5.4 Destruction Warlock DPS Guide - Warcraft Academy

[@DooMERful]

man this guy surely knows his warlock

[@TommyF4]

I have 7 lvl 90's, and ive seen most guides of all the classes. YOU SIR, have one of the best guide ive seen inawhile. Subscribed

[@XiGlenGu]

So far the best guide i have watched for destro lock.

[@kassabis]

I stopped playing about 2y ago and I was demo. Just got back and with this tutorial, I managed to go up to 120k with my old 505 gear. Thanks a lot. Very helpful.

[@Mastashad160]

Awesome guide. You pointed out a lot of little things that would have taken weeks to notice on my own.

[@Qwertyzionxd]

Hey ! This is a really nice guide, I just would like to share my havoc macro with you ,its a bit more complex but very useful ! #showtooltip Havoc /cast [mod:shift,@focus][@mouseover,harm[] Havoc What it does,is : If you have an enemy targeted,you cast Havoc on it If you have a target mouseover, you cast Havoc on that If you have focus target and you press your macro with shift modifier ( e.g. shift+q) , You cast Havoc on your focus target. I hope its helpful and good luck ,keep it up with your vids !

[@Oddie_021]

This one works the exact same way as urs except for no need to press shift if u got a enemy on focus and put ur mouseover another one u havoc ur mouseover target if u have a focus target and u don't mouseover u do it on the focus target and so on and so on #showtooltip havoc /cast [target=mouseover, exists] havoc /cast [target=focus, harm][harm] havoc /cast havoc

[@evreliagaming]

If you check the gem section, the expertise gems are mentioned, including an explanation of when to use them. Not to mention that it's not just as simple as "stacking expertise". This is only useful if it does allow you to reforge out of hit into more Mastery on your gear. If you are not able to do that, for example if you're already fully reforged out of hit and fully reforged into Mastery, you won't gain anything by doing so. You have to think about it a bit :)

[@Rompelstaump]

Thank you for making all the great videos! It really helps me play better. The video also gives me a solid point of reference when I try to help other players understand what is expected of them when they play this class/spec in a raid capacity.

[@Black14825]

Lol at the mage at 12:47 taking the bomb directly on his face. Btw great guide it helped me a lot!

[@Jasaface]

love the topic selection at the top

[@ParanoidPothead]

Does anyone else have problems with occasionally falling through the water with the warlock mount walk on water glyph?

[@evreliagaming]

Yup.

[@wtflasergunpewpew]

it's because u took damage, unmount and try again -u'll see.

[@Dreamchime]

As far as I know, you will fall through the water if you stop moving.

[@lilkick255]

no, u can stop moving but if you face or look down you will fall in. unlike when you take damage though you can pop back up and walk without dismounting. If you take any damage even small fall damage you have to dismount and remount.

[@PlastKladd]

It could be because you're holding your right mouse button down and looking down too much which will result in the mount diving.

[@grzala19]

Good old times

[@Ulandos]

Thank you for this guide. Helped a lot :)

[@quinlintaylor]

This is a great guide, thank you once again warcraft academy.

[@evreliagaming]

I don't know why people keep saying this, but all the Engi perk is a Glove tinker, and all tinkers also stack with standard enchants.

[@evreliagaming]

That question is answered in the video. Depends on the situation.

[@trygaeyheryqy]

Most guides for patch 5.3 said that the stat prio was Haste > Mastery > Crit, but now alot of them state that in patch 5.4 the stat prio is Mastery > Crit > Haste. What changed? is it the warlock class or because of the SoO raid mechanics?

[@evreliagaming]

You can Spam them. There was a hypothetical situation a while ago where you could clip it if you cast one and the boss travelled towards you extremely quickly as you cast the second, but that's just never going to happen.

[@celladify]

It wasn't just time management. It was the "real life" change of character. The anger.

[@evreliagaming]

That is a good suggestion, I'll add them to the written guide.

[@Akecheta230]

I am curious as to know what add-ons you're using...

[@Mattey245]

Can you please post your hidden bars keybinds and spells ? or at least the hidden keybinds

[@hxigg]

Do you think demonology is too neutered to use in 5.4? It's my favorite spec, but I have to try really hard to pull off 30k less dps than my destruction spec can pull off when I'm not even trying with my destruction spec....

[@Kadotas]

Thank you for the guide evrelia! And congrats on Garrosh kill!!!!

