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@jerryconrad2737
@jerryconrad2737 3 ай бұрын
Have a 6 ARC 20" gas gun about 3 years now. Favorite gun to shoot. I predicted back then that it would be a top 10 selling rifle cartridge. AR15 gas guns being the number one most popular platform and the 6 ARC being the most efficient best caliber in that platform seems like a no brainer to me. As long as it is supported.
@jacobbaumgardner3406
@jacobbaumgardner3406 2 ай бұрын
Been looking to build one for a while. Considering that the round was only released in 2020, you were a really early adopter, wow.
@Coyotekillaz
@Coyotekillaz Жыл бұрын
Duramag is definitely the way to go. 3 Arcs in my group all run duramag with zero issues ever.
@TheWoodsman1983
@TheWoodsman1983 Жыл бұрын
I've had a 6arc for about a year now and I absolutely love this capable little cartridge I just wish there was a bigger ammo selection of various weights
@stephenbyrne3778
@stephenbyrne3778 Жыл бұрын
I just got a 6arc. Are the 3 different cartridges relatively versatile? If I could purchase a plethora of ammo all at once I would just get a handful of each, but for now I’m gonna have to purchase a little here and a little there so I’m just wondering which cartridge would be the go to
@TheWoodsman1983
@TheWoodsman1983 Жыл бұрын
@@stephenbyrne3778 well that all depends on what you want to do with it. The 103gr ELD-X is for hunting while the other 2 are more for target/long range shooting. I've never used the ELD-X because they can be kind of hard to find, but I imagine it will still reach out pretty well depending on barrel length
@BuckF0eJiden
@BuckF0eJiden Жыл бұрын
If you're willing to invest in a set of reloading equipment, there's a MASSIVE selection of projectile weights available. The 6mm/.243 caliber is pretty ubiquitous. Once I finish my move to Oklahoma and get settled in, I'm planning on turning loose of several of my rifles - including my LR308, and replacing all of them with an 18" 6mm ARC. I've planned on running 75 grain hollow points, and 95 grain ELD-X primarily. Some time down the road, id like to get a lathe and mill my own projectiles. Even in .224. Imagine an 80 grain copper slug in 6mm with a tungsten core penetrator moving at 2800+ fps 😮
@BuckF0eJiden
@BuckF0eJiden Жыл бұрын
For reference, 8208 XBR from IMR in 6mm ARC will move a 70 grain pill at a blistering 3300 fps at max pressure. If you had a custom barrel turned in 26-28" with a rifle +2 gas system, there's no reason you couldn't move the 95 gr ELDs in a 1-7.75 twist at close to or over 3k fps in a gas gun. If it's well put together, it'd make a very easy shooting, precision gas gun. Especially with the free-floating handguard. You'd have little or no issues with muzzle flash at that barrel length, either. So running a brake would actually make sense.
@BuckF0eJiden
@BuckF0eJiden Жыл бұрын
Also, fun fact... the Duramag 7.62x39 30 round mags will feed both 6ARC and 6.5 Grendels reliably.
@snicklefritzd3612
@snicklefritzd3612 2 жыл бұрын
Built a 20 inch Brownells 6 Arc heavy barrel by Faxon and their bolt and carrier group in Aero aluminum. Seekins precision adjustable block. It shoots nice. Very happy
@izaacportilo4010
@izaacportilo4010 Жыл бұрын
Great episode and as always great information. I’ll be picking up a 16” bolt 6 ARC shortly.
@chadillac95
@chadillac95 10 ай бұрын
1:20:23 bolt face diameter is .441 and for semi autos is type 2
@fattigla
@fattigla Жыл бұрын
I had a jp 6.5 grendel barrel that came with a bolt, I don't know what steel it was, but definitely different than a mil spec bolt.
@davidmilisock5200
@davidmilisock5200 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the podcast. I moved to the 6 ARC in an Aero Precision M4E1, (assembled Aero upper) for a general purpose/CQB rifle and I couldn't agree more with your information. I will not be trying to make the cartridge anything it is not. I'm going to use the same powder Hornady uses (for the gas gun) and use the factory ammo as a control. I understand how to avoid bolt thrust issues. I'm getting wonderful groups and making good hits from the muzzle ouy to 600 yards. I plan on a long relationship with this rifle/barrel. I've been shooting and reloading 6MM for 4 decades in the 6MM Remington so I have a hyper velocity 6MM and I don't need to ruin a fine rifle being an idiot.
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thanks for watching.
@rustynut1967
@rustynut1967 2 жыл бұрын
What powder does Hornady use? It's not Lever like a lot of people think. I've taken factory rounds apart, inspected and weighed the powder. Lever does not duplicate the factory powder even though it looks the same.
@davidmilisock5200
@davidmilisock5200 2 жыл бұрын
@@rustynut1967 Does not duplicate the weight? what does it not duplicate? Was the load compressed? Very early on the discussion was that LeverEvolution was used but I bet not now as a recent video by Hornady suggested that it was a tiny bit faster than LeverEvolution. As far as what Hornady has posted LeverEvolution is the clear choice.
