💥5.7x28 vs .22 Magnum AMMO From Rifles!💥

Comparing some 5.7x28 and .22wmr ammo using the FN PS90 and Keltec CMR30. FN 195LF, Federal Speer TNT, and Armscor ammo Which one did the best?
Join this channel to become a member of The Range Gang:
/ @toolsandtargets
I am not promoting, nor do I have any affiliation with, any of the retailers or manufacturers shown in this video unless specifically stated otherwise.
All shooting is performed on a private, closed range on private property under controlled situations. Do not attempt any activities shown in the videos on this channel
No firearms or ammunition are offered for sale in this video or video description. There are no links provided to sites where firearms or ammunition are available for sale.
Amazon Affiliate Storefront: www.amazon.com...
* 35- 50% OFF Axil Affiliate Links!*
GS Extreme Earbuds bit.ly/36HwcEt
Trackr Blu Ear Muffs bit.ly/3HpsR9x
Trackr Electronic Ear Muffs (Non Bluetooth) bit.ly/3M72Lff
15% Off Code For Everything Else On Their Site: TOOLSTARGETS

[@jeloughman427]

The 30 grain Federal Speer TNT is a varmint round. It did exactly what it's supposed to do.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Good to know.😎👍

[@jeloughman427]

@@ToolsandTargets 22 mag is my favorite caliber and that Speer TNT is my favorite round. The fireball out of my PMR-30 and Walther WMP shooting them is a whole lot of fun 😁

[@ToolsandTargets]

@@jeloughman427 They went off like a grenade from this CMR!

[@khaliljefferson9191]

Tnt went inuyasia... ..

[@sheltonnielsen7277]

​@jeloughman427 how does your parents 30 do loading these?

[@truthhurts7836]

I know now that I don't want a 5.7 for the price of the guns and the ammo. I'll stick with my 22 magnums as well. Great video as usual, keep them coming 👍.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@salextodd2]

I agree with the sentiment that “… I don’t want a 5.7 for the price…” Unfortunately, my revelation has been delivered after acquiring two of them. That being said: Tools, do you foresee a difference in results if the ‘Tool of choice’ was a CMMG Banshee chambered in such a caliber - or just more of the same for more money???

[@ToolsandTargets]

@@salextodd2 I imagine you're lookin at the same results.

[@summers9911]

I have the ruger 57,ruger lc,keltec p50,psa rock57x2(optics & non optics). Cmmg 300mk 57 upper. Something about that 5.7x28 round,been in love with it since i discovered it a few years back. I know that ammo is pricey atm but the more manufacturers that make more firearms that use this round,the more the price should drop. I think this round is a good home defense round due to the penetration not being so deep & the speed of it is more than enough to do the damage needed to stop an intruder or small game. I like the 22 magnum as well & own a few firearms that use em,but what i like about the 5.7 round is the ability to carry a massive ammount vs 9mm or 556/223. As with any ammo,all can get the job done if the placement is right. I will be taking all my 5.7,s to the range here soon to sight them in(after i green dot bore sight em) then i will be doing some small game hunting with my ruger precision 22mag this year. But my 5.7's rock 57 has become my EDC. This pistol is just B.A. & the low recoil def helped my accuracy a lot. Stay safe,great video & yall be safe out there.

[@hoosierplowboy5299]

Good comparison, Tools. Have had a soft spot in my heart for the .22 Magnum ever since I rolled a running groundhog at 60 yards some 50 years ago... great little round...

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@disgustedvet9528]

i'm sticking with my 22 mag .

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@zanegardner6488]

Why?

[@disgustedvet9528]

@@zanegardner6488 Because i already own a rifle ( old Marlin ) and a new 8 shot Taurus revolver in 22 mag. See no reason to throw money at new toys just for kicks.

[@zanegardner6488]

@@disgustedvet9528 id rather have a 5.7 over a 22 mag if i can pick my caliber

[@sizedjoker2353]

Same here it's cheaper 5.7 is just to expensive for me to care about getting it or a firearm chambered in it

[@randalbigirvirvin1153]

That was a really cool comparison. The TNT definitely lived up to it's name. That was explosive for sure.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yes it was.💥😎💥

[@michaell397]

@@ToolsandTargets Now you know just why it is called TNT! It is a fantastic varmint round and within reaonable ranges, glances and damage to property on the farm is very unlikely as they come apart on impact.

