Very good guide! I haven't played my pally for over a year and needed a refresher course. Thank you so much. :D
@keeperoflenneth10 жыл бұрын
Well this makes me happy, this is the third video I've watched, and this is pretty much what im doing. I just need to be better at keeping inquisition up, and using TV at 5 instead of "when i can." i think that's where my dead spots are coming from. My gear is pretty terrible, currently following a guide on fast gearups, but almost everyone I've come across, save hunters and mages of equal gear i end up out-dpsing with this basic idea. Thanks for a high quality vid. :)
@Samplifieed10 жыл бұрын
It is possible to build up holy power pre-pull using 4 set holy pvp gear! Its kinda annoying but definitely worth it!
@evreliagaming10 жыл бұрын
Crusader Strike procs your Mastery, Judgment does not, so you have to factor that in to Crusader Strike's damage. The other thing is If you use judgment > Crusader Strike, they will both come off cooldown at the same time, which means you're not generating the maximum amount of Holy Power. If you use Crusader Strike > Judgment, Crusader Strike will come off cooldown before Judgment and you won't overlap them. Refer to other comment for your other question.
@evreliagaming10 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there! It's being done by Tazmon, who seems to have had Rank 1 on basically every fight at some point or another, and comes recommended by Fragnance, so I'm confident he knows what he's talking about!
@shobyrouge10 жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention divine protection as one of the "utility/cooldown" abilities. Very useful in reducing dmg due to it's short cd.
@evreliagaming10 жыл бұрын
Just desync them. Pop both on pull, then Wings, Guardian, Wings, and then they line up again after that. Only exception would be if there's a particular burn phase you need them both for.
@evreliagaming10 жыл бұрын
The Demo guide is not super high on priority atm. Got the Klaxxi Heroic Guide coming next, then Feral Druid, then Demo after that.
@ericcorder908310 жыл бұрын
Do you plan on making a Holy Paladin Class Guide? I love the details you use, and the explanation of why you do each thing. I love free information, and you make some excellent guides! I would love to see a Holy Paladin Guide in the future. Cheers
@evreliagaming10 жыл бұрын
Around 40%, you'll almost never have empty global cooldowns (And with 4set it will take up one as well) so increasing haste will result in abilities overlapping (coming off cooldown at the same time)/not be noticed, so the increase isn't as great as mastery at this point
@evreliagaming10 жыл бұрын
I'm on the lookout
@evreliagaming10 жыл бұрын
Stream is on Hiatus. I don't really have anything to stream in WoW and haven't found another game to fill the void just yet.
@fuckfacefaggotbreath81433 жыл бұрын
coming back to my ret adn this helped, ty :)
@carykious424510 жыл бұрын
awesome guide and tyvm
@operatordw514010 жыл бұрын
wowo man thanks a lot for your time and help that help me a lot to be come good dps thanks
@Auroraaahh10 жыл бұрын
Some things I don't feel are correct, or don't fully understand and being naive about: Haste is our best stat, so why stop at 40% (with the 4set which I do have)..when we could still increase the GCD on our abilities? - Also, I don't prioritize CS over Judgment because Judgment always hits harder when I analyse my WoL data, even with the mastery buff, it still doesn't hit as hard,
@Seehoo10 жыл бұрын
12 seconds in and I like it already.
@aeliar935910 жыл бұрын
Thank you !! this helped me A LOT !!
@karlzone210 жыл бұрын
Nice. It's about time there's a proper feral guide as a video. So many small ways to maximize, they really add up in the end. Uhm is Tazmon a new? I've only started noticing him on logs this tier (on top at least). Also yay frags.
@SlippySlippy10 жыл бұрын
nice, cant wait for Hpally guide:D
@evreliagaming10 жыл бұрын
Heh, I need to think of something to stream! Don't really have anything to stream in WoW atm :)
@MrKevo5610 жыл бұрын
50% haste with raid buff or without? id assume with but just making sure. Awesome guide once again
@MrKevo5610 жыл бұрын
Which directly scales up melee haste...
