5 Kpop Groups That Are Labelled "A & FRIENDS"

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Disclaimer: This is just a report of multiple sources, not our own opinions.
Isn't it true that when you stan a Kpop group, it's super frustrating to see one specific member receiving much more promotion and investment than the rest? This fact has always been stirring up arguments among fans, and causing discontent among whole-group stans.
If you can relate, let's dive into our video today to find out which groups are currently being called out for such unfair treatment.
5 Kpop Groups That Are Labelled "A & FRIENDS"
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@BeBossTV
@BeBossTV 2 жыл бұрын
We're gonna have a video addressing everything wrong with IVE next week, because it looks like there are a little too many controversies surrounding this girl group that needed to be discussed. Let's stay tuned for it!
@hamsa2903
@hamsa2903 2 жыл бұрын
Why didnt u mention black pink ?
@ayush.kumar.13907
@ayush.kumar.13907 2 жыл бұрын
@@hamsa2903 i think because overtime members other than Jennie are also getting projects and solos, so its difficult to accuse them of favoritism, especially when they did not even have a comeback for a long time where this could be visible
@hamsa2903
@hamsa2903 2 жыл бұрын
@@ayush.kumar.13907 Yeah i get it but i heard there where something about jennie before
@GiselleOutsold
@GiselleOutsold 2 жыл бұрын
*giselle should leave aespa tbh other members bully her*
@notgargi003
@notgargi003 2 жыл бұрын
@@GiselleOutsold I'm not a MY but do you have any proof that the other members bully Giselle? Stop making baseless accusations.
@hbda1636
@hbda1636 2 жыл бұрын
I love Yujin and Wonyoung, you can't deny that Starship is being unfair towards the group members
@honzy.__.4730
@honzy.__.4730 2 жыл бұрын
yea, but the members are getting the hate like what the FCK? its not their fault holy sht
@hbda1636
@hbda1636 2 жыл бұрын
@@honzy.__.4730 I agree, also I'm not blaming the members. I'm mad at the company.
@honzy.__.4730
@honzy.__.4730 2 жыл бұрын
@@hbda1636 ikr the company is the problem and its their fault and the stylists fault
@sunnygirl7669
@sunnygirl7669 2 жыл бұрын
yes, but sometimes is it just me or does it feel like Wonyoung and friends? (No hate to Wonyoung! I literally love her)
@honzy.__.4730
@honzy.__.4730 2 жыл бұрын
@@sunnygirl7669 I think its all bcs of the outfits, starship should change their stylists
@martaszulca8588
@martaszulca8588 2 жыл бұрын
Chaeryeong was an AOTM before Ryujin... Also, I got into Itzy after Wannabe so my first impression is that Ryujin stood out the most. Chaeryeong got her spotlight too, Yuna, Lia... I don't think we should compare Yeji's situation to Karina's for example. Itzy's treatment might not be perfect, but it's not bad after all
@alyasyarifah2317
@alyasyarifah2317 2 жыл бұрын
For me ryujin too
@its_k_goddamnit
@its_k_goddamnit 2 жыл бұрын
I got into Itzy because Ryujin drew me into the Wannabe choreo, so I'm with you there. I don't think Itzy has reached '--and friends' level.
@martaszulca8588
@martaszulca8588 2 жыл бұрын
@Ellaf Fadl I agree with you! Btw I just pointed out that Chaer has her AOTM because the creator of the video said something along the lines that Yeji got her one first, then there was nothing for a long time, and then Ryujin had hers. Like they've completely missed out the fact that Chaeryeong does have her AOTM. Imo leaving Chaer's AOTM out doesn't help the unfair treatment by any means
@Poyshield21
@Poyshield21 2 жыл бұрын
Don't ask.. Lia is my bias
@-shinynovy
@-shinynovy 2 жыл бұрын
@Ellaf Fadl yeji is also the main dancer tho
@kevinscheeseballhair9720
@kevinscheeseballhair9720 2 жыл бұрын
For ITZY, it’s not really Yeji and friends because all members are really popular; Chaeryeong was the first to be on public TV before Yeji, Ryujin was on Mix Nine and also acted in the promo clips for BTS with Yuna, and all four of them were in Stray Kids (the reality show). And for (G)I-DLE, people shouldn’t really be saying Soyeon and friends because she is THE backbone for the group and does literally everything and has the most experience out of all members, so it’s quite fair
@Lea-jm4wg
@Lea-jm4wg 2 жыл бұрын
damn you fotgot about Lia lmao
@roguex9469
@roguex9469 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lea-jm4wg To be fair not a lot of exposure was given to Lia as JYP labeled her their "secret hidden weapon/card." And from the very beginning she got a lot of hate for her dancing which also isn't fair to her. She is working with 4 main dancers and all rounders while Lia's main training was vocals not dance. The fact that she makes the choreography look easy should be enough to make haters realize that she has so much potential and that the dances for Itzy are fast paced and hard to remain stable while singing and dancing yet Lia still keeps up.
@user-tq9vs6fc9u
@user-tq9vs6fc9u 2 жыл бұрын
Plus for g idle, Soyeon doesn’t even have the most lines in all the songs.
@ItzAbbyEditz
@ItzAbbyEditz 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-tq9vs6fc9u doesnt mean its not bad.
@musaxcoco2833
@musaxcoco2833 2 жыл бұрын
Damn wonyoungs solo debut is going really well. They literally created a girl group just to promote Wonyoung. if i was a member of ive i'd literally cry myself to sleep.
@lovelyrosedumalag9158
@lovelyrosedumalag9158 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously she cant debut on her own
@musaxcoco2833
@musaxcoco2833 2 жыл бұрын
@@lovelyrosedumalag9158 why lol she can be a solo artist
@lixscafe
@lixscafe Жыл бұрын
ikr
@MaKiKas
@MaKiKas 2 жыл бұрын
I like these Groups but its sad how the Company pushes only one member.They are all so talented.Ryujin is a very great dancer,Minnie has a beautiful voice and more
@bangpink2771
@bangpink2771 2 жыл бұрын
*ryujin
@ifyoudisagreewithmethenurs357
@ifyoudisagreewithmethenurs357 2 жыл бұрын
K pop suck I'm way better than them
@simpforhanakokun4133
@simpforhanakokun4133 2 жыл бұрын
@@ifyoudisagreewithmethenurs357 lmao confrats, you got the attention your trying so hard for 🙂✨✨
@MaKiKas
@MaKiKas 2 жыл бұрын
@@ifyoudisagreewithmethenurs357 than why do you watch Kpop Videos then?
@kpopscenario1406
@kpopscenario1406 2 жыл бұрын
Hiiii
@ohnoits
@ohnoits 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so confused on the ITZY part! Chaeryeong got AOTM too before Ryujin. Plus JYP doesn't decide that it's the studio. Their line distribution is really fair. And since Wannabe, Ryujin has clearly been the most popular member but the rest are still very famous and recognised. Chaeryeong was famous since she was 13 years old!! I really don't think anyone considers ITZY to be Yeji & Friends anymore.
@R3atootall
@R3atootall 2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@Poyshield21
@Poyshield21 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@hannah_rai178
@hannah_rai178 2 жыл бұрын
RIGHT!
@Danna-ek5hq
@Danna-ek5hq 2 жыл бұрын
It's still itzy because every member is talked about so Yeji and friends will exist after many years when yeji gets 2 full minutes in an itzy songs
@moonlightespt3818
@moonlightespt3818 2 жыл бұрын
It's because Chaeryeong/Yeji are the main dancers, they of course deserve an AOTM first but i wish they"ll give one to Yuna too
@Dossy77
@Dossy77 2 жыл бұрын
Well for itzy, Yeji and Ryujin are the official dance break centers because of their unbeatable facial expressions and the reason why she got so many lines is because she is the groups core performer means she is very stable and well rounded.. And JYPE didn't choose yeji to be in the Studio choom artist of the month but the studio choom itself and 3 of the 5 members of itzy where gotten a chance too.. As for the outfits idk that one.. Let's just hope Chae got dance break
@marjjopio5275
@marjjopio5275 2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@Agatha-oh3gm
@Agatha-oh3gm 2 жыл бұрын
Why do midzys always say that yeji is the most favored member. As a 10 yr old kpop fan, I can say that itzy has the most equal line distribution and gets equal exposure.
@Dossy77
@Dossy77 2 жыл бұрын
@@Agatha-oh3gm yup.. Videos like this just leads to hating an idol.. She is recognizable by a lot its because of her talent.. Let's just ignore them, as if our idols salary will be lessen if they said those things😊
@hellno639
@hellno639 2 жыл бұрын
yuna has better expressions and is a better performer also chaer is sm better dancer
@Agatha-oh3gm
@Agatha-oh3gm 2 жыл бұрын
@@hellno639 when it comes to facial exp, ryujin is the best in itzy, while yeji has the most consistent stage presence. Yuna's facial expression tends to be awkward and uncomfortable at times. And dancing is subjective, so you can't say that one dancer is better than the other. In your opinion, chae may be a better dancer, but yeji and ryujin's dance styles suit itzy's concept and choreo the best. Thus, they get more center time. However, i would also appreciate if jyp makes a cb for itzy that would best suit chae and give her a dance break
@marybah1062
@marybah1062 2 жыл бұрын
But Yeji was chosen artist of the month first cuz she deserves it. Then Ryunjin appeared third after Chaeryong cuz they deserve it too. I don't think we can call ITZY "Yeji and Friends"
@Agatha-oh3gm
@Agatha-oh3gm 2 жыл бұрын
Yaaazz. It's because yeji and chae are the main dancers they would obviously be picked first. Aotm was exclusively for main dancers only, they made an exception for ryujin. Now tell me that members are not given equal promotion. I'm honestly tired of midzys victimizing the other members and making yeji look bad.
