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5 Dive Watches That Are BETTER Than The Submariner (2022)

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The Time Teller

The Time Teller

Күн бұрын

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@FedericoTalksWatches
@FedericoTalksWatches 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very kind shout out!
@historicalplayground
@historicalplayground 2 жыл бұрын
Never wore a watch my entire adult life until this month. I am 42. I went with the Seamaster 300 gray dial, blue bezel, blue rubber strap. My test for picking was which watch will I want to keep and pay for service for during the rest of my life. Happy with the decision. Cheers!
@trevbarlow9719
@trevbarlow9719 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, that is a great first piece. Wear it in good health!
@leoneeds9311
@leoneeds9311 2 жыл бұрын
"during the rest of my life", famous last words huh
@historicalplayground
@historicalplayground 2 жыл бұрын
Hope to get a 2nd piece on a future day.
@lbco5229
@lbco5229 2 жыл бұрын
Well chosen. A Seamaster was my first as well. Says I 40/50 watches later.
@coachtom7825
@coachtom7825 2 жыл бұрын
See your smarter than me I was a shmuck starting with the Tags, graduating to the Breitlings and eventually ending at Omega. I wish like hell I would have started with Omega. You live and you learn
@DanaTheInsane
@DanaTheInsane 2 жыл бұрын
I'm wearing a stainless steel 31 jewel automatic dive watch. It keeps excellent time. It gets attention. It gets compliments. Its an 090 Vostok Amphibia. It costs $73. I can't imagine a watch that costs four times more than my car, that does virtually everything this one does yet is less waterproof.
@sandrodunatov485
@sandrodunatov485 2 жыл бұрын
great watch. Should have made it into this list :-D , the 090 is by far the nicer Amphibia imho. I would wear my Amphibias more often if they just had developed a quicker setup for the calendar (it is a problem if you like to change watch every few days). But they are keepers, I love and use them as well as my Omegas and Seikos.
@timeandnourishment1961
@timeandnourishment1961 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandrodunatov485 Good point about the date. I have four Amphibias with the no-date 2415 movement, and three Komandirskies with the dreaded date feature. They're all great fun. Cheers 🍻. !
@timeandnourishment1961
@timeandnourishment1961 2 жыл бұрын
Good taste and sense. You can look at a Vostok and say "It's just a bloody watch ". They're always stylish too. Cheers 🍻!
@michaels5166
@michaels5166 2 жыл бұрын
That's called logic and it works...kudos..
@hgr.7857
@hgr.7857 2 жыл бұрын
1🎯🎯% My buddy at work wearing his Vostok "scuba dude" with the sweeping diver on the sec hand is what got me back into watches! I had no idea that autos were attainable, let alone relatively cheap... 🤯 Currently rotating an Orient Mako 2, Seiko 5 sport, and a Citizen fieldwatch along with my beloved G-shock DW5600. All for less than half of what those plastic MoonSwatch Speedy (quartz!) emulations are reselling for 👍 Oh hell yeah
@thiagocascais33
@thiagocascais33 2 жыл бұрын
Submariner seams that nothing is in the wrong place. Just a perfect combination of forms and materials and a design that will last forever. It's the Porsche 911 of watches.
@bobbarker14
@bobbarker14 2 жыл бұрын
I am very fortunate to have both a Submariner and a 911 and yes, there is no substitute for either.
@TheGrenadier97
@TheGrenadier97 2 жыл бұрын
A timeless design, like the waiting.
@becksy539
@becksy539 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing liek a porche 911, analogies from watches to cars are rubbish, a 911 can out perform most cars at its price range, a sub cant do any better in performance than a 100 dollar ali express watch, its just a brand
@wukillah
@wukillah 2 жыл бұрын
You are correct sir.
@bobbarker14
@bobbarker14 2 жыл бұрын
@@becksy539 Well please show me where the $100 chronometer rated watches with true 300m water resistance that can last a few lifetimes all the while appreciating in value are. I'd like to buy a couple of hundred of them.
@123ClassicRock
@123ClassicRock 2 жыл бұрын
Unusually, I felt incredibly ignored at my Omega AD. Did they have watches in stock? Yes. But they acted like I wasn’t a serious customer and ignored my pricing questions as if I wasn’t a buyer. I went into my Rolex AD (no purchase history) and was treated like royalty. No watches in stock, but I was sat down, offered a drink, and enjoyed an exciting conversation with the rep. I was assured that I will receive a sub, it will just take a few months. Insane how backwards this seems from what most people declare online. Hope I actually get it 😂
@janelavie4115
@janelavie4115 2 жыл бұрын
You will get a submariner in just a few months? I highly doubt that.
