5 ELECTRIC CELLO COMPARISON! Review Yamaha Silent Cello 210, Yamaha 110, NS Design & Cecelio cellos!

[@user-xv4he4mt4x]

I like the way you do the jump cut between cellos while playing. It gives me clear idea of how they sounded compare to each other. ❤️

[@Dorette_Roos]

Thank you! I am so happy you like it :)

[@Middlenamejane]

So true. Very helpful

[@Dorette_Roos]

@@Middlenamejane Thank you! I am so happy to hear it is helpful!

[@kobayashimaruu1]

I also just bought the black Cecelio not long ago because I was looking to learn and see if I could get into playing without breaking the bank lol. Unfortunately, so many other reviewers are quick to bash it without really giving it a fair chance and comparison to other electric cellos, so I just wanted to thank you for being kind and honest about it! I realized going in that it was not going to sound as good as a Yamaha or NS because of the price jump, but it's rather disheartening to see others hold it to the same high standards as a cello that costs hundreds or thousands of dollars more. :/ It means a lot to see someone be honest about its purpose of being a student/beginner cello and you made it sound nearly just as good as the others with your skill! :) Thank you again for this video, it was very encouraging and made me feel better about my choice and about learning to play in general. Someday I hope to upgrade as well, but I am happy with what I have now lol.

[@Dorette_Roos]

Hi Kobayashi-Maru! Thank you so much for the message. I am so happy to hear this!! :) Enjoying to play is the purpose of music!

[@Nachtuil36]

There must be a problem with the actual KZbin sound coming out: what I heard was quite the opposite ! The red Cecelio sounded very much acoustic while the NS sounded completely muffled. From using several electric violins I experienced, a lot depends on the pickups plus using IR devices, like the VSound !

[@adorethered]

I think considering the price difference tells you an awful lot about the sound quality differences. That being said I was really impressed with the cecilios price difference considered. There's a decent sized difference in the audio quality. However when I looked up the higher end yamaha it was around 2500 on amazon. The cecilios are all around 420 dollars on amazon. So considering it's basically 2000 dollars more expensive than the cecilio I'm inclined to go with the cecilio. Primarily because I don't feel that the sound quality (especially in the sound card examples since I'm a recording engineer and that's the most important demo for my job type) is not a 2000 dollar difference. To my ears it sounds like the difference between a 1000 dollar prs se electric guitar, vs a 4000 dollar prs custom 24 electric guitar. Yes there's a difference there. But not a difference that makes the ultimate price difference worth it based on audio alone. Now the playing feel and comfort factors are very important and should not be ignored. However until I have the opportunity to play both and make that specific comparison I have no opinion on that. But for now since I'm going to be learning cello I'm going to be going with the Cecilio! Thank you so much for a direct comparison and explanation of your perspective as a trained cellist!

[@Dorette_Roos]

I absolutely agree! And as a sound engineer you can probably play with the sound once recorded. I am really please to know that was helpful! If you ever need some remote recording done - I have a basic set up at home!

[@Kenji1685]

Thanks!! The immediate transition is very helpful.

[@Dorette_Roos]

My pleasure!

[@randycousineau9274]

Hi I’ve just started Cello and have been challenged to move it with it’s heavy case. We have a cottage and do trips during the summer months. I am convinced that one of these cellos would work to resolve some of these issues…thank you for your help and keep on being beautiful. Cheers

[@DoretteRoos]

My pleasure! Thank you Randy!

[@randycousineau9274]

Because of your in-depth video I’ve purchased the Yamaha SV50. Cheers Randy

[@DoretteRoos]

@@randycousineau9274 I am so happy to hear this was helpful! Enjoy :) And let me know if any questions come up.

[@guystoker7468]

Hi Dorette, thank you for this very clear, thorough, and honest review. I’m a composer and professional pianist, but I have for a long time wanted to learn the cello, and because I live in an apartment, the ability to practice as a total beginner without disturbing the unappreciative neighbours 😂 is an important factor. My eyes were really opened to the electric cello by a superb duo who guest on river boats in the Mosel area of Germany. ❤

[@Dorette_Roos]

Hi Guy! Such a pleasure :) Thank you for the message. Wow that sounds awesome to perform on a river boat in Germany!

[@heinrichjansevanrensburg3828]

This is so amazing! So helpful and well put together. You are very talented! 🍃🧠

[@Dorette_Roos]

Thank you so much!

[@mt-wl5fm]

First of all, I very much like the details of your expression or phrasing, such as your double stop in bar 4 of the suite no. 1 minuet (at 2:45). This sounds gorgeous to me, and I could listen to it over and again. And your sound on the tenuto a and d notes in bar 8 (at 2:52) to me bears a lightness and majesty and volume at the same time. Awesome. Being a pianist tinkering with the idea of starting to play an electric cello, your video was most helpful to me in that you demonstrated how the Yamaha and NS instruments are able to bring forth a wonderful sound. Thank you.

