4th/5th Generation Female Vocalists - Highest Supported Mixed Notes

[@kairosra]

Haewon Eb5 wow! I wish she could be consistent up there someday

[@li.moreau]

the fact that jinsoul B♭4 is from 2020 and it wasn't even until like, 2023 that people even seriously entertained the idea that jinsoul could support notes at all... she's been so underestimated omg 😭 not that her technique/level of development is anything spectacular at all, but she's really been one of the most improved and decently developed vocalists from loona for a while now

[@a.t.6610]

You could say that about almost all of LOONA's vocal line, though. A lot of Chuu's best B♭4s are old as f*ck too lol, like LOONA Birth stuff (so 2018?), but for the longest of time people were barely giving her G#4. Some of the Yves clips I've seen this channel feature were also from 2020 (Fact in Star - Why Not era), but she was often not in consideration ever when it came down to LOONA vocals etc. In the end, it all boils down to consistency. Lots of LOONA members choose style over technique. Jinsoul is one of them, but you can tell she's been working on this.

[@endutzky]

​u r so right

[@li.moreau]

​@@a.t.6610Nah, people started naming Yves as one of the strongest LOONA vocalists (and soon enough, THE strongest LOONA vocalist) on KZbin around 2020. You can check the vocal analysis channels here. They started re-evaluating Yves in 2020. Jinsoul's been considered the weakest member of the LOONA vocal line for yearsss. I always felt like that should've changed around 2020 too. She definitely improved even though, as you mentioned, the LOONA girls still prioritize style over technique. Jinsoul, at least, has worked on it. I believe she has firmly surpassed LipSeul for a while now.

[@relaxmusic3890]

Nmixx the best. Lily and Haewon not just idols, but real VOCALISTS

[@BaeYeonSae.]

Kyujin and sullyoon too, above average for idol standards

[@relaxmusic3890]

@@BaeYeonSae. agree. And Bae and Jiwoo are also superior to all the main vocalists in the Hybe female groups, at least because their vocals are not processed so much, they are much more stable during dance performances, they are able to perform their parts in different variations

[@oceanwave_]

Yay new vid, thank you! We actually get to hear why Rami and Chiquita are ranked higher than Rora and Ahyeon; it makes sense as you clearly hear the differences in the quality of their Bb4s (0:44 - 1:11).

[@hiitsmesahi]

Here Ahyeon's Bb4s quality is best one so far also Ahyeon hasn’t being ranked yet....

[@Kyo-dg5fh]

​​@@hiitsmesahiNope lol, You can hear Ahyeon's Bb4 is the most shallow comparing to the others girls of Baemon, She lacks the chest coordination and chord development as all W-As actually do + Sootzubæ already mentioned in the comments of his community tab that Ahyeon is the lowest in the vocal line apart Pharita.

[@hiitsmesahi]

@@Kyo-dg5fh is that so? It really sounded easier from Ahyeon so I said that

[@YEOUN_channel]

​@@hiitsmesahi Yeah aehyeon sounds more shallower than the other.

[@bus4555]

​@@YEOUN_channel is Pharita a mid or high weak?

[@paledangels]

thanks for including bora and haeyoon ❤‍🩹❤‍🩹 rip cherry bullet 😭

[@SuAmazing]

😭😭

[@Paradoxious]

Crazy these babymonster clips are from 2 years ago apart from Rami's. Hopefully we get to see them do more covers and variety live now.

[@justanoerfan1572]

First New upload by the man 😁!!!

[@xuzzz_o3]

Lily also have supported Eb5 and several E5s.

[@endutzky]

FINALLYYYY

[@rayxxna]

BABYMONSTER 🔥

[@leedosbf]

hmm… p sure Haneul and Juhyeon have some A4’s here or there, unless you were less lenient on what would be passed which would probably be the right move lol

Maybe Juhyun because she puts some effort with support. Haneul is already super weak on a G#4, I don’t think she has anything acceptable above that. Maybe something proceeded but live? I doubt.