@rammillim5555
@rammillim5555 2 жыл бұрын
If they told you that, you can believe them. You took the time to sit down and have a nice conversation with a rep... you know, like normal humans do. I'm sure they have plenty of people that come in and ask to be on the waitlist. They're not in a rush to fool you into thinking you're gonna get one. What you may not know is that it's also a part of their process... they're vetting you as you speak. And this is why building a relationship (a human one) is so important. Believe it or not, but some of these ADs really want these watches to go to good homes. And they are doing a lot to ensure that happens. With everything that's going on right now on the gray market, you can't blame them for their apprehension. There is so much negativity out there about Rolex, ADs, and the gray market but as with all things, at the end of the day it's a matter of supply and demand. Can't hate on Rolex just because so many people want their watches. That's ludicrous. I know plenty of people who had little to no purchase history that were awarded the opportunity (after 2-6 months waiting) to buy the Rolex they wanted simply because they built a relationship with an AD that wasn't necessarily monetary. They were just being enthusiasts looking for the watch they wanted. Why isn't that a real thing anymore? Why do we walk into ADs with a sh*t attitude like these guys are the enemy? If you can prove to these guys you're not another snarky, bitter a-hole that whine on the internet about how they can't get a watch then maybe... Just maybe you've got a good chance. Good luck brotha and hope you get it!!
@valetudo025
@valetudo025 2 жыл бұрын
@@janelavie4115 my co worker got one after 6 months. It can be done. Waiting list is not real. They pick and choose who gets one.
@janelavie4115
@janelavie4115 2 жыл бұрын
valetudo025 Waiting list is 100% real. But of course they can give a shortcut to somebody if they want.
@valetudo025
@valetudo025 2 жыл бұрын
@@janelavie4115 so that’s what I mean. It’s not really a waiting list in the traditional sense. They pick and choose who can have one. You are not in a numbered line done fairly.
@63worf
@63worf 2 жыл бұрын
I had a great experience at the JLC boutique in Sydney. I was just window shopping and they knew it, but still brought out the fine whiskey and we had a long conversation about watches with the salesman and the store manager well past closing time. One of the best watch retail experience I’ve ever had.
@a.m.m.4592
@a.m.m.4592 2 жыл бұрын
Since you recommended the Glasshute. For a more affordable option with similar design I also recommend the Brietling Superocean 42mm. I actually like the Cartier Diver also. No one else does 😆.
@e28forever30
@e28forever30 2 жыл бұрын
A Brietling, is that a fake Breitling?
@brcbrc1340
@brcbrc1340 2 жыл бұрын
Cartier dive in gold is a beautiful thong frown
@bngr_bngr
@bngr_bngr 2 жыл бұрын
That Cartier is just so in far left field. They need to hire some new designers to design their diver watches.
@Spurdospaerde692
@Spurdospaerde692 Жыл бұрын
@@e28forever30 The same Alibaba vendors who sell Brietlings also offer the aforementioned Glasshutes.
@e28forever30
@e28forever30 Жыл бұрын
@@Spurdospaerde692 😆
@svrds10
@svrds10 2 жыл бұрын
Grand Seiko’s are absolutely amazing. Picking up my SLGA009 today however what really sets them apart from others is the customer service. Your not the first person to mention how welcoming they are to watch enthusiasts. Great list! I have a Blancpain on my wish list.
@doctoralgy8186
@doctoralgy8186 2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome. A Grand Seiko all-steel diver with spring drive, particularly the SBGA461 is definitely my all time grail watch alongside an Omega I have my eye on. A GS diver for 6K is a good deal for me compared to 11K from the Evolution line....eesh.
@proton2635
@proton2635 2 жыл бұрын
Choose the Planet Ocean if you want a top tier dive watch. Choose the Submainer if you just want something with Rolex written on it.
@Leftystrat
@Leftystrat 2 жыл бұрын
Never pay over retail for a sports watch unless your a brainwashed fomo Rolex junky
@paulcosta941
@paulcosta941 2 жыл бұрын
Omega Seamaster 300 Heritage, just purchased mine new a couple of weeks ago, Blue dial and very classy looking, can't stop staring at it, it will make you forget about Rolex.
@lucgeoffrion1970
@lucgeoffrion1970 2 жыл бұрын
What about Longines’ HydroConquest? 300 m., usually 3 case sizes and a variety of colors and bracelets! And between the $1500 and $2500 range, so you don’t give your credit card a heart attack!
@Craigsaskatoon
@Craigsaskatoon 2 жыл бұрын
I’d pick an Omega Planet Ocean for a diver over a submariner
@ErikL727
@ErikL727 2 жыл бұрын
Impeccable choice. In fact, I feel BETTER in all situations with a PO on my wrist as opposed to the Rolex baggage.
