"5 Most Common Mistakes of Estranged/Alienated Parents-How to Heal Them" Dr. Joshua Coleman

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Parents who have been cut off by their children experience enormous pain and confusion. Sadly, those emotions often cause parents to communicate or behave in ways that hurt their ability to move the relationship with their children toward reconciliation.
In this talk, I will review the 5 most common mistakes and the best way for parents to heal them if they have occurred.
Dr. Coleman is a psychologist in private practice in the San Francisco Bay Area and a Senior Fellow with the Council on Contemporary Families, a non-partisan organization of leading sociologists, historians, psychologists and demographers dedicated to providing the press and public with the latest research and best practice findings about American families.
He has written for the New York Times, The Atlantic, NBC THINK, The Behavioral Scientist, CNN, MarketWatch, the San Francisco Chronicle, Greater Good Magazine, AEON, Huffington Post,
Psychology Today, and more. He has given talks to the faculties at Harvard, the Well Cornell Department of Psychiatry and other academic institutions. A frequent guest on the Today Show and NPR, he has been featured on Sesame Street, 20/20, Good Morning America, PBS, America Online Coaches, and numerous news programs for FOX, ABC, CNN, and NBC television.
He is the author of numerous articles and chapters and has written four books: The Rules of Estrangement (Random House); The Marriage Makeover: Finding Happiness in Imperfect Harmony (St. Martin's Press); The Lazy Husband: How to Get Men to Do More Parenting and Housework (St. Martin's Press); When Parents Hurt; Compassionate Strategies When You and Your Grown Child Don't Get Along( Harper Collins).
He is the co-editor, along with historian Stephanie Coontz, of seven online volumes of Unconventional Wisdom: News You Can Use, a compendium of noteworthy research on the contemporary family, gender, sexuality, poverty, and work-family issues.
His books have been translated into Chinese, Korean, Russian, Polish, and Croatian.
He is the co-editor, along with historian Stephanie Coontz of seven online volumes of Unconventional Wisdom: News You Can Use, a compendium of noteworthy research on the contemporary family, gender, sexuality, poverty, and work-family issues.
Dr Coleman also writes music for film and television. His music has been featured on Lethal Weapon, Chicago Fire, Chicago PD, Longmire, Shameless, Keeping Up With the Kardashians, Fresh Off the Boat, Supergirl, Mistresses, Hustlers, RuPaul's Drag Race and many more.

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@tpowell3776
@tpowell3776 Жыл бұрын
I am moving past the pain, disloyalty and this generation's extreme narcissism. I want to be free to be myself around people who love me and enjoy my presence, I always pray that they are healthy, loved and at peace, we all deserve that..
@reneehouser2925
@reneehouser2925 Жыл бұрын
Well said 👏👏👏
@donnawomack4223
@donnawomack4223 Жыл бұрын
Same here.
@michellefoster6557
@michellefoster6557 Жыл бұрын
Me also! Amen to the extra unlabored time!
@tpowell3776
@tpowell3776 Жыл бұрын
@@michellefoster6557 I couldnt agree more, time to be at peace and love life..
@robertaharris3481
@robertaharris3481 Жыл бұрын
I want to let go but I don't know how. It isn't so much missing my daughter who had started abusing me long ago but my grandkids.i hate seeing them suffer through all this. They were with me every other weekend most of the time. It has been almost two years
@janparish8055
@janparish8055 10 ай бұрын
In the beginning it was “reconciliation at any cost” for me. 7 years later, of introspection, counselling, unsuccessful attempts at reconnecting, oceans of lonely tears, research and reading, and no answers to my questions, I have accepted my daughter’s decision and, thankfully, come to some semblance of peace. I no longer wish to reconcile at any cost, and certainly not at the expense of my dignity or my newfound serenity. She is welcome back as a whole, healed and compassionate individual. I loved my girl with my whole heart, and she kicked me to the curb like a piece of trash with no explanation. She wants to talk boundaries? I have lovingly declared mine.
@candyislander3563
@candyislander3563 9 ай бұрын
I'm with you sister!
@Charliesworld1213
@Charliesworld1213 9 ай бұрын
Same here
@elizabethalexander6528
@elizabethalexander6528 9 ай бұрын
Hard healthy boundaries are actually the best model for them anyway. I have had years of therapy and learned self love. Being gentle with yourself. I have son's as a mother I think a girl would have been hard. I am not necessarily proud of that - I was a pain in the ass and have my own mother issues. My mom got Alzheimer's and it was really horrific and I felt horrible for her. I think her unresolved trauma drove her crazy. She was a very controlled self sufficient person who eventually was just overwhelmed with the inability to juggle it all. Gabor Mate is a excellent Dr. whose theory we need to be loved unconditionally by our loved ones and our culture is toxic to mental health.
@lauramcbride3239
@lauramcbride3239 9 ай бұрын
I have been going through this for 20 years now. I have finally come to the same conclusion. My son has made his decisions and now I have made mine and have written him out of my will.
@jeannemarie5908
@jeannemarie5908 9 ай бұрын
My DIL said something about me behaving ‘entitled’ .. I gave them a boundary: don’t ever accuse me of having an attitude of entitlement again. I simply don’t feel entitled to anything in this life except paycheck at the end of the pay period. I am not entitled to a relationship with them or their children. And the other side of that coin is .. they are not entitled to a relationship with me. I am not going to be crushed and hurt by them. Their children simply will not have their Nana.
@stacey9003
@stacey9003 Жыл бұрын
Managing relationships with adult children that reject us is a heavy, heavy load. I'm grateful to have found your channel, pleased to discover ways to accept, manage, and understand this unexpected turn of events. Strangely comforted that I'm not alone. Thank you.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
So glad we can be of help to you.
@anneiconex1473
@anneiconex1473 Жыл бұрын
@stacey9003 RIGHTTTT
@WVgrl59
@WVgrl59 Жыл бұрын
You said it exactly right. This unexpected turn of events PS me in deep pain. I would never have thought my son would say that we did not have a close relationship. He could call me anytime and he did. What is BPD wife turned him against me. If you would have bet me a million dollars that this would happen, I would have taken that bet. I would never have thought this would have happened.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
@@WVgrl59 so sorry for your situation. I hope our videos help.
@CarolynCoy
@CarolynCoy Жыл бұрын
Ditto. So sad that this is a common ever increasing problem 😢
@miquelnewman6936
@miquelnewman6936 10 ай бұрын
Some things are just broken and you cannot fix them. Obsess about it and you lose, attempt to fix it-you lose, blame yourself-you lose, blame them-you lose. For heavens sake, people LOVE yourself and go find happiness elsewhere. Love yourself enough to let go of your past mistakes move on! Don't lose any more time chasing bad kids that have little or no capacity for forgiveness, or understanding! Besides there are lots of people who would appreciate your time! Find them!
@pc8863
@pc8863 9 ай бұрын
Well put. Pretty much says it all.
@pedinurse1
@pedinurse1 8 ай бұрын
Some people can deal with it and others cant
@ddhqj2023
@ddhqj2023 8 ай бұрын
Completely agree with you. My daughter made a decision and I'm not knocking myself out trying to reconnect. We aren't awful people, our other daughter loves us and wanted us to move next door to her when she had her first baby, so that's a great testament to how we were as parents. So not making any effort to reconnect with an adult that I now know I can't trust to be kind. So my advice is the same as yours Miquel, take care of yourself and move on.
@ddhqj2023
@ddhqj2023 8 ай бұрын
Do you know how to read? Did anybody say any of these estranged adults are bad? Nope. But some ADULTS, some PEOPLE are broken and it isn't necessarily because of how they are raised. Sometimes it's in their nature to separate.@@ThursdaysChild-zk2pd
@miquelnewman6936
@miquelnewman6936 8 ай бұрын
@@ThursdaysChild-zk2pd Have you not read the story of Cain and Able? Children grow up to be adults, who make their own decisions. Thats why church Pastors often have the baddest kids. And don't get me started on kids of divorced parents who use the child as a pawn to hurt the other parent.
@leonieblah8806
@leonieblah8806 Жыл бұрын
So glad I found this channel. I thought I was the only person who had such uncaring children. It has been years and I am still in a state of shock. So sad that is so common now.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
I am so glad that you found us too! Sorry for your situation. I hope all of our videos help you.
@MB-sg8dx
@MB-sg8dx Жыл бұрын
I’m 6 minutes in and feel the same way. Just cried buckets this morning again… no words for how bewildering this estrangement is. I could NOT have tried harder to be the best parent ever. My beautiful grandkids live 15 minutes away but it may as well be 3 hours for how little I’m permitted to see them. My heart is broken 😭
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
@@MB-sg8dx so very sorry for your situation. I do hope our videos help.
@MB-sg8dx
@MB-sg8dx Жыл бұрын
@@FamiliesDividedTV thank u
@diantinatalist6686
@diantinatalist6686 Жыл бұрын
@@MB-sg8dxthere are reasons you weren’t liked as a parent.
@principessa1957
@principessa1957 Жыл бұрын
After so much time, it becomes clear it's not the end of the world losing closeness with an adult child. They don't all deserve the immense energy it takes to go through these mental gymnastics over and over again. Their presence loses its value over time, just as they claim they wanted to happen. Let go and enjoy your life with those who RESPECT you! Those people deserve your time and energy, not those who are abusive and inhumane.
@marcialane6955
@marcialane6955 Жыл бұрын
I’m here at this point-love them from a distance and move on.
@kea484
@kea484 Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@marijabu
@marijabu Жыл бұрын
Well said.
@oldfirelady4411
@oldfirelady4411 Жыл бұрын
YES!
@CB-ei6ez
@CB-ei6ez Жыл бұрын
Amen.....I'm tired of having to beg to see my grandson, focus on the people who value and respect you
@abigailoneill7699
@abigailoneill7699 Жыл бұрын
This was so helpful thank you. My son’s wife convinced our son that our entire family including his identical twin brother are evil and toxic. It’s been since 3/2020 since either of us seen or talked to him. I would like to say though that my healing was to stop apologizing and taking responsibility for false accusations by the DIL, I’ve experienced it is the adult child that inflict guilt and shame on us. Twisting words and meaning. I’ve accepted I might not see him again, but pray everyday God turns it around.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
So very sorry for your situation. Please stay strong and trust God!
@hollee9618
@hollee9618 Жыл бұрын
@abigailoneill7699 This same thing happened to my family. My sister in law a self proclaimed Satanist has convinced my brother that his entire family grandparents (both sides) both parents and me (his sibling) are all so toxic and terrible and he shouldn't even speak to us. She has a twisted sense of reality and we (my mother and I) finally stopped apologizing for false accusations and stopped begging for them to forgive us for things she twisted in her own head that I'm now responsible for reconciling. I REFUSE to accept her delusional perception of who we are. So my brother cut us all off. It's been since 11/2021. He lives about 7 mins down the road and he won't even "like" photos of his own nieces on fb. That's how petty it is. I struggle to forgive her. I feel she tore my family apart. I think I could forgive my brother but her.... Idk how to. Idk if you know anything about this but when I read about Borderline Personality Disorder it really helped me see exactly what my family and I are going through because of her. Sounds alot like your situation too. Idk you or your whole situation, but after what I've experienced, it sounds like you have encountered the same monster I have, and I'm so sorry for the grief your family has experienced. It's awful grieving a loved one who hasn't even passed away. I'll be praying for peace for your family and for your son to come around ❤
@jamic6351
@jamic6351 Жыл бұрын
Sounds more than half way there. Acceptance is a tall order. You’ve mastered it. Make a positive out if it. If you’ve ever been in a group of young kids…one kid is acting out and the others can’t get a handle on the fix. Change sandboxes. Set up a game where everyone works together or game doesn’t work. Devise a strategy. Family get togethers should be off campus…not somebody’s house, reserve a picnic pavilion and bring nets and balls for outdoor team play. Start Ancestry family data entry. Someone said Ancestry is FaceBook for dead people. As you research and post family pictures, Son will be peeping over your shoulder. Bring his spouse into it, coyly, at first. It’s n activity for all. Record history, annotate, share files. It’s like kids in a group. Just observe for a moment. The group doesn’t know how to bring the wayward sheep back. Then..somebody will pick up a toy as a peace offering. DIL wants to stop this. Somebody offer her a toy.
@cindykelly2944
@cindykelly2944 Жыл бұрын
Your story is mine. It is a story that is hurtful, but I chose to pray for my son to be healed from his narcissistic thoughts and anxieties. In my faith and the promises of God I believe our relationship will be reconciled. I have had to forgive myself and my stepmom who's parenting was abusive, critical and controlling.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
@@cindykelly2944 I do hope you stay strong and trust God.
