4th/5th Gen Male Vocalists - Highest Supported Mixed Notes

[@himi_]

Yikes my bad. 2:35 that's supposed to be Keeho and 3:42 supposed to be Seoho lol 😅 Sorry about that

[@Talhin-skz]

I think you forgot Sustain F#4 by Han at this kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpfPZ4Cjrsiif9U 16:56 and F#4 from I.N at this kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJnNnGuEqt2BrK8

[@YEOUN_channel]

​​@@Talhin-skz Those are not supported unfortunately... Han's was quite tight and floppy, I.N was straight up through his nose and quite light. I believe Han might have better attempt on F♯4 when phrasing.

[@Talhin-skz]

@@YEOUN_channel sorry, if you compare this with Róse you can see I.N do it better. And as i said before, this note from Han is supported. You can compare it with Hyuk and can see Han is better

[@Talhin-skz]

@@YEOUN_channel and in the Han's video, at 4:56 you can he spam phrase F#4 supported

[@YEOUN_channel]

@@Talhin-skz Why compare I.N to Rosé ? When the latter have more connection than I.N , and yes that F♯4 was not supported cuz it's too light compared to other F♯4s in this vid. (But i guess you wouldn't change your mind). *Just because he doesn't suffer from too much tension or sound easy/pretty, it wouldn't make it supported. For Han I did mention that he would have passable F♯4s when phrasing but those are not it. His better F♯4 are at 19:30 and onwards, those are cleaner than what you timestamped.

[@oceanwave_]

Oh wow I’m late lol but 6/9 ZB1 members being here iktr 😌 Timestamps for Zerose: 0:13 Ricky 0:55 Matthew 1:40 Gunwook 1:57 Hanbin 5:12 Hao 5:37 Taerae

[@minabonitap]

in fact all zerobaseone has supported up to F#4

[@MoustafaSElHassan21]

Sohee have so much potential that G#4 is really good

[@NanaNurul_]

Taerae 5th gen main vocal ❤

[@seven.9543]

6 zb1 members wowwww

[@psychedelicacynical]

ZB1 a visual group where half the members are actually main vocals

[@NayeonsBoyfriend]

@@psychedelicacynical Half?? Y'all need to stop overpraising shallow vocalists smh

[@akio1489]

​@@NayeonsBoyfriendmany group out there having main vocal with weak tier or even worse

[@Oliver-uz1fs]

​@@akio1489just because their "main" vocals are bad doesn't mean a main vocal should be bad too

[@minabonitap]

​@@NayeonsBoyfriend ZEROBASEONE VOCAL TIER 1.- Taerae (B) 2.- Hao (B-) 3.- Hanbin (C+) 4.- Gunwook (C) 5.- Matthew (C-) 6.- Ricky (D+) 7.- Jiwoong (D+) 8.- Yujin (D) 9.- Gyuvin (E+)^

[@Ruko06]

Zhang Hao is main vocal

[@Liry_59]

No it's literally taerae

[@luvrinas]

@@Liry_59stfu it's both of them

[@rinakyun]

damn that last G#4 sounds fucking amazing wtfff

[@musicsk613]

dkz mingyu’s voice is literally insane

[@paledangels]

1:50 oh ma god, i never seen this chanhee clip before, he sound so good ????

[@YEOUN_channel]

He was estimated to be a W to A ( if he keeps this less heavy nasal placement )

[@Myboynextdoriize]

For briize Anton-0:18 Wonbin-0:33 Sohee-4:33

[@honoluluw]

unrelated but aw it makes me so happy how you can see these guys clearly love singing, like taerae's smile at 5:36??

[@silvrclouds]

seungeon is so freaking good omg

[@rosuh_they_know]

TAERAE MAIN VOCAL OF 5TH GEN❤

[@bluuu.uullll]

FRFR INCLUDING SOHEE AND SUNGHO

[@m.a2345]

lol

[@MoustafaSElHassan21]

Riize do have so much potential like 6/7 who support at least W tier with Sohee Who is Average for the 5th gen standard they are good but if they were like in 3rd gen or 2nd gen they would be average

[@YuHu-bo2sw]

What are their tiers?

[@MoustafaSElHassan21]

@@YuHu-bo2sw Sohee Low-Mid Average Seunghan Mid W-A Wonbin Low W-A Anton High W Eunseok W Sungchan W But these are still estimated

[@YuHu-bo2sw]

@@MoustafaSElHassan21 thanks

[@MoustafaSElHassan21]

@@YuHu-bo2sw your welcome

[@eddyjacx5622]

​@@MoustafaSElHassan21 This is not average by ANY serious standard.

[@honoluluw]

man how did sm find jaehee......

[@jamesplaysssss]

OMG N.SSIGN IS HERE, i thought no one recognize them

[@luciole7452]

When I see/hear this, i'm really glad to have known k-pop in the 2nd generation era. Only ONE vocalist in a whole generation can reach (and go beyond) A4. In groups like Shinee or Super Junior, they're at least two in each group who can go beyond.

