5 FATAL Flaws in Transgender Ideology (ft. Frank Turek)

[@Learnerofthings]

As a former trans person, I can attest to how awful the movement is. I couldn't see it before breaking down before God and surrending to His will. Now, it's all I can see. Actually, I don't know who to talk to about it or relate to. Since then, the world looks so awful and broken. I see nothing of substance in anything I previously held dear. TV Shows, music, things, it's like I am looking at ash. I don't even like being up when it is dark, or when the skies are gray. What is going on? I'm sorry if this is off-topic, but there are virtually no resources for people who want to de-transition and be part of a community that preaches repentance and salvation through Christ. I'll keep looking, but I was just wondering if any has ever experienced this when the repented and starting living in obedience to Christ.

[@Gracenglory5]

My spirit and heart rejoices for the truth that you have found, yet grieved for the isolation you now feel! This should not be the way. There are others, but it is silenced. It is beyond grievous that even our churches do not stand for truth to provide this safe place and space for truth to reign for those who have come to know the truth of our LORD and choose to repent, no matter what the transgression/lie that was firmly believed in! It is true that the world around us is ashes to those who see through all the lures leading to disobedience and satisfying the flesh. There are areas of undefilement though. Nature, scripture, music from the past (ie classical, instrumental, hymns, etc. Sons of Korah is great, they sing only the Psalms, so is Shane and Shane and The Psalms Project). Sometimes a complete purge is necessary and an abstaining period to reset one’s mind and heart and strengthening convictions to keep the flesh and its desires unified with the truth and not the desires of the “old man”, for through faith in Yeshua/Jesus, one is now a “new man”. (“man”= mankind, human) Colossians 3:1-10 (NASB95) 1 Therefore if you have been raised up with Christ, keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. 2 Set your mind on the things above, not on the things that are on earth. 3 For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God. 4 When Christ, who is our life, is revealed, then you also will be revealed with Him in glory. 5 Therefore consider the members of your earthly body as dead to immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and greed, which amounts to idolatry. 6 For it is because of these things that the wrath of God will come upon the sons of disobedience, 7 and in them you also once walked, when you were living in them. 8 But now you also, put them all aside: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and abusive speech from your mouth. 9 Do not lie to one another, since you laid aside the old self with its evil practices, 10 and have put on the new self who is being renewed to a true knowledge according to the image of the One who created him-- Ephesians 2:1-10 1 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins 2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience- 3 among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ-by grace you have been saved- 6 and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. Ephesians 4:21-32 (ESV) 21 assuming that you have heard about him and were taught in him, as the truth is in Jesus, 22 to put off your old self, which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires, 23 and to be renewed in the spirit of your minds, 24 and to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness. 25 Therefore, having put away falsehood, let each one of you speak the truth with his neighbor, for we are members one of another. 26 Be angry and do not sin; do not let the sun go down on your anger, 27 and give no opportunity to the devil. 28 Let the thief no longer steal, but rather let him labor, doing honest work with his own hands, so that he may have something to share with anyone in need. 29 Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear. 30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. 31 Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. 32 Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you. 1 Peter 1:14 (ESV) As obedient children, do not be conformed to the passions of your former ignorance, You are in my prayers dear one! Cling to Him, keep your eyes focused on the ultimate finish line which is heavenward and know that His Kingdom is far more real than anything this world has to offer. His Kingdom to come will wipe every tear and comfort every sorrow, all former things will pass away. (Revelations 21). May the LORD bless you and keep you, at His face shine upon you and bring you peace/Shalom. 🙏🏻💞🙌🏻

[@lizzard13666]

I've been preaching on this passage recently (I'll post it at the end), and it rings true for what you were describing about "ash". Remember that you are a New Creation in Christ, and your Identity is in the Body of Christ now! We're one big eternal family, you've got all the Love in the world. I've felt similar, once you experience REAL Love, all the counterfit love out there starts to feel ... wrong somehow. So many things I thought I loved were actually harmful to myself and others, and it's a long process of sanctification to come out of that. 1 Corinthians 3:12-16 (NASB95) 12 Now if any man builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each man’s work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each man’s work. 14 If any man’s work which he has built on it remains, he will receive a reward. 15 If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire. 16 Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?

[@Learnerofthings]

@@lizzard13666 Yes, I do know that. I FEEL it. I have peace for the first time in my life, even though I don't have anything. I don't even had a job, no bank account, but I feel whole and blessed. I feel like I was pulled from the fire.

[@Learnerofthings]

@@Gracenglory5 Thank you so much for these scriptures. I have been reading Matthew and the words of Jesus a lot, and it has been comforting and instructive. His authority is what I have needed in my life. I am clinging to Jesus with both hands now. His Word is replacing my normal computer / programming habits. I am trying to think of ways to serve Him, but I found out today through my ignorance that I need to be in His Word more before I start to walk. I am such a baby in Christ, but I am growing. Shalom to you!

[@Gracenglory5]

@@Learnerofthings hallelujah! I will keep you in my prayers as you seek the LORD and study His Word! I pray His presence and fellowship is tangible for you in this stage. It is often these times that we connect deeply with Him then as we mature and things present challenges, the early stages of our spiritual development are what reminds us He is present and He is there despite how we may feel or whether he is obscured by a dark veil. Blessings and Shalom to you too! 🙏🏻🙌🏻💞

[@twiceadopted7147]

What our doctors are doing to 'help' those with gender dysphoria reminds me of a quote from the 1st Jurassic Park movie.Dr. Ian Malcolm : "Yeah, yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should"

[@Elketjeable]

💯💯💯

[@EBM1966]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@cubsnbulls3427]

It appears that it's more about money with regards to that. If people transition, they will need the hormones/therapy/treatment for the rest of their transitioned time.

[@Elketjeable]

@@cubsnbulls3427 🎯🎯🎯 This and population control; causing infertility is an *evil* genius tactic..

[@DJAntonetti]

And don't worry about the cost of the surgery. I'm sure they'll have a "Coupon Day......or something.."

[@davidfletcher369]

I miss the days when I could go years working alongside someone without ever knowing their kinks, politics, or religion. Time and place was a good policy, now we get perfect strangers outing all their private (irrelevant) information before their name.

[@ladyk7317]

Lord have mercy yes !👏🏾 👏🏾👏🏾I went to orchard store for carrot seeds and the man helping me told me he was gay he has a husband his father died and was reincarnated as a bird he now feeds everyday ! and I was like am I in the twilight zone cuz this man can't be that crazy....I just wanted carrot seeds 🤷🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️California crazy!

[@akmurf7429]

Some of it is sickening and makes me want to shower after working with them.

[@mingcummins4356]

I pretend to be deaf and make some gestures that look like sign language any time one of these loons tries to give me their life story.

[@BorisNoiseChannel]

@@ladyk7317Liar.

[@sheriwolkins8685]

When I was between 5-10 I wanted to be a boy. I ran around topless and cut my hair short. I shoved toilet paper in my pants and made people call my “Shawn”. By the time I was 15 I was SO glad to be a girl! At 62 I’m STILL glad my parents didn’t give me what I want.

[@avishevin1976]

Why would they have? Any competent therapist would have seen it was a phase. You sound like an utter moron, and it's best if you stopped being able to communicate with humans.

[@michaelripperger5674]

Bless your parents

[@paullangton-rogers2390]

Thanks for sharing something so personal. The other day, I was alarmed to see Piers Morgan debate a non-binary (woman-with-penis) parent (living with two others, same) who managed to get or adopt 2 children aged 1 and 7 whom he described as non-binary gender and refused to reveal their biological genders which he said were irrelevant. He said 'they' (pronoun when speaking about them individually) were discovering their gender identities. And that there are over 100 genders. That is very concerning. How can a one year old possibly understand anything about gender identity. Guys like that shouldn't have children or be allowed to force their gender ideas on innocent children which could damage and confuse them. He gave female names for them but his unwillingness to reveal their biological genders suggests they're probably boys. So here you have 3 trans-gender guys basically using two boys as a social experiment to see if their biological genders can be changed!

[@palladin1337]

Huh, imagine that. It's almost like you were simply having a tomboy phase and not suffering from Gender Dysphoria. Of course, it also seems like you assume that medical care providers would just give you the full treatment with your parent's blessing without, oh I don't know, a period of discussion and evaluation to determine if it's even needed. This is a procedure including rather specific drugs, hormones and possible surgery, not f*cking pain pills passed over a counter.

[@lorendjones]

Back in the day we called them "Tomboys"....I knew several growing up. Every singe one of the today goes by another name: "Grandma"!! They're mortified at the thought of growing up in today's insanity.

[@PraiseYahforHeisHoly]

I adore how Christians are able to be logical. We can go deeper and deeper and still be within the realm of logic. Thank you, Father for granting us open eyes and wisdom.

[@highroller-jq3ix]

How adorably vapid and contrary to logic.

[@susanabanana2024]

Why is it we have created laws declaring cigarettes and alcohol cannot be sold to children under a certain age AND children cannot enlist in our U.S. military, yet the ideas of medically altering a child's biology, which renders them permanent at an age under which the above laws prohibit for these ages?

[@marlaswisher7164]

Excellent question. Too bad the people making the laws don't have that much common sense.

[@rlpsychology]

From a retired school psychologist and licensed educational psychologist, excellent discussion, dear drs./brothers. Love your work.

[@johnnelligan7093]

How can mental health counselors properly counsel when they are told non-affirming therapy is illegal?