@MarianneKennedy-o7h
@MarianneKennedy-o7h 11 ай бұрын
After 8 years of my daughter choosing to distance herself from me, I’ve decided that she’s entitled to her feelings, and you can’t make anyone love you. I did my very best, maybe too much. I believe that after all this time, I must have done a great job as a parent because she’s landed on her feet, has a great job & career, has been able to buy her own house, choose her own friends, and love who she loves. She’s set a huge boundary. I have to respect it, and let go with love & peace. No more tears, or anger over “what did I do”. She left the nest, she’s flown away, and made her own life without me. I hope when she has children, if she so chooses, that she never experiences the pain of a lost child. For whatever reason. I will always love her and welcome her into my life, if she so chooses. To all the parents out there, I feel your pain & I pray that one day you will find reconciliation in your own heart. They will always belong to us.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV 11 ай бұрын
Very well said. Thank you! I am so sorry for your situation. I hope our videos help.
@jeanettefrey7676
@jeanettefrey7676 10 ай бұрын
Very well said
@teresaalbert5518
@teresaalbert5518 10 ай бұрын
Ditto. I have this relationship with my daughter. I don’t think she will ever have children though she wants them so I am free of that. She never listened to my advice and she has told me she doesn’t need me as a mother anymore but a friend. But friends don’t treat each other as she has treated me. We have tried counseling but it is always my fault about everything. I don’t care anymore. Has taken years to let go but it’s either let go or drown in pain and misery and I won’t do that anymore. Peace to you.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV 10 ай бұрын
@@teresaalbert5518 stay strong and trust God.
@MarianneKennedy-o7h
@MarianneKennedy-o7h 9 ай бұрын
@@teresaalbert5518 If I may Teresa, I’d like to wish you a very Merry Christmas. We share daughter estrangement and you posted something very sweet to me that helped. I do hope at this time of year which is beautiful because Jesus was born today, and he loves all of us. At least your daughter wants you as a friend. My daughter did send me a beautiful Christmas/birthday card as my birthday is today, and it was my most,most treasured gift. The pain will never go away sweetheart, but with God’s helping hand, He will help us with that pain. Life is a gift, and we must all go on with our lives with our girls or without them. I think maybe the divorce I went through caused a lot of anger in her as she took her Dad’s side. We just don’t have any control of what is, we only have God to turn to each day and ask for help and a reprieve. I’m thinking of you today and wishing you happiness. I do hope this has brought you some peace and love.
@qwerty36515
@qwerty36515 11 ай бұрын
I feel it's important to look at every situation individually and not make generalizations. Some adult children are genuinely awful people to their parents, while some parents are awful and deserve their estrangement. The context gets lost when talking about experiences on the internet because we really just don't know what went down, and what important details are being omitted.
@christinecooper772
@christinecooper772 11 ай бұрын
Well said. It's odd to me how anyone can assume they know based on a comment. Estrangement is a process too with a lot of emotional upheaval and defenses so you never know what stage someone is at in that.
@yolandathompson6138
@yolandathompson6138 8 ай бұрын
100%
@clairen4584
@clairen4584 8 ай бұрын
Qwerty .. what's *your* context?
@clairen4584
@clairen4584 8 ай бұрын
​@@christinecooper772 Can't assume? .. IF When you look at how a person has languaged their comment, 'word' *choices* are a window helping to read between the lines of their situation or mindset..
@lisafeck1537
@lisafeck1537 8 ай бұрын
I agree. Your point is very important to keep in mind on an individual basis. Also, sometimes addiction is impacting the astrangment on either side.
@yokkijoy
@yokkijoy Жыл бұрын
As an adult child currently having problems with my mum, I've got to say that a lot of the things you mentioned when discussing rule 1 are actually things I have considered. I have considered (quite deeply) that my mum had a difficult upbringing, that she did the best she could, that she gave me so many opportunities that I am grateful for, that she did so much right, that she is human (and obviously not perfect).... I worry so much that some of the hurt and resentment I feel is unfair to her. I keep my own hurts to myself (abandoning my own needs again and again) to please her, or in an effort not to upset her, because that is easier than dealing with the shame she tries to inflict on me if I have and/or express a feeling that upsets her (eg. Wanting her to contact me prior to coming over to visit my newborn and I (rather than just rocking up and opening my door without knocking), wanting to feel free to name my own child without any repeated pressure from her about what she would like me to name my child). Anyway. I just wanted to say that... just in case any parents out there who are going through this wanted to hear that your child might (like me) already be thinking deeply of you and your feelings and what is fair. I wish anyone going through this kind of estrangement the best of luck (parent and child alike). I kind of feel this information is a little one sided and I would recommend that parents experiencing this should perhaps also watch some videos on topics that might reflect your child's perspective a little more (if you are truly wishing to mend a rift with your child).
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much for sharing your thoughts! They are much appreciated. I wonder if you have sat down with your mom and explained boundaries to her? You are being fair and reasonable. I wish my son would sit down and talk with me about all of this. We always were able to in the past. You seem to be a very mature and loving child. Your mom is so fortunate to have you in her life. I will be praying. xoxoxo
@djer05010401
@djer05010401 Жыл бұрын
​@@FamiliesDividedTVor maybe it's not her job to teach her mother about boundaries. Maybe she's got her own child now who deserves all of her effort and attention and worry and maybe she deserves a break from having to emotionally parent her own mother.
@zenaidacarroll215
@zenaidacarroll215 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your point of view. It is nice to know that the adult children are really thinking about the alienation too. I have listened to the adult child’s perspective which was so helpful! I had totally given up when my adult son reached out to me on Father’s Day! Thanks to the different perspectives I’ve been hearing, I was able to take responsibility for the boundaries that I cross (well meaning as they might have seem) and he responded immediately saying that this is what he’s been wanting to hear all these years! It’s been almost nine years and after finally given up, I now have hope that we may be on the path of finally, slowly, reconciling. Thanks for your perspective. I agree it’s beneficial for the parent to hear the adult child’s perspective!
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
@@djer05010401 it was a suggestion in trying to work out their situation. It is her choice.
@yokkijoy
@yokkijoy Жыл бұрын
@@FamiliesDividedTV I have tried. With regard to coming over unannounced (which might be when bubs is napping, or perhaps my house is just in a state or I haven't had the time to shower yet), she just kept doing it and finding new ways to ensure it was more difficult for me to be cross with her about it ("I was just in the neighbourhood, and look, I have a gift for you" (if you were just in the neighbourhood, how did you have the presence of mind to pack a gift for me?), or "I shouldnt need an appointment to see my grandchild", etc). I understood she was excited and also struggling at the time because my dad had dementia (he has since past), but it's not that hard to flick a text my way to make sure it's a good time. From my perspective, she saw the reasonable boundary that I needed to feel comfortable in our relationship as a rejection. She is aware of how difficult it is for me to advocate for myself with her, and I think she thought that if she just kept pushing, I would give in out of sheer exhaustion. All that being said. I love her. She is amazing and there are so many things i am grateful for. Unfortunately she is very difficult to talk to about any problems or feelings I might have if they are things that might trigger her feeling shame or guilt. I end up feeling like I don't have a right to my own emotions or feelings and so I just keep them to myself and try to soldier on (that's easier than the way she makes me feel if I upset her). Sadly, this can't really help but lead to resentment and feeling like I just want to run away. Not all child/parent stories look like mine. I realise there are some parents who may truly have done close to nothing wrong and are less difficult to talk to and yet are experiencing estrangement. My mum did so much right, but the things she didn't do so well have truly hurt me and made my life quite hard. I'm doing my best to work on my issues so I can do better for my child (who's now 2). I just hope she can work on some of her issues too. I hope you and your son can get to a good place. It's hard to acknowledge and accept the things you may have done "badly" (whether you're the child or the parent). It's hard to work on yourself, but I really think that's the way back to each other. Peace, love and best of luck to everyone struggling with this issue.
@CrystalPenn-oc2fs
@CrystalPenn-oc2fs 11 ай бұрын
My daughter hasn't spoken to me for several years. I love her and sincerely wish her well, but I will NOT coddle her, nor lie and hide my feelings for ANY relationship. I did my job in raising her. She's an adult now and can make her own choices. I'm also free to make choices for myself.
@elizabethd.2398
@elizabethd.2398 11 ай бұрын
There’s always a good reason why an adult child cuts off a parent. I cut off my abusive narcissistic mother from my life 11 years ago, and I’m finally leading a peaceful life. Thank God she’s the “ignoring” type - because I would hate for her to be stalking me; like some narcissistic mothers do to their children when they get cut off.
@pamc3338
@pamc3338 11 ай бұрын
I'm sure she's glad to be rid of her self centered cold hearted offspring too.
@grannygoes7882
@grannygoes7882 11 ай бұрын
I agree with you and I think it's interesting that only one of my five have cut me out. But still there are those who want to blame me. My daughter that is estranged, didn't just cut me out, she cut out the entire family. Is everyone to blame with the exception of her? Makes no sense. I think the ones preaching so hard that this is somehow our fault are those doing the same thing.
@elizabethd.2398
@elizabethd.2398 11 ай бұрын
@@grannygoes7882 Of course she cut off the entire family; that's exactly how scapegoating works. The entire toxic family usually targets one child to be the scapegoat. When that child finally says "Enough" to the abuse and leaves the toxic family, a new scapegoat gets assigned that role.
@elizabethd.2398
@elizabethd.2398 11 ай бұрын
@@pamc3338 Nice try -- but your gaslighting won't work on me; so save it for your next victim. And if your child walked out on you, thank God for her that she's been saved from your toxicity. I wish her a life filled with love, happiness and peace! 🙏
@bman7673
@bman7673 Жыл бұрын
My dad was a mean abusive drunk. My mom was emotionally and verbally abusive. They’ve never apologized for anything despite many opportunities to do so and now that they’re elderly they want me to simply pretend like nothing ever happened and to just get over it. They’ve been disowned now for years and while I’m sad about it, I have no regrets.
@ajrwilde14
@ajrwilde14 2 ай бұрын
Good for you x
@susanmercurio1060
@susanmercurio1060 2 ай бұрын
Your parents sound like mine, except that was my stepfather who was the mean abusive drunk. And they were both physically abusive.
@hopeseeker97
@hopeseeker97 Ай бұрын
There is a difference between distancing yourself for safety and that of distancing yourself because your parents were mean to you (at least in their eyes). Kids these days go no contact for some of the most narcissistic reasons. 😢
@UpsideDown853
@UpsideDown853 Ай бұрын
I know I am late, but congratulations! It’s a hard decision and often comes with hardships. Right there with you ✨
@jenniferabbo
@jenniferabbo 29 күн бұрын
Brave you 🎉
@elaine8013
@elaine8013 9 ай бұрын
I needed this channel a long time ago. Would have saved me years of hurt, pain and second guessing every step around them. They can go. I lived a long life before them, I can live without them. Don't show up crying to my funeral and don't expect anything. I put my entire life on hold working 3 jobs to support and raise them with no help. Now I'm not good enough and an embarrassment in front of their rich friends.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV 9 ай бұрын
I am sorry for your situation. I am glad that you have found us and I hope the videos help.
@tomdavis3125
@tomdavis3125 8 ай бұрын
OH Elaine. This is exactly what I'm just starting to go through. I'm a man and was separated from my daughter's mother when she was 1 years old. I fought and fought for half custody even though the reason for the breakup was the mother's numerous affairs. Numerous. That's a whole different story. But I worked two jobs, paid child support, took her to events and fun things, paid for everything even though I was flat broke. All my money went to her. Things were very close even as she went to medical school. She's now a surgeon and met some rich guy who pretends to be nice, but you can tell he shrugs my wife and me off. She is starting to do the same. They are engaged now. Wedding is one year off. The family greets us at the door to their party and then walks away. The fiance promises to send us things, swears up and down he will, but never does. All kinds of small things like that. Now, my daughter is doing it to. I can tell that I'm losing her. For the first time since my dog died when I was 22, I cried. I spent the last week yelling at everyone until finally today, I cried. I miss my girl so much. I'm so glad to find this channel. It's going to help me immensely. I think my goal now is just to control myself and get along so I at least can see her from time to time but not invest so much emotionally anymore. I have to start letting her go. It's a classic, tragic tale. Poor working man puts his daughter through medical school so she can make 500K a year and marry into a rich family and ignore her father. I took a lot of her pictures down to help clear my mind, not all of them. I'm going to focus on my hobbies more, I enjoy flying and aviation. Fellow parents: We can all sleep well at night knowing that we did the right thing and we can all love ourselves for being good people. In the end, we're all alone anyway.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV 8 ай бұрын
@@tomdavis3125 I am so very sorry for your situation. I am glad you found our channel as well. I hope our videos help. Stay strong and trust God.