@rustynut1967
@rustynut1967 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidmilisock5200 The factory loads are compressed. The powder looks like lever but I don't think it possibly could be. I would have to dig for my notes, it was at least 30gr, but I think even more. I do remember thinking if I loaded as much powder as they did using Lever there would be a good chance it would damage my rifle. I also took the factory powder and loaded a few rounds using the same charge weight when using Lever and the velocity was way below the same charge as Lever. A few people with more experience with reloaded than me think it is a blend of powder not available off the shelf used in the factory ammo. I mostly use Lever (28.7gr) and getting around 2680fps shooting 105's and good brass life in a 22" barrel. Varget is a little more accurate but a tad slower velocity.
@rustynut1967
@rustynut1967 2 жыл бұрын
I just looked at my notes. 108 ELD-M factory ammo was 30.3gr of powder.
@binalith4898
@binalith4898 Жыл бұрын
ruger should do the sfar bolt/receiver geometry in 6 arc
@theproudamerican1967
@theproudamerican1967 Жыл бұрын
Interesting, though moving up to 6GT in that platform would be even better. 200-300fps gains over the 6ARC and 6GT wouldn't beat the SFAR apart like the 308 does
@williamcrawford7663
@williamcrawford7663 2 ай бұрын
Agree. SFAR has much potential but would be a much better gun in 6Arc.
@christophersmith4300
@christophersmith4300 Жыл бұрын
6 arc looks like a great hunting/shooting platform. Lots of good attributes for whacking critters. Thanks for the tech insights.
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 5 ай бұрын
💯
@tompanek7511
@tompanek7511 4 ай бұрын
I agree looks like a great deer getter. Most deer are taken within 300 yards. Carrying a 7 to 8 lb AR vs dads or grandpas 10 to 12 pound rifle is a NO brainer.
@ronnieramesey7019
@ronnieramesey7019 2 жыл бұрын
Just had a 6 arc built, have not got it in my hands yet looking forward to it.. I am so excited.. love to program can’t wait to hear more about your findings.. thank you for the time you spend and the information you do share
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@mckimmym
@mckimmym Жыл бұрын
You can get a 6ppc bolt head to convert a savage 110 from pacific tool and gauge. Pretty quick turn around. Sharp shooter supply also sells them, but I order mine months ago and haven’t heard back from them
@MedicalTape_xX
@MedicalTape_xX Жыл бұрын
I hope 6 arc gets pressure tested in the CMMG PowerBolt/Mk47 platform. I would assume that you could safely get higher pressures, but of course you would need a few expendable rifles to figure that out.
@Tcat88
@Tcat88 Жыл бұрын
Love the pod guys! Wades opening just gigglin kills me. Keep bashing the 308s and boomers.
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 5 ай бұрын
😂
@RamTahoe
@RamTahoe Жыл бұрын
I'm interested in 6arc cuz it seems like a happy medium for high bc AR cartridges. It has less energy, more speed than 6.5 Grendel but less speed, more energy than 224Valkyrie. Planning on getting a 22" bolt action AR upper for distance precision
@LRRPFco52
@LRRPFco52 Жыл бұрын
Same barrel lengths and bullet weights should be the same between 6.5 Grendel and 6mm ARC, both of which have more energy on-target than .224 Valkyrie. 90gr TNT in my 6.5 Grendels 12” 2700fps 17.6” 2900fps 107gr (.461 G1 Litz) 6.5 Grendel 12” 2450fps 17.6” 2625fps 120gr 6.5 Grendel 12” 2400fps 17.6” 2500fps 123gr 6.5 Grendel (.468 - .527 G1 BC) 12” 2350fps 17.6” 2450fps 130gr 6.5 Grendel (.562 - .615 G1 BC) 12” 2300fps 17.6” 2400fps Hornady 105gr (.530 G1 BC)18” data: 2550fps With 6mm, you have a bit flatter trajectory and superior wind drift compared with 123gr 6.5mm, that eventually surpasses it for energy on-target, but the 130gr in 6.5mm will always have more energy and comparable or less wind drift, plus it hits the steel harder. Ammo availability favors Grendel by a factor of 30x, which is huge.
@BlitzenSpeaks
@BlitzenSpeaks Жыл бұрын
I just learned about this cartridge. It's a 6.5 (.264 caliber) Grendel necked down to a 6mm (.243 caliber). It uses the same AR bolt as Grendel and 7.62X39, and magazines as well. Neat!!! But I'm already invested in Grendel, and with it's ballistics sweet spot, I'll stick with it.😁 But if I were just starting, I'd love one! I've always loved the .243 cartridge! I've put a LOT of deer meat in the freezer with my .243!
@MegaAppleshit
@MegaAppleshit 3 ай бұрын
I prefer 6ARC over the Grendal because the ARC can comfortably use any bullet in the 6mm family from 55 grain to 115. From what I have seen, 6.5 Grendal really does well with 125 grain or lighter 6.5 bullets. There are a ton of really good 6.5 bullets, but a lot if the best ones land outside the Grendal's preferred weight range.
