if it's heavily compressed streaming like Netflix. DVD's shouldn't even exist anymore. We're talking about 480p SD resolution. 🤯🤯🤯

[@franky-fr9ow]

Doesn't the player upscale the dvd though

[@robetclo2516]

I have always found the physical blu-ray to be superior for the picture quality compare to the streaming services. The bit rates ratio is the reason. Streaming is an alternative way to watch a movie and that way we can access a lot of titles and maybe we can find a movie that we will love a lot. That is when purschasing the title on Blu-ray or Blu-ray 4K will help you enjoy that title to the fullest and also owning an either 7.1 compatible Home Theater or a Dolby Atmos one also comes in line. I own only a 7.1 but when I compare my experience from streaming wich are Dolby Digital Plus (a lossly formart) I can only get a 5.1 soundtrack. When I buy a movie on blu-ray, I can get the 7.1 DTS-HD master audio or a Dolby TrueHD soundtrack with no compression. Netflix, Disney+, Amazon Prime Video and the others are for me an access to titles I can experience and then if I like them I then buy them and then I don't have to worry about a title to be deleted from any streaming service after that.

[@MistrZIGZAG]

The problem is that most people have $15 a month to spend on entertainment. Most people do not have $15 to spend on every movie they want to watch

[@eddiscus]

Agree with you 100%. Physical Media will always beat the quality of streamed content. Bandwidth is a cost that the providers keep an eye on for profitability. So with them it comes down to how much can they compress it before the viewers start noticing the artifacts. Some of the higher end displays are getting pretty good at fixing some of the issues but you cannot make gold out of lead. If the information is not there in the first place the correction algorithm is making a best guess at what it should be. Being that physical media takes up space as you collection grows i have invested in a Kaleidescape system. It offers the same, sometimes better quality than the original BluRay or 4K disk. They are not limited by the physical disk capacity. It is not a cheap investment but has its benefits in the long run. For example if you have a BluRay movie in your system and they release a remastered 4K version with Dolby Atmos Sound. Instead of having to purchase a complete new disk. They have the option for you to download the 4K version usually at a reduced cost compared to the Physical disk. If you are serious about Home Theater movie viewing check it out. www.kaleidescape.com/

[@KingOfHac]

I watched anime on Netflix a year ago. Yesterday I watched it at blu-ray quality 10bit 1080p on my LG C9 OLED tv. I was literally blown away. It's like when watching a 360 video on KZbin then ramping the quality to 4K. My plan for now is i will buy a high capacity hard disk to download all the movies/series/animes at blu-ray quality while still paying for the streaming services to support that industry.

[@MASKOAA]

Dont exaggerate the numbers effect on quality....7 or 10 times the bit rate will not transfer into an experience that is 7 or 10 times better.....just like how we are approaching a resolution on tvs with diminishing return. Also about color banding that will still be there depending on your tv no matter if you use disc or streaming....I know The Martian has it in the skyline depending on your set this is a processing limitation not just bandwidth.

[@MrCREWCRUSHIN95]

You have a shitty tv. No banding on my Sony Z9D with 4K blu ray with The Martian.

[@KennethKralyJr]

Great video. I have always thought the bitrate on discs Blu-ray and 4K will always be better than streaming. Physical Media all the way the way.

[@seankalimi]

most people cannot hear the difference in audio, most people don't have a really sophisticated sound system to utilized the lossless audio track on bluray. even people who have a great sound system usually need a great ear to hear the difference in audio quality difference. same with picture, most people dont have a really amazing tv with amazing picture quality. although picture quality is easier to tell... there is a point where you can't tell the difference between a REALLY GOOD LOSSY and lossless video.

[@DanPyjamas]

Exactly. Not all compression is created equally

[@BLUE992107]

Apple TV 4K is pretty close in quality to a UHD disc, Netflix is laughable but man I just got an Apple TV 4K and with the higher bit rate it shows how good it is. I am very Impressed watching it on my lg oled, and with my fast internet speed there’s no hick ups. Still disc will always be better but I’m amazed how good streaming quality is getting.

[@michaelfoster3441]

It wasnt no were near close enough for me , and i have to notch internet and the atmos on the apple tv was horrible , i gave the apple tv to a friend.

[@michaelfoster3441]

What i don't like about streaming you get you get you cant customize the picture settings to you want i took my oppo 203 to friends house and we customized the picture settings , after we done we video switch to comparison's he was blown away how much much better the picture quality. You don't get the different color spaces. So he bought a Panasonic 4k player with killer feature HDr optimizer which is a little better than my oppo with that turned on and leaps and bounds above apple tv.