[@Donald_R_DeCicco]

That is wild. I definitely did not expect the Armscor to do so well up against the 5.7 in penetration. The 5.7 is a beast but i gotta give it up to the ole 22wmr. Great test sir

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely. Appreciate ya!

[@kevinchavey8289]

Very interesting vid! I love and own both calibers, but the .22 WMR is my personal favorite. You work hard for this channel and its appreciated. Keep em goin.....

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@Papaw58]

The Speer TNT is designed to " Explode " on Impact, so it performed as it's supposed to. Great Video

[@ToolsandTargets]

Good to know. Thank you sir.😎👍

[@Papaw58]

@@ToolsandTargets Love your Channel and all the Great Videos you put out. I know there's lots of work that goes into it, and We appreciate it. Thanks Tools!!!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

@@Papaw58 Appreciate that!

[@bobg.8954]

Brother, you do for sure go way above and beyond for your viewers, great job and really good video! Thanks T

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate the support, my friend!

[@poisonPpaully]

Those Speer are custom made for pistols as self defense rounds if I remember correctly designed to open up at slower velocity I think the extra speed through the carbine just tore it apart

[@AK-ky3ou]

No they’re not. Not the tnt bullet

[@ToolsandTargets]

These are different from the Gold Dots. I noticed later that there was a squirrel on the box, so maybe they're varmint rounds meant to fragment like this.🤷‍♂️

[@haagy13]

The TNT bullet is a varmint bullet with very thin jacket designed to come apart on impact. The bullet performed exactly as designed.

[@poisonPpaully]

@@ToolsandTargets your right I saw Speer and my brain went straight to the gold dot I stand corrected

[@Bob-lq9ys]

Armscore for the win , as the old saying goes > the proof is in the pudding

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍 Thank you sir.

[@Kaelland]

From Federal's website for the Speer TNT ammo: "When you rely on rimfire for putting down distant varmints, reach for Federal Premium Speer® TNT®. The bullet's thin jacket results in explosive performance on impact, and its reliable priming and propellant provide extremely consistent ballistics. Extreme accuracy Explosive expansion on impact Speer TNT bullet design Reliable priming and propellant" Seems to me like the idea is for it to expand reliably at longer ranges. If you're up for it, maybe try the TNT in gel at 100+ yards and see if it expands instead of fragmenting once it gets downrange a ways. That said, if it will fragment reliably at shorter ranges, it may be a good choice for short range pest control where overpenetration may be a concern.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Sounds about right.😎👍

[@keithtate1241]

I like the performance of Armscor ammo. Thanks for the Jelly test and have a great weekend.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed. thank you sir.😎👍

[@terrell48]

I’m afraid my choice would be the 22 mag and an alternative is a 22 Hornet, never had any desire for a 5.7x28, a good comparison might be the 22 tcm, I believe Rock Island makes a carbine in that caliber

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed.😎👍

[@electrochubb]

The Armscor mags are great performers. Thanks for your detailed test sir.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Absolutely.

[@yuvgotubekidding]

Penny for penny the .22 wmr is smarter. I guess the 5.7 is kind of a designer caliber. As always good test. 👍👊🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Have to agree.😎👍

[@marcocastillo368]

Im inclined to agree especially when the new Extreme Long Range ELR ammo is available here in the US.

[@TexasRoadWarrior]

Thanks for this test! I was thinking about the new LC carbine in 5.7. Now I am leaning toward the Keltec CMR 30. !

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@jeffray6197]

Great test video, as always! Looks like beautiful weather to be out at the range!! Stay safe brother!!🇺🇸👍🏻

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@briarsandbantams]

.22 WMR remains a fine choice for general mucking around the family property and woods scrounging. Varminting with lighter projectiles or small game hunting with less explosive rounds. I keep hoping 5.7 will turn into a modern replacement for .22 Hornet, but its just not seeming all that versatile with the ammo available.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, they're too busy cashing in on mediocre ammo for it.

[@LuckyDog350X]

I was not very impressed with any of them to be honest, especially the 5.7 don't get me wrong that PS90 is a very cool tool I just can't bring myself to get one considering the price of the tool and ammo. I don't really see it as practical for anything other than range fun. Have a good one brother see you on the next one.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed. I just had to have it.😆😆😆

[@chazzy1237]

Love the 57 ammo! I have the Ruger 57 and it shoots really nice! Just expensive to shoot

[@ToolsandTargets]

That's for sure!