@stevenbekkering4323
@stevenbekkering4323 Жыл бұрын
Love the rifle you have on the table. Care to share a parts list? Looks like a Geissele gas block.? BCG? Buffer/spring combo? I really want to build a 14.5 arc. Any advice from someone with real experience would be awesome
@JimYeats
@JimYeats Жыл бұрын
My take on the 6mm ARC (Which I just ordered a 12.5" barrel for) is that it is a do all style cartridge, entirely dependent on your needs. Similar to setting up your AR in 223/5.56. If you want a compact SBR in 6mm ARC, yes, it will lose some velocity, but it's still going to shoot a 100+gr load as fast as any heavy 223 load out of the same barrel length, and it's going to have similar recoil, and much better ballistics. If you want a rifle focused more on the mid to long range, same thing, set it up that way and it will out perform similar setup AR's in 223/556, as well other calibers (particularly at longer range) such as 6.5 Grendel, 6.8 SPC, exc exc.
@randybarajas313
@randybarajas313 Жыл бұрын
Will i be ok if i pick up the 6 arc in a AR platform with a 16” barrel? I am wanting to shoot within 400 yards and in
@JimYeats
@JimYeats Жыл бұрын
@@randybarajas313 for sure.
@trentenanteau2229
@trentenanteau2229 Жыл бұрын
What barrel did you get? I have been looking to build me a 12.5 but faxon the only ones I can find.. any better quality barrels out there
@JimYeats
@JimYeats Жыл бұрын
@@trentenanteau2229 Mos-Tek. Great website and customer service. Custom made. Took about 9 weeks to get.
@BuckF0eJiden
@BuckF0eJiden Жыл бұрын
​@@trentenanteau2229check out X-Caliber. They'll turn you a custom barrel, and they're pretty high quality.
@dependablekit5500
@dependablekit5500 Жыл бұрын
@dandexinventor
@dandexinventor Жыл бұрын
I started to do my homework on 6 ARC in 2020 and didn't purchase anything until 2022...feeling like that paid off on everything but a scope. I was wondering if you giuys had any suggestions for someone like me wanting to shoot out to 1K meters or so, but am planning to hunt with this setup??? I have a 3.5-10X on it now but that seems to be only working out to 500-600 then it's just not cutting it for me beyond. I would rather save up for a while and get good, high-quality glass, but not sure where to start as in which brands are the best bang for the buck. Thanks in advance!
@tphpodcast
@tphpodcast Жыл бұрын
We answer this question in depth on the podcast going up next week, going up August 30th.
@danielclover6992
@danielclover6992 2 жыл бұрын
Just ordered an 18" ballistic advantage upper. I can't wait to get it and start breaking it in.
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Let us know how it goes.
@unclebob540i3
@unclebob540i3 2 жыл бұрын
Those are nice barrels. I run the 20" on mine. I have gotten fantastic results from 87gr V MAX and VihtaVouri N135. Devestating on coyotes and fun on prairie dogs.
@JenkinsStevenD
@JenkinsStevenD Жыл бұрын
@@unclebob540i3 Is that a cartridge you've made? I'm a bit intimidated by reloading. Haven't been able to find anything but the Hornady 103gr, 105gr, and 108gr.
@Coyotekillaz
@Coyotekillaz Жыл бұрын
@@JenkinsStevenDThat’s all that’s available for factory ammo
@calebdavis3110
@calebdavis3110 2 ай бұрын
Im Shooting .26 inch groups with 58 grain vmax going 3200 fps and my 75grain is doing .40 inch groups with 75 grain open tip norma at 3050 fps and .36 inch with a 95 grain Barns LRX ging 2875. great rabbit gun great coyote gun and great dear gun. Same Gun and just chose diferent bullet. Using a oden works 18 inch in an aero m4e1. I will only be using it for hunting but it will cover all my needs.
@4Goutdoors2024
@4Goutdoors2024 Жыл бұрын
So I am shooting the RESOLUTE, Mk4, 6mm ARC, 16.1" 1:7.5 twist. The 103-108 hornady rounds shoot great. I ordered some 75g vmax from hsm and they shoot horrible 5 inch groups at 100 yards. Any idea why? Or what my options are. I would love to shoot a lighter round but is it not going to be great with my barrel specs? I tried to order your rounds but they were out of stock. This is strictly a coyote gun.
@TheKegs96
@TheKegs96 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for saving me money. Was about to buy some till I saw your comment!
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 5 ай бұрын
Ours always sell out immediately. No telling, maybe your rifle doesn’t like them, maybe they suck . Lol
@IntellectualTerritory
@IntellectualTerritory Жыл бұрын
I have found a 12.5 with a folder using a 2-10 with a alpha tarac and a bt 762k can is the best setup for me. Still smashing steel out to 1000. I dont think you need to go long with this cartridge it peforms excellent 800 and in. Having it be 20 inches defeats the purpose of it being a intermediate cartridge. But good episode.
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 5 ай бұрын
Meh , can be whatever you want it to be actually.
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 5 ай бұрын
That said I’m still a fan of 14.5 above all probably.
