Undercover Carlsen SHOCKS Grandmaster in Legendary chess game

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Blitz Breakdown Chess

Blitz Breakdown Chess

7 ай бұрын

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@blitzbreakdownchess
@blitzbreakdownchess 7 ай бұрын
Hey Everyone! Here's the only response I could find from Jan Gustafsson regarding this game for those interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6jJpZpvnbefqcU
@dionlindsay2
@dionlindsay2 5 ай бұрын
Thanks - well spotted!
@s1dew1nd3r4
@s1dew1nd3r4 3 ай бұрын
how come he resigned at that point though? he could have fought on surely?
@Angrypickle5
@Angrypickle5 3 ай бұрын
​@@s1dew1nd3r4he was down too much material at that point and his position wouldn't be any better once the two rooks came out. No way he would've even managed a draw.
@TheRealPaul_Morphy
@TheRealPaul_Morphy 3 ай бұрын
Could you do this kind of breakdown video for game 12 in the last world championship? Ding VS Nepomniachtchi
@royltbescheidenblake6187
@royltbescheidenblake6187 3 ай бұрын
​@@Angrypickle5sometimes you just have to know when youre beaten , but i hear what youre saying at the same time
@GBD1224
@GBD1224 7 ай бұрын
I personally, have never lost to Magnus so can’t relate
@blitzbreakdownchess
@blitzbreakdownchess 7 ай бұрын
Lol 😂
@coastalcraftsmen9155
@coastalcraftsmen9155 7 ай бұрын
That’s the best comment on here!
@cornedenecker1636
@cornedenecker1636 7 ай бұрын
I've beaten Magnus actually, we played checkers last week and I literally wrecked him.
@Twlz_09
@Twlz_09 7 ай бұрын
​@@cornedenecker1636wait till you find out checkers is a solved game
@seanscrambledeggs3291
@seanscrambledeggs3291 7 ай бұрын
@@cornedenecker1636ok sure bro
@jamescomstock7299
@jamescomstock7299 7 ай бұрын
I thought Gustaffson's response to what must have been a very frustrating game was very professional, and I ended up with much more respect for him as a person after this video. I find behavior like his in this situation inspiring, so kudos to him.
@an18yearoldmongolianguy
@an18yearoldmongolianguy 7 ай бұрын
Yep, I see how lots of GMs let their ego get the better of them and become super passive aggressive or develop some sort of vendetta against their opponents after losing - and it happens often especially when they lose to IMs and lower Maybe Gustaffson was holding his tongue here, but overall he seems like a very chill guy from his response
@youngdonald4109
@youngdonald4109 7 ай бұрын
did you not like him before?
@burt591
@burt591 7 ай бұрын
@@an18yearoldmongolianguy It's not always an ego thing, it's most likely that if they see their opponent doing moves way above their level they start to suspect that something fishy is going on, and they can also feel when something is weird on the style of play and the speed. Here he was clearly suspecting something weird was going on, but was extremely polite about it (probably he knows the guy personally). And his instincts where on point, there WAS something fishy going on, except in this case the "engine" was Magnus Carlsen
@JosefZeethuven
@JosefZeethuven 7 ай бұрын
@@an18yearoldmongolianguy Its not ego when you lose to a 200 points lower rated player. Most likely its a fluke or hes breaking fair play rules
@tor13128
@tor13128 7 ай бұрын
This just demonstrates how the GM circle can't publicly talk about cheaters, which Magnus said during the Hans scandal. Hans was basically Soloman x10 in the GM circle and none of them could speak about it (in public) even though they wanted to. Gustaffson demonstrated it clearly here that even though it makes no sense, they can't say the "cheat" word and have to substitute it, at least on camera or in public.
@CodeBank-rw9bq
@CodeBank-rw9bq 7 ай бұрын
"Either he is biggest genius in the world or this is weird"
@aadarshagrawal2197
@aadarshagrawal2197 7 ай бұрын
Weirdness can be either way genuineness or stupidity. Choosing to get wierd is hard as this line that seperates is not so firm.
@superflink
@superflink 7 ай бұрын
​@@aadarshagrawal2197 I think all the times he said "weird" or something like it he really wanted to say it wasn't human moves, but he's cautious and polite to acuse his opponent of cheating by using engines.