[@fernandocuriel124]

@@johnnelligan7093Great Question!!

[@extremeresponsibility]

Each child they carve up is worth $1.3 million dollars.

[@SlothoftheSun]

No wonder you're retired, you're not able to look at actual studies of the topic and instead just blindly follow what aligns with your belief.

[@CADeathstar]

"You don't treat a mental condition with surgery." If only the doctors managing the psych wards were told this in the early days.

[@timocinaivaluwaqa3993]

Sad thing is, we can't say "early days" anymore.

[@KalonOrdona2]

mutilation will be regarded exactly the same as lobotomies in short order

[@britbrat1127]

You’re talking about lobotomies; they were in circulation for a short period of time, quickly abolished, and that man went through a scathing public scrutiny that lasted until this very day. We are talking about him right now. The same will happen in a little bit with these SRS. Watch and see.

[@Number4lead]

@@KalonOrdona2 let's hope.

[@asrtralstreetboys]

They dont care, they get lifetime healthcare subscribers from these surguries, its about the money

[@gowest8184]

I've been saying and asking the same questions Frank has said here. I still cannot understand why we would fix an unhealthy mind by disturbing a healthy body. Great interview.

[@extremeresponsibility]

Each child they carve up is worth $1.3 million dollars.

[@skylee5029]

I agree with your perspective, but let me play devils advocate. I was healthy, but unhappy with myself, the way I looked, the way I felt, the way others perceived me. Started going to the gym and saw some results, continued for a few years without seeing the transformation I wanted and was unhappy. Began taking anabolic steroids and experienced the kind of growth and progress toward my goal I had been wanting. I've cycled on and off multiple times over the past decade and the benefits have been tremendous, both physically and emotionally, even economically since I performed better at work. Your question isn't specific enough. Even I can provide a reasonable argument that serves as an acceptable defeater and I agree with your stance on Transgenderism. You've essentially asked a question that can be overcome by a subjective perspective

[@gowest8184]

@@skylee5029 But do anabolic steroids have lasting effects on the body that destroy it? Stop reproductive organs from functioning? Cause osteoporosis? Can you reverse them and remain healthy? I don't know about steroids but the damaged done by hormone blockers, alternative hormones and removal of body parts cannot be undone.

[@skylee5029]

@@gowest8184 there can be lasting effects if steroids are used improperly. Say, staying on cycle too long, like a full year or longer, Testosterone and some other compounds can end up completely shutting down the body's natural production. There are however other recovery substances called Post Cycle Therapy drugs that restore normal functionality. Usually, you'll be fine and have no complications as long as you take the appropriate PCT. Some potential permanent or severe problems can be excessive blood pressure due to increasing blood volume and thickness, strain on the heart from many compounds, gynocemastia (growing breasts), damage to the kidneys and liver, psychological problems or behaviors caused by the compounds or cycling off without the proper PCT, the one unavoidable while on cycle is the speeding up of hair loss. Most, if not all of these problems can be avoided if you plan out your cycle correctly and avoid alcohol or other drugs and even pharmaceuticals while on/cycle, plus taking the correct PCT for whatever compounds you were taking while on cycle. If you do your research, educate yourself thoroughly, pay attention to side effects and know how to mitigate them, you'll have very few unavoidable side effects.

[@chelsgo8675]

The mind is part of the body, this is literally the entire foundation of psychopharmacology.

[@jenndavin]

Frank is one of my favorite speakers as an apologist. His argument style appeals to my sense of logic.

[@SeanMcDowell]

Yep, he’s bright and logical and persuasive!

[@anabaird3835]

SAME!

[@HarryNicNicholas]

he's a snake pil salesman, a book salesman, a carnival act, he's repulsive and sean is repugnant too, this demon possession bollocks is disgusting and barbaric. i'm so glad i have NEVER been a theist, never had these small minded and ignorant beliefs about my fellows. thank goodness religion is dying (pew polls and gallup) it's for the sick minded and bigoted.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

@@SeanMcDowell no he isn't he's another hypocrite, peace and love, but not for everyone eh.

[@miradamevska5887]

Same

[@user-cu3xn4xj3i]

You know the reason...satan is trying to get as many as he can.

[@LFDLittlefluffydino]

Couldn't have said it better myself

[@AliciaGuitar]

I knew a guy who was transitioning to a woman and came to me for life advice. I tried, but when he told me he was falling in love with me i felt completely betrayed and preyed upon. How can you think you are a woman, but still have male desires? It makes no sense to me at all. The only way i can understand this is if ppl like him are just obsessed with the taboo and the perverse. I also noticed a strong affection for satanism and metal music. He was convinced he could not be happy unless he got surgery and his father approved and called him a woman (which was NEVER gonna happen). There was zero acceptance.

[@samanthawhang7498]

Sounds like autogynephilia. 😕

[@CelticSpiritsCoven]

Good for you. They don't realize how much they insult and demean people by their perverse mind.

[@tomyossarian7681]

Why wouldn't she be a lesbian? Are you born without brain or just without imagination?

[@smartazz61]

I have never had this movement so logically de-bunked. I wish I could articulate the subject as well as you do. I will study your points. Thanks so much for this.

[@highroller-jq3ix]

Which movement, medical science?

[@smartazz61]

​@@highroller-jq3ixWhich movement? My bowels.

[@highroller-jq3ix]

@@smartazz61 You tell me, moron. It's your moronic comment.

[@napvanvuegt]

Minor-Attracted- Persons is how the term "pedophile" is being euphemized.

[@ladyk7317]

🤦🏽‍♀️🙏🏾

[@britbrat1127]

😒😒😒

[@Number4lead]

Exactly.

[@froggybug]

What?!!?

[@highroller-jq3ix]

I just call them Christians.

[@veritasfiles]

My son is not allowed on Social Media. He's 12, and the most he's ever done is watch a few videos on KZbin. He doesn't have a phone. He's not on TikTok, Facebook, Instragram, or anything else.

[@veritasfiles]

@@tomyossarian7681 And why would I do that? That's not consistent with what we believe, nor do I know anyone who holds to such a belief. So in what universe does your suggestion to me make sense?

[@tomyossarian7681]

@@veritasfiles Exodus 21:20-21 New International Version 20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property." You know no Christians who claim Bible is true? How fortunate you are! 🤭

[@veritasfiles]

@@tomyossarian7681 So you think that Christians believe that some Old Testament rule from thousands of years past under and entirely different covenant than what Christians are bound to has some current bearing on me, as a Christian? Here's a tip for you, and it's entirely free of charge. If you're taking exception with someone's view, then you need to actually take exception with THEIR ACTUAL VIEW, and not some kind of pre-conceived straw man caricature that you've created by plucking some verse out of context to use it in your particular vacuous pretext disguised as a clever objection. That kind of thing may fly on the internet, where most of the people speaking and writing don't know much about what they are talking about, but you're not communicating with a person like that. Okay? Lastly, I will just say that God places a premium on free will, and so He deals with mankind where they are, as the kind of people that they are, and typically in mediate terms rather than immediate. If you understand my meaning, then that would clear up most of the issues you have regarding that particular verse. If not, I'd recommend you going on Amazon and getting some books by someone like Paul Copan. He's got some popular level books like "Is God A Moral Monster?" and others that would be helpful to you, if you're intellectually curious and interested in learning. If not, I've wasted 5 minutes of my time that I won't get back, but I"ll still say a prayer for you anyway. Best wishes. If you ever really want to discuss things, let me know.

[@tomyossarian7681]

@@veritasfiles What makes Christian a Christian? Not believing the Bible is true? 🤭 Here is a free tip for you: the book from lame Christian apologist who has to claim that there is objective morality that is actually just relative to what people do anyway has 0 weight in arguments value. While your god seems very concerned whether it is moral to eat shellfish, slavery was not a problem at all. Keep isolating your kid, that is a great way to grow another religious moron doing harm to everyone not subscribing to moronic book written by ignorant men 2000 years ago.

[@eliara-thevoice8430]

You are exercising excellent parenting.

[@lindam3333]

I had never heard of Dr. Turek but he would be a good person to speak to congress when they are talking about the issue of gender altering surgeries and procedures in youth. His 5 Fatal flaws explanations was so eye opening. In particular when they are discussing Flaw #3. I found this entire discussion so interesting, clear, logical and informative.

[@thedude0000]

turek does not believe in Evolution. Keep him away from Congress, Schools or any platform in general.

[@lorraineakers8147]

I listened to this twice ! It makes so much sense to me and I hope people who consider trans surgery would listen to reason ! People's bodies are being militated over a delusion ! I pray for these people !

[@tonyclif1]

Dr Turek is a doctor of religion, not psychology or sexuality!

[@lindam3333]

@@tonyclif1 its been 8 months since i listened to dr. Turek speak so it isnt fresh on my mind at tblhis point in time.. Did he say anything that wasn't something to consider? And listening to different points of view on topics seems like a good thing to me.

[@tonyclif1]

@@lindam3333 he was talking nonsense from a science perspective. There is no such thing as Rapid Onset Sexual Dimorphism except as a term created by religious advocates. The study they cite was based on ZERO trans people yet arrived at a conclusion about trans people. Total BS that shows that non informed people with an agenda don't deserve their opinion being listened to. Yes different perspectives can be valuable, but only if the person speaking isn't talking BS.