[@rina_core]

In water by wendy cover she has some passable beyond G#4 ​@

[@Asasocco11229]

I was sure that Haneul had a lot of passable A4s? Anyways, great video (like every one of your uploads) ❤

Mind linking some? I don’t really think she has. Vocal tokers overestimated her a lot. Thank you!

[@katykim]

​​​@ in bye bye my neverland, midas touch pre chorus. She's definitely weak and not W-A but she has some Passable A4s. I'll link it now kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKHCnaOKYs2qZsksi=f5CGGHZ5JdXAYM-z midas touch the mv

[@aewesome]

I know right, i was waiting for sootzubae’s new vid, and finally sootzubae posted! 🫶🏻

[@summernight2752]

That Seoyoon girl really sounds standout more than most of the girls here and reminded me the quality of 3rd gen girls belting. Too bad that I never hear the group

[@novicuswriterus]

I'm kinda upset that you didn't include 12Dal's (Nayul) notes in here. She's the best vocalist in 4th Gen and has the best mixed notes and belts I've heard in 4th Gen. And most people don't know her, it's sad honestly. If you don't know her, I'd love you to research and make an analysis video about her. She's amazing! Also, people always talk about Lily and Haewon (and they deserve it honestly) but I don't see anyone talking about Yechan, the main vocal of Pink Fantasy in 4th gen either. It'd be nice to see an analysis about her from a well-known and knowledgeable channel.

[@nuGGu]

sootzubae is definitely familiar with Nayul look in their community tab they have Nayul on the old chart (she was removed cause she’s now a gospel singer I think?) also Yechan is also on the chart

[@novicuswriterus]

@@nuGGu Oh I didn't know that, thank you :) I was just kinda sad not to see them here, because they both have moments that can be in the top 5 here (Lily too)

[@cutiieeepatootieee2002]

@@novicuswriterusthere was already a video with them included so there's no point adding them again

[@Oliver-uz1fs]

Video in my birthday, nice, too bad I can't change the quality lol, KZbin being KZbin

[@HaewonVoiceCrack]

Happy Birthday 🎉

Happy birthday~

[@justanoerfan1572]

Happy birthday Oli 🎈

[@eternaldandaniexol]

Happy Birthday !

[@SuAmazing]

Happy Birthday~

[@wonbin.jk.eunwoo]

I thought belle's C5 in countdown live practice (0:52) was fine.

[@aewesome]

Hi sootzubae! Does Asa Babymonster, Julie Kiss Of Life, Jisoo Blackpink, Tzuyu Twice, Irene Redvelvet have passable moments? I heard from TikTok they are “U~W”, but idk if “U~W” was a real tier or not cuz from what i know, “U~W” doesn’t exist. Thoughts?

Jisoo does. Tzuyu too I think? Irene sounds a bit too floaty to give anything a pass. The other two at least sings more connected. Originally anyone bellow WA is W, but conventionally we say those whose only got a few passes or are *very* inconsistent in general is bellow W / underdeveloped.

[@aewesome]

@ I’m sorry but i don’t really know about the “The other two at least sings more connected” one 😭 I mean, do they have supported moments like Jisoo and Tzuyu, or not like Irene. I’m new about this, so yeah 🥲

@@aewesome I meant Jisoo and Tzuyu with “the other two” lol. The rest doesn’t imo.

[@aewesome]

​​@ Ah i thought Irene, Julie, and Asa had passable moments as well. Anyways, thank you so much, i’m sorry if i asked too much, cuz i wanna learn more about this. Also i’m not fluent in english, so i didn’t know what u mean at first 😭 Thank you 🫶🏻

[@ppkrn2854]

Sootzubae , Do you have any passable moment video of tzuyu and jisoo , I want to see it~

[@bigmamafan1773]

Oh nice Kandis mention

[@bigmamafan1773]

I remember Seoyoon from that compilation nuGGu channel made, quite strong vocalist, nice that she is included too.