@peterkirk8510
@peterkirk8510 7 ай бұрын
@@superflinkpublicly accusing a titled player of cheating on their main account for 1 game on a “banterthon” would be ridiculous
@superflink
@superflink 7 ай бұрын
​@@peterkirk8510 You're right, its not politeness or caution, its respect. But I can bet he thought the other player was cheating... 😅
@Chunda8
@Chunda8 7 ай бұрын
He began to suspect something was up right away. I was like jeez Magnus, the Dutch? At least he didn't Bongcloud, but that would've been a giveaway. I'd work on my Vienna as White vs. Jan, and either my Caro or a Sicilian as Black. If it means anything, he'd crush me even faster, I'd be happy to get into a decent Middlegame vs. Gustaffson. I think he is one of Germany's strongest GMs, apparently he was mowing people down as a kid, U20 champion.
@kristoferkrus
@kristoferkrus 3 ай бұрын
"I shouldn't be playing chess; it's just humiliating" 😂
@xiamlegend4421
@xiamlegend4421 Ай бұрын
i believe every chess player has at least thought that once in their life
@jeffreyknapp945
@jeffreyknapp945 Ай бұрын
@@xiamlegend4421 Not Magnus LOL
@AlTarif
@AlTarif Ай бұрын
I think this nearly every game I play.
@hcnuup
@hcnuup 7 ай бұрын
I love how Gustaffson correctly identified who he was playing against.
@dmn257
@dmn257 7 ай бұрын
Well jan was in his coaching staff for a while so he knows him pretty well
@goku445
@goku445 6 ай бұрын
@@dmn257 Yet he couldn't imagine it was Magnus.
@anotherelvis
@anotherelvis 4 ай бұрын
In the original video Magnus has a Norwegian flag next to his name.
@vibovitold
@vibovitold 4 ай бұрын
@@dmn257 well, this game was played before he joined Carlsen's team. but i think Gustaffson may have known about the prank all along (he was the co-founder of chess24, and it's great viral promotion for the website). at the very least, the thought would certainly have crossed his mind - it's a Norwegian account after all; playing oddball openings in blitz is practically a trademark of Carlsen, etc. - he just refrains from saying it out loud.
@88mphDrBrown
@88mphDrBrown 4 ай бұрын
It was an accidental identification, he was using coded language to insinuate that he was playing against an engine. That's what he definitely thought was actually happening.
@Nahrix
@Nahrix 7 ай бұрын
I wish we could see his reaction to the prank! He handled the unfair match with so much self control that he's one of my new favorite chess players.
@markrobertson3054
@markrobertson3054 5 ай бұрын
Unfair?
@Mr.Anderson__
@Mr.Anderson__ 5 ай бұрын
​@markrobertson3054 thinking you are playing an IM when you are in reality playing one of the best chess players in the world is indeed unfair.
@hgates
@hgates 4 ай бұрын
not really they’re both gms who are in the top 1 percent of players, by your logic him playing against the IM would be unfair…
@jmedlin81
@jmedlin81 4 ай бұрын
Magnus wasn't using his real name. No fault to him for having some fun, but of course a *bit* unfair to his opponent@@hgates
@hgates
@hgates 4 ай бұрын
@@jmedlin81 Are u insinuating that he played less serious moves because he didn’t respect the IM?
@jagtrycktefel
@jagtrycktefel 7 ай бұрын
Shows what a difference there is between Grandmasters. I've played against Jan two times and I felt what he felt against Magnus.
@timmyotoole6063
@timmyotoole6063 7 ай бұрын
are you a GM?
@jagtrycktefel
@jagtrycktefel 7 ай бұрын
@@timmyotoole6063 Not even close :)
@INVALIDZEROTheTitSucker69
@INVALIDZEROTheTitSucker69 7 ай бұрын
​@@timmyotoole6063exactly what I thought of asking.
@adamkarr3218
@adamkarr3218 7 ай бұрын
so that makes no sense@@jagtrycktefel
@aviary__
@aviary__ 7 ай бұрын
@@adamkarr3218 It does though.
@mogyorospusztai
@mogyorospusztai 7 ай бұрын
This was true sportsmanship. He hinted that the opponent is very suspicious of using AI assistance but never opanly accused him and took the loss like a true champ.