@johnmorrow5085
@johnmorrow5085 Жыл бұрын
I’m using 85gr Sierra spitters,flat base over 8208 xbr 2900< FPS 18 inch bolt gun,night hunting here in the west,hammer
@jbcaptain11
@jbcaptain11 Жыл бұрын
Adams arms piston for it. Rifle length gas. And buffer. No recoil. Clean chamber
@crashdsnowman1
@crashdsnowman1 10 ай бұрын
The 6mmAR has been around since 2005 or 6, 243LBC and 6mm Predator for several years. Hornady shortened the case .029" to keep from infringing on other designs then released it as the ARC. They really didn't develop anything they just got it SAAMI approved.
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 5 ай бұрын
Ok
@hickboy3067
@hickboy3067 11 ай бұрын
In the works of my first 6ARC upper build, Ive ordered the proof 18" carbon pipe.. but now hearing from others owners its junk for handloading, & only optimized for the 3 heavier factory loads.. any truth to this? 😮
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 5 ай бұрын
Not in my experience.
@tjsosalito5736
@tjsosalito5736 Жыл бұрын
Love the geo pattern mag he has
@nrspence8258
@nrspence8258 Жыл бұрын
Great discussion, I’m going to spin up a 6 arc barrel for my origin action. I also think I’m going to get a geissele when they become available.
@aaron.from.winchester6744
@aaron.from.winchester6744 Жыл бұрын
I’m telling you all. If you shoot suppressed, don’t sleep on the Odin Works bbl. It has a wonky +2 port but it’s beneficial if you shoot suppressed. I have several loads from 95 vld to 108eldm & 108 bergers that shoot in the .3’s. It’s a great budget option. However, with Starline Grendel brass, when reloading for any bullet heavier that 105, I keep getting that damn belted magnum bulge at the case web.
@theproudamerican1967
@theproudamerican1967 Жыл бұрын
I encountered the belting issue early on. The pressure is too high still when the bolt unlocks and starts extraction. The brass is designed for the bolt gun pressures. You can not rely on the traditional pressure sign method when working up loads. Back your charges down 1-1.5grs and the belting should stop, at least it did for me. Warning I have discovered Hornady's load data for the 6ARC to be very hot. With several powders I either couldn't even fit their charge weight in the case or encountered pressure signs well before their max charges
@LRRPFco52
@LRRPFco52 Жыл бұрын
You have to be careful with some barrel makers who ride the edge in terms of case support with the feeding cone cut into the breech. Also control what types of powders you use to keep port pressure down. Faster-burning stick powders tend to eliminate the high port pressure and early unlocking. I also use Bootleg adjustable gas carriers shooting suppressed to tame the action nicely in 6.5 Grendel. I have been shooting 12” Grendel suppressed since 2018 without issue. It’s my favorite stick to reach for.
@fattigla
@fattigla Жыл бұрын
Hornady also states 300,000 bullet rpm is the line in the sand for jacket spinning off the lead core.
@aaron.from.winchester6744
@aaron.from.winchester6744 Жыл бұрын
One more thing, the price of Hornady brass looks to be more expensive that just buying the bullets and hand loading once fired brass. The new brass looks to be damn near $1.00 a case.
@scottbarnett8189
@scottbarnett8189 4 ай бұрын
Something I haven't caught … I’m building an 18” 6mm arc … rifle gas system … suppressed … do you recommend direct or piston driven
@chrisbailor733
@chrisbailor733 10 ай бұрын
What kinda fur damage on coyotes? I understand the heavier bullets have a lot but do you run any lite bullets that are fur friendly?
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 5 ай бұрын
Mixed results on the lighter pills. Mostly good results out of 65’s.
@HC06-19
@HC06-19 9 ай бұрын
What’s y’all’s opinion on a CMMMG Resolute in a 6 Arc or would I be better off building one?
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 5 ай бұрын
Dong have one even still, so still don’t have any.
@mikeelshoff1591
@mikeelshoff1591 2 жыл бұрын
Great video i cant wait to here more about this round. Now I've got a question about primers. Hornady says small rifle and Hogdgons says small rifle mag primers does it really matter which one u use
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 2 жыл бұрын
We’ve ran both , with no issues. We will deep dive the difference over the summer. I primarily run srp magnums though.
@snicklefritzd3612
@snicklefritzd3612 2 жыл бұрын
Look at the joules of energy each primer provides. Variation is minimal, but research for yourself. I am no precision rifle person, so I may be more accepting.
@alchampion340
@alchampion340 2 ай бұрын
I’m using Grendel mags. 😎 I have a Grendel and quite a few Mags.
@SGCXD
@SGCXD Жыл бұрын
Is there a chance they’ll make a two piece case that can push crazy pressures like the 6.8 fury round?
@BuckF0eJiden
@BuckF0eJiden Жыл бұрын
That'll put way too much pressure on your bolt lugs. Those pressures, even in the 6.8 fury, will tear even the most well built rifles to shreds over time. Especially the throat of your barrel.
@crashdsnowman1
@crashdsnowman1 10 ай бұрын
No the Grendel bolts are already too weak to hold up, pushing the pressure to 80K would break them on the first shot.
@Tcat88
@Tcat88 Жыл бұрын
Don't know who's more obsessed wade and tanidized or Fitzy and Tswizzle. Yall made me order a noveske 18in barrel. Hope for some vmax factory loads soon. Very ethical within MOA of the dome on anything in here in North FL or the south
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 5 ай бұрын
I do love me some tan!
