4X4 Switch Fix: 2017 Grizzly 700 + Channel Update and a Shoutout to Q !

[@marionhollingsworth6998]

Outstanding! You just saved me $125 for a new switch. Took me all of 15 minutes and it works perfect again. 2018 Grizzly here.

[@Maritimer]

Hey man! thats awesome news ! yeah I think this video has helped quite a few people, which is exactly why I wanted to make it, if they would just put the dielectric grease in from assembly, we would have these issues....

[@daveradwan5568]

My Kodiak 700 SE has been having this issue for the last 3-4 years. I've learned to live with it but it always concerned me that something was going to break with the actuator at some point and then I'd be dealing with a major transmission issue. I followed the instructions as described and VOILA, problem solved! Thanks for a great video!

[@Maritimer]

hey man, thats awesome ! Happy to help !

[@matthewtavanetz4283]

Was having some issues with my 2014 grizzly 4x4 going in and out on its own. Yours was one on a few videos that came up and I watch all your atv adventure videos so naturally I chose yours to watch. So far its bin working awesome no problems since I cleaned and reapplied the grease, did have some small spots of corrosion that I sanded off! Thanks and keep up the content

[@Maritimer]

Hey man ! that's awesome, glad the video could help. I've done my switch twice but this is a good reminder I should do it again before something happens. I think it's a common issue... .the dealer will try and sell you the new switch for like $200 or something.... crazy the world we live in.... "throw away" society... little sand paper and dielectric grease and she's good as new haha

[@matthewtavanetz4283]

@Maritimer couldn't agree more! Great seeing your canadian content. Watching from Saskatchewan. Stay safe on the trails friend!

[@Maritimer]

Thanks buddy !

[@JeffW81]

I was ready to buy a new switch when I came across your video. Just fixed my switch using your tips and it now works like new. Mine had some grease in it, but the contacts were all corroded. Cleaned them up with some fine steel wool and re-greased with the same Princess Auto grease.

[@Maritimer]

Hey Jeff !! man thats exactly why I made this video, they do put a LITTLE assembly grease in the switch but nowhere near enough, thats so awesome to hear. if you have some time you should really check all your electrical connections (most will be by your battery) and add grease to all the connectors. also don't forget your winch connectors (mine are right behind the winch) so they are kind of low and get hit with a lot of water/dirt. really glad the video helped ! thanks !

[@gallopingg1]

HIT THE THUMBS UP BEFORE THE VID EVEN STARTED, TOP MAN, ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO WATCH, GOOD LUCK WITH ALL YOUR TRAINING. MICK FROM UK.

[@Maritimer]

Hey Mic, thanks buddy ! you're always supportive and I appreciate it ! thanks again !

[@quaddingsous]

Awesome shout-out buddy! Thanks a ton! Can't wait to see the sticker on your machine! This was a great educational video, even if you don't own a Yamaha, because most of those switches would be similar in function. WD40 works great for taking off glue residue left behind by stickers, etc. It works way better than Goo-Gone. Love the old electrical pouch. I still have mine & keep my tools in it. The TPBoys clip cracked me up! - HAHAHAHA!!! The 4x4 actuator on your machine sounds like Taco's Arctic Cat; beefy & manly. My Honda doesn't make a sound when I push the 4x4 button . . . sigh - lol Excellent video bud! Thanx for sharin'!

[@Maritimer]

Hey man ! I plan on putting it on soon, just waiting for warmer temps ! And yeah for sure, there isn't a lot of difference in the switches, they all do the same thing. I'll have to remember that trick when I remove the 10k warning stickers on my bike haha Oh man I love the TPB, those guys are awesome ! Yeah the actuator sounds the same as on my old 2008, and of course with the bike off, it sounds much louder haha I'd rather not hear anything ! haha thanks for the comment buddy !

[@twoweelin]

I just wanted to say thank you. That fixed my atv and it didn't take long at all. Keep up the good work!

[@Maritimer]

Hey man ! thanks so much ! I'm really glad it worked for you ! mine started to act up the morning I was leaving for a camping trip haha so I took it apart, cleaned it up and had it back working quick, so I thought I'd do a video on it. thanks again !

[@SCOTIAN_]

Congrats on passing and getting married ! Can’t wait to see the surprise.