@GeekProdigyGuy
@GeekProdigyGuy 7 ай бұрын
think he was pretty legit confused tho because he probably wouldn't suspect an actual pro he respects to cheat like that (he made the comment "shouldn't you be sleeping to prepare for your national championship")
@GeekProdigyGuy
@GeekProdigyGuy 7 ай бұрын
maybe he was even thinking of conspiracy theories like the account got hacked and the hacker was trolling by cheating on the account! lol
@thirteen26
@thirteen26 7 ай бұрын
He thought he was playing against an IM, so when his supposedly weaker opponent blitzed out moves he didn't understand while outplaying him, he said "Either he's the biggest genius in the world or this is weird" which can be translated as "I'm either playing against Magnus Carlsen or an engine" hahahaha
@Lgg130
@Lgg130 7 ай бұрын
​@@GeekProdigyGuythat's not what conspiracy theory means
@oguztokat821
@oguztokat821 7 ай бұрын
Everyone is wrong Here. The reason Why This is so Strange for him is Not bc he thinks Its an Engine. Its because the Moves Are blitzed out. So he knows Its Most likely no Engine. Thats Why hes so confused
@BlagomirDao
@BlagomirDao 7 ай бұрын
Gustaffsson gave me a feeling of nostalgia, like it's the 1970s and I'm seeing it on TV.
@mathildewesendonck7225
@mathildewesendonck7225 7 ай бұрын
Jan is the national team coach of the Germans. We love him! He is also a talented comedian
@zackmaurers7475
@zackmaurers7475 6 ай бұрын
And he also is very inspired by one of the biggest podcasts in Germany, called "Lanz und Precht".
@toSirius
@toSirius 5 ай бұрын
lol
@anotherelvis
@anotherelvis 4 ай бұрын
He was a great commentator at chess24.
@terrobert
@terrobert 18 күн бұрын
He's a comedian??? I thought you said he was German.
@Skyl3t0n
@Skyl3t0n 11 күн бұрын
@@terrobert Pls be a bit more serious. German humor and Jans comedy are no laughing matter
@leerobbo92
@leerobbo92 7 ай бұрын
Jan comments on the Dutch not just because you don't see it at the highest level, but because Jan has a running gag on his streams that he absolutely hates the opening and is convinced that it's unusable generally. Which is made even funnier in this context, because he is basically the first name in Carlsen's team for his World Championship matches!
@blitzbreakdownchess
@blitzbreakdownchess 7 ай бұрын
Ahh I didn’t know that. I just figured he was saying that because the Dutch is pretty dubious. Interesting 🧐
@mathildewesendonck7225
@mathildewesendonck7225 7 ай бұрын
I saw an interview with two grandmasters a while ago (can’t remember who it was). They mentioned Jan as one of the top 10 opening experts in the world
@karimsonsafehold9233
@karimsonsafehold9233 7 ай бұрын
Magnus uses an opening he knows jan is unfamiliar with. To win on time.
@lma5508
@lma5508 2 ай бұрын
What u mean first name
@leerobbo92
@leerobbo92 2 ай бұрын
@@lma5508 Jan's a world-leading openings expert. Carlsen has used him on his team for many world championships, and he's often the highest rated person on that team.
@TravelingDeer
@TravelingDeer 5 ай бұрын
I like how Gustafson never says "cheater" oder "stockfish"... he is so diplomatic
@insertphrasehere15
@insertphrasehere15 4 ай бұрын
Well, he is genuinely confused, because he knows the other person, and he knows they wouldn't cheat, and he also knows that the moves are being blitzed out too fast for engine reference cheating.
@JM-tj5qm
@JM-tj5qm 2 ай бұрын
@@insertphrasehere15 There are way more sophisticated ways to cheat than to have an engine in a second window. I think he suggested he may be cheating. But obviously wasn't sure and couldn't say it out loud
@PeterTeal77
@PeterTeal77 2 ай бұрын
>oder Undercover German!
@lukaskrisak1446
@lukaskrisak1446 Ай бұрын
Or buttplugs.. 😂
@zoltanszabo1852
@zoltanszabo1852 7 ай бұрын
Actually, at 9:12 Gustaffson unconsciously realizes what's going on when he says "either he's the biggest genius in the world" - which exactly what his opponent is.
@mrpzpdx
@mrpzpdx 4 ай бұрын
I respect this guy. He handled all of that really well.
@daeuri
@daeuri 5 ай бұрын
It should be noted that after this game, Gustaffson joined Magnus' team to assist in his preparation for his match against Caruana.