[@pagetvido1850]

I never realized how odd the modern debate on 'marriage' was, until you pointed out that the modern conception is about romantic feelings and self satisfaction. Why would the government care about that? I suppose tax breaks are some kind of advantage marriage offers, but its all about the kids. Why does the government need to be involved at all in the interactions of people who are just seeking self satisfaction? Calling that marriage is insulting.

[@jm329]

It isn’t about kids.

[@LFDLittlefluffydino]

Protect the kids!

[@mario.migneault]

True, what one feela today maybe gone tomorrow. Someone asks me to jump out of a plane saying it was a great feeling, i replied that there are feelings that are too risky to take .

[@mugglescakesniffer3943]

Marriage is about more than sex or children. I have been married for 30 years and there are lots of things you have to go through and it's tough but it's worth it to have a person who has your back when you are at your worst.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

oddly i'm atheist i have to say apart from the fact it's never been hard, what's the difference between you and me? i'm even divorced and i have my ex's back and she mine, what makes you any better than a heathen like me? apart from being able to bully people using god as an excuse perhaps?

[@AnglicanXn]

There is certainly more to marriage than sex and children - but the REASON marriage exists is because sex results (when both husband and wife are healthy and of the right age) results in children. Since human beings reproduce sexually and since children take close to twenty years (when society is sane) to become physically and emotionally mature, it is necessary for mother and father to be committed to each other and to enjoy legal protection and the rights necessary to raise their children.

[@mugglescakesniffer3943]

@@AnglicanXn The reason for marriage is a human concept to couple for a lifetime. You don't need marriage to procreate. It is beneficial to have the 2 parents however it is not mandatory. I grew up in a single parent family myself. Not all Married couples want children either.

[@AnglicanXn]

@@mugglescakesniffer3943 marriage is a universal phenomenon. It is varied somewhat in expression, but it has existed even before governments formalized it in law. It's not something that a group of thoughtful people sat down and invented as a way to figure out the best way to raise people or make more people happy. In this world of fragile, fallible, limited people, marriage is challenging, single parenthood a reality, and even the best marriages take work. I'm not denigrating your experience. I'm simply talking about marriage as an institution.

[@mugglescakesniffer3943]

@@AnglicanXn before speaking was the word marriage a thing? NO marriage is a word humans invented to describe a certain kind of relationship between two humans typically a male and female. polygamy has been practiced more in history than it has not. The bible even has polygamy. only in modern times have Christians changed the marriage to mean literally one man and one woman in an exclusive relationship. the Bible talks more along the lines of the one woman and man as a sex act of two becoming one. They have made the one woman and one man thing by taking certain verses and taping them together to make a one woman one man narrative that is clearly not in the entirety of the bible. The marriage institution in America is different to other marriages around the world. The powerful get to defne what it is for their culture. Only in recent days with a level playing field and no fear of death as a revenge are people speaking up about alternate kinds of marriage. Again Marriage is a human concept created by humans.

[@MegUSN52]

I wish that I could share this video with my husband's family here in Seattle, WA, especially with my 88 y/o Catholic mother-in-law who states that because she's a retired RN she believes people are born this way and Christians are wrong on this...that we twist scripture to be anti-gay, anti-trans, anti-abortion, we spread hate vice love, etc. She's a very progressive Liberal Christian. However, I know that no matter what videos, bible scriptures, Internet articles, books, etc. that I forward to her it just doesn't matter. There is no convincing her otherwise. I am at a loss. I watch all these videos that tell us how we should respond to Progressive Christians and non-Christians, questions we should ask, etc., but it makes no difference. We are hating, bigots, homo/transphobes, racist, etc. So I don't know what else to do other than to just keep praying to God and asking Him to deliver her. I'm the most concerned with her because she's 88 y/o (a very healthy 88 y/o). There are so many admiring qualities I love about her, but I just cannot handle being around her and other family members when they start talking politics and cultural issues (at every family event). My last lab results last week revealed that I now have hypertension, which I've never had an issue with before. My primary care at the VA has stated they have seen an influx of patients with high blood pressure and depression...and in younger patients, not just us older ones. If I could divorce my husband's family, I would, but I can't. And I do love them and they do love me. We would all do anything for each other despite our differences. But I'm telling you that this family has really tested me and caused me to have doubts (thankfully, I was able to work through doubts by staying in God's word). On the other end of the spectrum, my own family has made Trump their idol just as my husband's family did with Obama. Prayers please!

[@avishevin1976]

She's a good person. You're a complete bigot with no value as a human. You _might_ do well as dog food, but you're more likely to prove poisonous to them, too.

[@paullangton-rogers2390]

That's a problem now we are seeing more and more. People like your mother-in-law are being indoctrinated by the left and liberals. They even have their own self-appointed so-called Christian priests...I've seen videos of one preaching in a rainbow themed church draped in Pride colours saying homosexuality is not a sin and same-sex non-binary marriages are ok in the church. Ironically it was reported that after that sermon the church was hit by a bolt of lightning!!! I have no idea if it's true but that's how I saw the clip someone uploaded before the church was struck after a sudden thunder storm. I don't know what church they represent but no mainstream Christian religion holds to that position. The Catholic Church has a whole page on their website prohibiting both. The Church of England made same-sex marriages illegal and hasn't changed its position on homosexuality being a grave sin as per scriptures. The same as Orthodox Christianity, Judaism and Islam.

[@CAsnowman]

Remember that the Bible says we will face trials and persecution, and blessed are those who are persecuted in the name of God and his truths! My best advice is to just pray for them, and be an example of a loving and kind ambassador for Christ and don’t seek to have those conversations on those topics, just try to let the character of Christ in you shine, then if the Spirit leads you to discuss those issues with them do it at that time. God bless you sister

[@avishevin1976]

@@CAsnowman Ignore the fact that your religion preaches hate and violence and hope people leave you alone to persecute as you please. That's what you want.

[@jumperstartful]

She is a Catholic and has a incorrect view of scripture. She lets the CHURCh do her reading and she doesn't read scripture on her own. You will never break through to her without the help of the holy spirit!

[@avk-kq7gv]

What a delight to hear logic, science and discussion without accusations, invention and denial! Thank you for this breath of fresh air!

[@BalikTrollbane]

Just wanted to say keep up the good work Dr. Turek and Dr. McDowell. Keep up the good fight spreading the gospel and telling people the truth. These days are discouraging but I just want to thank you for helping people like myself. Cheers and God bless.

[@palladin1337]

Yes, let's keep encouraging these parasites to lie in the name of your God for the sake of a destructive, repressive, racist, sexist agenda that's Christian in name only.

[@jm329]

He is driving people away from it.

[@scottguitar8168]

I think many teenagers are unhappy no matter which generation they grow up in. I was a teenager before internet and mobile phones and even back then teenagers found a way to bring drama into the picture to keep a continuous flow of crisis to be stressed about. It is interesting that this mainly occurs in the teenage years as young people are trying to figure out who they are.

[@mushyroom9569]

I’ve seen this cope a lot. I’m curious if anyone actually believes it. It’s hard to believe anyone could be blind to the world slowly becoming unhinged over the past couple generations.

[@georgewagner7787]

There's research that shows that puberty causes depression in girls.

[@Number4lead]

It's all part of the hell the teenage years are. I remember having severe anxiety and depression during my Teens for no reason. Lots of chemical changes happening. But now we throw social media into the mix to make confused impressional teenagers even more mental.

[@anabaird3835]

Noone separates their ethics from their politics. NOONE. EXCELLENT conversation. MUCH MUCH MUCH APPRECIATED..& NEEDED!

[@DannyD-lr5yg]

Who is “Noone”? I mean, noone is not an English word so it must be a name, right?

[@ancientbaltoy8769]

​@@DannyD-lr5ygthat's a nice name. Might recommend it to my friend who is transitioning

[@Number4lead]

​@@DannyD-lr5ygoh boy you got him there. I bet you feel like a real worrior you grammer super hero. 😂😂😂

[@DannyD-lr5yg]

@@Number4lead Stop baiting me!! I see what you’re doing!!! 😂😤

[@parisspencer6245]

Pedophilia is a crime and people that committed it should go to jail.

[@RealHooksy]

That has nothing to do with this subject

[@Sabatonrex]

​@@RealHooksyyes it does, and I know that and I'm from sweden and I think that you are from usa And the lbtq movement in the usa are advertising pedophilia as not a criminal activity and pedophile's are not criminal. And that is nuts, and the media in us throw shit and will not talk about sound of freedom

[@joeharris2659]

@@RealHooksyThere’s a well-funded movement trying to promote connections in people’s minds between paedophilia and trans people. I think this commenter is trying to tap into that association.

[@Number4lead]

​@@RealHooksywhat he said is true.

[@RealHooksy]

@@Number4lead still nothing to do with transgender

[@janinevanreenen9470]

These poor souls are science experiments. Sadly, the medical community has decided that money is more important than an oath to do no harm. The only One who can and will help each one, their Creator. Praying that they will cry out to Him for help. Sooner, better than, later!

[@avishevin1976]

You're responding to a video in which someone is using his religion to make himself rich. Your utter lack of awareness is typical for a Christian.

[@xone-bonecusher4773]

When did the distribution of hormones like steroids and such become medically legal for non related injuries or rehabilitation purposes? And when was it ok for them to use it on someone under 18?

[@TrishWragg]

Never, they just do it😪

[@avishevin1976]

For at least several decades. Do you know what birth control is, or are you an ignorant bigot, like most Christians?

