5 Best and Worst Modern Games Workshop Kits

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[@drkcape27]

Excellent product placement I was snorting with laughter. well done.

[@aaronf4845]

best product placement for manscaped ever, hands down...

[@demon1103]

The Necron Royal Court box will always make me laugh at it's absurdity. It released as 5 models for $110...when at the same time you could get the entire Necron half of Indomitus for $90....WTF XD

[@happyjeffy]

Then they sold the entire necron royal court sprue in Imperium magazine issue 50 for £9 lmao

[@LukasEisenring]

IMHO, the old Boyz are one of the best kit. Easy and fun to play with the options, repose and modify.

[@Beardo_wow]

This, I found it so disappointing building the new boyz realising that without conversion, I had to have it how it comes and with orks I feel like that goes against what the army is about

[@joeofdoom]

@@Beardo_wow yeah I had that feeling with all the Ork buggies, they look great but theres no variation in them at all and its kinda boring.

[@absolutfreak5012]

The way the boyz kit works with the stormboyz and burnas/lootas kits seamlessly was fantastic. The parts also easily converted to be used for bikers as well. I made a great unit of kommandos from mixing all the kits before the cool new Kill Team ones released. I dislike the new boyz kit so much, and want it to go away outside of something like a combat patrol (and I don't even like it there).

[@vincentlinsin6549]

@@absolutfreak5012 Don't forget all the free tankbustas you can make with the rocket launchers

[@TheSonOfRyan]

Good thing the new version is going online only

[@OmegaLittleBob]

Yeah the new Cultist kit breaks my heart. I LOVE how they look, they’re aesthetic is nice balance between scary and crazy. But they are just too damn expensive.

[@bretts2356]

As soon as I saw the sponsor, I knew that the plug for them would be hilarious. Video did not fail to deliver. Well done, guys. Well done.

[@AltheSpiderlord]

How Necron Flayed ones didn't make this list i will never know. Awful models, horrendously priced.

[@JuanThunder79]

real truth right there!!

[@MatthewClareMusic]

Personally I love the sculpts. Hate assembling them and I hate the price but I love the look of them

[@DeathInTheSnow]

I'm so glad I nabbed mine from the Imperium magazine they had. Those prices are rough...

[@steelemcc]

$84 in aus for like 54 points in game such bullshit aha

[@joeofdoom]

@@steelemcc it's bullshit everywhere and nobody really knows why GW have priced them like that, my guess is they hate the mold and would rather not have to make them but can't justify removing them from sale just yet so are just pricing out 99% of players.

[@robertbrooks2910]

That was the best manscaped promo I have seen yet. Absolute genius!

[@HShaud]

I like the Cawdor gang kit personally. Great aesthetic, fun to build with lots of personality!

[@thegreyknight1092]

Same

[@gil10mtn]

I'm so damn exited to paint that new Daemon Prince in the Slaves To Darkness set. I plan to get one for every variation when they are available individually.

[@jackofn0trades29]

On the subject of Chaos Culists, games workshop for years encouraged conversion and kitbashes from other kits like Necromunda and guard, when traitor guard came out in BSF, I regularly used them as cultist proxies. I don’t think GW minds most conversions as long as it’s their products and GW is such a diverse range where I think it’s possible to have cadian shock troops for Alpha Legion or Orlock gangers as iron warriors. It’s all about fun and flavor IMO.

[@poohbear4821]

GW absolutely do not encourage conversion and kitbashing lol. Theyve been removing rules from codices to stop people doing it

[@jackofn0trades29]

@@poohbear4821 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWelhGh9jrR1la8 they generalize rules especially when it comes to cultists minis like the “cultist firearms” and “improvised weapons” rules. While yes, 40K does have many beginner friendly rules implemented, GW can still be flexible when giving allowing us to customize our minis.

[@socalastarte6727]

I’ve got 40 of the old Dark Vengeance cultists, 10 of the new ones and the 8 that came with Blackstone Fortress. I’ve got nearly 60 different cultist models and they look great.

[@merengueatang4]

Surely a bunch of the DV cultists are dupes? I had 20 of them and I definitely had some pairs.

[@socalastarte6727]

Nearly 60, handful of dupes. I painted the dupes different color schemes so they look pretty good in a rabble mob.