@dremc94
@dremc94 Жыл бұрын
Have you guys seen any noticeable difference between a 22" and 20" 6ARC with the 105-112grn stuff? All things being equal.
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting Жыл бұрын
We will cover that in a later podcast.
@dustinmurray6342
@dustinmurray6342 Жыл бұрын
@@txpredatorhunting. I just ordered a 20” proof and have instant remorse. We need the long barrel podcast to talk me off the ledge.
@tphpodcast
@tphpodcast Жыл бұрын
We answer this question in depth on the podcast, E73 going up next week, going up August 30th. Thanks for asking it!
@dremc94
@dremc94 Жыл бұрын
@dustinmurray6342 I put a 22" douglas on mine trust me, there is nothing to regret! Dang thing is a laser beam, a little under 30minutes of drop at 1000
@joegonzalez5602
@joegonzalez5602 Ай бұрын
Has anyone used hornady black 105 grain for deer hunting? I know it's not ideal but just curious if anyone can give feedback.
@mostrogolf22
@mostrogolf22 Жыл бұрын
Still doing initial testing on my Frankenstein, it shares a lower with a 223wylde. They both shoot really good. You touched on psi of AR vs BA, I think it's possible to make an AR barrel capable of Bolt gun pressures. Do you know of a barrel fabricator that is working on a project like that? I enjoy your show. Thank you.
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting Жыл бұрын
It’s not a barrel issue, it’s the ar platform it self I’d imagine. All the moving parts. Bcg etc.
@Coyotekillaz
@Coyotekillaz Жыл бұрын
Not a barrel issue. It’s an internal components issue and the back pressure created in a gas gun. You can load to bolt pressures just don’t expect your rifle to last.
@Haydini69
@Haydini69 2 жыл бұрын
Great podcast! First episode I’ve heard from y’all but definitely gonna stuck around. Building my first 6arc right now an LMT upper and mars-l lower and in between a 16” or 18” Compass Lake Barltein barrel, JP bolt, Geissele ssa-e trigger, and Vltor A5 buffer system
@rustynut1967
@rustynut1967 2 жыл бұрын
Compass Lake did my barrel. 22" from a Criterion blank. I started with an Aero bolt but now have a JP. I also use the A5 buffer.👍
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! We appreciate it!
@Haydini69
@Haydini69 2 жыл бұрын
@@rustynut1967 oh nice how do you like the barrel? I’ve heard the jp bolt is the best. How’s it shoot with the a5? I put it in most of my builds
@rustynut1967
@rustynut1967 2 жыл бұрын
@@Haydini69 Compass Lake is one of the top AR barrel builders, excellent work. You'll be very happy. I get consistent .75" groups, you should do even better with the Bartlein. On the 6 ARC forum I have a long post about what I went through with bolts. The A5 worked out great, but when I first put it together the spring from Vltor wasn't available, built in 2020 when nearly everything was hard to come by. The spingco spring I used originally was to stiff, I have since replaced it with a Vltor spring. Perfect!
@Haydini69
@Haydini69 2 жыл бұрын
@@rustynut1967 oh nice yeah I’ve heard great things about compass lake. Vltor springs are easier to come by now but I had a spare laying around anyways. What bolt would you suggest? I got a Jp and lmt carrier
@1776-d7u
@1776-d7u Жыл бұрын
What buffer system are you using ?
@FlatEarthFighter
@FlatEarthFighter Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of ordering a 22 inch Shaw upper for my build
@johnd843
@johnd843 Жыл бұрын
Yep....6.5 Grendel fan man here! but looking to use up of my .243 bullets with a 6 ARC. I have 500 ct 85g smk, 300 ct 90g Barns, 300 85g Barns and a few 100's of 100g bullets. So, hoping to get a good shooter with an ARC. Looking at CMMG 16" rifle gas, any thought on this barrel?
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting Жыл бұрын
Haven’t tested that one yet.
@georgerost1949
@georgerost1949 2 жыл бұрын
Have you done any testing with 22" AR platform with 95gr Bergers ?
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 2 жыл бұрын
20” is the longest we’ve tested 95 gr bergers in , worked very well.
@SgtDvldawg
@SgtDvldawg 2 жыл бұрын
Was going to ask the same question. Built my daughter a 21" Odin and I am waiting on my 22" X-Caliber to come in and have 1000 95gr Berger Classics waiting. I have a boat load of AR Comp Hopefully it will do well in both! Thanks for the coverage on this. What you guys do is Awesome. I was always an opportunistic predator hunter. I have since bought 2 E callers so we can start trying our luck. Thanks for all the great information.
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 2 жыл бұрын
@@SgtDvldawg we appreciate it .
@rustynut1967
@rustynut1967 2 жыл бұрын
@@SgtDvldawg AR-Comp did not do well in my 22" barrel with 105gr. You will probably get pressure signs at lower velocities and problems with cycling the bolt. Other people have not had good results either. Leverevolution cci 41 primers works good. Varget cci 450 primers work great for small groups but lower velocities.