@felixtastic6786
@felixtastic6786 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that at first when aespa debuted they were kind of a Karina and friends group (in black mamba and next level eras I think). But since savage to Dreams come true, I feel like each member is getting to shine in their own individual ways too. For example Giselle gets more rapping lines, ningning and winter also get more high notes which allows the spotlight to be on them too
@ifyoudisagreewithmethenurs357
@ifyoudisagreewithmethenurs357 2 жыл бұрын
K pop sucks
@vaanshichauhan9868
@vaanshichauhan9868 2 жыл бұрын
@@kpopvibes9312 Idts. I never felt Karina and friends and I am following them from pre debut era. Yeah Karina was pushed bcs she was face of group before debut but from their debut era until now I never felt it as every member got time to shine in their own way
@schiffer2386
@schiffer2386 2 жыл бұрын
And even now with Karina and Winter being in a new group with other SM artists (which is a rotating unit kinda like NCT so it's probably gonna have Giselle and NingNing) Winter and NingNing we're the ones who performed the christmas song with other idols in the recent festival (idk what that event is called). Gigi and Ning2 were also both featured on songs with other SM artists in the new SMTOWN album so I think they're all promoted equally now.
@tnlkb6115
@tnlkb6115 2 жыл бұрын
@@vaanshichauhan9868 same i think sm was pretty strategic of how promoting the girls. They had to push Karina a little bit because for the group to be successful, they needed a strong center. And for that people needed to know who she was. Legit every group from the big3 had that one member in their debut. Ningning was in sm rookie so she was already a well know trainee and didn't that much predebut promotion. Giselle was label as the new top sm female rapper and the fastest trainee. Then Winter was the hidden members that had no promotion which made her stand out.
@lalalallalaahhhh5244
@lalalallalaahhhh5244 2 жыл бұрын
Ye im a fan but never really felt like its karina and friends... Obviously sm push karina for more opportunities but when shes with her members she doesnt overshadow them to the point where it look like backups
@sunnygirl7669
@sunnygirl7669 2 жыл бұрын
The IVE one is so disappointing because IVE is such a new group that barely debuted a month ago, it’s definitely seeming like a Wonyoung and Yujin and friends, but I think it’s also seeming to seem like Wonyoung and Friends.. I think there was one stage when all the members wore black dresses except Wonyoung who wore a white dress, making the other girls look like her backup dancers, I think on the same stage I just talked about, all the members were in position on the stage meanwhile the cameras were on Wonyoung coming in, I’m afraid IVE is gonna go down the same way 4minute did
@sophiamaeson8197
@sophiamaeson8197 2 жыл бұрын
How did 4minute go down?
@Jisoopikachu
@Jisoopikachu 2 жыл бұрын
@@sophiamaeson8197 “HyunA and friends”
@tammythrillz9952
@tammythrillz9952 2 жыл бұрын
IVE is definitely Wonyoung and friends
@sabrinaxty114
@sabrinaxty114 2 жыл бұрын
Yujin was also coming in from the other side of the stage during that performance. But here's the thing, as you mentioned, they have just debuted, of course the company will try to push the already famous ones to garner interest to the group speaking from business side of thing. Literally almost every group goes through this phase of having one member being pushed especially the visual or face of the group to get public's attention in one way or another. However, if this continues for more than a year, then yes, you may criticise and protest to the company. but as of now, the excessive highlighting of this issue is quite over the top.
@jooniestar6867
@jooniestar6867 2 жыл бұрын
@@sabrinaxty114 i agree with you. It makes sense from a business stand point but I feel like this will only have short term gain. As you said this needs to stop soon. In the long term it just doesn't work..........
@serpenthroned
@serpenthroned 2 жыл бұрын
no, aespa is not Karina and friends. The four girls are getting well marketed, Karina is the leader and center so it's natural she was pushed first, but now it's very balanced. I've never heard people call them like that before.
@narunyh
@narunyh 2 жыл бұрын
mia's hair is not a problem, back then e:u said that wanted to darker her hair and mia answered that she never wants to do it and wants to stay blonde
@ickodelight5551
@ickodelight5551 2 жыл бұрын
The "Soyeon and friends" is different from the other groups. It's Soyeon who does everything, and no, SHE IS NOT SELFISH. She is smart. Everyone is saying "cube is trash", which is true. That's why she is trying her best to be recognised, and to showcase her producing skills & talent, so whenever cube makes mistake with her, every company will be fighting to get her. Which is very smart from her. Sm is literally like the uncle for Soyeon. G-idle wouldn't have even debuted without her, because Cube didn't make a debut song for them, and do you know who wrote the song for G-idle? - Soyeon did EVERYTHING. She even produced a whole mini-album for G-idle ( Senorita ), she choreographed, wrote, produced almost every single song from G-idle. G-idle is nothing without Soyeon ( btw this is not hate ). G-Idle has one of the best ( if not THE best ) discrography from 4th gen, and it's all thanks to HER. Imagine G-idle without Soyeon. I love all G-idle members, but without her they are nothing, I don't even think they would've even debuted without her, because I expect NOTHING from cube entertainment. Imagine producing a whole girl group in your twenties. And remember how Soojin was kicked from Cube? Even tho she was innocent? Now imagine cube kicking Soyeon. Every company ( mainly SM ) will fight for her. Who doesn't want a girl in her twenties, that can write, produce, choreograph AND RAP. So this is very understandable that she is giving herself the most lines. And the people who hate her and call her selfish, should stop doing it.
@Kae_la
@Kae_la 2 жыл бұрын
And the members agree on choreography, and line distribution. The only thing unfair about their group are the lines. Something they all decide upon. Every member is successful right now (aside from soojin).
@Gemstones1000
@Gemstones1000 2 жыл бұрын
You spoke all facts with no fables.👏👏👏
@Bsgsgsgsgshj
@Bsgsgsgsgshj 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, Big3 would def fight for her.
@jellyismyfav.artist
@jellyismyfav.artist 2 жыл бұрын
You said everything what we needed to say and even Pnation is ready steal her. The power Soyeon holds.
@hajarraduan9205
@hajarraduan9205 2 жыл бұрын
UP
@xandritha7544
@xandritha7544 2 жыл бұрын
Aespa Winter is having a huge boost of popularity, NingNing was always famous and Giselle is getting recognised as great 4th gen female rapper so I really don't think you can label them Karina and friends...never even heard ANYONE referring to them like that lol Maybe in the very begging, debut, SM pushed Karina more as the center and visual but now it's pretty even
@ifyoudisagreewithmethenurs357
@ifyoudisagreewithmethenurs357 2 жыл бұрын
K pop suck I'm way better than them
@AIANevergonnagiveyouup
@AIANevergonnagiveyouup 2 жыл бұрын
YA'LL I WARN YOU DON'T FIGHT THIS TROLL OVER HERE IT WILL JUST MAKE YOU LOOK STUPID AND WILL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THIS THINGS LEVEL THEY WILL NEVER CHANGE SO ITS USELESS AND ALSO THIS IS USED FOR CLOUT!!!
@everythingsfinett3903
@everythingsfinett3903 2 жыл бұрын
Now Giselle lost a lot of fans because of her mouthing/saying the N-word while leaning into the camera, even though she went to international school and is fluent in English. I don’t think she deserves recognition.
@johnnyquest1454
@johnnyquest1454 2 жыл бұрын
if u can read korean like i do or actively translate korean words, no doubt you will see Karina popping here and there, is not even a joke anymore, is that bad, sure Winter is rising but have a read
@strawberryruiyang1792
@strawberryruiyang1792 2 жыл бұрын
@@everythingsfinett3903 she studied in Japan in an international school just becoz someone know fluent English doesn't mean they know n word if she knows the word then it's upto Black people who forgave her or not so stop commenting each and every thing related to get if u don't support her then it's fine
@miaprint4529
@miaprint4529 2 жыл бұрын
sihyeon is the lead vocalist firstly and mia is the main so of course she’s going to get the most lines and your comment about the hair was beyond unnecessary and such a reach 😭 just leave her alone
@sotabaka
@sotabaka 2 жыл бұрын
& main dancer so of course she gets solo dance
@morenr7983
@morenr7983 2 жыл бұрын
Still a company should create a group so that at least more than ONE member can showcase their talents. Like come on ,Mia is great and im happy for her also its not her fault. But why debut a group with one member that has the most outstanding talents ? Her having some important titles such Main vocal does not justify that she gets basically ALL the most outstanding lines. Like I get it she is has major roles but the Like distribution ......
