5 Minutes with GM Ben Finegold: Ding vs Gukesh, Game 12

[@chessanthemum]

23 minutes with Ben!

[@MislavIvkovic-sx8vd]

Gukesh won beautyfool game yesterday with Benoni now he could Still play this but he enter in Catalan opening against 2 best catalan player in the World he was just overconfident you are not Fisher so you can beat Taimanov in Taimanov sicilian😂😂😂😂

[@MislavIvkovic-sx8vd]

Gukesh won beautyfool game yesterday with Benoni now he could Still play this but he enter in Catalan opening against 2 best catalan player in the World he was just overconfident you are not Fisher so you can beat Taimanov in Taimanov sicilian😂😂😂😂

[@answeris4217]

Fun fact.... He is ben.

[@lionizedjunkie]

​@@MislavIvkovic-sx8vd Just one question... what?

[@norestforthezombies]

Great recap, you made it into a really captivating narrative with the D4 push as a theme. Thanks Ben!

[@MrCheeze]

Yeah, this was really easy to follow as someone who doesn't know anything about anything. Also about the game itself, love that there were no real mistakes, just outplaying from start to finish.

[@williammorris584]

I thought his first name is Grandmaster, and Ben is his middle name 😄

[@AndrejAbabovic]

The last 5 minutes of this was easily some of the best content from Ben. I'm in tears. "This is a World Championship match, this isn't a simul between a beginner. These variations can't happened."

[@tomeknaj]

@@AndrejAbabovic this reminds me when back in St. Louis he showed some prodigy's game against Abrahamyan and was like "oof, this is double, triple, quadruple checkmate… if you're under 18, close your eyes, this is, uhh, this is not for children!"

[@JairTrejo]

They are not allowed!

[@jonnmostovoy2406]

Yup!

[@f.d.3289]

ahhh, that's why it's called 5 minutes with Ben XD

[@willrhee]

Thanks!

[@pelicans123]

my guy is back to give an absolute beatdown. Ding just needed a bit of motivation so he had to lose yesterday to get himself psyched up.

[@stephenarrigo5679]

"CUT" Love Ben's dry sense of humor!!

[@ShiraoriAteU]

23 minutes and 34 seconds with GM Ben Finegold is my fav show on the youtube

[@gidifihrer3966]

This is a World Championship match, this isn't a simul between a beginner. These variations can't happen. Amazing

[@Eglaronion]

Nobody makes as easily digestable recaps of the highest level chess then Grandmaster Ben Finegold. Go Ben!

[@PhildoBaggins]

"If I was black, it wouldn't be good" - Ben

[@unclvinny]

I was so Reti for this one!

[@JustAManFromThePast]

How did Ben know I'd have it on 2x speed and be done in 12 min and 40 sec?!

[@cfirmdotpy]

Watch GM Finegold analysis always worth it. Already saw other 5 videos about round 12 and none of them show the Re5 line

[@paeturis]

It's really amazing how you fit such a complex game with a detailed GM-level analysis into a 5 minute video

[@angrygary91298]

Ben I love you this are not 5 minutes you are lying to me.The truth hurts.

[@philipsaoud244]

The set of, "5 minutes with Ben", is contained within the set of, "23 minutes with Ben".

[@Evilanious]

The truth soothes! More Ben!

[@angrygary91298]

@@philipsaoud244 I love your set theory comprehension are you math passionate?

[@StoshGalumpke]

That's a lot of content for just 5 minutes ... and well worth the watch ...

[@TheMessianicFeast]

Love the way you explain things, thank you!!

[@blueelephant4971]

I like the way you really explain the ideas and don't just spew out endless computer variations.

[@chessbrahh2068]

This was a great game and great recap!

[@tarnumj7319]

never play f6!

[@shiro1744]

Well we know who lost the game now

[@phdcmd]

Ben's recaps are the best. Got team Ben

[@jonnmostovoy2406]

I'm so happy, thank you for this!

[@JojenReed]

Heating up! Great recap as usual Ben

[@erikfurudi975]

I hope Ding will win, when he is focusing and plays his best chess he's worthy of his title And even if Gukesh loses, India will have a lot of young super strong GMs that are going to have a pretty high ranking for a while

[@MrGaryStaples]

@15:56 in the press conference Ding said he didn’t see knight a7. Maybe because he wasn’t concerned about the confined rook, but regardless he said he didn’t even consider it.

[@joebloggs396]

He didn't need to look at that line, I think that's what he meant.