@SgtDvldawg
@SgtDvldawg 2 жыл бұрын
@rustynut1967 Thank you Brother. I appreciate that info.I have plenty 41's and 450's. I only have 2lbs of LVR and 2 of Varget. May need to get more LVR. I was hoping for more temp stable living in the 4 stupid weather/season PA. I will see what I can come up with. Again I appreciate you!
@JJ-fe5ii
@JJ-fe5ii Жыл бұрын
I recently bought a 18” Wilson combat upper in 6arc, what do you recommend for a coyote load, or what’s your favorite coyote load? It’s a 1x7.5 twist ant I shoot suppressed
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting Жыл бұрын
For 18” I load 65 gr vmax
@Serenityindailylife
@Serenityindailylife Жыл бұрын
Yeah, at 30 guns my wife was like I don't care, buy what you want. At 60 she was like I'm being supportive and don't mind it. At 100 she was like, how are you ever going to shoot all of those? At 140 she was like, are you going to open a shop? 180, she finally realized it was a huge part of my life.
@InkwellFoto
@InkwellFoto Жыл бұрын
Any information on a bolt action 6mm ARC? Im looking for the best length barrel and twist rate for the factory loads (103,105,108 until i start to reload). Is 1:7.5 twist still good in a 22"?
@AComer9
@AComer9 Жыл бұрын
I’d like to know the same thing
@tphpodcast
@tphpodcast Жыл бұрын
We answer this question in depth on the podcast, E73 going up next week, going up August 30th. Thanks for asking it!
@InkwellFoto
@InkwellFoto Жыл бұрын
@@tphpodcast thank you for answering it
@tlinderbmw
@tlinderbmw Ай бұрын
So Federal designed the 224 Valkyrie and Hornady made great match ammo for the caliber. Why won’t Federal make 6 ARC ammo or any other manufacturer ??
@BuckF0eJiden
@BuckF0eJiden Жыл бұрын
How do you feel about the 95 grain TMKs? Even at listed max pressure, you're looking at about 2850 fps with BLC2, and the TMK is a fantastic round, even in terminal performance from what I've seen in other calibers. I run the heavier TMKs in 5.56, and have had no trouble taking hogs or deer with it.
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting Жыл бұрын
Ran some on some pigs and I was happy with performance.
@tphpodcast
@tphpodcast Жыл бұрын
We answer this question in depth on the podcast going up next week, going up August 30th.
@BuckF0eJiden
@BuckF0eJiden Жыл бұрын
@@tphpodcast awesome. Thanks for the reply bud.
@cadillacvelocity
@cadillacvelocity Жыл бұрын
Have you guys looked at getting the Uintah Precision bolt gun upper for an AR lower?
@cryptohammer2400
@cryptohammer2400 Жыл бұрын
Who would you recommend makes the best overall 6arc ar. Cost reliability accuracy
@tphpodcast
@tphpodcast Жыл бұрын
We answer this question in depth on the podcast, E73 going up next week, going up August 30th. Thanks for asking it!
@JamesWalker-ng1qh
@JamesWalker-ng1qh Жыл бұрын
Good video! Been kickin around with doing a 14.5" 6 ARC AR. This was a great and well rounded overview. How about "Texas Tater Talks"
@chucksterK76
@chucksterK76 Жыл бұрын
How does a 14.5 6ARC compare to the grendel in the same barrel length in terms of game and distance? And would what are your thoughts on a 14.5 6.5 Creedmoor? Thanks!
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting Жыл бұрын
I don’t recommend any creeds under 18” yes they will do well, but better cartridges for shorter barrels. I’d prefer arc over Grendel , when you consider bc to velocity.
@J.Co89
@J.Co89 Жыл бұрын
@Texas Predator Hunting W.D.C I've heard you mention you like the 14.5 a few times. Is this mainly in an AR? Have you ran one in a bolt gun?
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting Жыл бұрын
@@J.Co89 not yet. My 6 arc bolt rigs go down to 16” . Currently
@mostrogolf22
@mostrogolf22 Жыл бұрын
About the hour 30 mark you briefly spoke about seating.... stay away from the lands, etc. Im there, now, what is your thought of keeping it at at mag length but using an ogive measurement that you determined to be a happy medium? I'm gonna do that and see where it takes me.
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting Жыл бұрын
All depends on what projectile you are using.
@kochj0713
@kochj0713 9 ай бұрын
I think the 6 mm has the most bullet selection from all the different brands there’s got to be 3 to 6 different weights for varmint four different weights for precision and another 3 to 4 different weights for not to mention from all the different manufacturers 6 mm is king when it comes to bowl with selection This, of course, if you roll your own
@dannydivine7699
@dannydivine7699 2 жыл бұрын
Tikka is troublesome for 6 ARC or the Grendel because they have no compatible bolt face calibers that I can find
@cripmaster6451
@cripmaster6451 Жыл бұрын
What do you think about a 18 inch 6 arc for black tail
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting Жыл бұрын
Would work famously.
@waynemensen4252
@waynemensen4252 2 жыл бұрын
My 16" Pro2A tactical 1:7.5 hates 105 black. 4moa. I mag dumped it into the burm. 🤣 103 with LeverEvelution is nice. None of my reloads did worse than the blacks.
