5 Bombshells Revealed in Gilgo Beach Murders Case by Victims' Family Attorney

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Attorney John Ray represents some of the families of victims found on Long Island's Gilgo Beach and also represents the family of Shannan Gilbert. The search for Gilbert led to the discovery of the "Gilgo Four." Ray held a forum Monday in which he revealed new information about Rex Heuermann, the man charged in the murders of the Gilgo Four, along with information about the investigation into Gilbert's death. Law&Crime's Angenette Levy has 5 bombshell revelations from the event in this episode of Crime Fix - a daily show covering the biggest stories in crime.
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[@gmimi2]

You going to show all the bad cops as well or just going to show copganda? 🙄.

[@Fee212]

I don't believe her. She comes across like that guy who told police that he had an affair with the murderer Chris Watts. He was lying too

[@maurad5378]

Justice for Shannan Gilbert.

[@louisejeffries7155]

Amen to that And all the other souls taken

[@tamtam777]

I believe she was murdered, and that there are several men involved, a cult.

[@kerrysilverthorn6513]

this case shook me , justice for sure no more shaming the victim !!!

[@jamesdolan4042]

That phone call she made to the police was so haunting. I felt she was so helpless and isolated. I concur justice for Shannan Gilbert.

[@DarnellHorton-ze7yh]

The entire police department and DAs need to be on trial along side John

[@bewitched3912]

I fully agree 👍

[@SueP-jg9vx]

this is the problem when no one watches the watchers. so much corruption. disgusting. I love this lawyer. He should be made police chief himself

[@louisejeffries7155]

Why should Mr Ray be on trial? He’s amazing Do you mean along side Rex?

[@CC-xu2yz]

@@louisejeffries7155 No. Are you paying attention?

[@louisejeffries7155]

@@CC-xu2yzwhat do you mean pay attention The comment says John Ray should be on trial along side the others Read what’s written rather than telling me to pay attention You’re to quick to criticise

[@MarianneOz]

John Ray is a warrior! Thank goodness these families have him as their advocate. He should be awarded some recognition when this is all over.

[@SueP-jg9vx]

i hope he runs for public office.

[@truecrimeLI]

Agreed.

[@michelleg4069]

John Ray is a trooper! Thank you, Mr. Ray for not letting Shannon’s case get brushed under the rug!!! ❤️

[@deeremeyer1749]

Heuerman is not charged with the deaths of the "victims and families" he claims to "represent".

[@hill9948]

In my opinion, the police department should be independently investigated for their mishandling of these cases. They have covered up their misdeeds. Are they involved? Profiting off prostitution, drugs and murders?! I wouldn’t be surprised if we uncover more cases of misconduct among this police force in the future.

[@EM.1.]

Yes, I think they all are involved in this.

[@bewitched3912]

Yes, they are guilty in my opinion

[@toriladybird511]

The reason why Rex got caught is because of the corruption of the police force. When that got exposed and new people got involved is how he got caught. I agree the corruption still must exist. But with public questions and John Ray as odd as I find him those answers and justice might come.

[@kingjoseph5901]

They couldve been involved

[@CC-xu2yz]

Some of them, at the highest levels, like James Burke, were involved with RH in these crimes.

[@stephenn8366]

At the end of this investigation, Mr. Ray will stand among the heroes of this case.

[@moda78z]

I don’t trust him. I don’t know why. He just wants attention.

[@bec630]

He’s a joke

[@hsk2909]

He already is,

[@lealovesthesea]

Amen

[@lealovesthesea]

@@bec630look in the mirror

[@missinginbc]

Your video is great, but get rid of the transition that crackles, it hurts the ears and it's silly

[@niahoward1920]

YES. AND YES!!! It’s very annoying and unsettling!

[@OK-nyymi]

Yes. It may even trigger a migraine attack.

[@Ombrophobic]

Grow a pair cry baby

[@dannyDanDanDanTwo]

Hotel Manager here. People very often check in under their spouse’s name. It’s certainly a good idea to check in other someone else’s name if you don’t want a record of your name showing up or if you want to be able to say the reason for you staying is with family and not to be meeting a prostitute.

[@Fee212]

That makes sense.