@MS-cl4oc
@MS-cl4oc 7 ай бұрын
Gustaffson is a specialist in openings and was in Carlsons world chess championship team
@54kprabha
@54kprabha 7 ай бұрын
One must note that whenever Jan gets surprised by the move he qualifies it by "instatntly'; which means it cannot be a cheating as one needs time to refer to a computer ,even with a helper, to post moves.
@flacsomtodosclas2165
@flacsomtodosclas2165 4 ай бұрын
Some people use bots to cheat but is way clear when that happens
@BeEnNLGaming
@BeEnNLGaming 3 ай бұрын
Does it thought? Seems simple to make a program that inputs the same average time a human does.
@anonymously94
@anonymously94 Ай бұрын
No you don't. You can write prediction algorithms that consider the most likely moves, and stores what to do against such moves. This allows you to respond immediately with an engine.
@AquaticSkipper
@AquaticSkipper 7 ай бұрын
This vid has been posted like 50 times over the years, and it never gets old
@DuneGames
@DuneGames 3 ай бұрын
Incredible game - Jan's responses are golden. I'm glad MC didn't leave him in the dark about how the game was played.
@Carraidas
@Carraidas 4 ай бұрын
Gustaffson is such a gentleman. Love his sportmanship and behavior.
@perpetualbystander4516
@perpetualbystander4516 7 ай бұрын
We were all waiting to see his reaction when he realizes he's been playing against Carlsen, but unfortunately that was left out. That was really a huge anticlimax. 😖
@blitzbreakdownchess
@blitzbreakdownchess 7 ай бұрын
I'm sorry about that, sadly I couldn't find any footage of Magnus telling Jan, if you can find anything like that on YT please let me know because I really want to do a follow up video on it. I think I saw a video of Jan mentioning it on one of his streams, but I can't find it now. EDIT: Ok so this is what I found online in a now deleted tweet directed to Johan Salomon "Johan, twelve people at least are wondering: When was @GMJanGustafsson made aware he was actually playing Magnus - and what was his reply?" Johan's reply: "No idea" Sadly we don't get the payoff of Gustafsson finding out on video. :(
@Glowbox3D
@Glowbox3D 7 ай бұрын
Kind of agree--I posted elsewhere that I wanted to hug the guy. When does the sequel come out?
@osgubben
@osgubben 7 ай бұрын
He was told it after the show, so no footage of his reaction possible.
@AwesomePossum1987
@AwesomePossum1987 7 ай бұрын
so fast, so deadly and so nasty moves from carlsen. Love it
@Geffi01
@Geffi01 4 ай бұрын
One of the few matches I can watch over and over again.
@lma5508
@lma5508 2 ай бұрын
I love it
@yorha2b278
@yorha2b278 7 ай бұрын
Magnus is at a whole new level even for GMs.
@fukmi4489
@fukmi4489 7 ай бұрын
And not a regular GM either, Jan is a very strong GM. It's crazy as GM title itself is such a difficult feat to achieve, but then there are some who are a class above them (nowadays called super GM), and then there is Magnus Carlsen.
@yorha2b278
@yorha2b278 7 ай бұрын
@@fukmi4489 Yeah, Magnus is definitely a Super GM. But I believe anyone with FIDE rating above 2800 are called Super GMs (unofficially I guess).
@L33TTechReviewer
@L33TTechReviewer 5 ай бұрын
​@yorha2b278 2700
@flacsomtodosclas2165
@flacsomtodosclas2165 4 ай бұрын
​@@yorha2b2782700 or above is called Super Gm 2800 or above are clear world champion candidates.
@kingshukroy8800
@kingshukroy8800 Ай бұрын
i guess if he knew he was playing magnus he would choose his moves more carefully.....
@iwannaapple7190
@iwannaapple7190 7 ай бұрын
Those are my reactions every time I play! Lol. I feel his pain many times a day and its usually followed by "I hate this game. Never playing again!"
@waitz27
@waitz27 7 ай бұрын
When I get completely crushed it's very easy for me to think that someone is cheating (most of the time this is simply not the case, I'm just getting crushed) and I'm relatively weak at 1700 rating. For Jan, it was clear that he had these thoughts too during this game! Being a Grandmaster & being bullied must have heightened these feelings also.