⁠@@bigmamafan1773 I saw the compilation too. I don’t think she’s more than low AA, but she’s definitely better than the standard so let’s call it strong I guess lol.

[@bigmamafan1773]

@ Lol, yeah strong is relative here, after listening to the rest of the video she is very pleasant to hear lol.

[@nuGGu]

nuGGu mention omg 😂❤

[@bigmamafan1773]

@@nuGGu hahha

[@kanzrifrosie]

Babymonster's vocal line ate!!!

[@mooblink4ever899]

Baemon's vocal line is the strongest in the 5th gen! It's like having five main vocalists in one group. Rami, Rora, Ahyeon, Canny, and Pharita-these girls could easily be the main vocalists in other groups 😂 Even Pharita who is considered to be the weakest vocalist in Baemon technically can be a main vocalist in some groups like Gidle or Illit for example.

[@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc]

​@@mooblink4ever899Pharita cannot be main vocalist in Gidle☠️

[@BaeYeonSae.]

​@mooblink4ever899 you're saying pharita is better than yuqi? Who's a lead/sub vocalist? She can't even touch yuqi let alone miyeon

[@mooblink4ever899]

@hbic00 The main vocalist in Gidle is Minnie who is weaker than Pharita technically so...

[@mooblink4ever899]

@hbic00 Yuqi's tone is special for me, but her singing technique is not that good. Pharita can literally sing challenging songs.

[@preymeth]

are all the notes shown here fully/close to full support or still shallow? especially the girls who are in weak-average?

[@cutiieeepatootieee2002]

they're all still shallow

[@KM7SMPN1TOMBARIRI]

Still shallow especially weak-ish

[@BaeYeonSae.]

Ahyeon as an example, her's are shallow

[@Unknownandbyes]

No vid of Lily ???

[@aewesome]

Lily has E5 at best

[@oceanwave_]

There’s a separate video for Lily actually: kzbin.infovypAZVhMcrI?feature=shared

[@user-fb7vf4px6q]

Is Hanuel High Weak or Low WA?

Low weak if she will, mid weak if she’s lucky lol

[@aewesome]

​@ so she’s underdeveloped?

[@ihrtrian]

hasn’t sullyoon supported c5 though ?

[@BaeYeonSae.]

Probably lacked materials otherwise lily would be here too

[@brendan6555]

Juhyeon's A4 in My Sea?

Too weak looking back

[@endutzky]

​@ what abt wish u were gay?

[@vity9534]

ooh the cherrybullet girlies… 😞

[@user-fb7vf4px6q]

Belle’s B4 is really nice. Where would you place her?

She’s in my charts, in the community tab.

[@aewesome]

She is in sootzubae’s charts! She’s around Low A (or could be Low-Mid A? idk)

[@annpurnajha732]

Can lia support bb4

[@asiasberry]

Has Ningning supported above C#5 (besides those Eb5s in that OST with Winter)?

[@leedosbf]

she has some phrases D5s. can’t think of any specific clips off the top of my head tho

You mean as in live? Yeah I’d think she has some acceptable D5s too, nothing particularly strong that comes from the top of my head though lol.

[@cutiieeepatootieee2002]

her phrased d5s in something like that are okay~ish

[@CalvinRaharjoo-cw4me]

so babymonster is kinda overrated vocally 😔

[@juansuarez0126]

Kinda no, they're overrated.

[@SgtThidar]

Kinda. They are all below average.

[@hiitsmesahi]

They are quiet okay in vocal... Also as vocal line they has a good vocal libe in 5th gen 4/7 in W-A tier... Also they are all under 18 so they have so much potential to improve The most important thing is they can sing live being stable

[@li.moreau]

For a K-Pop group in the recent generations, they are not below average, if only because the average is REALLY low these days. But in general, yes, they're not really a vocally "strong" group.

[@SuAmazing]

As babymonsters são um grupo mais de coreo ou de vocal?

