Been working with/on Corvair boxer engines most of my life, as my mother owned a '64 turbocharged Corvair (badged as a Spyder). She loved that car and would tell anyone that asked she could take any Vette that tried her. lol She really enjoyed driving tha Corvair and got into Rallye racing and lucky me got to be her co-pilot/map reader. She did quite well, winning or placing in every event she drove in. I was always so proud to tell everyone that was my mother. I now own a '65 Corvair w/ one of the 140 HP engines that I've over-built for longevity. It has a roller valve train and the engine has been completely massaged (chamfering all edges and oil return passages, etc.) and fully balanced, both statically and dynamically, w/ all rod beams and crank throws being de-burred and polished and all rod/piston assemblies being weighed to within 0.1g. Haven't had it on any dyno, but at ~ 10:1 CR and a maxed out bore, I am certain its putting out an easy 180-200 HP, redlining at 8K RPMs. Although I feel confident I could turn it much faster, I am looking at longevity vs performance. As much as I would love to get into flying, especially w/ a Corvair engine, I just can't afford the cost of an airframe to attach it to, as a fixed-income person. So, I'll just drive the wheels off my convertible Corvair and consider myself blessed.
@NoosaHeads5 жыл бұрын
My experience is that a well set up and well maintained US V8 will give extremely good service. Addition security things like dual ignition and a good "limp home" mode would make these engines almost as reliable as a Lycoming. Having said all that, if the main factor is reliability, Lycoming are impossible to beat (albeit at a very high price).
@MartinSage2 жыл бұрын
Wow, 130hp for $11,000. And this is a reliable, new Honda engine
@dknowles60 Жыл бұрын
better then Lycoming
@pabloricardodetarragon2649 Жыл бұрын
The Lycoming are of very old technology and not specially reliable (crankshaft torsional problems...) compared to car and motorcycles engines which can do between 1500 (like a 70 hp 600 cc CBF Honda redline 10000 RPM) and 3000 hours ( most Honda cars) before TBO.
@cornelsmit44744 ай бұрын
What about take a Toyota Land Cruiser Engine or will that be to heavy/big ? 😅🤣
@dovetailup89165 жыл бұрын
Flew my Chevy to the Levee...
@jeffmiller31505 жыл бұрын
Then it quit running and I crashed!!
@hrbestalkinme36905 жыл бұрын
@@jeffmiller3150 Those LS engines are probably the most durable engines money can buy, especially in their power range, and super ESPECIALLY for the price
@michaelratliff77755 жыл бұрын
Underated comment' I loved it!!! KUDOS!!! CHEVY TO THE LEVEE!
@hrbestalkinme36905 жыл бұрын
Jeff Miller See any modern ford or Dodge engines on this list? If they are so good, I'd love to see which planes use them. Or boat engines? Or Generators? Didn't think so. Chevy has the strongest V8 if the past 2 decades.
@awesomebush87115 жыл бұрын
but the levee was dry.
@brandonblair68685 жыл бұрын
An LS3, full of accessories is about 420-410lbs. They are incredibly light and compact relative to the engine displacement.
@roybaker69025 жыл бұрын
And if it breaks in mid-flight just glide to the nearest Chevy dealership.
@wealthintruth62273 жыл бұрын
@@roybaker6902 Just don’t taxi next to the Bolt; it tends to spontaneously catch fire
@GripItNRipIt822 ай бұрын
You’ll find on this channel he actually knows very little about aviation products and simply guesses. He is the wikipedia king..
@NearlyNativeNursery5 жыл бұрын
Super video on this subject of auto engine for smaller planes. Diffidently the only way to go if you are on a budget, want a more reliable engine, want a quieter power plant, want to work on your engine yourself or want to lower fuel cost and consumption. there is absolutely to my knowledge any reason to want a certified aircraft manufacturers engine at the cost they offer them.and their lack of running hours before total over haul. My personal dream plane at this moment is the Just Aircraft Highlander with STOL conversion add ons with the Viking 180 Turbo.
@SUPERSHANE955 жыл бұрын
It is hard to beat a LS3. Power and reliability.
@carsplease5 жыл бұрын
Man your videos are exactly what I was looking for, super informative, thoroughly researched, and you even leave the source company info in the video to research further. Great channel!
@andrewarmstrong73105 жыл бұрын
Every time the debate about auto engine vs aircraft engine comes up among friends I dig my old B&W photos out and pull up the picture of my dad in his 1929 Pietenpol Air Camper with Ford Model A engine complete with a radiator standing lengthwise on the cowl, doing a low slow flyby of a very desolate, at that time, Loves field, Dallas, TX.
@izzyplusplusplus10045 жыл бұрын
2 engines that are some of my favorite car engines in here. K20 Honda, and LS3 Chevy.