@susanjannarone135
@susanjannarone135 8 ай бұрын
I don’t know if you are still reading this because I came in pretty late, but I am disabled due to moving around all the time and living in an area. I really didn’t know very well and actually walking out in the yard. I was sprayed by a tree sprayer next door from us, we were renting and I got hypogammaglobulinemia, which is a long word for everything makes me sick because my immune system has been damaged. I tried so hard to be a good mom and actually I was my mom was mentally ill and I think now we know more about the cause of that. Nonetheless, I was able to make sure my son got into every single program available to make him stand out because he did have a higher IQ, and he was very bright. We were cute. We were very close until he met his wife and gradually he has less time for me, and when he was in trouble because he hit somebody over the head with a beer bottle he had a lot of time for me at course. When he told me that his wife’s mother was not invited to anything and nobody in the family spoke to her anymore I felt kind of strange. Her mother married her grandfather and I said oh gosh that must’ve hurt everybody. Well now it’s hurting me. Christine is my daughter-in-law and she is getting colder and colder and she seems to be in control of everything. What is the thing she’s in control of is the fact that my son needs to go into therapy. He is going to die by age 50 if he doesn’t stop drinking. I think there is a time to try to help people and there is a time to just quit because I tried to help him before and he did not appreciate it at all. All my son appreciates his money, and I will give him none I just paid for the wedding shower which is $5000 for this ridiculous great big show on Palm Beach with violins. I don’t like the style these two have. They could take care of this child for a long time with $5000. It’s just really sad that your children grow up and they are different people from you.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV 8 ай бұрын
@@susanjannarone135 so sorry for your situation. I hope our videos help you.
@oldfirelady4411
@oldfirelady4411 Жыл бұрын
Let them go! If that's what they want - LET THEM GO! The greatest power they have over you is when you NEED a relationship with your children/grandchildren - when you are desperate for reconciliation. Stop being desperate. It's not your /my responsibility to make amends, tippy toe around so that I don't say or do anything that might make them feel bad or uncomfortable, or let them off taking responsibility for their own decisions. Your letter of amends simply plays to them, and empowers them, and shows how little respect you have for yourself. It took me a long time to understand that reconcilliation at all costs is not necessarily a reasonable goal.
@smargo7884
@smargo7884 11 ай бұрын
I have been working on a letter for years. I make all the effort. I make all the phone calls. I’m divorced from their narcissistic father who spent time in bars and cheated and was physically and emotionally abusing. I’ve been a doormat all my life. I’m so glad I read your post. I will not send a letter. I’m done.
@sheralynfeeney-smith4451
@sheralynfeeney-smith4451 11 ай бұрын
Agreed
@tammyheverling2729
@tammyheverling2729 11 ай бұрын
It’s killing me that I can’t see my grandchildren
@aszabat8226
@aszabat8226 11 ай бұрын
@@tammyheverling2729Same!
@faethe000
@faethe000 11 ай бұрын
Making amends and taking responsibility is how you repair the relationship with your kids that you destroyed.
@PenelopePitstop888
@PenelopePitstop888 Жыл бұрын
Omigosh, just found you and appreciate this excellent video. The years raising my 2 sons were the happiest & most fulfilling of my life. I was an exemplary Mother and they're both very educated & successful. They became more & more emotionally abusive however and when I finally stood up and called them out, I was blocked. Blocked online, blocked from seeing the grandchildren I'd been so close to and it's going on 5 years now. I went through all the phases and made some of the errors you address. It took years of training my brain to compartmentalize this horrible experience & situation. Now, I'm moving to Guatemala at the end of this year to get on with living life. I am open to adopting a child in Guatemala and this is because THIS - being a Mom & Grandmom - is the essence of my truest, deepest spirit & it cannot be denied, only shifted. And so, that is exactly what I'm doing. My other choice was to be a hurt, rejected, miserable and desperate person, bribing and begging, no, no longer.
@barbarabanks5823
@barbarabanks5823 Жыл бұрын
Live your best life❣️
@recoveringsoul755
@recoveringsoul755 Жыл бұрын
I feel like being a mom was my calling too. There are no resources left
@janiecepoush1904
@janiecepoush1904 Жыл бұрын
🙏🏻Parents & Guardians: Bless your Child… To encourage Security & Love ~ AND ~ Ask them starting when they’re Young, “WHAT DOES YOUR HEART NEED?” This will encourage Emotional Maturity & Self Awareness of their own Needs &&& That they Deserve the Best from Others. • Teach Reciprocation & That a Healthy Relationship Includes GIVE & TAKE! • Teach to Forgive … No one is perfect & we are all Learning! • COMPROMISE / Take Turns. • Teach the Red Flags of Narcissism & Coercive Control & that they need to WALK AWAY Fm MALIGNANT PEOPLE! If WE are too Busy for our OWN CHILDREN’s EMOTIONAL NEEDS… A Stranger w/ a nefarious agenda… MAY weasel their way into their Lives/ Psyche! Remember, Even Youthful Adult Children, fall prey to CULTS that MANIPULATE! 🙏🏻💛🔆🕊🍃
@janiecepoush1904
@janiecepoush1904 Жыл бұрын
@@recoveringsoul755 Many Cities have aBig Brother/ Big Sister Program, & A Substitute Grandparent Program! 🙏🏻💛🔆🕊🍃
@CB-ei6ez
@CB-ei6ez Жыл бұрын
An adopted child maybe more grateful ...don't waste time around people who don't value and respect you
@caramcculley4640
@caramcculley4640 11 ай бұрын
My parents were far from perfect but that was never a requirement or expectation. My friends parents were the same, all just muddling along, doing their best. We all loved each other, in spite of ourselves. Millennials were encouraged to label their parents "toxic" and cut them out of their lives, the ultimate thought-terminating cliché, instead of working on acceptance and forgiveness. It's a generational tragedy.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV 11 ай бұрын
So true!!
@katiemccormick8846
@katiemccormick8846 11 ай бұрын
Bingo!
@shashaeighteen
@shashaeighteen 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if this is a learnt theory from somewhere.. misunderstood books, lessons in college etc
@vasilyokless
@vasilyokless 11 ай бұрын
couldn't agree more!!
@dilbertjunkmail
@dilbertjunkmail 11 ай бұрын
I'm starting to believe America has a mind virus that had invaded our children's lives to destroy and challenge reach of us. Whatever happens, live your best life in spite of the hateful TUDE presented by our children.
@nursequeen2100
@nursequeen2100 11 ай бұрын
I don’t think I was put on this planet to be a punching bag for my children. I love them, but if they find happiness in being self-absorbed and abusive toward me, they can do it “over there”…way over there. I have to go on to find meaning in the years I have left.
@isabelfolgado2900
@isabelfolgado2900 8 ай бұрын
Us nurses often get the toxic people in our lives that create the havoc we then ha w to live with.
@isabelfolgado2900
@isabelfolgado2900 8 ай бұрын
Us nurses often get the toxic people in our lives that create the havoc we then ha w to live with.
@isabelfolgado2900
@isabelfolgado2900 8 ай бұрын
Us nurses often get the toxic people in our lives that create the havoc we then ha w to live with.
@isabelfolgado2900
@isabelfolgado2900 8 ай бұрын
Us nurses often get the toxic people in our lives that create the havoc we then ha w to live with.
@isabelfolgado2900
@isabelfolgado2900 8 ай бұрын
Us nurses often get the toxic people in our lives that create the havoc we then ha w to live with.
@lynnschaeferle-zh4go
@lynnschaeferle-zh4go Жыл бұрын
I’m a realist, and it took me 10 years to accept that I was just a tool that got them to success. The other parent didn’t care but practiced alienation because he knew nothing would hurt me more. Ooh! The shame, something must be really wrong with me to be totally rejected by my own kids . I know I won’t see my grandkids until they figure out that I am missing. My kids are so non empathetic and brainwashed and they have a perfect excuse to cut me off. For the last 10 years I was depressed and now I’m bipolar. So now I’m crazy and my ex gets them to believe all kinds of lies. Game over and I move on; I’m not useful anymore.
@darlin5167
@darlin5167 Жыл бұрын
One of the realizations I recently had was that I was making a big mistake by defining my worth based on my daughters treatment of me. Please don't make the same mistake.! They may not find you useful but we can't let that define us!
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
I am so very sorry for all of this. I hope the videos help you. You need to do what gives you peace. God bless.
@michellemonet4358
@michellemonet4358 Жыл бұрын
You might really want to look at.the REASOn/s.you were cut.off... Really look within yourself
@sunnydaye5942
@sunnydaye5942 Жыл бұрын
Omg your story sounds like mine! I got blocked and ridiculed by my adult kids, been a doormat and bank for them and grandkids just to be crapped on, no thank you for anything. Just blocked when I stood up for myself. Grown adults. I save so much money now, no gifts, no loans, no nothing. The grands will be 18 soon enough to come find me. Meanwhile I vote for whomever I want without getting yelled at. The ex can say whatever to them, its lies but I don't hear them anymore so I just don't care. Im done trying.
@marthaokelley9360
@marthaokelley9360 Жыл бұрын
I'm dying inside from the HEARTBRAKE
@4GodsLove
@4GodsLove Жыл бұрын
What's very sad is that society and that dark forces have deliberately started to ruin the "family"!
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
I sadly agree.
@robindelancy7097
@robindelancy7097 Жыл бұрын
Right!!!!
@dannyroberts9807
@dannyroberts9807 Жыл бұрын
No dark forces have come for the family. Narcissistic culture has ruined the family and nearly every American in this country is responsible.
@lisalynch629
@lisalynch629 Жыл бұрын
The “family”challenges the power of the socialist states complete power,the socialist propaganda promoted by the teachers union..
@elliemathews6884
@elliemathews6884 Жыл бұрын
So very true and a society will not last long when families fall apart.
@kellyyork3898
@kellyyork3898 10 ай бұрын
I think we will look back on this era where adult children throw their parents away like they’re old paper cups with horror. I think that a lot of adult children want to come back into your circle only after you’re dead. They want to show up at the funeral, and some of them actually have their hand out--looking for money, inheritance, things like that. What your adult child is doing to you is sad, but I mean really, what is their endgame? Do they want you to fall on the floor at their feet and cry and beg them to come and see you or call you occasionally or allow you to see your grandchildren, which of course, the courts give you no rights to. I wouldn’t do that. I would stop doing that! You need to grieve the loss of your child and any part of your family associated with that child and Move On! If they ever come back around you, talk to them as if they were/are someone you just met on the elevator, and be civil but never let them back into your life on any intimate level. Live your best life during the years that you have left. If you get lonely, get a dog-- they are loyal, loving, and fun. The most important thing is to never leave any of your assets to your adult children who have treated you as if you are a fungus under their fingernails. Leave it to charity, or leave it to your best friend and her children. God Bless all the parents who are suffering.
@jesuswilljudge7296
@jesuswilljudge7296 6 ай бұрын
I'm going through that now with 28 yr old daughter, setting up life insurance, trust, will, leaving it to her twin brother and 10 yr old granddaughter
@jenniferabbo
@jenniferabbo 29 күн бұрын
Bravo
@artmcfarter2678
@artmcfarter2678 Жыл бұрын
My estranged son actually sent me a text stating that one of his conditions for being part of my life was that I give him $ 5000.00 . As much as I love my son, I will not be black mailed. If I have to buy a relationship with him , I do not want it.
@dudzinski324
@dudzinski324 Жыл бұрын
That’s a bit shocking. So sorry you’ve had to endure this abuse.
@EMER-w6l
@EMER-w6l Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! What a jerk!!!🤮
@lisahull6059
@lisahull6059 Жыл бұрын
Good for you! if you would have gave in one time I am sure it would happen again! Just work on yourself and live the best life you can. We aren't getting any younger!
@maureendequesada-yx1ul
@maureendequesada-yx1ul 8 ай бұрын
And you're sure this WAS your son, and not some phishing con criminal that somehow got your number and texted you, hoping his scam would deliver? If you're sure it was, indeed, your son... well then... extortion by your own kid... insert eyeroll here! Ugh! Let's hope he someday grows out of this dishonourable and despicable behaviour.
@ovdman
@ovdman 7 ай бұрын
Wow. That’s just inhumane of him.
@tess8822
@tess8822 Жыл бұрын
No divorce but- kicked to curb. I gave $$, time and sacrificed. That is on me. Never again "lose yourself" in others. You come first or you are a empty bag blowing in the wind of their opinion and they know it. They may say cruel things even make up false memories against you. Hold fast in the truth. Do not budge. Protect yourself. ❤❤
@frederickmuhlbauer9477
@frederickmuhlbauer9477 11 ай бұрын
Great advice I wish I had read it 30 years ago Tess
@kea484
@kea484 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think reconciliation is for me. A narcissistic adult child is best to keep at arms distance. Preserving my own self esteem seems a good goal right now but I found your video very informative and worth listening to.
@r.p.8906
@r.p.8906 Жыл бұрын
It's a genetic and an environmental disease. Can't fight that. Good for you for realizing what is the best for YOU. People need to be informed about what CAN be done and what CAN'T. We can't change the genetic material of the kids.
@lisahull6059
@lisahull6059 Жыл бұрын
My thinking exactly!
@drlorrie1019
@drlorrie1019 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree. I cut mine off and am happier
@lisahull6059
@lisahull6059 Жыл бұрын
AGREED!!!
@deanna8217
@deanna8217 Жыл бұрын
I'm there too. She claimed that her and I both need therapy ( which I have had before). I offered to go WITH her, and even pay for it, since she claims her issues are my fault. She didn't take me up on it. Just told me to not contact her or the grandkids, she even told me not to send them gifts anymore. Her kids especially have become a weapon she can use against me. I'm done. I can't go through this again.
