As someone who plays this deck alot and consistently wins with it I disagree you're losing so much value by sitting on your commander and this deck plays what I call a race style protecting your commander can be a weakness but this isn't a high power deck anyways and when playing casual not everyone kills your commander alot
@GSIron4 ай бұрын
Just because your friends don’t target your commander and let you win doesn’t mean that everyone has the same experience. People in Jersey are a bit more cutthroat in a casual setting and when you experience that style of play it’ll make you think twice about casting your commander. Better to be safe than sorry in my humble opinion, I’ve won a bunch of games with this precon by playing slow and when I finally play my commander I end and win the game in one to three turns at the most.
@leelovitt18284 ай бұрын
@GSIron your commander is also your draw draw wins games my friends don't let me win anything but if I wasn't playing my commander they would attack me either way I would be doing nothing in return this deck is made to out pace
@GSIron4 ай бұрын
The deck can be played and win in multiple ways, I’m just saying if you played against my friends they would just kill your commander every time they could, if I played against your friends, I would play the way you are playing
@GSIron4 ай бұрын
I appreciate the discussion though Lee, I’ll pin this so people can see it and can test each play style with their friends to see how which one works best with their playgroups tendencies
@WolfKingAka4 ай бұрын
@@GSIron as a third party, i appreciate the multi sided aspect looked at by another person and considered of value to the situation.
@Rodrigohero215 ай бұрын
This kinds of videos are just what you need when you are trying to get into the game with a little bit of knowledge beforehand. I suscribed
@retalva4203 ай бұрын
Just got into mtg and blindly bought my first commander. Thank you for the diff breakdowns of precons!!
@GSIron3 ай бұрын
Thank you! Have fun 👍🏽
@hiddenleaf4145 ай бұрын
Ehh Bello being a 3 drop and then being able to drop a 4mv artifact/enchantment the next turn and swing right away because of haste means it’s pretty well curved. Plus Path of Discovery would have seen all the other artifact/enchantments enter as a creature because of Bello so you would have gotten even more value out of them. Waiting to get 4 4mv+ artifacts/enchantments out then casting Bello without any current card draw/advantage can lead to your opponents being setup by then.
@GSIron5 ай бұрын
There are no ways to protect bello in this deck so playing this way will risk him dying to removal and then paying more mana. I would rather play him and attack with multiple creature to draw multiple cards to get most of his ability versus playing him getting no attack off for a turn cycle and then maybe drawing a card next turn when I attack with a creature. When you upgrade the deck, I agree with your style
@R3night5 ай бұрын
When playing this deck for the first time, I had to recast Bello at least 3 times during the game. Even then, I manage to win. The pros of it is that he’s cheap and because of all the ramping, I could pay it’s cost with no problem on late game. Also, he being the target, takes the attention from other threats I had on my side of the board.
@gamersbyknight951527 күн бұрын
This strategy might work for the precon, straight out of box, but the only issue I see with it is that if you are only playing high level enchantments/artifacts until you have at least 4, you are in a way a sitting duck. I've been slowly upgrading it and I have found that if you add a couple pieces of protection and artifacts(primarily vehicles) that create tokens you can get going as quickly as turn 3 or 4. Ramp on turn 1-2, play Bello by turn 3, and turn 4 play a 4 mana enchant/creature to start getting card draw. There are a lot of great cards in the deck that support this strategy such as Esika's Chariot and Path of Discovery! I agree that you have to be wary of Bello getting targeted and I like the strategy you devised. Just wanted to share my strategy with the deck!
@GSIron26 күн бұрын
Yea, a lot of subscribers tell me they have no idea how or intention to upgrade the precons they buy, so I always create the guides from the perspective of playing the deck as it is, against other non upgraded precons
@gamersbyknight951526 күн бұрын
@GSIron Oh, I didn't realize this was intended as a strategy to use against other non upgraded precons. If that is the case, then this definitely works pretty well!
@TheWarden04Ай бұрын
Bello is so good in the early game 💀 play him early swing at people with indestructible creatures before they have blockers that are too big and draw into even more enchantments and artifacts or more ramp
@midmon4 ай бұрын
I play this deck against my friends and they don't know how to deal with the deck other than removing Bello (playgroup doesn't have enchantment/artifact removal) so I tend to get hyper aggressive with it
@GSIron4 ай бұрын
Sounds fun man
@midmon4 ай бұрын
@@GSIron It is, however they hate the deck, they call it the trash panda from hell 🤣
@wellwellwelp5 ай бұрын
How about spells like “back to nature” and “seeds of innocence” that destroy all enchantments or all enchantments + all artifacts? If you have had Bello out during your turn, then all your stuff is indestructible meaning that you can wipe off all opponents’ enchantments and artifacts for 2-3 mana
@GSIron5 ай бұрын
Wow yea dude that sounds amazing
@wellwellwelp5 ай бұрын
@@GSIron you do lose most of your mana rocks since their mana value is less than 4. But if other players got sol rings too it will probably hurt them more. The new “season of gathering” is probably the best option, even though it’s expensive since it has multiple non-destroying options
@unanon_user5 ай бұрын
well, one thing you could do is throw in a nice little enchantment creature called archetype of endurance. on your turn, it'll give them hexproof. that means no little surprises. you can basically take your turn anyway you want without fear of some board wipe coming in or something. beyond that, you definitely have to worry about that kind of stuff on everybody else's turn.
@mattbennett81233 ай бұрын
My play group says the 4/4 don’t enter the battlefield so half the cards don’t even synergy am I missing something? Or they just salty lol
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus82993 ай бұрын
They enter as creatures because I have seen Bramble Sovereign used in Bello decks copy the artifact/enchantment. The only weird thing I have heard about is timing with God Enchantments like Xenagos, etc...
@unanon_user5 ай бұрын
what do you suggest for protecting the commander? My theory is that commander will generate atomic levels of threat.
@GSIron5 ай бұрын
As an upgrade to the deck?
@enki15974 ай бұрын
@@unanon_user mithril coat
@unanon_user4 ай бұрын
@@enki1597 I usually include in something that can hate on indestructible creatures.
@adrienmaterne92435 ай бұрын
verry great video !
@scottrowe9374 ай бұрын
What is the name of this app being used in the video?