5 MAIN REASONS VINCE IS BETTER THAN HHH (RANT)

[@cjax525]

The ppl saying “it’s an unfair comparison” are the same ppl who say the "hhh era is better than the Vince era" so why not compare the 2. If 2 years of booking is enough for fans to call hhh better than a guy who booked for 40 years, I can compare them both on what they’ve done for the business😂😂

[@HomeChallengerLilWon]

Liv babied Rhea Ripley at SummerSlam and Bad Blood. They need to give Iyo Zelina and all those other women in the back shots again.

[@HomeChallengerLilWon]

Liv hurt Rhea cause Rhea hurt her and Raquel Rodriguez last year and put them out. By the way she didn't beat Raquel clean, Nia Jax interference cost her. Liv Morgan went into Judgement Day and made herself comfortable by helping Dominik beat Rey Mysterio. Something Rhea didn't bother doing. Rhea only beats up guys that are smaller, or not weaker than her but never once tried that with Randy Orton. But Mae Young at the age of 80 and still lived a couple years after. Rhea had all squash matches since she won the title from Charlotte at Mania 39 and Becky at Mania 40. Charlotte, Ronda and Becky was in the main event at Wrestlemania. Rhea on the other hand will never main event WrestleMania. Then to finish it off, Liv is a girly girl. Small quick and swift and Rhea just some Slipnot wannabe that beats up women who doesn't stand a chance with her. Trish Stacy Keibler and Lita could've easily outshined Rhea ANYDAY.

[@aceventurapetdetective1736]

Yeah but Vince was also in the same spot. The difference isn't era related. It's about risks. Triple H isn't taking risks. I understand why but simply worrying about what snowflakes think is the problem. When Carlito made that joke WWE didn't stand by him. The problem is that WWE need to back their stars with promos that are controversial. Mistakes should be allowed in order for superstars to have freedom to be creative. Look at Dave Chappelle. Never apologize. Believe in what you say and never apologize for it. Especially when you know what you meant and others just can't understand. I also don't like that WWE are pushing certain superstars just because of nepotism or diversity. Nia shouldn't be champion. And Damian Priest just isn't the guy. Montez Ford is ready. The point is that the only ones who should get that push are the ones who can put 5 star matches but most of all connect with the crowd. The ones who can work a crowd and be different from others are the ones who need to be at the top. Liv Morgan isn't that person either

[@brianalex8883]

Those are the same people who say that about Tony kohn and Vince McMahon he has been doing it longer

[@CJThoo]

Nah you uh fucking 🤡and fucking 🦆 stop making videos Vince didn't tdo shit in last 15 years but break his stars tf this is why aew was mad wtf are tlking bout

[@Daniboi971]

It was just better back in the day. It just was.

[@idontevenknow741]

2021 and 2022 were actually good years for wwe tbh

[@dwaynejpeterkin]

U wanted him gone and now he’s gone don’t cry now

[@M._mkid]

​@@idontevenknow741 2021 business wise no. Back to Back releases

[@JayBradley-o5k]

Vince In HIS PRIME was better than TK and HHH. Mid-90s-2010 Vince was epic

[@payrysdoscs4903]

Then 2010 started and...

[@westernsellers9148]

Paul Heyman is overrated

[@faizkhan99945]

​@@payrysdoscs4903Undertaker, Shawn Michaels & Triple H gave you back to back classics at WrestleMania, Brock returned, Cena & Rock gave us a dream match of the ages, the Shield’s introduction, Roman Reigns pushed happened.. And WWE was still pulling average 4 million viewership every week during 2011 to 2014 compare that to the 1.5 they get every week now which could potentially drop below 1 million by the end of the next year by considering Raw and SmackDown had it's lowest viewership this year.Undertaker, Shawn Michaels & Triple H gave you back to back classics at WrestleMania, Brock returned, Cena & Rock gave us a dream match of the ages, the Shield’s introduction, Roman Reigns pushed happened.. And WWE was still pulling average 4 million viewership every week during 2011 to 2014 compare that to the 1.5 they get every week now which could potentially drop below 1 million by the end of the next year by considering Raw and SmackDown had it's lowest viewership this year..

[@Papellxhase]

@@payrysdoscs4903take it back to 09. It was some bullshit happening in 09 & then ‘10 came & the rest of the 2010s was a breaking point & the covid era was just 👎🏽

[@khesipresents1885]

Vince got lazy and relied on older stars... but still even that Vince is miles better than tK and hhh​@@payrysdoscs4903

[@HPLovesCraftsCat]

vince built wwe. end of story

[@IBelieveinJoehendryTNA]

And hulk hogan did as well

[@abdullahalghamdi664]

@@IBelieveinJoehendryTNAno Vince did , hulk hogan might have been the star at the time but he didn’t build anything .

[@RedVoteRedemption]

Title reigns during HHH are BORING AF!!!!

[@Namedoesnotmatter4]

I'd say everything is boring. That dude is fucked up in the mind and needs to resign

[@ezekielcaselton5842]

People on my messageboard been killing me because I keep calling out HHH's lack of development. Liv is "elevated" because she gets her ass kicked and runs from Rhea every Monday.

[@gtg305h]

Been saying the same about Liv bro!

[@TheTaintedAura]

People hatred for Vince is blinding them from Triple H bad booking especially when it come to The Womens division

[@christian6455]

Bro vince had Bianca Blair Walking on the moon. That how much she was push and successful

[@heist-jv6cg]

​​​@@christian6455she has become an afterthought now.. And just like vince in his last few years, hhh is shoving war games down our throats..

[@raphmaz4914]

Sure all time there is not even a debate Vince done it for decades and booked almost every greatest match ever… but to be fair those last years he had were garbage. After 2012/13 Vince had terrible decisions and didn’t want to push any wrestler who don’t fit his perception of WWE champion. Even before wrestler like Bret, CM Punk, Kofi, Samoa Joe, Christian, Bray Wyatt and many others. I mean u can’t perfectly every time but for those wrestler he just didn’t like them and they could have done more than Vince allowed them to. Also Triple H is just beginning let him some time.