[@chretired]

Now that was a really interesting test Tools. I sure didn't expect those results. From all the hype about the 5.7 I sure expected much better results from that round. I will say most of the test I've seen of the 5.7 have all been shorter barreled handguns. The TNT sure did "explode" on impact. Would be interesting to see if it's any good against a real life target, most likely only for some small game. I wonder what it would have done vs. some kind of barrier, be it clothing or otherwise. Now the other 22 mag seems to have performed very good. With cost of both equipment and ammo the 22 mag is my choice over that 5.7. Be safe and ever vigilant.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate ya, brother!😎👊

[@a1racer441]

The 5.7 has like 3 times the impact power of the 22mag plus you will get longer distances with greater power then the 22. Just be ready to pay for the 5.7 premium.

[@donrichter3523]

Well, no, it doesn’t. Tools calculated the energy. On top of that, the bullet action was pathetic. If it can’t penetrate 12 inches of clear gel, it sure as hell won’t in 10% or in actual bodies. The round is pure hype. Even 198LF will only penetrate a few inches in gel after going thru a lvl2 panel. Sure it penetrates, but does little after doing so.

[@snowballsvlogs621]

Don’t forget the round is designed to tumble as well, not designed just for penetration. The wound tract of the 5.7 is devastating and is designed as a military round.

[@KCTPgaming]

@@a1racer441you do know they are like super identical ballistically right? Speed , weight , size.. 5.7 is just center fire, and has better ballistic coefficients. 22 mag is 2200fps with a 30 grain bullet, the 5.7 he was using clocked around 2300 with a 27 grain bullet… lol where do you get 3 times the power? They are given out the about the same energy with these velocities lol. I swear people think 5.7 is a fucking 5.56 lol

[@ronaldbarnes8302]

The only advantage the 5.7 has is being a center fire. The 22WMR TNT would be an awesome groundhog round. The 40 grainer definitely impressed. Thanks for sharing Tools!

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@AK-ky3ou]

The tnt will expand from a naa mini mag through heavy clothing. Won’t penetrate very far through anything.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Interesting

[@YellowHammer26]

I believe the Speer round is a small game load and honestly I don’t know anything about the 5.7 round except if it’s supposed to expand and didn’t with that velocity then I don’t think it will ever expand. The armscor round performed really well with good expansion and penetration plus it was a good bit heavier. Thanks Tools 👍👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@Logan-py8we]

the federal TNT isnt a small game round its a "varmint" round. the expansion on the armscor was pathetic given the distance the test was done at. that thing should have had much greater expansion than that.

[@ronaldperkins4222]

I've loaded lots of Speer TNT in .222, .223, .22-250, & 6mm Rem & can verify they explode. Devastating on groundhogs & coyotes. Very interesting test.

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥🐹💥

[@theturkeysopinion]

Fantastic test! I just did a video on this round and this is the exact test I wanted to see. Great job.🦃👊👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. It's an interesting round.

[@Toxie2725]

5.7 had adequate penetration for is use and a better wound cavity, but for more money. I've got both...so I'll keep using both!

[@texastomsshavingtips6359]

The TNT(™) bullets works like the VARMINT GRENADE(™) bullets, they are pelt saving varmint bullets!! I would use that Armscor ammo for small game hunting!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Makes sense.😎👍

[@scarifrougeone7225]

Yo Tools great test and commentary bud. Thanks for adding the Armscore in that was great. I was wondering about those 5.7X28mm and now I know. The Speer is it’s name 💥TNT💥explode on impact pretty much thanks for that test. Overall the .22WMR all day long cost and variety of ammo is huge, plus the penetration and expansion. Really enjoyed this one bro! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️5 Star! Stay well, be safe.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@jamesmarkov9570]

I agree. The wildcard round (Armscor) was a great idea

[@billdye3530]

I'm picking a 380 with Ranger T ammo. 😆 TNT is designed to blow up quick that's why hunters use it on fur bearing animals. It doesn't blow a hole thru both sides of a hide. Armscor did pretty good. Very good comparison. Thanks. 👍 👍 🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

😂😂😂

[@TheHillbilly1979]

Really enjoyed this video, I’m glad you threw in the Armscor ammo because that TNT was pretty disappointing lol… I’ve always been fascinated with 22mag from rifle or handgun , thank you for another great video I always enjoy your content.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Appreciate that!

