10 Affirming Arguments for Same-Sex Unions: A Biblical Response

[@terrybain828]

People who are same-sex attracted are not the only ones that may be deprived from having a sex life. I have been a widow for 4 years, and before that, my husband was not capable of having sexual relations for many years. God is gracious and has helped me remain sexually moral. When we are committed to Him, he will help us honour Him by remaining sexually pure no matter what our sexual orientation is.

[@sharonyoung8251]

This is right on. I’ve been widowed for 20 years and living without sex I had to make the choice often. Sex outside marriage with the opposite sex is a struggle for many as well.

[@sharonyoung8251]

I am learning much from this discussion. Thank you.

[@sharonyoung8251]

I am so encouraged that many churches today are focusing on “life groups” as the community part of the organized church. As I have been widowed 20 years, I am so thankful for the ladies in my life group. We have a deep love for one another and walk this journey together. Community is so important and only in small groups can those relationships grow.

[@nlavigne92292]

It is not just about sex. It's about love... the same love that you had with your husband. I can’t believe that an all good all loving god that made me in his image and made me this way would tell me to not love.

[@sunsets1209]

​​@@nlavigne92292 Rebecca made a point about christians being single or not experiencing love I fall into this category I've never had love it may not happen for me. God calls us to so many things. So it really boils down to do you actually genuinely believe the bible or not if you do you crucify yourself with Christ. Or if you don't then you may have your own conclusions like I don't think a loving God would... instead God said.

[@andyalford7487]

2nd Timothy 4:3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, We are definitely there.

[@haroldmsimmons]

And it's going to get worse. Lord Jesus come quickly!

[@DiscipleJameson]

oh my gosh, for some reason, whenever I read a prophecy about the future from the Bible, it makes me cry because it just re-affirms how true the Bible is and I wish others would come to also accept the truth of the Bible!!

[@almajor7581]

This is true. Some people will twist the truth to accommodate easy philosophy

[@socjolog90]

​@@almajor7581especially drunkards and drug users. I'm sad when I see how many time people spend to spread homophobia and they can spend this time to judge people who choose antiGod life: atheists, multiple divorcers, people who had ever use marijuana or other crap, drunkards.

[@aerogers4117]

I am Christian, female, heterosexual, 66 yrs old, never married (not my choice) and thus celibate and alone. So as far as people who say they can’t live without sex, yes you can. As far as the church, the body of Christ, my experience is that they unfortunately tend to ignore single, never married, childless adults; presumably because of lack of common life experiences.

[@melodysledgister2468]

Times are changing. There are more singles now than ever before. I am sad for the younger generations. Marriage has fallen out of favor. More people are single by choice, and subsequently not by choice, than ever before, it seems.

[@qujo777]

At least Paul definitely affirms your position ;)

[@JedidjahSlagter]

You will be able to have a complete and fulfilled life

[@ReneWrinkle767]

Great comment. You’re exactly right. Thanks for sharing

[@Ellenkay-re6qg]

it's often a bit easier for women than for men, although I realize not everyone is wired the same; Estrogen can cause issues but testosterone is a very strong factor in libido and of course, culturally it's less frowned upon for men to be randy than it is for women. I'm not excusing men for sleeping around at all in this, just pointing out the biological differences in motivation concerning sex. On the non-sexual aspect,, I feel sorry for men in the sense of they are not culturally allowed to be very physically affectionate with other people. Some men do hug but in general, it's more frowned upon for men to be affectionate the same way women are expected or at least allowed, to be. The culture looks upon men that are affectionate either as a wimp or a pervert for being as affectionate as the average woman is. Now, that said, testosterone may factor in here (biological and cultural both) and cause many men not to really need all of the compassionate affection that women do (and especially needing to cry on someone's shoulder). But emotionally, I honestly think a lot of men who turn to drugs and alcohol are really needing to be held and genuinely loved. It can't heal all wounds but it's a normal human need. Human beings need human touch (it's been proven medically) but separating the lines between innocent vs sexual affection have been blurred and confused (at least in our culture/society). I'm not sure what the solution for this is. I can tell you that many married men would have a problem asking their wife "I need to be held". If you need to be held, you need to be held. But I get men aren't comfortable asking anyone, even their wives. Prayers for all men on this issue!! Ladies, please try and understand.

[@johnpacino007]

The Bible stated it’s an abomination. Plain & simple!

[@not-normal771]

Bingo!

[@abnerasturias6380]

Well, the Lord GOD Jesus issssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss called PRINCE OF PEACE (Isaiah 9:6) but --- the Bible quotes HIM saying, “Do you think that I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I tell you, but division.” (Luke 12:51) … Also, “But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father in heaven. 34Do not assume that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to turn ‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.…” (Matthew 10:33-35) ………………………………………………………………………. CONTEXT... CONTEXT ... CONTEXTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ...........................

[@abnerasturias6380]

Well, the Lord GOD Jesus issssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss called PRINCE OF PEACE (Isaiah 9:6) but --- the Bible quotes HIM saying, “Do you think that I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I tell you, but division.” (Luke 12:51) … Also, “But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father in heaven. 34Do not assume that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to turn ‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.…” (Matthew 10:33-35) ………………………………………………………………………. CONTEXT... CONTEXT ... CONTEXTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ............................

[@thatoneguy9473]

But you have to be able to go deeper to be able to communicate and evangelize these people.

[@not-normal771]

@@thatoneguy9473 Reprobates are on their own. They made their choice. Also, (John 6:44) No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. In other words, it's not our responsibility to evangelize. The ones who are meant to know Him, will have the opportunity when the Lord wills it.

[@perfect12386]

Before I was a Christian I was incredibly lonely. I was letting men use my body. Now that I'm a Christian, I've never felt more loved and never had so much love to give out. I would never go back to my life before Christ. What I have now is so much more.

[@LucianoCoronel-hp5rdqr]

Always remember to be true to yourself because only the solitaries will enter the bridal chamber, just because you belong to a group it never guarantees your salvation it’s a personal relationship with Him.

[@dmsonline515]

Remember, judgement day is coming! No matter how we justify sin, condone sin, word-twist the scriptures, homosexuality is sin.