[@lasshrugged]

Yeah, that rook is almost completely irrelevant to the position.

[@bertdaniel1449]

Thanks Ben. I’d to hear your pick for the playoff. Have a great trip to Michigan

[@unclelarry3207]

Great job Ben. Enjoyed it very much.

[@mrpizza6503]

NEVER PLAY F6

[@ebk0]

Amazing recap, Ben is the best. I literally laughed at loud when he said, "Then we throw in Bd6+ because we're masochists."

[@ordro107]

Whatever happens in the end, Ding Liren is officially a legend, this game brought repressed memory of him grilling Nepo 4 times from a 'behind in the match' position. In equally spectacular positional squeeze masterclass with tactical finish.

[@f.d.3289]

Daaamn, Ding really made Gukesh look like an amateur here. I find it super weird that Gukesh obviously prepared that opening but didn't realize that his position may be theoretically and numerically equal, but White really has the much easier game. And I just love how Ding just made these tiny improvements and waited until Gukesh lost patience. Great game, and great recap too :D

[@RBG9000]

Brutal game! Gukesh getting blown off the board like a beginner. Outclassed!!

[@NguyenPham-ru6nc]

best recap ive seen of this game :D

[@MrGaryStaples]

@21:08 “Probably resigns is better”

[@thedededeity888]

My wife was annoyed at how loudly I laughed at that

[@earlytuber9416]

Great game and great recap!

[@johnnyzee383]

Does does remind anyone who has watched the game of Capablanca?...Ding played just like Capa would have...a brilliant positional masterpiece where until the end was devoid of tactics just piece maneuvering and building the position and getting your pieces into their best squares and denying the opponent any good piece squares/mobility and then striking with the decisive blow.

[@douglaslarosa8782]

Finally Ding woke up! A slow yet unstoppable gain of momentum with a loud crash in black's camp. Thanks for the recap, Ben!

[@h0wnr681]

What an amazing game. One thought I have (pretty good for me to have one) was that Nc6 in the opening turned out to be kind of bad. I always prefer to strike out with the c pawn, especially as black, and in this game the c pawn and knight on c6 were kind of a problem the entire game. After Kh2 it was so hard to find a move, really a curious game here.

[@f.d.3289]

5 minutes of Ben explaining why Black played Rb8 without me anderstanding any of it... go Ben!

[@answeris4217]

Ding was saving this for if his back was against the wall... wonder if he has another one lined up... And I also wonder if Gukesh has another ultra weird opening that gives a fighting position.

[@alicemystery5332]

another great recap!

[@andsviat]

Oh my god. This already becomes a meme))) Good job Ben. Thank you for the recap.

[@zamicczsmicc7464]

What an incredible game

[@fabian13333]

This was good

[@dontuwear]

Ben, please don't die!! Stay there

[@Rubrickety]

I wonder if Ding being written off by everyone before the match took some pressure off and let him relax a bit. He’s really risen to the occasion.

[@danielszczypka6977]

This game was accually good and interesting.

[@nobuharu2336]

Rawr!

[@SahnigReingeloetet]

Wow Ding really just gave Gukesh the smackdown

[@jeremyhuffman101]

I love how you say "cut!" and the editor just ignores you.

[@AG-ld6rv]

Go Ding! As in, get out of the WC hall of fame. Kasparov has said this isn't even a real world championship before it began since Magnus is not competing. Kramnik has cried on his Twitter that the game 11 blunder was unlike ANY WC blunder he has ever seen (to which Giri replied about a blunder in a Steinitz WC match). OK, I feel bad now, because Ding seems like a good guy. At least Gukesh seems rather humble as well. Hopefully, Ding gets his old rank back if he cares to do so. He had some very nice opening prep for this match and, in some cases, calculated very well. I think the old Ding would have won with 2 or 3 decisive games.

[@Doodloper]

Ding: "Game 12 speaks for itself"

[@lolohlinoh8137]

I had watch some analysis, but i still don't get which moves that started to make the black whole position to be so bad at the end.

[@nebojsagolubovic8565]

Ding returned from the dead in this series.

[@isaakcarmona1541]

Nice cut! Also, fries.

[@elpollolocoman119]

I was hoping for a kings side attack like how Morphy did back in the days, we don't find many players taking advantage of completely winning positions like he did. Though people act like his moves were elementary, if so then why are they hard to find in such positions?

[@TheRealMortyII]

Hi Ben!!

[@elpollolocoman119]

That last line is what I would have done. Treat it like a simo match.