@justindittburner216
@justindittburner216 2 жыл бұрын
I'd pick an Omega over a Rolex any day....not that I can afford either
@disasterpiecemusic
@disasterpiecemusic 2 жыл бұрын
Damn right
@jonaskalen1759
@jonaskalen1759 2 жыл бұрын
Yes i have the PO and it’s awsome!
@richardbosh4522
@richardbosh4522 2 жыл бұрын
Agree 100% the Omega Planet Ocean non chrono is a beast and the quality and craftsmanship top notch the bracelet on the po feels like silk on the wrist. From a Rolex Submariner owner.
@scottlewis2372
@scottlewis2372 2 жыл бұрын
Nice story about the GS boutique. And that diver is AMAZING. I bought an SLA047 last year and I think (yeah, as an owner, and the guy who buys something NEVER makes a mistake) the monocoque MM's are far more interesting (better?) than a Sub. I'm happy with my sub homages but I had to buy a real MarineMaster. Your mom is right about the Cartier. Roman numerals on a diver makes me want to wretch. Thanks for the video. Nice job.
@getoffmylawn8986
@getoffmylawn8986 2 жыл бұрын
Right there with you about Roman numerals, bro.🤮
@thomasdavis8117
@thomasdavis8117 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so pleased to hear your story about the Grand Seiko boutique I've wanted to visit for a while and it's great to hear they are so friendly and generous.
@mikehoward9912
@mikehoward9912 2 жыл бұрын
Biff, Chad, Palmer and his wife Muffy came to the conclusion that the Submariner is the best dive/dress casual watch ever produced. Everything else is just a pitiful substitute. I don't wear it when I'm collecting the weekly rent money from my low income apts. My $80 Invicta keeps me safe from a mugging. Such savages. Rolex will turn that BlancPain out like a $20 French Ho. That GS like homely giesha with bad breath. I'd need 3 pitchers of beer and horny frauline to wear that German watch. Stick to making cars and bratwurst. Just kidding. I sold my Submariner 30 years ago. You know the one with the sheet metal clasp. Great choices Jory.
@exvan3571
@exvan3571 2 жыл бұрын
Muffy stepped on a ping pong ball at the country club. It was ghastly.
@Leftystrat
@Leftystrat 2 жыл бұрын
Blancpain fifty fathoms 45mm blue dial blows them all out of the ballpark if you got a7’5 inch wrist up in titanium. Sooo comfortable. Had Rolex never go back. They can self implode for all I care. Glashutte a fine watch, way underated
@BoozewithNick
@BoozewithNick 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jory, great list. I liked Federico’s too, and it was cool that you two were on the same page with the Glasshutte, such a gem. Loved the Grand Seiko. In fact that is probably the first Grand Seiko that I could seriously see myself with. It’s very tool-watchy for them, which is a nice departure from their ultra-refined norm.
@jntroisi
@jntroisi 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you do a hands on review of a Marathon GSAR
@themightysquid
@themightysquid 2 жыл бұрын
Got the BB58. Fantastic watch! Don’t underestimate Christopher Ward Trident C60’s.
@mrbud8524
@mrbud8524 2 жыл бұрын
As a Rolex Collector. Has to be The Omega Seamaster 300 42m by far it has everything 👌
@paulgarcia1147
@paulgarcia1147 2 жыл бұрын
Just my unprofessional opinion but the fact that everyone is creating content about “better alternatives” to the submariner just speaks volumes about the submariner. It will always be the top steel diver that most watch people desire. Love your channel, one of my favorites and always funny and informative.
@Maestro940304
@Maestro940304 2 жыл бұрын
Man I love how you added the GS Diver. They seriously need more attention.
@vaughan2203
@vaughan2203 2 жыл бұрын
Ot's pretty much a .... Seiko.
@codys5727
@codys5727 2 жыл бұрын
I recommend a black bay 58. I know it's been said a thousand times but fantastic value and luxury feel without the rolex crap
@paulpasquale5680
@paulpasquale5680 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, bad miss from a brand actually designed to replace Rolex for the reasons he is harping on about.
@exexpat11
@exexpat11 2 жыл бұрын
Or the Captain Cook from Rado. Very different perspectives.
@themightysquid
@themightysquid 2 жыл бұрын
I got my BB58. What’s one to do with the other $10g’s?
@drdesign6886
@drdesign6886 2 жыл бұрын
If you are happy with a subby homage then BB is way to go. It’s high quality for sure.