@mckimmym
@mckimmym Жыл бұрын
I went as low as it goes on my AR bolt for 6 ARC. I got an upper with BCG for 100$ from BCA. I really wanted a side charger since I planned to have a big scope on top. So far so good, shoots sub moa with an EABCO barrel and factory ammo
@tedarcher9120
@tedarcher9120 5 ай бұрын
How much for the barrel?
@mckimmym
@mckimmym 5 ай бұрын
@@tedarcher9120 around 250 I think
@tedarcher9120
@tedarcher9120 5 ай бұрын
@@mckimmym not bad
@markmtbrider
@markmtbrider Жыл бұрын
On the fence 6.5 Grendel or 6 arc ? I guess there's not much difference out to 400 yards or so . The application is night ops coyote catching primarily , AR platform.
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting Жыл бұрын
I’d want the arc myslef.
@user-qe1ex4kp2g
@user-qe1ex4kp2g Жыл бұрын
What powder do you use for reloading 6mm arc or powders ! 6mm arc is amazing !
@Coyotekillaz
@Coyotekillaz Жыл бұрын
We’ve had great luck with X-Terminator and Accurate 2230
@theproudamerican1967
@theproudamerican1967 Жыл бұрын
I use a fire forming load of 28.5gr of Leverevolution with a 100gr hornady interlock seated to he middle of the cannule with Wolf SRP. Mine is grouping just under 1moa. This is zero load development other than a pressure work up. Haven't used it on any critters yet but it smacks the hell out of steel plates. The 100gr interlock is cheap and plentiful.
@TheSamsamdd34
@TheSamsamdd34 Жыл бұрын
whats the Best 6Arc Rifle under 3gs also how many shots can 6 arc can fire without massive problems come up?
@michaelmeyers1827
@michaelmeyers1827 Жыл бұрын
I’m buying a howa barreled action an am giving it to my son in 6 arc
@dankcincy
@dankcincy Жыл бұрын
I thought for sure that you were going to say that 2023 was going to be "The year of the Arc". lol
@DontDoDaylight
@DontDoDaylight 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome guys appreciate it
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@joshwebb609
@joshwebb609 Жыл бұрын
I love my Atheris upper it shoots
@chrisn9657
@chrisn9657 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please give me a hint on a stable powder for a 16 inch proof barrel? You mentioned varget on a longer barrel and hinted at a CFE 223 and lever evolution on the shorter barrels but these aren’t temperature stable.
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 2 жыл бұрын
Grab up a powder burn rate chart and look at powders slightly fast burning than varget .
@chrisn9657
@chrisn9657 2 жыл бұрын
Benchmark?
@imjustadude
@imjustadude Жыл бұрын
I've had luck with CFE223 and Levr in the 28-30 grain range.
@dankcincy
@dankcincy Жыл бұрын
It really does seem that lever is about the best bet. A lot of people have tried the faster powders and for lighter, sub 90gr pills, it's ok at best. Above that you pressure out pretty quickly.
@ryanjennings6541
@ryanjennings6541 5 ай бұрын
I much prefer my skeletonized timney's to my geissele and other's . The break is so smooth but that reset ... it's just magnificent .
@michaelcerrone1482
@michaelcerrone1482 2 жыл бұрын
I'm seriously considering re-barrelling my Daniel Defense into 6mm ARC. Any suggestions? Thinking of going with a 16" barrel, what material/maker would you recommend? I'll look for a JP BCG, but what gas block? It will be suppressed with a Sandman-L. Would love to get some advice. Also, I'm going to try out yall's ammo, which would you recommend? Mostly hunting with this, it will be for my 12 year old son.
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 2 жыл бұрын
We’ve had great luck with proof barrels thus far . I’m a fan of stainless barrels myslef. We currently don’t have any 6mm arc in stock. Thanks for watching.
@dankcincy
@dankcincy Жыл бұрын
You could just put together another upper. Pretty inexpensive option.
@dexterous187
@dexterous187 Жыл бұрын
The green and brown go together like lamb and tuna fish.
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting Жыл бұрын
😂
@joshwebb609
@joshwebb609 Жыл бұрын
108s for the win
@LRRPFco52
@LRRPFco52 Жыл бұрын
“Type I” and “Type II” are misnomers. The 6.5 Grendel bolt is an evolution of the .50 Beowulf bolt, which was based on lessons learned by Colt on the 7.62x39 AR-15 program. Alexander Arms did lots of research on getting 7.62x39 case heads to work inside the AR-15 action, and the biggest issue with that case is the rim dimensions. This drives how much extractor lip you need. That pushed the bolt face depth back .011” to allow for the use of a thicker lipped extractor that won’t fold over like after-market 7.62x39 bolt extractors do. Years after AA introduced the 6.5 Grendel, after-market companies who didn’t do any real analysis figured they could use .125” bolt face depth no problem. One particular company, BHW, used their own internal naming convention to distinguish between their .125” face depth 7.62x39 bolts, and their Grendel bolts with .136” face depths. They called their .125” 7.62x39 bolts “Type I” and their .136” Grendel bolts “Type II”. Unfortunately, this naming approach caught-on in the industry, even though real Grendel bolts existed from the start with .136” face depth. There are also differences in extractor pin and shelf locations, bolt tail length to account for the face depth, and radii on the lugs and face to inner wall in the face to add material and strength to the lug roots. Material selection, processes, and heat-treating are also important and should follow the Colt Canada/KAC/AA methods, not the TDP for M16/M4 bolts with HPT and MPI.