[@Maritimer]

thanks buddy !!!! as soon as I get home haha

[@scottfurlong5475]

When I put my 2018 Grizzly in for the new piston and cylinder update on Aug. 10, I had them check the 4x4 switch. It was going into 4x4 while driving down the trail one day and sometimes wouldn't activate when I press it. They replaced it but I should put some dielectric grease in there for good measure. Thanks for the tip. Great video!

[@Maritimer]

Hey!! Yeah chances are there was nothing wrong with your old 4X4 switch, it just needed to be cleaned and greased. You should definitely add some grease in there, I did this a few years ago and it still works fine today.

[@scottfurlong5475]

@@Maritimer I'll be doing it this Sunday. Thanks again!

[@Maritimer]

@@scottfurlong5475 just watch out for the little springs in there when you take it apart ! haha they tend to go flying.

[@scottfurlong5475]

@@Maritimer Yes, thanks

[@scottfurlong5475]

@@Maritimer I added the dielectric grease to the new 4x4 switch this evening and dropped one of the balls. They're about 2mm in diameter, not easy to find but I did and it's all done. Keep the great content coming.

[@robertperry1133]

I've been wondering about this since last year. Must be water that shorts the switch. Thanks for the vid, great troubleshooting.

[@Maritimer]

Hey Rob ! yeah that must be it, you may see a little bit of green/blue corrosion on the contacts. just clean it up and add lots of dielectric grease. Good Luck !!

[@chiefandmeatvriders9583]

Congratulations on your up and coming wedding and job, very helpful information, no problem with my 2018 Grizzly yet but will remember this if needed. Thanks

[@Maritimer]

Hey thanks man ! I appreciate it ! yeah keep an eye on it, might be a good idea to open the switch up and grease it up now so it doesn't happen on the trail. just a though. thanks again !

[@eclipser2004]

My 2005 Kodiak 450 had a lot of black carbon buildup on the contacts with the wires soldered on the back. It also had black coating on the push button contacts. Works well now after a light sanding with fine sandpaper and some fresh dielectric grease.

[@Maritimer]

Hey man ! that's great to hear ! Cheers !

[@Andrew_From_NB]

Really well done video man! Oh ya, always talking to myself in the shop! No worries or judgement about that for me here lol! Take care!

[@Maritimer]

Hey buddy ! thank you ! I had a few issues with the camera not wanting to focus but we got through it haha Thanks again !!

[@olramman]

Congrats on your block and good luck on your last! I always talk to myself when I want expert advice...

[@Maritimer]

Hey ! thank you ! This one is supposed to be easier than the last so hopefully i'll be good. Bahaha Expert advice eh? lol sometimes talking to myself helps me figure stuff out.

[@lewandlo]

Thanks so much Dude. Mine has been going in and out of 4wd on its own and was wondering why. I think this is my problem. Cheers from Wallaceburg ,Ontario.

[@Maritimer]

Hey Lewis ! yeah man this should fix ya up ! it's funny you commented, I was about to load mine on the trailer today to go for a ride and mine started doing it again... quickly took the switch apart, cleaned and re-greased it and no issues.

[@michaelvergadis8722]

awesome video I couldn’t figure out why it was engaging without me pressing anything!! Great channel keep it up I got a 17 grizzly as well.

[@Maritimer]

Hey Mike ! yeah it's a common problem with those 4X4 switches, I actually recently had to take mine back apart, clean it and grease it all up again, so keep an eye on it.

[@bradpowell29]

Worked like a charm, thanks... had to clean my terminals with a scotch pad.

[@Maritimer]

Hey Brad ! thats awesome man ! thats exactly why I made the video, super easy fix and hopefully save ppl from going to the dealer. when I cleaned mine originally I use a bit of sand paper then wiped with WD40, then grease. but scotch pad sounds like a good idea too !

[@GrampiesWorkshop]

How's she goin'? Congrats on passing your 3rd block and good luck on the 4th. They say if you get the first 3 the 4th is a piece of cake!!! What trade are you taking? From the look of your pouch and tools, I'm guessing electrical... Nice repair to the switch. Hope it lasts a good long while.

[@Maritimer]

Hey !!! all is well here ! hope its going good for you too ! I'm taking Signals and Communication for the Railway, lots of Electonics, Electrical stuff. haha You've got a good eye !!! that was my old tool pouch from my last job, but really close !! haha thanks man, I always like reading your comments !

[@NLINE7]

I've had some of the best conversations with myself, LOL. Thanks for the video and keep um coming.

[@Maritimer]

Bahaha glad i'm not alone !! haha thanks buddy !!