[@cuteanimalseverywhere7620]

When they realised they could charge more than $2k per month for puberty blockers and more than $100 k for surgeries!

[@Number4lead]

​@@cuteanimalseverywhere7620probably the biggest factor, besides the other twisted agendas.

[@froggybug]

When they realized that coming for our kids was so easy. BAM!! Sterile!

[@kelliewonderly6841]

Excellent interview Sean, thank you. I think I may get this book. Funny aside here, I'm watching this video and realized I am wearing the exact same shirt as you... You got good taste man

[@EBM1966]

I love with Dr. Turek said-why does corporate america care about how people feel about marriage…. I work for a big city government agency and every year they make us take a computerized workshop about diversity and inclusion-and they will and can withhold your paycheck if you don’t complete it. And they can even write us up over not complying. Talk about promotion!

[@avishevin1976]

Aww, is the widdle bigot upset that she has to learn about being a good person?

[@CelticSpiritsCoven]

@@avishevin1976 Aww, the Atheist bigot got mad that someone disagreed with her. Why do you Atheists have to legislatively impose your morality onto us? Why? Why don't employers tell gay people to be tolerant to straight people? --> that's not included in the diversity and inclusion training. Gays aren't told to tolerate straight people. Which means that the employer is sexually harassing straight people. What people do in their bedroom is of no concern to the employers. It's straight up sexual harassment to make people take such training.

[@EBM1966]

@@avishevin1976 this is not about whether I am a good person or not-it’s about CONTROL!

[@avishevin3353]

@@EBM1966 Aww, is the widdle bigot upset that she's an employee?

[@EBM1966]

I absolutely love people that cannot find a reasonable response that resort to name calling! Those that don’t agree with letting a child “chose” their gender are bigots. That’s fantastic!

[@annhood3]

Love you two. Saw Frank on A. Childers program as well. I am a member of Apologia & I love all of you standing up and not backing down from the progressive heresy. Love learning from you all as well. We must stand together although we may have some different beliefs in our Christian bible only believing communities & sometimes even w our own church. God bless

[@matt59fire]

They look like the same person 😂

[@kennethcrenshaw317]

I can't stand that people haven't noticed the simplest problem that creates transgender. The simplest form of mentality that causes it is "self hatred". Notice that most people that identify have no strong influence that helps them to love themselves. They're either poor or the parents are out all the time. It boils down to not loving who you are and wanting something else. I try to help them by directing them to a loving God but they don't always take that advise

[@tomyossarian7681]

You are a textbook example of a moron.

[@btm96]

I've never seen Frank so serious. Great conversation!

[@HarryNicNicholas]

yes he's much better suited to acting like a clown, all this seriousness about a subject he knows nothing about is out of character, he ought to stick to selling books, like sean does. "new atheists" get a lot of flak, but you can;t beat "new christians" for hypocrisy - there's no love like christian love.

[@AlrightDave]

​@@HarryNicNicholasah I see your point now.... You're only able to insult character, and you're *not* able to address the arguments presented. Oh dear...

[@CelticSpiritsCoven]

@@HarryNicNicholas You are the one who sounds like a clown. The old Atheist cult religion is no longer supported by the academic community. The new Atheist cult religion is being ditched by the academic community. They are now looking for New, New Atheism. You don't pay much attention to reality. Atheism invented an invisible triune creator god and also believes in magic. Shame on you. And I have clear evidence which proves this.

[@gingercake0907]

@@HarryNicNicholas I bet there are times you are hypocritical and tell lies. I just bet.

[@angelicamckee]

Gentlemen I am a Transgender Woman and I wanted to take a minute and respond to your video. First, to give you some background, I am 50-years old and fully transitioned about 5 years ago. I also lean right politically. With that said, let me start by saying there are some ideas that you speak of that I agree with and some that I don't. First, I agree that the current transgender ideology is a social media issue. Yes, most (95%+) of kids who state they are transgender right now will change their mind. As a result, the kids need to be protected from the people who are allowing them to do any body modifications. Once they are an adult, that is their choice, but there is also a reason why we have an age that we recognize as an adult. When it comes to the pathology of gender dysphoria, for some of us (again very few) it is a very real thing. It is a painful condition that we cannot change. The problem is that previously, even as late as a few years ago, to transition (to get hormone replacement therapy or surgery) you had to undergo rigorous counseling and and psychological evaluation. Now, as you stated, all you have to do is say, "I am transgender." We need to bring back a standard of care. I also agree that there are only two genders. Take the prefix 'Trans' which is defined as moving from one place to another (ie transcontinental means to go from one coast to the other). With that in mind, being transgender means to move from one gender to the other which in itself proves only two genders. One of the problems here is that we shamed the word 'Transsexual' which is much more accurate. Lastly on surgery, as stated above, I have had all surgeries. I did not do them under the illusion that it changed my biological sex. After I am dead, in a hundred years if someone digs up my bones, they will say, "This was the body of a male." I can't change that. I did the surgeries to approximate my perpetual self image. I feel better about me and it was right for me. I was also an adult who went through 10+ years of therapy to make sure it was the right thing. Kids should NEVER be subjected to this! Again, while I may not agree with all of your positions, I appreciate your point of view. I hate that Dr. Turek was fired for his beliefs. I have been down a similar but opposite path. I do challenge you both to keep an open mind that not everyone that identifies as "Transgender" is part of the problem. Many of us disagree with the politics and 'woke-ness' that has engulfed this country.

[@avishevin1976]

_Now, as you stated, all you have to do is say, "I am transgender."_ This is a lie. You need to be trampled by a herd of elephants for spreading this lie.

[@ash_yt0]

You do realise people are just going to read this and call you "woke" regardless, right? Unless you denigrate yourself and present yourself as lesser-than, he won't respect you. And he'll never respect you for who you are because he doesn't understand, nor want to understand. He wants to recoil in disgust at transgender folk and then construct this self-contradicting ideology about how transgender "ideology" doesn't make sense to him. But no matter how much he says that, trans folk have always existed and always will.

[@CelticSpiritsCoven]

Sorry, but you are walking around wearing a costume, which is insulting to many people for many different reasons. If you just wanted to be you, then you wouldn't have done any surgeries. You didn't really want to be you. It's very painful because you never accepted yourself for the way you naturally are. Could you imagine a little person all of their life hating themselves for being a little person, so they have surgeries to put stilts in their legs? Sorry, but you sound that far out there to me.

[@avishevin1976]

@@CelticSpiritsCoven You are an extremely stupid person who hates that which it does not understand. You think people who have literally no minds are healthier than people with minds. It's mind-boggling, but you wouldn't know that because you appear to be one of those lacking a mind.

[@ash_yt0]

@@CelticSpiritsCoven It sounds far out to you because you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about and have no understanding of this topic. A better analogy would be that you are going up to a gay man and saying "You aren't accepting yourself for the way you are, you are a man, and therefore should date women." That's not how that works. You don't have to date women and you don't have to present as a woman either, if that's not how your mind operates. Accepting oneself means accepting that you have different wants and needs, that people are different, and that's OK because you don't always have to fit in a little box conservatives wish to place you in just because they struggle to wrap their heads around things that sound "far out" to them. Actually go talk to people with an open mind and understand what they're going through before disregarding people's entire life experience.

[@Disgruntled_Canadian]

Awesome video. I love Frank Turek, he’s a pleasure to listen to.

[@gmlr]

Hi Sean, Drew McCoy just released a video detailing many errors Frank made here. I would love to see you interview Drew. You have cooperated before and I think you have a lot of integrity, so it would be great if you addressed this.

[@TruthInJesus1985]

Yes, I love Walt Heyer!! This is so necessary and needed!! I was trans identifying until Jesus changed me!

[@bellanoche6797]

Praise God! ✝️

[@ladyk7317]

I was lost in fornication and Christ delivered me , but the enemy will never stop using people places and situations to draw us back to sin . Stay in the word of God and pray gather with other believers to worship Christ, while I sleep I play the Bible Kjv on audio ,let's pray for one another 💪🏾💋

[@GD-tn3ez]

“There is a way that seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death.” ‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭16‬:‭25‬ ‭

[@troyjhinkle]

Such a great conversation. So many great points. Thanks for helping to present this topic without hate and with clarity. So appreciate the both of you and the work you both do to speak truth in love. God Bless.

[@Living_Water274]

The problem is social media is acting like government in promoting prohibiting certain contents. Making it moral like you know your book argues

[@christopherhearn4309]

I am a 100% biological male. Caucasian 6 feet tall Brown hair 224 pounds Now, if I walk into a room full of people and announce that I am the following: Female Black 5 feet tall Have red hair Weigh 100 pounds People will correctly laugh at or think that I'm joking about everything but the first statement. Why is this?

[@avishevin1976]

You're a disgusting bigot, and there is nothing moral about letting you live without pain.

[@Kingofthenet2]

😂😂😂

[@stephaniebach__12-24]

It just goes to show how brainwashed many people are… they can’t even think logically

[@eliara-thevoice8430]

Mind programming. They are programmed.

[@in_the_quiet]

Another issue tied to the transitioning of children, particularly with boys, is that they do not fully develop their sexual organs and then there is no organ to 'repurpose' for the reassignment surgery. This can be painful and result in someone who has no functioning organ as an adult at all. Not to mention the impacts of hormones on sexual desire. So then they are left impotent, unsatisfied with sensations, and lacking desire to even engage. So so sad.