[@kiryuchan860]

I have to show federal photo identification for every check in I've ever made.

[@fartemisfartmallow8647]

@@kiryuchan860that’s what I was thinking too

[@RicheeBe]

Don’t work like that in major cities

[@dannyDanDanDanTwo]

@@RicheeBe that’s fair. I work in the area of disney world but I am sure in large cities like NY, LV, etc where the clientele is more Everyman for themselves, the rules are more strict.

[@delsi1204]

RIP Shannon Gilbert 🕯️🕯️ And thank you Mister Ray for keeping the investigation alive for more than 10 years. 🙏

[@alimeldes]

I think Asa knows and possibly helped in some way

[@avalondreaming1433]

I think so too!

[@Stiflers__Mom]

I agree!

[@smiley2477]

She helped by taking the kids away so the murder could play with his victims.

[@vida3814]

​​@@smiley2477 this is more possible in my opinion, if he has taken tools from the house it could contain her dna

[@LOOOVEIT]

Definitely

[@Glocks.Scotch.and.Wristwatch]

John Ray was on an episode of the Surviving the Survivor KZbin show. After watching that episode, my whole opinion of him changed. I think he’s legit and he 100% cares.

[@kyled2329]

I never believed the wife.

[@hsk2909]

Then there's two of us..

[@niahoward1920]

I believe that the wife, at the least, was aware of her serial killer husband’s evil deeds!

[@smiley2477]

Same I don’t think she participated but very willing to get kids out of the house so he could kill.

[@nastynate2379]

@@smiley2477lol SADISTIC AF

[@SueP-jg9vx]

i am starting to think this too. Too bad people can't take back donations made to her but I suppose it will help his kids

[@gmimi2]

🙄 wow.

[@rayray8687]

@@smiley2477: That sounds like participation to me.

[@cinziamargaretti]

So glad you are covering! The sound wasn't great in original format. Very very interesting stuff indeed!!! Dont think Asa is totally innocent! No way!

[@brendoncassidy1316]

Maybe so but don’t accuse the spouse unless you have compelling evidence Ray doesn’t have it And it’s irresponsible

[@iMakePlaylists365]

The hotel manager gave out that sensitive info? The total amount was $30-something, for ~6 days?

[@hsk2909]

It must have meant per day, i'd figure..It's just not possible otherwise.

[@user-cc8ht3im4h]

It is per night , not a total amount .

[@queensade1560]

I think him and his wife were definitely involved in the swinger scene and allegedly there were police that would attend too

[@Ombrophobic]

Yep 100 % and his wife had a hand in this crime mark my words

[@CashCowz962]

Yes ......and I heard rumors about some cops doing this well in my city....

[@hsk2909]

.. yup..WHEN did they die? WHere and how ..time and date?? WHere was she REALLY and what did she do where she was??

[@KindraShalynnHaimberger]

How does someone get a room for 6 nights for only $37.45? I've spent more money on actual cardboard boxes. 😮

[@toriladybird511]

Remember it was likely a budget hotel and a good while ago we see these victims as fresh but unfortunately the monster who stole their lives did it a long time ago

[@biancamaclean4794]

Even back in the 90's a cheap motel room was over $38 a night. It's not referring to 20's great depression era rates. 😂

[@wolfpecker5710]

It’s Atlantic City, they practically pay you to come there 😂🤷‍♂️

[@KindraShalynnHaimberger]

@toriladybird511 John literally said, as did the bank statement, that "they" stayed at the flagship hotel in Atlantic city. A simple google search will tell you that only a shareholder/time share owner, you weren't getting a room on the boardwalk for less than $38 per night... the key here being PER NIGHT. John said the total for their 6 night stay was $37.45. I was mearly mentioning that something doesn't sound right as the math isn't mathing. However, don't get me twisted. It breaks my heart that there are even families torn apart by the works of LISK. I would never take that lightly. They were people who had loved ones... even had they not had loved ones, NO BODY has ANY right to take their lives. Period.