@afterthought6889
@afterthought6889 7 ай бұрын
go fys 1700 is not weak
@calebwilliams3055
@calebwilliams3055 7 ай бұрын
He said relatively weak.
@afterthought6889
@afterthought6889 7 ай бұрын
@@calebwilliams3055 relative to someone 300 points better - an expert
@yesno9592
@yesno9592 7 ай бұрын
@calebwilliams3055 He *wrote: "relatively weak".
@Chris-wb3qe
@Chris-wb3qe 7 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@yesno9592He *typed: “relatively weak”.
@jasonuerkvitz3756
@jasonuerkvitz3756 7 ай бұрын
Poor Jan. He handled that well but was perhaps boiling on the inside. I'm glad he later learned it was all a trick and spent some quality time fetching beers for Magnus at Magnus' penthouse suite.
@mathildewesendonck7225
@mathildewesendonck7225 7 ай бұрын
I don’t think that he was boiling inside. Jan is a very relaxed guy, and he is able to laugh about himself
@jasonuerkvitz3756
@jasonuerkvitz3756 7 ай бұрын
@@mathildewesendonck7225 Sure, in part. But I don't think a GM takes losing like that lightly to an IM. He got demolished, admitted it throughout, and was visibly shaken.
@WorthiestDavid
@WorthiestDavid 7 ай бұрын
Great video! Saw this match a while ago, but your analysis of it was great!!
@ro-kx5hk
@ro-kx5hk 5 ай бұрын
I've seen this game tons of time before, but never a full breakdown, blow by blow, like yours. Great content! Liked, subscribed. Thanks for the video, keep it up this great content!
@scottimus432
@scottimus432 7 ай бұрын
I’m proud to say I played against Benjamin Bok without knowing when he was doing a rapid tutorial and he destroyed me. A helpless feeling.
@George_Bland
@George_Bland 7 ай бұрын
How did you find out?
@sebbosebbo9794
@sebbosebbo9794 3 ай бұрын
Jan's own channel is always worth a visit and a fantastic option in the game world and fun to watch...
@lordanderson1293
@lordanderson1293 7 ай бұрын
Came for the trolling. Stayed for the wonderful analysis 😁
@relaxingsounds2570
@relaxingsounds2570 7 ай бұрын
Dutch looks simple but if you dont know your stuff you end up in cramped positions and eventually your opponent smash you I speak about rating 2000. It looks simple when Magnus plays
@TheBlackClockOfTime
@TheBlackClockOfTime 7 ай бұрын
3:32 "When is a pawn not a pawn" - Baron Vladimir Harkonnen.
@04WELLYDEEP
@04WELLYDEEP 7 ай бұрын
He seems like a nice guy
@fransvoogt5145
@fransvoogt5145 3 ай бұрын
Jan is a super guy, he takes it so well !!
@michaela5311
@michaela5311 7 ай бұрын
Carlsen is quite simply brilliant.
@robdrone
@robdrone 7 ай бұрын
So Magnus smurfin GMs from time to time
@devanman7920
@devanman7920 3 ай бұрын
How Magnus can just put a beat down on a top player like that is crazy.
@Felix-Sited
@Felix-Sited 3 ай бұрын
I liked the bit when they moved the different coloured pieces around the board. It was majestic! I've no idea what they were trying to accomplish but it looked like a dance of some sort. Like the Haka those Polanision people do before a performance. It's very quaint.
@ConfidenceGold
@ConfidenceGold 2 ай бұрын
I watched this literally 20-40 times on different channels and it's still entertaining
@mathildewesendonck7225
@mathildewesendonck7225 7 ай бұрын
7.01 this is so me 😂 Almost crawling into the screen, hoping to see the best move… even though my vision is perfectly fine
@DavidRodriguez-hh6kx
@DavidRodriguez-hh6kx 7 ай бұрын
"I shouldn't be playing chess" 😭Humble.
@jonny401
@jonny401 3 ай бұрын
You know he thought Magnus was cheating but that was some phenomenal chess
@kalasnikov1987
@kalasnikov1987 7 ай бұрын
GM says crazy moves. Magnus is GOAT
@user-xv4gc8iq2y
@user-xv4gc8iq2y 7 ай бұрын
He may have considered cheating but said that these moves came instantly, which makes illegal actions difficult (for expert advice consult GM H.M. Niemann 😅😅😅). Great prank and cool reaction of GM Gustaffson! Super video!