[@luciferbeelzebub7168]

prove judgement day is real and coming

[@dmsonline515]

@@luciferbeelzebub7168 IT IS WRITTEN...REVELATIONS 20:13 "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. REVELATIONS 20:15 "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."

[@RaiderWolf-yd6nm]

@NickGagnon942 _Nope. Nothing wrong with homosexuality at all._ Neither denial or subjective personal feelings, such as your comment there, ever negates that which is being denied. So, to the contrary, very much wrong with it.

[@williamdodds1394]

@@luciferbeelzebub7168 And your boss Lucifer is first fruits then the rest will join him in the lake.

[@williamdodds1394]

@NickGagnon942 Not to those that do it but unto God its Vile sodom is an example were they were burned to a crisp.

[@drmichaelshea]

No. I’ve read the bible twice in the past year and saw nothing affirming homosexual behavior. Not a single phrase.

[@nzivkovich3993]

That's right. We do know who loves to pervert the Holy Word of God, the little god of this world. Holding the hands with the devil while saying they walk with Holy God of the Bible, is still abomination to Him.

[@metapolitikgedanken612]

@@nzivkovich3993 Just make sure you know what "Word of God" means.... Hint IT IS NOT the bible. And it is silly by fundies to continue insisting that it is. You are however correct that the bible doesn't have one positive thing to say about homosexuality. The LGBT crowd will however go on and twist words and meanings to make it appear to people that it does.

[@melodysledgister2468]

I’ve read it through twice too. Most people who affirm the Bible affirms homosexuality have never read it.

[@adamruuth5562]

To be fair, when teh bible was written they didn't know better than to be bigots.

[@metapolitikgedanken612]

@@adamruuth5562 "when teh bible was written they didn't know better than to be bigots" Now that's a very bigoted statement.

[@jetmanjayjay4604]

In 1997, while living at 5412 berks street in Philadelphia with my elder sister, one day I left the apartment on foot to a dollar store to buy two meatball platters with spaghetti that the store sold for a dollar. I went into the dollar store and made the purchase. As I was done paying for the things I bought, I headed for the exit door. On my way to the exit door, a white lady was ahead of me to the exit door who had likewise purchased some items from the store. As I headed home on foot, she was going in my direction and in front. Suddenly, she dropped a small black wallet but kept on walking not realizing the wallet was not with her. People walking on the street were coming from behind and in front of us. Having realized this, I felt that if I walked over the wallet, the next person behind or in front coming my way that happens to see the wallet, could pick it up and decide not to return it to the rightful owner. Furthermore, I thought that if she got home and realized the wallet was not with her, she would be distraught depending on the content of the wallet. So I picked up the wallet and ran after her, yelling mam, mam. She turned around and I handed the wallet to her saying, “Mam you dropped this”. After collecting the wallet from me, she asked me a question by saying, “Who taught you how to do this? I said to her “JESUS CHRIST”. Then she said, “Thank you”, turned around, and went her way. As soon as she turned around and kept walking, a strong wind like a tornado came down from heaven and encircled me where I stood, and while in the midst of the whirlwind, it felt like someone was giving me the hug of a lifetime with tremendous peace. The peace was indescribable. Words would do it no justice. The wind was not destructive in nature but strong and gentle. People walking by did not realize what was happening because it was spiritual and only visible to me that day. Enveloped by the whirlwind, I felt like staying there forever because it felt glorious, so peaceful and full of such love indescribable that it was mind blowing as it happened. Next, the glorious Father from the excellent glory spoke out of the whirlwind with these words, “I AM WELL PLEASED BECAUSE YOU GLORIFIED MY SON JESUS CHRIST”. As soon as God the Father spoke out of the whirlwind these words, He instantly filled my heart with indescribable joy. The whirlwind remained with me for about 16 to 17 seconds after I heard those words with the arms of the Father in the whirlwind wrapped around me and then gently it dissipated from the scene and went up to heaven. This happened in broad daylight between the hours of 10 a.m. and 11a.m near city line avenue in Philadelphia. After this supernatural experience in a physical reality called time, I have never doubted the truth of the existence of God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost as clearly presented in the Holy Scriptures.

[@hanachang1]

Praise God! He is a very personal God to each one of us!!!

[@josknwg9173]

What an amazing encounter beloved 😊 To God be all the glory . Have learnt how to glorify JESUS. Blessings dear . Joseph from uganda 🇺🇬 east africa.

[@karenlebron-morales8672]

Thank you for sharing this glorious experience with God.

[@Jeanettesboxingchannel]

amen!

[@crystalbrutscher3115]

were you a believing Christian prior to this? Or were you maybe raised in the church but had not had a transforming experience with Christ prior to this?

[@tipmel750]

Thanks Sean, great interview. Sad that so many people comment when clearly they haven't watched

[@elizabethryan2217]

I think there are bots on the prowl ..

[@ChalkboardCreativeHomeschool]

I watched the interview and other interviews that he has had with Biola University and find the platforming of Side B Christians extremely concerning.

[@prattacaster]

Well, I already know all the answers to everything. 😝

[@hpetterson2265]

Right?! It's so silly!

[@brucemcqueen5395]

You cannot simply focus on the love of God, because allowing people to believe that they are right when they are still in their sins is not showing God's love.

[@justifiedbyfaith6511]

Exactly.

[@TheWayWalker]

Amen

[@tracyjensen2564]

Yes!

[@dawnricherson2604]

No. It is an abomination to the Lord because it perverts God’s will for marriage: one man and one woman. Period.

[@anthonywillis7634]

God’s will is Love. Love is the very nature of God on every level. Love is the key in everything we do! If a gay couple can fulfil Jesus 2 greatest commandments then I think we need to be careful about what that Biblical interpretation actually means.

[@Esthermyrrh]

@@anthonywillis7634eternally wrong

[@The_Word_Is_The_Way]

​@@anthonywillis7634No. Love God is the highest commandment, then love your neighbor like yourself follows. This is a summation of the 10 commandments. Furthermore, not all love is approved in the Bible.