[@raphmaz4914]

*book perfectly

[@xgray2012]

I was wrong. Things were a lot better in WWE when Vince McMahon was in charge.

[@MpiloNhlapo-p5t]

Thank you atleast someone opens their eyes

[@lightingthief4482]

He had his few bad years, especially in the late 2010's but we can't forget about how legendary his bookings had been, especially the Aggression and Attitude eras

[@MpiloNhlapo-p5t]

@@lightingthief4482 True

[@dwaynejpeterkin]

Good that you realized that

[@JuniorStarH2O]

Why Vince McMahon is 100 million times better "If his not drawing any money his must go" - Vince McMahon , Triple H is a mark pushing his black and gold darlings it doesn't matter if they draw or don't. Triple H hiring people that can go in he ring but can't act or cut promos

[@f7or1n]

What i hate is that Triple H lied to us, we were promised an active champion after Roman loses and what we got instead is a worse Roman Reigns.

[@lebron2x_]

Cody is an active champion🤦🏾‍♂️

[@marmiteplayz215]

@@lebron2x_fr

[@yelhsanosnhoj6602]

What is this fascination with “active champions”? It’s like yall always got something new to complain about. Just stop watching.

[@marmiteplayz215]

@@yelhsanosnhoj6602 yeah they do complain so much but Cody is active anyway so idk why they saying this shit

[@f7or1n]

​@@lebron2x_ he didnt defend his title since september 13

[@hungryalmighty7156]

Vince focused on the Star power Hhh focuses on in ring work That’s where the problem lies with hhh booking.

[@faizkhan99945]

because he caters to smarks

[@Darkside-bv2zh]

The last thing Triple H does is focus on in ring work. All he does is focus on stories. If he did focus on in ring work Cody wouldn't be a champion

[@rjwright6197]

Why do you even have a platform to speak 😂

[@faizkhan99945]

@@rjwright6197 neckbeard detected

[@yangakalane3526]

Carlito winning the United States Championship on his debut,the Undertaker streak felt as the world heavyweight championship with prestige,Randy Orton punt kick era in the legend killer character

[@colindowden2182]

Dude, there was no 50% booing for Roman; everyone was booing him before he became the tribal chief.

[@RedVoteRedemption]

No not everyone, stop the cap.

[@colindowden2182]

@RedVoteRedemption Dude I was there majority of the fans were booing him.

[@RedVoteRedemption]

@ that’s just the IWC, they don’t represent everyone…They’re clowns. These are the same people who cried for Cody to win at WM but will turn around and say WWE is predictable 😑

[@marmiteplayz215]

@@RedVoteRedemptionno literally everyone hated him no joke And also give me 3 reasons why Roman should have retained at WM 40 what amazing banger feuds could he do? There was like nothing left for him as champ

[@tyroneisrael5631]

​@@RedVoteRedemptionEveryone was booing him to oblivion. That's why they turned him heel. It saved his career

[@hungryalmighty7156]

The raw Netflix deal is hhh last chance. Cause I see alot of people saying “oh theyr just waiting for Netflix and mania season” if hhh can’t tell good stories and build great superstars in 2025 with the Netflix deal, than there is no excuse

[@Dre384]

Bro said last chance😂😂😂😂😂Wwe is already booming because of his booking try again though Mr last chance

[@MaazKhan-hy2wk]

Obviously WWE had to shift to Netflix because their viewership was at an all time low, Raw had the lowest record this year

[@Jinx2v1]

@@Dre384☝🏽🤓

[@lightingthief4482]

​@MaazKhan-hy2wk the only reason it isn't even worst is solely because of the Bloodline storyline

[@afraeemsakib4588]

Before question someone's capability learn the difference between then & than

[@LilsedGaming-w4z]

The fans made that Daniel Bryan moment not vince

[@Papellxhase]

Agreed & even though the 2010s were bad the standout moments imo was cm punks 434 reign, Daniel Bryan moment at mania & Becky in 2019 other than that wwe was a garbage product until Vince fully left

[@Darkside-bv2zh]

That Daniel Bryan moment was a bust. He couldn't stay healthy enough to stay active and that building wwe was doing for Roman got crashed because fans supported a broken toy. Fans don't need an opinion about anything because they always support the wrong person

[@Papellxhase]

@ Vince didn’t go through with turning roman heel not 1 bit. Roman should’ve been a bad guy not a hero. Just imagine if he started a heel run a decade ago & then slowly transitioned into the tribal chief🔥. Everything turned out good for roman in the end but Bryan was just hotter at the time & way more over than roman could’ve been

[@Darkside-bv2zh]

@@Papellxhase him being over didn't help his body stay healthy and that was just a failure for wwe supporting him because he had fan support. His run when he became a main eventer was a disappointment because he became unreliable and that led to wwe turning him into a color commentary talent until he left wwe for aew because wwe doctors didn't want to clear him to wrestle again. It's painfully evident in aew too since he's only had an active full year since being with them for what 3 years now. He just can't stay active long to do anything

[@rjwright6197]

@@Darkside-bv2zhare you 12 bro never give your opinion ever again please you need your machine taken and given to a needy family

[@bobbykushington]

Triple H era includes overly extended title reigns, start n stop booking(start a new gimmick then suddenly stop it), and predictable world title matches.

[@hungryalmighty7156]

Fueds made by vince Cena and edge Cena and orton Cena and rock Cena and punk Cena and styles Cena and Batista Cena and Roman Taker and hbk Taker and hhh Taker and Batista The shield and evolution Jeff hardy and cm punk Jeff hardy and edge Hhh and orton Taker and orton Roman and Seth Roman and Cody(mania 39) Orton and Batista Hbk and y2j The list goes on

[@faizkhan99945]

Keeping the tag team titles on the Bloodline or Judgment Day and never scheduling title defenses makes for them. He doesn’t elevate the women’s division at all, outside of Rhea, Liv, Nia and Tiffany.. His only true concern is making sure Cody Rhodes stays relevant and looks like a god-tier megastar, while others get ignored, devalued or stuck in filler storylines. A very very few good short term storylines make the show underwhelming, he just gives us repetitive boring storylines in the name of long term storyline. He’s too obsessed with being the perfect, most polished booker and is afraid to take risks for fear of flopping. He caters to IWC smarks too much. He also plays favorites similar to Vince McMahon but on boring indy midget darlings. Most importantly he is racist, he claims not to see color, but black talents only got opportunities under Vince..