[@millennialprofessional4877]

At the end of that game Gukesh knew what it’s like when God has a gun.

[@leorwolf]

23:34 it must be chanukah

[@panpan-vz3om]

I watch only the last 5 minutes of 5 minutes with Ben that is 23 minutes long.

[@pi5tolpete989]

Bens disgust in blacks position cracked me up

[@Dandencreux]

Dear Ben, I believe this Ding-Gukesh matchup knocked you out, which is why you stopped at round 12.

[@kmarasin]

Pressure getting to the teenager. The WC is in his grasp and he only needs three draws! Play for a draw and you'll lose though. I don't want to say that Gukesh is too young to have learned this lesson, but this was a game where Ding's experience in a scrap told. Gukesh seems to have regressed to technique from younger days. The problem with black's play right from the start is that it lacks a clear plan. Black's pieces may be on good squares, but without a plan those good squares become redundant squares, then bad squares. I've never liked the kind of classical development plan that black used because of this. Positional masterpiece by Ding. Always thought that was his best strength.

[@coyotewayfarer4380]

Ding chose the English because it's EXPLOSIVE.

[@PlanXV]

The commutators fought that black was better 😅 then Ding The Ring showed them the way of the Dragon 🐉 😅

[@MarcusLanceConcina]

Ding Liren will win the whole thing, I want to believe

[@lukacalov1988]

Well Gukesh played f6 so theres that

[@matteopriotto5131]

To be fair, he also sacrificed the exchange with Nb8

[@philcolbert7864]

You can't play for a draw, you end up being too cautious

[@aarrodri]

Where 5 minutes!?

[@kh3777]

Black's queen does not have any good squares to choose from throughout the game 😮

[@anosmianAcrimony]

What a massacre!

[@BbbB-dm2xg]

Ben now lasts longer than five minutes.

[@aliciap6329]

No one makes obvious mistake and they calmly improve their positions. Looks like a GM game.

[@JM-db8ez]

5 minutes? Doesn't take a chess GM to figure out the oddity in this video title. Alright, I'll watch the first 5 minutes, apparently that's all that matters.

[@RonyTomo69]

PLAYOFFS!!?!?!?!?!? PLAYOFFS?!?!?!?!

[@mercylessplayer]

potentially

[@darryljones7603]

❤

[@dalicherif]

5 minutes !!!!!

[@gorhemdanqze8635]

Day 3 of telling ben he does not know how long 5min last

Bishop to e7 or e2 is never a new idea. That's as basic as chess can get.

[@Demian_R]

Never play

[@jogzyg2036]

All these extra minutes are getting out of hand

[@JimmyDaGent796]

This was an excellent Game 11(Cut)..I mean Game 12. Finally an exciting and aggressive game. You can be accurate and aggressive, or you can tank like Gukesh when he doesnt know 75 lines of theory! India is going downhill quick baby! Chinese Communist Party making an amazing comeback!!

[@robsafari5927]

Nice recap. But aren't you annoyed that all your fields, white resp. black, are exact copies? It feels like a plastic board?! I had this in my CB programs. I did complain at Chessbase. 'What's the problem?' (Well, when I buy a white car I don't weant a red one, even when it is technically the same. Looks matter.) It took a while, before in the newest update they finally provided 'random' looking bitmaps (but not yet for all programs..).

[@nikiyen6]

5 minutes = LIES

[@Deucely]

Why tho, just why. Gukesh is playing agresively for a draw, so he plays a variation where he can't trade anything, can't move, is forced to wait for a full force attack and just gets smoked, are you serious. Plus now we're going to have boring games the last two games. Oh well, looking forward to the rapid games.

[@kmarasin]

The d4 line in the Neo-Catalan IS an aggressive line. The problem was that the follow-up play wasn't equally aggressive. I think whoever put together Gukesh's prep had this in the bag to play for a draw, but Gukesh took it too literally, expecting one of the two outcomes Ben explained. If a choice like that is really a choice, then there has to be a penalty for not choosing. If white is gonna wait on d4 to improve his position, black has to work to make d4 impossible. Pile up on the d-file, play Nd4, c5, that sort of thing. Instead Gukesh played passively.

[@richarddecredico6098]

ugly chess for a WC

[@danielszczypka6977]

Tricks are for kids - so Indian guy doesn't like slow strategic chess? Colle system next?

[@14-Peaks]

23 minutes with Ben!

[@mcronrn]

Rawr!