BTW this is the puller in the video OTC 6667 Harmonic Damper Puller www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000P6UT2I/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@karljonas70182 жыл бұрын
I’m just reassembling Ram 5.7 after tearing the motor down. Rebuilt the heads, new cam & lifters. Dropped the trans, replaced all motor and drive train seals and a bunch of other incidental maintenance & repairs. Chilton manual 20405 says, on page 2B-8, the spring side of the seal in towards the engine. So the install in this video appears correct. My mahle seal has a seal lip on both sides. I originally installed it opposite of this video. After second guessing myself I found this vid and reversed it. I nicked up the face of the new seal a little getting it out. I’ll probably go to the dealer and get a mopar seal and ask the mechanic for clarification on orientation. But like I said, Chilton says spring side in. Thanks for the video!
@ryanericw5 ай бұрын
exactly, this lip is very misleading, maybe all of them don't look like this one I used, but the spring side always faces the crankcase, which is what I did in this video
@glockman80913 жыл бұрын
I think I’m the second one to say that the seal was installed backwards…the protruding part of the seal that touches the shaft on any seal goes towards the engine so there’s not a chance of oil getting past. I’ve installed these seals more than once.
@somanynamesilltrythis01805 жыл бұрын
Well, this video help me considering I've never replaced the crank seal in my 2005 4.7 V8 Ram. Thanks for the video, it really helped. Sidenote for anyone who has the same issue I did, I had to go to AutoZone and had a hell of a time finding the right puller I needed. I ended up having to combine 3 kits, 27306, 27139, and kit 27019. Combined (removal and installation) they work and just like the guy in this video, I didn't remove anything other than the belt and it took less than 2hrs.
@ryanericw5 жыл бұрын
It's not backwards. Someone probably put yours in backwards. Look at the image here: www.walmart.com/ip/Genuine-OE-Mopar-Front-Crank-Seal-53021585AD/280846373?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=100001408&adid=22222222227286025645&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=344660656041&wl4=pla-704045576345&wl5=1016783&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=129377702&wl11=online&wl12=280846373&veh=sem&gclid=Cj0KCQjwyLDpBRCxARIsAEENsrLc39ccEbpoJemPIFrPh4sBT6kB5iEi4QbVadMke3bktEzjRx6D5NEaAvt2EALw_wcB The spring for the seal always goes inside
@somanynamesilltrythis01805 жыл бұрын
@@ryanericw I see your point. Your seal just looks different than the one I installed. The spring in my seal was facing inwards. My apologies, you're right.
@mrhyde0705 Жыл бұрын
Had a shop do my new balancer because I didn't wanna hear the wife complain about more random parts in the garage, now it's leaking from under. Gotta get it a diaper until I can get it back and have them replace the seal. No new car parts in the garage but there is a small pond forming under my yacht 😂
@danielaugust39662 жыл бұрын
Sorry to be a downer but you did install that seal backwards.... i have built multiple rams and commanders and if you would like to check on it you can google 5.7 timing cover with seal it will show you the proper install direction.... would just hate to see someone install it that way and have it leak....... sorry to throw shade because the video had good tips but when you flip that seal and use a socket you will damage the seal dust ring......
@jaybee58325 жыл бұрын
I've replaced many many seals. This seal was obviously installed correctly. Depending on the brand of seal you are using, it may have a circular protrusion on the outside of the seal that may make appear to be Installed incorrectly. The sure way to have it correctly positioned is for the Spring side to be on the inside not air side. Paying attention upon removal is also worth noting.
@murderyurface35954 жыл бұрын
What if the ‘spring side’ was on the air side when the timing cover came off and the driver hadn’t complained of an oil leak yet did complain abt excessive noise from the timing gear? According to him, I’m the first mechanic he’s had change the CS seal on his 5.7 Hemi...
@LS-Noe12002 жыл бұрын
Is this the same for 6.1 hemi
@dred5375 Жыл бұрын
The seal is installed backwards, I guarantee it!
@jaybee5832 Жыл бұрын
@@dred5375Lmao! Not.