@euneiros
@euneiros 2 жыл бұрын
As an itzy stan and Yuna biased (😭💔) I can definitely say that in the beginning jyp promoted yeji a lot!! However Jyp has definitely started giving the girls a lot of solo projects and gives them equal promotions!! Im honestly really content with how he's handling them!! He gives them projects that carter to every girls skills and strong points ( Lia got to sing an OST! Yuna MC and center time!!, Yeji, Chaer and Ryu in dance performances!!) I think the discrimination comes from the uneven popularity amongst the girls. Yeji and ryujin undoubtedly are the most popular members rn by a lot and all their projects get a lot of hype while the rest of the girls aren't that hyped so a lot of their projects go a bit unnoticed by the general public!!
@angelaz2576
@angelaz2576 2 жыл бұрын
aaaah I'm also super Yuna biased!!! I agree with everything you said :) and sadly with popularity comes hate. Hope that Yeji wouldn't care too much about the haters :/
@justmyedits6596
@justmyedits6596 2 жыл бұрын
I think I've seen articles about Yuna a lot lately on her visuals. And she's been given a lot of MC roles. So JYP now knows how to manage Itzy ! But I would say that Lia and Chae are not as popular as the other members and Lia's treatment's a bit worser than the others. She had no pre-debut exposure: Stray Kids survival: Yeji, Ryujin, Yuna, Chae Acting: Ryujin (BTS' high light reel. Kingdom(movie)). Yuna (BTS' high light reel) Shows: Yeji - The fan Ryujin - Mixnine (Won 1st place. YG even offered her a trainee contract) Chae - Kpop stars with her sister. SIXTEEN All we had of pre-debut Lia was a YT video of her singing and a photo of her selfie with her foot.
@multi_fan1492
@multi_fan1492 2 жыл бұрын
For the Soyeon part.. I'm not even mad about how she has more stuff to do or promotions than the members or what delulu haters claim. SHE is the backbone, leader, main rapper and producer of the group. Literally produced THE best songs and my personal favorites like Lion, Oh my god, and Hwaa. I also heard that the members choose the lines they sing or parts they get? But I'm not entirely sure about that Edit: ok so now I noticed my weird wordings here but I'd like to clarify here that I do not agree on the group being called as "Soyeon and friends" each member has their own charms and talents that contributes to the group's success that we do see because ALL of them have exposure and promotions done as a group or as individuals. So none of them are getting ignored. Oh and Soyeon isn't the only one who produces their group's songs too, Other members also produces their songs and partake in the group's songs too(I know that if not all then some members produce their own songs and partake in the group's) I just said that because the songs I stated above are my personal favorites Another edit: Since people are saying I'm fine with the members getting 'ignored' I'm gonna say more. In my comment I said that I'm not mad about her getting the promotions she deserves. I was only saying that those promotion she has are well deserved but Cube decided to be unfair to every member. I only said I'm not mad that she has those solo promotions. Cube is a big but shitty company that doesnt know how to manage their idols well so that their charms can be shown to the public and that they can build their fanbase, reputation and popularity for the obvious bias and discrimination towards other idols. In my comment i stated that I wasn't mad about her getting so many promotions because each of those she deserves. I'm not saying that the other members should be "ignored" they all should have the promotions, activities and the attention they all deserve from their company. (So like Pnation when will (G)-idleget rescued ?)
@njr4293
@njr4293 2 жыл бұрын
And she also has started earlier in the idol industry so she was already known (like in Produce 101 and Unpretty rapstar)
@ELmayberry
@ELmayberry 2 жыл бұрын
Captain Soyeon
@AgniaAlma
@AgniaAlma 2 жыл бұрын
Then why not go solo? It suits her more
@HaveYourWay
@HaveYourWay 2 жыл бұрын
@@AgniaAlma the group will be over if she goes solo and that’s fact
@AgniaAlma
@AgniaAlma 2 жыл бұрын
@ーAsh The Explorer❃⸙ that's kinda sad:") But I'm talking about going solo to begin with. No idle at all.
@sorabutterfly_
@sorabutterfly_ 2 жыл бұрын
I personally love Yeji, she is my bias but seriously... all the members should be treated equally
@sohumkhaladkar136
@sohumkhaladkar136 2 жыл бұрын
I think they’re treated fairly
@StxrmWastaken
@StxrmWastaken 2 жыл бұрын
as a Yeji, Lia, Chaery, Ryujin and Yuna bias, I agree (ik its called OT5 but I wanted to be dramatic)
@ifyoudisagreewithmethenurs357
@ifyoudisagreewithmethenurs357 2 жыл бұрын
K pop suck I'm way better than them
@Alex-xn1lq
@Alex-xn1lq 2 жыл бұрын
Ur so quirky ✋🤭.
@sophie.audrey
@sophie.audrey 2 жыл бұрын
@@ifyoudisagreewithmethenurs357 uhhhhhhh
@laragritzki
@laragritzki 2 жыл бұрын
since when is sihyeon a main vocalist? do your research before spreading misinformation. mia is just gonna get more hate...she's the main vocalist and deserves all her lines. also the whole hair color thing is a joke cause she just likes brighter hair on herself more. don't open your mouth if you don't know a little bit about everglow and her
@shooky_bxnny3773
@shooky_bxnny3773 2 жыл бұрын
Fr
@BeastChaeng
@BeastChaeng 2 жыл бұрын
I'm shocked that this chanel did not mention "Hyuna feat. 4Minute", because that one was indeed the biggest case of "Nicole and the Pussycat Dolls" in Kpop. Most people only knew of Hyuna, maybe another one or two members but that was it.Most did not even remember the leader's name. Heck, I only ever only remembered Jiyoon because she was my bias(back then she was the only female idol I knew that had a deeper voice) and Gayoon because of her voice as well that her name ended in "yoon" so due to Jiyoon I remembered Gayoon as well.
@sieekakhan6761
@sieekakhan6761 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think aespa falls into this category anymore. Karina was the one who was promoted a lot when they debuted but now each members are given a chance to collab and perform
@hahalabyu2429
@hahalabyu2429 2 жыл бұрын
YES
@shifafauziahsuparmanixb3248
@shifafauziahsuparmanixb3248 2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@Game-hl2uv
@Game-hl2uv 2 жыл бұрын
She get the best outfit in mama. All member get dark Black grey base, but she got white top and red skirt. She also got net stocking 😂
@loverose9476
@loverose9476 2 жыл бұрын
Winter is now the most popular It is a slap to SM
@vittoriole2058
@vittoriole2058 2 жыл бұрын
@@loverose9476 it’s actually both
@aex2309
@aex2309 2 жыл бұрын
People also should realize that Karina is a Leader that is also the Center of the Group. Magazine Photoshoots is also decided by the client such as Creative Director so it isnt Karina's fault. Lets not blow this out of proportion
@thealou6164
@thealou6164 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheKpopland20 but she is the center.
@J.Dodo_5
@J.Dodo_5 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheKpopland20 she is not only leader but centre of the group.. Rm is only leader so🤷🏻‍♀️
@serpenthroned
@serpenthroned 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheKpopland20 she's not the center because she is the leader, she is the leader AND the center, she has both roles, just like taeyong from nct.
@TheKpopland20
@TheKpopland20 2 жыл бұрын
@@serpenthroned I know but if you see the first person he/she was saying that 'leader is the centre of the group'
@TheKpopland20
@TheKpopland20 2 жыл бұрын
@@J.Dodo_5 I know but if you see the first person he/she was saying that 'leader is the centre of the group'
@seulgisupremacy1019
@seulgisupremacy1019 2 жыл бұрын
this video is stupid for so many reasons but to highlight some parts specifically from the “mia & friends” section 1. mia is the main vocalist not sihyeon 2. mia is not the only member who’s continuously had bright hair, onda has also been bleaching hers since debut
@zexadviento7899
@zexadviento7899 2 жыл бұрын
in ITZY's case, I don't think it would be “Yeji and Friends" because they got to shine individually before debut. Chaer being on sixteen and ryujin on mixnine, etc. In the case of their outfits, take not shy for example where they all got “experimental" outfits. The line distributions are quite fair, if you think of it as the bsides give other members more lines. Chaer and Ryu gets to be AOTM as well, and chaer would occasionally get dance breaks on special stages like year end shows and award shows.