@jefferyneu3915
@jefferyneu3915 2 жыл бұрын
That Cartier is awesome. I also value my Omega Planet Ocean for more than I would a Submariner. In fact, I traded my Sub for the PO. The Sub had developed problems and wouldn’t run at all. I walked out with the PO and a check for $1,800.00. I had the sub for about 9 months. I have owned the PO for several years and plan on keeping it forever! I never wear a watch to impress anyone but me!
@tomp.214
@tomp.214 2 жыл бұрын
I always get great service when I go into the Seiko boutique in the city I live in. Last time I bought a watch there while they were sizing the bracelet they let me try on a SBGY007 (even though I was just buying a seiko 5), absolutely stunning watch!
@loganholmberg2295
@loganholmberg2295 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree on the tuna.
@themightysquid
@themightysquid 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2000 Rolex Explorer2(black) but since I got the BB58 I rarely wear my Rolex. The Tudor is so beautiful I find myself staring at it instead of reading the time. The size is perfect and super comfortable. As much as I’d want a Sub, I’d probably end up wearing the BB58 more often. Oh, and as of this writing, it’s 1/4th the cost of a pre-owned Sub
@nexttimewatchreview
@nexttimewatchreview 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you mentioned the Cartier, I love that Cartier and it’s on my wishlist!
@thetimeteller
@thetimeteller 2 жыл бұрын
I’m jealous!!
@nicpro85
@nicpro85 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t find it on their website is it discontinued?
@nexttimewatchreview
@nexttimewatchreview 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicpro85 yep, discontinued sadly.
@michaelg8258
@michaelg8258 2 жыл бұрын
I want to echo those who have already mentioned the epic (though perhaps underrated?) Omega Planet Ocean. The 39.5mm was my choice. Not only a timeless beauty, it gives one the sense of being indestructible. Takes a backseat to no diver.
@louiscyfer6944
@louiscyfer6944 2 жыл бұрын
it's just too tiny. nit everyone has tiny wrists.
@louiscyfer6944
@louiscyfer6944 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomashowardmd247 at almost 9 inches my wrist is not medium unfortunately. the submariner looks silly on me. 45mm is good for a dress watch. for a diver i prefer 48-50mm.
@mickd4610
@mickd4610 Жыл бұрын
Agree mate. The best diver. I love mine and fine it very classy.
@marteanderson7963
@marteanderson7963 Жыл бұрын
@@louiscyfer6944 I've got an Oris Pro Diver that you would like for the larger wrist.
@louiscyfer6944
@louiscyfer6944 Жыл бұрын
@@marteanderson7963 what's the size?
@johnyoung8144
@johnyoung8144 2 жыл бұрын
The story about the GS boutique and JLC should be a lesson for all salesmen. Buying a car once I was choosing between an Audi, Mercedes Benz and a BMW. At Audi and MB they basically scoffed at me when I said how much I wanted to spend as I wasn't exactly wearing my best as I'd just been to work and the clothes were a bit on the dirty side from work. At BMW the salesman sat me down, got me coffee and had a really good chat about what I was looking for. In the end I was so happy with how I was treated at BMW I actually spent a lot more than I had originally planned. One bad salesman's loss is a good salesman's gain. So just like my experience with BMW I'm sure that those guys at Grand Seiko got plenty of sales at JLC's expense.
@indy5797
@indy5797 2 жыл бұрын
I'll take my Seiko Prospex LX Spring Drive over any that you included in your list. Better fit, finish, materials, and movement than any Oyster Rolex could ever hope to cobble together. Less than half the price of GS. It is a fantastic watch at a stunning value. You should get your hands on one for a review. I called my jewler a bit before Christmas and he had a it ready for pickup in less than a week. Sticker is around 6k, but street is under 5k.
@mattm1854
@mattm1854 2 жыл бұрын
LOL Just no
@mike73ng
@mike73ng 2 жыл бұрын
I like my Ginault OR2. It a great homage for 1/10th the price of a sub.
@robertsplitfish
@robertsplitfish 2 жыл бұрын
Why do they call it ovaltine? The bottle is round, the cup is round, they should call it roundtine! -This is gold Jerry
@johnschmeelk7309
@johnschmeelk7309 29 күн бұрын
Very nice vid. I waited for a datejust and it was only five months, but can’t imagine a secondary market with 2x markups. As an impatient guy I was lucky I had folks keeping me calm.
@Madmanmarque
@Madmanmarque 2 жыл бұрын
I have big wrists 7 5/8" and went for the Glashutte SeaQ Pano on a bracelet. I didn't even consider the current Sub the second I saw in person. Plus I got it from a AD discounted to $10,000 including a GO rubber strap and deployant buckle.
@louiscyfer6944
@louiscyfer6944 2 жыл бұрын
that's big wrists?