[@mellycone5317]

It was per night charge not the total cost

[@lorrainelaneres-zh1ut]

We need to get justice for Shannan Gilbert🙏🙏🙏can’t believe they didn’t treat her death as a homicide after listening to those calls 😢 she kept telling the caller” they’re trying to kill me” Then she’s found 18 or so months later dead💔I’m think for this cover up that there were corrupt police involved😡 May Shannon Gilbert rest in peace and her poor family get the justice they deserve 🙏🙏🙏

[@jacksmith8002]

what hotel has records from 2007 ??

[@trendtalklive]

Digital records take up no space.

[@YouAreGoingToLoseMe87]

You'd be surprised

[@kimberlyfrey8740]

Well the charge amount for a hotel seems low so i question that statement. I hope he has a signed affidavit

[@brookesoloman1710]

Not low in 2007

[@rachelwyatt9529]

Not in 2007 and it’s Atlantic City

[@phoenixmerridian9119]

@@rachelwyatt9529 for 6 days tho? everyone would be staying in that motel instead of renting

[@ItsB3enLikeThis]

​@@brookesoloman1710$37 is still extremely low for 6 nights at a Hotel in 2007.

[@brown_eyed_girl]

Where was the bombshell information? Didn’t hear anything shocking in this story and very little is new info 😡

[@tanjameijer589]

Indeed 💯

[@brendoncassidy1316]

Zero Point Zero This guy just trying to wring some more juice out of this Saga for his own gain

[@RandomBogey]

8:10 Does it really take three people to hold the paper?

[@rachelwyatt9529]

They are clearly supporting her.. she is nervous

[@cynthiaconnors183]

She's rightfully nervous. Also, the support could be there because she might be shakey. Perhaps she has a health condition and requires some physical assistance to get through this.

[@Trev99999]

The lawyer is simply raising the issue that the police did not investigate correctly. It naturally follows that every step, including potential suspects (Asa and her daughter, her daughter being highly unlikely) requires further investigation. Whether you like him or not, what he is doing will shine a light on every aspect of these cases. I think that is positive.

[@milayalyuda1]

The wife definitely new something

[@Ombrophobic]

100 % they were swingers and weirdos she definitely had a hand in it

[@Morticia1313]

I agree with John Ray. They had just arrested RH & before you knew it they already ruled out the rest of the family. How did they do that so quickly! This witness is very believable.

[@Stroopwaffe1]

Because they were investigating the crime for years before the arrest.

[@russellbeaty7538]

The one reading from a script. Yeah she's believable😂

[@RicheeBe]

@@Stroopwaffe1no they were not 😂 where have you been ?? This investigation started two years ago even though the bodies were found 2013

[@debbiecarroll5672]

I was at this symposium..unbelievable..

[@alexpriedite1447]

Thank you for getting to the truth and giving these young women the justice they so rightfully deserve.

[@diydame7163]

Having seen additional videos about this case, they let one of those women basically go to her death. She called 911 multiple times (others called 911 multiple times on her behalf also) and no one was sent to help her. And all these murders happened under their noses. That department really was not working to protect the community.

[@pdxoneway]

Hate to say this cause of the whole "don't judge a book by its cover" thing but if there was someone who looked like a serial killer ,it's this guy.

[@DodongoManoof]

Cringe

[@billiebob6111]

Keep at it Ray!! I know LI all too well. The corruption of this case is evident!

[@agev8016]

I am so happy you are covering all sides to this case. I will not and never watch the peacock documentary that Asa is getting paid for. So disgusting and poor taste . She is profiting off of dead people whether she was involved or not. I still feel there is division within this case. I know Rodney "retired" but I wonder if there were issues with work with district Ray Tierney. Im sorry he comes off as a cheesy car salesmen and has incentives for ruling out Asa so quickly. I never have seen in any case where a spouse was ruled out immediately and they haven't gone through all the evidence yet. I mean you see all these crime shows where the spouse talks about being investigated at length for months even years by the police and investigators. I really hope she didn't make a secret deal with the system like Karla Homolka did. I am not saying she is guilty or innocent, I just want the receipts aka the evidence of proof of how a spouse could be ruled out so quickly in such a massive case.

[@gmimi2]

What documentary are you referring too?

[@mortsnerd6053]

Between the media and the lawyers ,we will never know the truth.