[@noahmercy-mann4323]

The 22WMR TNTs are great on prairie poodles and European starlings. Very low chance of ricochets or pass-throughs, and they drop the vermin decisively. Not great on critters much larger than jackrabbits, though. I like the fact that the 5.7 is more reliable than the rimfire and can be reloaded, but not enough to get one, at least not in a carbine/rifle.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, I only got it because I wanted the PS90 specifically.

[@chrisgabbert658]

👍😊🎯 the tnt acted like a 17 hmr . 💥

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥💥💥

[@johnnyv.223]

SUPER comparison, Tools. The Armscore looks to be the most effective of the three rounds you tested today. I'm wondering if the TNT might do better than in the carbine in the shorter bbl pistol that Keltec makes. Thank you for a real good one today!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that!😎👊

[@buzsalmon]

Good one Tools! All tricky for me!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir!

[@jeffreyrobertson7652]

Another good test video Tools enjoy watching them Stay Safe Stay 2A Strong 🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you, brother!

[@sakfpv8444]

Im sticking with good old 9mm. Cheaper, its been perfecred for a century, and the tool selection is amazing. 22 mag was going to be my first pistol a couple years ago, but...rimfire is just (by design) less reliable. It could be 1 out of 200 rounds, but ive got 4000 through my canik and not a single issue. I like them odds.

[@randyweber2275]

I knew those 5.7 sleek looking bullets were a gimmick....love the 22 mag, always have....a rough rider is a great plinking revolver, and with the 22 mag cylinder gives the thump a raccoon/opposum he needs sometimes.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Love running mags through my Rough Riders.

[@tamadrummer001]

Well damn I wish I watched this 1 week earlier than I am. I found some Speer tnt 22 mag at a decent price from buds gun shop and got 6 boxes of it. Oh well, if you put enough of them into the bipedal threat coming at you, it will likely stop regardless of fragmenting. Thanks for the work tools

[@trustnot9]

GREAT TEST, AWESOME TO WATCH.....

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that, my friend!😎👊

[@Mr_New_Vegas_685]

The only reason I have 5.7x28 is because I love my ps90 sbr. It’s a very niche caliber. Shooting it is always fun so that’s the main reason for mine.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Same for me 100%.😎👍

[@robertseafield5810]

Great video! Glad you are trying the carbines. Please do some more in pistol calibers. The Speer TNT bullets are for rapid expansion in varmints.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@nigeltheoutlaw]

Some of the videos I've seen shows them do fairly well out of handguns.

[@gort4016]

I would love to see how the FN 5.7 X 28 40-GRAIN V-MAX (SS107) would do in this test vs. CCI Maxi-Mag 40 gr HP. I don't care much for the featherweight (27 or 30 grain) rounds in either 5.7x28 or the .22WMR.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I almost used the VMax 5.7 against a VMax .22 Mag, but I figured they would both just fragment to pieces.

[@pistolgrip44mag]

Heck Yeah. 💥

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@artkoinis607]

5.7×28 does it perform against body armor the same way as people say? Like the demo 😎

[@ToolsandTargets]

I haven't personally tested it. All I have is hard armor.

[@joemorganeatmyshortschannel]

I think the 5.7 we get isn't quite as cool as the red box that's ss109 but 22 mag you can afford

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@jmichaelcarbonniere9549]

Good test, Tools! The TNT is a varmint round so perhaps not the best comparison? I've never been a big fan of the 5.7 x 28 while I'm a huge fan of the .22 Mag! I think that with the proper ammo the Mag will more or less hang in there with the 5.7. The 5.7 has pretty much priced itself out my range while the .22 mag hasn't gone up quite as much as most other rounds. I'll just stick with the 22 mag until I suddenly get rich or a 5.7 falls out the sky and lands in my lap! Cheers, crkckr

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. The big squirrel on the box should have clued me in.😂😂😂

[@garygates5679]

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR A GREAT VIDEO ...!!!!!! FOR MY SELF ...!!!! NO 5.7 ..... !!!!!!!!! AWESOME REVIEW ...!!!!!!!! DOUBLE G. HERE ...!!!!!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you, sir!😎👊

[@RL-RL]

That was a great idea adding the Armscor, or this test would be a bust. Also, I know a way to save you some money on that 5.7 ammo and that tool...

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. 😆😆😆

[@MidwesternOutdoors01]

I like how you added the energy #’s 👌🏻🔥

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@peterscott225]

I'm impressed with the budget priced armscor.