[@michaelfoster3441]

@@ajmhobby Your right most don't care most people got a fire shit stick , what i have been doing is ripping all my Ultra Hd movies to mass hardrives, Using MKV 4k passthrough and Mp4 passthrough with dolby vision i can also rip the into HDR 10+. And 8k.

[@jdb9388]

hold my Apple TV the app came out for LG OLEDs 😂 HDR 4K looking glorious on the C9

[@TheEthNick]

It was more about audio for me during the BD days, but now with UHD & HDR, audio & picture are why I invest in physical media. Thanks for the vid, man 👍🏽

[@michaelw6193]

Don’t have to convince me...I’m a believer...been tryin to tell me friends for the longest that high end physical copy discs are the way to go...your sound bar and other audio equip will thank you!

[@suave617]

Bro you need to upgrade your router if you are getting such a low speed. And the Apple 4k does have an ethernet connection.

[@BrianWalstad]

I work in film and I bet you have movies in your collection I've worked on. I just want to say you're right and wrong about some of your information. You're kind of comparing apples and oranges. Blu-rays and 4K Blu-rays use the H.264 codec for compression and for over a year now Netflix (not sure about the others) stream H.265. H.265 is a far superior codec to H.264. H.265 does not have the macro blocking issues of H.264. The H.265 codec is more efficient. The same movie in H.264 is visually equivalent to H.265 at 1/3 the bitrate. Long sorry short is yes you are correct that Blu-rays and 4K Blu-rays are better quality than streaming, but it's not 8x better like you eluded to. It more like 2-3x better.

[@TheSiliconKid]

Actually, the codec used on 4K (UHD) Blu-ray discs is exclusively the H.265 codec. It's a requirement of the UHD disc standard. You will never find H.264 video on a 4K / UHD disc. 1080p Blu-ray discs, on the other hand, ONLY use the H.264 codec. www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/ultra-hd-blu-ray-specs-dates-and-titles/ "Ultra HD Blu-ray discs are encoded using the relatively new HEVC (also known as H.265) codec." www.videosolo.com/tutorials/dvd-vs-bluray-vs-4k.html

[@TheEthNick]

What is up with your wifi speeds man?! That’s tragic. I’m on a 50/20 connection & get ~45 over wifi. You shouldn’t be losing much over A/C wifi connection?

[@bigpete8567]

No reason to get that loss I agree, I get 50mb, I can sit next to my router and get 50mb on my phone. I can walk 15m away and still get 45mb

[@rodrigogonzalezbetancourt978]

This channel is PERFECT. Can't get enough of it, I've learned so much haha

[@GraceLifeMinistries]

Dude your router socks if that's what you get over your wifi next to it.

[@danram247]

I always just bought movies on Blu-ray discs that are worthy of watching over again. I haven't upgraded to a 4K player yet....what I'm saying is just buy your favorite movies on physical media it's not necessary to watch everything 4k discs or in 4k streaming...1080p HD is just fine for shows movies...

[@anandraj6951]

As a movie and hard core physical media buff, found ur video extremely informative and interesting. .kudos dude..

[@Kamuigod2001]

Dolby Atmos does NOT equal Dolby True HD. You can have standard, compressed Dolby Digital that is encoded in Dolby Atmos! Atmos is metadata that is placed over the original signal, be it Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital+, or Dolby True HD!

[@mandoogamoose]

Please educate me! This video is 100% why I purchased a new Sony 4k UHD Blu-ray player! And oh my gosh even my wife is happy! I am over the moon…It’s amazing. Question- A little confused, what do I select for audio, Dolby Atmos or Dolby TrueHD? I have 7.2.2. Thank you for your time and for being amazing!

[@arnone1862]

I dont't mean to take a stab, this is just my OCD talking... BUT, you're not "getting compression" because of the low bit-rate, it's the other way around; the bit-rates are low because the stream is heavily compressed. and this is directly related to the amount of data that needs to be transferred. otherwise, this video is great explanation of the differences between streaming and physical media.

[@jasonhenle]

All video has compression. Blu-ray’s increased data rate does not necessarily equal “multiple times better quality.” Less noise in demanding scenes yes, but have realistic expectations for potential quality gains from physical media.