@Exhuberant
@Exhuberant 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think aespa is "Karina and friends". Admitting that Karina pushed more in their debut, but now everyone having their solo promotions and getting good amount of lines & screen time! Giselle and NingNing's collab songs released yesterday, and Winter solo stage on MAMA 2020 like many more solo promos ! We can't complain more about that, because Karina is the center, FOTG, Main dancer and possibly visual of the group
@Emily_fanai
@Emily_fanai 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought...I agree about the other groups but I think aespa members all shine
@blackpink.redvelvet6982
@blackpink.redvelvet6982 2 жыл бұрын
Yeahh this is the first time i heard the karina and friends, when sm is also giving solo promotions to gigi, ning and win unlike the situations of Ive they only promote wonyoung
@lololuck6679
@lololuck6679 2 жыл бұрын
Don't lie to yourself you known it's true
@anneofgreengables9289
@anneofgreengables9289 2 жыл бұрын
@@lololuck6679 Nah, if you're a fan and had followed their journey you know what's true
@blzy404
@blzy404 2 жыл бұрын
As they say, a balanced group
@earthshuman3864
@earthshuman3864 2 жыл бұрын
Audience are toxic too Companies are just using most famous one to make group more famous
@vannttaes1486
@vannttaes1486 2 жыл бұрын
don't ever bring up everglow again if you can't even do basic research. First of all, Mia is the main vocal of the group and it's totally normal that she have the most lines. It's like that in every group because the position of the main vocal has some meaning if none of you have figured it out yet. leave everglow alone, especially mia because she has already suffered a lot from people who hate her for everything she does.
@soojinredlipstick3911
@soojinredlipstick3911 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but Soyeon's shine is fair. She literally was in Produce 1O1 and Unpretty Rapstar. Her member always praising her and her talent. I'm a Neverland almost 4 year and this is just a problem of non-fans. And she's not just an idol like Yeji, Yujin, Woyoung and Karina. She's the producer, choreographer, songwriter etc. This is not the same story y'all.
@xianxiannn
@xianxiannn 2 жыл бұрын
So true Soyeon's part actually offended me
@miamorria
@miamorria 2 жыл бұрын
Disagree with the ITZY and AESPA one, each member are getting the recognition they deserve.
@foxymakeup1
@foxymakeup1 2 жыл бұрын
Mia is in fact the main vocal of everglow. Even if Sihyeon gets the highest notes and is the lead vocal, Mia is still the main vocalist.
@lucyvlogandart5166
@lucyvlogandart5166 2 жыл бұрын
But the other members deserve more lines,they are talented too
@jssed
@jssed 2 жыл бұрын
Mia is the ace of the group. She can sing, rap and dance and has amazing stage presence, also her facial expressions are on point. She's amazing at everything
@lucyvlogandart5166
@lucyvlogandart5166 2 жыл бұрын
@@jssed but the other members deserve attention too
@ifyoudisagreewithmethenurs357
@ifyoudisagreewithmethenurs357 2 жыл бұрын
K pop suck I'm better than them
@everythingsfinett3903
@everythingsfinett3903 2 жыл бұрын
Mia is a main vocalist, main dancer, rapper and the face of the group. I'm not surprised she’s being pushed given how talented she is. No hate to other girls but only Mia, Onda and Aisha have a strong stage presence. I think those three should get the most center time, EU should have a dance break sometimes and Mias less lines, but still usually the most, given her position. Tbh I think EU shouldn’t be the main dancer together with Mia since Mia is a much better dancer according to dancers analysis (It’s on KZbin) but since the company made her one she should be treated accordingly
@laurac2061
@laurac2061 2 жыл бұрын
A Little things that I wanna say 1. Chaeryeong appear first than Ryujin on AOTM 2. Mia is the main vocalist of Everglow
@ae-kimey9094
@ae-kimey9094 2 жыл бұрын
Aespa? I don't think so? As a my, I don't see there's favoritism in aespa because all 4 members shine differently. Ningning got a lot more lines in their song, and that's understandable because she's the main vocal. She's also cute, pretty and sexy at the same time🥰 Winter got the second member who got a lot of lines, she's main vocal material and very pretty VISUAL. She also ranked 1st in GGBR twice. She got her 1st solo performance in mama 2020. Karina is the center, fotg, visual leader, so, understandably, she got a lot more screentime. She's also the leader so she's the one who should talk first. Her unique visuals always shook knetz and makes her popular. Giselle is one of the great 4th gen rappers, she has a great flow and style. Producers also let her write her parts. She's the English speaker in the group that's why she got a lot more screentime when they are overseas. SM gives the aespa members the same attention. Their outfits in mv and performances are always balanced, the 4 of them shine in their costumes. SM also let the 4 of them to collab with their seniors.
@miryobae1902
@miryobae1902 2 жыл бұрын
Mia said she doesn’t like dark hair on her, and onda is usually the one with bright colored hair and she is both main vocal and dancer
@miafuls
@miafuls 2 жыл бұрын
exactly … the misinformation in this video is insane. it’s defamation against mia
@morenr7983
@morenr7983 2 жыл бұрын
Still in my opinion why put a person With more outstanding talents in a group next to people that aren't that stable? There is no point of group if only one member gets all the most outstanding lines and screen time (no hate to Mia).more to the company and the producers. If other members vocals don't fit the lines ,then im sorry either debut solo artists , or make songs FOR the group so that each member can showcase their talents......
@miryobae1902
@miryobae1902 2 жыл бұрын
@@morenr7983 as black eyed pilsung once said, line distribution is not done with emotions involved, the only reason that this Mia and friends thing happens is because the other members don’t get a chance at their fortè imagine if eu got to participate in the composition of the songs more, sihyeon and yiren got photoshoots, onda got to go on variety shows, Mia and eu getting to choreograph dances and show them to us and aisha got to tryout writing and made content of her rapping. Unfortunately Mia skills and strength is the most showcased because truthfully all Everglow does is release music and do 3 KZbin variety videos and that’s an era for you, no photoshoots, no mc gigs no chance in Korea.... literally just this morning yiren was being dragged by knetz for respecting her culture, they aren’t even a kpop group at this point, the only thing keeping them afloat in kr is their company’s affiliation with mnet since a lot of their idols went on their survival shows
@noorob8049
@noorob8049 2 жыл бұрын
Mia is the official main vocalist in EVERGLOW not Sihyeon
@citizencr4o
@citizencr4o 2 жыл бұрын
If anyone complains about Soyeon in idle, they are clueless. Soyeon does everything for that group, including producing their biggest hits and making sure the lyrics are changed in order to help other members, especially the foreign ones. Soyeon deserves all the limelight.
@aex2309
@aex2309 2 жыл бұрын
Winter is topping the Brand Reputation. I dont think its Karina and friends. NingNing also collaborated with SM Rookie girls and singing Im Your Girl.
@Eat_and_Live17
@Eat_and_Live17 2 жыл бұрын
Before Winter...Karina top brand reputation twice...anyway that's not the problem here....they all shine in their own way
@strawberryruiyang1792
@strawberryruiyang1792 2 жыл бұрын
Winter only topped 1 time Karina topped more than twice she and yeji r the only one that topped
@hmmmmk8590
@hmmmmk8590 2 жыл бұрын
Jennie is always in no 1 and BR is not reliable actually. Anyway Winter is more biased than Karina by looking at her fancam views.
@strawberryruiyang1792
@strawberryruiyang1792 2 жыл бұрын
@@hmmmmk8590 BP doesn't have any comeback that's why
@hmmmmk8590
@hmmmmk8590 2 жыл бұрын
@@strawberryruiyang1792 still Jennie is always sitting comfortably in top 1
@PiaChanx
@PiaChanx 2 жыл бұрын
Actually Yuqi got an animated video for gigants and I'm pretty sure she filmed the video for Bonnie and Clyde while promoting in China. So she got 2 videos. And it did sound like it was all a bit rushed, so she would have something to promote while in China. Minnie was in a Netflix show and did a lot of promoting in Thailand. Miyeon have been in multiple web series, done colabs, is a MC and has her own talk show. She if also now officialy Ahri forever after promoting Ahris 10th birthday for LOL. The only member in Gidle that haven't had their own time to shine is Shuhua. Cube isn't pushing any one member more than the other, they are all pushing and promoting themselves Cube just sits back and collects the profits.
@Kae_la
@Kae_la 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@xianxiannn
@xianxiannn 2 жыл бұрын
And Soojin is just rotting in the corner. I'm so mad at cube for ruining an amazing group like G-idle
@PiaChanx
@PiaChanx 2 жыл бұрын
@@xianxiannn Indeed, I literally just had a dream about Soojin rejoining, only to wake up to disappointment 😞
@xianxiannn
@xianxiannn 2 жыл бұрын
@@PiaChanx cube is not gonna get away with this I'm telling you
@lingling1781
@lingling1781 2 жыл бұрын
Shuahua is promoted well in Taiwan actually
@aexorator
@aexorator 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the aespa thing. Karina is the leader of the group, the face and center of the group. It is inevitable that it should be in the foreground. But there is no exaggeration in this. As the SMtown concert approached, SM recruited Karina and Winter into the temporary group GOT, and gave Ning and Giselle collaborations with other SM artists. In addition, Karina is a leader who tries to highlight her group members at every opportunity. You can tell that he is not a stagnant aespa member, since all members are in the top ten in the monthly reputation rankings.
@youngwinter04
@youngwinter04 Жыл бұрын
In Everglow Sihyeon isn't Main Vocalist she is lead vocalist, Mia is Main Vocalist and Main Dancer at the same time, she deserves the spotlight she gets
@illyuzion
@illyuzion Жыл бұрын
sihyeon is better in singing than mia tbh, even tho mia is main vocal many lines can be easily given to sihyeon
@windyyejiinactive4137
@windyyejiinactive4137 2 жыл бұрын
I actually disagree in aespa because all members have a solo promotions so no "Karina and friends" but in Yujin and Wonyoung, I kinda agree with that. and about in Yeji, Soyeon and Mia, it's not their fault if they have a most lines in their songs because i think the reason why the three always have to most line because in their songs, the producer thinks that their voice are most suitable than the other members.