[@The_Word_Is_The_Way]

​@@anthonywillis7634 God's will is that we repent!

[@elsacooper1769]

The title should read : 'A biblical response to 10 affirming arguments...' There is not enough room in the set formatting for the full title. The wording of the title unfortunately gives the wrong impression to people who don't take the time to look properly. Before commenting that someone is a heretic at least do your due diligence: read the full description, and and listen properly all the way through. Thank you to Sean for you excellent, faith-building interviews, and having the honesty and care to deal with uncomfortable topics.

[@brettwheeler7753]

It's only uncomfortable to those who practice and TRY to justify their sinful behavior .

[@abnerasturias6380]

Well, the Lord GOD Jesus issssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss called PRINCE OF PEACE (Isaiah 9:6) but --- the Bible quotes HIM saying, “Do you think that I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I tell you, but division.” (Luke 12:51) … Also, “But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father in heaven. 34Do not assume that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to turn ‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.…” (Matthew 10:33-35) ………………………………………………………………………. CONTEXT... CONTEXT ... CONTEXTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ............................

[@MrEmeralddog]

Fix the title Sean please!!

[@andrewwoode]

​@abnerasturias6380 Due to the offense of the gospel, that is way Jesus said that. It would divide household because of who is their master. But He is the prince of peace indeed. The world finds no peace with Him, but He is the utmost perfect peace to us

[@abnerasturias6380]

@@andrewwoode Thank you for Lecturing to the Choir !!! ................... But --- the POINTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT is, Homosexual Relationships BY and IN ITSELF is NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT Prohibited in the Bible !!! ........................ UNDERSTAND ???

[@stephenm8233]

No… The question in of itself is absurd.

[@ar2851]

Exactly

[@FaithInExile]

In this day and age, with the way many churches are addressing this issue, this is needed more than ever!

[@eugenetswong]

Yes. Thank you. It's frustrating to see people act as if the question is still open. By acting as if we are not satisfied on an intellectual level, we can act as if the issue is still open. That's not God's will.

[@OrangeMonkey2112]

Exactly

[@RationalistMH]

And he went over this issue like a THOUSAND times by now. Unfortunately, it seems Evangelicals just love controversy for its own sake.

[@g-man3847]

“Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.” (Deut. 4:2.)

[@catfurbiehat]

I read the title and didn’t know where this was going to go but I’m glad I stuck it out, thank you Rebecca for equipping us properly with how to counter these common same sex claims. Really well explained points that all direct us to Christ.

[@drsusieg]

This should be a very short vlog. According to Romans, it's a certain NO.

[@SeanMcDowell]

I agree but there’s a lot of challenges today that we need to respond to-hence the video!

[@robertj5208]

I have 4 pages of notes and have ordered the book. Brilliant discussion!

[@ivandgr8224]

The Bible, being the infallible word of God, cannot change. Jesus is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, so He loves thevsinner and not the sin. Trying to justify that this very wrong act is permissible in today's world is itself blasphemy. You may have studiedthe Bible through and through but if you do not obey what God says and manipulate it to please your carnal desires as well as influence others and encourage to indulge in this abominable act is itself a sin. Obviously the devil will dilute the Word of God. Next, you will be saying the abortion and adultery is allowed as per the Bible for the modern times. Telling that it is offensive and hateful not to allow same-sex lust is blaming those true believers who have also studied the Bible, but more importantly been blessed by the Holy Spirit to know the undiluted, unabridged and unfiltered truth. God is love but God hates sin!@@SeanMcDowell

[@cindyseverson2917]

In the end time people will not beable to stand around doctrine. They will go to hear what their itchy ears want to hear. We are all sinners and a sin is a sin to God, we are to love the sinner, as we ourselves are sinners saved by grace. We are also to be in the world!, not of the world. What the world says is right and okay now days, is not Biblical.

[@joannetompkins7833]

@@ivandgr8224 have you watched the video?? They are not affirming it at all. They are giving biblical responses to common arguments claiming that homosexuality is fine.

[@HJJTsai]

my church celebrates single, when one is single, s/he is not tied to worldly obligations, s/he can simply be a more devoted Christian and given everything to God.

[@clementchou7995]

Thanks Sean. Great work as always... would love to watch another interview with Rachel Gilson! So grateful to both her and Rebecca for both of their work and ministry, genuine but always grounded in scripture and backed up by sound reasoning!

[@shellybulla8089]

Most of these comments are from people that didn’t listen all the way through. I highly recommend her book if you are trying to counsel anyone in a same sex relationship. She plainly says homosexual relationships are sin as are any sexual relationships outside of a marriage between one man and one woman.

[@joevasanu7459]

Dr. McLaughlin, thank you for the glorification you give to God. Your words start with issues involving same sex, but as I listened to you, the work of the Holy Spirit in you to go so far beyond the outward topic spoke so clearly to the whole Gospel of how Jesus’ love for us transcends all for all of us sinners. You are a true sister in Christ. Love to you-Peace be with you

[@brennakohlhase4194]

Your comment on loneliness is spot on and the church is guilty of catering to married folks and often makes marriage the ultimate goal when it is never stated as such in the Bible, more the opposite is true-you are free to minister when single without any ties or distractions. Also marriage/“soul mate” mentality as idolatry is a rampant problem in our modern society. We will kneel alone before Jesus someday to give our account and there will be no spouses in heaven. He is to be our “soul mate” plain and simple.

[@robertj5208]

Gives me much to think about regarding the mission of our church, and myself personally.

[@TerryNagle07]

I agree Brenna. The church's attitude toward single people has cause me to stay away from church bc there is no place for me there and I am always being viewed as incomplete and my views are not valid bc I do not have a complete life expirience. It can be very painful and alienating but thankfully Jesus more that fills the gap.

[@brennakohlhase4194]

@@TerryNagle07 I’m so sorry you have experienced that…If Paul were alive today he’d be seeking out people like you to go where no one has gone before and those who have had a marriage experience with the Lamb before they get to heaven. Be brave-Terry!