@ThaneR0248
@ThaneR0248 2 ай бұрын
the more i study and learn chess, the more i learn i know nothing about chess....
@NiksCro96
@NiksCro96 7 ай бұрын
6:58 Me almost every single game
@zacharysherry2910
@zacharysherry2910 6 ай бұрын
It's really cool to see the reaction before he knows it's him. Magnus is just astounding.
@S.Trades
@S.Trades 5 ай бұрын
That's not an overstatement.
@jsh1539
@jsh1539 7 ай бұрын
just discovered this channel, very pleasantly surprised, subscribed
@briantreadwell2206
@briantreadwell2206 3 ай бұрын
I’d be pretty upset if my 1200 rated opponents had Magnus sit in for a game . . . .
@stuartmitchell3739
@stuartmitchell3739 7 ай бұрын
I’m HOUNDED by Magnus. That dude just won’t LEAVE ME ALONE 😅
@yamch
@yamch 16 күн бұрын
this guy had nice humility
@icambridge
@icambridge 7 ай бұрын
"Such strange moves, played instantly" - I love that he says instantly to show that he doesn't think there is any cheating. People who cheat and play where moves after a period of time need the time to tell the computer the new moves for it to compute. The fact it was instantly is where it shows it's not coming from a computer.
@tenningale
@tenningale 6 ай бұрын
There are computer scripts now that people use and get moves out consistently in 1-2 seconds. Most cheaters aren't that sophisticated but some are, unfortunately.
@fernandoenriquez6653
@fernandoenriquez6653 7 ай бұрын
Magnus the engine mover😂😂😂
@marlonlouiejeffdoroliat8593
@marlonlouiejeffdoroliat8593 7 ай бұрын
Damn that was brilliant....
@Chris1111116
@Chris1111116 3 ай бұрын
Jan Gustaffson is such a nice guy that should have way more screen time!
@alexanderhelweg-mikkelsen8736
@alexanderhelweg-mikkelsen8736 3 ай бұрын
- Is he trying to humiliate me? Yes.
@joe.fr23
@joe.fr23 3 ай бұрын
"you try to humiliate me".. After he lose, humiliation did work perfectly then. 🤣😎
@Komprimat1111
@Komprimat1111 Ай бұрын
Gustaffson?! The best and funniest chess moderator (especially in his German talks) and a great GM! (...og en morsom idé fra Carlsen! ;D)
@conormacleod1987
@conormacleod1987 7 ай бұрын
Poor bloke sounded absolutely gutted
@vinrave
@vinrave 7 ай бұрын
“I already dislike my position“ at early game. Only a true grandmaster can understand. To me it looks like he hasn’t lost a piece yet.
@mathildewesendonck7225
@mathildewesendonck7225 7 ай бұрын
Oh no, I‘m a 600 and I can understand it perfectly!! I usually dislike my position after two or three moves
@adamant4107
@adamant4107 Ай бұрын
Magus has done this to Gustafsson a few times. I'll admit, Jan takes it like a Gentleman, even though you know he's upset. Never stops being funny though.
@Chadok89
@Chadok89 7 ай бұрын
I think the most interesting part is his that very quickly he realized that something was off and that his opponent was very strong. I mean, he could have think it was just bad luck, or he wasn't in the game...but no, he knew he was beaten fair and square.
@fox2569
@fox2569 7 ай бұрын
Luck doesn’t really exist in chess, the only luck comes online where you or your opponent could mouse slip.
@theWebWizrd
@theWebWizrd 7 ай бұрын
​@@fox2569 There is definitely luck involved in the wide sense of the word. Sometimes you see a move, and sometimes you don't. Or, you can make a move where you miss a potential move from your opponent, but you see after you moved that luckily there is a way to answer and you are fine. The game doesn't contain randomness, but people's behaviour certainly do.
@bestibulizar6141
@bestibulizar6141 5 ай бұрын
@@theWebWizrd all of that isnt luck but skill or condition, the online mouse slip really is luck though and super frustrating when it happens
@vibovitold
@vibovitold 4 ай бұрын
@@theWebWizrdstatistical flukes average out in the long run, but within a single game obviously there's an element of bluff. even Kramnik overlooked a mate in 1 once (against Deep Fritz). there's also something known as a "tilt". not exactly luck, but a state of mind - once the player starts doubting himself for whatever reason, errors begin to breed more errors, and it may take a while to regain composure. this state of mind can be quite volatile, especially among some players. (Nepo being a prominent example - once something snaps, he starts hallucinating stuff and blundering a lot, playing well below his level, as it happened in both of his WC matches).