@jackserious3282
@jackserious3282 2 жыл бұрын
That Blancpain really hit me hard! What a watch!!
@benburgess9428
@benburgess9428 2 жыл бұрын
Jory, as a Quartz fiend, I’m glad to see that you included the Seiko Tuna. However, if I had access to your watch box I’d grab your G-Shock Mudmaster Triple Sensor every time. It fits my lifestyle a helluva lot better than a Rolex of any kind ever could.
@SlowRacer729
@SlowRacer729 2 жыл бұрын
If you're looking for a tool watch diver. Checkout Helm watches. Price point around $300, nh36 movement, 300m water resistance, each watch pressure tested by the owner. If you dive for a living this is the watch for you. Only drawback is you may have to wait 6 months for your order.
@oleg274
@oleg274 2 жыл бұрын
Even at retail, considering the 2022 prices which Rolex raised significantly for their steel sports models, I wouldn’t buy it, not saying about grey market madness. Sub is a good watch, which suppose to cost 5-6k, it isn’t better than Omega SMP300m by any means
@ryandoppelganger665
@ryandoppelganger665 2 жыл бұрын
Would recommend any Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. Vastly superior from a technical finishing perspective, as evident from the price differential. Lots of people will say the standard FF is too large and only Rolex keeps value. True but I don’t buy watches as a store of value because there are other things better suited. As for the size, limited edition FFs are smaller and you can sometimes get them below retail new and on secondary market they go above retail if you ban find one.
@andytsoi1465
@andytsoi1465 2 жыл бұрын
I do own a Sub but Omega/Tudor probably my second choice, I do keep my eye on GS coz they got some impressive craftsmanship out there. Sadly these days ppl buying Rolex as investment, these buyers have no business with watch-making.
@chriskeiser5809
@chriskeiser5809 2 жыл бұрын
I’m putting my pennies away for a Pelagos. I’m a big guy, so the size works for me and that blue is just *chefs kiss*
@djdc81
@djdc81 2 жыл бұрын
I am selling mine, let me know if you are interested
@johncook4349
@johncook4349 2 жыл бұрын
Glashutte makes badass watches. Nice to see them getting some props.
@villagranvicent
@villagranvicent Жыл бұрын
All these KZbin “experts" claim to know what makes a diver watch good or bad when the only thing they do is desk dive 😂😂
@Sovereign_sparky
@Sovereign_sparky 2 жыл бұрын
There are so many great alternatives out there from the Tudor Pelagos fxd. JLC polaris, Breguet marine, multiple options from Panerai. People just need to get the whole resale value out of their minds and buy something with the intent of never selling, making resale value irrelevant.
@noobfl
@noobfl 2 жыл бұрын
i personaly think, in terms of realy capable divers, just made for getting the job done, without any fuzz and bling, the Citzen BN0150 is probably the best divewatch on this planet. like the Seiko Tuna, its 44mm wears a lot smaller, the lume is on par with Seikos lume, its solar powered, therefor runs a long time whitout even open the caseback (therefor no risk for destroying a seel or thread and compromice the water resistance), its highly readable, the bezel is easy to grip and the whole watch is build like a tant.. and the best part is: under $200. its not a beauty, but a beast of a watch!
@Foxrock321
@Foxrock321 2 жыл бұрын
I have the planet ocean blue dial..love it..I also have the green dial Oris Aquis so great too..it’s the best green I’ve seen on a watch. Oh an I bpoght it discounted to $1800 bucks..way less than the German
@llamawizard
@llamawizard 2 жыл бұрын
Disagree with the tuna. It’s Just not as versatile, not as dressy. A more budget friendly option might be the new Aquis. Or the Seamaster. Or the Superocean Heritage. They maintain the sports looks and diver specs, but also look good dressed up or down.
@armandojuan64
@armandojuan64 2 жыл бұрын
The Casio Duro .
@Bonpu
@Bonpu 2 жыл бұрын
Why wear an awkward dive watch in the first place? Would you join a board meeting in flippers just because it was supposedly trendy 20 years ago and you can afford "the best"? What's wrong wit a JLC Master Control Date, an unobtrusive Oyster Perpetual, a stunning retro Sinn 356 chrono, a minimalist Cartier Tank, a mesmerising Serica 4512, an equally iconic and bold Seiko SRPE51? To me turning bezel divers for everyday wearing are dead.
@redjet4810
@redjet4810 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Glashutte!
@snooze_v
@snooze_v 2 жыл бұрын
The best dive warch I have is probably the 2021 Omega seamaster 300 "heritage" , it's (in my opinion at least) better than de Professional, you get a better movement with twin barrel, no helium escape valve, no crown guards, domed saphir crystal and the flat links bracelet 🤷🏻‍♂️ plus the fact you have a 57' design with a modern movement! Very happy with it on my wrist 😁
@bill-ne8kr
@bill-ne8kr 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely NOTHING is better than THE SUBMARINER...................