[@mhicks31]

my vote is for the Kroot Carnivore kit. So many extra cool bits.

[@reddragon4482]

A dreadnought costing $107 should not be anywhere near a top 5 value for money deal bro. I don't care if it's $300 on forgeworld lol.

[@rutgaurxi7314]

Buying from GW/ FW LOL, LMO even.

[@Goblinhandler]

I mean, for Horus Heresy, you only need one

[@blaisebenoit-corey8172]

He didn't say it was good value, he actually said it was still to expensive, just that it is much better value than the fw model

[@elRandomTk]

I started an Ork army after the glow up, with the big beast snaggas release and the commandos (I always loved them, but the old bodies didn't do it for me, I was indeed waiting for a redesign). I got the start collecting and the christmas box (the one with the trike and the plane) and ended up with 4 of the boys kit. I converted them with an old boys kit, together with the old nobz kit, they really give you all the parts you need to make the models all different and actually good looking. You gotta chop the new models at the shoulders and heads, try to be clean so you can reuse some of them on other bodies, together with the ones from the old boyz kit. The old kit has A LOT of wonderful spare parts and little things to make models unique - little note, all new boys have a granade on them, I cut most of them and added in other places for variety, also try to customize shoulder pads and always switch heads. The game changer for me was the nobz kit, because it has 20 shoulder pads to cover the joints (they are big for old standards, they go on perfectly) I mostly used just glue and very little green stuff Now I got 30 boyz with slugga and choppa, plus the one with the big shoota. The total number would be 36 (9 in each box) but I used 5 to make a unit of burnas. You can use the standing poses, cutting at the waist and fuse with the upper bodies from the old burna kit using green stuff, this is a little trickier tho. The only other modification were 1 mm thick 'pads' of green stuff before attaching the arms, as to make them a little bulkier. P.s. I still ended up buying another kit to reach 4 full squads lol Remember the nobz kit? You can use the arms and heads to customize the nob in the new kit, they actually work wonders but you need green stuff again. Overall I am really happy with the result, having to do so much conversion will make you feel like a true ork :D and the old kits are top quality and must buy for sure. The new kit really feels like it should be in a launch box, I completely agree the should make a true hybrid one (and put some bitz ffs, they are orks!)

[@odharrison23]

You saving a grass tuft on a squat model. Amazing!!! My favorite sponsor video ever!! Thanks gents fantastic as always!!!

[@Gumupah]

That ad was fantastic. Had me rolling.

[@planetap2745]

Primaris kit is good! but really needed a couple of wargear options...

[@BlastedRodent]

About Forge World, they still have a purpose as the place to sell ultra-niche models that it doesn’t make sense to make in plastic. Things like Necromunda hangers-ons, Blood Bowl star players and Horus Heresy named characters (at least until HH becomes big enough to support them in plastic. The small scale of resin production allows for some bonkers models with extremely limited application that I doubt would ever be greenlit in plastic, and for games like Necromunda, that is just what you need. But for everything else, yes, Forge World is redundant. I think GW knows that too, when was the last time anything for 40k was released there?

[@kristianjensen5877]

I think Forgeworld also has a place for super detailed models needing an ultra-crisp finish to work. Models with a lot of filligree/embellishment and highly distinct faces still seem like a bit of a challenge to get right using injection molds. At least personally, I feel like I can tell there's quite a difference between ex. a FW resin contemptor (with legion/chapter embellishments) and a standard plastic GW produced model when it comes to the crispness of the details.

[@josephskiles]

I love my FW models

[@chadmrrsn]

@@midnightclad888 trust me it isn't better in the uk

[@josephskiles]

@@midnightclad888 they sell stuff because some people want showpiece models as explained in the video, it just sucks that GW won't allow them in their stores ( even if I don't go into them I'd like to have the option at least). FW is the only place my Night Lords get any love, and their models are awesome.

[@AkaIceBear]

A lot of Tau models have that same modulator capabilities. It's a blessing and a curse, but you can get some wicked poses. Especially from Commander models.