[@DoretteRoos]

Thank you so much! I am so happy to hear this :) Let me know if you have any questions!

[@nicholastam581]

Really thorough review. I currently have the Yamaha SVC-50 and I've been wanting to upgrade for a long time and this was super helpful😊

[@Dorette_Roos]

So happy to hear that! 🔥🌹☺️

[@nicholastam581]

@@KJ_Summer_JustTupelo I've had it for nearly 5 years now and the pick up is starting to have a little bit of fuzz but I've found that to be the case in a lot of the yamaha electric cellos. The tone of the svc 110 is better than the svc50 but the tone can be improved with pedals. Overall just wanting to get something new. Svc50 is a good start for learning to work with electrics but after a while everyone will move on. Hope that helps😊

[@MsCellobass]

Great review! Loved the ‘Despacito’ version! I have the NS

[@Dorette_Roos]

Thank you! So happy to hear you like the review :)

[@heatherrose9746]

Hi Dorette- Thank you so much for being fair and balanced in this review. I'm a beginner who knows next to nothing about what to buy and this was helpful in making both short term and long term buying plans. I've researched a lot on this, and your video was by far the most fair and comprehensive. Thanks again for being you.- HR

[@Dorette_Roos]

Hi Heather! Thank you so much for you kind words. I am so happy to hear it was helpful! Enjoy your cello journey 🤩

[@kamekichikoubou]

Hi You are playing the cello very happily. I also enjoy watching it. Thank you for the good video:)

[@Dorette_Roos]

Thank you so much for the kind words and for watching!

[@JonNeimeister]

Thanks so much for this! The clean and diverse sound comparisons helped me out a ton. :D

[@Dorette_Roos]

Such a pleasure Jon! I am very happy to hear it was helpful

[@1celloheaven]

Simply one of the best, if not the best, comparison videos I have seen...albeit I'm interested particularly in cellos I suspect that Dorette's comparison format and presentation style would apply well to any product. Brava Ms Roos !

[@DoretteRoos]

Thank you so much for the kind words J W!

[@1celloheaven]

@@DoretteRoos All merited Dorette.

[@rolandnagtegaal6532]

Someone or something is quietly snoring or breathing in the background. I heard it one of your other videos as well. Sounds like a dreaming dog. Great overview. I bought the Yamaha svc 210 for my son.

[@Dorette_Roos]

Hi Roland :) Haha yes that right - it is my little yorkie who is sleeping next to me! Best choice to have made with the svc 210!

[@TheUberSchattenjager]

this was just what I needed! Bravo!!

[@Dorette_Roos]

My pleasure!

[@iceberg220]

Thank you, Dorette! the best video on the subject; new subscriber, here! :)

[@Dorette_Roos]

Thank you so much!

[@frost273]

Thank you. Not only I find it useful, I enjoyed watching 👏

[@Dorette_Roos]

Ah thank you :)

[@lilymohsye]

They all sound beautiful! Some i like better in certain conditions, but overall it’d be difficult for me to pick! They all sound so fantastic!

[@Dorette_Roos]

Thank you Lily! I agree - they all have different strengths

[@C0urante]

This is SO informative. Thank you!

[@davidbee8178]

!00% agree with you Dorette that the Yamaha SVC 110 sounds more like an acoustic cello than the others in this comparison. My acoustic has Larsen Magnacore Arioso strings on it which changed its character for the WAY better and I'd like to see what those strings would sound like on the Yamaha 110 along with a higher quality bridge - my luthier also has a lot of praise for Thomastik Versum Solos and just for fun I think I'd put those on the Yamaha 110. I bet you might be even MORE impressed :-)THANKS for your VERY helpful review!!!

[@Dparrey]

Thanks so much for making this video. Obviously it was a lot of work. But very few people are in such a unique position to have so many of what is essentially a niche instrument. I definitely love the SVC-210, but the 110 but about 1000 dollars less here is so competitive. I'm surprised the 110 doesn't allow you to remove the frame. One thing I wasn't thinking of also, was that they come with their own bag/case hence that'll save quite a bit of money too over a traditional acoustic in a similar price range. Thanks again!

[@Dorette_Roos]

It was my pleasure! Thank you for watching. I totally agree - it would be so great if the 110 would have a removable frame!

[@ytchen1747]

Thank you for the great comparison, especially taking it in context of the. price differences and their utility to different segments of artists (and aspiring artists!). Can you comment on what type of amp setup you would need for the lower end electric cello you reviewed here? Thank you!