[@AndyADVenture]

Nice video hope to see you on the trails this year. You should announce what runs you do ahead of time. Cheers

[@Maritimer]

Hey ! thanks !! Yeah I'd like to but I usually don't know i'm going on a rally until the day before haha but sometimes I announce it on my FB page, just b/c I don't want to make a video just about going on a rally. Check out my FB page and i'll make sure I announce the next one I'm going on. Thanks for the comment and I hope to meet you someday !

[@AndyADVenture]

Awesome will do

[@01hondascott]

When i finally got around to taking my switch apart it turned out that all the contacts had black lines on them, it looked like someone took a fine tip sharpie and drew a line across all my contacts, i scraped the black stuff off and put dielectric grease on the contacts and it works flawlessly, was yours like that the first time you opened it? I bought it new.

[@Maritimer]

yes that was the first time opening it and I bought it new in 2017. I re-did this same thing in like 2021 just to make sure everything was good.

[@stuartmoir9390]

Probly the best and most to the point video on this subject.. perfect fix for me!

[@Maritimer]

Hey man, thanks so much ! I try to keep the BS to a minimum on this channel haha Feel free to share this video on Grizzly forums and FB groups. I Appreciate it !

[@8yn815]

Just fixed my 4wd switch thanks to your video!

[@Maritimer]

Hey that's awesome ! thanks !

[@lorijohn101]

Thanks for the detailed video! Followed it step by step.

[@Maritimer]

Hey ! thats great, glad to help ya out, Cheers !

[@nortonashburn5677]

hey maritimer I did what u did. so far switch working fine. btw I have same bike in camo. love it!

[@Maritimer]

Hey man that's awesome to hear ! glad it worked for you. Nice choice with the camp, it never really looks too dirty haha

[@45derrickman]

talk to myself all the time... and I know its me I recognize my voice :) great vid once again

[@Maritimer]

Bahahahhaha !!! always nice to know I'm not the only one lol thanks !!!

[@nealbkrr]

My 4wd still doesn’t work and I’m positive that it’s electrical what do you think I should do??

[@Maritimer]

Hey man, so you cleaned the switch and still nothing? Can you hear the solenoid when you press the button? if you don hear anything your solenoid may be done or maybe the switch isn't sending voltage to the solenoid..... possible wire issue or maybe the switch isn't put together right.... if you know any mechanics, maybe ask them for help.

[@chozen_1309]

Maybe silly question but should the battery be disconnected first? Would hate to short something out 🤔

[@Maritimer]

Ahhhh we'll technically you should always disconnect the battery when working on anything electrical But in this case there is no power going to your 4WD switch unless the ignition is on. BUT to be on the safe side, you'd be right.

[@chozen_1309]

@@Maritimer usually do for home Audio and vehicle stuff. I am Newer to working on atvs and was just curious. Appreciate ya 👍

[@NavigateOffroad]

Good luck on that final block for work!

[@Maritimer]

Hey, thanks ! I passed ! haha

[@NavigateOffroad]

@@Maritimer awesome!

[@roged60]

Thanks man, definitely helped... Also letting others know it's the same on a 2006 big bear 400 4x4👍🏼

[@Maritimer]

Hey Dennis ! glad it was able to help ya out, you may need to do it again in a year or so (I had to) Cheers man !

[@brycehilton7067]

Saved me some $$$ thanks alot keep doing what youredoing

[@Maritimer]

Hey man ! that's great ! happy to help. Just a FYI I had to do this same thing about a year after this video, and the 2nd time I made sure to add extra grease and I haven't had to touch it.

[@petropete3122]

Tks for sharing. Will be doing mine tomorrow as it has a mind of its own when I turn my ignition on 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@Maritimer]

haha this should get ya fixed up. I did have to do this process a second time a few years later but it's still working great. Cheers !

[@darryladrian4381]

Worked like a charm. Thanks for the video.

[@Maritimer]

hey man, glad it worked for ya ! I ended up having to do this again about 1.5 years later but it worked again.

[@leonannegers7874]

Know this is ole video but what was it doing like I got a grizzle 700 and when I push in the red button in nothing happy when I slide it over and click yellow it will blink on the dash

[@Maritimer]

Hey Leon ! yeah basically the same thing, I would push y 4WD button and the indicator on the dash would just blink and blink but never go into 4WD. this video fixed it for me. if it doesn't than you may have a problem with the actuator (I believe thats what it's called) and you may need to look more into that.