[@Supreme_Cipher]

Well said, I second that emotion.

[@RonWeassly]

What you’re advocating for though, is, “episodic storytelling.” Russo and Ferrara used to do that well by making the TV as addicting as possible while still getting people hyped for the PPVs. Just “being wrestling,” is what Triple H is doing now. Each episode of RAW and SD during the late 90s to 2000s always, usually, had a story thread through the episode and it would culminate in the last match or segment on RAW. Episodic storytelling is why most of us became wrestling fans with WWF/WWE.

[@heist-jv6cg]

You hit the nail!!.. Episodic storytelling has become a lost art.. Now, if Roman or Cody have a segment at the start of the show, you can say they are gone for the remainder of the show..

[@brandonbates9259]

They literally just did this last week on Smackdown and it's not the only time lol bunch of lying mf's..I see the problem, you guys don't really watch anymore,so how tf are you complaining abt something you don't watch??

[@RonWeassly]

@brandonbates9259 No, I actually agree with you! SmackDown has been playing with this formula for a few weeks now. My only complaint is that we’re not getting too much sub plots with lower card talent. We see flashes of that, but it’s gotta be an entire episode thing. The story of Roman and Bloodline OG getting their ass beat and needing to call Paul Heyman was great. And that ending with the answering machine? That was some damn good stuff IMO. Now that felt like an end to a good TV show. I hope they do more stuff like that.

[@brandonbates9259]

@@RonWeassly Oh lol my bad..And see I ain't even things are just out right great but the intrigued is there with a few improvements it can be and I believe it will be

[@diobrando1501]

Vince would never let People off for the holidays. Everyone gets time off now, and everyone ends up injured. Vince made you put in the effort

[@dimitripierre294]

Too many pre taped shows

[@yelhsanosnhoj6602]

Yes they don’t wanna make the sacrifices most successful people have to make, they just want things handed to them because they’re a WoRK hORsE and that is why they aren’t superstars outside of the SMALL wrestling community

[@faizkhan99945]

Exactly, and that’s why their bodies are more prone to injuries because they don’t wrestle, now they got way too comfortable or soft. Because HHH just wants appreciation from wrestlers, making people think he’s a great and supportive boss, unlike Vince, by giving them leaves. Vince cares about his company a lot, always ready to work and expects the same from other wrestlers when needed. HHH’s only concern is getting praise and appreciation

[@israeloagiledintlhe4166]

Well, the thing with the human body is, the more you do something the more conditioned your body becomes and it adapts leading to less injuries, but with the inactivity of modern day wrestlers, of course they're gonna be injured frequently because of lack of conditioning 🤷🏾‍♂️...

[@brandonbates9259]

You mf's are crazy man 😂😂 wtf are we doing right now?? How many times did Triple H tear his quad??? Lita stayed injured in the mid 2000's,Edge kept getting injured, Orton had plenty of injuries in the 2000's-2010's

[@payrysdoscs4903]

Ask basically anyone else online and they'll say that Vince's *booking*, specifically from 2009 to 2022, got more nonsensical as time went along. Was the talent pool in that time frame way bigger and deeper than today's? On the main roster, absolutely. But the kind of shit that man cooked up in terms of booking decisions were absolute trash. There's way too many examples to list here; just search "bad 2010s Vince McMahon booking decisions" and you'll find some egregious stuff.

[@DannyTruthMagnified]

They were bad decisions, but Vince at his worst still built bigger larger than life stars and created more compelling storylines than Triple H ever has. I will not contribute The Bloodline storyline to Triple H. That is all Paul Heyman, The Rock, Roman Reigns and even Rikishi on the sidelines.

[@JokerG16]

@@DannyTruthMagnified and Vince, as it started under him.

[@Papellxhase]

@@DannyTruthMagnifiedI’ll give Vince this, he wasnt scared to give people titles & put people in positions in which didn’t make sense for sure but to say he had some compelling stories is just a bad take lol. Vince from 09-2022 was a brain rot pig atp. Wwe was unwatchable during that period. What’s different is hhh is going with the internets influence instead of giving people chances & titles like Vince did sure but in no way in hell is I’m taking Vince from 09-2022 over hhh lol , I’ll take late 90s & 00s Vince anyday though

[@DannyTruthMagnified]

@@Papellxhase With Vince, we were clearly on the road to Bianca Belair vs Rhea Ripley at Mania. He booked both of them strong because they are clearer the two most talented and over women on the roster. Vince went with what would draw the most. Sometimes for the best, sometimes not. But he always went "BIG" which always made things interesting, even if we complained. Under Triple H, we have Bianca doing jacks*** in a go-nowhere tag team and Rhea in a cycle of losing to Liv Morgan in a storyline that no one gives a damn about. And all of these other women that have zero connection with the fans and garner zero crowd reaction getting a bunch of wasted attention and TV time. This is just one example of how Triple H's "everyone gets an opportunity" booking is WAY worse than Vince on his worst day.

[@rjwright6197]

@@DannyTruthMagnifieddawg H has literally been in 2 years and you’re comparing a decade worth of Vince. Are you going to forget getting Roman Reigns, John Cena, Jinder mahal, Alberto del rio, Jack Swagger, part time Brock lesner, Goldberg and many others down our throats. The only standouts are guys like Daniel Bryan and cm punk who got over by themselves and I guess some guys like Rollins and others. Are we really going to ignore how he treated people like Zack Ryder and dolph ziggler tho. Yeah wrestling fans like you don’t even deserve a platform to speak on you fool. You need your machine taken and given to a kid in a poor country who can get some proper use out of it.