[@Dorette_Roos]

Hi! I use a Mark Acoustic Bass Amp and found it to be the best sound quality! Picture of it here: a1sound.co.za/markacoustic-ac-101h-aac125008?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwzIK1BhAuEiwAHQmU3r-nKB_mzSYDW5qWSYr_Geb_xzL9lR-69EvOzIEVwUo5QBg4Fq6fkRoC0UgQAvD_BwE

[@NealJett]

Hi! Great Comparison! I think the unbranded red S one sounds the most realistic, I love it! Could you link me to exactly where you bought it please? I would LOVE to buy one! Thanks so much in advance! :D

[@Dorette_Roos]

Thank you so much! That one was borrowed to me for the review - so I did not buy it myself - however I do see they are available on Ebay and Amazon. Goodluck and enjoy! Let me know how you find it :)

[@NealJett]

Thanks so much! :) I typed into eBay and Google "S shaped red electric cello" but nothing is coming up, just other electric cellos. What did you type in to find it? Also, might you happen to know where the original owner of that cello that was lent to you bought theirs at? and perhaps even which seller? Thanks again! ​@@Dorette_Roos

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

If you're restringing the SV-210 or NS Design I recommend getting a String winder (Bass version for the SV-210 and Guitar version on the NS Design).

[@Dorette_Roos]

Good suggestion. Otherwise it takes forever!

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@Dorette_Roos Here's one for the NS Design:www.daddario.com/products/accessories/care-maintenance-tools/restring-tools/pro-winder/ & this will be for the Yamaha:www.daddario.com/products/accessories/care-maintenance-tools/restring-tools/pro-winder-bass/

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@Dorette_Roos Helicore Strings are a fantastic match for Electric Cellos (NS Design Cello Strings by D'addario are rebranded Medium Tension Helicore 4/4 Scale Cello Strings that also have for extended Range Cellos a High E & a Low F) or for just about every Cello cause the sound is a good balance between Complexity & Clarity. The thinner gauge (w/ the Stranded Steel Core) will make a big difference in playability, & the response is so fast that you'd be like "Everything is there".

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@Dorette_Roos The Yamaha SVC-210 actually sounds like an Acoustic Cello cause it's semi-hollow bodied, meaning there's a little resonating chamber picked up by the Piezo Pickup (aka Contact mic) to make it sound more real. Friction Pegs are in fact so outdated that Tuning & restringing is a pain in the neck, especially w/ Fine tuners which are rather heavy. So w/ Geared tuning keys (the Double Bass Type Tuning keys designed for Cello) not only allow you to get rid of the Fine Tuners from the Tailpiece (or swap it out), but by pulling out a String Winder (like you'd do w/ a Guitar, Bass, or any Fretted Instrument), this will make Re-stringing & tuning a Snap. It reminds me of this:kzbin.info/www/bejne/inrNimqaoJ2bfdE Restringing a Clavinet, where that instead of weaving the Strings through the Yarn which gets rather crusty, they use Clavigel which makes restringing a Snap.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@Dorette_Roos The SVC-210 is way easier to carry than an Acoustic Cello because it's a Travel Electric Cello that folds up. A Boss Kantana Air will allow you to play anywhere you go plus it's wireless so the Transmitter makes it even more compact, & sits in a special charging jack. Restringing & Tuning w/ Friction Pegs is a pain in the neck, but w/ geared tuners & a string winder restringing & tuning becomes a snap.

[@AGC828]

Terrific video. Well done. Covered a lot briefly. Hard to do. Liked your demos's of the 5 e-cello's. I'm sure celloists on the fence about trying an electric will change their minds. Whether this is for income or fun...worth considering....

[@Dorette_Roos]

Thank you Anderson!

[@derickellisster]

This is a great channel. It's recorded well, articulate and interesting. You're a really good musician.

[@Dorette_Roos]

Thank you so much! 🌹

[@bradmohr8098]

Thank you for comparing these. It is helpful when looking to buy one. There is definitely an annoying level of clipping in the audio portion of this video, however. You may want to lower the microphone input level when recording in the future.

[@Dorette_Roos]

My pleasure! This was one of my first videos. I have gotten an improved audio interface in the meantime :) So hopefully next round will be better.

[@emsysuffs]

The second and third are my absolute favourites

[@Dorette_Roos]

Great choices :)

[@ApexHumanity]

Excellent review! Thanks for the information.

[@Dorette_Roos]

Such a pleasure! Thank you for watching!

[@danielhstan9957]

Very informative! Thanks for this!

[@Dorette_Roos]

My pleasure!

[@seasaltVC]

I never knew that svc 110 and 210 sounds so different

[@seasaltVC]

Can you please do a video of how to play the cello standing up? I am over 180 tall, is it impossible for me to play it that way?

[@Dorette_Roos]

Yes I would be happy to do a video of how to play standing up! Yoi can definitely stand even if you are tall :)

[@seasaltVC]

Thanks so much!