@naledimosikara7861
@naledimosikara7861 2 жыл бұрын
With soyeon, Mia and yeji..I agree it's because their voices suit the song but if that's the only reason why they get pushed more, then the producers need to make songs that are also suitable for the other members as well.... PERIOD 💯
@hescutethough2419
@hescutethough2419 2 жыл бұрын
Yejis voice is also very stabile, shes Not called jyps secret weapon for nothing❤️its Not her fault she gets more lines, but i agree i wish it was more for all of them
@rehuelgrace
@rehuelgrace 2 жыл бұрын
i totally agree with u
@windyyejiinactive4137
@windyyejiinactive4137 2 жыл бұрын
@@naledimosikara7861 your right
@windyyejiinactive4137
@windyyejiinactive4137 2 жыл бұрын
@@hescutethough2419 yeah!!
@bornpink3069
@bornpink3069 2 жыл бұрын
6:26 chaeryeong was the 2nd member to appear on aotm, 4 months ago 8:52 sihyeon is a lead vocalist, Mia is the main.
@christmastime28
@christmastime28 2 жыл бұрын
Mia is the main vocal of Everglow, not Sihyeon. And also Chaeryeong got AOTM before Ryujin
@got7bestboys318
@got7bestboys318 2 жыл бұрын
tbh I disagree with itzy, yeji was not the only one who was revealed before debut for an example ryujin was a famous face among people too, appearing on bts's love yourself and becoming 1st place on mixnine. Yeji is not always standing in the middle unless its her part to sing in the song and we should all know that yeji is one of the vocalist in itzy so she obviously gets a higher chance of singing the chorus or the pre-chorus and those are mostly the longest part of the song. And for the kitten moves, y'all must be really dumb to think that they added it to give her more spotlight, its literally because they were matching it with the lyrics of the song, y'all act like she's was carrying a freaking tiger in their mv. And don't get me started on the aotm, y'all really gotta do your research, yeji and chaeryeong are the main dancers of itzy and not only that jyp doesn't pick who gets to go or not, studio choom does. And all the members clothes were amazing so idk what y'all are saying!!! P.s: idk why I wrote this whole paragraph but like I hope you see my point here!!!
@angelaz2576
@angelaz2576 2 жыл бұрын
yep, and TBH Loco was obviously Yeji's era, I mean she does shine in other eras but it's okay for her to rule the Loco era. Wannabe was definitely Ryujin's era and she's also super popular. ITZY isn't really Yeji and friends, although you may argue that she did get promoted a tad bit more than the other members. Anyways STAN ITZY
@got7bestboys318
@got7bestboys318 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelaz2576 Yes, they're really judging and calling them "yeji & friends" because she slayed LOCO era, but anyways can you tell me how she got promoted more? because I always thought they were promoted equally
@callyyyyyy4896
@callyyyyyy4896 2 жыл бұрын
louder!!! the fact they most of them had exposures even before debut (Yuna and Ryu in a BTS MV, Ryu in mixnine, Chae in sixteen plus her sis was in IZONE, and Yeji was in the fan) if there was one member I can say that is rlly underrated, it is Lia 🥺
@amirhassan7887
@amirhassan7887 2 жыл бұрын
chaeryeong was also pretty popular before debuting idk what they're talking about. they always somehow find a way to hate on yeji. i mean I wouldn't blame them.. yeji is a powerhouse and they're afraid of her potential
@got7bestboys318
@got7bestboys318 2 жыл бұрын
@@amirhassan7887 fr tho
@proudblink27
@proudblink27 2 жыл бұрын
If the company will only focus on 1 single member and not think about the other members. Surely, the member getting the best treatment will be critised and their image will also be ruined....
@lucyvlogandart5166
@lucyvlogandart5166 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@jennuary.
@jennuary. 2 жыл бұрын
SIHYEON isn't the main vocalist, Mia is the main vocalist & main dancer, she's also a rapper for the group, it makes sense she gets all the lines and most center time, she's the main dancer ofc she has to be in the front for choreography, and shes also a main vocalist she isn't going to sing her lines at the back other than that Mia can also rap she's an ACE. You can check ADIOS demo and you can clearly tell why she gets most of the lines, it's because she fits them.
@sally-dg3ml
@sally-dg3ml 2 жыл бұрын
E.u is a main dancer along with Mia :)
@aleysacampbell8709
@aleysacampbell8709 2 жыл бұрын
then she should have been a soloist gosh I hate this comment its a group whats the point if yr going to push one member nth mia fans can say to justify the injustice to the other girls in pirate the bias is clear more than ever before they gave her a rap and it was too high pitched eu and aisha are literally the rappers
@suaAaAaA
@suaAaAaA 2 жыл бұрын
she's not a rapper
@aleysacampbell8709
@aleysacampbell8709 2 жыл бұрын
not really I don't see why she gets so much lines I don't get the hype about her shes not the only ace in the group in pirate ondas voice suited the song wayyyyyyy better and shes definitely not a rapper
@flowerboy5699
@flowerboy5699 2 жыл бұрын
@@suaAaAaA she is
@user-cp3ls4ud5o
@user-cp3ls4ud5o 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry but in all of these girls Mia get the most hate for this and I hate it.Ppl still doesn't want to forgets Dundun era and still call everglow Mia and friends.Stop with this Mia the main vocal she deserve all of this lines.I know that No lie is the worst distributions ever but Mia doesn't deserve this hate and this isnt a reason to not stan everglow.
@oliviaaurora3954
@oliviaaurora3954 2 жыл бұрын
I just listened to couple of *(G)i-dle* songs and [just songs] soyeon stand out the most in many ways, her unique beauty, charisma, her voice and when I heard she was a part in writing those beautiful lyrics made me attracted to her more, ofc other members deserve equal promotion and treatment but I can " *understand* " why the company push Soyeon most unlike the other groups I saw in the video.
@sharanradd
@sharanradd 2 жыл бұрын
Its (G)I-dle my friend. Or you can just write Gidle. Just correcting :>
@oliviaaurora3954
@oliviaaurora3954 2 жыл бұрын
@@sharanradd thanks lol🌱
@taeyeonisnotthatdesperate1070
@taeyeonisnotthatdesperate1070 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the "Karina and Friends"For me I think each member shine (like heck every member is a package) and I don't see any unfair treatment so far. SM is giving each member different exposure, like yesterday Giselle get to collab with NCT and write her own lyrics plus ningning will have a collab too. Plus for the GOT there is a rumor that the members are not permanent, so chances are winrina are not the only one who get to collab with the big names:) Also, winter was the first member to perform at MAMA(solo)
@ifyoudisagreewithmethenurs357
@ifyoudisagreewithmethenurs357 2 жыл бұрын
K pop sucks full of racists, abusive people
@ani5593
@ani5593 2 жыл бұрын
So in YOUR own words , when Lisa gets experimental clothes it's "Aww poor lsa 🥺" but when it's Yeji it's favouritism ? 🤨
@alien8855
@alien8855 2 жыл бұрын
It's probably cuz a lot of kpop fans think Lisa gets the worst looking experimental clothes compared to the other members and their outfits so they feel sorry for her or something like that.
@junajjj1486
@junajjj1486 2 жыл бұрын
the difference is lisa got the worst and yeji got the best
@BeastChaeng
@BeastChaeng 2 жыл бұрын
ITZY: "Yeji and friends"...are you kidding me? Imo the attentiom on ITZY usually seems to be spread between the best dancers of the group(Yeji, Ryujin and Chaeryeong), while Yuna as the visual will get her own recognition(she has been MCing many things too) and Lia recently got her first OST(as Lia is more of a vocal-focused person). They all shine in their own way and if you follow the shows they go on(or even JYP's "reality shows" of the groups) you would see how each member has their spotlight. Who the heck thinks it is "Yeji and friends"? ¯\_ಠ_ಠ_/¯ (G)I-DLE: ...NOPE.Nuhu, no way someonenis trying to spread this narrative. Soyeon gets indeed a bit more of fame but that's because she *MAKES* IDLE's songs, she is the literal reason why they debuted at the time frame they did and why they were able to consistently make comebacks after comebacks(until Soojin's scandal). She takes into consideration the opinions and thoughts of the girls, they all worked together in every part of their comebacks, that's a legit team effort.But of course a team always needs a leader, someone able to focus a team's skill towards their work and be able to be a bridge between the team and the higher ups. Soyeon is that.If anything, although she is younger than some members, she is the one that cares for them, she always took into consideration Shuhua's unwillingness or fear of singing too much(probably because she feared mixing up the lyrics due to her-back then- lack of proficiency in Korean...or lack of confidence in her language skills).If Shuhua wanted to have more lines, she would, Soyeon ain't a dictator, she knows what's like to be scared and uncertain due to her past in survival shows. I hate haters...