[@rikudoubapeck]

Especially agree with your points on the women's booking and the comparison with Bianca vs Becky. It's great to still hear that program get the deserved praise

[@RealityRick]

Bro is really out here defending Vince McMahon when if Cjax joined the WWE under Vince he’d get the kofi treatment 💀💀💀

[@andrebyrdjr2617]

😂😂😂😂

[@Darkside-bv2zh]

Us watching wwe now are getting the Kofi Kingston treatment every time we watch these shows. Only thing interesting about WWE is The Bloodline and this isn't even triple h idea

[@robinehumphries9]

Literally when I watch the documentary I cried so bad because it was a lot happening and I feel like Vince got bullied and held against his will because I remember he was saying I wish everything was normal because he just had a dream making people Stars and being great but things happens

[@Pastregulation]

Vince is goated. One of the best stories was told on a random ass Raw. When Stone Cold as commissioner made HHH defend his title against a former champion. It turned from HHH picking Flair to just lie down for him to Ric Flair doubting himself then proving he could still “go” in the ring. All in 1 episode not 20 5 minute scenes spread over 30 episodes of raw.

[@Supreme_Cipher]

There's no such thing as WWE, without the genius Vincent K. McMahon. It's now a shell of what was the greatest wrestling promotion to ever exist besides maybe NWA.

[@b.a.d.wavesradio7314]

Montez is a certified star!

[@Supreme_Cipher]

He will never see the main event scene because he's a so-called black man, thankfully we still have Bianca Belair who can carry the torch for both of them.

[@marquiswolf2766]

⁠@@Supreme_Cipherhe will be in the main event scene this stuff takes time patience is key

[@TyzikThunder]

Some people will try and argue that ''long term storytelling'' is everything.

[@ThomasTheIV]

It literally is. Triple H just isn't good at it.

[@JokerG16]

@@ThomasTheIV bingo

[@lightingthief4482]

It does matter...if done right. Long storylines can be extremely engaging. The Bloodline is the perfect example of it

[@marquiswolf2766]

It is otherwise AEW would be doing better 😂

[@robinehumphries9]

The shield vs Wyatt family so iconic I still go back and see that OMG

[@vokenando4160]

I've been questioning HHH's booking for a few months now, and I agree with you. Obviously as people I will undoubtedly prefer HHH over Vince, but Vince's craziness did make WWE reach certain levels. Levels that I don't know if HHH can produce. They're two different extremes where Vince for better or worse made you curious on what he would do. HHH has already programmed us to his booking system where he'll rarely give us a surprise, or shocking decision.

[@dimitripierre294]

I miss Vince triple h can’t spot talent or athletes. Triple h only likes his nxt guys and wwe ID indie talent

[@rjwright6197]

None of his nxt guys are even over right now what are you even spouting dog you just talk to talk that’s it

[@JokerG16]

Triple H could spot talent, but Vince could spot a super star! that's the biggest difference between them.

[@Supreme_Cipher]

It's like night and day between the two, and honestly, I hoped Paul did better since Vince McMahon made him a household name, a mega star.

[@dbradandthem2727]

HHH is living off the Bloodline aka Roman reigns, which was under Vince. Take that away and outside of Punk/McIntyre, I don't recall many programs

[@christian6455]

Punk and Mcintyre legit went off script to make it interesting. That was them living off the feud and money. Themselves. Hhh wanted Seth Vs Punk Over Drew. So it really just Roman and Paul under hhh program.

[@Dre384]

Judgement day storyline, Rhea and Liv, you also has the bayley and damage control ect shall I continue like what are we talking about y’all don’t watch wwe and it shows

[@theonlygoodonehere2259]

@@Dre384 horrible just horrible

[@Dre384]

@@theonlygoodonehere2259 nun of that was horrible stop talking lmaooo

[@kngkashi7759]

@@Dre384bro lost me at Rhea/Liv and then even had the nerve to add Bayley….😂 we watching 2 different show my guy…

[@heist-jv6cg]

Remember Montez Ford had a one on one title match against Roman Reigns in 2021?!?!..Oh, how bad the booking has been and how far Montez has fallen..

[@jonhperez6068]

He lost

[@nocapper5543]

Montez ford isn’t even on the same stratosphere as bron breaker let alone Roman. Yall just want him to push black superstars let’s stop the bs. The only black superstars worth mentioning are trick, Carmelo, Bianca, and jade 🤦‍♂️

[@Supreme_Cipher]

He will never see the Main Event because he's black. The end.

[@CryingLord]

CJ you sound like HHH traumatized you as a kid bruh 😭😭

[@tjferdinand6850]

Vince was way better at booking stars. HHH hasn't created any since.

[@Supreme_Cipher]

He can't every big star he currently has, is a Vinny Mac invention. Except maybe Jade Cargill, Bronson Reed, and the New Bloodline guys minus Solo Sikoa. #WWE #Wrestling

[@thalesfernandes5176]

Jey Uso is a basketball player? LA Knight is a mechanic? Damian Priest is some kind of engineer?

[@Supreme_Cipher]

@@thalesfernandes5176 Bro what?

[@ShaunInce123]

Nothing has impressed me when it comes to the past 2 years that Triple H has booked these shows. These people are gaslighting everyone into believing it's good, when it's not

[@Supreme_Cipher]

It's the drizzling sh'ts.

[@marquiswolf2766]

2018/2019 was so good huh?

[@Supreme_Cipher]

@marquiswolf2766 That was terrible Vinny started losing touch but then the 2020 pandemic era came around and he regained touch.

[@GloGangPromoterr]

⁠@@marquiswolf2766 2020 - 2021 ?

[@brentmichael4770]

Bro love your stuff! We need you and The Haters Channel to form an unstoppable tag team collaboration!

[@the_hinkid]

I would love that but the problem is that they don't agree on some stuff

[@the_hinkid]

For example, Seth Rollins, Liv morgan, the bloodline story, and a few others but it would be cool

[@cjax525]

That would be awesome

[@GloGangPromoterr]

@@cjax525 I agree with everything you said in the video but Gunther a bum ? That’s kinda crazy 😭

[@jeremy.894]

Mr macmahon was a great heel and he knew how to create stars .