[@froggybug]

The fake organ they create doesn’t function at all. They are sterile. On both sides.

[@phinneas-davidwilliams3354]

Shaun, it meant a lot to me that you said intersexed individuals are precious to God, I have gone to church since I was an infant & started a relationship with Jesus when I was 35, but have struggled how God can care about me becuse I don't physically fit either gender.

[@phinneas-davidwilliams3354]

*Sean

[@SeanMcDowell]

Thanks for sharing. So sorry for the struggles but I’m glad that spoke to you!

[@theresafrye1390]

You are precious and uniquely created by God, not a mistake. He has a purpose and plan for you that only you can fulfill. Trust and delight in Him.❤

[@rainkidwell2467]

​@@SeanMcDowellyou probably mean well with all of this, but your ignorance and arrogance on the matter make God weep for you. Why do you hate the parts of His creation that you don't understand?

[@Gracenglory5]

The LORD does deeply care for you. This fall effects the natural world just as it does the spiritual world. Based on your comment it appears you are referring not to mere preference but physically biological forms and attributes that cause you to be intersexed. I apologize if this is a wrong understanding of your comment. But, I will address this first then cover the option of the inner world being the driving force instead of having dual reproductive forms. Physical changes can happen on any level. The unfortunate thing is that some are exploited in social environments more than others. Those who were born mute were ostracized and ridiculed and called “dumb”. They were often treated as though they had the plague. Same with the blind. Just read about the blind man in John ch 9. He was born blind and the people believed he was this way due to sin. Any malformation was considered to be a result of sin either ancestral, parental, or personal sins. Some are born with it and some experience it in life (ie. chronic illness, onset of blindness, muteness, etc. Read Job) it comes in many forms. Down’s syndrome is another form we can physically see where life is altered on a severe scale. Once with Down’s is not able to live as a person who’s been formed in the intended way. Genetics codes do glitch. This is difficult, but it is also a reality of our fall. Is it fair? With a resounding NO I say it is not. However, we do not live in a fair and just world. Why? Because the Prince of the air who is filled with pride is hellbent on his mission to kill, Rob and destroy. Does the LORD not care then? May it never be! He cares about all! Just as Jesus says about the man born blind in John 9, John 9:3-3 (ESV) Jesus answered, “It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him.” Does that mean all who are born differently are meant to be transformed physically to fit “normal”? This too is a resounding no. So how does the work of God get displayed in such a scenario because far more are born that are not physically transformed! His work comes with the agreement of truth despite the physical differences that attempt to defy such a truth. The enemy wants nothing more than for us to believe what we see than to believe in that which is unseen. But it is written John 20:29 29 Jesus said to him, “Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” We are then met with a choice. Simple, yet massively difficult and further intentionally exacerbated by the leading of our flesh conjoined with the deceit and seducing of the enemy of our souls. The choice, therefore, is whether we buy into the lie that we are not fearfully and wonderfully made if we are not made “according to the design”. There is a flip side to this as well. If we then agree that we are in fact fearfully and wonderfully made does that then mean HOW we are physically formed is in alignment with the intended design and therefore determines what is real and true? If that were true then the LORD would be a liar and now we are faced with an even greater issue. So what is the answer? Where does one go from here? The simple yet difficult choice is presented. The difficult path is in agreeing with what is true at the same time we admit what has been made is not “wrong” but also not intended. It is just what has occurred because we live in a world bent toward entropy (a decline into disorder from order). It is not the fault of the one born in such a way. It is there unique cross to bear though. No, it’s not fair, but it does present the same ability to glorify the LORD just as anyone who escapes from living in a lie and comes to the knowledge of the truth. This leads to my next point. If it is not physical but a driving force coming from within that you feel as thou you are “intersexed”. It is nothing strange that is happening within you, it is just a form of temptation that effects you in a unique way, taking opportunity and exploiting the times we are in with the permission and promotion of such desires and ideologies. Everyone has a nonphysical cross to bear as well. Some crosses that have become socially acceptable and permissible make it ten times harder for those who battle in other ways. For example, adultery, reviling (abusive speech), fornication (heterosexual singles having sex outside of marriage) etc… all are just as “sinful” and must be fought with the same vigor. The root cause all begins with the desires of the flesh which every single one of us has to battle and subdue. Society does not dictate what is acceptable. Ones battle against idolatry, greed, swindling (intentional deception for one’s own selfish gain), can be kept hidden and unnoticed by those around them. But truth be told, the LORD considers those no different than the ones who fight against same sex attraction (just another form of lust that leads to defilement) and identity beliefs that also are purposefully poked and prodded upon to, again, lead to defilement. The goal is all the same, lead all humans to defile the LORD. Why??? Because those who PRACTICE such things will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. Tempted is not synonymous to practice. What we do with temptation is what makes all the difference. There is NOTHING new under the sun. All forms of temptations, malformations, fleshly desires (the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately sick, Jer 17:9), etc. have been around since the fall and exasperated by the lures, deceptions and pressures of the enemy of our LORD and our very souls. The louder those voices and messages are in our outside environment the harder it is to silence the deceptions in our hearts and minds. Yet, not impossible! Surrounding ourselves with truth that comes, not from man (including the professing believer) but from the LORD alone. We can glean from one another and be strengthened by our fellow believers, but all things must be searched out in the light of scripture. I am, and have been since reading your message, praying for you and interceding on your behalf. May the LORD of all truth and comfort shine the light on the path that leads to life! Prov 3:5-7 And May He strengthen you and embolden your spirit to be both continually renewed in Him and fortified against the deceptions and delusions of the enemy. Many blessings and much love to you! 🙏🏻💞🙌🏻

[@marilynloftin9225]

Pride is not now and never has been a virtue.

[@stephaniebach__12-24]

Pride is disgusting and shallow

[@froggybug]

Right!!

[@froggybug]

It comes before the fall

[@REVPIPSTER]

Yesterday in a Miss Holland contest, The Dutch officially declared that a trans-woman was officially more beautiful than a real woman. He is planning to attend Miss Universe, I do believe, later this year!

[@scottguitar8168]

Dr. Frank Turek makes some good points about Transgender Ideology. Of course a potential problem is that if a man doesn't feel like a man, there could be an assumption that he must be a woman because sex is fixed. I have seen some transgenders who have made the switch and unsuccessfully become the opposite sex precisely because they don't understand what it is truly like to be the opposite sex they were born as. Not feeling like a stereotypical man or woman doesn't necessarily mean you have a woman's brain inside a male body and vice versa. Often it is the case that after the transition, the individual doesn't come across as the sex they are trying to be. Also there are physical traits that suggest they are still the sex they were born as, which is why it is unfair to let a transwoman compete in women's sports because they still have traits of a man physically.

[@anupwardlife4160]

Sad and shocking, but excellent and articulate interview. High-5's to both of you. One thing, Dr. Turek, in discussing the horrid medical 'Dr. Mengele'-type surgery done by some warped physicians, I would describe prescriptions given post-sex-change surgery not as 'medication,' but what they are; terrible, body-damaging DRUGS. Thanks much, Sean and Frank, for this timely, powerful interview.

[@meganluck4352]

This was a great video and my husband and I have listen to your podcasts and so have our three sons for discussions. Thank you both so much!

[@user-cu3xn4xj3i]

Also satan is the liar and author of confusion.

[@JacenXhan]

This is a great discussion and love that Sean has a good mic now :D

[@cristinabivins2240]

Such a great interview. Looking forward to Frank and Dave's conversation, and hoping Sean gets to have Dave on, as well!

[@HarryNicNicholas]

make the most of it cause frank and sean and all those other apologists are losing ground, people are beginning to see just what a crock of poop religion is. religion can do nothing but self destruct, nothing you do is "right" any more.

[@deborahjesic4804]

I like Pastor Turek because of his transparency, honesty, and great common sense! No phony fiscade, not a shallow ministry! I met him in Lebanon PA last summer, and he was kind, professional and direct! Love you Brother!❤

[@johnnyboy24]

Flaw 2 is a great point. There has to be a standard or structure that are being measured by

[@rachaelc5516]

Well I need Dr Tureks book! As a youth leader and a mother of three trying to explain this in a logical and kind way is a nightmare! Thank you both excellent discussion and so helpful!

[@HarryNicNicholas]

what will happen if you don't buy their books, will you go to hell? christians ought to buy william lane craig's book(s), but if they don't like him, then buy sean mcdowells' book(s), or Greg Koukl, Lee Strobel, eric hernandez', but maybe they would prefer frank tureks book(s) or even mike liconah's, or gary habermas', or best yet buy J.P. Moreland's books, god answered his prayers even if it was for a pool table. one thing is for sure though, you won't buy jesus book cos he didn't have the foresight to write ANYTHING.

[@rachaelc5516]

@@HarryNicNicholas why do you think any one would go to hell for not purchasing a book? What do you mean by Jesus didn’t have the foresight to write anything ? Assuming you have read all of the authors listed ( some fantastic reading material in that list by the way) you must have a good understanding of the trinity and how the words of Jesus were documented ? It is far better than if Jesus just wrote a book himself. The whole Bible points to Jesus written over the span of centuries by a multitude of authors separated by time and space and yet cohesively point to the person of Jesus. Multiple authors writing about Jesus and the words he spoke are far more useful and reliable than if he sat and wrote about himself. Looking at it from a secular analytical point of view it’s far better to have the eye witness accounts of multiple people rather than one persons account surely ? J Warner Wallace is another great apologist you should look up. You seem to be a bit hostile to purchasing books so maybe just look him up on KZbin for now? I personally prefer to have books so I can make notes and refer back to them when ever I choose. Hope you find some clarity, Jesus book is called The Bible :) it’s my absolute fave! :D In the mean time take comfort that I definitely won’t go to hell if I don’t manage to procure this book. I’m saved by Grace, because lord knows I needed to be :D Hope that helps!