@SteampunkVaporyLounge5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos kid. It's fun we get to see you more now. Was kind of surprised to see no Subaru based engines.
@brentboswell12945 жыл бұрын
Surprised no Subaru engines made this list...they were all the rage about 10 years ago. Flat config (just like most aviation engines). The complication was adding radiators...
@Bartonovich525 жыл бұрын
Completely wrong engine for aircraft other than being flat. High revving meaning it needs a gearbox and destructive revs to make power (aircraft engines are designed to spend hours at top revs, not seconds). Overhead cams which add weight, bulk, and complexity. Liquid cooled which adds weight and another failure mode (especially with Subaru head gaskets). No individually removable cylinders which means you have to take an entire side of the engine off to do any top end work. Etc etc etc. .
@brunoraoni5 жыл бұрын
I think i heard somewhere that the Wankel engines used in Mazda's are quite good as an airplane engine, is that true:
@Wildcat51815 жыл бұрын
@@Bartonovich52 Mo t four cylinder aircraft engines spend their lives at around 2400 RPM.
@james86625 жыл бұрын
massive fuel consumption
@chucklucas87475 жыл бұрын
You are right the boxer should do great in them
@junkerju585 жыл бұрын
I owned a 64 Chevy Corvair, Monza with 4spd man transmission. At 35k mi it started to leak oil like a quart every 2 weeks. The engine was like a VW, air-cooled but has 6 cylinders flat horizontally opposed. I used the car in tropical climate. The engine would keep sputtering even if the ignition is off after a long trip or was used in heavy traffic. The mechanic told me it was due to overheating.
@martinnorbeck59615 жыл бұрын
Your mechanic was right. The combustion temps would skyrocket when you shut engine off. Fuel vapors from carb would cause engine to go clunk clunk chug chug cough pfff.......
@gemanscombe49855 жыл бұрын
Run-on was caused by hot spots in the combustion chamber, like carbon or sharp metal edges, acting as glow-plugs after the ignition was switched off. It was common in late '70s carburated cars that had retarded spark timing for emissions reasons. The engines were running backwards at shutdown.
@gemanscombe49855 жыл бұрын
@Jasaemer Tsun Yes, "dieseling" was the common term. Also "run-on". Retarded ignition timing was the engineers' quick fix to pass smog requirements but maintaining a decent idle speed then meant opening the throttle plates more. There were 2 ways they fixed the resulting dieseling. 1st was an idle speed solenoid that held the throttle open while idling and let them snap shut when the key was switched to "OFF". 2nd was an "anti-dieseling solenoid" that let a spring-loaded needle valve block the idle fuel circuit when the key was turned to "OFF", but held it back magnetically with the solenoid energized. When the solenoid failed, the engine wouldn't idle until you removed the needle and re-installed the solenoid without it. Then the car would idle fine and maybe diesel again. This was carburetors before full computer controls. There's a reason why fuel injection took over - carbs were getting stupidly complicated. Overhauling a Honda 3 barrel CVCC carb was best done in a soda box on the floor.
@toadman5064 жыл бұрын
The Corvair conversions run pretty well as Aircraft Engines, In reality the only "Car Stock" parts are things like the Case itself, and the Pistons..the Heads, Crankshaft, Camshaft and the like are usually altered. Plus the way Aircraft cowlings are designed, with the right Baffling you end up running cooler than the engines did in the cars. Building it yourself using parts from SPA, or William Wynne, or Both. Most of the other Car Engines, make me nervous to be honest, they increase complexity with Radiators and Cooling, Plus the necessary Gearbox to pull the Prop RPM down to usable numbers. That said, "Experimental" aviation is named that for a reason, and the reality is, there hasn't been a lot of Innovation in the GA Certified realm in a long time when it comes to powerplants, between the exhaustive certification process, and the HUGE issue of potential Liability and the crushing Insurance Premiums that comes with that...which is WHY Certified engines are Double to Triple the price of "Experimental" engines, even though the sole difference is a "Certified" Stamp.
@markgravatt53359 ай бұрын
@@toadman506 Agreed! Following the one company that has been doing the Corvair Conversion for 30+ years is the intelligent path. (They have 30 yrs of careful & documented research by an A&P/IA, advancements that are flight proven, not a "bells & whistles" sales pitch.) Did you see the review video after demo flight where the guy's ignition wire disconnected in flight? Hmmm, no thx. Does anyone else remember when people went on and on about Subaru engines? Yet how many are flying now, and why did their support evaporate? Newcomers really need to do their homework to get beyond the sales pitch. Sadly, if they rush into decision, it may cost them more than just an engine.
@orbitalair21035 жыл бұрын
The basic Aerovee 80hp can be bought as a kit, for gearheads like me, thats cool. Some assembly required.