[@dr.squirrels600]

The chaos cultists sprues become less confusing when you realize they just took the existing sprues that came with the Blackstone Fortress game and put that sprue in a stand-alone box with no changes. Why are there 8 cultists? Because that’s how many show up during that encounter in Blackstone. Same reason they’re monopose, they’re more board game pieces than they are 40K models.

[@lelandkirchmaier7581]

You gotta mix the legs/bodies from other kits. I switched 5 and 5 from an assault intercessor kit. 20 unique marines!

[@CyrodiilCome]

That's nearly $100 for a 10 man team

[@lelandkirchmaier7581]

@@CyrodiilCome No that would be 20 marines for 100$. All unique

[@CyrodiilCome]

@@lelandkirchmaier7581 but you're using the bits from another kit to make this kit better. So that's $100 for 10 unique posed marines

[@orkinho1]

@@CyrodiilCome It's an option if you are going to buy both kits anyways obviously.

[@Goblinhandler]

@@CyrodiilCome all 20 would have unique poses

[@kenupton4084]

GW recuperates their expenses on master molds in 6 months. The packaging costs more than the models themselves. A sprue of Primaris Marines is about 30 cents to manufacture including the materials. The box they go in however... You need to paint a set of the models, photograph them, get the card stock, print the images, laminate them, dye cut them, fold them, glue them, add the upcs to the inventory, pack the bases in plastic, put the product in the box, put the box in a separate sleeve with new art work that had to be commissioned and designed and labeled and photographed and so on so on... And then you have to ship those boxes.

[@WorldOfWeebcraft]

Other companies do better packaging for much less

[@kikolokopo_toys]

I painted 100 sisters of battle for a comission and yes, they feel unique. Each one of them

[@skert.01]

22:30 "Good eon ya" lol unintended or not, that was great bit of wordplay

[@AdeptusRidiculous-2025]

I love what you did with this sponsor!!😆😎👍

[@kristianjensen5877]

A shaved squat?!? A space dwarf with no groin beard?!? That's a grudgin' if I've ever seen one. That goes straight into The Book.

[@andreasburman]

Always wondered if something like siocast plastic would make for a better forgeworld experience than resin, guess one issue is that gw wouldn't like being tied to a proprietary system...

[@LeeAllanSpades]

It is funny because your well founded issue with monopose making a kit bad is actually a major selling point for me. I have so many models still unpainted and on the sprue because I hate building. Blades make me nervous and I despise plastic glue and sand paper for ADHD sensory reasons. So seeing some cool games workshop model that I just have to snip and paint with minimal building? That sounds like a dream.

[@DasFork]

I recall another youtuber who owns several saying that the dreadnought you mentioned here only comes with ONE of each weapon, which is why they sell the weapon sprue separately.

[@trzynasty909]

Yeah, Leviathan comes with 1 of each. Then you have to either buy a second set of melee or ranged to get them with doubles of the same weapons.

[@rlee1332]

For worst, I feel like flayed ones need a shoutout. All the problems of the cultists, but also only come in a box of 5, so you need to buy twice as many if you want to spam them.

[@filamentio]

OK this is the best sponsoring i have seen here on youtube :D

[@Bluewater1976]

I believe the Necrons are on one sprue, that is why they are such an unique grouping.

[@yesmilord2350]

Your masncaped ad is my favorite in video sponsored promo I've ever seen.

[@akumaking1]

How about making a “Most overpriced GW products” video?

[@reddragon4482]

Same video.

[@InterrogatorchaplainAsmodai]

I quite like the new mk6 tactical marines for horus heresy, there scaled in between the older style tactical marines but not exactly primaris scale

[@davidhills7986]

There is 10 unique primaris poses. You can use the assault intercessors for more poses.

[@heretic192]

The "Blooded" kill team should be the benchmark for any chaos cultists kit in terms of options.

[@markgnepper5636]

Great stuff friend 👏 👍

[@NexAura1]

The deathwatch vet kit is an easy 10/10 kit for me. Goes together super well, the waist ball joint isnt super wonky like the old tactical kit, and heaps of options.

[@thenerfkid9228]

Absolutely. They go hard

[@AndrewDawnbringer]

"Plastic is so much cheaper" Combat Patrol: Blood Angels $150 Start Collecting! Astra Militarum $95 Well, guess I'm poor or something.