[@robinehumphries9]

I hate it for Vince McMahon right now because he was just a kid and just had a dream to make stars and now just for it to be taken away from him is crazy

[@DanTrustsTheFathersPlan]

Even the 1995 New Gen era hits different compared to the subpar malarkey of this current product.

[@Papellxhase]

Idk about that😂 the 90e were awful & Bret & taker & Shawn was carrying them on their back up until around 97 & that’s when wwe really took off

[@brandonbates9259]

​@@Papellxhase 1995 was absolutely terrible lol wtf is wrong these people.They act like things are just out right terrible right now.To the point where they have to lie and say that possibly the worst year ever wasn't so bad 😂😂😂

[@brandonbates9259]

​@@Papellxhaseand 1997 really took off because Wcw pretty much forced Vince to step up and that he did..but this Triple H slander has gone overboard 😂

[@marquiswolf2766]

Y’all funny bruh 90’s were horrible 😂 today WWE is much better

[@brandonbates9259]

@@marquiswolf2766 That's why they gave no comeback lol their full of sh*t with their little wack shock value comments

[@Jessica_Roth]

Have either Liv or Rhea cut a promo referencing how they used to be tag-team partners and how "I trusted you and you stabbed me in the back, etc!"?? Seems as though there's a pile of promo juice that's going untapped.

[@jaymendezz]

Take Vince’s first 3 years vs HHH first 3, this ain’t a fair comparison brother

[@cjax525]

It’s fair cuz most of the audience says “hhh era is better than the Vince era” so why not compare the 2. If 2 years of booking is enough for fans to call hhh better than a guy who booked for 40 years, I can compare

[@jaymendezz]

@ I’ve been watching since 97, I think it’s just 2 different approaches. HHH approaches it like a tv show, with Wrestlemania being the big season finale, WM40 finale being one of the greatest things I’ve ever seen. Vince would roll out of bed and have Undertaker lose at mania to Lesnar, Cena bury Nexus, Austin heel turn, the poor and rushed WCW Invasion. I agree it has been slow, but I’m sure it will lead to something big, which is right around the corner. I also think there waiting till Netflix to “get crazy”. Love your videos bro, and I think you’re hilarious.

[@homeoftek5844]

​@@jaymendezz 1. Lesnar beating Taker is believable. If anyone could end the streak, it's Lesnar 2. The Nexus were a bunch of boring jobbers that would've gotten buried anyhow. It's not Cena's fault they were trash 3. If Rock could get away with being a cool heel the crowd likes, why can't Austin? 4. WCW (and ECW) superstars were obviously out of a job when both companies went defunct, which is why the Invasion was rushed to begin with. And 5. Since we're nitpicking Vince as a booker instead of acknowledging that he actually CAN book and create stars, name 1 star Triple H created

[@Youngcheekyboys]

Vince made crime time talk about that

[@Youngcheekyboys]

All black champions got destroyed by Vince talk about that

[@DanTrustsTheFathersPlan]

Wrestling could be good and I want it to be good but it's not and I'm sure you share the same sentiment.

[@MauiMax]

You know what… I really do like this Triple H era and will after this video but you make very good points I aint even mad. Lol

[@IllaLatiker]

Thank u! Vince is goat, the only one that saw some in Roman

[@Blue4x555]

Prolly the late 90s /2015 fs was lit so much hype fr can’t compare that to nowadays shows..

[@VishalSingh-st5xd]

People complain about late 2010s vince, but always ignore 2020s Vince. The way he handled wwe in lockdown is underrated. In 2021, 22 we got multiple great feuds.

[@rjwright6197]

Ok and we have so many great feuds now

[@DegenerateSharingan]

Yeah I'm not going to lie. I was felt that the years under Vince's later years, specifically the early 2020s, were way much better than, let's say, in Vince in mid-late 2010s

[@KishanDutt-o4q]

2021 under vince was better than anything hhh did since taking over

[@GloGangPromoterr]

@@rjwright6197 really ? Like what ? & don’t say bloodline that was under Vince

[@kumaamahua]

Bro this comparison is unfair. Triple H has only been booking for 1.5 years.

[@Darkside-bv2zh]

Triple H has also been in the business for 40 years and spent 20 of those years learning from Vince. He's been booking matches while being an active competitor himself. That 1.5 year excuse is just a lie for guy whose been doing some booking for Vince since 2004

[@TanvirAhmed-ik4gl]

Gunther The Bo'ring 🥱 General's promo skills & segments are like watching paint dry .

[@sD-fc9mp]

Bro HHH is just 1.5 years in

[@Darkside-bv2zh]

Triple H has also been in the business over 40 years now and he spent 20 of those years learning from Vince. That's not an excuse for a guy that literally has learned about the business for a majority of his adult life

[@sD-fc9mp]

@Darkside-bv2zh sure, but comparing decades of achievements to 2 years isn't realistic

[@Darkside-bv2zh]

@@sD-fc9mp it's not achievements being compared. It's how the storylines got booked and Triple H has enough years of experience to book great storylines but he hasn't produced a great just some that are okay to watch but nothing special. That's the difference between Vince and Triple H.

[@sD-fc9mp]

@Darkside-bv2zh the main focus of this video was to point out how much Stars Vince produced compared to H

[@Darkside-bv2zh]

@@sD-fc9mp that's cj's main focus. My focus is the storyline bookings that made those wrestlers into a star. I didn't see CJ talking about what made Austin into the biggest star wwf had in the 90s and that was the match between him and Bret and the was a Vince storyline that really was unpredictable to see happen or how The Rock became a bigger star after leaving The Corporation after they merged with The Ministry because he became bigger than The Corporation as a whole and Vince's booking of The Rock made him so great Hollywood actually contacted Vince for The Rock for movie roles in the early 2000s. My point is this Triple H was under Vince's tutelage while these great storylines were made so where are the things Vince taught Triple H to book good storylines

[@Marc_Studs]

1:57 As Roman once said, “It didn’t matter if you cheered me. It didn’t matter if you booed me. The only thing that mattered is that you’ve always reacted to me.” It’s true. Especially since HHH became over-obsessed with editing the crowd effect to plain silent on Raw and SmackDown for some reason. For example, when the War Raider’s returned, from FAN FOOTAGE, the reaction was much louder.