[@Dorette_Roos]

@@seasaltVC Here you go :) I just posted it! kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2jceWyoZdGgrK8

[@Dorette_Roos]

As I mention in the video - most cellists need to get an end-pin extension to bring the cello up to a comfortable height to stand. The end pin that comes with an electric cello is not long enough - unless you are quite short - like me. I would suggest contacting a luthier or steel works company to make an extra long one - rather than adding a second piece on to the existing endpin - this could make it less stable. One of my colleagues is about 2 m tall and has an extra long endpin that works well for her!

[@eliaswendel7257]

this video is sooooo helpful - thank you!

[@Dorette_Roos]

Such a pleasure! :)

[@ddduggan254]

Great reviews. Although I have been looking at a silent cello, I'm currently in COVID 19 quarantine in a government Facility (Hotel) and really wishing I had one now. i really liked the professional way you dealt with different aspects. Maybe consider a review of the Luis Clark and Mezzo-forte carbon fiber cellos? - I haven't found one yet and your approach would be perfect. Lots of people need this kind of review style for the Carbon Fiber cellos. BTW, this vdo confirmed my decision to go for the Yamaha SVC110.:)

[@Dorette_Roos]

Thank you so much! I would love to review the carbon fiber cellos if only I can get my hand on them! Stay strong in quarantine and enjoy your Yamaha ✨

[@enterprise59]

What music is at time stamp 4:18 ? Like the name of the music? Would love a copy of that with this instrument.

[@Dorette_Roos]

The song I am playing is an instrumental cover of Despacito by artist Luis Fonsi

[@enterprise59]

@@Dorette_Roos You played it MUCH better than some of the covers I've listened too! LOVE the sound of the Cello!

[@Dorette_Roos]

@@enterprise59 Thank you so much 🥰

[@lievre-cormierthierry6772]

Thanks very much for this video which will save us time and money !

[@Dorette_Roos]

It is a pleasure! Thank you for watching :)

[@flrn84791]

Great reviews! The only thing missing would have been mentioning the different NS Design models, I guess yours is a NXTa? The WAV comes much cheaper, and the CR much more expensive, but the sound quality is much better.

[@Dorette_Roos]

Hi Florian! Thank you! I totally agree. Unfortunately I only had access to the one NXTa model, but would love to try them all when I have a chance.

[@vinvanveen]

Thank you!!! This was really super helpful! I went with the 210 :-)

[@Dorette_Roos]

Ah so happy to hear! That is awesome - you will be very happy :)

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Dorette Roos // Electric Cello The Yamaha Electric Cellos are great for beginners cause they have an Ergonomic design to keep the instrument in playing position.

[@Dorette_Roos]

Good point!

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@Dorette_Roos They also have geared tuners like a Guitar because friction pegs are rather delicate and obsolete. They do make Guitar style machine head tuners for Cellos that have a robust look to them due to their knobs pointing down from the head stock at a 90 degree angle.

[@jantonisito]

Nice comparison. I like 110 and NS tone the best.

[@Dorette_Roos]

Thank you for watching Tom!

[@brandonskoubo5176]

Thank you, this was the exact comparative review I needed of the different styles and brands of electric cello. Really cut through the noise to focus on what matters most: how do they sound? how do they feel? how do they transport? what do they cost? I just moved to an apartment complex, so I've joined the market for an instrument I can practice after hours. Add to that the musician buddies that would love to help me gear up with all manner of amps and pedal effects. After hearing the cellos side by side and your descriptions of their different pros & cons I think I'm leaning toward the Yamaha 210, for the still-warm but versatile sound, and the natural points of body contact. I think the bare minimalist NS takes it a bit too far for my taste. Compact transport is a bonus! Yamaha's product description also mentions a line-in port for CD/MP3 recorded accompaniment, even bigger bonus! So I can literally plug in a favorite recording or a bandmate's demo, and play along in my headphones?! Anyway, of course I want the priciest of the lot.

[@Dorette_Roos]

Hi Brandon! I am so happy to hear it was helpful! The Yamaha 210 is definitely my favourite too and you can't go wrong. Enjoy it! Let me know if you have questions or want me to play/demonstrate anything on it for you.

[@douglasmckay5968]

Hi great review on this cello but I have not a great budget would you like to recommend me a good one to get

[@kissingen007]

I have an NS bass, which I like and which I play con arco and pizz. However, in your demo, the NS-cello was for me very disappointing. I liked the 2nd Yamaha and the silvery one best in your presentation.

[@camonthecoast]

Great review 😊

[@Dorette_Roos]

Thank you Cameron!

[@autisticmachine8529]

Thanks for this VERY NICE review, 100% clear to me waw. Is the 110 frame around is removable? To be more transportable? And where can I buy one in canada?

[@Dorette_Roos]

My pleasure! Thank you for watching. No sadly the 110 frame is NOT removable. This is the only draw back to the instrument. Only the Yamaha 210 frame can be folded away.