[@leonannegers7874]

@@Maritimer ya I did it this evening and well I just over thought it the relay was the actual problem I have so this weekend I'll be getting a new one I took one out of another area put it in and it worked so at least now I know that my switch has been well lubricated

[@Maritimer]

Awesome man, im glad to hear that !

[@samms449]

If your ever in Fredericton area this year we go out on runs every weekend, your always welcome to join

[@Maritimer]

Hey ! man I'd love to go for a ride in the Freddy area ! I saw up by Juniper there is a plane crash site, ever ben there? maybe I'll have to schedule a visit up to see you guys. I love the city of Fredericton.

[@samms449]

@@Maritimer I've never been to the plane crash, but it's on our list of places for a run. We go almost every weekend. So if you are ever going to be in the area with your bike or just want to go some weekend. I'm always down. Do you have a FB page or any means of contact?

[@J.E.B450]

If you had a Can-Am you wouldn't have that problem LOL We got to get something set up here sometime soon buddy. Gotta come down and go for a ride go to a few of my favorite spots eh.

[@Maritimer]

hahaha I may not have an easy switch problem but burnt up belts, electrical and frame issues MAYBE ! hahaha jk Can Am build a nice machine ! I'd love to man ! Just need to find some time !! I always seem busy haha

[@J.E.B450]

@@Maritimer yeah same here got a lot of shit going on but surely we can set something up for the summer eventually.

[@Maritimer]

@@J.E.B450 Sounds good to me buddy ! I forgot, where are you located?

[@J.E.B450]

I'll give my address in a private message on fb or email. I'll get my wife ta do it. I don't have fb.

[@Maritimer]

Hey I saw your woman messaged me, i'll check it out when I have some time. thanks buddy !!

[@masteryota]

Thanks this did the trick for me! 🤙 🇨🇦

[@Maritimer]

Hey man ! thats great to hear ! Cheers !

[@bcnu2132]

Thank you for the video. I have been having the same problems on my 2016 Grizzly, gonna try this fix, I am sure that will do it just fine.

[@Maritimer]

hey no problem at all, I hope it works for you ! let me know if it does !

[@bcnu2132]

that fix worked perfectly, thank you

[@johnpower5526]

Nice video I’m having that issue right now with my 16 grizzly goin to fix it now thanks to your video 👍

[@Maritimer]

Hey John ! I hope this fix's it for ya ! remember to watch those little springs in the switch, they tend to go flying ! haha let me know if it works !

[@kcatv9556]

Hey, bud! Awesome how to video! Not sure what problem you were having with your 4WD? One thing I do notice with both of our machines. When they sit for extended period of time and you start them up, it will have switched to four-wheel-drive on its own while sitting. I just push the switch on and off and it always goes back to 2WD. Is that the issue you were having? I’ll take ours apart and check the switch. Like you said it will probably be dry. Thanks for the info buddy really appreciate it!!

[@Maritimer]

Hey no problem at all, the issue seems to be with the newer Grizzlies and Kodiaks '16+. I haven't had any issues with the switch once I added some grease. Thanks !!

[@nickparsons263]

I'm having the exact issue aswell. I'm going to give this a shot . Thanks from us in beaver bank n.s!

[@timsr.6706]

@@nickparsons263 Did that fix it? My 2017 Kodiak is doing the same thing.

[@nickparsons263]

@@timsr.6706 yes it worked 100 percent! Took it apart seen very small amount of corrosion from sitting around. Gave it a little scuff to get the corrosion gone then put some dielectric grease and bam! Perfect !

[@timsr.6706]

@@nickparsons263 Thank you very much, I'll give it a try tomorrow !

[@charlespalmerii4299]

Thank You for your Video, Great Info! Is there anywhere else on the Grizzly I should consider putting Dielectric grease? thanks again enjoy your videos! Charlie

[@Maritimer]

Hey man ! thank you ! And I'd say if you have the time, I'd go over the whole machine, take every connector apart and put grease in it. also your battery terminals so they dont get corroded and have bad connection. Not sure if you have a winch but all the connections for that. More is better haha I love that stuff, we use it a lot at my area of work.

[@AE821]

Thanks for the video. Other than the 4x4 switch you had any other problems? Trying to decide if I should keep my 18' or get the 19' with the new engine.