[@rurimasruroh5581]

They're everywhere in 2nd gen

[@theclash4362]

3rd generation have EXO and MAMAMOO

[@luciole7452]

@@theclash4362 top 3 female kpop vocalists : - Ailee - Lina (the Grace) - Luna ((f)x) Top 3 male kpop vocalists : - Kyuhyun (Super Junior) - Ryeowook (Super Junior) - Sandeul (B1A4). Where's the third generation ???

[@Oliver-uz1fs]

​@@luciole7452wasn't Chen better than Sandeul?

[@himi_]

@Oliver-uz1fs He is. Sandeul was a bit too overrated even at his peak

[@freedomdive1881]

I thought Minwook has A4

[@jmenz2578]

I knew you were going to make part 2!😊

[@kevinhwang8606]

i'm actually waiting for your yhmah album vocal showcase

[@hvcb270]

Nice video I thought that seunghun supported a G4 as you mentioned in your vid last year. Same for seungeon 'sA4?

[@himi_]

Not me forgetting my own vid 😭 yeah i kinda forgot that one G4 existed lol. Cuz he usually gets too tensed even on F#4 Regarding Seongeon's A4, I never said they were supported. His attempts weren't bad so I added it to my video

[@hvcb270]

​@@himi_not even the one A4 at trouble cover? It wasn't supported after all?

[@himi_]

@@hvcb270 The acoustic session one? A bit too pushed imo

[@andrewching2067]

Can you do a riize vocal range and analysis? 😆

[@Americarnaud]

What's the song Matthew is singing ?

[@himi_]

Eclipse - Run Run

[@mattbins]

Run Run by ECLIPSE

[@Americarnaud]

@@himi_ thank you !!! The stage is incredible omg

[@Asasocco11229]

Why was Hanbin considered always one of the highest WA when he sounds so airy all the time? Gunwook f#4 sounds better then hanbin’s honestly

[@himi_]

Airy does not necessarily mean you are worse. Look at Soyou, Yuri, etc. Hanbin generally has a stronger support and more settled cords than Gunwook is despite his shortcomings. It's more noticeable when he's not purposely trying to sound pretty.

[@Asasocco11229]

@@himi_ isn’t being airy a sign of bad chord closure and bad engagement of the appoggio muscles (aka bad management of the airflow)? I thought his Lee Mujin service material was just him having a bad day but every clip I see of him sounds quite airy, these F#4 included, especially the first one (to my ear gunwook’s F#4 sounds better, more balanced and less floaty, even tho it’s a little tight). But I could be wrong since you know much more than me :) I was just curious if my ears were deceiving me. They probably are!

[@himi_]

​@@Asasocco11229 Being airy can indeed be related to incomplete vocal cord closure and bad muscle engagement, but it's not exclusive to only that. It's worth noting that even some A~AA vocalist can struggle with airiness (Doyoung for instance), but that does not disrupt their support completely. The tightness you mentioned about Gunwook is also present sometimes in part of his range, which I suspect might have to do with subglottic pressure in his cords, which is what causes the tension and tight sound. It is one of the signs of not so good engagement. He can also have some slight issue with choppy legato, which is also a sign of improper airflow and breath control. Hanbin generally does not have this issue. He has a smoother legato and more controlled sound overall imo. But I can tell you that his F#4 in this particular video isn't really ahead of Gunwook (but that's the best one I could find). But below that, he has a smoother sound overall. He might also not be one of the highest as I predicted. And there isn't much gap between them. I just don't have the time to properly arrange and figure out how the W-A ranks should be lol. here's some better clips of him singing when he's not trying to sound too floaty. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpLXaaWYfNVohKcsi=RSYz0-bbUJcO_CMP 6:02, 12:54 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnPbqHmrf5J3q6csi=uEQSWh0pvNL_rpn5

[@scarlet_18142]

@@himi_ I am sorry I don't get what you are saying there are many technical terms but like just one thing.. isn't there any other video of Gunwook? that is not some clip taken from a variety show where they are just messing around? I really think I've seen many clips of him actually singing ..he also sings a lot in his lives however I really liked the video , It's evident you worked hard on it 💙💙 and thanks for introducing new idols to us😊

[@random101-yx6my]

​@@scarlet_18142 I don't think there's any video of gunwook doing some F#4 without getting tight That F#4 feels like the best I heard from him

[@Strawberryheavn]

Sangyeon is crazyyyy good

[@dween3359]

Riize mentioned 🧡

[@christianvillanueva3938]

1:02 cha junho is the best💝

[@lotiluvtiot]

Can you analyze TIOT vocal 🥹 Kum Jun Hyeon improve so much after Boys Planet 🥹

[@arichi7]

OMG OMEGA X JAEHAN MENTIONED

[@dwifidiyatinabilazakiyahra8438]