[@ToffeeTroll]

If I do not have a 3d printer. Can i buy the terrain printed?

[@eastoforion]

redemptor hype, it's genuinely so good.

[@johndonovan2911]

I like how you pronounce Sororitas like Carnitas lol

[@originalarmedprophet7760]

“This video is brought to you by Manscaped.” Jesus, there’s a left turn right out of the gate!

[@CynUnion-ji9uj]

The new heresy contemptor is, in my experience, super modular like the redemptor. I personally fucked up building my a little, he leans back a touch to far.

[@saint-lu_antonin]

this sponso is the best by far. That moment i see the true squat with fluffy balls... that killed me bro ahahahha

[@toplayDA_]

The royal court box set is meant to be bought with the recruit and elite edition box sets, same with the honored of the chapter box

[@shadowcaptaincain]

The Necron Royal Court and Space Marine Honoured of the Chapter is they are the only ways to get the Indomitus exclusive miniatures. And it's by design. So if you want a Skorpekh Destroyer Lord, or a Primaris Judicar or Bladeguard Ancient your only two options are either buy the way overpriced boxs from GW or see if you can find them on the second hand market. Because those three units are not available anywhere else.

[@escapebeyond7078]

or dont be a drone and buy aftermarket or 3d p

[@shadowcaptaincain]

@@escapebeyond7078 Um I did say second hand market.

[@escapebeyond7078]

@@shadowcaptaincain thats not what i meant by aftermarket. buying "used" models on ebay is just a huge price gouge. if gw doesnt want to supply their figures in an honest manner then ppl will just get alternative ones. i shouldnt have to scour ebay and pay 3x the initial price for a model

[@viccotr]

BEST ADS EVER!

[@MrDrTJ]

The good thing about the primaris marines is that all the bodies are interchangeable, so you have the standard kit, the hell blasters and the assault squad to mix up

[@CdrChaos]

4:43 Agreed, FW needs to take their unreasonable prices and go away. There’s no reason why a vehicle the size of an Ogryn costs as much as a Leman Russ.

[@star_wars_miniatures]

I think you’re wrong about forge world resin. Middle earth SBG models that are made by forge world are fantastic! Insanely detailed! The new Glorfindel model for example is phenomenal and will win GW’s miniature of the year award

[@ori-yorudan]

I know this is a year old comment, but I reckon the Glorfindel model could easily be cast in GW plastic and have the same detail. Look at the detail on the plastic Tahlia Vedra kit for Age of Sigmar, or the Freeguild Cavaliers.

[@Lux3266]

In the adeptus sororitas first image, no one can convince me that the bottom right one has the coolest looking pose 2:29

[@shadowman484]

No chaos spawns? It's best kit if we are going for bits value, still finding places to use them year after buying my firs pair.

[@Ahriman_362]

Another bad thing about cultists is, you don't have the option to model them with autoguns. You have to proxy which is annoying imo. I'm using guardsmen but i would like actual cultists

[@captainferrite]

Even better at multipart muscle with monopose anatomical accuracy than Aberrants are the Rockgut Troggoths. It's an insane kit with dozens of combinations, the trick is that each arm comes with its own back musculature.

[@PapaGlitch]

"People generally do a bad job" hit me deep in my soul

[@NeoNaiche]

Also; the Necromunda scavves should have made it on this list, because they’re as great as the Sisters/Primaris, while hitting the limitations of the Primaris/Catachan

[@sweatilaa5325]

I much prefer the older style of Space Marine backpack and helmets, think they look so much better and the backpacks are way more detailed on the firstborn kits, thenew ones are quite plain while the old had some variation to them making them look more 40K. The new backpacks are also a lot bigger and the connection points dont fit all that well with the older ones, so adding older backpacks make them look pretty weird, wish they at least kept the same connection point system for the backpacks :/

[@rasmuskock8077]

Yeah the Primaris marines all look the same, with pretty much no customisation or personality. Firstborn all had little identifying details, and wat cooler helmets

[@sweatilaa5325]

@@rasmuskock8077yeah, that is exactly what the Primaris are missing. All the tiny details, you know how each gun or rifle could have a skull, an Imperial Aquila, a Imperialis aquila, or a half Imperial or Imperialis. Or they could be plain. Then how the chain swords had a few variations depending on what pommel you wanted. Tiny details like that is what could make two same looking marines still feel different. And don't get me started on the fact that we can often get a big and beautiful beaky helmet in each kit! It's quite depressing how many different bits there can be left over from a firstborn kit compared to a primaris.