[@pongueurlacoste]

You will most likely be already fully reforged into mastery, but what makes these gems interesting is the fact that your "second best" secondary stat (crit or haste) is still better than 50% of int, because you're effectively trading 80int for 160 haste/crit by putting such a gem on.

[@EnderDragon]

I have been trying to get Weak Auras (2 now) set up for my Warlock, but have failed in every attempt. Would you be able to provide a link to your WA setup?

[@husky7876]

does chaos bolt snapshot your stats like immolate?

[@evreliagaming]

At the exact second the cast is finished, it snapshots your stats

[@TheGamerReaper]

Warlock UI and addon guide please :D

[@FoxLightstep]

This.

[@someidiotinnj]

He already did one a while ago look up "How Your UI Can Help You DPS"

[@sceneCatgirl]

You mention that either the legs or chest are the optimal off pieces, but wouldn't it be better to go for WF shoulders since the tier shoulders are the only tier piece that doesn't have mastery?

[@Mrkookers]

yes plz any help on addons specialy if there is one that shows very well when trinket procs hit or any cooldowns

[@JixMM]

hi can you tell me your macros and addons? this was pretty nice 

[@danieltsmoke]

when you use fire and brimstone, and say you use it on like 8 mobs with incinerate, will you get 8 emberbits? Or.... ?

[@DeepSpaceBeans]

probably more than 8, since crits will produce double. Ideally, when you have a large add aoe burn phase, if you immolate and keep rain of fire up, you can stay in fire and brimstone indefinitely. Much better than how the spell used to work.

[@isoking9727]

Ahh I miss the day ..:(

[@danloader5821]

What Addons are most beneficial for destro locks in the sense of tracking Procs and multi-dots?

[@jeffreykurtz635]

I noticed you didnt mention the frenzied crystal of rage in the gear section is that because its not a viable trinket?

[@xDFoRcEzZ]

That is some crazy ass crits

[@rasmusknutmejer4391]

A great guide! But you forget one thing. Grimoire of Sacrifice Chaos Bolt debuff on target. If you cast Chaos Bolt twice in a row without anything in between the debuffs final tick wont happen. Always cast an Incinirate in between your Chaos Bolts.

[@evreliagaming]

That's not true. If you cast Chaos Bolts back to back it is impossible to clip the debuff of the previous one unless the boss moves towards you a significant distance between the casts.

[@rasmusknutmejer4391]

Depending on the distance to the boss ofcourse. But remember, the final tick is always when the DoT finishes! But I feel you bro.. I feel you

[@evreliagaming]

Rasmus Knutmejer It doesn't depend on the distance to boss. The time taken for the Chaos Bolt to travel will be the same relative. The only way for it to be clipped is if the boss moves towards you a significant distance in between the two casts - not going to happen unless the boss is enraged and charging at you.

[@diegorueda5047]

@@evreliagaming .

[@mustikat]

Is there any way to get your WTF folder and addon list ?

[@evreliagaming]

It is minimal, but it's still better. Likewise, so is the difference between haste and crit. In fact, if you care about that, you should definitely care about using the correct meta.

[@outlawbogz]

The Conflag glyph is useful too at times too. For instance on dark shamans when you want to AOE snare the adds but dont have time or embers to waste applying immolate

[@ygar]

quick question... why tailoring and engineering? Thought the back enchant/tinker can't stack?

[@ThrishWoW]

Ever gonna do a demo lock guide? :)

[@kristinaplays2924]

At 11.43 you say cast incinerate and immolate so that they both land on the start of the fight. How can you cast these two at the same time?

[@husky7876]

incinerate takes a couple seconds to reach its target, so while the incinerate projectile is traveling you can squeeze an immolate in.

[@ФедорХолодов-ф3в]

Can you please share the addon setup you used for this video?

[@seandillon2555]

Hey what do u use for reforge and gems MrRobot icy-veins or just from ur pov

[@JoachimBach]

What set is that shown on the two warlocks in the end of the movie? They look BRILLIANT! :)

[@Nunchukd]

You are correct. Personally I would roll with GoSac only once I started to get closer to BiS gear and was using the Burning Primal Diamond.

[@chagagar]

can anyone tell me wich addons he is using to show his trinket proccs and cooldowns?

[@outlawbogz]

Also you want to stack expertise over intellect. As 2 points of mastery is more beneficial than 1 point on intel. So you stack expertise to reforge the hit back in mastery.