@xx.05
@xx.05 4 ай бұрын
I'm a sibling of an astanged adult child. My parents are fantastic people, my sister was given all the emotional and financial help. My parents would drive over multiple states to help her, they gave her a deposit for a home, looked after her children when she was drunk, bought her a car when she divorced her first husband. My parents walked away because they felt my sister didn't value them. Recently, my father passed away, my sister reached out for the first time in over a decade. She abused us, blaming us for the astrangement, being a victim when she made the choice to cut us out of her life. I hope all the parents out there dealing with estrangement find peace. If you have other children, concentrate on them and give them love.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV 4 ай бұрын
So very sorry for your loss and your situation. I do the videos help you.
@AaronD313
@AaronD313 3 ай бұрын
Child leaves for feeling emotionally neglected, solution- more emotional neglect
@natashabraga4407
@natashabraga4407 3 ай бұрын
I’m the sibling of an estranged adult child as well. I can completely understand your pain. My parents are good people who have always loved us and did the very best that they could for us. My parents would have done just about anything for her, or any of us adult kids, so It’s very difficult for me to understand the ways she believes my parents wronged her and how they are undeserving of her grace. I’m sorry to hear about the loss of your dad. Prayers of comfort and peace for you and your mom.
@pauladix5655
@pauladix5655 2 ай бұрын
​@@AaronD313Not saying I haven't made any mistakes with regards to parenting, but if my 2 mostly estranged adult kids claim I was emotionally or in any way neglectful, then they have even more problems than I am aware of. One thing I know for sure is my kids have never been emotionally or otherwise neglected in their lives from the time they were born to the present time. At least not from my efforts to be the best mom possible & instill in them that they will always have my unconditional love and support. I have done everything possible to show them how much I love them & tried to build their confidence, show them age appropriate affection, and model the values and morals I felt were important to have through their lives. I was very open about expressing my feelings about them, and letting them know they would always have my support and my time. If anything, I am guilty of being over the top in this area, but it was the 90s, the age of hands on parenting, building self esteem, a thousand ways to say I love you, & the helicopter mom, which was me. When I was married to their dad, until he divorced us when they were 15 & 18, for a younger woman who he then had another daughter with, they were loved and privileged by both of us, our daughter moreso than our son, who didn't meet his dad's expectations starting when he was in his early teens. His dad was very critical towards him and he was much better at telling & showing our daughter his love. He was the fun dad for the most part, but he was not good at handling any stress or unplanned issues. He commanded respect by yelling, attacking, & belittling, primarily directed at our son which caused a more distant and strained relationship between them and my playing the role of the peacekeeper & apologizing for his dad's behavior. He was rarely if ever that way w my daughter. She was very negatively impacted when he left and didn't maintain relationships with them., especially when he had a 2nd daughter. I'm sorry you are experiencing this. I'm curious about the experts opinions about how this estrangement age began and what the causes of it becoming increasingly prevelant in today's world, and it seems like the estranged kids are not fearful or have any emotional regrets about the way they are treating the parents who have taught by example unconditional love and support, encouraged family closeness and sensitivity
@jenniferbeardtrusty1671
@jenniferbeardtrusty1671 21 күн бұрын
I'm a mom in this situation. 2 of my daughters say I gave all 3 of them a much loved and closely bonded childhood. My youngest has cut me off.
@nicolebazinet5655
@nicolebazinet5655 Жыл бұрын
I’m 55 years old. I’m the child who’s turned away. My mother verbally abuses me, and my father sits idly by and watches. He’s also participated in the past. There’s usually a very good reason a child would do this. I aam surrounded with beautiful friends who are kind, giving and respectful. Why on earth would a sane person tolerate constant overt abuse and hurt. I’ve been scapegoated my whole life, and I had the confidence to just say enough. Apologies, are that difficult when someone behaves atrociously. Their ego is off the chart. I could never swear, demean or put down someone I care about, and no one should do this, ever. I’m much happier now, and wish them well.
@joyparise5276
@joyparise5276 Жыл бұрын
9th o
@christinaseine4771
@christinaseine4771 Жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry this happened to you. I'm glad you have loving friends and the courage to see what needed to be done. I wish you peace. ❤
@go2therock
@go2therock Жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry for the bad parenting you suffered under. Thank you for sharing your victory of health and finding a way out from under the hurt they inflicted upon you. We are all fallen people, and sometimes we break so badly we perpetuate still more hurt on others. The talk being given here seems to be addressing a different phenomenon, however. These are grown children who are responding to their parents with an overreaction to the normal human failures of being. There is no allowance for struggles and mistakes. The ledger is tipped in favor of unforgiveness and alienation. This is the "kool-aid" of our times.
@gordonause6956
@gordonause6956 Жыл бұрын
@@go2therock maybe....maybe not. Most narcissistic parents would be unable to take accountability for the damage they did to their kids. That's part of the narcissism. They truly cannot see the harm they did. And they truly believe their children "owe" them undying love and devotion. Whether or not they earned it. The truth is, there are just as many narcissistic parents as children....
@go2therock
@go2therock Жыл бұрын
@gordonause6956 I feel for you and stand in agreement with the way you have risen above your upbringing and chosen better. This was your choice, and it was a wise one. The fact is, sometimes parents do a truly wonderful job, but their child chooses to follow a wayward path; and sometimes parents fail terribly, but their child triumphs out of the ashes, as you have demonstrated. However, today, we are living in such a punitive society and an over-diagnosis mania. THAT is doing tremendous harm to relationships as labels are being slapped on one another, crippling our access to grace, hope, and forgiveness.
@ValMartin1776
@ValMartin1776 Жыл бұрын
I have accepted that my daughter doesn't want me in her life, and with that realization, I have found that I am much happier without her in my life. She caused me constant pain and anxiety, so she really did me a favor. There will be no reconciliation from me even if she wants one. I'm done. She's grown and she's on her own. I wish her luck. I love her, but I no longer miss her.
@Murphlind
@Murphlind Жыл бұрын
Your honesty is appreciated. Hard to admit that being away from the constant abuse is sometimes the best thing.
@lisahull6059
@lisahull6059 Жыл бұрын
Wasting our precious time grieving and crying and basically not really living is not going to change things. I’m right there with you. 13 years for me and I’m just now living my best life and I’m happy. There will always be a deep sadness but I’m not letting it control or dictate my life anymore. I completely quit holidays all together. I think this year I might put up a little tiny tree for my puppies. Haha. When this happened to me , I knew no one who was dumped by their kid. Now it’s all too common. A trend. Super sad. We only have 1 life to live and it’s fleeting. Be happy. Live your best life and just be the best version of yourself which is a daily healing process. Give yourself a break. Take care of You !
@sunset9729
@sunset9729 Жыл бұрын
​@lisahull6059 exactly. 20 years for me this month. I ruminated far to long I also didn't realize this happened to women as much as it does 😢 I also realize the narcissist would never watch a video like this. Nor would they care of any self improvement whatsoever .✌️
@patriagirl7674
@patriagirl7674 Жыл бұрын
I have had to ask myself, would I choose to be a friend to a person like this if he/she was not my child? Would I put up with the hate, injustice, and judgment from anyone else? The difficult thing is not to return evil for evil. That only multiplies the evil. The best thing for me is to go on and be thankful God has brought these children into my life for a season. I did the best I knew how. Now, I proceed with the rest of my life doing the next thing God has called me to do, trusting He will bring the people He wants in my life. I continue to pray for my four childrens' repentance and then it is all in God's hands. He has the ultimate control anyway. No more grief. I use that energy to make myself stronger physically, emotionally, intellectually, and relationally.
@patriagirl7674
@patriagirl7674 Жыл бұрын
"When my enemies turn back, they shall fall and perish at Your presence, for You have maintained my right and my cause; You sat on the throne judging in righteousness." ~ Psalm 9:3,4
@chyanneraine
@chyanneraine 9 ай бұрын
Im having a hard time moving past the pain. I stay in bed, cry, letting the depression win. I know I have to pull myself up and just get on with life. Thank you for this video. It helped today.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV 9 ай бұрын
Please try and find hobbies or volunteer work, watch some tv shows that interest you, but most importantly trust God and pray. Maybe find a church with support. God bless.
@tinalarsen6059
@tinalarsen6059 9 ай бұрын
Hi there, I haven't been cut off entirely by my son, 21 years old and my only child, but I have had very limited contact since he moved out 3 years ago. I have been there staying in bed all day, trying to sleep the day away, only to get up to take the dog out, looking and reading about this issue on the net, and then yesterday I found on KZbin this lady talkig about her estranged daughter. It has helped me a lot because I thought I was alone with this strange problem, it does get better though. And now for me is how to talk to my son when I see him again because I have been so sad, unhappy and alone because he couldn't be bothered to visit me, give me a call okay he always ansa my text messages but maybe first the next day. The betrayal I have felt when he has spent Christmas with my siblings in another part of my country, well knowing that I could not afford to go, it's been a nightmare for 3 years. You are not supposed to get angry at your child and make them feel quilty but I think it will be extremely hard not to let him know how I have felt for the past 3 years now. I think it will get better you learn to live without hem in your life and only see them very seldom, I have my little dog and myself, so from now on I will try to not think as much about him as I have done and concentrate on me and my dog and planing what I want to do in my life later. All the best tina
@janicefiamengo993
@janicefiamengo993 8 ай бұрын
I am so sorry to hear that. It shows that you have a heart full of love that you are so sad. I hope it will heal in time.
@BloomByCC
@BloomByCC 8 ай бұрын
Baby steps, focus on one thing you can do to feel better each day. B take a shower, walk around the block or around house, put on a silly song that you really don't want to hear but makes you want to move... Reach out to a parent group, write, pray, anything. This isn't a reflection of you, it's a broken culture.
@MichelleBegin-w7l
@MichelleBegin-w7l 8 ай бұрын
I have 2 estranged daughters and have no idea why. I also have 2 sons, and one of them is now estranged from me...he's the one I helped the most because he is the one who needed my help the most. I am thinking of suicide as this is way too painful. . .. .but I can't do this to my last 2 grandsons. Yet I am constantly crying.
@MarkAnthonyJenkins
@MarkAnthonyJenkins 11 ай бұрын
I am the father of two incredible women, my cherished daughters, both of whom are now in their mid-30s. They made the heart-wrenching choice to distance themselves from me due to my absence during their teenage years. Over the years, I've extended countless apologies and shed numerous tears, yet they have not reached out to wish me a Happy Birthday, acknowledge Father's Day, or connect during major holidays. Consequently, earlier this year, after significant reflection, I made the challenging decision to unfriend them on social media. The constant reminders and the inability to communicate had become overwhelmingly distressing. With the support and advice of many friends and family, I have decided to heed their counsel and shift my focus towards living my own life.
@mykingdomforahorse9256
@mykingdomforahorse9256 10 ай бұрын
Sometimes the emotional loss kids feel can't be "fixed". Trust isn't easy to build when their heart has shut down.
@headlessharry40
@headlessharry40 10 ай бұрын
If you were absent during their teenage years don’t expect to be recognized or reconnect with them. They have a reason to distance themselves for you. Even if you say sorry they don’t have to forgive you. You should continue your life on your own as you are with minimal contact with them as it’ll benefit the both of you
@emilia.7312
@emilia.7312 10 ай бұрын
As previous commenters said, sometimes things like this can't be fixed. In my case my parents are quite ok now but during my childhood and teenage years they were completely emotionally absent. I don't want to have any relationship with them no matter what, even if they would become "perfect" parents now. I don't care about apology or anything like that, it's just the fundamentals they build make it impossible for me to feel anything towards them.
@sashaisaac-young9183
@sashaisaac-young9183 9 ай бұрын
It does not sound like you have ever shown respect for the pain you caused them.
@GenaMcLean-pj3iw
@GenaMcLean-pj3iw 3 ай бұрын
​@@headlessharry40you are an ignorant heartless person. Stay quiet
@cindygiovacchini5426
@cindygiovacchini5426 Жыл бұрын
This session answers so many questions for me. I have been blind sided by my daughters estrangement and frankly, emotional blackmail. Three years ago two things happened in her very successful life. One, she began a relationship with someone who does not share our morals or values, and she began seeing a very young therapist who is of the mindset to only do what feels good, anything else is just guilt. Seeing her father, who is dying of cancer, is apparently not fun enough. I can not see the point in investing in a one sided relationship with her anymore, knowing that if they day should come that I need her, she will not be there.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
I am so very sorry. Prayers for your husband. I do hope the videos help.
@lilasfaves7846
@lilasfaves7846 11 ай бұрын
Sad to hear this, yes I have found some therapist encourage the me me me mindset… please take care of yourself and hope your husband ok ❤️
@Sara-ls3kw
@Sara-ls3kw 10 ай бұрын
I think you know why your daughter is estranged, you just told us: "she began a relationship with someone who does not share our morals or values." You don't like her partner and probably told her as much. Having a young therapist has absolutely nothing to do with this. Unless you have been in counseling with your daughter, you have no idea if her therapist has a mindset of "do what feels good." If your daughter is troubled enough about your relationship she is seeking therapy, you've definitely done something. You blame others and take zero responsibility. This is likely part of the reason she doesn't want anything to do with you.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV 10 ай бұрын
@@Sara-ls3kw are you a therapist?