@SYEJ92
@SYEJ92 2 жыл бұрын
Literally stop spreading misinformation. Mia is the main vocal, not Sihyeon.
@Emily_fanai
@Emily_fanai 2 жыл бұрын
I think Aespa is not "Karina and friends" They all shine in their own ways..Karina is the Fotg & center so ofc there will be moments when she get lots of screentime..That happens to all groups...But in aespa,all members get their own promotions & have their own time to shine ❤️
@tammythrillz9952
@tammythrillz9952 2 жыл бұрын
That's a big lie... All members are attractive yes but not promoted the same way Karina gets the spotlight more then Winter gets an occasional shine too but Ningning and Giselle get almost nothing (prolly because they're not Korean) I love Aespa so much but whenever i see their MV's and stuff like that i can't help but get the vibe of a Queen and her ladies in waiting
@vaanshichauhan9868
@vaanshichauhan9868 2 жыл бұрын
@@tammythrillz9952 No way. I never got that feeling. Every member gets to shine. Like Giselle debut teaser is most popular. Ningnong photoshoot pics are most praised. Winter song covers are most viewed and Karina CGI looks gets attention. Every member shines in their own way and I never saw people saying KARINA and friends. This channel is idk why sprouting nonsense.
@strawberryruiyang1792
@strawberryruiyang1792 2 жыл бұрын
@@tammythrillz9952 Evey member shines in their on way now it is fair the lines, screen time . Karina is the most popular. Her merch is the first to sell out. Winter is the most loved in the fandom she has more views and Koreans always praise her. Giselle is really popular in international countries ningning trended no.1 in America. All girls shined as their on
@SicaRun
@SicaRun 2 жыл бұрын
@@strawberryruiyang1792 but their promotions are highly different, Karina and Winter are both overly pushed when you compare with NN and Giselle, Winter legit has more lines in 2 out of 3 title tracks than NN which is the main vocal and Karina has more lines than Giselle in all songs, even in rap heavy Next Level, screentime wise both Karina and Winter has double NN and GS and let's not even get into center, solo promotions wise is huge gap and Sm is always shit with foreigners so the future is bleah
@isisisis1234
@isisisis1234 2 жыл бұрын
I generally love SM groups but I can’t get into Aespa because of the blatant favouritism. Karina is pushed so hard for no reason. She is an ok dancer but is stiff. Putting her with Kai was a mistake as it only highlighted her shortcomings. She is not the best singer in the group or rapper and they are all beautiful. So there is no justification for it.
@Joeyy-rt7ww
@Joeyy-rt7ww 2 жыл бұрын
Mia got the most lines because of her ability to sing them. Watch the mr removed and live stages and you'll understand why she got the most lines. You can see how stable she is compare to the other members. and another fact is that Mia is the MAIN vocal and MAIN dancer of the group, the ACE. Sihyeon is the LEAD vocal but she got lots of high notes too especially in the recent comeback. Everglow is a really great and underrated group. I hope people can pay attention on their songs and abilities rather than discrediting Mia's effort. All of Everglow's songs are BOPS!!!
@raeunbee606
@raeunbee606 2 жыл бұрын
YES, AGREE
@tothemoonandback8466
@tothemoonandback8466 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, during their debut people were commenting how Mia has “8 lungs” for being so stable!
@yunaiscutelily3433
@yunaiscutelily3433 2 жыл бұрын
but why does she gets to rap more then main Rapper and even the lead Rapper?💀 why is onda there for anyways if she barley gets to rap
@seungminsabc
@seungminsabc 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but there’s other main dancers like e:u, and other rappers like e:u and Aisha Mia always gets more raps then them.
@digongju
@digongju 2 жыл бұрын
@@yunaiscutelily3433 she doesn’t. literally where stop making shit up
@jordanjohncarloj.8878
@jordanjohncarloj.8878 2 жыл бұрын
I think Mia got the most Line Distribution because she's so stable on their live performances!
@talpaltv
@talpaltv 2 жыл бұрын
And is the only main vocalist!
@pompompompons5844
@pompompompons5844 2 жыл бұрын
if it were for me to have all this highlight that the company would have given her, she should have debuted solo
@morenr7983
@morenr7983 2 жыл бұрын
It is a reason but why put her in a group where the rest don't really have outstanding lines? Im sorry but I haven't seen onda or the others having opportunities to shine too.....
@shooky_bxnny3773
@shooky_bxnny3773 2 жыл бұрын
@@morenr7983 others members already shine like mia ...onda has dance break on first era everyone amazed her also the rapline , dance line
@moonlightespt3818
@moonlightespt3818 2 жыл бұрын
In Aespa all the members get more than 30+ or 40+ seconds in line distributions, their costumes are always matched, no one dresses differently, none of them get special hairstyles that overshadowes the others, all of them have equally endorsements, plus Karina only has 1 dance break, the rappers showcases their vocals and the vocalists rap, they also get solo activities, like karina and winter with GOT, giselle and ningning with collaborations and in programs too.
@user-ms3fm5pu7m
@user-ms3fm5pu7m 2 жыл бұрын
I think that this is a technique to attract attention to the group since people initially tend to focus on individuals rather than a group. Then they get to know the rest of the group with time and eventually the group gets popular much faster. As you see these are all new groups. Old groups like BP started out a bit like that (even if not to this extreme) but that garnered attention to the whole group and now they are almost equally popular. One member attracts attention so that the rest of the group gets popular
@knowlesknowles1356
@knowlesknowles1356 2 жыл бұрын
Fact check: Chaeryoung got the opportunity to be part of Studio Choom 3 months later. I used to feel Yeji and Friends bit but it's no longer there.
@callyyyyyy4896
@callyyyyyy4896 2 жыл бұрын
same thoughts, things are pretty equal now
@knowlesknowles1356
@knowlesknowles1356 2 жыл бұрын
@@callyyyyyy4896 yeah and that's why our kpop news sites like @BeBoss TV should be told to fact check. To avoid hate trains
@justmyedits6596
@justmyedits6596 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is wrong. Chae is the 2nd member of Itzy to be AOTM. She was 2 months before Ryujin. This channel's on drugs
@blackpinkinyourarea123
@blackpinkinyourarea123 2 жыл бұрын
Mia is actually the main vocalist the main danced and sub rapper so obviously she would get the most lines and screen time but of course the other members deserve attention to but she gets most of the lines because she can sing the best and her voice suits the song best and people sometimes forget that onda is a sub vocalist she is not supposed to get a lot of lines she a sup vocalist is a back up vocal
@imuzz
@imuzz 2 жыл бұрын
say it louder
@kpopcookie628
@kpopcookie628 2 жыл бұрын
Onda is a lead vocalist not sub🤦‍♀️
@kpopcookie628
@kpopcookie628 2 жыл бұрын
@Mia biased Forever ahh sorry! Just checked it out and you were right😅
@shooky_bxnny3773
@shooky_bxnny3773 2 жыл бұрын
Fr
@seulgayy_5456
@seulgayy_5456 2 жыл бұрын
Mia is literally just doing her job as the main vocalist, main dancer, in charge of the girl crush concept and rapper of the group. If she’s what you said “being pushed” by the company, she should’ve solo promotions and guestings. Also she stated that she preferred to have hair color instead of the natural color of her hair. 🤷🏻‍♀️
@fariha8983
@fariha8983 2 жыл бұрын
Even if she’s being pushed she’s actually the only one who sings all her lines with those hard choreo n still stable
@seulgayy_5456
@seulgayy_5456 2 жыл бұрын
@@fariha8983 exactly! she’s not company’s favorite bc to me she’s the most overworked member
@gyrthez246
@gyrthez246 2 жыл бұрын
In that case, I fail to understand why she wasn't pushed as a soloist. She's apparently doing all of the work, so why throw her into a group where she has to carry 5 other trainees and eventually idols? You'd spend less budget on ensuring the 5 others are there in promotions, and you'd still have the same outcome. Idols should be able to carry themselves and hold their own within their group, if what you're saying is true, then the other 5 are extremely weak in terms of idols.
@midnighttrend1580
@midnighttrend1580 2 жыл бұрын
@@fariha8983 so what's the point of a group? debut her solo
@meuaerin
@meuaerin 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao Ive's one is so obvious like the stylist is so biased towards Wonyoung. No hate to her but that's unfair.
@onewhiteswan
@onewhiteswan 2 жыл бұрын
People are already familiar with Wonyoung and Yujin... It's other members who need more exposure. If Starship keeps doing this then IVE will never be able to become anything more than Wonyoung-Yujin and Friends
@mariellem7820
@mariellem7820 2 жыл бұрын
Starship isn't pushing wonyoung and yujin because they NEED exposure, they're being pushed because they already HAVE exposure. IVE is a new group so it's easier for them to gather more fans by promoting the 2 most popular members so that their established fanbase and the general public who already know them will be enticed to check out IVE. Through them, IVE will get more attention and in effect, so will the other 4 members. I suspect the others will have their time in the spotlight either after IVE gets a stable fanbase or if they themselves prove to be a hot commodities
@EM-cl7cl
@EM-cl7cl 2 жыл бұрын
I mean GIlde really can't be helped. Soyeon is the composer, songwriter and producer for the majority of their songs, including debut single. It's quite literally HER group. It doesn't function without her. People just got to accept that not every group is structured the same way.