[@timriley2503]

I like the TNT. Great energy dump.

[@jaxturner7288]

Looks beautiful out there right now. Not long till my favorite hat will be back on your head again though. 👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥😎💥

[@thereindeertherabbitthebat592]

That was a really cool video, thanks a bunch for doing this one 👍 Really appreciate it.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@earlmorrison8163]

Space gun day !! LOL !! Thanks for the video

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥👽💥

[@rex116]

Awesome video like always thank you very much I have a Winchester 9422M in .22Mag and I like it .

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Nice.😎👍

[@jamespahlsson8133]

Love that 5.7x28, thank you for doing this video. You are the best. Jim

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate you!

[@KD-lb9bg]

The 22 Magnum White box equivalent for the win 🏆, Lol. Thanks for another fine Jelly Time test.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@BulletsB4Guns_2A]

Good video Tools. Thanks for all you do brother..

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@Nutty.357]

The Armscor looks pretty good to me! Maintained its weight, good expansion, ample speed even though slowest, good penetration, cheap(er)! lol! Did good! Have a good one!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed.

[@rontate7719]

Definitive,and decisive, A great deal of info . And I am of the 5seven Persuasion... Thanks 9.24.2022

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@thealarmclock9307]

I died when you said aight y'all, it's " bUt tHaT aInT tHe rIgHt aMmO jelly time

[@ToolsandTargets]

😂😂😂

[@valkyriect3919]

Interesting test Tools. I’m still disappointed with the 5.7 I have loved the looks of that carbine, but not liking how it performs. 🔫💨🍮👑🛠

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, it's definitely just a collectors piece for me.

[@hoosierplowboy5299]

You and me, both. .22 mag is as good/better, IMHO...

[@tonkatank045]

its crazy how small that 5.7 bullpup is! thing looks like a childs first rifle in your hands lol

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, it would really look like a toy with me holding it if it was the SMG version.😆

[@bigtrev761]

🇦🇺😎👍Spoke too soon ! “The science is never settled”……2400ish f/s wow…. Lol I’ve got the Armscor for my Smith & Wesson model 48…… yep I’m still an Armscor type of guy 🇦🇺🏁🇺🇸……5.7x28s for target shoootn only🤣, junk !….. lol , might be able to reuse the 5.7 projectile in a reload😂……brother I’ve kicked another goal , agen 😎👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. The Armscor really surprised me.

[@seanomeirs8362]

Good video. I'm still trying to think of the niche that the 5.7 fills for me. Value? Performance? Even if it were cheaper than 5.56, I still can't think of a benefit, beyond being lighter, and more rounds in the gun. I don't really use my .22 magnum for anything either, but my sons father in law shoots coyotes with his rifle.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agree on the 5.7. I only have it because I wanted the PS90 itself.

[@seanomeirs8362]

@@ToolsandTargets Yeah. And I'm not putting it down, at all. Any innovation is interesting to me, and the new platforms are exciting to see, as they come out. Trust me. If I can give myself a good reason, and permission to get one, I will. Thanks again. I'm hoping someone will talk me into it.

[@seanomeirs8362]

@@___meph___4547Thanks for the feedback. I am looking for a reason to get something in 5.7, but I already have so many mouths to feed, I need a good reason. Also, there are other calibers and platforms that I am interested in. 6.5 Grendel, 458 SOCOM, Lever actions, etc. Life was easier when I had less choices.

[@salextodd2]

The 5.7 is (in my humble opinion) a round that is only useful for target/plinking shooting. It is only for “the fun and exhilaration” of shooting it. The experience is (although quite expensive) quite a bit of fun. Problem there is: often times, you will forget how much you paid for the ammo because of the exhilaration of shooting it.

[@salextodd2]

@@ToolsandTargets Ditto!! And, friends have told me, the P-90 (full auto) is even more exhilarating!! I hope they don’t end up in the ranks of the homeless because of that expensive bliss!!

[@just_hobbies]

Excellent video. Very precise.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👍

[@wesleyhobbs9]

5.7 without a doubt! No match

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@timrobinson6573]

The Armscor looked good

[@ToolsandTargets]

Mhmm

[@steveshannon6497]

There supposed to fragment. I’m pretty sure the tnt is billed as a varmint round. Another great video!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍 Thank you sir.