@Sara-ls3kw
@Sara-ls3kw 10 ай бұрын
@@FamiliesDividedTV Why do you ask?
@debbiemail1
@debbiemail1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr Coleman for a interesting and very watchable video. As the mother of a daughter who estranged herself from her close family (myself, husband and two sisters) I speak from some experience on this topic. I remember the heart ache when it first happened, the hand wringing, the numerous letters of apology I sent, the almost daily torment and how it made me feel like a failure. I then read Sheri McGregor's 'Done With The Crying' and it helped. I also now have months when the emotional pain lifts and I don't think about her in any particular way at all. I decided at some stage to think of her as a wounded bird who couldn't fly. If I saw some such bird on the footpath I'd never say 'Fly bird, birds are supposed to fly" would I? I've replaced my anger with compassion. We live in a brutally unfair world and the only fairness is that no one gets a fairer world. My daughter has made a very painful decision on her part and I respect her decision. As I often think to myself ...she's the one whose missing out on all the love I have to give her. How sad.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
So very well said. Thank you. I hope other of our videos help you. Sorry for your situation.
@SusanaXpeace2u
@SusanaXpeace2u Жыл бұрын
Your daughter is lucky. My mother (or father) have never ever given me any small clue that they would listen to me. My letters went in to the recycling bin, my whatsapp messages went unread. they just back each other up in the belief that they are the victims of me (wanting to raise an issue). I've got the silent treatment from both of them for over 3 years now. I'm so mad now, mad and betrayed and broken hearted. What could have been a 10 minute conversation has turned in to a heart-breaking estrangement that cannot be fixed now. There isn't much advice for when your parents give you the silent treatment. It always seems to be the adult children who go nc. My parents have gone NC
@boubella11
@boubella11 Жыл бұрын
Yes, this is making sense to me. I will be available and make connections with my daughter in love as often as I am able. If it becomes too much tension or stress for me, i will let her know but i will bear up a lot and not wear it on my sleeve. I will be kind and protective of my own emotional health and be gentle with hers as well. I know there has been pain in her life and reasons for her to try to figure out how to heal. I do not accept all the responsibility but do accept some of it. I accept her boundaries and also will accept her open doors.
@marijabu
@marijabu Жыл бұрын
Sending you hugs Debbiemail1. I'm right there with you.
@SusanaXpeace2u
@SusanaXpeace2u Жыл бұрын
@karenlebron-morales8672 yeh, my rational adult knows that but my inner child still hopes that one they they will acknowledge that they hurt me. I know that it's not likely. They have the gift of being able to blame me/somebody for everything and never ever self reflecting. Sometimes I envy them that ability.
@traciaugustyniak4365
@traciaugustyniak4365 11 ай бұрын
I'm 52. And it took me this long to realize it was okay to cut ties with my mother. She was physically and emotionally abusive, manipulative, and deceitful. I never had a voice and what I thought or needed was irrelevant. A difference in opinion with her meant I was selfish. And my father taught me to "Just keep the peace " wich reinforced the people pleasing and being a doormat. I have offered to go to counseling together and was told by her it wasn't worth it. I choose to believe the words coming out of her mouth. I'm done and my brother is in therapy now too. (Which she rolls her eyes at) It has been a one way street but it's her street. "My way or the highway" is one of her favorite quotes. Sometimes kids have to cut ties for their own emotional health.
@GirlofNicky
@GirlofNicky 11 ай бұрын
Sounds familiar. What I gradually learned to do was to say what I would and would put up with,or I would gird my emotional loins to nit let them force their emotions on me ie grey rock. There was a lit of push-pull but eventually they realized they could nit get what they wanted out of me. I learned to be slightly rude & refuse guilt trip talk by saying “I’m not listening to this and hanging up,” Then they’d either get another family member to do that to me. As if I was a little girl who did not know their modus operandi. But I did not give in.
@DeniseElizabeth-l5e
@DeniseElizabeth-l5e 9 ай бұрын
You are of my generation and I agree with you. Physical and mental abuse is unacceptable and I’m sorry you went through that. You were correct in getting away from that. The problem nowadays is people between 13 and 43. There was a change in what they experienced as kids and what they were learning. The younger one is in that group, the worse it is for parents who have NOT done a single “bad” thing. All they do is LOVE their kids but they are being cut off without reason.
@bethanybritz9510
@bethanybritz9510 3 ай бұрын
@@DeniseElizabeth-l5e very good point about the inversion!
@susanfraser1550
@susanfraser1550 3 ай бұрын
I was nodding my head all through your lecture. It deeply resonated with me. My estranged daughter of has gone no contact for half of her lifetime; now into 16th year of estrangement. I'm blocked and ghosted, with no way of even beginning to implement your recommendations and strategies for reconciliation. I've been told I'm toxic, and she never ever wants to repair the relationship. She's told me my 2-3 annual contacts to her via text or letter/card just get deleted/thrown away unopened. I've apologized many times over the past 15 years, taking responsibility for causing her pain and not being available for her when she needed me most (during divorce from her step-dad and while I was ill). But I have no idea if she's even read my apologies. I'll love and miss my daughter deeply for the rest of my days. I am in an ultramarathon, which I'm working on accepting I may never cross the finish line.
@andreadickinson3076
@andreadickinson3076 Ай бұрын
Mathew 6:14 For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.
@1948rambo
@1948rambo 10 ай бұрын
You’re spot on. However, I love my kids but I’m not liking them very much! This is the new culture though. What feels good today. I wonder what their kids will be like towards them??? My radical acceptance is not kissing up to them. They hold their kids over my head like carrots to control me. Nope! I’m out of that game. Healing too!
@HeartAwakeningLove
@HeartAwakeningLove 25 күн бұрын
Met another parent with an adult entitled daughter today at the beach walking the dog : she’s almost 10 years older and further down the road. But experiences and realizations are similar. Stop giving money, reject the guilt and manipulation, live our lives. Time is fleeting.
@milliehummer4713
@milliehummer4713 Жыл бұрын
If the other parent is a sociopathic malignant narcissist it is very difficult to deal with this estrangement. My daughter’s father continually blames me for every problem in our family and is very angry about my going no contact. He was very abusive including physical abuse. Now he takes credit for her professional success. She won’t even speak to me.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
So you left your children?
@lulu-qw8xy
@lulu-qw8xy Жыл бұрын
Your daughter needs a wake up call! So 😞
@Margaret709
@Margaret709 9 ай бұрын
My story, too.
@therocknrollcook
@therocknrollcook Жыл бұрын
This may be the most accurate and relevant video on this topic. Wow, all of this resonates with what we’re experiencing with our son: Cold, distant wokeness has altered his perspective . I’m learning to forgive him for abandoning us, his parents. Forgiveness brings peace. I cannot expect him to change. He is under a spell. We are here if he needs us. But we must let go THANK YOU 😢 ❤😢❤😢❤
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
So glad that it was helpful.
@firehorse9996
@firehorse9996 Жыл бұрын
You sound like someone with Narcissistic Personality Disorder aka "the religious narcissist." Write the words "forgive," "peace" and "wokeness" all you want but the message that comes across is that you perpetually "blame and shame" your child. Also, magical thinking: "He is under a spell", Oh, so typical... how did you fail to raise a rational, well-educated young adult? It's on you. Better to accept the truth.
@SS-qx7nh
@SS-qx7nh Жыл бұрын
If you are calling your son “woke,” I GUARANTEE that YOU are the problem.
@SummerLeigh12
@SummerLeigh12 Жыл бұрын
You are not alone! ❤❤
@5DNRG
@5DNRG Жыл бұрын
Wokeness? That word says a lot about who you are too.
@debdo1960
@debdo1960 9 ай бұрын
There is no chance of a second reconciliation in my case. I did reconcile once only to be lied to and used. The sad part is there is no safe place on the internet without some stranger coming in to say hurtful and insensitive things without knowing the entire circumstances. This only adds insult to injury. So I keep to myself and suffer in silence. Wish there was a in person support group where the estranged children were not allowed. A place that was monitored to not continuously rehash the estrangement, but to help heal and move on. I don't wish to speak ill of my estranged children....I just don't know where to go with the pain and empty hole. I have done alot of work on myself, but holidays, birthdays, and mothers day are difficult to get through. I just need a safe place and friends who live in my vicinity to break the loneliness.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV 9 ай бұрын
So sorry. I hope our videos help you.
@Occupied_South
@Occupied_South 3 ай бұрын
I know of one that I might join it's called parents rejected parents and Sheri McGregor is the leader
@shortmeister4321
@shortmeister4321 Жыл бұрын
I think most of us did the best we could and more than anything, we gave them love. But it hurts like nothing else when they refuse to even talk.
@patticakesintexas
@patticakesintexas Жыл бұрын
Agreed ❤
@jrg4313
@jrg4313 4 ай бұрын
Yep!!
@islandbirdw
@islandbirdw Жыл бұрын
When one divorced parent purposely undermines the other one, parental alienation can occur. I felt the bond had started to weaken between us. I worked toward getting my son a counselor who helped him to process his emotions. We took a bucket list train trip together and we were able to restore a healthy mother son bond. There were infinitely more details but in essence it was just patience diligence and time.
@Angel_eyes___
@Angel_eyes___ Жыл бұрын
I took my youngest prior and during the divorce 17 at the time. Over 6 months. Now i am the evil one. 24 years later? I don't know my grandkids. They are teenagers now. I never hear from them. But the Christmas list always appears and there mother calling to see if i got the stuff on the list . Geez. Now only 25.00 cash each.it hurts but no contact in my birthday. Hhhhmmm but the grandpa gets 100.00's of dollars in gifts from all. I don't want fake words.
@matthewthompson5792
@matthewthompson5792 Жыл бұрын
Love that!
@recoveringsoul755
@recoveringsoul755 Жыл бұрын
​@@Angel_eyes___have them pick up gifts in person and visit. You aren't an ATM machine. Or send them a list of what you want
@jamic6351
@jamic6351 Жыл бұрын
@@Angel_eyes___ Don’t change. Just gradually shift. With FaceTime you can call them and see their progress. It’s bonding. Once removed, but bonding. I take screenshots as we’re talking. Grandson changed unbelievably in 26 months, I have pictures, parents do not……..heh-heh. I have the pictures dated and put in album form, password protected, on the cloud. Things are not going to do it, they’ll out -present you in no time flat. But….rent a two week time share. Buy in the secondary market if you buy at all. Play hard to get. A week for you alone. A week to invite them to join you. Don’t try to outdo them. Create your own version of a new game. It’s like being jilted in a love affair. Living well is the best revenge.
@worldupsidedown1
@worldupsidedown1 Жыл бұрын
@katrinacarson7379 Sorry to hear. I’m alienated from my two grown sons. They disrespect us in part bc we’re willing to give everything while they give us crumbs. If I were you I wouldn’t get the presents for them if they totally ignore your bday. I listened to Jerry Wise’ youtube “normal rules don’t work for abnormal families”. I think it would really help you! God bless!
@sonja897
@sonja897 8 ай бұрын
The first 2 years after my daughter quit speaking to me was very hurtful. I used to stand at the door and wait for her. I no longer do that. I am at peace at not having her in my life. I wish her well but no longer want her back in my life. I have shut the door and moved on. I feel I am better off without her in my life. She was disrespectful and abusive to me. I no longer allow anyone to treat me that way.
@findingdori442
@findingdori442 10 ай бұрын
My son & I were fine until the university he goes to taught him to break away from family who don’t believe what you do. This is a serous epidemic that no one talks about.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV 10 ай бұрын
This is a true statement as some therapists also are saying the same things sadly.
@Sara-ls3kw
@Sara-ls3kw 10 ай бұрын
​@@FamiliesDividedTV I'm confused. You're telling me a professor stands in front of the class and teaches college students to estrange themselves from their parents? Or is it the dean? The college president? I attended a very liberal college not that long ago and not once were students instructed to leave their families. In fact there would be so many complaints, ethical violations, and firing of staff... this bizarre scenario doesn't even sound remotely true. Most universities rely on parents paying tuition or helping with FAFSA forms. This idea of institutionally taught estrangement would be bad for business. This feels more like a conspiracy being posited by troubling but fashionable anti-college, anti-intellectualism folks and being passed on as truth. When education and educators are the enemy, we are in for a scary future as a society. Don't believe everything you hear if it doesn't make logical sense.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV 10 ай бұрын
@@Sara-ls3kw I am confused. I said therapists.
@jordanbetts1572
@jordanbetts1572 10 ай бұрын
What is the dividing belief?
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV 9 ай бұрын
@@jordanbetts1572 to ask this question to Dr. Coleman, please contact him at the info given at the beginning of this video.
@1948rambo
@1948rambo 10 ай бұрын
I’m not walking on eggshells anymore. My son was an awesome son. He married a super sweet covert narcissist. He has been turned into a flying monkey! I saw it happening but didn’t know what it was called. I stumbled onto covert narcissism n it all made sense!!! Everything!