@MERKAMGCLK
@MERKAMGCLK 2 жыл бұрын
Jori love your videos. Thank you. Yes I would highly recommend Doxa and Sinn divers are far superior to a Rolex Sub.
@tommurphy8596
@tommurphy8596 Жыл бұрын
i like Oceaneva - 1000m - the new ones are 3000m WR. One of brands that I know of that actually strapped their watches to a sub and proved they work in the deep.
@getoffmylawn8986
@getoffmylawn8986 2 жыл бұрын
I went to Sinn EZM3F about 4 years ago...best move I ever made. It not only keeps better time than any Rolex I've ever had, (I've owned 4 of them), it's got the very cool copper sulfate capsule window, 200 meter depth rating and extremely good lume, all for around $1600.00 when I bought it. I do still have a great fondness for Rolex, but they've priced themselves out of my reach.
@JeeVes-lj9we
@JeeVes-lj9we 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a DateJust over a year ago (First Rolex) and been on a waiting list for a everyday wear Sub since. I was expecting a year wait. I finally gave in and bought a Breitling superocean 42 for 1/2 the price of a Sub. Yes I know it’s not a sub but it’s still a satisfying and great looking watch and I can close this waiting chapter, retire my everyday G Shock, couple bucks back in my pocket, and move on. Too many great watches available for purchase for me to continue to wait on a made-up list or pay 2x retail.
@wuyeah1980
@wuyeah1980 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on Sub tool or Sub luxury? if anyone is looking for sub tool, really no need to pass spending 5K. Sinn U50, BALL Engineer Hydrocarbon Original 40mm, ORIS 65 (I like initial re-issue) all are good alternative.
@dumberthandirt9912
@dumberthandirt9912 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jory, Enjoy your channel very much. Watching you makes me happy. Being a watch appreciator not a collector I have one watch that I really enjoy, the Marathon Large GSAR. It’s built like a tank and looks good too. Thanks for the information and the entertainment. Keep up the good work!
@votered3135
@votered3135 2 жыл бұрын
If you have a chance, please review the jaquet droz grand seconde SW.
@markjonz
@markjonz 2 жыл бұрын
I would recommend a 5 digit Sub. I have a 14060M which I found in mint condition with B&P for a reasonable price. Or buy a Tudor BB or Pelagos at a multi brand. It’s a great watch and you will get purchase history so you might actually end up with a Sub.
@paultowns9880
@paultowns9880 2 жыл бұрын
Great advice. The 14060M is a lovely watch.
@johnhayes5820
@johnhayes5820 2 жыл бұрын
At 58 and being a sun roasted Aussie, nice easy listening reviews. I've basically worn out my Diver / Scuba watches over the years. 85 Tag pro 1000, 95 Omega pro200. Zodiac ZO8000 44mm.(My first was the 69 Seiko Hibeat 150m Diver in 77 used, loved it to corroded destruction ) . I've realized it's such a personal choice what someone puts on their wrist, all I can say is to never buy on impulse, think about who you are, and not who you think you are, it may save a lot of hard earned cash. I wear the Seiko SPB 143 & 207LE on steel (sweaty 6 months of the year) these days purely as common sense beaters. Cheers from Australia "down under". Johno :)
@FS-zn9xe
@FS-zn9xe 2 жыл бұрын
While it does not hold or increase in value as a Rolex does (because of all the hype), I would go for the Glashütte SeaQ, ideally with the big date function and on the steel bracelet with the built in micro-adjustment.
@neil222222
@neil222222 2 жыл бұрын
Blancpain Bathyscaphe is missing on this list. It's the Diver that outstyles and outclasses the Sub IMO and you can pick up for around $8000. I saw a Sinn U1 SDR up close a few weeks ago and I was very impressed with it. The Squale Dive Onda-B is a decent budget alternative that looks bling....
@micksumo
@micksumo 2 жыл бұрын
Smp300 is an awesome watch for the money. Love the sea q but personally a bit disappointed by the 40hr power reserve. That Cartier is all wrong I'm sorry! Rolex is dead to me!
@Tennisfiles
@Tennisfiles 2 жыл бұрын
SMP is awesome! :)
@davidrosenblum2178
@davidrosenblum2178 2 жыл бұрын
All handsome watches that I'd be pleased to have on my wrist. For dedicated divers there are some great choices that are easier on the wallet. Squale? Glycine?