[@randallallgood8661]

He's like Tony Khan neither can build a star

[@DoloWrlddd]

"Damien, you did this you did this" bro you got my stomach hurting lol 9:14

[@Bhendrix96]

@1:33…. 90% of the crowd were booing big dog Roman reigns 😂

[@Jessica_Roth]

The most beautiful part was the 2018 Rumble, where Cena gets SMOTHERED in "John Cena sucks!" when he comes out, and when Cena and Roman face off the whole crowd keeps chanting "You both suck!"

[@christian6455]

😂😂 just said this it was legit only woman cheering for this guy because he cute.. He won the guys over after his heel turn.

[@Darkside-bv2zh]

​@@christian6455naw he won you guys over. I've always supported Roman since his FCW days and he's always been a great heel.

[@christian6455]

@@Darkside-bv2zh that great for u

[@bobbygould1960]

Vince is Ultimately better booker than Noseman. Because Vince invented wrestling.

[@Youngjas17]

I can’t believe I’m saying this but I agree with everything cjax is saying this guy knows his stuff he’s always spitting facts I been saying the same thing as well cjax and ur videos bro keep it up ur a fucking legend 😂😂we all appreciate you and also what do you think about raw moving to Netflix do you think it’s worth getting Netflix to watch raw since raw has been always terrible every week ? And also I hope they take the title off of Cody and I wish Roman was still champion to be honest

[@bartenderbarry1589]

Honestly, 1995 - 2015 Vince against 2023 Triple H and 2021 Tony Khan COMBINED

[@westernsellers9148]

Triple h has only been booking for like a year 😂😂 give him time.

[@GloGangPromoterr]

Then don’t say he a better booker then Vince

[@westernsellers9148]

@GloGangPromoterr didn't say. The uploader did 😆 🤣 😂 😹 I'm still a VINNIE MACK guy

[@robchuk4136]

I'm kind of a McMahon guy, so naturally I agree, but I do think it's wildly unfair to compare like a 40 year career to like a 6-month sample size 😅

[@Yattamiir]

So you're just ganna end the video and not say One Love?!?!

[@pitbullsami1741]

cjax and hater both uploaded an hour ago but i rather watch cjax! riiiaaa riaaa HAHAHAHA

[@TanvirAhmed-ik4gl]

Vinnie Mac puts the man in McMahon 👍🏼

[@jasomega2446]

1:26 14:24 16:32 personal note

[@ВасилийИванов-ю3ю]

Vince was The Great. But since MITB 2011 he completely lost his way. At this point of his life he can only shееt on his girlfriend face.

[@jessekurtti37]

“You have to be objective guys” Proceeds to completely abandon objectively immediately upon hitting record loooooool 😂

[@Chloe-jc5ys]

This long term champions bs is hurting the business

[@Oldschool1943]

nope, roman did not have any cheers in his babyface push

[@salim4978]

2014 and 2019 then now

[@faizkhan99945]

There was nothing wrong with him as a face.…Roman was a draw in babyface run when these smarky crowds were booing him the last 5 years. It’s the same thing with Goldberg…these dudes complain about Goldberg yet WWE still brings him back…why?…because the CASUAL fans still like him. Same shit with Roman…casual fans always loved him but the smarky fans who think Kenny Omega is the best in the world are the ones that disliked him

[@salim4978]

@ they wanted Bryan to win the rumble so badly so they boo Batista for no reason as if he wasn’t booked to win and they booed the crap out of Rey then 2015 the same crap they boo Roman and rock just for Bryan

[@faizkhan99945]

@@salim4978 2014 is when the smarks era started. These guys hijack shows with ‘YES! YES!’, ‘CM PUNK!’ chants and send death threats to Vince. WWE has been catering to these people since the summer of 2013 when Daniel's push started. Daniel getting that push and winning at WrestleMania 30 started the out of the mainstream decline for WWE. Daniel’s ‘success’ empowered smarks to demand champions they favor and hating on others like Batista, Roman, Lesnar and Goldberg . Meanwhile, HHH keeps signing these indy darlings, flooding the main roster with them, because Daniel’s success led to a wave of similar wrestlers like him getting signed and getting opportunities.. Because of all this, WWE pushed their casual mainstream audience to the side and viewership has dropped since then. And it’s been crap since 2014

[@Oldschool1943]

@@salim4978 now he's a heel that gets cheered (tribal chef) vs then (the big dog) he was a forced babyface that nobody liked that Vince tried to push as john cena's replacement as the next top guy but roman couldn't talk on the mic, in the royal rumble wwe even tried to get the rock to get ppl to cheer for roman and the boos grew even louder u can't rewrite history when there's video footage including the coverage from at that time. so nice try

[@TheKennyonTOP]

Waaaaay better by far 1. Promos are 🔥🔥🔥 2. Character build up 🔥🔥🔥 3. Storylines makes sense 4. VKM era stars look like stars, look like bodybuilders, looks like athletes, not Starbucks workers 5. Transition from the ring, to Hollywood, UFC, NFL, music, even hostong your own podcast like Pat McAfee and Logan Paul, but in HHH era nobody can leave the wrestling bubble. 6. We actually enjoyed bra and panties matches, NOBODY wants to see macho women 7. Nobody cares about long term storytelling. 8. Long term storytelling can ONLY work when you ACTUALLY have stars to book on tv with interesting storylines long term. HHH era has no stars 9. VKM era he always tried ro do something different, HHH just piggybacking off VKM idea but making it cringe 10. The title doesn't make the man, the man makes the title... In HHH era the title is valueless nobody wants to be a champ nor carry themselves like champs.