@annfraser8823
@annfraser8823 8 ай бұрын
OMG is a flying monkey a guy who does everything to please a sweet, covert narcissist wife? If it is, then our son is one too 😫 Do they have kids, and what do we do about them?!
@mrskmonster
@mrskmonster Жыл бұрын
I am watching this as an adult child and I just want to share the perspective that, depending on who your child is, they may also be having a very difficult time with this. There are a lot of resources online that say "just walk away" and very few that encourage a more slow, measured approach. And they likely are in a lot of pain and confusion. I'm not estranged from my father in the senae that we do not talk, but there is a major void of emotional intimacy and a heap of unresolved conflict, and I ruminate about it all the time. It's unbearable, honestly. If he took some of the strategies from this video, it would go so far to repair our relationship.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
So very glad it was helpful. I am praying for you and your family. Do not walk away. Anything can be fixed with God. Please view other videos as well.
@mrskmonster
@mrskmonster Жыл бұрын
@@FamiliesDividedTV Thank you. I wouldn't walk away. For all of his shortcomings, he has done so much for me and I love him.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
@@threelittlebirds274 please pray about this. It is not how God wishes our family to be. I do understand it is emotional abuse to you. God himself is an alienated father. Yet He never turns His back on us. He is always there for us.
@mrskmonster
@mrskmonster Жыл бұрын
@@threelittlebirds274 This is a very sad circumstance that I see a lot in our culture at this time. I also have different political views than my parents and it has caused some friction with my mother. (We used to share beliefs and she is surprised that I have changed.) But our love comes first and we basically just avoid talking about politics as to not ruffle feathers. It is sad to me that the tribalism of political views can outweigh the bonds of family. In my world, some of the issues with my family have actually been addressed and resolved this week, something I never thought would happen. My family of origin has not been skilled at repair thus far in my life, so to experience it now has been deeply healing. I don't know your son or what he is capable of in regards to change, but I wish this feeling of reconciliation for anyone. It is peaceful.
@jm1733
@jm1733 Жыл бұрын
​@@FamiliesDividedTVthe relationship between my wife's parents has been broken for more than a decade. We both have prayed for years for God to heal the divide. God has chosen to not act on that request and has done so for the health of our marriage. Her parents didn't understand the leave and cleave concept and instead wanted power and control for life over her and our children. It has been very sad for us but I know God has blessed us by not answering that prayer because we've watched every relationship her parents have with extended family erode away because of her parent's lack of ability to forgive and reconcile. Her parents are completely incapable of admitting any fault for all of these broken relationships where they are the common denominator. It has brought me to tears knowing they have missed out on so many wonderful memories because of their bitterness and outright contempt they have for all who have "offended" them in any way. My oldest daughter, their first grandchild, is now a legal adult and chooses not to answer requests from her grandparents because of her own experiences observing their obvious refusal to forgive others who won't play their game and submit to their control. My MIL has a long history of trying to divide families and marriages and is also a master at controlling her submissive husband who has been virtually castrated since their wedding. MIL cannot stand the idea of a man leading his wife and she despises the fact that my wife was convicted to accept God's order of marriage. This broken relationship continues to burden my heart even though the split has been the best thing for my marriage and family. God brought us to the place of humility and willingness to reconcile many years ago but my in-laws despise us for the very first time they didn't get what they wanted.
@KandyCard
@KandyCard 9 ай бұрын
After listening to this, I have no interest in reconciliation. I am not willing to take all the blame for my daughters distorted perception of our relationship.I am not going to take responsibility for things that I did not do.
@andria9746
@andria9746 11 ай бұрын
Not sure how I’m just now finding you sir but this video is worth gold! This is thousands of dollars of my therapy all wrapped into one! You being Christian just seals the deal! Thank you so very much! I know I made horrible mistakes but glad I’m seeing myself as an imperfect human as well. Blessings! ❤❤❤
@privatez6967
@privatez6967 7 ай бұрын
Hey, how did you find out Joshua is a christian ?
@shanmcdonough2933
@shanmcdonough2933 Жыл бұрын
I didn't come around until my 30's - nothing against my parents- I was just self absorbed - my brother said when we were younger "our parents are just people" - no super powers - just trying to live a good life - they did a good job - sacrificed much - they probably got hurt by their children more then they ever caused (unintentionally) - sometimes you have to let things goooo - life is short - glad we were able to have the good times we did - they are both gone now - they were better people than I ever have been - I now strive to be more like them - perfect - nope - just treat others they way you want to be treated - boundaries are for everyone- respect them
@shanmcdonough2933
@shanmcdonough2933 Жыл бұрын
Everthing comes down to EXPECTATIONS.
@andria9746
@andria9746 11 ай бұрын
I really appreciate your insight on that. Truly ❤
@Dee-y6j
@Dee-y6j 7 ай бұрын
And then they were gone forever
@MarianR1111
@MarianR1111 Жыл бұрын
It seems that working toward a reconciliation means living with constant pain. I’ve had 13 years of it, now my first grandchild is adding to the pain. I’m smeared by my son to everyone, so there are no get-togethers, no holidays or birthday celebrations. It’s preventing me from living my best life. It almost feels better to go away and live my own life. It’s truly a nightmare.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
So sorry for your situation. I hope you can talk and work things out. These videos can help you.
@MarianR1111
@MarianR1111 Жыл бұрын
@@FamiliesDividedTV Yes I am going to take your advise, write the letter as you suggest, then move on. I just can’t live the rest of my life this way. Thank you.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
@@MarianR1111 many prayers!
@CindySmith-lx9qz
@CindySmith-lx9qz Жыл бұрын
That is soooo hard! It’s unimaginable pain
@MarianR1111
@MarianR1111 Жыл бұрын
@@CindySmith-lx9qz Yes, thank you for understanding. If I had been a terrible parent, this might be easier for me to understand. Truly a overshadows my entire life. But I’m seriously focusing on writing a new chapter for my future at 62!
@b.d.1978
@b.d.1978 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, Dr. Coleman. For the first time in 2 years plus, I was able to feel relaxed, knowing that even though I made many mistakes as most parents have, I am normal. The generation that has been raised may have problems of entitlement and lack of empathy. I'm not alone. Your video gave me hope.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV 5 ай бұрын
So glad that it helped. I do hope other of our videos help as well.
@AuburnGrad2008
@AuburnGrad2008 5 ай бұрын
Why does Dr Coleman have comments disabled on his main channel?
@bibikhan9825
@bibikhan9825 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, Dr. Coleman. Your videos on estrangement have brought some clarity to being alienated by my only child. It caught me by surprise when it started about 5 years ago. If people died from a broken heart, I would have died the first time he cut me off. When it happened again a few months ago, I felt that I must have been an awful mother and therefore a terrible person, which really affected my sense of self. Listening to your talks have helped me regain some perspective-no, I’m not a terrible person by any stretch of the imagination. I may not have been the best mother (after all, I was a single parent), but I was the best mother I could be given my particular circumstances. As you point out, the moral code that underpin families and society has given way to a culture of individualism. This has led to the fracturing of families and caused much hurt and grief to those of us who adhere to the old ways and values. Thank you again.
@tinalarsen6059
@tinalarsen6059 9 ай бұрын
Dear you, I'm a single mother always was with only one child. I am sure you have been a great mum. Single mums are no different from other parents. I would even go so far as to say that Single mums or Single dads are some of the best parents in the world. We only have ourselves to rely on.
@1timeslime971
@1timeslime971 Жыл бұрын
Forgiveness…..Love doesn’t keep records of wrong…love ALWAYS HOPES, ALWAYS trusts, ALWAYS perseveres…..love is never self seeking….you see….the problem is they ONLY LOVE SELF….they don’t love their parents…..It’s broken my heart, but I love HER, SO I don’t give up, Iwill never stop hoping that God changes her heart, mind, and soul….
@stefniehatzimichael209
@stefniehatzimichael209 3 ай бұрын
Amen❤
@jenniferlette7457
@jenniferlette7457 5 күн бұрын
Amen
@victoriator8863
@victoriator8863 11 ай бұрын
Parents' feelings also change. Even if by some miracle children come back there won't be trust in your heart let alone unconditional love. The feeling of betrayal is never forgotten. The adult children happily boast to each other how they mercilessly cut off their "narcissistic" parents out of their lives and everybody applauds them. They seem to have no idea that they lost their parents emotionally forever and if they suddenly decide to come back their parents can say: "I don't know you anymore". Wouldn't it be fair?
@g.s.5868
@g.s.5868 11 ай бұрын
trust , no way... mine tried to steal my life savings before ghosting ... bank informed me on time of huge amounts transferred...
@SN-sz7kw
@SN-sz7kw 11 ай бұрын
Though fairness is an issue- I think it’s really about if you want them in your life, regardless. Everyone has to decide what they are willing to compromise on. No shame in that.
@jeanneromaine3146
@jeanneromaine3146 Жыл бұрын
It's been 24 years since my son has spoken to me. I've cried a river. Most days I don't even think of him. 😊
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
I am so sorry for your situation. I do hope our videos help you.
@prayerworks11
@prayerworks11 Жыл бұрын
Going on 6 yrs for me. I don't even message happy birthday to him, as he never responds to anything.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
@@prayerworks11 so very sorry for your situation. I do hope these videos help you.
@melindaunknown6411
@melindaunknown6411 Жыл бұрын
@@prayerworks11I bet he was waiting to see a message from you. Now he is probably wondering why there wasn’t one.
@Bluebell117
@Bluebell117 Жыл бұрын
@@melindaunknown6411If he doesn’t send any messages or respond to yours for a long time - why would you keep sending messages … it’s far too hurtful to just keep speaking to thin air 😢
@bethharvey5170
@bethharvey5170 26 күн бұрын
This feels so enabling- my daughter has always used me as a punching bag, has blamed, accused me of ridiculous things. She has been diagnosed with Bipolar, BPD, and anxiety. The silent treatment started when I set a hard boundary about not getting involved with her fights between her and her brother, as they are both adults now. I’m enjoying the peace and quiet now, as she engages in projection, gas-lighting and manipulation. There comes a time to let go through radical acceptance.
@jbrise7560
@jbrise7560 Жыл бұрын
Great info sir, good to know we are not alone. Just can’t believe how upside down things have become and how cold this new generation is.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
I am so glad it was helpful. It is the way of this generation it seems.
@Dina-ng9gf
@Dina-ng9gf Жыл бұрын
Spot on Dr. Coleman! I believe it comes down to these adult children having met all their needs from you and now they want to discard you because now you’re a liability to them. Finally, they want to do this without feeling guilt so they fabricated an abuse story from the time you demanded them to clean their room..
@r.p.8906
@r.p.8906 Жыл бұрын
yes!!
@marygiffrow995
@marygiffrow995 Жыл бұрын
​@@r.p.8906so you just plan to blame your child and not take any responsibility. Looks like we know where this behavior was learned maybe
@lisahull6059
@lisahull6059 Жыл бұрын
Ok I agree. I did way too much for my kids. I was majorly abused when I was growing up so I went way over board being too nice in fear I would pick up my dads habit. They ended up not respecting me and now I wish I would have knocked the shit out of them because I’m being punished like I did. Owell. I moved to the mountains and I hardly ever leave my house and now my family is all the wild animals I have made friends with. I even have deer bringing me their spotted little fawns. I am happier now than ever once I accepted the fact I’m not wanted in my child’s life. I spent too many years crying. With the time I have left , I’m going to be happy !!
@robertaharris3481
@robertaharris3481 Жыл бұрын
I literally have never heard anything more true than this information. I wrote a letter stating I would listen absolutely no responding but listen. It did nothing. I am crushed 😔 my daughter and my grandkids meant so much to me.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
So sorry for your situation. No immediate response may not take place. Trust God and stay strong!
@beaglerescue5281
@beaglerescue5281 Жыл бұрын
Children today may see the amends letter as weakness in my opinion.
@rebeccaspadino2907
@rebeccaspadino2907 9 ай бұрын
@@beaglerescue5281YES. And, they won’t respond if you put the ball in their court.
@sandradahl6770
@sandradahl6770 11 ай бұрын
It hurts either way...leave or stay. Stay hurts forever but leaving finally brings some peace.
@11080698
@11080698 Ай бұрын
Right!
@akosari2535
@akosari2535 Жыл бұрын
I really love what you are saying. "Fairness--that ship has sailed." I had a very close relationship with my mom and dad and we did have that fairness. They were able to share with me their emotions and I with them. We had exactly that fairness of which you speak in all its aspects. There was reciprocity and the knowledge that no matter what we would work it out. Sometimes though when I was upset they just listened and comforted---and "threw fairness out the window." I am certainly so flawed and maybe once a year I just needed to be a three year old unfortunately. My parents were also not perfect. My dad was on the autism spectrum and unfortunately my mom parent-ified me on two issues that gave her extreme anxiety and that was not appropriate. To conclude: the whole thing and the work involved and patience on both sides was so worth it. Working through the hard times was so incredibly rewarding. It is great to have your parents in your life.