@ranchopatriot
@ranchopatriot 7 ай бұрын
I remember watching this when it happened. So funny.
@Vfor12345
@Vfor12345 7 ай бұрын
Carlsen on the troll mod
@Draco-jk3rb
@Draco-jk3rb 7 ай бұрын
banterthon clearly thought that he was playing against stockfish, so he wouldnt have been too upset about losing, just frustrated
@user-kh6xl4yg1j
@user-kh6xl4yg1j 4 ай бұрын
Interesting game; stunning that Magnus creates these complications barely out of the opening.
@chad0x
@chad0x 7 ай бұрын
I remember watching this live and peeing myself laughing as he melted down.
@ze3007
@ze3007 7 ай бұрын
super great content AMAZING!!! keep going man +1 subscribe
@blitzbreakdownchess
@blitzbreakdownchess 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@TheCagedLion
@TheCagedLion 7 ай бұрын
Its Crazy a GM would be this lost playing Magnus.
@polarbear-oi7ow
@polarbear-oi7ow Ай бұрын
I thought he was saying the Dutch is humiliating him was because he is German! 🤣🤣🤣
@9fingeredrippingsaxplayer909
@9fingeredrippingsaxplayer909 2 ай бұрын
So basically, this is just some "Monday morning quarterback" stuff
@mahmuthamdullah3646
@mahmuthamdullah3646 7 ай бұрын
I think that this game was more of luck because Jan had the brilliant bishop move in mind, but didnt go for it. It was a gamble by Magnus which luckily went through. I love them both as players and human beings. :)
@qondam
@qondam 6 ай бұрын
in chess you capitalize on your opponent's mistakes. he made a mistake and Carlsen punished it. Gamble?!
@anthonydeng5419
@anthonydeng5419 5 ай бұрын
@@qondamyes, magnus gambled. If Jan found the correct continuation, he would have an advantage. So magnus took the risk that Jan would not find the refutation
@EliasHasle
@EliasHasle 4 ай бұрын
​@@anthonydeng5419Or Magnus was himself unaware of the way out.
@mathildewesendonck7225
@mathildewesendonck7225 7 ай бұрын
There is a video of a similar game: Kasparov raging during a friendly simultaneous 😅 He was playing against somebody who had a much higher rating than he had been told. And Kasparov just wasn’t having it 🤣
@vibovitold
@vibovitold 4 ай бұрын
and Kasparov was perfectly right. what does it mean: "friendly" simultaneous, by the way? : ) as opposed to all the hostile ones? simultaneous games are always exhibitions, of course they don't count towards anybody's rating... it doesn't justify misleading or sandbagging. if he's told none of his opponents is rated over 2000, the organizers shouldn't be sneaking in people who are.
@7373walker
@7373walker 2 ай бұрын
My introduction to chess was Jan and Peter Svidler's commentary on chess24, love this guy!
@Flum666
@Flum666 7 ай бұрын
Jan have worked with Magnus for more than a decade, so I'm pretty sure he can figure out it's Magnus.
@vibovitold
@vibovitold 4 ай бұрын
especially since the account was Norwegian... i suspect Jan might have been in on it all along, and this was sort of a publicity stunt. for context, it was 2015; a year after chess24 was co-founded by Gustafsson (and a few years later it merged wth Carlsen's company). it's not like they played on some random website
@ChantzRisse
@ChantzRisse 5 ай бұрын
This dudes camera makes him look like a 90’s news anchor.
@moppis_welt6814
@moppis_welt6814 4 ай бұрын
"either he is the biggest genius in the world or this is weird" .... i think Gustaffson didnt know how right he was here 😅
@_lordphoenix
@_lordphoenix 4 ай бұрын
This is the difference between mastering theory and being intuitive... both have extreme pros and cons
@leodegas7731
@leodegas7731 20 күн бұрын
I think this guy was very humble in his loss. My idea of a GM ( I don't play chess) is that they would have a big ego. He seems like a very nice person who is also great at what he does. ✌️
@XxXyzxX
@XxXyzxX 17 күн бұрын
He is. He also coached Carlsen in the past and is currently coaching Nepo for the candidates.