[@Amrcin]

Marriage may not be for everyone, Jesus himself said this, but marriage is from God, it's God's invention. So wanting to be in marriage is not wrong, or seeking to be in marriage is not wrong. It's normal human desire, the only thing that can be bad is someone's reason for being in marriage. If your only motivation to be in marriage is sex for example, then it is wrong. But marriage in itself isn't wrong, because it was made by God for humans.

[@godschild2432]

One of the best if not the best guest you have had….she speak with such wisdom, obedience to Gods Word and self denial..amen

[@robertj5208]

Amen!!!!

[@jingles009]

It is CRYSTAL CLEAR in the Bible about same sex marriage. There is no room for a "different interpretation." You do have control over having a same sex relationship or not. You just don't want to. So you bend the teachings to "allow you" to justify what you want to do. Your search isn't a search for truth, it is a search for you to justify your sin.

[@jasonguillou6813]

Watch the whole video before commenting. Merely a suggestion! 😎

[@jetmanjayjay4604]

Thank you Sean McDowell and Rebecca McLaughlin for this interview that I see is clearly a call to true faith in Christ alone. God bless you

[@Josh.Proctor]

The last one felt easy to refute, at least in my own mind. That God's love can't be against relationships of love. Because there are lots of things and people we can love. We can love false idols, even turn people into idols, spouse, children, family, friends. But just because you love something or someone so much, even if it feels genuine and intense and makes you feel good, does not mean it's a permissible love. Scripture even specifically talks about loving two masters, or loving God and mammon. Loving something or someone is not a free for all. If it's the sort of love that falls outside of God's intended purpose for love, then He very clearly condemns it, and we see evidence of this throughout scripture.

[@duncescotus2342]

Ah, but God's love is above all relationships, even those of love: "He who loves father and mother more than me is not worthy of me."

[@marssionary]

If we are ordering church where single Chrisitans are lonely, we are utterly failing. AMEN!!!! YES!!!!

[@tgleo1]

Rebecca speaks with such astounding clarity! This is an amazing hour. Thank you both!

[@dragonsigner]

Leviticus 18:22 in the Bible says, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination" That is simple to the point . How hard is that hard to understand Where is the word homosexual in that verse? Why don't you go to the Hebrew language too ... Or the Greek

[@steelhurricane4041]

God is clear on this sin. No excuse.

[@Dirk80241]

Rebecca speaks truth. At 8:20: nobody is ultimately owned by their desires. Every person who wants to follow Jesus receives the two-fold call to repent and to believe. This is so true, and this is the right answer to the ‘inclusive’ argument. It is your and my responsibility to respond to any temptation to sin (including same sex attraction) by relying on Jesus and denying ourselves, and obey him.

[@anthonycarbone3826]

Love is a very vague term, I would say there is a vast difference between saying I love a woman, love a dog, love chocolate cake, love a book, love a movie, and finally love a favorite piece of furniture. If I have sex with my favorite book then having sex with it is not a proper proof of any real love for that item. It is not the emotion that is in question, it is the action towards that object where the problem lays. There are actions that are normal and still bestow a certain shade of love and there are actions that totally have nothing to do with a real definition of love. Sex can be done between people that love each other, and between people that have no emotional relationship.

[@eugenetswong]

God says to love our enemies, and he clearly agapes his enemies, so to speak about love in the context of tolerating homosexual marriage is quite inappropriate. [edit: my comment isn't a response to you; it's something unrelated that should be factored into this whole issue]

[@anthonycarbone3826]

@@eugenetswong I have never heard the term agape before. Learn something new everyday. I thought at first it was a spelling mistake and had to look it up.

[@eugenetswong]

@@anthonycarbone3826 No kidding. Tell me about it. The KZbin comment section schools me every day. It gets frustrating. 😀

[@brettwheeler7753]

@Anthonycarbone3826 Yeah, it's all Greek to me! 😂

[@bree_nicole]

@@brettwheeler7753😂I see what you did there!

[@thetruthtrumpsallliesfromt4399]

Why should we be offended if we are sinners? Shouldn’t we be humbled knowing that pride does not make our sins go away? I abhor people using semantics to justify sin of any kind, mines included.

[@monr457]

Same sex relationship should be a NO especially in marriage

[@monr457]

Shellfish law is cultural, same sex law is universal

[@deankirkpatrick7658]

@@monr457 in satan's world - but not in the LOVING GOD's

[@ADxtraIsHere]

@@deankirkpatrick7658 How would that be "Satan's world"?

[@monr457]

@@deankirkpatrick7658 thats a deceiving statement. An all accepting God is not a loving God. Truth is love and love is truth. Denial of truth is a sin and not loving

[@roadkill6705]

Powerful. lovely testimony Dr. McLaughlin. Thank you.

[@Karen-e3z9l]

This was THE BEST use of an hour. It was so full of good answers, but more than anything, it convinced me anew of Jesus’ great love for me. Thank you, Sean, for this platform.

[@markmorris8410]

I really enjoy every opportunity that I have to hear Rebecca. Her reasoning is always very sound. Thanks for having her on, Sean! Continued Blessings

[@kathycasey9521]

Thanks for this great episode. It’s helpful to have responses to the objections people bring up about this.

[@brettwheeler7753]

God loves sinners, as we are all sinners, but God despises sinful behavior! We don't get a free pass just for "believing" in Christ! Even Satan believes in Christ. "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God." 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Sweetheart, you don't get to "interpret" God's TRUTH! And drop the "I was born this way" BS. Diabetics don't get to eat a ton of sugar because they were born that way! BTW, there is NOT a "gay gene".

[@steelhurricane4041]

They enjoy their sin, and will try and twist the truth of God's Holy Word. Shameful.

[@o.ronquillo]

@@steelhurricane4041 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. And that is what some of you were. were is the key

[@steelhurricane4041]

​@@o.ronquilloyes, I agree. The old man crucified with Christ and the new man alive in Christ.

[@SpanishwithNeena]

Excellent conversation! Thank you, Sean and Rebecca.

[@saral6978]

What a powerful ending. Rebecca has truly been gifted with Godly wisdom. Thank you for this interview, Sean! I will be for sure getting her book!