@daisy-ss7cu
@daisy-ss7cu 2 жыл бұрын
if i remember correctly, Mia is the main vocalist and has been like all the time, Sihyeon is the lead vocalist.
@tynkaaa7484
@tynkaaa7484 2 жыл бұрын
Huh? Sihyeon is the main vocal? I thought Mia is the main vocal and Sihyeon is the lead vocal😅
@earthshuman3864
@earthshuman3864 2 жыл бұрын
They are unfair But more than the company what about Stans who only stan one member
@user-bz2om5ik9f
@user-bz2om5ik9f 2 жыл бұрын
Mia is BOTH the main vocalist and dancer, you have to expect her to get way more screen time and lines than the others😐
@rafaelaglow4189
@rafaelaglow4189 2 жыл бұрын
Ok ok ok let me explain about Mia SO first of all Sihyeon HAS NEVER BEEN a main vocalist Mia is the main vocalist main dancer and sub rapper Mia deserves those lines and it makes sense. Now about the hair color thing what the? Onda is doing bright colours to her hair too and Mia has said that she don't rlly like dark hair colours believe it or not that's the truth and please don't ever speak on Everglow again
@enhtanenhypenandbtsstan6509
@enhtanenhypenandbtsstan6509 2 жыл бұрын
I am happy for the girls who are getting chance in everything buttt it's so unfair for other members Edit: I hope the members friendship won't be hurt
@jannah4550
@jannah4550 2 жыл бұрын
Anyways about wonyoung and yujin, i don't think them being mcs should be part of the argument. They're the members with the most experience since they were in izone for 2+ years. They had experinces as mcs even during izone and they're naturally great with words. So in my opinion it's fine on that one. For the studio choom one. Don't Studio Choom choose the artist themselves? I mean.... They're not Studio Choom under JYP ent. right? And why must the gap between when Yeji was AOTM and when Ryujin was AOTM be counted anyways. There are other artists from other groups and companies too. In terms of Soyeon. She's just too talented. She's a producer, a songwriter, a singer etc. She just does a lot. As far as I see it, she contributed a lot to her group. I won't complain. Although I agree that everyone in all groups deserve equal treatment from the company, we can't forget fans biasness too. Sometimes when a member is more popular or biased they stand out more easily. And the company wpuld make use of their popularity, won't they if it clearly would benefit them? Also, just because someone is the centre, or the main vocal, it does not mean they must always have the most lines in songs or always be in the centre. The parts should be divided depending on the concept of the songs and capability of each member (vocally, dance, rap, stage presence, etc.). Generally, people will still find fault in what they wish to see fault in. This is just my opinion. No hate was intended. No hate should be given or spread to anyone.
@evie-mae8923
@evie-mae8923 2 жыл бұрын
Mia is the main vocalist, Sihyeon is lead ❤
@suyeesia7770
@suyeesia7770 2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@aespacomebackburnsm
@aespacomebackburnsm 2 жыл бұрын
Soyeon gidle center so is Karina for aespa ryujin is pushed more then yeji and Mia the main vocalist and Sihyeon is Lead Vocalist
@nisargarao8524
@nisargarao8524 2 жыл бұрын
G- idle they do get to select their lines and soyeon chooses more lines...for that I don't blame her. Soyeon knows the industry and is doing what is best for her. I mean with a untrustworthy company like cube she needs to make her name in the industry otherwise how will she survive when cube is done with her?
@afterlife6411
@afterlife6411 2 жыл бұрын
Wait isn't Mia from everglow and Minnie from (g)idle the Main vocalist? Why did you say they're not then??
@miafuls
@miafuls 2 жыл бұрын
yes mia is the main vocalist. theyre spreading misinfo to make mia get more hate
@aizen3347
@aizen3347 2 жыл бұрын
Are we still in this conversation of soyeon and friends that was so 2018! She ain’t even the most popular member and the others are getting so much recognition as of lately especially Miyeon
@anixa_senpai
@anixa_senpai 2 жыл бұрын
The main vocalist and The main dancer of EVERGLOW is Mia...Sihyeon is the lead Vocalist...
@true_stan_1621
@true_stan_1621 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's karina and friends because people loves winter more in Korea. And other members of itzy are also gets priority and people love the others too. But i have to agree about the ive one. 😔😔. I thought about momoland and ive at first
@angela4375
@angela4375 2 жыл бұрын
agree
@sabrinaxty114
@sabrinaxty114 2 жыл бұрын
Aespa and Itzy have debuted for more than a year, IVE literally debuted a month ago. If we turned back time when both Aespa and Itzy had just debuted, you would see similar things, especially with Aespa. Now, thankfully, every member gets to shine which hopefully IVE members will also do.
@JasonBA96
@JasonBA96 2 жыл бұрын
>5:29 Chae was on a few constests, and the rest of itzy felt like they were meeting a celebrity. Ryujin herself was on mixnine, and got to be on a bts video with yuna. >6:26 ignoring Chaeryeong's AOTM While there are flaws in Div2's management, the recent chae collaboration stages/variety appearences, Yuna's MC gigs and Lia's OST work make the yeji and frineds argument invalid.
@nanalincycurucia6340
@nanalincycurucia6340 2 жыл бұрын
We shouldn’t send them hate every group has the one member that the company pushes more than the others. BTS: the maknae line (specially V) Blackpink: Jennie Got7: Jackson Redvelvet: Irene Twice: Nayeon TXT: yeonjun and soobin Itzy: Yeji I’ve: wonyoung My Point is that I think it’s funny how we the fans (that are supposed to be there for the music) are allowed to have a bias, a member that we love more than the others, but the company isn’t allowed to do it. It’s call marketing. You can’t expect everyone to be treated the same, it just doesn’t work like that specially in the entertainment industry. And if you notice most of the members that are favored by the company are usually the aces or the most talented out of the group so it’s not like they’re being favored by nothing
@karneissiawest7005
@karneissiawest7005 2 жыл бұрын
@ Nanalincy Curucia The Best In The Group That’s So Stupid There Is No One That Is The Best In The Group And That’s Not An Excuse To Disrespect The Other Members And Your Comment Is Clearly Negative
@nanalincycurucia6340
@nanalincycurucia6340 2 жыл бұрын
@@karneissiawest7005 are you blind? I never said BEST in the group I said Ace or most talented. There is no such thing as BEST Member that’s bullshit. And How is my comment negative? I just want to know. Everything I stated before is facts. It is a market strategy and you really can’t expect everyone to be treated equally, when all companies care about is the money. Please use your critical thinking before responding. I dint send hate to anyone nor did I disrespect anyone, not everything is negative.
@kpopstan4504
@kpopstan4504 2 жыл бұрын
@@karneissiawest7005 Girl how is she been negative? Are you 10 years old? She didn’t said best member she said Ace. You need to realize that the kpop industry is not a pink fair world. I agree with everything she said.
@joylab0202
@joylab0202 2 жыл бұрын
Sihyeon's official positions are lead vocalist and leader. Mia is the main vocal of the group, as well as a sub rapper and main dancer.
@mutiarat170
@mutiarat170 2 жыл бұрын
Ive : Wooyoung and Friends ✅ Aespa : Karina and Friends ❎
@user-lj3po4nt6n
@user-lj3po4nt6n 2 жыл бұрын
6:20 JYP DOESN'T DECIDE WHO THE ARTIST OF THE MONTH IS GONNA BE🤨
@miafuls
@miafuls 2 жыл бұрын
girl bye sihyeon has never been the main vocalist, mia is the only main vocalist in the group. sihyeon is lead vocalist. mia is the main vocalist, main dancer, and is a rapper in the group, she didn’t just start rapping randomly recently. she’s been doing raps since adios. she’s an ace and has a lot of talent. don’t spread misinformation, you clearly know nothing about everglow so stay away from them and forevers. and hair colors seriously mean nothing why are you reaching so much???? please just leave her alone she already gets so much hate and it affects her confidence. she knows about everything and talked about it in their documentary. we are so tired of her being treated like this
@urvirtualangel
@urvirtualangel 2 жыл бұрын
UPPPP !!!
@pompompompons5844
@pompompompons5844 2 жыл бұрын
man I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that there's no way a member can occupy several places at the same time we're not playing the hate anymore but we want fair treatment for the remains of the members and that the company doesn't give the everglow views lowered why the company it messed up mia's lines too much in the age of adios it was even acceptable but after dundun mia sings more than a minute and mia only has vocals the rest was left to other members which in this case is dance and rap and also vocal for the rest of the members
@pompompompons5844
@pompompompons5844 2 жыл бұрын
if it were for me to have all this highlight that the company would have given her, she should have debuted solo
@RMB-yw5bj
@RMB-yw5bj 2 жыл бұрын
Mia is actually the main vocalist in everglow not Sihyeon .... she's lead vocalist and center of the group
@asm2171
@asm2171 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't think itzy's case is as bad as the other groups in this list.