@wholeNwon5 жыл бұрын
The Lexus UZ series aluminum V8 automobile engine is the basis of the FAA-certified FV2400-2TC
@harleyme31634 жыл бұрын
only problem with car engine's, no dry sump, if you bank even 45 degree's the engine will not pump oil into the parts needed and probably fail a lot sooner then if it was in the position it was made for. ah what we dont know can in fact kill us.
@Kawka11224 жыл бұрын
@@harleyme3163 is it possible to modify oil distribution than? Maybe modify oil tank outlet to pump? I'm genuinely curious if it is possible on already casted engine block
@rochboulanger65654 жыл бұрын
@@harleyme3163 During a standard co-ordinated turn, you would actually be dead wrong. The use of rudder and elevator make the G-force pull at 90 degrees relative to the wings. This is why Nascar tracks lean in corners and it's also why you don't fall toward the window of an airplane while it's banking for a turn. The only time your theory would be true is while an aicraft is "slipping" as an attempt to blead excess altitude before landing. This only lasts a couple seconds and is no different than a sports car staying flat while going quicly around a corner, pushing you (and its engine oil) to one side.
@Patchuchan4 жыл бұрын
@@harleyme3163 They can be modified to have a dry sump though not all certified aircraft engine have a dry sump as it's typically only needed on fully aerobatic planes they may experience prolonged negative g or radials as there's no place for a large sump.
@TTURBOVOLVO4 жыл бұрын
On racecars it's fairly common to run a drysump system. I'm sure there are multiple options available for the LS since its a very popular engine.
@ericknavas215 жыл бұрын
Love your videos I always learn something new
@wildcoyote345 жыл бұрын
very interesting , i know something about airplane engines but i did not realize all of the different automotive engines they were using in aircraft now ,i do like the idea of using Auto fuel rather than Avgas for a huge cost savings on operations
@valuedhumanoid65745 жыл бұрын
I have a coworker who took a Perkins 2.2L three cylinder diesel from a generator set and used it to power his home built ultralight. It is putting out just over 100 hp and is damn near indestructible
@mofayer2 жыл бұрын
I doubt that it's still an ultralight with that diesel iron block. But def reliable.
@eugeneoreilly9356 Жыл бұрын
And iron head.A great industrial engine but never heard of them used for aviation as they would be relatively heavy.
@valuedhumanoid6574 Жыл бұрын
@@eugeneoreilly9356 It's very heavy. And he can't run it over 5000 feet because the air gets thinner and it starts running too lean. He has replaced it since I made this comment. He now has an Isuzu 4 cylinder. No idea what it came out of.
@orneryokinawan45293 жыл бұрын
This is interesting. I work at Subaru and we make our own Huey variants with Bell for export including Fuji trainer aircraft, and numerous subcontracting with Boeing and other like minded industries.
@geronimo55375 жыл бұрын
Our modern gas and diesel car/vehicle engines are built using lessons and methods learned from aircraft of WW2. The automotive industries worldwide looked at WW2 planes for decades to transfer design and performance improvements into automobiles. Superchargers, turbos, fuel injection, and Methanol fuel are just a few examples out of many more. These engines are aircraft engines and they have been near perfected! Modern "aircraft" prop engines are just eco engines condensed into a small light frame for space and fuel efficiency. Then because they are built for a niche design the manufactures slap a premium price tag on such lawn mower engines they sell. So know your history everyone and don't just fall for what some salesman tries to shell out because their company built it cheap for high profit in a niche market. So great video as always Mojo! Love your content.
@jamesmorett61845 жыл бұрын
But what about cooling? Antifreeze? It gets REALLY cold up there, i didn't know my lawnmower could take off and fly!
@FredsRandomFinds4 жыл бұрын
Are they Dry Sumping these engines? Otherwise what are they doing to stop oil starvation during high G manoeuvres? As baffling the sump alone surely isn't enough?
@PistonAvatarGuy5 жыл бұрын
Limbach Flugmotoren also does VW conversions, but they're available with liquid cooled heads. They look like very nicely made engines.
@andreleonard47545 жыл бұрын
Well done Mike, excellent video. I learned a lot, thanks.
@borisbetkin98275 жыл бұрын
would you briefly go indepth explain autoconversion engine: what stays, gets out, modified, etc?
@47EZ_DRIVER5 жыл бұрын
lol he's not a technician
@PistonAvatarGuy5 жыл бұрын
@iBiana Doubt Most don't have dual ignition and don't need it, because direct, electronic ignition systems are FAR more reliable than magnetos and because it's difficult (if not impossible) and expensive to modify the heads so that they can accept dual spark plugs.