@lb7pr
@lb7pr Жыл бұрын
I heard you mention getting a lot of gas in your face. Will this still be the case with no suppressor?
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting Жыл бұрын
Not as bad . Supressors cause back pressure.
@tphpodcast
@tphpodcast Жыл бұрын
Wade is sensitive. He's a bolt gun shooter through and through, so any amount of back pressure is too much for him. The factory 108 Hornady loads are definitely gassier than average. Without a can you probably won't notice it unless you're pulling the trigger as fast as you can.
@chtomlin
@chtomlin 3 ай бұрын
Why is 22 in strictly for varmints in his case?
@peterschmidt2849
@peterschmidt2849 Жыл бұрын
We need a 22” 6 Arc Predator 😊🤙🏻🇺🇸
@dustinshaw2419
@dustinshaw2419 11 ай бұрын
What happened to the rabbits? Anything left?
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 5 ай бұрын
Plague
@waynemensen4252
@waynemensen4252 2 жыл бұрын
Please tell me your favorite powder for varmints? What clip-on night vision?
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 2 жыл бұрын
Cnvd-lr. Or pvs 24 lr
@V.Scheff.V
@V.Scheff.V Жыл бұрын
Look into 6mm max, brand new cartridge
@tompanek7511
@tompanek7511 4 ай бұрын
Petty much splitting hairs. Looks like the 6 ARC excels past the 6 Max with heavier bullets at long range.
@Serenityindailylife
@Serenityindailylife Жыл бұрын
Timney triggers like to run very clean, when dirty they fall off.
@mylesharvey6488
@mylesharvey6488 Жыл бұрын
How is Grendel Hunters honestly?
@projectcikala1943
@projectcikala1943 Жыл бұрын
TPH,s “The Rally”
@Coyote-clint
@Coyote-clint 2 жыл бұрын
Wades digressions!!
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a good one!
@almaadams3631
@almaadams3631 Жыл бұрын
Tell me about it! I had to skip the interview. Everytime I was about to recieve pertinent info, the SOB would sidetrack me into blah blah blah!
@dremc94
@dremc94 Жыл бұрын
Wish the 243Win would get a face lift and standardize faster twist rates! I somehow have a load with Hybrid 100V and 95grn amax's that give 3150fps and 1/2moa groups in a ruger american 🤷🏾‍♂️
@LowSpeedHighDrag5
@LowSpeedHighDrag5 2 жыл бұрын
Wade’s World
@806Guns
@806Guns 2 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on satern barrels ?
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 2 жыл бұрын
We haven’t tested any of those currently.
@doghoggers128
@doghoggers128 2 жыл бұрын
"TPH time outs" or TPH tactical time outs..15min podcas Flat base vs boat tails Powder burn rates for barrel length
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 2 жыл бұрын
We will put it on the list.
@TEAMPHANTOMDAWGS
@TEAMPHANTOMDAWGS 2 жыл бұрын
My next pew pew!! Great podcast 👏
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@TEAMPHANTOMDAWGS
@TEAMPHANTOMDAWGS 2 жыл бұрын
@@txpredatorhunting 👍
@waynemensen4252
@waynemensen4252 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried any copper bullets?
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 2 жыл бұрын
Not yet.
@unclebob540i3
@unclebob540i3 2 жыл бұрын
I watched another channel use 85gr Lehigh Controlled Chaos with good results. I haven't used them in my ARC yet, but the 110 gainers in one of our Grendels has dealt some serious devastation to coyotes.
@tyeburch4273
@tyeburch4273 Жыл бұрын
Podcast name could be "Short Action"
@TOMASH0925
@TOMASH0925 Жыл бұрын
Good thanks for making me build another AR lol
@jeffreywilson690
@jeffreywilson690 Жыл бұрын
The barns lrx for the larger game in the 6arc
@longridgehunter
@longridgehunter 2 жыл бұрын
TPH short stands. Podcasts are long enough for the drive to work. Wife would call the short ones TPH Shitbreaks since all she hears is load data and velocities coming from the bathroom 😂
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@michaelcerrone1482
@michaelcerrone1482 2 жыл бұрын
Clearing the throat, with Wade.
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@Brimwald
@Brimwald 2 жыл бұрын
So this guy has an ammo company? What is it?
@txpredatorhunting
@txpredatorhunting 2 жыл бұрын
Ally Munitions
@l337l0gan
@l337l0gan Жыл бұрын
How does everyone feel about a 12.5" arc ?
@tphpodcast
@tphpodcast Жыл бұрын
We answer this question in depth on the podcast going up next week, going up August 30th.
@l337l0gan
@l337l0gan Жыл бұрын
@@tphpodcast great! Thank you! I am an AR guy but haven't made the jump to 6 arc yet. Looking forward to hearing the episode
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