[@timyoder2541]

Thank you both for a fascinating program. I spent 50 years in the homosexual lifestyle before Jesus literally pulled me out. I ordered Dr. Mclaughlin 's book just to help me answer the questions from friends who are still in the lifestyle.

[@midimusicforever]

This is a very important video in our day and age.

[@RonMo54]

As a dad with a daughter in a same sex relationship this discussion is helping me with my own journey and understanding of what scripture is actually saying. Thank you!

[@aaaaaaaa9189]

do you care more about your ideology or your kid?

[@duncescotus2342]

We pray for victory.

[@pigdestr0yer1973]

I also bought into the "critical" interpretation of the Sodom story (that it was really about hospitality etc). Bought if you read it carefully: Why did Lot offer up his daughters? Of course it was for sexual purposes - and therefore, what the crowd was after, in the story, was to have sex with the visiting men (who were really angels). So no, it´s not about "hospitality". It´s about sin. The "old school" interpretation is clearly the correct one.

[@terrymah1143]

Great interview. Very informative. Helps me in understanding.Thank you both.

[@IrishFuryan]

87 statements in the Bible says no

[@jondavidsenn5012]

I’m not challenging you, but I would personally love to see the references to all 87. Seems like a good resource to have and I’m not that studied on the subject

[@anthonywillis7634]

God’s very nature is love. All that God is and what He desires is love. If a gay couple can fulfil Jesus 2 greatest commandments then we can be confident that there are interpretation issues.

[@olgaplatt9221]

Thank you for briging theses relevant topics and great authors.

[@RaiderWolf-yd6nm]

About shellfish, it's curious that no one makes the same argument against the prohibition to stealing or lying that they do to homosexuality. They cherry pick the part about shellfish and mixed fabrics. So by their logic, because we allow shellfish and mixed fabrics, we shoudl also allow stealing and lying and the "m" word that's the extremely sensitive powers that be won't let people say.

[@Esthermyrrh]

Cherry picking leads to eternal death

[@pamelaalphonso6292]

Thanks Sean! I thoroughly enjoyed the conversation as it's helpful in our understanding from God's word. Blessings xo

[@beaneater2152]

Wow. I had never heard of Dr. McLaughlin before. I have not heard this topic discussed this charitably, intelligently, clearly, and indeed pastorally ever before. May we all follow Dr. McLaughlin in holding Jesus as our highest treasure!

[@DanielGardner]

Important topic! Was in a hurry so I ran through chatGPT to get initial pointers. Will now watch the video to see how correct the AI was. Posting here in case anyone else wants to review in concise version: 1. **Christians should just focus on the gospel of God's love.** - Dr. McLaughlin argued that God's design for Christian marriage is inherently tied to the gospel of God's love, and that true love cannot be separated from God's design for marriage and our bodies. 2. **Jesus was silent on same-sex relationships.** - Dr. McLaughlin pointed out that Jesus did define marriage in Matthew 19, referring back to Genesis, where marriage is described as a union between male and female. She emphasized that Jesus' teachings on marriage implicitly exclude same-sex unions. 3. **God's judgment on Sodom isn't judgment on same-sex relationships.** - Dr. McLaughlin noted that the story of Sodom in Genesis is often misunderstood and that historical interpretations within the church have consistently viewed it as condemning same-sex sexual relationships. 4. **The Bible's prohibitions on same-sex relationships are outdated and culturally specific.** - Dr. McLaughlin explained that while some Old Testament laws are not reiterated in the New Testament, the prohibitions against same-sex relationships are reaffirmed, indicating their continued relevance. 5. **Paul condemns exploitative same-sex relationships, not consensual ones.** - Dr. McLaughlin argued that Paul's writings in the New Testament do not make a distinction between exploitative and consensual same-sex relationships, and that the prohibitions apply broadly to all same-sex sexual relationships. 6. **The concept of sexual orientation is modern and not addressed in the Bible.** - Dr. McLaughlin acknowledged that while the modern concept of sexual orientation is not explicitly addressed in the Bible, the biblical texts still provide clear guidance on sexual ethics and relationships. 7. **The Bible's overarching message is one of love and inclusion.** - Dr. McLaughlin emphasized that true love, according to the Bible, involves adhering to God's design for marriage and sexuality, and that inclusion does not mean affirming all behaviors. 8. **There are examples of same-sex relationships in the Bible that are positive.** - Dr. McLaughlin refuted this argument by stating that the examples often cited (e.g., David and Jonathan) do not involve sexual relationships and should not be interpreted as endorsements of same-sex unions. 9. **The Bible's teachings on marriage and sexuality are not meant to be taken literally.** - Dr. McLaughlin argued that the teachings on marriage and sexuality in the Bible are meant to be taken seriously and literally, as they reflect God's design and purpose for human relationships. 10. **The church has historically changed its stance on other issues, so it can change on this one too.** - Dr. McLaughlin countered that while the church has indeed changed its stance on some issues, the biblical teachings on marriage and sexuality have remained consistent and are rooted in the unchanging nature of God's design.

[@DTrueView]

Look at Romans 121 through seven about how God feels about same-sex relationships. Also, when you didn’t want to define, love you define love by who standards men’s or God. In the name of love do you say nothing to a loved one who is in pending because you love them, or do WARREN them because you love them, or do you say nothing so they’ll feel loved?

[@paulajames6149]

Love Rebecca’s perspective. Such wisdom and maturity. Thank you!!!

[@greatfilmmaker]

Paul is talking about practice. Amen not having the same attraction but practicing it

[@greatfilmmaker]

@@karl5395 1 Thessalonians 4:3-5 read it for yourself

[@bree_nicole]

@@karl5395True, but I think there is a difference though between lust and temptation. We cannot fully control when a thought pops into our head, but we CAN control wether we entertain and dwell on that thought, or flee from it and run to Jesus. Being tempted isn’t a sin. Allowing those thoughts to remain unbridled is.