@PistonAvatarGuy5 жыл бұрын
@iBiana Doubt Very, VERY rarely are custom heads produced for the purpose of converting an automotive engine into an aircraft engine, because the cost of doing so is extremely high. - I didn't say that dual ignitions were used to improve performance, I said that the extremely high reliability of direct, electronic ignition systems has made the need for dual ignition systems obsolete.
@HighDefinitionVideo5 жыл бұрын
@iBiana Doubt Thank you very much for that.
@HighDefinitionVideo5 жыл бұрын
@@PistonAvatarGuy Thank you very much for that
@gusalmighty50985 жыл бұрын
Why not jet ski engines? Kawasaki STX 15f.....1.5 litre 4 stroke I-4 makes 160hp and only weighs 177 lbs. Plus these engines are super compact and made to run all day at high rpm in a high drag environment on 87 octane fuel. 8000 WOT rpm and best fuel economy "in water" comes at the all day cruising speed of 5500-6000rpm on most of them. The throttle on a jet ski may as well be a switch because most recreational riders are either WOT or not at all......yet they are still very reliable engines.
@2idolon5 жыл бұрын
As a Ground Dweller , I found this really interesting , informative , Thanks
@asherdiamantberg5862 Жыл бұрын
Sir is it Possible to use another Car engine that exceeds 400HP apart from the Car Engines you listed. Thanks 👍
@LeftSeatAdventures4 жыл бұрын
Woo hoo for the #aircooled VW Sonex! I'd happily fly behind a Corvair as well. The Aeromomentum and Vikings are really intriguing too. It's great to have so many options to pick from! Wasn't always the case.
@birdhaus20215 жыл бұрын
Love engines. I love aircraft. I love this video. Thank you sir.
@WSQuest5 жыл бұрын
CHEERS FROM ATLANTA, GA. Like always, you did an excellent job. Thank you.
@cardboardrob15 жыл бұрын
That ls3 should be very fast. And sound awesome
@pappybo495 жыл бұрын
Mike, you just keep improving. Very good and very informative. Thanks for the info. It opens new avenues for engine options that are most welcome.
@losonsrenoster4 жыл бұрын
An ex zimbabwean built a three-fifth scale Spitfire around 1989 using a V8 Rover engine, he claimed it had a better power-to-weight ratio than the original Spitfire with the RR Merlin.
@eugeneoreilly9356 Жыл бұрын
The V8 Rover engine is lightweight and reliable.Origionally designed for use by Buick but not used it's design was resurrected by Rover and put into production.
@losonsrenoster Жыл бұрын
@@eugeneoreilly9356 I often wondered what happened to that Spitfire, when I saw it, it was in the process of assembly. He wanted to have it completed, tested and flying for the 50th anniversary of the Battle of Britain in September 1990. He managed to get most of his money out of Zim by putting all his funds into parts and material that he took across border into SA on a clapped out truck, declaring the freight to be scrap metal.
@randyrobertson61165 жыл бұрын
Hey my brother , I've really started to get into the flying scene since I found your channel. Your videos are well edited and we'll produced and narrated. You provide a lot of very good information and with a great flare of entertainment. I've subbed and will be looking forward to all of your new videos. Thank you , Randy from Connecticut. ,,👍
@melvinserrano3493 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, Mike! 👍
@kevinkelley36575 жыл бұрын
ls3.....look up seven marine, they make an outboard engine that is nothing more than an ls engine with an outboard motor foot attached, the thing makes 557hp with a supercharger attached to it. The corvair engine was an aircraft configuration engine from the start, so it only makes sense to me that it would make a great aircraft engine.
@MaynardFreek5 жыл бұрын
I owned a Corvair many years ago
@davet60244 жыл бұрын
What kind of home built is that large orange bush plane on the video link?
@davidupton93545 жыл бұрын
I saw one the other day that used a 20 hp Briggs and Stratton! Home built micro plane but it had a lawnmower motor in it!
@terranovarain65704 жыл бұрын
Think you could power a pedal powered quadcopter with it g.co/kgs/AxnB59
@pabloricardodetarragon26493 жыл бұрын
It's a MC30 Colomban. An ultralight that goes well cruising speed 110 one (hundred and ten) mph with 25 HP, using 1 gallon hour at 93 mph.
@LordNth5 жыл бұрын
Wondering why no mention of diesels or radial engines?
@PistonAvatarGuy5 жыл бұрын
Not many radials found in cars, diesels are too heavy.
@alexandrenazario78575 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Mojo.. .tks Alexandre Brazil...
@mikebri52744 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised engines based on the Subaru boxer are not included. I know there are companies that offer that conversion.
@randyatwood44345 жыл бұрын
be a cold day in hell before i pay 35,000 dollars for a ls3 crate engine !!!