[@Maritimer]

Hey man ! No, I haven't had any issues with my 18 yet, I know people have had issues with the 708 motor but they seem to be more in the year 2016. I'm not sure how familiar you are with the Grizzly but the 686cc motor in the 2019 model is actually an old Yamaha motor, they used the 686cc from 2007-2015 then in 16 switched to the 708 made by Subaru b/c the ol trust 686 wouldn't pass emission testing. Yamaha gave Subaru a 3 year contract to build them motors for the grizzly, then in 2019 they made some changes to the 686 and got it to pass emissions, so they went back to it. The 686 is a trusted proven motor but I've heard some guys with new ones saying they run hot (my guess is thats how they got them to pass the testing) so it's really up to you, Ive had good luck with mine, and my buddy has a 18 with no issues, I think part of the issue is how guys treat their machine, riding it hard, and wide open is rough on a single cylinder. Good luck ! Hope you get what's best for you.

[@AE821]

@@Maritimer Thanks for the reply! So far so good with mine also. I have owned several different machines and I think the Grizzly is my favorite so far.

[@Maritimer]

Right on, the Grizzly is an awesome "All Around" bike, it's great working around the yard with, Best belt drive in the industry, hands down, not even close. Great ground clearance and smooth ride for trails and rough stuff. proven reliability and build quality. one of the best 4X4 with Diff lock systems out there (none of that Can Am VISCO Lock or Polaris AWD systems) these are just my opinions, some people may argue different.... but I've been riding for a while and seen all the different brands (other than like CF Moto) and I know which ones come out of the woods on their own power every time.

[@AE821]

@@Maritimer Right on! I agree with you totally. Do you offer any decals for stickers of your youtube channel?

[@Maritimer]

I do ! I don't sell them right now or anything, I usually just give them away. what's your address? next time I mail some out, I'll send ya one !

[@01hondascott]

when you turn to the world wide web and a guy an hour up the highway tells ya how to fix your bike haha. thanks for the vid.

[@Maritimer]

Hey man ! I had a laugh at your comment lol glad I was able to help you out !

[@scottgreshuk7493]

Great repair vid. Worked for mine

[@Maritimer]

Hey Scott, great to hear man ! mine ended up happening again about a year later so I just did the re-did the fix and she's been good now for a few years.

[@chozen_1309]

Yesss ! Through some TPB in there too lol good stuff ..

[@Maritimer]

hahaha thanks man, I've been a TPB fan forever.

[@chozen_1309]

Threw whatever ** lol you got me

[@terryw.milburn8565]

Great How-2 buddy ! Thanks for this Anybody watches Bubbles Gets My Vote Ha ! After your last vid I headed over to Jerry's & Subbed Em Up & Told Em How I found his channel ! Good Luck on the Last block, Friend ! ATB T God Bless

[@Maritimer]

hey thanks Terry !!! Ive been a TPB fan forever haha met all of them a few times, really nice guys. That's awesome, Jerry is a great guy, super funny and down to earth. thanks again buddy !! ATB !

[@0861USMC]

Yep, I'm in Northern Idaho. My 2017 grizzly is doing the same thing. Popping in/out of 4x4 on its own.

[@Maritimer]

this should fix ya up ! I ended up having to do it a 2nd time just recently, so make a habit of once a year doing it and you shouldnt have any issues.

[@0861USMC]

@@Maritimer Cool, Thanks for the video.

[@piotrm9157]

Thanks. It will help stop switching off and on.

[@Maritimer]

thanks man ! glad to help ! Cheers !

[@NBGUY]

Best of luck on your last block

[@Maritimer]

Thanks buddy !! Should be a breeze ! then back to NB for some ATV'ing and camping ! haha

[@integrags98]

I had thé same problem with mine and my dad to. Keep up the good vieeos

[@Maritimer]

Wha year bikes do you guys have? my old 2008 never had an issue like that and its the same switch, the only thing I can think of is they didn't put the dielectric grease when assembling. thanks !!

[@integrags98]

I have an 2016 eps de grizzly ans my dad 2015

[@Maritimer]

@@integrags98 Ohhh ok right on ! I like to keep track of stuff like that haha

[@morganmcnevin278]

Worked thank you!

[@Maritimer]

Hey ! thanks so much !!

[@BANTAM53]

Did the dielectric grease after sanding the contacts. Kind of a crappy set up Yamaha!

[@Maritimer]

it's weird b/c that is the same switch I had on my 2008 grizzly and I never had an issue with it.... not sure if it's just not built as good anymore, but this fixed it right up.

[@jeromelasaga2291]

Great job

[@Maritimer]

thanks !

[@simonhotte9313]

Thanks man!!