[@stephenchurch1784]

If you think the necron royal court suck, remember that the kruleboyz have a model (the shaman) that you really want 2-3 of in your army which can only be obtained through the second and third tier starter boxes. Luckily scalpers overbought dominion so you can pick up the whole box for about the same price as the second tier starter kit

[@Rammarkostein]

I knew the new orks were making the list. I was midly frustrated with the ork combat patrol not giving you the option of building one squad of shoota boyz and one of choppa boyz, but i figured the separate box would have more options. Silly me. Also, the old box gave you 11 models, 10 boyz to add to existing squads and a nob to put on a Nobz mob or make some conversions on, or even count as a regular boy, since it's not actually bigger than the boyz themselves. WUT HAF' 'EM DONE WIF ME BOYZ

[@craigkniffin4948]

The more I see the redemptor dreadnought the more I see the invictor war suit

[@radiospace7071]

The scion kit is really nice five guys for around 40$ with the ability to make it into a command squad or regular guys with special weapons is really nice

[@trzynasty909]

It is a great kit... but it is 40$ for 5 dudes. In the Guard no less. I really think that it should have been split so that you'd have 10 models in total 5 of which could make the Tempestor Prime and command or be just regular Scions. Still works perfectly well for the box they have! Just doesn't waste so much plastic.

[@radiospace7071]

@@trzynasty909 true dat i built the regular scions with special weapons. Wouldve preferred it to be 10 dudes or have it seperate

[@Haruharuharuko1942]

Hey the chaos cultists actually have 14 poses but total 10 models 4 of them you can choose between like a lady with a tentacle or not as well as about 6-10 additional heads

[@revanruler6404]

I don't know if this counts as a modern kit but i love the blood cauldron kit for daughters of khaine just so many options and such good value

[@idiealot9958]

Sir, you probably meant that you have a “hypothesis”, not a “theory”. But, other than that - great material.

[@kenupton4084]

If there is a new Ork boys kit in the near future I will be very angry. I just finished assembling 40 of them. But I do hope we get new Lootaz, Burnaz, Tank Huntaz and we could really use a nice plastic weird boy.

[@komma8203]

I got 2 of the shadowspear boxes when they released them. Dont think i ever need more than those 6 suppressors

[@dwhisper79]

The only reason the old Ork Boyz kit is still around is likely that it has the Spanner arm in it for two of the loadout builds, and 1 Spanner is a required include for every 4 Lootas. Said arm isn't available in the Loota kit, which is just so, so stupid.

[@Beelzebufo_ampinga]

The Ork gretchin box is $21, and it comes with 11 minis. How is it not on here

[@pisuter3564]

Bread

[@that_punk_fairy]

Bread

[@sirbottomtext8413]

Bread

[@hectorsandoval7332]

Hi Jay! Could you please include the subtitles in Spanish?; I am starting in the world of WH 40k and I am very interested in your opinions. Thank you!

[@jazzydominion1411]

remember in the pox walkers box, you get a free half of a death guard?

[@goofiest_goober366]

4:50 i would agree that games workshop is much better than forgeworld but for it to be abolished all the forgeworld kits should be remastered to plastic

[@mightbeapersonmaybe8379]

With the leviathan dread moving to plastic that leaves only two models on the forgeworld range that I want, the terrax assault drill and the iron circle automata. God I want that drill

[@TheLemonFox]

I'm sure someone has said this, but the Royal Court is a single sprue, that's how it came in Indomitus so they actually can't break them up. I agree its awkward AF but that's why its like that.

[@timunderbakke8756]

I’ve honestly been thinking about buying the Blooded kill team just to make into better looking cultists for my thousand sons (who can’t yet take them as traitor guard like codex csm).