[@Dorette_Roos]

I would get in touch with Yamaha directly and they will give you a supplier in your area where you can buy from. ca.yamaha.com/en/lang.html @YamahaCanadaMusic

[@iggychan9200]

super mega helpful!! thank you!!!

[@DoretteRoos]

My pleasure Iggy!

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Those fractional Sized Acoustic Cellos sound alot better if you add Realist Copperhead Piezo Pickups to them and plug them into an amp because due to their smaller bodies they sound rather Tinny & Childish acoustically. Geared tuners would really be another good upgrade because they're easier to turn, plus you don't need fine tuners on that tailpiece anymore. What if NS Design also made an Acoustic Cello that plays like an Electric Cello? Then you could play all the fun things in an unplugged Setting.

[@Dorette_Roos]

This is true :)

[@Robyn19fnq]

Thank you for your review, I enjoyed your perspective on these cellos. I would have liked you to comment on the 'feel' of the strings, meaning bridge height, pressure required (as a beginner), and also do they come in different sizes, for different people sizes? Thanks again ... and yes, in Australian regional centres it's very difficult to find a store to try one.

[@Dorette_Roos]

Thank you for the comments Robyn! It is a pleasure! The Yamaha cellos both come with a set of Helicore strings. The Cecelio cello strings are unspecified - but definitely a cheaper set. I like the NS custom strings - they sound good on those cellos. I would actually recommend buying a really good quality set and putting those on for a warmer sound. In regards to bridge height - the NS strings are set up very close to the fingerboard for easy playing, but for me this is tricky as I am use to putting pressure on the strings to create a bigger sound with my acoustic cello - so the habit spill into my electric playing. The other cello have a similar bridge set up to the average height on any acoustic cello. Of course this can be adjusted by a luthier to your preference - same as with an acoustic cello. On the electric cello - you have amplified sound which requires less physical pressure - if that makes sense :) Easy does it. The cellos are only made in regular full size. Hope that was a helpful reply :) X

[@Robyn19fnq]

@@Dorette_Roos Thank you Dorette, I really appreciate your reviews as a professional. My wish list includes an electric cello ... or my dream. :)

[@ichiroku]

only seeing this now, thank you for the comparisons! i have a question: in the section with acoustic amps and no effects, the yamaha cellos have reverb in their sound. Is this something you can adjust via knobs/button? or is this the default sound (due to the resonating chamber) and there is no truly flat sound option available?

[@zorank7513]

great video, great musician . this helped me pick the 110; ordered and on its way ! which do you find better for electric cellos, acoustic or base amps and is there one your recommend?

[@Dorette_Roos]

Thank you Zoran! So happy to hear this :) I use this amp and I love it www.thomann.de/gb/dv_mark_acoustic_guitar_amplifiers.html

[@laurelbrochu6114]

Great review. Thank you so much! The only thing missing that I would really like to know is which model NS Design you're using. The CR, NXTa, or the WAV ?

[@Dorette_Roos]

Hi Laurel! Thank you so much :) Ah yes I forgot to mention that! It is the NXT model.

[@jasonmelo1974]

@@Dorette_Roos but in another video you said it has no battery so how can it be the active version?

[@Dorette_Roos]

@@jasonmelo1974 Hi Jason! Yeah that is correct :) The NXTa Series features battery-free active output electronics. So you just plug in the quarter inch jack and play! No batteries, no turning on of the instrument, no charging. How cool right?

[@lucasecellofuntimes]

The CR sounds much better than NXT and any of these IMO but also more in the $3,000 range

[@MichaelBegelspacher]

Thanks for your great Video.

[@Dorette_Roos]

Thank you for taking the time to watch!

[@kgkfhvghfjkhf8688]

Thanks so much for your videos. What amplifier are you using in this video?

[@augmentduo3662]

Such a pleasure! I am using a Mark Acoustic Amp like this one: www.thomann.de/gb/dv_mark_ac_101h.htm

[@user-kx5fs9jy1g]

Thanks for the video, but which NS design are you reviewing? The CR4, NXTa, or WAV Series?

[@Dorette_Roos]

Hey! This is the NXTa

[@iraochs6154]

This was incredibly helpful and I'm looking forward to your upcoming video comparing the two Yamahas! I'm looking for something where I can do some direct line recording either early in the morning or late at night, and use a lot of effects. Do any of these stand out for you for that sort of use? Thanks so much. :)

[@Dorette_Roos]

Hi Ira! Thank you for the comment. I am so happy to hear it was helpful! I would suggest either the Yamaha 110 ( the most acoustic sounding even into a direct line/audio face/sound card) or the NS Design - as this is the quietest one of the lot, but sound a bit more metallic into the audio face. This probably won't matter if you are adding lots of effects. The NS is harder to get comfortable with. Let me know what you decided x

[@elwrongo]

Wow the amp test really sorted the wheat from the chaff!