@jamessly339910 жыл бұрын
Without, the "haste" buff isn't haste, it's attack speed
@karlzone210 жыл бұрын
Recon that would be interesting to watch? High end soloing however
@ZombiesXVids10 жыл бұрын
damn very nice guide helped me a lot thank you
@azlacer3410 жыл бұрын
Very good video! I was wondering if you are going to start streaming again? Or have you given up on that? :)
Or what you can do is. get CLCRet and Reforge Lite, and from there your basicly done.
@Zoggosh10 жыл бұрын
proving grounds endless maybe? Love the class guides btw, keep them coming!
@tomsmith107110 жыл бұрын
Get a good rogue to help you on a rogue guide Evrelia :)
@Vollker32310 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your guide, but have 2 things that I think work better overall. First, you skipped over Long Arm of the Law, but it is a decently high speed buff on a 6 second cooldown, only limited if there is no target in the area. The second is instead of using Divine storm with 2+ targets, it should only be used with 3+ targets. since Templars verdict is 275% weapon damage, and Divine storm is 100% weapon damage, using it with 2 mobs would be a 75% weapon damage loss per use. If anyone has any valid arguments or suggestions as to these choices, or other discrepancies they see, I would love to see them. I have no problem being wrong if it makes me better.
@evreliagaming10 жыл бұрын
You're not looking at the big picture. Divine Storm is Holy damage, which makes it benefit from Inquisition, which also makes the damage from your Mastery higher too.
@EdilarinProducts10 жыл бұрын
***** that and with tier 16 4 set bonus you should use divine storm for the 50% damage increase
@RoemelloDouglas10 жыл бұрын
In other words 2targets Divine storm proc 150%+150% = 300% so he's not wrong
@dzundaza10 жыл бұрын
Good video but do you think you can finish thr warlock guides before starting another class? Plz
@bailsing10 жыл бұрын
ok only one question if I have 5 holy power and my holy power builders are not on CD do I want to use tier 16 4 piece or do I want to Templars build it again then use divine storm? sorry if this is confusing and this guide is really helpful I will for sure show it to any ret player. also just by building 5 holy power instead of 3 I went up about 8-10k dps so thanks a ton.
@natuurgeluiden471210 жыл бұрын
Wil tere be a holy paladin guide also
@VarnoDecanius10 жыл бұрын
Okay, I played retail up to cataclysm 434 patch quited around before released of the mop. I'm curious why haste must be all the way up 50% ? Like speed of the attack? and not sure I understood it correctly why not crit ?
@donnalail12610 жыл бұрын
Why is crit lowest? I've always been told to stack it and its worked pretty well for me.
@evreliagaming10 жыл бұрын
How do you know it's worked well until you've tested the others? ;) It's a simple case of maths really. Haste and Mastery contribute more to your damage than Crit does. Haste lets you use almost all of your rotational abilities more often, and your Mastery increases your Holy damage which works well with Inquisition.
@therealndjira9 жыл бұрын
+Donna Lail He sounds so damn convincing xD
@bojaber57010 жыл бұрын
i have a question... what buff should i use BOK gives higher dmg and DPS but BOM gives 10% mastery that will increase the dmg of the three spells
@Vezerate10 жыл бұрын
will you stream soon? you're amazing!
@tbrizzo10 жыл бұрын
the command "ds_4t16_5hpaw" doesn't work for me... It says "clcretmodule - invalid action: ds_4t16_5hpaw" That command is not showing on the Legend list either... Any ideas? Is there a lua edit I need to do or something? Nice guide btw! Keep it up!
@steeltalon73824 жыл бұрын
what about pvp ?
@andersiversen285710 жыл бұрын
Should i dump my haste to 40% if i have 4 set bonus? Also if i have a proc from my 4 set bonus and a proc from divine purpose, i want to use my divine storm proc first?
@ryanlucas550410 жыл бұрын
Dakeshi, is crusader and judgment more priority then exorcism?
@Lichbane110 жыл бұрын
What is the add on you use? Does it cast for you, or is it just telling you what to press?