@dred5375 Жыл бұрын
@@jaybee5832 I am looking at one right now from the factory! Lmao your wrong, the metal flashing that's on the seal goes towards the motor the lip seal faces out towards the crank pulley! This is a factory built motor that's never been apart! I am 100% positive that the seal in the video is backwards
@karljonas70182 жыл бұрын
A follow up to my comment a day ago about the seal orientation. I went to dodge a picked up a new mopar front seal. Unfortunately the mechanics were gone so I couldn’t pick their brain. And parts didn’t have a detail diagram. But they did have a timing chain cover with seal already installed. And it was installed the opposite way. The smooth side with the larger seal lips in towards the motor. My other comment was about Chilton saying “spring side” inside towards motor isn’t to helpful. This mopar seal doesn’t have a spring like some of the other shaft seals in the drivetrain. It just has a steel band running the OD with the seal molded around it. I’m not saying you did it wrong. And you commented in part 2 of this vid that it hasn’t leaked yet, so I say send it!
@tejanschaar1705 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video and the good intentions, however you did, indeed put that seal in backwards. Seals are never cup out and the seal always applies inward where the pressure is applied.
@GarcBomber3 жыл бұрын
Seal is most definitely backwards, numbers/letters always facing visible. Double seal lip so probably didn’t leak bad if someone was putzing around not building high oil pressure at operating temperatures.
@butlerataustindotrr5 жыл бұрын
@8:20 you advise to lube the end of the damper. This seal is made of Teflon. Teflon seals need to be installed dry or the lubricant will burn them up. This is according to Chrysler. The same goes for the rear main seal on this motor, it is Teflon.
@ryanericw5 жыл бұрын
That seal sees regular contact with oil.
@butlerataustindotrr5 жыл бұрын
@@ryanericw I hear what you're saying, common sense would tell you to lubricate. Talk to Chrysler. Their OEM seals are Teflon.
@ryanericw4 жыл бұрын
@@butlerataustindotrr I get it, but that doesn't make sense because as soon as you hard stop the truck, oil sloshes up and gets all over the front cover (back of the seal) so it really doesn't matter
@Jandjspeedshop4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanericw Butler is correct among all the OEM manufactures you DO NOT lubricate teflon/PTFE lipped seals. They are to be installed DRY because PTFE is self lubricating and oil/silicone/grease can damage the seal surface
@loricunningham83572 жыл бұрын
You installed the front seal the wrong way I did the same way and had a major oil leak
@Team_MFH4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. I needed a visual for the install.
@shark700070006 жыл бұрын
So, since there is no key on there like most other engines I have ever worked on, it doesn't matter what angle or anything like that? Just put it on? My 5.7 is on a 2011 Charger RT. It has three threaded holes so I used a stand old fashioned puller. This special tool makes no sense to me. I would think just impacting it on would do the job? So how does it balance it when there is no key to make sure it is lined up properly to be harmonically balanced? I just did the lifters and cam change. So my radiator is hanging down with one side touching the driveway. So there is room for the impact. Barely. I noticed video 2, but you still didn't answer my question about lining it up. So I will leave it here for you to read my question. Am I going to need to pull that seal back out and put RTV in there, as mentioned on video 2?
@lubacotemobileАй бұрын
Having issues trying to figure out which side of the seal goes towards the motor...😅
@Chriselectricfingers Жыл бұрын
Did ur seal had a metal side to it ? Nd if it did is that side facing theoutside of the crank after install!! Bc i have a mahley seal is bout just under 3" bore but it has a metal ring in it nd on the other side is has that rubber lip! Not sure which side shoukd face me after i install on crank looking on the crank i think i should see the metal ring on the outside ! Let me knw what u think great vid btw 👍🏼😊
@timwiltse3653 жыл бұрын
Not a bad video. The seal is installed backwards though!