[@smiley2477]

I don’t think it’s fair to blame the daughter. He probably slept with the women in his wife and daughter’s bed. That would explain the hair. I find that irresponsible to blame the daughter. But I do think Asa knows more than she says. She can’t be that deaf and blind to not see clues. I do think Rex tortured these women and probably kept them alive before killing them. So I don’t understand how Asa is cleared so easily. Maybe she didn’t participate since she appeared to take the kids away but I think she knew and was protecting the kids. But knowing and turning her head is guilt. Not as bad as participating but it’s still a crime.

[@wolfpecker5710]

Yeah, especially cause they said the hair was from when she was a child. Like how much involvement could she have possibly had! I agree on the wife though, something just seems fishy about her 🤷‍♂️

[@tonifitz6831]

These need to speak to R.W.

[@brianhardgrave8709]

Is there a way to watch yesterdays video of John Ray, supplying evidence

[@brendoncassidy1316]

No He doesn’t have any He has a barely coherent woman’s recount of seeing Asa at an orgy 30 years ago That is what it is: evidence of nothing. Coming from a fairly incredible witness

[@audreydaleski1067]

He's taking all day to say

[@Neddsaidd]

Do not PAY HER for an interview!!! 😡😡😡😡 SO UNETHICAL!

[@moomyung9231]

A child was not involved in murdering a prostitute. That's just ridiculous and he's trying to get attention with wild and salacious claims.

[@karenmorente7589]

God bless the victims and all who loved them.

[@michellejarrett1826]

His wife is involved!!!

[@r.williamcomm7693]

So they probably get a hotel manager fired & they’re angry that one victim is listed as a homicide?

[@marianneknapp4846]

Love you Attorney Ray Thank you for all your hard workThanks for Caring and Loving ✝️🙏💜🕊️🕯️

[@LLthereistome2024]

The hotel info should be in paper, a copy of it anyway.

[@freefallin4693]

I’m a huge JR fan now👍

[@michaelbartley9572]

So Shannon Gilbert an escort like the other victims meets up with someone freaks out and said someone trying to kill her and just so happens to run and hide in a spot where the bodies of other escorts just happened to be and somehow just died. No they followed her,found her and rex nd his accomplice talked her into or forced her to come with them and killed her. I've always suspected his wife.

[@blastypowpow]

Shannan’s sister had schizophrenia and murdered their mother during an episode. Schizophrenia is genetic. If someone was out to kill Shannan that night, why couldn’t she vocalize who it was? That’s why I lean towards it being a coincidence. I don’t think Shannan was a victim. I could be wrong, but she sounds like a schizophrenic hallucinating in those 911 calls.

[@ronitsharma9807]

Am I the only one who first read it as Gigolo beach? 😆

[@deeremeyer1749]

6 days at a "flagship hotel" for $37 and change. Yeah. Sounds like a legit "record".

[@Gram72534]

Did he say a flagship hotel charged them $37.00 for a 6 night stay? If so that's one cheap hotel, that or he is full of Ssss.?.??.?

[@barbarahendryx809]

Maybe kids stayed free. Maybe discount for extended stay.

[@sweetsongstress7398]

That’s one helluva discount

[@toriladybird511]

Rexroth could have gotten business rates, used air miles to cover the extra

[@deeremeyer1749]

That's what was said to him "on the record". He just can't produce "the record".

[@laurenkillough4273]

I really feel like she's involved, maybe not all but some. Thank you Mr. Raay for not giving up on these ladies.

[@cayad2591]

Yes, please stop using that static noise.

[@AndrewNelson-rg9tg]

This cas e is going to be HUGE

[@kingelvis5502]

6:31 where did they dig up this gem?

[@Floridaman1780_]

This guy is throwing shade at the investigation so they keep digging and find out what happened to his clients daughter. This isn't news, he's doing his job.

[@lelandfitz1762]

Hair of a child makes her suspicious...yes sure. Also: What is more reliable: Credit Card Data or some info a lawyer got over the phone from a hotel manager?

[@2msvalkyrie529]

Yeah but ....he " befriended " the manager over the phone .! So it must be true.!!

[@tonyr669]

5 days $37.47 I don’t even know what this guy is thinking or talking about

[@chrisiman-ro2wt]

Gilbert’s death was highly unlikely due to an accident. Not because I would like it to have been a homicide.. But because the evidence is highly suggestive of this having been the case.