[@idontevenknow741]

Man woke up and chose to speak nothing but facts. A lot of the shit you say is how I feel and you actually respect wwe in the early and mid 2010s and actually see the good things about it and not just shit on it. I have so much respect for you

[@brandonbates9259]

The irony in everything you just said , smh

[@lxfj2128]

Vince was early on was a good booker after 2017 it was a mess and unwatchable for the most part. For example fiend will be built up for Goldberg to come squash him . Brock Lesnar sometimes wouldn't even show up for3 months and he was the champion so most of the superstars were fighting for nothing. Reings Lesnar wrestlemania was so bad the fans booed. So lets not pretend Vince post 2012 wasn't garbage. Some pg era years like 2012 and 11 was horrible too

[@michaelfrazier629]

Triple h is such a shell of his former self. It's hard to even believe he was around during the attitude era considering how much of a mark he is

[@Supreme_Cipher]

He's old with health problems. Cut him some slack.

[@bobbykushington]

I thought they were gonna start a feud between Tiffany Stratton and Liv Morgan but instead they keep having Liv feud with Rhea because they have nothing else for Rhea to do.

[@nkarchaic]

As much as a lot of what you're saying is true, we also have to blame Vince for HHH having this role in the first place. At the end of the day, HHH only has the job because Vince is his father in law, and HHH would never have that role if Vince didn't initially okay it. So we can't keep Vince off the hook simply because it's convenient to do so. What did Vince see in HHH that made him think he'd be a great booker? Ultimately, Vince is a narcissist and HHH spent his entire career getting his approval. Long story short, this is still Vince's fault lol.

[@CRIT-MAN-5x]

Prime Vince was definitely better, but I do think WWE is now better off with Triple H now. I think it was a change for the better. We did get some really good stuff from mid 2022 - early 2023. It fell off HARD now, I'll agree, but I think it's gonna pick up on the road to wrestlemania.

[@brandonbates9259]

It didn't even fall off hard lol it cooled of some for sure ..but you telling me the stuff with KO, Orton,Cody isn't good right now?? Gunther going through this mental struggle isn't interesting?? Solo's character isn't a lot better now compared to what he was during the summer?? LA knights title reign is picking up each week, the IC title scene is really good

[@brandonbates9259]

And for all the complaining abt how Bianca isn't being pushed in the women's title scene.Her and Jade have become the strongest most consistently booked women's tag champs ever outside of Damage control..

[@brandonbates9259]

Oh and how about the New day storyline?? Then you got this thing with the Wyatt's,Miz, and Final testament

[@brandonbates9259]

The problem is folks only like to focus on what's wrong but never like to talk about what's actually good

[@YaoMing-k5x]

Rumours that Royal Rumble 2025 will be the greatest of all time with rumoured participants being: 1. John Cena 2. Undertaker (Rock gets WM 40 payback) 3. Golberg 4. Lesnar 5. The Rock 6. CM Punk 7. Zila Fatu 8. Alberto Del Rio 9. Randy Orton 10. Jeff & Matt Hardy 11. Stone Cold Steve Austin 12. Kurt Angle (Cena, Chad Gable Moment) 13. Mick Foley 14. Batista

[@marmiteplayz215]

I don’t think blud is telling the truth😭😭🙏

[@makenzi1153]

The chance of that: Cena - Yes Undertaker - No Goldberg - Could be possible Lesnar - Also possible but doubt it The Rock - 90% chance CM Punk - Yes Zilla Fatu - No Del Rio - No Randy Orton - Yes Hardy's - No Stone Cold - No Kurt Angle - No Mick Foley - Absolutely no Batista - No

[@rudeboy583]

Only wrestler triple h developed waa gunther and he boring under vince he was set for a burial

[@Supreme_Cipher]

Gunther was going to be a big star under Vince. He was going to get the foreign dictator gimmick. It would've worked just like it did for Rusev.

[@pirate8085]

Bloodline story is not triple h its paul Heyman

[@insupportofjunhado]

Nobody's done more damage to professional wrestling than Vincent K McMahon. There were thirty nine viable professional wrestling companies in the 48 states, now there is only one viable company and one billionaire floated company that spends too much money. These thirty nine companies were not perfect, mistakes were made, but this situation was deliberately created by Vince McMahon, and it was done underhandedly. WWF had an inferior product. Mid South Wrestling had the highest rated show on cable. WWF tanked the ratings when it took Jim Crocket's spot on television. The Georgia territory regularly outdrew New York's by sheer repeated audience despite covering far less ground. The WWF intimidated, arenas into exclusivity, it intimidated networks, it went after magazines, Vince Junior broke handshake deals with other promoters and undermined them by breaking kayfabe in failed bids to lower his operational costs. It's bad enough he destroyed the USA's professional wrestling business but he also raided Canada and then screwed Stampede over a spot show. NWA faced several anti trust lawsuits, because it WAS a giant 39 company+ trust. But you know what's worse than a 39+ company trust? A one company monopoly! Yet WWF has somehow been allowed to get away with what it did while NWA left breakaways AWA and WWWF alone to avoid anti trust litigation(which was a good thing). But Vince McMahon was better than Triple H? Yeah, fuck Vince K and fuck WWF/E! WWF has done some good things in spite of itself, bringing in great talent from other areas, getting some great athletes from amateur wrestling and other sports, but Vince Junior was so determined to not shoot WWE like a sports show it was insulting. WWECW had Zach Ryder undergo a supposed on camera "imagine spot" like it was a goddam live action cartoon! The invisible camera bullshit where wrestlers constantly revealed their secrets for all the fans on the jumbo tron to see just wouldn't stop. He literally dumped slime and shit in the ring. Maybe it wasn't literally human shit, but he wanted audience to believe it was, so why should anyone watching respect Vince Junior's shat in ring? He had topless eighty year old women in fake breast prosthetics designed to make their chests look more disgusting, one of which "gave birth" to a hand! He ran incest angles in which world's strongest man Mark Henry admitted to sleeping with his sister. Truly exemplarily use of such an athlete! He's had goddam miscarriage angles, handgun home invasions, had wrestlers sell magots being projected on the ring, a necrophilia angle, which Triple H was involved in and defended by the way. So is Vince McMahon better than Triple H? Yeah maybe, so what? Fuck WWE! No one has done more damage to professional wrestling as a business. Not Megane Super, not Tiger Mask, not Jack Pfeffer, not Jim Crockett, not Herb Abrams, not even Tony Khan. Maybe if one gets esoteric and argues for something like the India-Pakistan split destroying professional wrestling in one of the most populous areas of the world Vince Junior can be said to have some competition, but at least that wasn't an intentional attack on professional wrestling, just some changing socioeconomics wrestling couldn't adapt to.