[@gregsmw]

look to the necromunda sets for cultists, theres load sof variety in necromunda gangs, meaning you can find one for basically any CSM asthetic, they have the right type of guns (autoguns and autopisto+melee) they look more rif raf then the more regimented and uniform ACTUAL cultists that gw makes, and (imo at least) they just look better necromunda gangs are great for cultists if i ever want some cultists i am 100% getting the new(ish) sand gang from necromunda also necromunda gang boxes are cheaper then most 40k ones for some reason, 10 troops in 40k will be £30-35, while 10 necromunda gangers is £25

[@joabthejavelin5119]

All is dust.

[@dustinmontgomery7063]

Looking forward to a Games Workshop Adeptas Sororitas body pillow.

[@Nigelius]

Forgeworld should really be for niche, limited run models. With HH 2.0 GW have proven that some smart design decisions allow them to make a lot of kits at lower costs (to them), allowing for less popular game systems getting great plastic kits.

[@tomkillilea6713]

Was wondering if you had any interest in doing a Lord of the Rings SBG video anytime soon??

[@U2QuoZepplin]

These new orcs /orks? do look kind of nice! Surpressors are kind of nice though. I might have to chop and paste some of these surpressors guys.

[@LazyLas]

I love the hybrid new guard models

[@ubermoose5694]

Hands down the best and worst manscaped ad I've ever seen. Fantastic.

[@MrDoozer001]

also the royal court sells at GW for £70... and was also in the imperium mag for £8.99

[@unrealassasination]

Why no AoS models?

[@mayofrench5170]

Space Marines: Honoured of the Chapter is in a similar place as the Necron Royal Court. Over-priced even by GW standards. There are enough of the models on the secondary market to impact sales. The Eradicators and Blade Guard vets are available separately. This effectively puts the Chaplain, Judiciar and BG Ancient behind a paywall for anyone who missed Indomitus.

[@ThePlayplay64]

I think they should bring indomitus back I wish every edition they do a big box like that at that price that is fairly generic stuff but a good deal on it. I also think it should stay around for the edition or most of it. They often do mono pose stuff and then full coolie kits to give us a massive bundle of mono pose.

[@GuthanSlayer]

now i just want some squats so i can trim them, the new ork boyz kit is a travesty honestly, i have no die idea what they were thinking.

[@DarkSoulsReject]

I actually have a leviathan dreadnought from forge world and I can confirm it was expensive as hell

[@jacobward6643]

Suppressors will probably be an optional build when they release the primaris assault squad

[@eicha41624]

As far as the primaris marines gun thing goes, I don't think anyone *really* cares what the model has, as long as you're consistent with what squad has what, rules-wise

[@U2QuoZepplin]

Sisters / Sororitas are the last army I have not yet tried collecting yet. And I really want to start a Sororitas Army. But then they droped Votan on us...... Specially old Squats Generals from the Rogue Trader / 1st edition days in the 1990s. Yeah I'm old...... Deal with it! 😡😁😂😂

[@owendumas7500]

i absolutely despise the chosen of mortarion box for death guard, i want to buy a bunch of malignant plague casters but i don’t want the noxious blight bringer or an extra plague marine. why none of these models are related to one another put them in their own boxes

[@DrunkenDeer]

Best kits you missed. Aleguzzler gargant. So many variants, so many extra scatter terrain like the gibbet, cow ect. Old Ork boyz: 11 minis with plenty of heavy weapons and can kitbash easy into painboys ect. Unlike it's poor counterpart.

[@TommyBuilt]

Pretty cool how something that doesn’t even spin can move at 7000 rotations per minute

[@GoatTheGoat]

0:55 Nope. I don't like multipose plastic.

[@jontheisen5470]

I was disappointed to find out the battle sisters box doesn't come with any multimeltas, which I don't understand bc they can be equipped with them. Why not include all the options.

[@zacharystitt3992]

The only thing I hate about the Redemptor Dreadnaught is how square it is.

[@scryptogram5686]

im *fairly* certain that the skorpekh lord was available separately for a bit but i might be hallucinating

[@mandyd9681]

Cryptothralls were good for protecting crypteks, but they changed the rules and that no longer works as well so they arent as useful, they are ok in melee if they are near a cryptek, they get +3 BS/WS and 6 attacks each so 12 Strength 5 attacks at AP -1 which isnt as good vs AoC units.