@danielx40
@danielx40 Жыл бұрын
I have been treated poorly at boutique stores too. Even when I was wearing a gold Rolex in their store asking about the Patek. They just look at me and decided that they don’t like me and didn’t answer me questions about their stock. The other time was in Vegas Omega store at Wynn hotel. The guy was trying to manipulate me to buy a watch with a patronizing attitude, and I never look at Omega the same way again.
@dougharris2875
@dougharris2875 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!.....after watching this video I bought another watch!....the baby tuna frost dial.....great video!
@international_dave
@international_dave 2 жыл бұрын
Sinn U1 is a beast !
@johnfox1596
@johnfox1596 2 жыл бұрын
To add to your comments about boutiques treating people crappy, the Tag Heuer boutique in orlando fl. Walked in with one on my wrist and got treated like a homeless person because i wasnt in a suit and tie 🤷‍♂️
@richdubbya
@richdubbya 2 жыл бұрын
The Blancpain Bathyscaphe is likely a better bet (and more accessible). The ZRC 1904 is another great alternative from the French. The RGM 300 from AMERICA is another great alternative.
@smoking7Ace
@smoking7Ace Жыл бұрын
That Cartier and Blackpain looks really neat.
@exexpat11
@exexpat11 2 жыл бұрын
First - Nice Second - Meh Third - NO! Roman Numerals on a Dive Watch! No! Too busy. Fourth - Seiko is a Seiko is a Seiko. Should have given it it's on Brand Name and a Symbol. Fifth - That Seiko is not just another Seiko. The band is worth more than the watch. Very good. IMPRESSED!
@Norman-mn7gp
@Norman-mn7gp 2 жыл бұрын
I would add to the list; -Ulysse Nardin Diver marine -titoni seascoper 600 -pequignet royale 300 -Bremont Supermarine -Raketa Amphibia
@SillytanN
@SillytanN 2 жыл бұрын
these are just cheaper, not better
@kevjmu
@kevjmu 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately most of watches mentioned will lose 30-50% of their value instantly while Sub will not. As much as love the GS it has it is two big flaws the bracelet sucks there are no micro adjustments and the watch is huge. I think Tudor FXD is best tool dive watch for the money at $3900 if you do not want to get a Sub.
@thomasdavis8117
@thomasdavis8117 2 жыл бұрын
If I never flip then what does resale matter to me? If I wanted an appreciating asset I'd buy stocks, bonds, or gold. A watch is something you consume slowly over time not an asset you hoard
@exexpat11
@exexpat11 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasdavis8117 Perhaps an immediate dip after purchase but some brands will quadruple in a few decades. Ugg! I can only imagine what Rolex watches will be selling for then.
@philipdenner8504
@philipdenner8504 2 жыл бұрын
if you buy a watch simply for it future value then this site is not for you.
@billymania11
@billymania11 2 жыл бұрын
My knockoff Sub gets a lot of attention...from hookers and probably muggers, if I'm not careful. I think I paid 50 bucks for it. Kind of glad I don't have a real one.
@shonmchugh9002
@shonmchugh9002 2 жыл бұрын
Jory great video. I love my Sea Dweller but the diver I wear most is my Seiko SRP777 on a Strapcode Super-J "Louis" bracelet. The offset crown is perfect it doesn't smash into my wrist like other dive watches I've had.
@troymillican9633
@troymillican9633 2 жыл бұрын
I watched this video a month or so ago and was really taken with the Glashutte Original. So now I’m an owner of one-my first luxury watch!
@20reefer
@20reefer 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this while wearing my Sbdx017 Marinemaster. 😎
@Patriot4Life1776
@Patriot4Life1776 2 жыл бұрын
Great line up but I would have also included a Jaeger, Longines or a Jack Turner
@1968jpy
@1968jpy 2 жыл бұрын
I think the standard Seiko Marine Master 300 is a better watch than the Rolex Submariner. Actually I own the Seiko SBDC033 Blumo/Sumo and I think that’s a better watch than the Rolex Submariner.
@martinogrady8577
@martinogrady8577 25 күн бұрын
Check out the Enrivia 1000mm diver at 300 bucks. I own a sea dweller and this blows it away I love it. Crazy
@antman674
@antman674 2 жыл бұрын
Me: "Oh, cool! I wonder what interesting affordable alternitives he has. Maybe San Martin??" *opens with $8500 watch* Me: "I'm clearly in the wrong room."
@Kev_Walsh_Ez_Day
@Kev_Walsh_Ez_Day 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s see a Vostok episode. I live in Japan and am team seiko but ….but I have like 20 Vostoks I love to mod them and wear them. I would love to see your take on them 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
@RandyWanat
@RandyWanat 2 жыл бұрын
He's done at least two episodes about Vostok Amphibia.