[@Dorette_Roos]

Right? I totally agree :)

[@ProtipoAl]

Fantastic video and very helpful! Can you please let me know if headphones can be used with the NS? This is somewhat confusing as it has only one output, compared to the Yamahas which have both line and headphone outputs. Also something interesting that I just found out about the NS cellos is that they can be used with a traditional end pin stand that provides all the familiar contact points. However, NS sell this as an extra.

[@Dorette_Roos]

Hi Protipo! Thank you so much for the comment! You are correct. The NS Design NXTa does not have a headphone jack - or at least not that I used or found :) The only output/input is for a quarter inch jack cable - not sue if you have an adaptor to a normal headphone jack if this can be used for headphones? I wonder. I didn't try this :) The Yamaha has a quarter inch jack as well as a headphone jack. I would be keen to try the NS end pin option to feel what this is like!

[@justcellin]

Hi Dorette, this is the NXTa you're using? Do you have experience of the CR range as I love the sound of the Yamaha 110, but everything I read suggests the CR4 sounds better, but struggling to find a really good side by side comparison!!!

[@Dorette_Roos]

Yes it is the NXTa. Ah I wish I could give advice, but unfortunately I have not actually got my hands on the CR range yet x

[@tylersterling1786]

What acoustic amp are you using?! It sounds AMAZING!!

[@augmentduo3662]

Thank you Tyler! It is a Mark Bass Acoustic Amp www.markbass.it/product/ac-101-h/

[@tylersterling1786]

@@augmentduo3662 Thank you so much! And do you have a recommendation for headphones if you want to be able to play quietly at home, especially with a track? Obviously the sound quality is everything and I know this can make a tremendous difference. I've heard others playing the same SC-210 you are playing here and it doesn't sound half as good as yours because your amp is so good. I'd like headphones that allow the same quality sound. I think the main effect you are using is available through the instrument itself, without an effect from the amp, right?

[@klausmader-amort518]

Verry verry good to get an orientation! Thank you.

[@Dorette_Roos]

My pleasure! Thank you for watching

[@totallycarmad1735]

Great video. So helpful. I love the sound of the Yam 110, but on all the cello Facebook groups I asked about most acoustic sound, most people coming out in favour of NSD CR range. As you’re well used to them both, if you wanted something that could sound acoustic with a large band on stage, but be used solo with loopers and effects, which would you choose?

[@ericoschmitt]

I'd choose the cheapest, an ipad, the FabFilter bundle, and time to build your own sound out of whatever you have. It is generally easy to make a harsher/metallic instrument sound mellower than get a nasal/dull sounding one and make it richer (such as the brown one that has no body in this video). Tbh I liked how the red one sounds, and considering price I'd try that one, or any second hand cheap one first. Acoustic cellos can vary a lot in sound too. About mixing... I only have acoustic for now, and a Schatten piezo pickup. Without mixing it doesn't sound very nice, and actually the Schatten for bass sounds better when you put under the wing of the cello bridge. Since I bought the cello one after trying what the bassist had... Go to FabFilter Q, cut the frequencies below low C, lower the high end with a shelf, add a dynamic limiter to the low end (piezos are too punchy) - you can do this inside the FabFilter equalizer, and add minimal reverb (close, clear, 50ms, 25~30% mixed with non-reverb sound), thats already 90% good. After this you just tweak until you find it. With the dynamic dots you can even fix things such as open A string being too metallic or whatever. This will give you a very good 'base sound' to which you can later add other effects such as more reverb if you feel like it. FabFilter skills is much more important than which electric instrument you have IMO.

[@Aardvark892]

the NS Design sounds muffled in all examples, and the Cecillio sounds a bit tinny. Question, though... did you use the stock strings that come with these cellos or switch them with a good set?

[@Dorette_Roos]

Hey! I used the stock strings on the instruments

[@JeffreySaxophoneTallNewton]

I say the Yamahas win on sound, hands down. The NS sounds thin and hollow by comparison ... a nice sound, but more like a guitar than a cello. I have the Yamaha silent classical guitar, which has a similar design to the Yamaha 110 cello, so I'm surprised that the frame does not collapse, as do the bouts on their guitar (for a small, compact case). You mentioned the 210 is more "compact" than the 110 - would you say the sound "spreads" more on the 110? That would be analogous to my Selmer Mark VI tenor sax (compact, with "core") versus my 1924 Conn New Wonder tenor sax - the sound is huge, opaque, and fills the whole room, whereas the Selmer "throws" the sound, much like an opera singer does.

[@alexvelez4841]

Hi Dorette! What do you think of the Stagg ECL 44 electric cello? I would love to get a Yamaha but it's a bit pricey for me at a moment.