@Xartos0910 жыл бұрын
will u make a classguide for every class?
@jim-gv8gk3 жыл бұрын
I miss MoP :(
@mirkomilic481010 жыл бұрын
Dakeshi, can You tell me why You went for 45% haste, dropped mastery and went up to 9.30% expertise? I'm kinda sitting @ 39% haste and 55% mastery unbuffed and I like it there, but if there's a way to improve, I'd like to know. ^^
@Xintatheinsane10 жыл бұрын
Do a ww monk plox, there's isn't really any good dps monks that i have been able to find aside from Justmonk in Method
@clintmartin309010 жыл бұрын
Alright so my brother is stacking nothing but pure haste, he's 559 at the moment. Would it benefit him more to get the set bonuses or just keep the straight haste?
@CCCaps10 жыл бұрын
I dont get how people say Crusader strike over exorcism and judgment in dmg. My exorcism does 15k more dmg and judgment around 2k more. I do however prioties crusader strike of the 3 just because its cooldown is lower meaning it will be up again quicker for max holy power gains. There might a more efficient way, this works for me though, but what you telling me about most powerfull spell doesnt :o
@MiniSaund10 жыл бұрын
Crusader Strike procs the mastery whereas Judgment and Exorcism don't is my guess
@FreshKicksOnTheCourt10 жыл бұрын
Crusader Strike also does holy damage which does not show on damage meters, it counts as holy light damage. If you calculate the mastery percentage with your crusader strike hits you will notice it being significantly higher than exorcism or judgement.
@ivangadzhanov Жыл бұрын
People say Ret palas aren't good.
@DuffiiiBeer10 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know if CLCRet is worth using, also how to customize it - if you can make time to respond via personal message that would be highly appreciated, thanks.
@karlzone210 жыл бұрын
Unexpected :D good work
@karlzone210 жыл бұрын
Uhh you better get the feral guide right. If it's not, I will come to its youtube page and "rip" it to pieces.
@WJS649510 жыл бұрын
ty for guide
@blckheart7010 жыл бұрын
Wait what.. you made a ret guide before a demo lock guide? ouch my feelings
@mirkomilic481010 жыл бұрын
Why does everyone go above 45% haste all of a sudden? :s
@fallenhw10 жыл бұрын
whats 50% of haste?
@jako99710 жыл бұрын
Wait so is there any Dps rotation adon to help you during fights to tell you what ability to use next ??? please let me know asap
@Pazahhaha10 жыл бұрын
it's called clcret but make sure you read below as dake says the one in the vid is now incorrect and you will need to update it as he posted below.
@Dvel2810 жыл бұрын
WHATS THE MUSIC ?
@Gyousel10 жыл бұрын
read guild chat at 13:30
@XulinGaming10 жыл бұрын
Hello guys can i ask how ret paladins are doing overall at pve wise compared other dps classes .? looking some fun mellee class to play and allso decent i maining a hunter atm but want allso 1 mellee and rets seems fun but i hear a lot QQ thatswhi asking here hope u can advice me litle and help
@faction585010 жыл бұрын
Currently, they scale very well, so at low gear levels it can be hard to do top DPS, but if you play it well then it's not impossible, but like i said they scale very well. That being said, they do have a lot of utility so they are a good addition to a raid group, and they are also a tonne of fun :) I would recommend. Please note that i have both warrior and DK alts and in my opinion, neither of them are as fun as ret!
@genericgoogleimage536510 жыл бұрын
omg so good ill be pro in no time
@iRock_XL10 жыл бұрын
What's the CLCRet string you use. Same question as Asher Lilly I guess. Thanks :-)
@Pazahhaha10 жыл бұрын
***** tried Inq es ds_4t16_5hp tv5 how ds_4t16_5hpaw tvaw cs j ds_4t16 exo tv3 but the ds_4t16_5hpaw was invalid any suggestion?
@johnbarker894410 жыл бұрын
Pazahhaha did u ever get a response to this?