[@JuanTomlinson472]

Show me a Barbie doll where is Vince McMahon touched you😂😂 ain't nobody about to read all that

[@dsavv2260]

THE BOOKER T AND HHH FEUD thats all im going to say

[@izzydoesrandomthings2949]

All this really shows me is WWE needs more, or better writers. A lot of this stuff is very valid, but there's a clear drop-off in terms of writing quality once the late 2010's hit. Having good writers will make good stars, the talent is there, for wrestling and mic skills on this current roster, with the right instincts in writing (knowing when to trust the superstar and their ideas, knowing how to improve their ideas when you see improvements, and knowing how to present those ideas convincingly) the product would be drastically better. Promos would repeat less, and their characters can be more sustainable in storylines. I agree with you that triple H is struggling to build people up properly, The same few stars are involved with most storylines but, that being fixed will only partially solve the problem. I think there's too many issues for one guy to change, neither Vince nor Triple H solved the greater problems overall, which is why everything seemed so much better in the past, despite matches arguably being better. The wrestling talent is there, the writing talent is not.

[@tinotendamandizvidza1903]

Overall vince is better especially only in his earlier years

[@dilipkrishnan1545]

Hey u , WWE is in a mode of a storyline wherein he wants everyone to get their chance even if it's a small segment

[@terrellhatch8191]

One thing and one thing only makes Vince way better than Triple H is Vince actually made stars. Triple hasn’t created any stars.

[@kingj6585]

Disagree bro. Vince and HHH told Ryback there will never be a star bigger than the WWE ever again hence why Roman was only pushed under Vince and HHH. HHH booking is more consistent than Vince who was doing fan hate booking before he left. Under Vince story telling was inconsistent and viewership was in the 500k range don’t forget that

[@devinport.]

As time will keep moving forward people will finally realise the brilliance of vinny mac

[@hinemoaveatufunga2345]

apparently raw got 20% less viewership this past month

[@souldrum86]

Bro, you're 1000% correct! You speaking my language

[@lashleyrandy]

Vince is a legend

[@TheeIdol]

Everything entertaining is buried like Elias Ezekiel Corbin Boogz madcap Moss Theory Lashley Omos. Yet everything that sucks like Gargarno gets pushed

[@master-of-mind5881]

All of you who are criticising Paul Levevque are hypocrites because if Vince was still in charge you’d all still be complaining. Get over yourselves. Fickle wrestling fans. 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@kobeisgoated29]

I agreed

[@iamlougotti]

I think a great video idea should be how lame and useless the general managers are nowadays. It’s not anonymous GM bad but it’s not too far off

[@pjd6895]

The US and IC title have been having better stories and champions than the wwe and world heavyweight champion

[@eddywashere3391]

lbh if Vince had never bought the Company from his Dad in 82 the WWE or wrestling in general would have died out decades ago but ever since the WWE went PG in 2008 Vince was never the same and after the modern brand split in 2016 Vince has completely lost his touch with wrestling all together. As much as you guys despise big nose Paul unfortunately I'm a Paul Leveque guy because He's definitely better as head of creative than Vince (2016-2021, 2023)

[@f7or1n]

How to save WWE, Triple H turns heel and becomes an evil CEO and the enemy of Cody Rhodes. Cody faces who Triple H sends after him, that would be cool to watch.

[@DannyTruthMagnified]

Yeah. Instantly makes Cody somewhat interesting and gives us a true heel to hate. Triple H won't do it though. He killed Dominick Mysterio's massive heel heat with his bad booking and he is killing Gunther's, as well. He does not know how to book interesting stars.

[@israeloagiledintlhe4166]

The authority figure angle is worn out, the audience has become desensitized to it, and the reason why it peaked in the late 90s is because at the time there was at least 50% of the audience that didn't know whether wrestling was real or fake, and hence why the NWO angle worked like a charm 🤷🏾‍♂️, you can't pull that off in the modern era cause everybody knows everything 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@theonlygoodonehere2259]

basically a copy and paste of austin vs mcmahon storyline, I guess, but cody isn't believable enough to have obstacles lined up against him and overcoming them, but still preferable over 2015-2019 roman

[@f7or1n]

@@theonlygoodonehere2259anything but what they do now with him, as long as we have a title defense per month thats all that matters

[@theonlygoodonehere2259]

@@f7or1n I mean yes, that would be better than what they are doing with him now, still think it would be kinda boring though

[@bluebone1116]

My biggest gripe is seeing the perfect time to end these storylines is pushed to summerslam or royal rumble or WrestleMania instead of using the true hottest moment. People say let Papa H cook but the guy's overcooking or undercooking😭that and its all so freaking PREDICTABLE

[@TheNightTyrant]

Eric Bishoff >>> Both Combined.

[@skymanxd6366]

This just makes me get worried about Cenas final year not being booked correctly

[@lebron2x_]

You complain about weekly shows as if Vince was the head of the worst era of raw and smackdown😂😂😂

[@LilsedGaming-w4z]

Triple H brought back moat of these people when Vincent fired them soo what u mean

[@SihleNanto]

The funny thing is that the only time I watch raw or smackdown is when I react to Cjax's videos😂

[@marmiteplayz215]

Which is why you should watch them to gain your OWN opinions

[@brandonbates9259]

​@@marmiteplayz215That's the problem lol and it makes sense with these comments they don't even watch..They just blindly taking his word for it and he's not completely wrong and he's not completely right either