[@erickemmerling9124]

If you are going with a Crit>Mastery build you wouldnt take that chest you would take the shoulders off norushen and keep your tier chest since it has basically the same stats

[@ekilam1able]

Isnt crit much better than haste for GoSac due to back draft? With high haste and meta proc/hero it will put your cast BELOW the GCD. Would that not be a DPS loss?

[@casperyap]

Hi, can i check what the frame addon did you use?

[@adioprotege]

I am currently wearing 561 Rime-Rift shoulders and 567 wf Ulmass’ Robes of Crushing Magma. My question is would it be better to replace the chest with 561 tier and the shoulders with flex tier to gain the 4 pc bonus?

[@evreliagaming]

Then you checked a very long time ago, because Expertise gives Spell Hit and has done for this entire expansion.

[@jamiearnold1075]

What is the interface HUD add on you are using? it looks great

[@christianlandmann9759]

Can you tell me the addons pls or if you have a video about that?

[@georgemartin9696]

Question, You say to cast a chaos bolt when at less then 3 stacks of back draft, is this only for the opening or should I cast chaos bolt evertime I am under 3 stacks, reason I am asking is because my dps is low in raids, also my main is a healer, but I got the 90 boost and am trying to switch to this class. Please any advice would be helpful.

[@evreliagaming]

I think you have misunderstood. What I'm saying is that it's preferable to cast Chaos Bolt when you have under 3 stacks of Backdraft, but that alone does not determine when you Chaos Bolt. Intellect procs are 99% of the deciding factor. You wouldn't Chaos Bolt just because you had 2 stacks if you had no int procs. Watch this video through a few times, and if you're still struggling, may I recommend my personal training :)

[@LeMeAndLeAwesomeness]

What is the addon you use to keep track of your embers?

[@shinraninja]

what % of crit and haste do u use ? ive tried simcraft its stupidly different all teh time

[@MrGundy081]

very nice vid. the interface looks very good to me. can i get it as pack for a download anywhere?

[@sydorack]

hey, what potion you use to start the rotation? i don't understand the name :x

[@Eindridi1661]

a shift focus target macro for havoc works much better, it only targets your focus if you shift click it, so you can use it like normal if for some reason you don't need to put it on your focus target. it really just saves a button slot.

[@nadendas]

i use the mouse over macro and should i ever go back to the focus macro i'll cry

[@michaelcliburn966]

You didn't mention Frenzied Crystal of Rage, is this trinket better than others for heavy aoe fights such as Galakras?

[@kannjc]

Can I know the name of background musics?

[@hestekadaver]

anyone wo could gime some tips to what i need to have on my actionbars and hotbuttons mainly?

[@mikefantos2878]

Hello mate. got a question about the prismatic socket for head item. do you think legendary gem is better than the burning primal diamond?

[@firebreathingfirebreather4042]

No 3% crit is better than 30% spellhaste

[@ruchem71]

Is there an addon that can be used that will place the trinket/process icons in the middle of the screen so you can see them better? Great guide! Thanks.

[@Eva_xoxo]

You are wrong when you say that Fire and brimstone doesnt benefit from grimoire of sac, because you do get a DPS increase from your spells AOE. This was a buff some months ago, other than that good guide.

[@evreliagaming]

Grimoire of Sacrifice does nothing for AoE. Test it out. The change you are referring to was a bug where it incorrectly REDUCED spell damage. Now it just does nothing.

[@lilkick255]

if you look at the sacrifice talent it will tell you straight out it doesn't effect the aoe damage of fire and brimstone

[@diegorueda5047]

@@lilkick255 .

[@robertoloborosas5592]

hii! I liked the video very useful :D Can u tell me what addons are you using ,look here 10:45 just the procs and dots pls :3

[@saminski4149]

is there any way to get his interface? i love it, but its fairly hard to recreate on your own

[@HenshenKlein]

So you should dump embers when you are reaching 4 even without good procs?

[@MrPondax]

What addons are you using to show the duration of Immolate etc?

[@connornichel]

Wow, 1 million critical strikes with the Chaos Bolt. Impressive

[@batterypower90]

alot if good information, but care to talk abit about the 4 set? how/if u change the roation with it, and if so what u do different with it.