[@AlrightDave]

​@@HarryNicNicholaswhat's your point?

[@phil3467]

@@HarryNicNicholasmaybe because He had the forethought to let the Holy Spirit write through the Apostles like He told them the Holy Spirit would do?

[@Steelmage99]

"trying to explain this in a logical and kind way is a nightmare!" That really ought to make you think.... Perhaps the message you are trying to convey isn't logical nor kind.

[@gregston25242363]

Best content on this subject. One notation. At one point Turek says social media drives Trans. At end he says trauma, sex abuse, mental health issue is behind all Trans. I believe both are true for the spectrum of Trans.

[@tubermind]

I noticed that, too. Social media may be the engine that drives the ideology through the minds of young children who are exposed, but it's mainly at this point coming into the schools because of the academics who are blindly following Kinsey and other gender-bending theorists and making it a priority for the lower grades. Theoretically, there will be less "transphobia" and more "acceptance" if kids are exposed and it is promoted to them as an option. The way to hell, as the saying goes, is paved with "good intentions." When one is at university, unless one is dissecting religion as a religious studies major or the like, one cannot speak about God as a believable reality unless one is referencing a Mesopotamian worldview of the cosmos as the progenitor of "god" or some OTHER type of beyond-this-dimensional-force -- you cannot speak about "the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" specifically BECAUSE most of them are either Atheist or into some other eastern philosophy and they just DON'T WANT TO HEAR it. It's so ironic since the universities were originally founded to promote literacy so that people COULD read the Bible. Our very roots are being hacked away at, and at such a huge cost.

[@avishevin1976]

Bigots like you do love to abuse people. No wonder you know all about the effects of abuse.

[@ricksonora6656]

I think it’s a mistake to omit the influence of teachers and of the classmates a child sees every day.

[@gingercake0907]

@@ricksonora6656 What a teacher will do is make sure all of his or her students feel comfortable in class making sure no bullying is going on. Teachers are not in the business of making any of their students feel bad. I taught for twenty years and I had children from different ethnicities and income levels and I made sure of that.

[@mommak8342]

@@gingercake0907Well, there are also a lot of teachers pushing gender ideology in the classroom under the guise of DEI.

[@kishidabu]

Wow gentlemen! What a great video to understand the underpinnings of the current confusing conversations surrounding the whole transgender craziness. Thanks so much!

[@HarryNicNicholas]

really? they didn't just waffle about the hypocrisy of being fired for bigotry when religious organizations make employees sign declarations that the bible is without error? but i suppose anything god does is moral by definition, right?

[@CelticSpiritsCoven]

@@HarryNicNicholas Did they make Frank sign a declaration on the way into the job that he must support gay sex before he could work there? Your argument is a FAIL. You Atheists believe in an invisible triune creator god and magical talking fairy rocks. Atheists cannot be taken seriously.

[@baconsarny-geddon8298]

I'm a lifelong atheist, and although I've never had any issue with individual Christians, the truth is that I've always had criticisms of Christianity (and ALL religions).... But on THIS issue, of transgenderism, and the ideology of (sex-independent) "gender" overall, I find myself agreeing with, and actively supporting Christians, more than I have on any other issue (except maybe criticism of Islam). Sean talks about how this issue makes "strange bedfellows" (kinda ironic phrase, with this issue. But valid point), and it's true- I NEVER thought I'd hear myself agreeing with Frank Turek... But probably 80-90% of what he says here, I completely support. Up til the last 2 or 3 years, I NEVER expected that I'd support a staunch Christian conservative like Matt Walsh (10 or 15 years ago, I saw myself as "left wing"... But TODAY, I don't even know- "Centrist"? "Politically homeless"? *Anti-woke left"? I just know I've had major issues with the mainstream left, for close to a decade, now...) And even though I STILL disagree with Walsh on significant issues, I am a HUGE FAN of his opposition against the mutilation and brainwashing of perfectly health children, for no evidence-based reason at all. As well as "gender" nonsense, overall (and many more aspects of the insanity.of "woke" idiocy) Personally, I think it's hard to under-estimate the harm done (and potential for EVEN WORSE harm), by the 100% evidence-free ideology of "gender"- The physical harm to children, of using drugs, and from the mid-teens or even earlier (there are MULTIPLE cases of 100% needless double mastectomies, for no evidence-based reason, on girls as young as 12, although 15/16 is the "routine" age it's allowed.... Yet you're not responsible enough to legally rent a bicycle, or carpet shampooer, til age 18...). The harm of allowing ANY man, the right to invite himself into ANY female space. The EXTREMELY worrying precedent of claiming that children as young as 9, or even less, can somehow give "valid consent". The insane number of medical protections of patients we've thrown out, to allow these cosmetic body-modifications, justified by exactly ZERO empirical evidence. But maybe the MOST worrying aspect, is the erosion of THE VERY CONCEPT of "evidence-based truth"- If "men" and "women" are no longer defined by THE OBJECTIVE, PROVABLE TRUTH of biological sex, but rather on the 100% evidence-free, "just trust me, bro" testimony of "gender" self-ID (under threat of imprisonment in many places, already), then what OTHER objective, provable realities will we be forced to deny, in order to prioritize what "FEEEELS true, to me", to someone or other?!? It USED to be that empirical truths about the physical world were the one thing we could ALL agree on- Hindu, Muslim, Christian, atheist, agnostic, whatever; It USED to be that we could ALL agree that water boils at 100c, and that potential to get pregnant= female = woman, and that potential to produce sperm = male = man... But if ANY OF US can destroy such simple, provable truth, at ANY time, for ANY reason, solely justified by "but I don't FEEEL like accepting the objective, evidence-based truth, that is functionally the same as NOT HAVING ANY CONCEPT OF "EVIDENCE-BASED TRUTH"... It means that literally ANY claim can be asserted as """truth""", based solely on "but it FEEEELS true to me" (the exact same issue I have with ANY claim of """truth""", justified by "taking it on faith", btw...), and we have already set precedent, that others need to ACTIVELY AFFIRM that """truth"""", even if it openly defies every single shred of evidence... I just think this issue, ALREADY harming the physical health of countless children (and adults), and seriously threatening the basic concept of "truth" itself, that ANYONE SANE, REGARDLESS OF RELIGION, OR LACK OF RELIGION, OR POLITICS, OR DIFFERENCES ON OTHER ISSUES, REALLY NEED TO STAND TOGETHER, ON THIS ISSUE... We live in deeply politically-divided times, when I suspect that virtually all of us see this stuff in terms of "OUR side, vs THEIR side" alot of the time (I have CERTAINLY been guilty of this, regrettably...) But if there was EVER a time to put that aside, it's THIS issue... I will GLADLY put aside our differences, and 100% support Christians like Sean and Frank, and Matt Walsh, and others, on this vital issue... And I urge ANYONE who cares about needless mutilation of children, and/or about simple, evidence-based truth, to put aside their own differencs and stand by ANYONE, Christian, atheist, Hindu, Muslim, left or right, feminist, conservative, liberal, whatever- ANYONE who speaks out on this crucial issue, deserves ALL of our support....

[@CelticSpiritsCoven]

What you realized is that you saw the handiwork of the Devil in this trans ideology. Maybe your mind will be opened more to realize the other handiworks of the Devil --> it's vast and wide. Think about this...... all the core principles of Leftism and the Democrat party are AGAINST the Bible. This isn't an accident. This is on purpose. Progressives wish to "progress" away from the Bible. Democrats and Leftists don't care about morality. They care about people being able to have whatever perverse sexual desires they want, and to kill whomever they deem unworthy of life. You are only just discovering that the hatred people have towards God is working like a Demon would do..... and guess what..... it's described in the Bible.... Ephesians 6:12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. At last your eyes were finally opened and you saw your first glance that the Bible is correct that people who hate God so much and progress as far away from the bible as possible, that the evil in their hearts acts like what a demon would do. And so this actually proves that there are invisible principalities going on, that the Atheist is unaware of.

[@Falconress49]

BOOM

[@Rainbowpikmin93]

This is the most bigoted, moronic diatribe I've read today. Congratulations.

[@johnnelligan7093]

Psychological counseling. Yes. The problems is that now in at least some states (like NY), a therapist can not legally counsel a child in a way that is unaffirming of the chosen gender identity

[@GodSaveTheClothes]

Excellent conversation

[@Laundrey1]

Age bans on social media are futile in an imperfect world. FB has a minimum age of 14 to use but I know multiple parents who allow their kids to lie about their age or do it for them just so they can be on social media earlier. It’s the FOMO and parents are either projecting that into their kids or caving to the pressure and whining of their kids. Thankfully my teen has zero interest in social media. The other, I had household bans on it because I knew of the dangers but she moved out and is stuck to it all day and night, sadly to tik tok.

[@kathystoneburner4947]

Bravo to your child that has better things to do. The other child is nothing to do with your good parenting. The majority have lack of parenting, period. I see too many parents that can't seem to get past the fact that they are no longer 16.