[@roaner4313]

RW? Isn’t that the initials on the belt?

[@marleenneil7542]

How does a sicko like this escape arrest for so long?

[@janeferguson4455]

you all need to get a grip if you think we are going to PAY for your trial coverage. Get over it !

[@kimturner2105]

So ASA paid on cc in advance of her stay?

[@toolsdealsautomobiles6980]

So is the attorney saying the wife and kids are in on the brutal killings of these women

[@Just_Peachy8777]

Hes trying to, but LE has proof they were on vacations away when the murders happend. They even had cameras on a pole out front of their house

[@WoodlandT]

He’s saying they shouldn’t be ruled out yet

[@letitbesummer6536]

Imagine what that daughter is going through. Hairs fall all over the place and get reattached to everything. Leave the daughter alone

[@cynthiaconnors183]

Could be the wife was involved but the child was present

[@Ombrophobic]

@@cynthiaconnors183the “child “ is an adult and if she was present and suspected her parents were killing women she is guilty

[@eden_aumakua]

🌌🌠💗 Shannan Gilbert 💗🌠🌌

[@kathys1285]

You know it makes me so sick that they are putting the cereal killer on ONE WOMAN!!!! Like seriously what about the other what five seven (I lost count) women he killed don’t just put one woman on him they better count the other too unbelievable 🤬🙄

[@cynthiaconnors183]

They'll go through the case victim by victim. One at a time. Not all at once.

[@blastypowpow]

It’s serial killer. Cereal killer means someone is killing a cereal bowl. Just made me chuckle. 🤭

[@heygusgus]

I really wanted to watch this but for some reason the voiceover/ “journalist” in this gives me an instant headache and is wayyy too high pitched and whiny for this 😢

[@ellerose007]

Fred & Rose West vibes...

[@Ombrophobic]

Yep this 100 %

[@mindymorgan8479]

Do these police officers even hear themselves? Wow.

[@wesb123]

Not 1 word from Ray or the mystery witness is evidence to a crime.

[@angieoverlin272]

Wait.. he's already at trial?

[@madidiamondhands]

I think Asa was involved in more than they want us to believe. She was involved in the swinging first of all. She could have helped with the rest then intentionally left to have record of not being there in case he got caught. It's too much of a coincidence to me that she left every single time he ended their lives. Seems planned.

[@fredricksmith-something.2125]

He could have used the Credit Card. For a credit card stay?

[@alexistrebexis3195]

This guy is a shyster. This lawyer.

[@lealovesthesea]

All this is believable however the daughter is a bridge to Farr. 😊

[@smiley2477]

I agree

[@cynthiaconnors183]

I don't think he's accusing the daughter, just showing she may have been present.

[@Ombrophobic]

@@cynthiaconnors183if she was present during the crimes and didn’t report it.. and suspected her father (and mother ) were killers than she is just as bad as the parents.

[@dorothymccusker5333]

Sounds to me you should take a very,very deep look into the police.

[@AustinD1993]

Why is John saying that Asa & Her Children weren't in Atlantic City? There were reciepts from the whole week from the credit card 😂

[@2msvalkyrie529]

Why ?? These slimey creeps will say anything for 5 minutes of media exposure . A combination of Greed and Ego ?!

[@katieeebarberella8546]

37 bucks is cheap for 4 to 5 nights accommodation. Make it believable at least

[@2msvalkyrie529]

He " befriended " the manager over the phone ? Followed by ". IF this is true ...? " So he doesn't actually know ! Ray is just another scavenger trying to cash in on other 's misery .! We all know how slimey lawyers are but this is a new low .

[@mattprince9204]

Why give credence to specious allegations by a lawyer who has a financial interest and bias in the case? Ratings, maybe? This is not criminal analysis; it’s speculative red meat

[@trendtalklive]

John Ray is not being paid 1 cent for his work.

[@Epic-Gamer50]

@@trendtalkliveexactly. It’s his job. Again, even the allegedly guilty deserve representation and defense, it is the foundation of the freedoms that make this country what it is. So that we don’t put the innocent in prison

[@JonathanERubin]

@@trendtalklive Actually, he’s the plaintiff’s attorney in a wrongful death lawsuit, and by state law he gets one-third of anything that the plaintiff is awarded. So yes, he stands to benefit financially from finding Shannan’s killer.