@harleyme31635 жыл бұрын
nah... you buy a 350 chevy block and build it like these guys did... in a car it weighs about 850 pounds and developes around 300 horse tuned.. for $30000 lol a 4 cyl Rotax = to that is 350 pounds at $5800 its because its a corvette engine.... gotta press the price up you know.. brand name shit
@bloodmoongrizzlythefirst64925 жыл бұрын
@@harleyme3163 You really have no idea what you are talking about do ya??
@mattivirta5 жыл бұрын
@@harleyme3163 shit chevy motor NOT ewer can cost 30 000$ thats can buy full car. idiot pay one motor 30 000$ or all must be gold inside covered and diamond beearing,titanium parts, but no have no pay newer 30k one motor or have tyotally big idiot and seller totally big scammer thief.
@hugostiglitz69145 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention, the Subaru engine, Mazda rotary, Citroen 2cv and BMW R100 motorbike engine. Yamaha LC350 were used in microlites. Theres more but I can't think of them right now
@roberthertz66345 жыл бұрын
Great. Question where was Subaru power plant. Enjoyed your vidio. Thanks.
@ronaldharris65695 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not the suburu,13b,was originally an aircraft engine
@txnrik3 жыл бұрын
Mike, what's that aircraft type, the gold taildragger that's the lead snap for this vid? do you have a video on that plane?
@ExaltedDuck3 жыл бұрын
i feel like the supercharged gen III Hemi might be an interesting choice. They're a little heavier than that LS3, but are available with 700 hp on 91 octane and some models over 1000 hp on 100 octane. Of course, cooling could be a challenge depending gearing and cruise rpm.
@tylough Жыл бұрын
Probably too heavy for aviation use. iron block.
@baddonkey68765 жыл бұрын
I should be in the aircraft conversion business, the most exspensive engines I've ever seen in my life
@sc121005 жыл бұрын
Man you come up with some content! Wish you nothing but success in this channel.
@lucacarabajal44183 жыл бұрын
What's the name of the brown video cover plane?
@mikecorleone67975 жыл бұрын
My vw engine conversion only cost me roughly $2k... 65hp agl 10,500ft.. 3 gallon burn per hour experimental stol craft
@mattivirta5 жыл бұрын
WV has before popular many little plane but problem have no power good. too small today any plane.
@dandahermitseals55825 жыл бұрын
That's what I installed in my Rands K-R 2. Great dependable efficient.
@tommy35ss5 жыл бұрын
Very good video, your best yet in my opinion! Thank you for all your hard work
@HobbitHomes2635 жыл бұрын
been running a Subara for 7 years ..not issues
@rv6ejguy4 жыл бұрын
Been running mine for 17 years. Works fine too.
@joaquingomez67683 жыл бұрын
Exelente vídeo sir, Nice information
@robertgray18745 жыл бұрын
It’s just a car engine, it shouldn’t be that expensive!
@paulogden74175 жыл бұрын
Nice video with some good research. There are several comments on the lack of a Subaru engine. IMHO the modern Honda engines being built by Viking offer higher power, lower weight and all the benefits of a highly engineered and tested auto engine. The man behind Viking built hundreds of Subaru based engines but switched to Honda for these reasons. The biggest reason for choosing Subaru initially was the flat design which keeps the propeller down low like an aircraft engine. But Viking has found a great way to do this with a honda engine while keeping the engine upright-by adding a third gear to the gearbox. This moves the prop up high where it belongs while also providing standard (for US) direction of rotation. And modifications to the engine itself are minimal, again to keep the Honda intact. This engine is also available with redundant ECU. And of course it has one coil for each plug. More than 100 of these in service.
@scbane5 жыл бұрын
The man behind Viking also screwed a bunch of customers, never made it right, and went out of business before coming back with another auto conversion. No Viking for me.
@thatguyalex28353 жыл бұрын
@@scbane Sounds like a greedy corporation. Thankfully, I don't buy aircraft or engines, but I am a technology and science enthusiast. I feel bad for those who have gotten screwed over by that company. What other greedy/bad stuff did they do with their customers?
@jacksavage1975 жыл бұрын
Really interesting. Never knew car engines were and option. Thanks.
@ragimundvonwallat89615 жыл бұрын
type pietenpol in google . you are welcome
@henryD93635 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. You didn't mention anything about dual ignition. I couldn't see it on any of the pics. I think it's worth talking about especially in regard to reliability and safety.
@PistonAvatarGuy5 жыл бұрын
There's no need for dual ignition with modern ignition systems.
@henryD93635 жыл бұрын
@@PistonAvatarGuy okay that makes sense. I just thought there was an FAA requirement for dual ignition. Got to license long long years ago but no longer fly anymore,
@PistonAvatarGuy5 жыл бұрын
@@henryD9363 There might be for certified engines, but that probably should be updated to account for the extremely high reliability of modern ignition systems.