[@cathy7382]

The same sex attractions are rooted in our fallen nature and should be thwarted

[@sharonlouise9759]

This was fantastic! I love Rebecca's heart, love for the Scriptures, but especially her love for Jesus. I simply wanted to add that even though Paul probably had a gift of celibacy, Paul had, and also needed, relationships with others within the church. Oh, yes. One comment from Rebecca which I give a hearty "amen" to was when she was talking about love and how rarely we see this applied to marriage, or even child rearing. I always like to say, "before my husband is my husband, he is also a brother in Christ and I am treat him as I would other believers." This is why I tell people, we should be glad if our spouse loves Jesus more and "hates" me because if that happens I will be loved more than I could even imagine. Awesome, awesome conversation.

[@ChristianPhilosemite]

As usual, your discussions are thought-provoking, evocative and elucidating, and your guests are inspiring and outstanding. God bless you both. Thanks again.

[@debbieconradie3389]

This discussion just puts me off becoming a Christian.

[@BertStubblebeard]

Another intelligent and helpful conversation on an important topic for Christians to get proper scriptural bearings about, many thanks.

[@karenpeterson5780]

Excellent interview. Thank you both so much! I'm going to go and buy the book now too!

[@paullane387]

I believe further consideration should be given to Genesis 19:4-9. ". . .THE MEN OF SODOM, both old and young, ALL THE PEOPLE FROM EVERY QUARTER, surrounded the house. 5 And they called to Lot and said to him, “WHERE ARE THE MEN who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may KNOW THEM CARNALLY. 6 So Lot went out to them through the doorway, shut the door behind him, 7 and said, “Please, my brethren, DO NOT DO SO WICKEDLY! 8. . .I have two daughters who have not known a man; please, LET ME BRING THEM OUT TO YOU, AND YOU MAY DO TO THEM AS YOU WISH, .”" The issue wasn't just 'gang rape'. . . . Homosexuality is obviously the sin that called for God's condemnation. Additionally, as spiritually weak as Lot was to offer his two daughters, he still instinctively knew that the men of Sodom's (all the people from every quarter) desire for homo-sex incited his appeal to "do not do so wickedly." This was a whole other level of sin.

[@PiRobot314]

I think this video has an interesting perspective. The video mentioned that one difference between affirming and non-affirming Christians has to do with an understanding of Biblical authority, and that may be true. I am curious what your thoughts are on an idea of accepting Jesus's teachings as authoritative while also recognizing Paul as a limited human. I don't think that everything Paul said needs to be seen as some sort of divine dictate because he was a particular person at a particular time. So maybe we could see Paul as more of a very significant and early commentary on Christianity rather than being a total moral authority

[@rebeccaippolito912]

Right.. why was so much weight put on what Paul thinks or says?

[@TGuard00014]

@@rebeccaippolito912 probably because his books are Holy Scripture and thus applicable to everyone throughout all of time. It’s like saying why do we listen to Daniel or the book of Genesis? Or James? Matthew doesn’t hold more weight than Romans neither of which holds more weight than Exodus, it’s all the Holy word of God. So no, Paul isn’t an early John MacArthur writing commentaries, he is an author of Holy Scripture that is of equal importance of anything that the gospels say.

[@housecry]

​@@rebeccaippolito912Don't you remember Luke 10:16? Jesus gave the Apostles authority to speak for Him. You should reread the Acts of the Apostles. Christ himself empowered Paul in Acts 9 and Acts 13. Paul regularly references this authority, especially in 1 Corinthians 10. Paul also makes a distinction between a command from the Lord and his own judgement for example in 1 Corinthians 25:7. All the Apostles are to be obeyed as though it were Christ himself.

[@dursty3226]

32:38 this is exactly the problem i come across with most "progressive Christians." they're very aware that the Bible is against certain things they support, and that the Bible is supportive of things they're against, but they don't believe Scripture is the authoritative word of God. one person decribed his view of the Bible as "man's attempt to eff the ineffable." he said that the Bible is not God's inspired word, but the words of many different humans trying to write down their experience of the divine. that they don't all agree with each other and they're all writing through their own personal interpretive lens, and so the Bible is merely a collection of contradictory personal stories regarding some of man's encounters with God. and there's no convincing these people they're wrong. because outside of Holy Spirit's guidance, his conclusion is a logical possibility. only God can draw people unto Himself. no amount of logic or reasoning or explaining on our part can bring people to believe. but for those who DO believe, videos like this are very edifying! your arguments are coming right from Scripture, and if God says something, it's good that we should listen! and it's good that we should help others listen as well.

[@Sirach144]

I’m gay. I’ve been celibate for 14 years. Love Jesus and God more.

[@sunsets1209]

Bless you. 💟

[@duncescotus2342]

You are a child of the most high God, the Lord omnipotent. Pray for me and my family.

[@lastchance8142]

I hate the fact that there are many homosexuals, and many heterosexuals who suffer in guilt and fear because our flesh is so weak. May God deliver us from this body.

[@greatfilmmaker]

It's a difference between slavery an indentured servitude

[@cynthiarm253]

Says one Christian sister to another: “You HAVE to love me.” I burst out in tears when l heard this…The problem of the worship and idolization of marriage in the church: it happens when we see a spouse or other human as a savior, not Jesus as our primary relationship. It happens when we give too much weight to earthly marriage rather than remember its use as a metaphor or symbol to represent Jesus’ love for His bride, or believers. This makes me think of nuns and priests, the idea being that they are single but ‘marry’ the Lord and lived in relationship with many other Christians (of course this is where many with same sex attraction had gravitated to). Yes as Christians we need to do SO MUCH BETTER loving each other, no matter marital status. It’s why church groups divided by ‘singles’, ‘married’, etc. were repellant to me in the past.

[@maryannblair9784]

Incredible breakdown of these arguments. I learned a lot listening. Did I miss it, or was there the point that many pagan forms of worship involved free and unrestrained acts of sex and would have been the reason to stay away from it? Also her beginning explanation of the exclusivity and inclusivity of Christianity was a very powerful insight. I will definitely consider her book for my library.

[@robertj5208]

I don’t think it was discussed. Might be in her book?

[@jeffb6979]

Great episode.. very informative on this very difficult topic.