[@RGordon-pl3ck]

And will write a book...

[@laffytaffy2916]

They have really messed up this case, to me it seemed very clean, but it’s like they ran to the press wanting to say SOLVED! Yes I’m certain he did it, but all those T’s needed to be crossed and i’s dotted! I always look back on this case so sad that she was SO CLOSE TO FREEDOM, to being saved, and it breaks my heart, she was terrified. I also like everyone else am perplexed, this guy had a sweet job in Manhattan, an architect I think? All the houses around his are well looked after, and his is a total crap hole. I’ve never known an architect who didn’t keep their house impressive.

[@lotstodo]

I thought they found 9 bodies.

[@michelebella677]

John Rey really needs to stop messing around with these ridiculous theories. The daughter was a child, but he’s saying that she should be looked at like a suspect? This guy has always wanted attention from the moment he got involved with the case.

[@newlivingnews]

Did it ever occur to Ray that Rex could have taken Asa’s hair from her brush and planted it on his victims? Asa was afraid of Rex and perhaps wasn’t into a swinger lifestyle but he forced on her.

[@UFCtrumpsboxing]

get to the effing point, geez, are you a lawyer? what a contradiction too much suspense

[@Imleona]

❤ John Ray . He changed his look but he great either way💥

[@pernelltoday1381]

A third autopsy found suicide..a fourth..a fall from heights..a fifth..she drowned

[@vickilawrence7207]

Oh wow! It would be easy for their hair to be picked up on him, the defendant, and transferred to whatever he used to wrap his victims in. Especially when you get older your hair falls out so much more and I know that my daughter has found my hair in things that I have sent to her from my house!

[@nicbro3831]

Okay just a thought: why did the woman who allegedly was swinging with rex and asa have to read a statement about an experience that allegedly happened to her, to the point where she even waited for the page to turn? I dont buy it. Hes going to be found guilty. Also, the department does need to be investigated because of their mishandling of this case.

[@niahoward1920]

People get nervous, and she was probably advised to be concise, and precise to the best of her ability, and not to ramble. Having a written statement would been the best thing to have. And if you don’t know an evil, serial killer by the look in his eyes, if you look at this man and you think that he could possibly be innocent, then your Spidey senses aren’t working.

[@BreakfastatTuscanys]

Also she claimed she never went downstairs 🧐 then how did she enter the house??? 🙄

[@lylafournier-mm5th]

There are more victims bodies out there

[@kingelvis5502]

10:11 - not letterhead? 10:38 - so colletti is apart of the cabal?

[@thomasl4665]

Let's see what the FBI says.

[@smg7187]

Very credible to read what happend to you🤦‍♂️

[@user-wx6vy8el3i]

Hope they don't let the guy out he'd definitely would kill again. Corruption in the police? Wow. Did they work together, they knew something 🤔

[@josuedavid3786]

So nothing new

[@belovedshername]

I don’t know. I think the wife was in on this too. She knew and tuned a blind eye. That’s just my theory!

[@faithhupy4983]

And why their hair on the stuff and not his

[@RicheeBe]

Make sense about the convo with the wife -and the swinger . Tryna brag as a foreigner about how she’s rich and rex blah blah blah . And she was pregnant

[@catserver8577]

If Shannan Gilbert's death was an accident, I'm an heir to the British throne. (hint, I'm not).

[@robovereem7767]

It is all soo fake from both sides ,they really all do this for viiews it is a pr stunt and this all so theycan earn money off children because only they watch such content shame on u Ace people. Sorry for my bad english ❤from Holland Atozy😂😂

[@2msvalkyrie529]

For so called lawyers like HIM it's all Showbiz . The idea that he " cares " about his clients is a sick joke. It's all about media exposure and his Ego !

[@jacekpaszkowski2000]

So if the daughter Victoria is 26 years of age now and these murders took place 14 or 15 years ago, that would've made the daughter 11 or 12 years old. So this attorney for the victims is saying the daughter participated in these sadistic homicides with her mother? I know there's killer kids out there but this is some next level psycho killer deviance.