@jerniganal295 жыл бұрын
One comment and one question: the background music seemed a little too loud over your voice in my headphones, but this was a very informative video. Do any of these conversions have dual ignition systems?
@mojogrip5 жыл бұрын
Noted. I know some of them do but I'll have to get back to you on the specifics.
@bitteroldman31515 жыл бұрын
Al I have a Happi engine (VW based) that uses SCAT heads with dual spark plugs for dual ignition.
@mcgavin098 Жыл бұрын
How does the ls3 GM engine stay cool?
@PaintmanJohn5 жыл бұрын
Great Video. Very informative. Thank you.
@davidtrindle64735 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, thanks
@MariaOrLex5 жыл бұрын
Brother I love ur videos I’m into experimental aircraft bc I don’t wanna spend those big bucks I really LOVE YOUR VIDEOS MAKE MORE VIDEOS about experimental aircraft
@AkPacerPilot5 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait till someone makes a conversion for that new 4 stroke 300 hp rotax snow machine engine. Weighs 180 pounds. With a turbo on it, I’d guess you could get near 350 hp or more. It’s kind of like the Yamaha apex but more hp for same weight
@PistonAvatarGuy5 жыл бұрын
EdgePerformance is working on a conversion of the Yamaha Apex engine, they're calling it the EPeX.
@AkPacerPilot5 жыл бұрын
PistonAvatarGuy yes I was aware of that one. I’m talking about the BRP Rotax 1630 Ace. Comes in at ~180 pounds, 300 hp without turbocharged. Power to weight of the base apex is 150 without the turbo comes in at 150ish pounds producing 160 hp. This rotax with a turbo add on would absolutely destroy the apex hp weight ratio. The other issue with the apex is how tall it is, most cowlings require it to be fitted at an angle which is funky. Regardless, there are some very cool stuff out there that it’s just a matter of time before we start seeing clutch / gear drives to convert them to work with a prop. Very cool stuff!
@PistonAvatarGuy5 жыл бұрын
@@AkPacerPilot Yeah, I wasn't sure what engine you were talking about. That Rotax engine is pretty cool, but it is supercharged and turbocharging is a better fit for aircraft. The Rotax engine is probably taller than the Apex engine as it's a larger displacement and has fewer cylinders, meaning that it has much larger cylinders. Both of the engines being discussed here were designed to run at an angle. Definitely very cool engines. Pushing such small engines to such high power levels is a little risky, though, in my opinion.
@UncleLoodis5 жыл бұрын
I'll take the Honda Accord engine please. I've never had any problems with my Hondas.
@phillip_mcguinness70254 жыл бұрын
Not hard to turbo for altitude compensation.
@franciscastiglione31915 жыл бұрын
Y no mention of William Wynne when talking about the Corvair?
@myotherusername92245 жыл бұрын
No mention of Wynne's flycorvair.net because this guy is just a beginner, he's not an authority. He just visits people and interviews them. He's more of a writer than an aviator and lacks the solid, deep understanding that comes from decades of work in the field. CONTACT! magazine and their back issues will have way more information, more valuable insights. This is an ok-ish video because it gets people interested but it's chock full of naive and uninformed ideas. The Corvair guy he interviewed has a very nice original design composite airframe. But he would be no where without everything he copied from Wynne, who has done _all_ the really valuable original work on Corvairs. His blog is uniquely insightful and thorough in Experimental Aviation. He is 10 times the man with 10 times better engineering and craftsmanship in his engines. And that's why Wynne dominates the conversion industry in terms of flying airplanes, and the guy in this video, and his engines, will never be anything more than a footnote. He should just forget about Corvairs and make a similar effort with Subarus, because that's an engine with as much potential... but he'd rather just rip off someone else's hard work. Sad.
@DaxHamel5 жыл бұрын
Good info, concise, easy listening. Thanks a lot.
@shamshatukhan85955 жыл бұрын
Hi
@f82man5 жыл бұрын
Yes you are correct. I was going to supercharge the latest version of the Dodge Viper V-10 for use in a Twin Mustang Replica of 85% scale. The V-10 is easily capable of 800 hp at 3800 RPM, and in a 5500 pound air frame it would scream. But life happened and l got sick and had to scrap the whole idea....Dang it......
@timtravasos27425 жыл бұрын
Aero Momentum and Viking seems like the best deal.
@xpsmango414611 ай бұрын
Yamaha Apex, no mention ?
@geraldbrown77185 жыл бұрын
The engine from my ninja 1400 should be great for a plane. Over 200 h.p., light weight and able to run at high r.p.m for long periods of time. Just need some PVC pipe and some plywood. I got this.
@touristguy874 жыл бұрын
The use of the word "should" is inherently invalid in an aviation context. It either is or is not. No wishful thinking.