@leodegas7731
@leodegas7731 17 күн бұрын
@XxXyzxX Glad to hear that. Great to know that GMs can be great tacticians and nice guys also. The world needs that. ✌️
@anotherelvis
@anotherelvis 4 ай бұрын
Gustaffson was on of Magnus's seconds when Magnus prepared for the world chess championship. Furthermore he commentated for chess24 which was partly owned by Magnus.
@RandyMahnke
@RandyMahnke 4 ай бұрын
Gustafsson is literally the founder of chess24
@SpaceCadet4Jesus
@SpaceCadet4Jesus Ай бұрын
I watched this LIVE and it was hilarious. Jan is so confused.
@ariadnepyanfar1048
@ariadnepyanfar1048 2 ай бұрын
It’s cool how Gustafsson picks up right at the start of the game that he could be facing a much better opponent than he is. Even though the opponent’s moves are super weird, Gustafson always allows that they may be over his head. Much respect for his grace and acuity.
@isabellam1936
@isabellam1936 Ай бұрын
I love Christopherson commentary on how Magnus plays so much. It’s fascinating what’s he’s saying about his not knowing it was him.
@clintonlindsey4391
@clintonlindsey4391 4 ай бұрын
I wanna see his reaction when he found out it's Magnus.
@dougholtby3035
@dougholtby3035 7 ай бұрын
he even knew Salmon should be in bed .... , amazing how many things he said that were correct !
@dimecanal
@dimecanal 7 ай бұрын
He took his soul
@teeemm9456
@teeemm9456 5 ай бұрын
I feel for JG, this is how I feel vs Stockfish level 5 on Lichess.
@HDsT0rM
@HDsT0rM Ай бұрын
Gustaffson seems to be recording from an aircraft in space in the 80's
@tenningale
@tenningale 6 ай бұрын
He knew this was definitely Hans, he just didn't want to say it out loud
@edboldt3769
@edboldt3769 2 ай бұрын
Great sport!!! A true artist and fantastic comentator!
@terrysouth7201
@terrysouth7201 28 күн бұрын
I love how online chess pretty much eliminates the touch + move rule
@FinCrow84
@FinCrow84 7 ай бұрын
I think it was Jan's self confidence that made him lose this game. His position was over a half of the game just ok, but already at the opening he was questioning his stuff. When he did the first clear blunder, he said "Why I keep missing all these moves" and clearly that was the first one.
@theWebWizrd
@theWebWizrd 7 ай бұрын
OK for the computer isn’t the same as OK for a human, though. Some positions are just way harder and more uncomfortable and might rely on some really weird computer- only ideas. I trust Jan when he says he doesn't like his position.
@dalimelki2971
@dalimelki2971 7 ай бұрын
ofc when he is playing an im when ur a gm and ur pos getting worst u will lose confidence or maybe start thinking something off if jan knew it magnus he would stayed focus and from the start
@mathiasdargel6108
@mathiasdargel6108 7 ай бұрын
no off but i see so many comments like this and its not about jan being often not in position or not confident enough, it is just magnus is in better positions and overall is on another lvl. When u are used to play vs ppl on your own level, you often can relate to moves from the opp but magnus often moves unexpectable so an ''avarage GM'' cant handle those moves. I know jan and often watch his german streams and those frases he says are not the exact meaning of what he trys to communicate. just language barrier.
@karimsonsafehold9233
@karimsonsafehold9233 7 ай бұрын
If jan had more time he could play better but magnus chosw the dutch to attack his mind. Jan does not study dutch defense lines. No memory means blitz can surprise him because magnus out calculates him
@gungagalunga9040
@gungagalunga9040 20 күн бұрын
Kramnich: follow the process: block, report and go coffee.
@GoodBye-hy3zw
@GoodBye-hy3zw 3 ай бұрын
Very confusing game 😂 Specially for you mister😂
@flixmaster200
@flixmaster200 Ай бұрын
I started playing the Dutch and I just love almost everything about it.
@michaelhowell2809
@michaelhowell2809 7 ай бұрын
What are the symbols after each move is made?
@dutyofcall7659
@dutyofcall7659 28 күн бұрын
The German playing a "blitz" game, the irony 😂
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