[@keithrichardson4333]

Would be cool to see the american eagle fmjs or FN 198s tested next to these. Maybe the gold dots if they can be found and the price isn't obnoxious. I did expect a little more from the 5.7, but really fast lightweight rounds do tend to decelerate faster than heavier rounds so I really shouldn't be surprised. Excellent test.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. I almost used the American Eagle instead of the 195LF's. I tested the 198 against the 195 here 😎👍 kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipO2nJqXnb94hbM

[@keithrichardson4333]

@@ToolsandTargets thanks for the link. I didnt know you already tested these

[@Dwayne7834]

Good gel test. The tnt did good for shooting squirrels or rabbits. The others had good penetration for sure. Thanks for the video.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir!😎👊

[@ironmikehallowween]

I love 22 magnums. I use it quite a bit. I am interested in those 5.7s though and hope they start making them in pocket pistols. To me it’s kinda like a 22 magnum center fire. I love my 22 Hornet more than the 5.7, but There doesn’t seem to be much interest in making small handguns utilizing that superior cartridge.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, maybe too much pressure to make it small enough and cost effective.

[@bryantbutlermf]

The hornet is what I’m looking for I have the mag now I’m in love with the thing

[@charlesmorgan1879]

Baby bean gelly time ! If I were to get one of those would be 22wmr , armscor did well. Thanks Gellmiester T&T

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate ya, sir!

[@billdye3530]

A lot of the tipped 22wmr ammo will blow up quickly like that also. Great for hunters but not self defense.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Squirrel soup!

[@billdye3530]

@@ToolsandTargets Pre-shredded for tacos. Ignore the copper & lead fragments if you use hot sauce on Squirrel 🌮.

[@ogbobbye]

I have the Ruger 57 bought it just for fun but with the 5.7 x 28 ammo prices I don't get to have much fun. I am thinking about selling the 57 and picking up one of the Rock Island Armory M1911 A1 XT 22 magnums. after seeing the Armscor performance I may do more than just think about selling my 57. at the very least I will be able to afford to shoot the XT 22 magnum more.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, prices are ridiculous for the ammo.

[@matterickson5993]

This is a great comparison video - The 5.7 doesn't make sense to me out of a rifle, I think it is a really cool round from a pistol but for rifles there are much better choices (.223 or 22 Mag). Both 223 and 22 mag have way more ammo choices and they are less expensive plus they perform better than 5.7 however, from a pistol the 5.7 is really fun and doesn't have anything that compares too closely besides maybe 22 mag but centerfire is always way more reliable than rimfire especially from a pistol. The TNT rounds are meant to do exactly what they did in the gel - explode like TNT.

[@jarrettmoore6237]

All the "TNT" labeled rimfire rounds I've shot in 17hmr and 22mag has done exactly what you experienced.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, apparently I didn't realize they're varmint rounds. The squirrel on the package should have been a clue.😆😆😆

[@bruceallen6016]

I think the Armscor is the clear winner. Not bad for being the under dog.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed

[@wasntmeXYZ]

Those Speer TNTs might work better out of a pistol and a tad lower velocity. You should try those in the PMR30. The 5.7 did exactly what it was designed to do. Tumble and yaw while dumping the energy into the target creating a very nasty wound but I’d like to see a bit more penetration out of those. A very good video comparison and proof that the 22 mag isn’t such a bad choice for self defense it’s only draw back is the rimfire which isn’t always as reliable as a center fire.

[@jonathanhallenbeck1726]

I really like this comparison. Fantastic job. I have been looking at that new Ruger LC carbine for my wife as she is recoil sensitive and at 4 ft 11 she needs a youth stock or adjustable. Now i believe I'll look for a similar setup in .22 magnum.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@haroldhatcher1239]

I was surprised by all three projectiles. 5.7 didn’t penetrate as much as I thought. The TNT explosion and short penetration was a surprise. It would be a fantastic squirrel exploder. 😂 I didn’t expect that much penetration from the Aquilla. A good varmit round. Thank You for another great video Tools

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. It would turn that squirrel into sausage!💥🐹💥

[@macintyrerose6843]