[@sweety3303]

Definitely Vocals, 5 of the 7 are already great vocalists n 3 are rappers

[@SuAmazing]

@@sweety3303 Ohh

@@sweety3303 Great? They’re all bellow average.

[@aewesome]

Vocal for sure

[@SuAmazing]

@ Oh

[@Bangpink1201]

Well i want an answer is Haewon from Nmixx is on the same level as of Lily as many people said that they both are Main Vocalist and Did Sullyoon move from High weak to average to low average tier? And I have heard Rosé has supported Bb4 consistently in Bornpink tour and her B4s were still shallow (but not shaky anymore) So will she be palced above Miyeon,karina, Rami and Chiquita or Below them??

[@relaxmusic3890]

Haewon and Sollyoon are definitely superior to all the idols in the video and who you listed in the comments, they have a bigger range, cleaner vocals, and increased stamina. But Lily is on another level, at the age of 10 she had vocal skills like an adult, breathing techniques, a huge range, absolute hearing, and most importantly, she herself learned this from videos on the Internet to overcome depression when her friends died during a fire in Australia. She is not just an idol, but a professional vocalist. Sorry for the long text

[@Bangpink1201]

@@relaxmusic3890 no problem, yah Lily is definitely a great vocalist and I feel sorry for Lily after hearing the news of what happened to her friend. Well now Lily is fine and that's great.

[@li.moreau]

@@relaxmusic3890 Every singer from Nine (Kandis) and after in this video is technically stronger than Sullyoon

[@relaxmusic3890]

@@li.moreau the first few singers sing well, the other half of the singers in the video sing worse, because Sollyoon has clean vocals, not squeezed, the same Ahyeon's high note sounds very tense, Solyoon's high note is very clean. I studied singing for 7 years, so you can immediately see who has what breathing technique, range, vocal purity and musical ear, thanks to which you can experiment when one part can be performed in different ways. Sorry, I wrote some words through a translator

[@leedosbf]

rose is nowhere near consistent with her Bb4s… i personally don’t even include them in her consistent range

[@thischristmas00]

Earlyyy!!!

[@hiitsmesahi]

So where will you place Ahyeon? Cause her Bb4 sounds good

Low WA. Definitely bellow Hayoung but certainly not as low as Hanni.

[@hiitsmesahi]

@ I have asked you some question in other comment can you please answer my question?

[@w.g.m7029]

wheres lily😂😂

Everybody and their mom knows Lily’s best E5s lol and it’s been uploaded on my channel too. I just wanted to include HaeYoon best attempts because nobody talk about those 😂

[@w.g.m7029]

@ whats ur opinion on babymonster vocal ranking?

@@w.g.m7029 It’s in my charts, on the community tab.

[@imfoive991]

@ LOLL I ACTUALLY WHEEZED AT THE "EVERYBODY AND THEIR MOM"

[@hiitsmesahi]

​You didn't ranked Ahyeon and Pharita though ? Also you have removed Rora's name....?​@

[@trongtranvan7816]

I thought Sullyoon can support C5 at her best

[@aewesome]

in the wedding one? i think that C5 is too thin

[@frumpaddamsbae]

who in i-land 2 is the strongest vocalist with tier? 🥲

[@ejaftmlbb]

You forgot kim vvup

[@txnpkun]

⁠i need to ask about jennie, i saw a tiktok user say, “jennie is weak tier now” is jennie improved or is that wrong info??

[@gxm9763]

shes passable enough to be low w based from what i’ve heard, although its just low w😭

[@snsdgivemetwicetogfriendfr9137]

Kim VVUP Sieun STAYC ? !!

[@vity9534]

first hello

[@Tqmwpatdw]

tiktok ppl said haneul supported B4 in like water cover..🤮

[@aewesome]

oh i know who that is 👀

[@txnpkun]

@@aewesomejisoochuu ??😅

[@aewesome]

@@txnpkun uhm i dont wanna say his name though, he’d probably see us but i know u know 😭