@a_z.tazzzfan8497
@a_z.tazzzfan8497 2 жыл бұрын
How about doing a vid on better alternatives for the DEEPSEA SEA-DWELLER for those of us that prefer a larger, better fitting wrist presence? The Cartier, Grand Seiko & possibly your MarineMaster quartz are a nice start but, how about some alternatives that can compete with the DEEPSEA SEA-DWELLER depth rating? BTW - totally enjoyed this Submariner alternative vid⌚😎👍
@BeyondWrittenWords
@BeyondWrittenWords 2 жыл бұрын
10:22 this is outrageous, they actually have and sell the watches in that store? Not 8 yr waiting list to sniff the watch?
@valengreymoon5623
@valengreymoon5623 2 жыл бұрын
The Seiko Arnie, with a steel shroud, Strapco bracelet and MarineMaster clasp makes a good SBBN031 twin, for half the price. Though if you want something you can actually take diving without any stress, a Casio Duro is thee thing.
@claudiourrutiaaranguiz9281
@claudiourrutiaaranguiz9281 2 жыл бұрын
Casio Duro deserves more love. Just replace the original rubber strap.
@valengreymoon5623
@valengreymoon5623 2 жыл бұрын
@@claudiourrutiaaranguiz9281 I have seen factory bracelets for them on Ebay.
@chrisboggs4262
@chrisboggs4262 2 жыл бұрын
I just don't get this whole "there are no Submariners out there!" - I found one last weekend at a local MALL...at the ZALES...for $15k. It was a basic model in black/stainless with a date complication...but there it was. Guy hinted he'd probably take $14k for it. What am I missing here?
@Baruch-Hashem
@Baruch-Hashem 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, we have different taste, but I appreciate your persspective. If you are a diver, look at the Seiko Monster family. Uses the difference to pay for the trip. Cheers ! Nothing like looking at a watch you took on a cave dive when you are working to remind you of what you could be doing.
@steftedja
@steftedja 2 жыл бұрын
Love that Glashute🥰
@wrenside
@wrenside 2 жыл бұрын
when looking at the Cartier, i think of the accutron ad: it's not a timepiece, it's a conversation piece. yeah the design is a bit crazed - compared to the tight design margins of most tool watches - but i like it!!
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow 2 жыл бұрын
I kind think that you overlooked a big one. I'm talking about the Tissot Seastar 2000 Professional.
@WatchRob
@WatchRob 2 жыл бұрын
I tried on the Glashutte at an AD in Chicago and it was fantastic. I only wish it had the movement with 100 hour power reserve and display caseback of its bigger brother the, panorama date.
@adiefatlady
@adiefatlady 2 жыл бұрын
Grand seiko boutique in London always pleasant to visit and very helpful. I don't dress up either and always welcoming.
@ChristopherNegroni
@ChristopherNegroni 2 жыл бұрын
More of these lists 😬 great video.
@Tenebris_Sint
@Tenebris_Sint 2 жыл бұрын
Sinn: I have a U1000 and 756 Diapal (not a diver), also U1/U2, T1/T2. Doxa, Omega, AP Blancpain Bathy still the best Sub replacement that works with everything. I love my IWC Aquatimer 2000 3536.
@06lanevomr
@06lanevomr 2 жыл бұрын
What I do is I dress super casual wearing an entry level watch to a boutique. That's when you know the true side of the sales rep. and management.
@paulrs3551
@paulrs3551 2 жыл бұрын
great work mate,I always enjoy your enthusiasm and content.
@NickNick-id8sb
@NickNick-id8sb 2 жыл бұрын
If you're a watch enthusiast you KNOW that there are many dive watches better than the Submariner. Better looks, better specs, better price and most important always accessible. Now if you are one of those people who lust over the Submariner my advice is stay in the list and get your beloved grail watch. If you're normal do the research and find which diving watch suits you best. I'm sure you will.
@silingdeng3155
@silingdeng3155 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, I couldn't stop laughing at Jory's JLC experience because it's so true! I had the exact same thing happen to me at the JLC boutique in New York City, and I was there to service my 18k rose gold Master Calendar!
@heavyd9154
@heavyd9154 2 жыл бұрын
The Cartier is a Knockout. Black on Silver is da Bomb. My favorite diver next to anything Seiko
@ccw5886
@ccw5886 Жыл бұрын
I have the 16610 Sub and the Go sea q panorama date, the bigger brother. Both exceptional . I would postulate, having owned my sub ref for 32 years that nothing beats the pre ceramics. The Go is exceptional too, and if it was a choice between the new sub and the GO I would go for the GO. ....Why? Nobody knows what it is, it flys so low under the radar and its a classic in the making.
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