Great video! Good subject. The olʼ 22 magnum does pretty good in a fight that it didn't even know it was in. It's like the Five-Seven has an inferiority complex so it's always looking for someone to pick on to prove how tough it is. I've seen most of the tests on KZbin. The most embarrassing was The Military Arms Channel who offered a skewed test to cover for the Five-Sevenʼs mediocre performance. So, does the Five-Seven win the 22 caliber cage match against the venerable 22 mag. Of course it does. It's centerfire. It has versions with heavier projectiles. It gets faster velocities from shorter barrels. It works better in semi-automatic weapons. It's better in every way. But, is it better enough? Let's just say it shouldn't look back over its shoulder because the olʼ 22 mag is right there and coming up fast. And it should not start feeling too good about itself because it's nowhere near as good as the 5.56. I'll file it on the shelf next to the 30 super carry.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Well said.😎👍

[@johnbeven9600]

Ever the neutral Swiss candidate......I agree.......... back to my .22 lr . Punches and 9 mm HST/Rangers T.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😆😆😆

[@semichiganandy2127]

The Armscor looked really good. I'll pass on a new gun with new ammo (5.7) and pick up some Armscor.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Smart move.

[@charlesgoode2125]

The tnt is a varmit round. It did exactly what it was designed to do.

[@georgezeigler3858]

Good video I will stick with my 22mag also like the looks of the new r uger 5.7 ammo still expensive

[@ToolsandTargets]

Ammo is definitely too expensive.

[@147CombatMedic]

The chrono is in cahoots with 5.7 ammo manufacturers 😂

[@ToolsandTargets]

🤣🤣🤣

[@rogerray2545]

Brother not quite ready to give up on my 5-7 just yet but it ain't looking good maybe put it up against 17 HMR and another thing been bothering me how in the world you don't have a half a million subscribers is beyond me

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. I appreciate that.😎👊

[@calangel]

Yes, the Speer TNT is designed to do that. It is a bonded bullet, made exactly like a gold dot, but the jacket is much thinner. With your demonstration, it's obvious that factory 5.7x28mm doesn't really make sense vs factory 22WMR, just about regardless of the barrel length. My PMR 30 never has issues anymore. As reliable as a center fire.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Very true.

[@frank6029]

22 mag hands down Stay Safe and God Bless enjoy your weekend 🙏🙏

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you, brother!

[@irafowlerjr.7492]

Helpful info, thanks

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@VT2k6]

It would be interesting if you really ran the test with R&R Weapon System 5.7x28 rounds, which are actual defense rounds and are getting closer to 525 foot pounds of energy out of PS90 barrel. The FN cilivan offerings of the 5.7 are really neutered down in performance in comparison to what FN offers police and the military, the R&R 5.7 ammo is a lot closer to Law enforcement and military capabilities. I also believe that Vanguard Outfitters offers a similar round called the Black Dragon Fang...again although the FN ammo is way easier to find its far from the best in what is out for 5.7 defense ammo.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Pretty sure I basically explained this exact point in the video. What you see here is what the majority of people who buy these guns can expect.

[@Cr0wmagnum]

I'm not sure what would be "even" between them both. Perhaps 40gr Federal ball in 5.7x28 from a Ruger57 vs. Win 45gr fmj from a 16-22 inch bbl? Love both rounds just in different platforms. Never had a use for .22mag in a handgun. Great vid none the less.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@robertkubrick3738]

Pretty sure the TNT is a varmint round and did what it's supposed to do. That Armscor looked like it would be good for larger small game, like the dog size deer we had where I used to live. I don't see a use case for me with the 5.7. I don't have the room to buy one of everything.

[@DisgustedGenXr]

Cleeter sprint boat killer!! My chrono was giving me issues whenever a cloud would come by. I turned on the LED bars and it was fine. Might be the shadow that is giving you the errors

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥🚤💥

[@jeffreybean5363]

That was a very unique test Tools..loved it..👍🇺🇸👍🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@jeffreybean5363]

And by the way I'd pick the 22mag vs 5.7

[@TommyboyGTP]

Speer's TNT line is a varmint/predator rapid expanding round so it did exactly as it was designed.

[@ToolsandTargets]

You would think the squirrel on the box would have clued me in.😂😂😂

[@richarddixon7276]

Its a shame You didn't have any Federal Punch .22 Mags to compare , that would be interesting . Thanks for the video , Shoot Straight Stay Safe & Stay Well .

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, I could have used those I suppose.

[@richarddixon7276]

@@ToolsandTargets Not a problem really , I did watch Your Rough Rider .22 Federal Punch Magnum test again to check the results against those on this video . Maybe it's an idea for another video , maybe with a 16" barrel . Thanks again keep up the good work .