[@Dorette_Roos]

Hi Alex! Thank you for the message. I have actually not played a Stagg electric cello before, so I cannot give you a 'first hand experience' reply :) But by the looks and price of it - it seems to be more or less in a similar category as the Cecelio cellos. What would your main purpose be for the instrument? x

[@alexandral6218]

Hi Dorette! Thank you so much for this video, it really helped! I went for a secondhand Yamaha svc50 (beginner here). My question is, what bows do you generally recommend for electric cellos?

[@Dorette_Roos]

Hi Alexandra! I hope you are enjoying your cello! Any decent cello bow will be great for an electric instrument. You don't need a particularly heavy bow for electric instruments.

[@d3us3xmach1na5]

That black Cecelio is like a couple hundred bucks and when paired with my Spark amp it actually sounds incredible. Like blow your mind good for $300 😂

[@Dorette_Roos]

Awesome! Exactly - a great quality amp is essential! So happy to hear this :)

[@danielpinilla5774]

Your video helped me out so much. Thank you for this comparisons. Just one question: does it change the sound if you use different bow? Like, in a normal cello? :3

[@DoretteRoos]

Such a pleasure Daniel :) Different bows won't make any significant change to the sound no. If you try different strings it will be more noticeable.

[@shaofanlai6614]

Great review! Is SVC more silent than the NS design? I got a NS design but it still very loud when playing the A string and wondering whether to switch to SVC

[@Dorette_Roos]

Hi Shaofan Thank you so much! No its not - the SVC are slightly more resonant than the NS when unplugged. The SVC 110 particularly so. The SVC 210 is a bit quieter but very similar to NS. Maybe you can try a "soft" gauge A string? That should give less sound. Let me know!

[@shaofanlai6614]

@@Dorette_Roos Thanks for the quick reply and suggestion!! I am considering a Artino Cello Mute. I will let you know how it works with e-cello when it comes!

[@Dorette_Roos]

@@shaofanlai6614 Perfect!

[@ProtipoAl]

@@shaofanlai6614 Did the mute work on the electric cello? Have you tried it yet?

[@shaofanlai6614]

@@ProtipoAl Aha sorry I forgot to update that. I brought the Artino Cello Practice Mute and it fits very tight to the bridge of NXTa. The bridge of NXTa is thicker than the classical one so I would recommend a flexible rubber mute instead. As for the sound, it did reduce the resonance a little bit but changes the tone as well.

[@MigueMigue0916]

Hi ... I like the sound of each one ... but for the price, I really like the S-shaped ebony cecilio ... I feel that its sound is more organic and rustic ... I loved this video .. . and the cellist looks like an angel ... she's lovely... DESPACITO, QUIERO RESPIRAR TU CUELLO DESPACITO... PASITO A PASITO 🎼🎵🎶🎻🎵🥁

[@Dorette_Roos]

Ah thank you Migue!🌹🎻 I find it so interesting to hear the different opinions and how everyone seem to have different favourite! Thank you for the comment!

[@JeffreySaxophoneTallNewton]

You said it is easier to play "high up there" (high pitched notes) on the NS Design ... more so than the Yamahas. Why? Thanks, and nice playing!

[@DoretteRoos]

Hey Jeffrey! Thank you for the comment. With the NS Design - one does not have a left side shoulder on the instrument - so you can easily move the arm (and hand) up to the high registers without lifting your elbow or changing the hand position. Making it more comfortable and easier to play very high passages. Does this explanation make sense? :)

[@JeffreySaxophoneTallNewton]

@@DoretteRoos Hi Dorette! Yes, it does, and thanks for the reply!. I'm 6'6", and tried the Yamaha and NS in a store the other day (unplugged, though). All were in stands, though, so the shoulder issue was not present. I thought the NS felt easier / better to play (not being an actual cellist here; I'm a saxophone player).

[@MGBode]

What strings were used, all the same brand type?

[@Dorette_Roos]

I just kept the stock strings that were supplied for each instrument

[@AmarothEng]

It makes me quite sad that the cheapest electric cellos seem to be 3 times the price of the cheapest acoustic ones. I have been a guitar player for 10 years now and wanted to try something different out, but given the fact that I live in a flat, I can't buy an acoustic one for sure. And buying an elecdtric one for such prices seems ridiculous to me if I am not even sure if cello is the right thing for me. I have a huge respect for the instrument, but it needs to be more accessible to beginners who can't go with acoustic imho.

[@elwrongo]

What about playability, action, harmonics, tuning etc?

[@Dorette_Roos]

Yes definitely topics to talk about! I discussed a bit more of those in my Electric vs Acoustic video. Check it out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5bZnZWNpb9lqdU&lc=UgwZfgM7cMmkZiVdbxN4AaABAg I do talk a bit about the playability in the above video: In general I find the Cecelio very uncomfortable. The Yamaha cellos are the most accurately designed and therefore most comfortable too. The NS is just challenging to get use to - as it does not have any of the usual points of reference.