[@Maritimer]

No Problem !

[@versyschris]

Cool. Thanks

[@Maritimer]

Thanks !!

[@dominickguerra189]

haha i take about 4 of them "celebration" breaks when i wrench on my toys

[@Maritimer]

hhahaha Celebration Breaks, I'll be using that for sure lol

[@rajkirannatarajan9276]

7:18 Good ode to Princess Auto lol .

[@Maritimer]

hahaha I know i know.... they have cheap stuff and most of it is junk but some of their stuff isn't bad at all, just gotta be picky with what you get lol

[@cyber-louche2923]

thanks A!

[@Maritimer]

haha thanks man ! and we spell is "Eh" just so ya know lol ! thanks again, cheers !

[@cyber-louche2923]

@@Maritimer haha copy that eh!

[@mattib10]

Nice👌

[@Maritimer]

Thanks man !

[@mikey533]

Ooooo I know the secret. How come no shout out to the poor bastard that had to train you before you go to Winnipeg? Good luck buddy.

[@Maritimer]

nothing you've taught me has been on any test yet hahahaha thanks buddy !!!

[@NovaMudder]

Thanks 😊

[@Maritimer]

No Problem ! I hope it helped ya !

[@timgreen4147]

If I'm watching a video on how to fix something that means I'm in a bind and don't have time to hear about your weather, how much snow you got or your job, I just need to know how to fix my quad, way too chatty, did you really just say "push the button and it compresses the spring" duh! 15 minutes to tell me to clean the electrical connections and see if that fixes my issue, wow!

[@Maritimer]

Hey Tim ! You can't be in that much of a rush... you typed out this long of a comment. Remember You are the one that can't fix a problem, so You had to go look for someone else to show you how to fix it. You're Welcome, Happy to help.

[@timgreen4147]

@Maritimer I wasn't trying to put you down or negative just giving you some feedback so that you might get better at making g videos and therefore get more views, but to each thier own

[@TheTed169]

Hey great vid but a lil greasy. ha TFS!

[@Maritimer]

Baahaha Oh thats Greasy ! lol

[@79sdavis]

Hopefully your wife does not watch your videos otherwise she will know that your projects in the garage don't take as long as you claim! 🍺 😁

[@79sdavis]

But seriously. Great tip for when electrical components not working as they should!

[@Maritimer]

thanks buddy !!!! the wife watches some of my videos so she might find out my secret haha thanks for the comment !

[@blazersatving2941]

Hey bud love your videos and I want a few of your stickers do ya sell them I'll etransfer a few bucks to get them message me plz

[@Maritimer]

hey Blaze, No i don't sell em, I Do give them away from time to time, if you want to give me your address, i'll put it with a few others I have and I will send some stickers out once im back from Winnipeg. If you don't want to post it on here you can email me at [e-mail]. Thanks for the support !

[@blazersatving2941]

Email send big thx

[@grousehunter67]

Well the way the Leaf's are playing you and me to are going to have a lot of atv time lol ha baseball now go redsox , electrical apprentice ?

[@Maritimer]

hahahaha oh man i've got to block and delete you now.... lol GO LEAFS !!! gonna be a tough road with Boston though. I don't watch much Ball, but I usually cheer for the Blue jays, and if not them, I usually cheer for the Sox, I've always been a Boston fan with Hockey, baseball haha No its almost like Electrical, but its Signals and communication with the railway, so its a lot of electronics along with electrical.

[@grousehunter67]

oh I am a life long leafs fan @@Maritimer just realistic of this team , ya an life long red sox fan , blue jays baha never love my leafs thou ! good luck with your courses

[@Maritimer]

@@grousehunter67 Ohhhh nice !!! Yeah I think the leafs are a good team for sure, but they are still lacking in defence, I think anderson played so well all year, it made up for the weak defence and now that Anderson isn't standing on his head making saves.... it shows the weakness in defence. I'd love to see the Leafs trade Nylander (as good as he is) for a good #1 or #2 D-man. just my opinion though. Also Anderson isn't getting any younger.... I wonder how much longer he can play.

[@grousehunter67]

ya true I think there biggest mistake was not making Nylander sit the rest of the year @@Maritimer

[@kractass]

Always talk to myself 😜.

[@Maritimer]

haha ok ok I'm not the only one lol

[@hainesy67]

Greasy

[@Maritimer]

haha TPB fan?

[@hainesy67]

@@Maritimer haven't seen for a long time but I loved it m8