@carolyndaniele7871
@carolyndaniele7871 8 ай бұрын
I cannot even watch the video as the holidays have just passed another year of being ghosted by my family. Thank you to all of you who have shared your stories. It makes me feel not alone. They will never want to know us and how much we did for them and we have to accept that and let them go.
@danaendelaney4549
@danaendelaney4549 5 ай бұрын
Watch the video. It made my decision clear as a bell. Lots of good stuff in the video.
@AaronD313
@AaronD313 3 ай бұрын
Did you listen or emotionally neglect like my parents. Destroyed my self esteem
@jenniferabbo
@jenniferabbo 29 күн бұрын
"what we did for them" is unconditional, then, now and in future...that was our job. We did such a good job, they have no need for us. Tough aye, 🎉
@sharonwall9188
@sharonwall9188 8 ай бұрын
I’m a retired Social Worker, and I ask, where are the rules for the children?? Inflicting pain on someone else, whatever the generational excuse, is not to be legitimized!! This is a way to help parents beg their children to love them and they will never complain. Not Fair??? Not the way parents should be treated. Where are the rules for the ADULT children?? Because they may be narcissistic, parents just grin and bear it? If we have to cut ties to maintain dignity and self respect, so be it. Help parents with the grief of losing their child. You should be insisting the children deal with their issues for the grandchildren and the modeling of disrespect towards a parent which will backfire on them later. This is giving in!!
@NancyPittman-lc3ey
@NancyPittman-lc3ey 8 ай бұрын
Well said. In my case I am grateful that there are no grandchildren involved...I think.
@deborahdean8867
@deborahdean8867 3 ай бұрын
I've been saying the same thing. Children even while still minors have social responsibility to the family. Simply put, your parents took care of you when you were in need or vulnerable and kids need to do the same AND show respect. These trolls keep insisting estranged parents MUST be guilty of horrible abuse.
@82lucysue
@82lucysue 2 ай бұрын
Indeed
@hopehunter8237
@hopehunter8237 Ай бұрын
​@deborahdean8867 i am 37 years old and have been until 3 months ago, dropping everything when she asked going to her house to clean and do enything she needs on my days off. She refuses to talk about her bad behavior. 2 years ago she called me and after telling me for 30 years that nothing had happened told me the pedophile had called to ask for amends. I have been afraid of touch since then, and mental help was for others, not me. She said sorry i told you and refused to talk about it again. She was scheduled for surgery so i bit my tongue throught 2 year recovery. Then i tried to tell her how it effected me. I have been cut off. "She did her best." 😢she has lost all rights to be "mother" her name if i ever talk to her again.
@saythankyou111
@saythankyou111 Ай бұрын
It’s from the school union cult, blame parents because you don’t have the Hollywood tv life.☠️👺
@cherylstigers4881
@cherylstigers4881 11 ай бұрын
Last time I talked to my son was 9/9/09. I’ll never cry another tear over him. He got married and his wife is a narcissist, everything was my fault. We live in a small town, and the people talked about my husband and I. I gave up going anywhere , I felt like the scum of the earth! I forgave him,for me. I never want a relationship again, I’ll never be treated like that again. Don’t know the grandkids, but that’s ok. I want to enjoy the rest of my life!
@bf6048
@bf6048 11 ай бұрын
My son married a year ago and cut me out of his life bc I will not allow disrespect from his wife. We were very close and I raised him as a single mom. His wife is a narcissist and does not want me involved at all in their lives. It’s taken me a year but I’ve finally picked myself up and moved on. I will not lower myself to allow disrespect to keep her happy. He was raised in a Christian home. Honor your father and mother. He will someday see the light. If not he will never have me in his life. I’ve accepted that. I wish him happiness and a long successful marriage. I pray for them both daily. My heart has been shattered but I’ve picked up the pieces and focus on the son that respects and loves me. God has blessed me in many ways. Our society has so turned away from traditional values it’s no wonder our homes are destroyed.
@SusanOltmans
@SusanOltmans 10 ай бұрын
@@bf6048 stop telling yourself it’s because you were a single Mom. It isn’t honey. The same has happened to us. You were wise to move on so quickly. It’s such a bizarre situation to find yourself it. I would have bet every dime of every dollar I’ve ever seen that we would never walk thru this situation. But here we are. Tired of waking on eggshells always knowing no matter how careful you had been, no matter how you watch every word, no matter what acts of kindness you have shown, no matter what you had done out of genuinely wanting to connect it would be picked apart and turned against you. We refuse to live that way. Tired of the rug being jerked out from under us. So we build life with the lovely folks around us who are open to love. God bless you
@tinadoughty925
@tinadoughty925 9 ай бұрын
Very well said
@tamararutland-mills9530
@tamararutland-mills9530 8 ай бұрын
My son married an illegal alien with NPD, who alienated him from his family. I understand your pain, and believe you did the right thing respecting his decisions and focusing on your own healing. I pray for my son and daughter-in-law, but that’s all I can do.
@michelleleeschaeffer3482
@michelleleeschaeffer3482 Жыл бұрын
If you love miss, and hurt in your heart by your child’s estrangement, you are not a narcissist. I promise you.
@teacherlisa163
@teacherlisa163 Жыл бұрын
Unless the Narcissist is pretending or lying which they often do.
@Mica-e4p
@Mica-e4p 11 ай бұрын
@@meleshenko3767 You really don't have anything to offer do you? What would these adult children say about their parents? There are two sides to every story. Nice grift you have going. What did you used to be in, multi-level marketing?
@Mica-e4p
@Mica-e4p 11 ай бұрын
@@meleshenko3767 You really aren't very astute are you? I'm a former paralegal, earned A's in college, won my mock trial, changed Calif law for high-risk crime victims. Knock off the man-splaining. I grew up in a very violent, abusive family. Father was a CPS social worker and mother was a teacher. My father was a closeted gay man. He threatened to murder us day in and day out. It was so bad, a quiet Italian widower with immaculate gardens next to us told me when I was a girl that he wished my father were dead. We kids frequently starved. I got a job cleaning at a veterinary hospital and feeding animals to earn money to feed we kids. I again give you a grade of: F. You are short on empathy, have poor reading comprehension skills, and think felony crimes against children are trivial. They aren't. "There is no fool like an old fool." Stay in touch with the good rabbi. He needs to translate my posts to you, since it's over your head. I am 61 yrs old.
@bridgetwalker5249
@bridgetwalker5249 11 ай бұрын
@@Mica-e4p I see you in this, i was from a dysfuntional family and experienced many things i didnt want my children to experience, but unknowingly there were others in my family that were narcasists and lied to my children to watch them suffer emotionally. Ive cut them off but too late unfortunately. They have damaged one of my children and my heart aches for her and her family i rarely get to see. She thinks its all my fault and some of it is. The part where i wore rose tinted glasses for so long til i had to admit the truth of what these awful people had done by their lies/halftruths . It caused me a mental breakdown. They will not accept any responsibilities for their lies. They are true narcasists, very sick people. I was fooled by them for so long, how can i blame her for believing them to be good people... I cant... She has been misled about me, just as i was about their pretence of wanting to help her. I have to accept it and grieve the estrangement. It is an open wound which i think will never heal because i doubt my daughters wound will only happen by a miracle... Its her wound that was inflicted by these insidious people that hurts me the most.
@g.s.5868
@g.s.5868 11 ай бұрын
so what happened to you? sexually abused or something?@@Mica-e4p
@V3012bkind
@V3012bkind Жыл бұрын
I was a stay home mom for 20 years the main caregiver for the family. My kids were my world big mistake. I stroked at 42 in the bin permanently disabled. I have managed to stay out of a nursing home and live independently on my own. No contact with three grown children for 20+ years. I no longer wait I have made a new family that is not blood related. Most of my female friends are disabled and mothers. All of the children of God no contact and don’t seem to care that their mothers struggle. There is no changing the reality. The pain has subsided. Mostly, the memories of my children have faded. It’s easier when you have no memories left of them and you no longer think of them. I’m grateful for your channel.
@patriciaarbuthnot9618
@patriciaarbuthnot9618 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dr. Coleman ... I have more clarity as to what is the best for me. My two sons have destroyed the bridge that I have crossed ... I turned back to see about rebuilding the bridge, BUT ... NO it's best I just move forward ... I am resilient and at the age of 74 I fully plan on spending the rest of my life respecting myself and enjoying doing the things that "I" want to do and not just pretend with them waiting for another bridge to crumble.
@frederickmuhlbauer9477
@frederickmuhlbauer9477 11 ай бұрын
God bless Patricia I pray that you find great happiness
@bertagraaff3429
@bertagraaff3429 9 ай бұрын
Dr. Coleman, You are an answer to my prayers. All throughout my childhood, I just wanted to be a Mom. I’ve been struggling for years about all of this. “Maybe it’s this, or maybe it’s that.” It’s been heartbreaking. BUT, within minutes you have explained everything so clearly & perfectly. I can’t ThankYou enough. Everything you’ve said makes complete sense. Three to five years ago, I might not have been ready. I feel as though I can handle this now. I actually feel a peaceful strength, that I haven’t felt in decades. ThankYou kind sir. May the Lord richly bless your 2024. ThankYou, ThankYou, ThankYou! You have literally saved my life.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV 8 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful. I hope other of the videos here are helpful as well.
@pennyk1943
@pennyk1943 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I guess you read my soul today and I got this in my feed. My beautiful, smart daughter decided ( after seeing a therapist for anxiety) to cut ties from us, specifically me . She’s talking to dad because he pays a great deal of her bills. We gave everything to her, I never had most of what she’s had, physically or emotionally. It’s very hard for us. I blame the friends she’s made the last few years and the “woke” therapist.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
So sorry for your situation. I do hope other of our videos help.
@giniaa2707
@giniaa2707 Жыл бұрын
I relate to much of what you shared. We have to value ourselves, even if they don't.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
@@giniaa2707 totally agree!
@glowjana2898
@glowjana2898 Жыл бұрын
I so hear you sister! Only that mine is turning to her remarried father who was always absent in her life! It hurts!
@bingersinger1517
@bingersinger1517 Жыл бұрын
Does she treat both parents the same? My husband gets favored parent status…conversations he keeps from me, invitations to spend time with the only grand! He sends $$$ and pressures me to stop spending. This is compounding my pain as he is reinforcing their belief that I am a bad mom and he needs to protect them from me. I live everyday knowing he agrees/reinforces their lies about me. He is compounding the abuse, so now My 43 year old marriage is a source of turmoil.
@Cindy-yq1cy
@Cindy-yq1cy Жыл бұрын
As a SURVIVOR of Parental Alienation that occurred during a Brutal Divorce from their father- time & learning to Love, Trust & Respect myself has been the best healer.
@tamararutland-mills9530
@tamararutland-mills9530 8 ай бұрын
My faith in God and in good and in healing has helped me.
@vickieellis6876
@vickieellis6876 Жыл бұрын
My 40 yr old son told me , in his generation , friends are more important than family. Haha! Than why did he depend on me for help, when he needed help when he got in trouble. Where are his friends.? I told him , friends come and go. Your family is always there. But Im tired of the bull. I am detaching with love. I stopped focusing on how ungrateful he is. Im moving on.
@cathybrundage114
@cathybrundage114 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your excellent insights on the painful state of parent/child estrangement. We are weary & fatigued from walking on eggshells and always being criticized for well-meaning gestures. After much therapy, reflection & prayer, we have decided to love our estranged children from a distance & to focus our devotions on the people who love us and want to have a mature relationship with us. The forces of our dysfunctional culture encourages young people to be self-centered & selfish. Harsh as it may sound, we are happier without them in our lives. Yes the ten year estrangement of our adult children is heartbreaking, but their absence Has brought us peace without bitterness or a desire for reconciliation. Sometimes acceptance of situations over which we have no control is also a way to handle difficult adult children.
@SusanOltmans
@SusanOltmans 10 ай бұрын
I understand exactly what you are saying. It appeared time with our grandchildren was being used as a club. Now they are here, then the moment we began bonding they were jerked away. No problem whatsoever with the other child and that family, just the one. We finally realized that we absolutely could not go through that cycle one more time and come out mentally intact. The worst is when there is no one you can talk to about it. You learn quickly that those who have never walked this road will ALWAYS tell you , “oh just keep trying. Just keep being nice. Don’t let go of hope, it will all turn around.” That false hope will crush your soul! If reconciliation happens that will be most heartily welcomed….in a breath….with all that has gone before forgiven. We continue to love our child. But we have learned we have to move on. The months spent in tears every day, literally, got us nowhere. That takes years of recovery. My dear I just wanted you to know you are heard and understood. Hold your head high and live a happy life copiously spreading love to those who are open and receptive. May God abundantly bless you with many many friends.
@kathrynn3936
@kathrynn3936 Жыл бұрын
I’m agreeing with a lot of what you’re saying. I’m not estranged from my adult children but I do feel alienated. It seems everything must be in their terms. I feel like I ‘am walking in eggshells’ with them! This isn’t healthy either! I’m the one making all the sacrifices so to speak, to get them to spend time with me! I feel like they are still children not adults. And they seem very selfish.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
So very sorry for your situation. I do hope our videos help.