@Zach-k2p10 ай бұрын
I know this is 5 years old but would the seal be the same size on a 2010 hemi? In regrades to needing a 1 7/8 socket
@claymoreroomba Жыл бұрын
So wait how do you pull the crank seal out? Do I need to drain the oil first or is it negligible to do so
@TopRankSeoSanAntonio2102 жыл бұрын
Just pulled the seal out a 04 Ram HEMI 5.7l it was installed the same way as this video but I think it should go in with lip facing inward. Does anyone have a definite answer here? The direction of the seal installation isn’t specified in AllData neither.
@rafaelfuentes75723 жыл бұрын
Nice video does I have a 07 charger 5.7 and I’m have trouble installing the new harmonic balancer on the crankshaft. That special tool you have is that good for my vehicle or is it only for trucks.
@procharged6.1224 жыл бұрын
Sorry to say, the seal is definitely backwards. I just did my hemi seal today. It was stock from factory and the opposite side was facing out from factory. Though, maybe it works just the same.. 🤷♂️
@ryanericw5 жыл бұрын
Guys, look I know this isn't the best video in the world, it's just a guide to try and help you all out do the same job. In regards to the seal, it's definitely not backwards. I know, I know seals usually have the lips going outwards, I've replaced tons of seals in my life and I know exactly what you're thinking. This is the first I came across that had a protrusion coming outwards on both sides. The fact is you want the side with the spring to be facing inwards to be protected from the elements. That's exactly how it's installed in the video Check out the pictures here for reference: www.walmart.com/ip/Genuine-OE-Mopar-Front-Crank-Seal-53021585AD/280846373?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=100001408&adid=22222222227286025645&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=344660656041&wl4=pla-704045576345&wl5=1016783&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=129377702&wl11=online&wl12=280846373&veh=sem&gclid=Cj0KCQjwyLDpBRCxARIsAEENsrLc39ccEbpoJemPIFrPh4sBT6kB5iEi4QbVadMke3bktEzjRx6D5NEaAvt2EALw_wcB
@dred5375 Жыл бұрын
The seal is backwards in the video. I just pulled a motor that was factory sealed and the lip seal is on the outside
@ryanericw5 ай бұрын
@@dred5375 which side was the spring facing?
@dred53755 ай бұрын
@@ryanericw spring goes inside cover
@ryanericw5 ай бұрын
@@dred5375 do you see a spring on my seal?
@boardstretcher65265 ай бұрын
I think you put the seal in backwards inside out
@ryanericw5 ай бұрын
truck has had this seal installed this way since the video came out, it's been 6 years now? no oil leaks. The spring side always goes towards the crankcase.
@roadrash83342 жыл бұрын
look at all that gasket maker tho hahah my gosh buddy, worried bout it leaking are ya
@Chriselectricfingers Жыл бұрын
Ok but which way do the seel go on to the crank ? Which way should the seel face when i look at it installing it on to crank? Ty
@mr2law2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing . It looks like the seal was installed backwards? At least the oem seal I pulled out was installed the other side facing the engine
@wdtony5 ай бұрын
Same here. Took out original factory seal and it is opposite of what’s shown in this video.
@loricunningham83572 жыл бұрын
And I went to the Dodge dealer and got the front seal and I told him which way I installed and then they said it was the wrong way
@kingjon71244 жыл бұрын
Did your hemi have a woodruff key or keyway slot on crank or pully?
@loricunningham83572 жыл бұрын
In the other way is it right or wrong should I change it
@lubacotemobile4 ай бұрын
Omg. Too many tools that I don't have.
@carlosmay29514 жыл бұрын
hey harmonic balancer can cause vibration
@Tucson202 жыл бұрын
Seal is in backwards
@scottfulk71044 жыл бұрын
How do you get the old seal out?
@evanranshaw46596 ай бұрын
I use an admittedly somewhat questionable method, but it has worked for me every time. You just need to be careful: Get a short wood screw (maybe 1 inch), and drive it through the seal right near the edge, then use a claw hammer (or other suitable carpentry tool) to pull on the head of the screw and the seal should pop out with it. There are certainly plenty of opportunities to do damage with this method: Don't run the screw in far enough to contact anything behind the seal, you only need one thread of engagement. Don't run the screw in between the seal and the bore that the seal is pressed into, else you'll damage the bore and cause problems with oil leaking around the outside of the seal. You can drill a tiny pilot hole in the seal near the edge to give the screw some place to start. This will make putting the screw in less precarious, but the first two warnings above apply even more strongly when drilling that pilot hole.