@myMotoring4 жыл бұрын
the original 1903 Wright Flyer engine only have 12 hp. All car engine today have many times the power/weight ratio and viable option, if not subjected to negative G for very long.
@thelastrebelshow16275 жыл бұрын
This channel is for dreamers myself included 😂
@jeffandreson4 жыл бұрын
have you checked out the BMW motorcycle boxer engine aero conversions? Popular in Europe.
@phoneticau5 жыл бұрын
Subaru EA 81 classic cant go wrong for cheap DIY, reduction drive and hub + motor under $2k 80HP 1000 hours TBO
@MajorCaliber5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that boxer engine from Fuji Heavy Industries is as near bulletproof as they come, and has a long history of both factory and aftermarket turbocharging...
@dandahermitseals55825 жыл бұрын
You beat me to this example. It's a drop in replacement for the VW engine. And being water cooled doesn't habitually fry cylinder #4.
@Vega-nn4gn3 жыл бұрын
Researching for a shell to swap my 5.0 in for flying, any suggestions?
@MsRandiCook5 жыл бұрын
Ok, next video we need to have a turboprop for experimentals.
@bobstovall54495 жыл бұрын
You are in luck. www.kitplanes.com/issues/32_6/flight_reports/Turbine-Powered-RV-10_21268-1.html Here's the engine used in the Van's 10 www.pbsaerospace.com/our-products/tp-100-turboprop-engine
@MsRandiCook5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bob! I have talking to PBS and received initial pricing. It looks like my build will be piston in leiu of turboprop. Cost with no airfiltration was over $125k.
@johnmartindale66235 жыл бұрын
Randi Cook """
@charleswilson9255 жыл бұрын
$$$$$$
@stevecarlisle33235 жыл бұрын
@@MsRandiCook for sure that's a lot of money for 250HP.
@montana16364 жыл бұрын
The 5.3 may have more horse power, but it’s torque that spins a propeller, and the IO540 has a bunch of twisting force!
@phillipzx37545 жыл бұрын
How can you not mention the Subaru or Mazda 13b? I'd fly behind either of those two before any engines in this video. I wouldn't be caught dead using a GM engine.
@kevinmoore48875 жыл бұрын
It seems like the Subaru and Mazda engines were hard to cool. There are some great examples flying, but many gave up. The Viking motor is made by the guy that threw in the towel on making Subie engines.
@jamesengland74615 жыл бұрын
Subaru engines are very common, and so are Mazda rotaries, but the rotary gets horrid fuel economy. I do not know why they aren't mentioned, but the ridiculously rare, 50+ year old Corvair engine is. As for the Chevy V8, it's one of the most durable, reliable, efficient engines on the planet for any price, yet it's cheaper than most. The LS motor is easily built to 1000+hp for racing use.
@JoshuaTootell9 ай бұрын
You wouldn't be caught dead because the LS is legendary for being a great engine 😂 I'm not even a Chevy guy.
@jesseakers72982 жыл бұрын
Nice to see good car engine's going into airplanes. It's time to get rid of the Garbage.
@Jimmythekid0075 жыл бұрын
I think Honda is the best engine, like my car.
@mattivirta5 жыл бұрын
if you talk BEST engine, longlife, true working alltime, have only some motor and honda not have thats list. V8 5 liter motor have longlive lot more than anythink other, working ewerywere and sure alltime have 2 liter lada motor. good sure alltime work have volvo B20 motor. WV beetle have old popular airplane motor but problem have no power lot abouty only 50-60hp. honda NOT have true newer BEST motor, only good motor but not true sure working and longlife motor.
@budrohammbone28064 жыл бұрын
Mike, Nice Summary
@shanehoward41975 жыл бұрын
Chevy engine!?! Can't keep mine running on the ground much less in an airplane.
@ctsteve19675 жыл бұрын
Really? you have to put fuel in the tank first
@w.e.s.4 жыл бұрын
That's ur own fault get a mechanic
@SpaceMan-f6d Жыл бұрын
You're awesome and you rule! Very helpful and educative video. Thank you 👾
@mynameisciko48855 жыл бұрын
Now ill wait a plane powered with suzuki hayabusa engine
@BluePorker5 жыл бұрын
Been done.
@craigkeller5 жыл бұрын
GREAT video! Thank you!
@flexairz5 жыл бұрын
Cmon Mike. Don't compare a two stroke Rotax 582 with the four stroke Aeromomentum. Use the Rotax 912 80 hp for that.
@nigelmayer80616 ай бұрын
Please include torque, relevant?