@staypinkYgee
@staypinkYgee 2 жыл бұрын
Not only fans but companies should also treat the members equally💫
@lxveyoongi6552
@lxveyoongi6552 2 жыл бұрын
about YEJI AND FRIENDS i dont think it sits well with me , allow me to explain. Although ryujin is the center she still stood out and got a fair amount of center position and got her aotm , not only that she got her best recognition on wannabe comeback and also when she was found on bts highlight reel and also known as an actress , dont forget her acting seen on mama. coming to chaeryeong she was quite popular when she appeared on the show sixteen with twice and also got the aotm not long after yeji's , she is also well known as chaeyeongs sister and get her own stage with her and has her center of attention on the recent comebacks like mitm hip swaing part and is getting dancebreaks on award shows and rmber the pole dancing ,she was also give the mc oppotunity and also got the stage with yuna that cover dance i dot rmmber . when we go towards yuna , when she appeared on bts highlight with ryujin she got her attention aswell , not to mention she is also very well treated on her visuals and body and her era on icy although yeji got her dancebreak everyones eyes were only on yuna cuz of her bubbly and cute stage presence, with her loaded charisma and also cute side she is appreciated to pull any concept of and she was given the rap in twenty as an opportunity which only made her more well known as a rapper and fans want more , she also appeared on that fairy stage with shuhua , wonyoung and etc also on the stage with chaeryeong , she also had her oppotunities on mc's etc, now coming to lia she is very pretty and cute which ppl get intruged towards her she got her stage with han and bangchan a while ago and also is appreciated with her vocals , she is very well adored and got 2 staged with stray kids , people in inteviews always or usually put her in the center as she is very good at english also with her cute personality ppl tend to like her alot , she is also fairy appreciated on her stage presence and her own type of aura , she can pull of any concept and her figure intruiging ppl , lets not forget her dalla dalla teaser where everyone thought she was the visual. in the combeack not hsy and after that she was highly praised for improving her dancing and got her centers and bridges on mv's . ITZY IS A FAIR GROUP AND IT BLENDS WELL WITH ONE ANOTHER ON THE POINT NO ONE IS DISSAPOINTED WITH MV YOU GUYS GET AND THE OPPOTUNITIES THE MEMBERS GET BY THEMSELVES ARE ENOUGH TO TELL YOU YEJI IS ALSO A PART OF ITZY AND THE LEADER , THEIR OUTFITS DOSENT REALLY REFLECT ON THEIR REPUTAIONS IF RYUJIN HAS THE BEST OUTFIT ON THIS STAGE THEN CHAERYEONG HAS THE BEST ON THE OTHER , IF LIA HAS A RED LIP THEN YEJI HAS AN EXPREIMENTAL HAIRSTYLE , ITS VERY DIVERSE AND BALANCED MAYBE ONE OR 2 ARE COMPRIMISABLE NOT TO TURN IT INTO A CONTROVERCIES. BASED ON THE VISUALS... ITZY IS NOW KNOWN AS A VISUAL GROUP AND HATE ON CHAERYEONGS VISUAL GOT SO TONED DOWN SHE HAS HER OWN FANBASE SAME GOES FOR LIA. NOW ITS ITZY AND MIDZY I HOPE YOU GUYES ARE STAISFIED GOODBYE , IM SORRY FOR WRITING SO MUCH.
@claraaaaas
@claraaaaas 2 жыл бұрын
I dont agree with the "Soyeon and friends". Soyeon is literally the pillar of (G)I-DLE. Whiteout her, we wouldn't get the bops that gidle produced. And all beacuse of Soyeon. Other members also part take in producing too. Soyeon is suitable. She is the leader. She guided the whole group. So it's not fair to call Soyeon and friends. And cube is pushing her because she is talented and smart and knows what to do! So "Soyeon and friends" is totally ridiculous!
@daniellanikolaou8394
@daniellanikolaou8394 2 жыл бұрын
you are spreading misinformation about everglow and it will cause mia to get hate. mia is the only main vocalist of everglow. sihyeon is a lead vocalist. and mia has explained that she doesn’t like dark hair colours on herself, therefore it’s not because “yuehua wants her to stand out” or whatever u said. do research before you make videos like this that may start a hate train on mia. she doesn’t deserve any of this, and although it isn’t mia’s fault that she gets the most lines in most songs, she still gets continuous hate towards her and videos like this with misinformation aren’t helping. and i’m not trying to be mean but it is tiring hearing people speak bad on mia when this isn’t her fault at all. mia is an ace and yuehua realizes that so she gets the most lines, and that’s completely normal for a main vocalist, and when she doesn’t even get the most lines people still seem to have a problem with her. AND when people use “mia & friends” as a comeback or to be funny, it ISNT funny because mia knows all about the hate she gets and that saying will make her feel terrible. so stop saying it. it isn’t funny. leave mia alone.
@silmashabiha6508
@silmashabiha6508 2 жыл бұрын
as a pro midzy who really looked and followed itzy from debut until now, I disagree with “yeji and friends” called…no it’s not. TRUST ME
@ronc9413
@ronc9413 2 жыл бұрын
Karina and Yeji are more noticeable because of their unique looks (face). Soyeon is the leader, writes/produces most of (G)I-DLE’s songs. Other aspects (like the clothing), I didn’t “catch” that it was favoritism. Like Yeji’s outfit with the giant cutout in shape of a heart, I just thought of it as bad styling.
@marcerieti_exo-l
@marcerieti_exo-l 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly think in itzy's case Ryujin is way more popular at lease overseas.
@abbyk6079
@abbyk6079 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't 8 months between Yeji and the next member for AOTM, Chaeryoung came before Ryujin.
@user-my1zq8kj4s
@user-my1zq8kj4s 2 жыл бұрын
This channel gives so many wrong information 💀
@shydoorness
@shydoorness 2 жыл бұрын
Can't help it, soyeon is the brain of the group. The ultimate genius of kpop today.
@suyeesia7770
@suyeesia7770 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@kessi4946
@kessi4946 2 жыл бұрын
do you really want to tell me that dyeing your hair is favoritism? mia is the MAIN VOCAL, MAIN DANCER and she also knows how to rap, you wish she would stay behind without moving? my girl doesn't train to exhaustion even hurt to you always bring this stupid narrative of mia & friends. it's EVERGLOW. got get some help and leave her alone weirdos.
@morenr7983
@morenr7983 2 жыл бұрын
NO HATE but why create a group when giving the most outstanding role to just one member ? The purpose of a group is litterally not existent
@quynhanhnguyen9186
@quynhanhnguyen9186 2 жыл бұрын
I don't agree on Itzy, I genuinely think they all got to shine with very fair distribution. I never noticed anyone standing out more than the other in general, not to mention they're such a Monster package of a well-rounded, talented group😊
@eoeocxcx
@eoeocxcx 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh I don't think ITZY is as serious as other groups. The first member I knew in ITZY was Ryujin , after that Yeji and Yuna (Take note that I wasn't a Kpop fan in 2019). Though Yeji might be promoted a little bit more by the company, I do think the other members do get their equivalent promotes such as MC-ing . I don't stan their group but sadly I do think there are 2 members that doesn't really get much attention.
@naledimosikara7861
@naledimosikara7861 2 жыл бұрын
Why don't you Stan itzy?🥺 As a midzy, yes I do agree with you when u say that sometimes itzy does give off "yeji and friends" vibe, I also don't think it's THAT big of a deal
@eoeocxcx
@eoeocxcx 2 жыл бұрын
@@naledimosikara7861 i don't really stan girl groups but i do look at their news occasionally and listen to their songs
@naledimosikara7861
@naledimosikara7861 2 жыл бұрын
@@eoeocxcx so what groups do you Stan bestie☺️
@eoeocxcx
@eoeocxcx 2 жыл бұрын
@@naledimosikara7861 TXT and Ateez (new) hehe
@naledimosikara7861
@naledimosikara7861 2 жыл бұрын
@@eoeocxcx SAME 😍☺️ are those the only 2 groups you listen to? I would also suggest stray kids, iKON (their older comebacks with B.I), twice, itzy, mamamoo, red velvet, everglow, g-idle,seventeen and enhypen(sorry for wrong spelling)...I wanna get into monster X🤔
@AnnaBrown99
@AnnaBrown99 2 жыл бұрын
5:13 in jyp, center’s role are not the same with those SM and produce groups. Instead of being the center of attention, center is the one who can bring the best version of the group. Just look at twice (although nayeon is the center, ppl also notice the other members almost equally) 6:02 Yeji is the most stable when singing and dancing at the same time. That’s why she got the most line distributions. 6:24 chaeryoung and ryujin also become the artist of the month, who was the first is not important 6:39 what I notice, chaer and yuna usually got the most beautiful outfit. Experimental cloth is not a good thing, I’m glad that yeji could pull it off
@teoyeekeecchms6480
@teoyeekeecchms6480 2 жыл бұрын
in my opinion, all rounders like mia, soyeon and yeji should become a soloist instead, to avoid people complaining about them standing out too much
@taylorswiftismybae
@taylorswiftismybae 2 жыл бұрын
mia’s main vocalist tho, sihyeon is the lead vocalist
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