[@rebeccaippolito912]

People have been freaked out about sexuality since the beginning of time.. therefore it is not surprising that most religions that were invented over time include such prejudices of homosexuals. It's VERY heartbreaking to see what a Pauline Fundamentalism religion has done to this poor woman. Think about it.. why would the one TRUE creator God of the universe.. wait hundreds of thousands of years (humans have been on earth that long) to FINALLY reveal himself to us.. and then ONLY do it to this small ethnic group of people???? Do we not believe that God would've had the omnipotence to send prophets to ALL nations?? And do it much sooner? Rebecca... i admire your dedication to God... that you would deny yourself a happy loving relationship with a person you could also be attracted to... but it is your choice to believe an OBVIOUSLY "man made" religion that you THINK would separate you from the one TRUE creator God who actually loves you "unconditionally" just as you are. My heart goes out to you but if you are truly happy with believing the "dogma" or Pauline Fundamentalism... i mean TRULY happy... than it isn't my place to tell you otherwise. I know that none if Sean's followers will comment this post because NONE of you have an explanation for the>>>why would god wait so long to reveal himself to us argument... which is the basis of my belief that Pauline Fundamentalism was made up by the Hebrews about 3000 years ago give or take. But please Sean followers... PLEASE TRY to explain the unexplainable.

[@jetmanjayjay4604]

Yes, Jesus clearly talked about same sex relations because he said in the beginning God made them male and female equally refuting today's condoning of same sex relations as good, acceptable and legal. He was the one in the middle of the two angels that were sent to deliver Lot and his family, and destroy Sodom and Gomorah for the sexual perversions of the cities which he also pointed to in his day as Christ.

[@not-normal771]

(Leviticus 18:22) Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

[@garfieldrobinson7837]

This was a blessing. Wonderful presentation.

[@buliglasgow]

This is such a great video. Genuine and helpful. Practical help at the end

[@foreveryoungnz]

I subscribe to a lot on KZbin but yours is the best Sean! This one was outstanding, and not just because of the same sex discussion. Lots of pearls of wisdom for everyday Christian life. It was great. I admire Rebecca. All the best to her, my sister

[@pappap1702]

Wow we need a PhD to tell us what is plainly stated in Scripture. Wonderful

[@steelhurricane4041]

They are wise in their own eyes.

[@user-71435]

Well, yeah, that's the state of the people's minds today. We even need PhDs to tell us what a man and a woman is, even though nothing could more obvious.

[@ChalkboardCreativeHomeschool]

@seanmcdowell What is your hope in platforming Side B Christians like Rebecca and Presto. N Sprinkle? How would you and Rebecca responded to 1 Corinthians 10:13? Can a person be regenerate by holding onto an identity that does not align with scripture?

[@leftwingersareweak]

I'm not sold on this idea of "unconditional love." God is our standard, and He places conditions on love. This is not wrong either. Deuteronomy 28:1

[@su....]

rebecca says the story of sodom teaches us that "all of us had better make sure we have repented and believed in jesus, because he is the only way to be safe from god's wrath against sin of all kinds". what does it mean to repent and believe in jesus to the degree that we can be completely assured we will be 100% safe from god's wrath?

[@branttrainstation]

Unfortunately no matter what the Bible the word of Yahweh say 2 Timothy 3:16 many don't won't stand on the inspiration preservation and Authority of the word Yahshua on ever word that come from the mouth of God Matthew 4:4 this Arguments won't work on Matthew Vines or Brandan Robertson and the whole Methodist Church an Pope Francis an the billions of people who believe that on the day of judgment God will let them into his kingdom that love is love and that Christians should not judge people on same sex unions or marriages, we should be like the Bereans who search the scripture for the truth we should be searching the scriptures for sin we have done so we can repent of them not searching scripture to justly our life choices so we can live in our sins

[@anikrossignol8809]

This was fantastic! A courageous sister in Christ! God bless you both ❤

[@joelandries210]

Scripture is clear same sex is sin, and since everyone is a sinner and must be freed from the bondage of sin, so like everybody homosexuals must me freed from rheir bondage. There are plenty of testemonies of safed homosexuals who where where freed from their bondage at there conversion. That's why everyone needs salvation in the first place we are all sinners and are in bondage of some sin, all sorts of sin.

[@angelanash7059]

Hi Karl, I have a question about the 80 years as a nation on page 38. What about Saul, David and Solomon's reign?

[@heartofalegend]

Sean, when are you going to finally straight up repudiate the apostate heretical positions held by Preston Sprinkle? I'm simply stunned that you continue to hold him up as some sort of reputable teacher on this subject. Have you not been paying attention to his writings for CRU? I just don't get it, brother. Call him out, please!

[@nataliarose2073]

I so so so so so so agree!!!

[@PC-vg8vn]

Sprinkle believes sexual relationships are only good in God's eyes if they are within a straight marriage. How is that heretical?

[@Peachesandsunshine]

Do y’all read the description of the video??? It’s a discussion of the scriptures some misuse for same sex.

[@BMC_self-invent]

No, no, and no. Just be an athiest if you want an LGBTQ wedding.

[@paulan7218]

Well, you can’t be a Christian and have an LGBTQ wedding. The Bible affirms that a marriage is between one man and one woman for life.

[@js72634]

There might be a few other options available to folks...? Just saying

[@BMC_self-invent]

@jessicahaines7263 Well, there is one other option. But I would try to steer people away from that. That one is a eternal consequences

[@shanemontgomery1358]

How can she say she has studied scripture and come away with a consistent sexual ethic? One man and one woman? What about Jacob? What about David? Ignores the reality of the lack of rights for women, they were marital property. How do you study the Bible and not see the inconsistency in the biblical sexual ethic.

[@PC-vg8vn]

I wonder if God tolerated a lot, when in reality He only ever wanted one man & one woman relationships? Jesus seemed to say that. It was only due to the hard-heartedness of men that God allowed Moses' certificates of divorce.

[@jeffpossberg1127]

Heck yeah! This interview bends over backwards to decry same-sex attractions. Listening to the attempts to claim biblical endorsement of slavery "didn't really mean that" but pushing simplistic interpretations on same-sex attractions is mind-boggling

[@matthewbooth5666]

This is just wrong as a recovering gay man even I know better. In the Bible we only see opposite sex couples , marriages etc . I WONDER WHY! Love is one thing and I believe is okay . But sex.....no

[@azabujuban-hito-dake]

I'm curious on how do you channeling your libido? Just masturbation only?