[@travisspazz1624]

I stream 4k when watching Amazon (no 4k upcharge) and the biggest difference from a Blu-ray to 4k streaming is the benefits of HDR. I still notice the upgrade in depth and color.

[@gun1987gunn]

Streaming quality will never beat a 4K disc with HDR.

[@gabtand]

never knows, because when was the era of photo cameras a guy told me that a phone will never get to the same level with a professional camera. Now Samsung Note 10 plus has a camera like a pro camera! lool

[@casse82]

Of course it will eventually

[@MrCREWCRUSHIN95]

Disney+ just got busted. Their 4K is upconverted 2K and their HDR is fake.

[@martianwoodpecker]

@@pauljackson1359 They still manufacture new turntables. As long as there is demand for physical movies there will be a market for disc players.

[@lacasadehonor9408]

@@gabtand physical cameras are still better than phones, the highest quality camera is a camera, not a phone

[@davescarpa8848]

For movies I’ve gone mostly streaming from iTunes. For 4K films I get deals thru codes and wait for sales and never pay more than 10. Watch via my 4K Apple TV. I just bought Red Heat in 4K for $5. Good flick but would never pay $25 for it. Are the disks better sure, but I’m running out of room, still buy TV shows on disk and have a big collection. Pretty confident Apples not going anywhere and now there’s movie anywhere.

[@israellai]

finally, someone brings up room...

[@MentalDeviant]

if I was going to buy digital movies in 4k 4K I wouldn't pay more than than 3-5. You're getting a lower quality picture and you can't even sell the thing.

[@TheArtOfTechSupport]

I set up streaming services for people for a living I always recommend ethernet over power line adaptors and chromecast ultras, it works sooo much better then wifi

[@andersmelchiorsen6739]

According to a handful of sources the BD max. video bitrate is 40 Mbps (some say 48) + audio (56 Mbps as a total), not 60-80 Mbps. And video on UHD-BD is 100 Mbps + audio.

[@Akkbar21]

Y’all need to learn about plex. Best of both worlds. Physical ownership (digital copies at full disc quality) with the convenience of streaming. Don’t let the copyright pigs scare you.

[@ThomasMuehler]

Great video. But one major thing that was missing was the different codecs that streaming uses to provide similar audio and video quality despite having a lot lower bit rate. Now, the fact that Blu-rays and physical media is still superior. But I do think that is a critical aspect. As this video makes it sound like video streaming is complete trash when it's not as bad as you made it sound. But physical media is still superior.

[@greeneye5977]

I popped in a 4K UHD this weekend and halfway through the movie the message that the ethernet to my tv disconnected. My tv is hooked up to my router via ethernet instead of wifi for better streaming. But this message pops up when my internet goes out every now and then. And all I could think at the time, while my movie kept playing, was “thank God I have physical disk movies”. My internet is not 100% stable and I will not go digital until completely reliable zero chance of disconnecting internet is a reality.

[@henchmanssa]

I love physical media just like you and I own lost of blu-rays and dvds, but there's a point I think you didnt mention: the evolution of codecs. We have to consider what the codecs today can do with lower bitrate. I can give you a real example: I own a Dvd that the movie file on the disc is 6GB total size. This movie was not released on HD in my country (Brazil). Than I got a 1080p blu-ray rip of the movie and the file size is 5 GB. See the point? The bluray rip, smaller file size (and, of course, lower bitrate), has better picture and sound quality. The h264 codec performs better than the old mpeg2 with the same or lower bitrate.

[@Andersljungberg]

There was a time when you could rent a movie in physical format, it doesn't exist anymore, does it? Even in the 90s and early 2000s, it was probably most common for people to rent the film not to buy film. Then of course there were people who downloaded movies as well

[@n4aride480]

Physical media is 100 % better period. Nothing sounds better...

[@mcnaugha]

I buy the 4K disc if I really love the movie and want the highest quality but I’d like to see side by side comparisons or a blind test where you don’t know whether you’re watching Apple TV 4K or a 4K disc. HDTV guy did a good comparison.

[@loyaltyfamilyfirst]

What's your thoughts on using your Xbox One X as your 4K dvd player? It's the highest console from Xbox in regards to 4k

[@littlehappykidp]

In short the most notable difference is bitrate. Streaming has lower bitrate because... it’s on the Internet duh. And in order to able to stream 4K footage online, it has to be compressed, so you loose definition, color, and dynamic range (which is the contrast between the darks and Brights of the picture.