[@ladyk7317]

🙏🏾 for her none stop

[@marionrubindesilva4254]

Thank you so much I stayed through and was so happy to learn so much Am a Christian and gave me the good understanding of this latest fad

[@HarryNicNicholas]

what did you learn pray tell?

[@kathystoneburner4947]

Love your mentioning fad because that's just what it is.

[@Number4lead]

​@@kathystoneburner4947yep, perpetuated by social media.

[@walterstockhecker5579]

Stabilizing society goes beyond just enforcing child care obligations. You even said it, limiting promiscuity has value.

[@cyndicoleman857]

Hey Sean, Great interview. Frank is top notch and always presents reasonable, logical perspectives. Great content. I will be sure to pass this on to Kyle, Kaylea & Kean. 1:13:40

[@h.e.l623]

As Jordan Peterson once said (paraphrase) "sex is biological; gender is essentially more analogous to personality."

[@beeman4266]

The issue is for pretty much all of history gender and sex were used synonymously. Saying you're a woman or man meant I'm a male or female. They didn't have some esoteric ethereal definition that half the population can't define like they do now. Personally I say we just start saying male or female. That way there can be no confusion. As everyone knows, males cannot be females and females can't be males.

[@miradamevska5887]

It still allows for fuel to the fire, you cant change the meaning of a word, since when does a boy playing with a barbie make them a girl, there lays the first prejudice so what if he plays with a doll dont pump the child with idiology its a child what do they know??? Stupid idiotic adults' attention seeking narcissistic people that they themselves need therapy, not the little boy playing with Barbie. Look at the logic.

[@avishevin1976]

@@beeman4266 For pretty much of all history, gender was a term used in linguistics, and sex referred to visible physical characteristics. You are clearly an ignorant puddle of Christian.

[@levimungai1846]

bible condems effeminism and recognises male, female genders as different

[@psyck]

If we can’t talk and can only communicate in sign language so we don’t offend the deaf, what happens with the blind?

[@ladyk7317]

Wow that's a great analogy 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@tetiraelian]

He is so right @11:04 with regards to the Sex at work shenanigan. Corporations now have a dedicated diversity department which adds no value whatsoever to employees productivity. I don't care what my colleagues Kinks are. I just want to work and go home.

[@ladyk7317]

Thank you 🙏🏾

[@CDGMR1]

Since when does whatever I do in my bedroom/bed has anything to do with my work performance?

[@ladyk7317]

Exactly..I was raised old school, keep your business to yourself,whatever is going on with you outside of work deal with it outside of work 🤷🏽‍♀️💋

[@froggybug]

Isn’t it considered sexual misconduct to have this conversation work anyways? Are their rules about that? My job has them. So why is this an issue…at all…ever?

[@FloydKnight-z1d]

This is a sensible and reasonable conversation. KZbin needs more videos like this.

[@jonathansamuelaugustine7969]

😂😂😂

[@lorendjones]

The childhood trauma aspect is real. The dirty little secret is child molestation is a factor in a huge percentage of male homosexuals. Many years ago I represented a child molester and in the pre-sentence investigation it came out that he'd been molested as a child by an older male cousin. I began doing research and talked to dozens of homosexual men. In that small sample it was 100% that experienced molestation as a child.

[@anthonydesimone502]

Read the actual scientific research on it because it's much more robust than "I talked to some gay men".

[@lorendjones]

@@anthonydesimone502 LOL. Sure...point me to your studies.

[@anthonydesimone502]

Do people realize what absolute idiots they come off as replying "LOL science"?

[@jm329]

@@lorendjonesYou could just look up homosexuality on Wikipedia.

[@igobydubri]

Really enjoying your channel Sean! The guests , questions , and answers are awesome. Thank you for the work you do for the body of Christ and for the Kingdom. Praise the Lord Jesus Christ

[@winonahdemars579]

Not being snarky here, a couple of possible corrections. Abigail Shriers book is called, "irreversible damage". Then, the pedos are using, MAPS, minor attracted persons 🤢. Thank you for this discussion. Its wonderful that you put the words and logic to what im thinking here, as well.

[@trevorcook3129]

Small correction here. It’s paedo. Pedophile means feet lover. Words have meanings. Prefixes have meanings. Sorry USA..

[@Archimedes616]

@@trevorcook3129 A foot lover is a podophile. Pedophile is a variant of paedophile.

[@paullangton-rogers2390]

Some of the stuff we are seeing with Pride Month now is disturbing and well beyond its original social inclusion activism. Guys in s&m stuff bare backsides simulating anal sex on the back of a truck. It's like an excuse for perverts to parade around in public with children. Imagine if a hetrosexual guy did that the cops would luck him up for public indecency! I saw a man protesting, a Christian quoting the bible with a loud speaker near them and the cops arrested HIM for a 'hate-speech' crime. Roseanne put it well when she said on Piers Morgan, if transwomen have a problem with her being a woman with real breasts that defends biological female gender, then they should start by stop swinging their dicks about around children on parade trucks lol

[@anthonydesimone502]

​@trevorcook3129 if you're going to be pedantic, at least be correct. Podophilia is the sexual attraction to feet.

[@trevorcook3129]

@@anthonydesimone502 Ped is also feet. Pedestrian, pedicure

[@patientlywatching7775]

Best rebuttal to George Carlin's view on God and "rights" I've ever heard. Beautiful. 👍🙏❣️

[@mikeyhalliday]

Must sue the hell of all the butchers and the government for passing these stupid laws allowing these things to happen!

[@ladyk7317]

The de-trans people need to form a class action lawsuit 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@franktorres9373]

Adults can pay for it themselves. As a tax payer, I should not be picking up the tab for these surgeries. Children need to wait until they are adults and then they can chose for themselves.

[@briggs7777]

Affirming someones delusion does not help them, the truth will set you free 🙏

[@danduntz2539]

Your point about if body Dysmorphic disorder deals with psychology, why is the solution biological? The therapeutic treatment for this disorder is not affirming the transition or decision, but rather using CBT (Cognitive Behavioral therapy) and anti-depressants. However, there are some states that have put into law, that therapists must affirm the choices of their clients, thus nullifying therapy altogether.

[@ladyk7317]

Time for them to move into Christian therapy and do it online or zoom or phone God will always creat away 💪🏾🙏🏾

[@stuartfear2205]

Just finished Frank's book last night. Very clear and concise writing.

[@SeanMcDowell]

Agreed 💯

[@wanick2]

If you son says "I'm Batman" you wouldn't start digging a Bat Cave.

[@allthingsnu4673]

Thank you, Sean and Frank, for this very interesting discussion.

[@maleanewborn9073]

I’ve been wondering why NOBODY seems to notice that every single law is saying that particular action is morally wrong! Why is theft illegal? They decided it’s wrong. Murder. Disorderly conduct! Public intoxication! All of them. Even family law etc. but as far as the gay and trans subject I only care what God says on the subject and I believe that is all that will change hearts

[@tomyossarian7681]

Rest assured, Zeus is perfectly fine with all that. Btw, isn't your god down with heavy, industrial scale incest? 🤭

[@Ruby-wise]

Outstanding conversation! TY both.

[@michaelsbeverly]

16:37 "Why not 3?" Well, Frank, if you actually read your Bible you'll see that polygamy isn't outlawed so, there you go, if a woman is sterile, the man, in your view, it seems to be logical, should get a second wife, you know, to produce kids. Like some of the Bible figures did. Or no, you've got a double standard? As usual....

[@CH-wo5uy]

Hi Shawn! I love your videos and appreciate how polite and respectful you are to communities you disagree with! I feel that Dr. Frank Turek did not do trans ideology justice as a trans person I feel very misrepresented. I would really love if you could have someone who represents my side of the debate on to talk! I regretfully do not have any recommendations as I am not as engaged with the online debate community as I used to be. I really appreciate your desire to foster understand rather than to "win the argument" and I will continue to watch and support your content, thanks!

[@FronteirWolf]

Sometimes you have to step back from online debate. It can be really fun and challenging in a good way and it sharpens your arguments, but it also takes a lot of energy. Take as much time away from it as you want and come back to it when you are going to find it enjoyable. It's okay not to engage, which is advice I sometimes need to remember when I don't feel up to countering an a argument I disagree with.

[@CelticSpiritsCoven]

What did Frank say that was incorrect about Trans? Be specific please. Oh, and Frank wasn't on to "affirm" Trans. What makes you think you actually changed your gender? Be specific please.

[@alanrussell8216]

As with the other podcasts by Sean McDowell, this is a balanced and respectful discussion of what is a difficult societal issue. Thank you, both participants!

[@clm3436]

Intersex though rare (1 in 4000) is something that folks need to understand in this argument.

[@starwarsjk99]

1 in 4000 from a population of 8 Billion is 2 million people. That’s more than the populations of some small countries. They should be treated seriously and shouldn’t be neglected.

[@markshaneh]

@@starwarsjk99 intersex people have always been prioritised and respected in the medical field , these people have genuine biological abnormalities. Trans people are not part of this conversation and visa versa.

[@gavtalk958]

Right. Matthew 19:12 might be important here. Jesus is perhaps referring to people born intersex or asexual. I'm no theologian but on face value at least the text implies that this category has existed across the ages. And Jesus is not calling for their isolation or any negative thing.