[@TehSqueakySniper]

How come you've not mentioned the trinket from Malkorak? I would have thought that one would have been a better choice that Kardis

[@PunkyVoodoo]

I am really struggling with my dps, i use Mrrobot for my enchants and reforges and i am 100% currently, im only averaging 140-170k dps as 549 destro..i know i dont have the best trinkets but really struggling to do dps equivalent to my level. My rotation is correct as well as all glyphs and talents too so i am really confused..

[@10nicbet01]

***** Same here, came to watch this vid since I'm hitting only ~ 150k on a fight like Malkorok at 549 ilvl. Simulationcraft tells me that I ought to do 253k ...

[@PunkyVoodoo]

i got bindings of immerseus normal trink and now im doing literally 50k more dps on average. That trinket is basically the way to go..hope that helped :)

[@Shevchenkocss]

Hi great guide got some usefull tips here. One question what pet do you use ?

[@evreliagaming]

There is a video on this channel somewhere that explains all my addons

[@Kenziex123]

Wow, beautiful guide... please make more!

[@adioprotege]

in order to cleave with shadowburn do both targets need to be under 20%

[@fatnerd5883]

Como ele esta tirando 2 milhões na seta do Caos e 300+ no incinerar ?

[@evreliagaming]

There's no reason why you shouldn't use GoSac before BiS, especially given the nature of most SoO encounters.

[@Xadanar]

I have a question why are orange Intel Exper gems better than pure intel gems?????

[@evreliagaming]

Because the Expertise allows you to reforge out of Hit on your gear into more Mastery. Two points of Mastery is better than one point of Intellect.

[@horde453]

Is it worth it to replace normal gear with LFR/Flex gear to get the 4-set bonus?

[@MichaelMoore497]

Very nice tutorial! It's a little advanced for me but I learned a lot. Still, I had to pause it, go look things up, like "whats a snapshot?" I feel like I was in the 102 class when I should have been the 101 class. If you could recommend something a little more basic, that would be great. Thanks again.

[@Viperman507]

Hey evrelia, with grimoire of sacifice u use it with aoe kinda fights right? and for single target fights do u use Supremacy?

[@iSongzHD]

dude, is the difference between 535 and BiS really that high? I crit 950k with everything up, trinkets, pots included... and then I see a 2.3million crit... jjessus

[@olan59]

You got strings on the weakauras you are useing? :)

[@HolydefeatGaming]

The mouseover Havoc marco do not work on my warlock can youv help my?

[@NyanBlaze]

#showtooltip Havoc /cast [target=mouseover, exists] Havoc

[@pking5]

When you choose the talent Grimoire of Supremacy, the Observer will take the place of your Fel Hunter.

[@Mike399za]

What interface addons are you using here? If you could make an addon section to the guide, that'd be amazing :P Otherwise this is most likely the best Destro guide I've come across.

[@hjwpumps9574]

Do you think I should just build up to 4 embers then chaos bolt?

[@evreliagaming]

It was explained pretty clearly when you should Chaos Bolt

[@desijavier]

thanks for the guide! i have a noob question though; how do you summon the observer pet as a destruction warlock? i only see my imp, voidwalker, felhunter, and succubus available for summoning :s thanks in advance

[@RupeeNL]

I'm been following this guide but I still find it hard to reach high dps. Do you think it's a gear thing as well (currently 486)?

[@chrisholmes9082]

Where are his ember on his UI ?. I cant seem to find them :/

[@IzzLeedz]

they are on his nameplate on the bottom left,the red bars just below his mana :)

[@brut1s]

great video Evrelia, thanks for your great insight :)!

[@Gilroc64]

you should really provide information on your UI on the website you provided, and possibly a link to your weak auras strings, otherwise, good work

[@Petruify]

where do u have your shadowburn binded ? i can't see it

[@evreliagaming]

Most of my spells are on a hidden bar. I have Shadowburn bound to "T"

[@miladsamimi4999]

Hi,thank you guys this was really helpful. i just wanted to ask you what is the name of addon's you are using for your DoTs and UI in this video...

[@liskrig]

I just started playing again, and I rolled a warlock (lvl 25)... I had to respec to Destruction from Affliction because I just wasn't doing any damage. Is that right? lol

[@bajshonas]

when levelling, there's always a spec that will gain its trait abilities first. For warlock, affliction gets its traits last of the three.

[@liskrig]

Jonas Jakobsson That makes a lot of sense, I changed to destruction, and now I'm top of the DPS charts (for what it's worth at my level) all the time. Thanks for the reply! :)