[@tripfarmer9508]

The only thing that can match 4K HDR Blu Rays are lossless RIPs and REMUXES. Unless you have a literal film reel lol

[@Miller_Lite]

My only issue with physical media on Blu-ray or 4k it’s not releasing titles from films that are available on DVD, which gives stream the upper hand by delivering titles on HD that are not available to purchase physically. We’re already 13 years into the Blu-ray lifetime and we still missing a lot of movie titles that were released on DVD from VHS within a 5 year period.

[@ianorigbo7617]

Thanks very much for these videos. I've always stated the fact that the audio from Netflix is very weak. I would say audio with Amazon Prime video is so much better and dynamic.

[@Zachary_Dale]

4K streaming looks like a regular 1080p blu ray at best. I have 1GB per second internet, and 4K blu ray still looks better. Physical > Streaming

[@Albeeezy1216]

Game of thrones until recently became available in 4k stream so how did you stream it in 4k 3 years ago?

[@tafb94force29]

Meh. Average general consumer doesn’t care. Streaming is more than enough. Plus the convenience.

[@billcrampton4476]

If I plan on watching a movie more than 3 times I’m buying the Blu-ray

[@stevenroy4317]

This video definitely helped me understand things, I got the LG 65-inch Nano cell 9-series which is a really nice TV and I stream with the Roku Ultra hardwired to my modem and the HDMI cable to the TV obviously for HDR it sucks I have the best internet speed and they're still artifacting and distortion, definitely going to use it for just general streaming in HD but going to go and buy a 4K Blu-ray player and start collecting DVDs again

[@RandomNoob]

If you're only getting 26Mbos from WiFi you need to upgrade sounds like you are stuck on 2.4Ghz. Upgrade or switch to 5Ghz I usually hit between 200 - 300 Mbps on WiFi although I still use hardwired when possible. Also having 100x bitrate does not equal 100x quality improvement because you hit a point of diminishing returns. TrueHD and DTS-HD MA is still compressed but it's lossless

[@absolutium]

The measurements when taken by 'Fast' site do not show Wi-Fi speed or ISP link.. but usable bandwidth to the site.. you should try it.

[@RandomNoob]

@@absolutium I get full speed to fast im on 350Mbps and usually get somewhere around 380Mbps via fast on a bad day it might be 360Mbps but its always over my internet plan (Its normal here to get higher than my plan because my ISP allocates extra so on my 350Mb play my modem gets capped at 400Mbps)

[@chrisrobinson6712]

I prefer blu ray. Reliability and the knowledge of knowing it is never going away. It's mine to keep forever. Not having to worry about services taking films off, or not worrying about Internet connection. Personally I still like standard dvds too. Quality matters to me, but my eyes can adjust to dvd quality after a while

[@bassage13]

People will always choose convenience over quality. Those people will ruin it for the rest of us who have standards.

[@mattiasjansson733]

Why do l get the feeling that you guys are more concerned about the technology than the actual quality of the movie?

[@thomasbuilder]

Its not that at all. We are movie enthusiasts who love good quality movies but we like to watch those in the best possible quality so the experience is even better

[@robertkrebs4192]

Apple 4K does have Ethernet capability

[@Ytc4techs]

You need to go into your router and split your WiFi service (2.4 and 5 Ghz networks. The 2.4 Ghz goes farther, but you only get between 25-30 on the down on a good wireless device. The 5 Ghz is faster but does travel as far - walls and other radio frequencies will interfere with it. If you have a docis 3.1 modem and pay for the gig speed you can get 875 and up on the down load. I would use Speakeasy speed test, because it use HTML and can read the speeds.

[@kevinkoch6900]

Streaming is fast food compared to a 4K Blu Ray sit down dinner. Quality wins out for me every time.

[@RegiiPad]

Dont confuse kilobytes with kilobits, small b should be bit not byte

[@analogblues]

Great video, Jeff! The AV quality between 4K Blu-Ray (& standard Blu-Ray) compared to streaming have been night and night day to me. Especially since I've updated my home cinema and TV recently. It's made me a HUGE fan of physical media. Plus, from what you said, it sounds like 4K & Blu-Ray discs will surpass streaming quality for the next 10-20 years, maybe more. Nevermind the advantages of owning a copy, having beautiful artwork on your shelves, etc. I love your channel! Thank you for doing what you do!

[@billystutz55]

So are DVDs higher quality then Netflix?