[@TrishWragg]

I think the odds are more than that. I worked in a children’s hospital and with kids for 32 years and came across 2 in over 30000 plus kids

[@whatweretheythinking3274]

Intersex is an anomaly. Treating a physical genetic anomaly isn't the same thing as chemically castrating kids and changing their brain and body chemistry. In 11 Dutch studies, only 20% of kids who started transition in childhood persisted beyond age 18. Of the kids who persisted, every one of them was taking male castration drugs, puberty blockers, cross sex hormones. No child persisted without being medicated to create and perpetuate the dysphoria....and will need to continue this medication for the entire lifespan to maintain the dysphoria. Not even one. Without medication, dysphoria resolved during normal adolescence and puberty. This is definitive proof that these medications, designed to change body and brain chemistry, play a major role in dysphoria that doesn't resolve naturally. To conflate this intentional meddling with a child's brain and body with treating a genetic anomaly isn't honest. The intersex person needs no medication to exist as they are born.

[@JoeCool0510]

Certainly it is important to discuss and point out the flaws in the ideology, but it is also necessary to address the emotional aspects of this situation. People are hurting and they are turning to this ideology for fulfillment. If you can't address this hurt and offer an alternative path to fulfillment then it just becomes another battle in the culture wars with the victims left along the roadside.

[@lisabusbyjames2081]

How would Dr. Frank recommend Christian parents handle their child who “comes out”?

[@toriloren4038]

Counselling

[@lisakurak3733]

In the 90's, Facebook was supposed to be for 13 and older but there was no way of policing it if someone signed up a child or if a child figured out how to sign up. Most parents signed their kid up and dismissed the rule like it was merely a suggestion.

[@isaiahceasarbie5318]

Love Frank Turek. He has a way with words!

[@HarryNicNicholas]

like a snake did in the garden of eden eh.

[@AlrightDave]

​@@HarryNicNicholaswhat's your point?

[@MicheMoffatt]

This is a great video - thanks guys! I am so grateful that my parents are Christian, and that i found the Lord when i was young. I always felt so out of place, and hated pink and stereotypical girly things…… but i knew I loved the Lord, and knew i was a girl….. and was so blessed that i was encouraged to find my identity in Christ, and not create some identity like so many people are being encouraged to do today. I think the further people sway from theism, and relationship with God - we see this world descend to real disorder and chaos, and it is heart breaking for the children today. The amount of detransitioner stories and high rates of general mental ill health with the young people today is worrying. We need to definitely pray for the world, and not be frightened to stand up for what is right, and what is true. People will often call good “evil,” and evil good nowadays - not because they believe it to be so, but are frightened of the recourse if they speak up.

[@seamusweber8298]

Excellent interview. Frank uses simple logic throughout the first part of this interview to demolish the opposite side. Excellent points made throughout

[@anthonydesimone502]

He brings up 1 or 2 points that are worth more discussion. The rest is falsified empirical claims and fallacies. No destruction in sight.

[@positivea9111]

@@anthonydesimone502Can you tell it then if it true

[@myoneblackfriend3151]

Hey Sean, I saw this over on your Twitter so I came to hear both of your tales on this matter.

[@SeanMcDowell]

Thanks for coming over. Saw your comment on Twitter.

[@myoneblackfriend3151]

@@SeanMcDowell You are most welcome, Dr. McDowell. I finished listening to this episode today. I, once again, disagree with Mr. Turek. He clearly shared his compassion on this issue. There are a lot of success stories for trans people too. I am a co-host of a podcast that discusses religion. I am an Atheist that used to believe in the Christian god. I remind my co-host and listeners that Christianity actually does help some people be better people. There are millions or billions of success stories. When it comes to making legislation it is important to know where laws may succeed and fail. I support there being a minimum age before transformative medications are deployed for those who want a sex change. I support a higher minimum age for surgeries. I don’t support blocking their bodily autonomy for life. The laws go too far when they do. If nothing else more compassion is needed and not simply more rules for those wrestling with their body’s genitals. We have several trans listeners in our audience. If you would be open to speaking with a few of them, please let me know the best way they should contact you. I enjoy your podcasts because you are very genuine and you will correct your guests if they are mistaken about something the Bible says. That matters, Dr. McDowell. Once again, we’ll done.

[@rossturner3397]

Gender vs. Sex synonym is a slippery slope in the lost battle of our language. Sex = Biological. Gender = Linguistics. The language itself should be supporting, not disintegrated from one another. For example: Look at that boy over there, "HE" is very handsome. We would not say: "Look at that male over there, male is very handsome." The pronoun supports the biological sex and is supportive in language. If you tell a lie long enough (gender and sex are different), people begin to believe that there is truth to the claim.

[@hermac6491]

Thank you for the stand that you are taking. Young people are so confused and their parents are such a mess that they are excepting everything!!!

[@palladin1337]

It's funny how I hear versions of this line so much, and yet almost no one who uses it can provide specific sources, statistics, or even just some names. It's almost like *it's an empty straw man.*

[@reynahrunya5897]

Yes we promote it ourselves. What about them who donot have a know how of what is going on in the political realm? God intervene in all these Amen

[@GG-fs6yp]

Exactly! Point so well made when Turek said we do not cut off body parts for a mental condition. When did the AMA change their societies ethics? Of course ethics are defined as temporary now and said to evolve to meet demands of what people feel. But, feelings change… hummm

[@avishevin1976]

If you don't want to, that's your business, but why should your idiocy be allowed to persecute other people?

[@CelticSpiritsCoven]

@@avishevin1976 Why should the Atheist cult religion be used to persecute other people? Without a Moral Law, there would be nothing objectively wrong with: *Christians or Muslims forcibly imposing their religion on Atheists. *Outlawing Atheism. *Confiscating the property of Atheists. *Gay-Bashing. *Racism. *Imperialistic wars. *Prohibiting abortion. *Birth control. *Limiting kinds of sex between consenting adults. *R*pe. Without the Moral Law, Atheists have no moral grounds to argue for their pet political causes. There is no right to an abortion, homosexual sex, or any of their other political sacraments because in a non-theistic world there are no rights. Unless Atheists claim that there is a God and that his Moral Law condones or commands these activities, then their positions are nothing more than their own subjective preferences. And no one is under any moral obligation to agree with mere preferences or to allow Atheists to legislatively impose them on the rest of us. So by rebelling against the Moral Law, Atheists have, ironically, undermined their grounds for rebelling against anything. In fact, without the Moral Law, no one has any objective grounds for being for or against anything! But since we all know that issues involving life and liberty are more than mere preferences-that they involve real moral rights-then the Moral Law exists.

[@morganpauls1873]

@@avishevin1976 you did not address the points made by the comment you respond to

[@avishevin1976]

@@morganpauls1873 If you say so.

[@jdcan29837]

Two questions: 1) How should Christians respond to friends and family members who transition? The reason I'm asking is because one of my friends was finally in his 70's diagnosed as intersex. As a child he regularly had his "equipment" examined by doctors but no one told him what was going on. Doctors would hum and hah but never tell him what was wrong. As early as three years of age, he felt he was really a girl and not a boy. This feeling continued all his life. Finally, last year he transitioned to a female. (While he did have almost non-existent male equipment, he also had high female hormone levels and physical indicators of intersex physiology but only was told this recently.) The problem comes from his prior history. He met a wonderful woman and married her. They were never able to have normal sex because of the lack of equipment and the fact that it would rarely work. However, a miracle happened and two children were eventually born (doctors said the births were indeed miracles). This mom died. The dad transitioned. And now that their father has transitioned, the two Christian children refuse to see their dad, will not communicate with her, and will not let her see the grandchildren. @SeanMcDowell, what would you say our Christian response should be to people who are intersex and people who transition? 2) not sure on Frank's intersex statistical number. I've read much higher incidents of intersex. Anyone know what recent credible research numbers are (and have citations)?

[@CelticSpiritsCoven]

Him. The children don't want to see "Him". Sorry, but you can't change your gender and "intersex" is birth defect that he overcame and used his "equipment" to make a woman pregnant. He is clearly a man. Why should the children want to see him? Just because he's their father who is sinning? Maybe they don't want to be around the Devil. Maybe they are praying for him from a distance. Why would he torture his own children by doing this? He's clearly being a bad father. Fathers shouldn't alienate their own children by forcing over them something that is clearly against the core beliefs of their religion. Why are the children being the evil ones in this scenario? I think the evil one is the father.

[@marlenr8691]

I’m not him, but Jesus was always around the people who needed him the most.

[@niceguyrides]

Cat is not out of the bag in my house…. My daughter doesn’t do social media at all.

[@lifebeginstoday10]

Good for you. How old 🗝️ s your daughter?

[@Jesse622]

This is a great example of one of my favorite quotes. “With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.” Steven Weinberg

[@texasrex2557]

If this gender self identification was around and validated back in the 80's when I was 16 years old, I would have said I self identify as a 25 year old so I could buy beer any time.

[@avishevin1976]

You deserve to have your penis shredded in a weed whacker.

[@MrsMeganDyer]

😂

[@Kingofthenet2]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@patriciacesar6500]

My name is Jazz. A boy trans into a girl on TLC. HORRIFIC STORY. SO SAD

[@stephaniebach__12-24]

Jazz’s mom brainwashed him since he was two.. sold her own son out for money and a tv show.. disgusting and infuriating.. and heartbreaking for the boy

[@edelmirapascual2260]

Sooo sad for Jaz😢! My heart goes out for you! But I hope you come out to educate others. To save them.​@@stephaniebach__12-24😮