@justincase52725 жыл бұрын
The price of aircraft engines are a CRIME. The cost of a bare block Chevy 350 is only $1,012. A crate (all pieces in place, except external hardware like a radiator): $2,800. Therefore, the cost of a comparatively simple gear reduction box and mounting hardware is $50,000??? NO. It's the darn aircraft engine price-through-the-roof-mafia. No wonder people are keeping their 1950's engines running.
@bc19532 жыл бұрын
How many hours with the LS3
@TMB2475 жыл бұрын
Current GM Dependability vs Gravity ... No Thanks
@ramazkutateladze5385 жыл бұрын
mind you that on higher altitudes auto-engines` performance is affected drastically
@johntempest2675 жыл бұрын
@@ramazkutateladze538 Not anymore than certified aircraft engines. In fact the ls 3 at 10.5 to 1 compression ratio is probably effected less than a io 540 at 8.5 to 1.
@ramazkutateladze5385 жыл бұрын
@@johntempest267 hmm.. I thought aircraft fuel had higher octane than ordinary gasoline; why would someone wanted to make an airplane engine with 8:5 cr.. hmmm
@johntempest2675 жыл бұрын
@@ramazkutateladze538 Good question, I don't know the answer, but I'm sure about the compression of both engines. I've other questions, why are car engines happy running unleaded gas with hardened valve seats, but certified engines require lead? And why does 100LL (av gas) contain 4 times the lead than leaded auto gas once did? Why does the 7k $ LS3 feature state of the art fuel injection, while 100k $ IO 540 use a carburetor unchanged since 1950? And why should an oversized, air cooled, carburetored lawnmower engine cost 100,000 dollars?
@ramazkutateladze5385 жыл бұрын
@@johntempest267 Carbs are more stable at higher RPMs : ) not sure about the rest
@haiqalnajmi80904 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this usefull info
@Beanpapac155 жыл бұрын
If you’re paying 30 grand for an ls and only getting 400hp you’re getting ripped off
@GeekOfAllness5 жыл бұрын
There are two issues here. First, putting 1000 hp on something causes a ton of extra wear. Aircraft engines are almost always designed for decent performance and excellent longevity, because it's a lot harder to just pull over and call a tow truck when you're sitting at 10,000 feet. So, unlike your dyno queens at the local car club meetup, this is 400 reliable hp. Second, that money includes all the work somebody else did to design and build all the components needed to convert from a car engine to an aircraft engine. You could certainly do any of these conversions cheaper if you're decent with mechanical work and don't mind spending the time. But good luck buying a $10,000 LS3 off craigslist and getting the kind of performance and reliability you'd get with one of these without a lot of work.
@mattivirta5 жыл бұрын
if you pay 30 K $ one motor you have totally big idiot, no newer cost 30K.
@GeekOfAllness5 жыл бұрын
@@mattivirta The Rotax 915 IS Turbo is $37K new, and gets 140 HP. There's a *lot* of engineering that went into making the lightest motor possible for that power, working well at a wide range of altitudes, and giving it really good reliability. And don't forget the enormous cost of certification in the aircraft world. www.cps-parts.com/catalog/rtxpages/915isrotaxengine140.php?gclid=Cj0KCQiA0NfvBRCVARIsAO4930knlCOXI7zDTzVIcNcbGBFA8hcRC3cmm0ulG-Cz9sEJrw4wbHGr6fEaAk8LEALw_wcB
@magnatron77345 жыл бұрын
All the parts probably have to pass aircraft cert. unless experimental
@crazeguy265 жыл бұрын
Well the thing is powering a plane and and each take off is at wide open for minutes at a time. in a car maybe 30 seconds or never at all.
@SirMasterJoe5 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike Have you ever heard of anyone using a Nissan RB26 DETT for their Experimental plane build?
@mojogrip5 жыл бұрын
No I haven't 😊
@hawkdsl5 жыл бұрын
The dream of dropping a couple of LS3's in a Baron 58 with full length headers running down each side of the cowlings... and 4 blade props.. where's my hand lotion.
@rebelyell225 жыл бұрын
the FAA would looooove that
@notpoliticallycorrect4 жыл бұрын
excellent video!
@bellazuniga9935 жыл бұрын
Surprised that there was no mention of Subaru H4 or H6.
@907AlphaKilo3 жыл бұрын
What’s the thumbnail airplane? The orange turbine that looks like a pc-6
@mrhats8305 жыл бұрын
I think you forgot about the Raptor using the VW twin turbo Diesel engine in their airplane. Although it hasn’t officially flown yet because they are still taxing around the airport until the test pilot flies it.
@glennredwine2894 жыл бұрын
Up to what altitude can you run a non turbocharged auto engine? Don't you need the turbo charging at higher altitude because of the lower density of air at altitude and lower concentration of oxygen?
@ashsmitty22445 жыл бұрын
Stop it mojo! I’m trying to get things done! Edit: compliment in disguise