[@jamesgreen2060]

What part of abomination do you not understand?

[@meatdahmer3959]

The Atheist Experience

[@modernorpheus]

Whenever I ask people what's wrong with homosexuality, the answers I get always fall in one of four categories: logical fallacies, misinformation, religious prohibition, or personal disgust. None of them have been valid reasons for banning same-sex relationships.

[@David-lq4tq]

The Bible states it is an abomination to Yahuah. Yahuah wrote the Bible and created us, so it is very clear.

[@modernorpheus]

@@David-lq4tq Just like I predicted! Instead of answering what's wrong with homosexuality, you only give an arbitrary religious prohibition. Not only is that an illegitimate reason to prohibit same-sex relationships (we have religious freedom, after all), it also doesn't answer my question. WHY is it "an abomination to Yahuah"? WHO is harmed by it, and how? Millions of Americans have considered these questions, and realized there is no answer to these questions, because there's nothing wrong with it.

[@greenmedicinetm299]

So right away we are not talking Gods book but a woman of authority position on a book SHE wrote... Sad SMH. I am away from this abominated video and topic.

[@grandekristian]

You have been smoking too much of that medicine

[@greenmedicinetm299]

@@grandekristian I guess you are another person unaware that God created it and it is inside you and without it you would die? I mean this comment is kind of loose in intellect. You assume I smoke it? I assume you are a failed uneducated in intellect and spiritual awareness Just returning the favor. Feel free to disagree in your limited capacity. Demon

[@greenmedicinetm299]

@@grandekristian Kind of special that your name says intellect but you lack a significant part of it.... a brain... Kiddie

[@garyfish6889]

What?

[@greenmedicinetm299]

@@garyfish6889 Google is our friend. feel free to copy and paste the more than three letter words for understanding... SMH

[@chudeobuaya6868]

This was a fantastic episode. I have been blessed by it

[@timalexwar]

I have been obligated to deal with the argument against condemning the behavior but not the desire in this way: When we make a decision to follow Jesus, He does not ask us to give up anything - He asks us to give up EVERYTHING. I did a brief study of relevant scriptures just this morning, and He leaves nothing out. The point is, He requires our absolute love for Him to take pre-eminence. This includes everything and anything that takes first place in my heart other than HIM. To me, this extends not just to my homo-sexual actions, but the very genesis of those actions which are the homo-sexual or homo-emotional attractions. I see a dominance of thought in The Church which calls for celibate homosexuality - i.e. it's ok to have the feelings and not repent of those, as long as I do not act upon them. But Jesus says that it is the very desire for tings other than HIM which undermines our faith and our desire and ability to follow Him, so that specific underlying tolerance, or acceptance or allowance must also be forsaken. IOW, we cannot be celibate "gay Christians". We are either fully given over to HIM or we are not. It's tremendously difficult, and striving for the kingdom is agonizing at times, requiring the deepest death to self."... and few there be who find it." "So who can be saved?" (implying it must take someone super human). " With men it is impossible, but with God, ALL things are possible". This is how we do it, this is how we deal with SSA/homosexuality to its core - we cooperate with God The Holy Spirit. For some of us, this is what we must deal with as we agonizingly strive to enter the kingdom.

[@elimmusic1674]

Such a great video but looking at this as a heterosexual male I see the discussion at 52:00 rise to a higher level of excellence when Rebecca speaks of the call to take up our cross and her vilification of the sex-driven idolatry so prevalent in our culture even our churches as she states clearly the arrogance we have that rather than being unable to live without Christ, we think we cannot live without a sexual relationship, whether in or outside of marital boundaries. That's where she really hits at a stronghold that needs to be torn down. Thank you for this podcast! So challenging!today

[@marinusswanepoel1825]

24:20 - "roughly three categories". There you go. Point not refuted. This is a sematic that she has to impose from outside the Bible. My systematic is different. I think it is all fulfilled the way Jesus says.

[@sharbean]

Remarkably helpful and beautiful information

[@anthonywillis7634]

26:37 However then, one must say that a woman or man who are non productive in their heterosexual relationship for personal or medical reasons must be placed in the same category as gays and lesbians. So also should be a eunuch. The procreation argument is quite weak when considered.

[@steven_r33d]

Coming from someone who is gay and doesn't believe in the Bible... It's perfectly fine if you don't agree with same-sex marriage or gay relationships and let that belief inform your own choices. It's NOT okay to try to force that belief on everyone else, through legislating against gay marriage etc. Right now a large majority of Christians want to force their faith and values onto everyone, and that's not okay.

[@WORTHY333]

I really appreciate Rebecca’s study in the Bible & her own candid sharing that makes her credibility in answering these questions valid. I agree in her answers & makes me want to keep focusing on loving those struggling with same sex desires especially in the body of Christ. Christ’s love for us trumps all that we may feel is lost. I agree our culture idolizes too much on relationship with others. Paul’s letter to the Philippians may apply to what I’m thinking: “Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith- that I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and may share his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, that by any means possible I may attain the resurrection from the dead.” ‭‭Philippians‬ ‭3‬:‭8‬-‭11‬ ‭ESV‬‬

[@PaulVanZandt-o9x]

“Deep love on offer!” I love this phrase that Dr. McLaughlin used to describe the atmosphere that ought to prevail in the church. It's a shame the video didn't get to its deep-love-on-offer portion till it was almost over. Instead, we had the obligatory parrying of arguments for affirming same-sex relationships to make sure everyone's got their doctrine right. I'm tired of that. So tired. Dr. McLaughlin, would you tell us more about your church? How do you make people feel welcome? How do you inspire church members to reach out in love? I want to hear more about a church with deep love on offer.

[@joshuatoro8977]

I'm a married man that has not had sex with my wife that she can't have sex. we have chosen to stay married because we realize that is God's will, but I will say it's not easy

[@azabujuban-hito-dake]

Just curious: Do you masturbate?