@tt-rs14574 жыл бұрын
Mornin Ryan, how did you torque the centersrew, it gets 180NM ( 133 inchlibs). So, how did you counterhold the crank ? V/R Andreas
@ryanericw4 жыл бұрын
You can stick a short prybar through the crank pulley to hold it Another way is to get a serpentine belt holding tool that wraps around the pulley. They sell themnat harborfreight
@tt-rs14574 жыл бұрын
@@ryanericw Thanks Ryan, unfortunally we don't have Harborfreight in germany. But I know them, from my last time in China-Lake. V/R, Andreas
@tt-rs14574 жыл бұрын
Another question: Do I need the long Installer Kit ? Or is it possible to install the Balancer with the srew, that will hold the Pully in place ?
@asafavraham20404 жыл бұрын
by any chance, is there a video of you removing the seal?..
@ryanericw4 жыл бұрын
No, just grab a seal puller and yank it out, super easy
@asafavraham20404 жыл бұрын
@@ryanericw will would be oil spilling out once pulling the seal?
@asafavraham20404 жыл бұрын
and i know yours is 04', is it the same for that engine on other years like 2008?
@ryanericw4 жыл бұрын
@@asafavraham2040 nah, no oil will come out it should be similar, can't say if it will be the same exactly
@evanpetersen40165 жыл бұрын
Hey Ryan, could you give me a rough estimate of what this would cost taking it to a mechanic?
@evanpetersen40165 жыл бұрын
It's an 05 durango. Crank seal is leaking pretty heavily suddenly
@ryanericw5 жыл бұрын
1-2hrs of labor @ 100/hr plus $30 at most in parts
@lillost22953 жыл бұрын
On a 04 Durango with the 5.7 do you have to take the oil pump off to replace the timing chain tensioner?
@BWADaniel2 жыл бұрын
Yes. It’s very very simple though.
@loricunningham83572 жыл бұрын
Should I redo it any advice
@loricunningham78312 жыл бұрын
i installed other way noleaks
@HannsGruber4 жыл бұрын
Part # for the seal?
@LS-Noe12002 жыл бұрын
Is it the same for a 6.1 hemi??
@loricunningham83572 жыл бұрын
It's not leaking
@that_guy89x896 жыл бұрын
Update plz!! Was it holding and not leaking!
@ryanericw6 жыл бұрын
it's fine
@that_guy89x896 жыл бұрын
Cool!! How do you know how far to insert the seal and harmonic balancer? Will it stop once it's inserted all the way in!! Took my truck to a mechanic looked fine then started leaking so tempted just to do it MYSELF!!😕
@ryanericw5 жыл бұрын
Insert it until you feel resistance from it bottoming out
@seanshipley44245 жыл бұрын
You put the seal in backwards homie..
@ryanericw5 жыл бұрын
The seal is installed correctly in this video, the dealer even specified this is correct after I had an issue the first time. The first time I had an issue because the crank snout had buildup
@ronniestine5 жыл бұрын
@@ryanericw yeah thats backwards
@ryanericw5 жыл бұрын
Well if it is, its working with no leaks so lol....I asked the dealer which way it installs thats what they told me :ohwell:
@jaybee58325 жыл бұрын
@@ryanericw 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@garyloring88253 жыл бұрын
@@ryanericw the dealer was FUCKING with you LOL
@joshschacher5739 Жыл бұрын
You got to be kidding me. I just watched this video to see if I put the see in the right way and realized I put it in wrong that's why it was leaking. So I installed it like this video shows and now it is just puking oil. If you could edit the video that would be much appreciated 👌
@ryanericw Жыл бұрын
Then you fucked something up. I still drive my truck with the same seal and it doesnt leak.
@JimmyLoose Жыл бұрын
You put the seal in backwards. I just did this job. I don't know why you won't just admit you f*#^ed up.