Xiaojun mentioned! 🎉

[@davidakbar4876]

Damnnn i likeee thatt lun8 guy voicee so much

[@dddd-w7k9e]

JOOYEONNNNN MY BELOVEDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!! TOP 4TH GEN VOCALIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@bluuu.uullll]

0:38 KIM SUNOO THE VOICE U HAVE and 0:51 LEE HEESEUNG IUHSNJHSHUNSUHNSUHSNHUSNHUS

[@dknsm5678]

i always wanted seungeon to be in ZB1. imagine if that happened, they'll be so full of good vocalists

[@sitaraeyen3981]

they already are

[@paledangels]

ZB1 is already a vocally well rounded groups, u got 1 A-AA, 1 A, 3 W-A, and the rest r probably weak

[@shafaainunnabila7438]

nahh same what a waste

[@minabonitap]

​@@paledangels Zb1 vocal tier 1.- Taerae (B) 2.- Hao (B-) 3.- Hanbin (C+) 4.- Gunwook (C) 5.- Matthew (C-) 6.- Ricky (D+) 7.- Jiwoong (D) 8.- Yujin (D-) 9.- Gyuvin (E+)^

[@paledangels]

@@minabonitap that's not right at all lol

[@hrts.4jwkj]

JONGHO AND SEOHO BEST 4TH GEN MALE VOCALISTS ONEUS VOCAL KINGS

[@dontcrosstheline-skz-oneus]

it's a crime that seoho has not been invited to lee mujin service

[@Oliver-uz1fs]

The new six's guy reminds me a lot of Ollie lol

[@antoncutie]

what notes is equivalent to F4 for female version?

[@freedomdive1881]

A4

[@egregiousboy]

Around Bb4

[@Lss125]

B♭4

[@ericgabriel3774]

I think I.N has an F4 here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iomaln94l7drnrcsi=Wa4-6iTf0DZOFcSV&t=600

[@rishelleanne]

Im too early.... here for riize..nct

[@hwibujak]

There are stable vocalists in AB6IX too😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@Nicholasreal]

So you are telling me taehyun is even worst than ricky???

[@fqfqqfdqf5562]

i think you forgot someone jay chang main vocalist of one pact he was in boys planet

[@Talhin-skz]

Maybe you forgot Jeongin and Han F#4

[@NayeonsBoyfriend]

Are u sure that Jeongin has an F#4🤨

[@freedomdive1881]

Jeongin doesn't have F#4

[@Talhin-skz]

@@NayeonsBoyfriend I'm pretty sure he has kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJnNnGuEqt2BrK8

[@Talhin-skz]

@@freedomdive1881 Nope, he has kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJnNnGuEqt2BrK8

[@ericgabriel3774]

​@@Talhin-skz That does not sound supported at all

[@LucyBashik]

what song is heeseung singing? it reminds me of some txt song

[@himi_]

i believe it's anti romantic

[@LucyBashik]

@@himi_ ah yess, thank you queen

[@Oliver-uz1fs]

@@LucyBashik p sure himi is a he

[@himi_]

@Oliver-uz1fs i am 😂

[@Oliver-uz1fs]

@@himi_ Just wanted to make sure to avoid missgendering lol

[@dontcrosstheline-skz-oneus]

seoho is so underrated aas vocalist he is one of best in 4th gen

[@freedomdive1881]

Is Jihoon the best one among 4th/5th gen who has supported E4 the highest?

[@egregiousboy]

I don't think that question makes sense 😅. I mean, you can't support an E4 the highest because it'll always be an E4, yk? If 2 people support an E4, neither of them are supporting it higher, because it's the same note.

[@freedomdive1881]

​@@egregiousboyI mean, supporting E4 at their max/highest. Which also means not supporting F4 and higher.

[@freedomdive1881]

​@@egregiousboyYou understand what I mean? If 2 idols can support up to E4 at their best, then it all goes with whoever has better support quality.

[@Oliver-uz1fs]

​@@freedomdive1881that's really much of a streech tbh

[@MoustafaSElHassan21]

​@@freedomdive1881 Supporting E4 isn't something impressive

[@fullsunsquirtlestar767]

Sohee highest vocal support is Bb4

[@fullsunsquirtlestar767]

Its in the behind of love 119

[@himi_]

Those are not supported

[@luvrinas]

joke of the century

[@johan_08]

Most Of these notes aren't "supported"

[@hvcb270]

Which one you're taking about? All of them sounded supported, some notes at first were shallow and that's all

[@johan_08]

@@hvcb270 Yes there are notes that aren't "supported"

[@Oliver-uz1fs]

@@johan_08 might point which are not?

[@johan_08]

@@Oliver-uz1fs let me ask u, Jongho was Shallow or full Supported?

[@Oliver-uz1fs]

@@johan_08 Jongho was supported, Jongho isn't shallow lol

[@Kep1goingOn999]

Taerae 5th gen main vocal ❤