@karlzone210 жыл бұрын
Ignore the "a"
@rzvee9 жыл бұрын
addons?
@Sabenn10 жыл бұрын
DANG IT! So with this guild...Im assuming you wont make a Demo lock guide...QQQQQQQQQ I miss my main spec so much.
@Cyberchase10 жыл бұрын
*spends lots of time leveling pali* *gets pali to lvl 73* *realizes that he has terrible gear* *goes to trade chat for advice* *just get gear with +strength and +stamina* *ends up realizing that I am using vanilla gear* *still doesnt know how to fucking play ret pali still after months of work*
@Rockyzach8810 жыл бұрын
You should not be worrying about gear at lvl 73. The quests literally take care of when it comes to gear.
@Cyberchase10 жыл бұрын
Rockyzach88 I know but I have been just doing dungeon after dungeon not the quests. They are too boring. So really I dont know where the quests leave off
@Thetalkingblanket10 жыл бұрын
ChaseZymase You'll need to balance both. Questing gives some really good gear to help tide you over while you gather gear from dungeons. If you are 73 that means you are in Outlands, no? Those aren't the most enjoyable quests and you just need to choke them down. But in the end you will get some nice gear.
@Cyberchase10 жыл бұрын
Thetalkingblanket Ok thanks!
@EdilarinProducts10 жыл бұрын
you want HARD cap on expertise, meaning 15%.
@andrewwoods5649 жыл бұрын
15%? Wtf
@evreliagaming10 жыл бұрын
ScrubBusters, everyone.
@bigbird44710 жыл бұрын
Your priority list is fundamentally wrong, sorry.
@evreliagaming10 жыл бұрын
/facepalm
@bigbird44710 жыл бұрын
Exorcism is never at the bottom, because it's cooldown can reset itself. Also, with the tier 16 set bonus, you want your "generate as much holy power during the encounter as possible" to instead be "Spend as much holy power as possible on abilities that deal damage". Why? Because Templars hits harder than any holy power generating ability (except hammer of wrath, but you got that part right), and your Templars can proc the tier set bonus, which makes divine storm free and, funny enough, also deal more damage than any holy power generating ability (again, except hammer). If you're using divine purpose, this is even more important, as by the time your procs on procs are done proccing themselves, one of your holy power generating abilities will likely be off cooldown anyway and so trying to gain as much holy power as possible will end up in you having 5 holy power, all of your generators off cooldown, and all of your procs active. Congratz, your screen is shiny but your dps is lower than mine.
@evreliagaming10 жыл бұрын
No offense, buddy, but I trust Paladins from world top 10 guilds (by whom this was written) more than I trust you, and if you knew that much about paladins you wouldn't be watching guides about them. The reason you want to maximise the amount of Holy Power generation is SO that you can spend the maximum amount of Holy Power per fight. There is no point using TV at 3HP if you have holy power generators available and off cd, for example, because you'll get fewer TV's throughout the fight as a result. This is explained very clearly.
@evreliagaming10 жыл бұрын
Also your exorcism logic is funny :3
@bigbird44710 жыл бұрын
The reason using spenders > using generators is based off your procs, not the pre-tier 16 4set logic. Generators > spenders is right for pre 4set, but with the 4set you want spenders because of procs, again, especially with divine purpose. This isn't an argument. Clearly you are not a "world top 10 paladin" or anywhere close to that because if you were you'd be questioning the logic in this video. World of logs and other sites can break down the ability use for you and can prove that I'm right when you see how much damage divine storm is doing on fights like h imm, spoils, siegecrafter, etc. Yeah buddy, I'm gonna use a silly hammer of the righteous when I have 4set+ divine purpose procced and waiting just because its off cooldown. Haha, okayyy...
@parousinastheocharis541810 жыл бұрын
verdammte werbung
@rowe90539 жыл бұрын
Hey nice video like always! this is my new channel and I have just uploaded my first pvp video, I would really appreciate it if you checked it out and gave it some exposure of you liked it! Thanks in advance. -Rowe