[@Dorette_Roos]

Sorry I missed your comment!

[@SillyCatGrape]

What acoustic amp do you use here?

[@Dorette_Roos]

Hi Andrew, I have a Mark Acoustic Amp. Really great quality! www.thomann.de/be/dv_mark_ac_101h.htm kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKump2SwmJeIpZY

[@chrisonthecourse4247]

What do I do if I want my cello to sound METAL

[@Dorette_Roos]

Ooh yes! Lots of cool effect to do this - either with a sound edit or pedals. And of course 'hard' strings will also give a more metallic sound.

[@ericoschmitt]

Turns out the yamaha comes with too much reverb already. And that the red cello which sounded the worse before mixing, sounded the closest to an actual cello, with some high harmonics instead of nasal. I bet all of them can be made to sound nice if you dedicate time to mixing and finding your own presets. Now considering the red is possibly the cheapest... That's what I'd take. And sandpaper to make it not-red!

[@Dorette_Roos]

Haha :) I'm glad the review helped!

[@tylermorgan4078]

Your Yamaha 110 looks sort of metallic. Did it come like that, or did you give it that finish? Either way, it looks beautiful!

[@DoretteRoos]

Thank you Tyler! Yes it was sprayed over with a silver finish!

[@patrickchenpatrickch]

Which one is the best for cello beginner?

[@Dorette_Roos]

Hey Patrick! I would recommend learning cello on an acoustic cello if this is at all an option. I would definitely not recommend the NS for a beginner - this will be too challenging :) The Yamaha 110 is the easiest and most comfortable to play. Or even the cheaper Yamaha 50 version - not part of the review would work well for a beginner. The Cecelios are physically not very comfortable - but as a beginner - you can make good progress with learning notes and basic technique. Hope this helps!

[@hollycello2268]

I am on the fence between the SVC-110, SVC-210 and NS Design CR4. I am looking for an electric cello that has an acoustic sound. I have watched your video several times and still have no idea which one to choose. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. How is the string action on these cellos. Thanks for the cello comparison review.

[@Dorette_Roos]

Hi Holly! You are most welcome! I am currently busy with a direct comparison between the Y110 and Y210 which will hopefully be done in a week or so time :) That might help too. I think the easiest to play and most acoustic sounding one of the lot is the Y110.

[@hollycello2268]

@@Dorette_Roos Thanks so much, keep the videos coming, we all enjoy them very much. Cheers

[@hollycello2268]

One last question, do you have any experience with a Bridge Draco Electric cello? I am looking forward to your Yamaha comparison video.

[@Dorette_Roos]

@@hollycello2268 Hi Holly! No I have actually never played on one of those. Not a big fan of the look - but they look like good quality instruments. I would love to try one!

[@Dorette_Roos]

@@hollycello2268 Thank you Holly!

[@havanagether17817]

Hello Dorette, I am a cellist, I saw your video comparing the 5 cellos, 2 Yamahas, 1NS and 2 Cecilios. I thank you very much for doing it and derived from certain doubts that arose, I am writing to ask for your help. I want to buy an electric cello but I don't have the money for a Yamaha or a NS, would you recommend the Cecilio? Thank you very much, My name is Yaisel.

[@Dorette_Roos]

Hi Yaisel! Thank you! I didn't find the Cecelio very comfortable to play (physically), but with a good quality amp - you can make it sound decent :)

[@itzkatsawayo]

Thanks-a-bunch.

[@Dorette_Roos]

My pleasure!

[@Macro-photographer]

Love the sound of the Cello, but no idea why Im here as I play electric bass guitar??!

[@Dorette_Roos]

Haha well you are most welcome here too!

[@autisticmachine8529]

Which NS design is this?

[@Dorette_Roos]

Hey! Sorry I missed this comment! It is the NXTa

[@gatozarin]

wow we went from bach to despacito

[@Dorette_Roos]

Haha yes! I love both my Bach and pop tunes :)

[@gatozarin]

@@Dorette_Roos hahahaah lovely!

[@horvathrichard1009]

as a musician you should be able to edit your audio

[@DoretteRoos]

Haha yes - we all have to start somewhere :) I do know how to now.

[@horvathrichard1009]

@@DoretteRoos perfect!! if your audio improves, I buy a cello!!

[@maximasforrester8689]

No prices no links no reference to what those cellos are and no names

[@jaminstreit585]

Proffessional😂😂😂😂 never heard a better joke

[@Yiddish_Harpsitech]

Beautiful Bach!

[@Dorette_Roos]

Thank you so much! 🌹🤩

[@douglasmckay5161]

Hi as for myseft I do like the yamaha but not qute sure on the sound

[@Dorette_Roos]

The Yamahas are great quality instruments! I hope the review helped with showing sound differences.

[@esbenvb]

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