@uptownlady1278
@uptownlady1278 11 ай бұрын
That’s the way it starts at first kathrynn3936 and then maybe a letter. With me it started exactly like what you described is going on with you.
@mountain10
@mountain10 11 ай бұрын
@@FamiliesDividedTVhow are we to “counter” these personalities? Son brainwashed by spouse, limited contact with him and my young grandson!!! This is SO wrong and destroying families! DEVASTATING!🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV 11 ай бұрын
@@mountain10 There are several videos here to help understand.
@SSmith-mx8mo
@SSmith-mx8mo 11 ай бұрын
I'm going through the same thing. Not estranged but alienated and on top of that her husband told me if he wanted to he could sever our relationship totally. I am heartbroken.
@CindySmith-lx9qz
@CindySmith-lx9qz Жыл бұрын
Everything said is sooooo true! It’s terribly scary that there are new rules to being a good parent. How frightening that kids shouldn’t have to feel any type of guilt or remorse for being so cruel to cut ties with their family. Every time I think there is a way to go around “not making my kid feel guilty” by showing my despair- I realize it’s totally true. If I ever want to see my son again or my 2 grandchildren, I have to make them feel at ease when I’m dying inside. It’s a cruel cruel system but very true. Thanks for making it so crystal clear. Tough to swallow though😢
@zenaidacarroll215
@zenaidacarroll215 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
So very glad it was helpful.
@michellemonet4358
@michellemonet4358 Жыл бұрын
Kids do not owe parents anything. Ive called a few rabbis on the phone when I was contemplating the very difficult choice of going "no contact" with my mom. They both.validated my choice and pointed out that even the "Honor Thy Father and Mother" quote from the Bible is bunk. The child did not choose to be brought here and also deserves *honoring* by the parent.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
@@michellemonet4358 the bible is the truth whether you or anyone else believes it or not.
@michellemonet4358
@michellemonet4358 Жыл бұрын
@@FamiliesDividedTV haha. Truth? Yours maybe
@margaretpare8206
@margaretpare8206 11 ай бұрын
As ive said before this is all new to me. Im not sure anyone can be a "perfect " parent. I know certainly i was not. But shes had more than 20yrs to bring this up. But today I was thinking why do i want her back? Other than being my daughter, what does she do for me? As a person. She would not be my friend. She yells at me, her husband screams at me, they laugh at me why i tell them some of my thoughts or feelings. They are constantly telling me im wrong. The only reason they talk to me is because they need me to watch the boys. They neglected my birthday this year and mothers day. Even before this all happened. She has done this in the past, she's been a pouty girl since she was a toddler. But this time she taken it to a new level.
@RiceaRoni354
@RiceaRoni354 11 ай бұрын
My second husband did those same things. I don’t miss him.
@jenniferabbo
@jenniferabbo 29 күн бұрын
Well, bugger her. Has is occurred you may be enabling their abhorrent behaviour?
@quik100
@quik100 9 ай бұрын
The truth is that these neglectful adult children do not want to be burdened by keeping up a relationship that bores them. I don't get much out of a relationship with them either. It's my grandchild that i miss. Having to "beg" to see him is becoming harder to do. Walking on eggshells all the time is getting more difficult. Would i pursue a relationship with a non relative if they treated me in such a way? No i would not.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV 9 ай бұрын
So sorry for your situation. I hope our videos help.
@FirstLast-zw8ip
@FirstLast-zw8ip 8 күн бұрын
If it helps you at all, I walked on eggshells until I was cut off completely, but it was long enough for at least my oldest grandchild to love and remember me, so it was worth it for me. They are now of age and able to contact and drive to see me on their own.
@claireryan1404
@claireryan1404 Жыл бұрын
Seriously... If I had my time again there is NO WAY I would have had children. I couldn't have loved my children more. Gave them 100% of all I had and all I was. There is no way I can break through poisonous parent alienation with the Father who was abusive and neglectful. The way I see this I'm not crawling to adult children who threaten me with violence. I have accepted their hateful judgement of me and have walked away. The best I can do now is pray for them.
@k.popper2620
@k.popper2620 Жыл бұрын
It's painful to say out loud, but you know what if I had to do it all over again - I would not have had children either. I gave them absolutely everything. I'm done with being hurt.
@honeyfurfarm2182
@honeyfurfarm2182 Жыл бұрын
The fact that you view it that way says a lot. My mom said that she would go back and not have had us if she could. That's incredibly hurtful to a child. She said that to me when I was 12 years old and my sister was 5 and still remembers her saying that.
@claireryan1404
@claireryan1404 Жыл бұрын
Hello Honey Yes I fully understand how hurtful it must have been to hear those words (that you were not wanted) from your Mother. I need to ask the question..... Are you abusing insulting and threatening your Mother ? Clearly not. What I said about how I feel needs to be understood in the context of my lived experience of being in an abusive marriage. Removing myself after ensuring the children were safe and preparing for university. During their childhood my ex husband encouraged my children to disrespect me and abuse me. I became an unpaid maid. I stayed until I knew my children could look after themselves. There is nothing I can do to change my children's behaviour towards me. It's very painful to live through this alienation. All I can do is let go and let God sort it out. It's my Eldest daughters 40th birthday in a couple of weeks. I have bought a lovely pearl necklet and as every birthday I will send flowers chocolates and a card. I expect as usual she will threaten me by saying she will have a restraining order placed on me. It's all too crazy. I'm only human. If I had of known as a young woman that this would be my fate I certainly WOULD NOT have put myself in this position.
@UpsideDown853
@UpsideDown853 Ай бұрын
@@honeyfurfarm2182I know this is late, but I commend your awareness. You were right in being hurt. That behavior is vile and is disrespectful on many levels. You don’t have to accept abuse ✨
@triciaromano6316
@triciaromano6316 10 ай бұрын
My husband and I have been completely BLOCKED out in every way.😢. We were so close. I honestly didn’t see it coming.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV 10 ай бұрын
I am so sorry for your situation. I hope these videos help you.
@judymiller5154
@judymiller5154 10 ай бұрын
same here. I pray daily and send birthday and Christmas cards (which aren't returned, but may go in the trash.) All because we couldn't agree to co-signing a loan to cover his credit card debt??? A mid-thirties, married, employed home-owner!!!
@Survivorgirl2019
@Survivorgirl2019 8 ай бұрын
You're lucky to have your husband a lot of people go through this alone so at least look at it that way maybe that it could be worse. I'm not undermining your pain I totally get it. I am a single person with stage 4 cancer and my daughter hasn't talked to me in a year
@jrg4313
@jrg4313 4 ай бұрын
Same with me......completely blindsided with disowning me. Never saw it coming.
@stefanielorimer9693
@stefanielorimer9693 3 ай бұрын
same here - just like that
@rnr2304
@rnr2304 11 ай бұрын
My oldest said "go live your life" Amazing. Try it.
@anneiconex1473
@anneiconex1473 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe l found this video. I've been suffering for 7 years. I don't have the money for counseling so l've been suffering alone.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
So very glad that you did! There are many more videos here for you and more to come. God bless!
@pisceananarchyvortex7223
@pisceananarchyvortex7223 Жыл бұрын
There is SO much free help for this on the internet!
@cheralyse1352
@cheralyse1352 Жыл бұрын
I'm so grateful for this video. You have given voice to my lonely ruminations and broken heart which seems not to change with time. You don't like to add NPD or BPD into the mix, but the episodic cut-offs of not only me, but others in her life became her way of dealing, getting revenge, deflecting blame, along with her altered memory of reality are nearly impossible blocks to reconciliation. In any case, I thank you for validating this cruel place in which I find myself stuck. Maybe I can "let it be" and salvage what's left of my life, do for me, find peace.
@elizabethy2912
@elizabethy2912 Жыл бұрын
I'm right there, too. I realized this is psychological torture. I had to kill hope, bc I'm NOT living on the Hope that she's going to finally reach out!! I'll always love her, and miss her horribly, but I have to move on, and I'm giving myself that gift of accepting her choice, and living my life from that platform.
@contiflex
@contiflex Жыл бұрын
It's taken over 4 years to come to terms with the fact that our 43 year old daughter hates us, thinks we're vile and worse, all because we spoke to her ex to arrange seeing our granddaughter. We never took sides. We've moved on and living our lives without the hate and nastiness from her and now never want to see her again. We feel so much better for coming to that decision.
@mj-np9sy
@mj-np9sy 6 ай бұрын
You went behind your daughters back to speak to someone she probably wish she had no relation with at all and its her fault
@contiflex
@contiflex 6 ай бұрын
@@mj-np9sy we did not go behind her back, she lost custody of her child because of her abusive behaviour and, yes, it is all her fault.
@ValBarber-by1sd
@ValBarber-by1sd 8 күн бұрын
@@mj-np9sythe daughter should have allowed her parents to know her child “through her”, that way they wouldn’t have been tempted to go through the dad.
@theMDMentor
@theMDMentor 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this TRULY key insight: We now live in a culture where [often] the only thing that keeps a child in contact with a parent is whether or not that relationship makes them feel good. It may not be 100%, but it is pervasive.
@NancyPittman-lc3ey
@NancyPittman-lc3ey 8 ай бұрын
So true
@DHW256
@DHW256 Ай бұрын
The "parental alienation" in our house was in reverse: Mom was the most divisive, most difficult, most hateful narcissist I've ever known. No doubt there are worse parents out there, but there are many times Mom should have been put into a straight-jacket and thrown into an asylum. Our relationship with Mom was her way or the highway. The absurdities she committed against all her kids, especially her scapegoats, would make your skin crawl. I finally walked away at 46, after decades of contemplating.
@debramalmos
@debramalmos 9 ай бұрын
Let them go. Honor their right to choose, and honor your own right to choose peace. It hurts like hell, but TIME heals all wounds. Healing begins AFTER you "give up" and let it go. IT'S NOT EASY. Thanks for the tips - I need reminders every day. I am perpetually preparing for the calls and emails that never come. You offer some great advice - no blame, no shame - is the ONLY hope that they will ever look at both sides.
@jenniferabbo
@jenniferabbo 29 күн бұрын
Abolish blame
@marthaokelley9360
@marthaokelley9360 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. 8 years i have wanted to die. The CRUELTY.....The CRUELTY. THANK YOU. Your words were very helpful. Truly helpful. Thank you again.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
So very welcome. Many prayers and hugs.
@Occupied_South
@Occupied_South 3 ай бұрын
Same here. I'm walking dead most days.
@GenaMcLean-pj3iw
@GenaMcLean-pj3iw 3 ай бұрын
​@@Occupied_Southsame..... I want to move on now...
@Khd387
@Khd387 Ай бұрын
You remind me of the pastor who told me if I was nicer to my husband he wouldn't beat me! He told me I should be ashamed of myself for showing up at church with bruises on my body! Mistake number 1 sacrificing you dignity and self respect to kiss the ring!
@ginanieto2948
@ginanieto2948 10 ай бұрын
The thing I have learned so far is, bad mom. Take whatever your adult child throws your way. My take away is the relationship is not worth it
@duo7552
@duo7552 10 ай бұрын
Lordy, I hate to see the outcome of our own childrens' children with this advice given. Lol. Been there, done that but my coddling days are finally over after 30 years now, thank goodness. I'm free and it is my turn to heal for the very last time.
@Kimock7Autism
@Kimock7Autism 5 ай бұрын
dam right well said - I was thinking same thing
@KS-fd8cx
@KS-fd8cx Жыл бұрын
Parental alienation is so devastating. I raised my Daughter and we had a strong and loving bond until her Father began an affair and started his campaign of denigration against me. The alienation was slow at first, because she was 7 yrs old and still needed me. By age 12 my Ex began to ramp up his manipulation and used my parenting against me by making her believe that I was trying to control her and “bring her down”, that I had mental health issues, etc. Once he had her fully manipulated he then took legal action against me to remove the child support order and put her directly in the middle of the legal battle. She is now 16 and refuses to stay with me. She contacts me when she needs something because she knows I’ve always taken care of her needs. I fear that I have lost the strong bond and love we had, especially as she is with her Father, the alienator, as the manipulation and brainwashing continues.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
I am sorry for all of this. I do hope you watch the videos. They will help you deal with all of this. God bless. Trust God and stay strong.
@KS-fd8cx
@KS-fd8cx Жыл бұрын
@@FamiliesDividedTV Thank you. It truly is soul crushing and a daily grieving process.
@lovepeace8965
@lovepeace8965 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@GUCC1197
@GUCC1197 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment. That must be so painful. Don’t be tempted to withdraw or withhold love from your daughter because she has “chosen” your ex. Remember she is only sixteen and doesn’t have the maturity to see things objectively. Give her time to mature. You might have to wait until she’s a mother herself to truly appreciate you but in the meantime continue to love her unconditionally.
@jullianneavery4587
@jullianneavery4587 Жыл бұрын
Oh this is so horrible, one has to have experienced this to really understand the pain of this.
@MstLvDgs1982
@MstLvDgs1982 6 ай бұрын
What a realistic way to explain parent adult child estrangement. I made the decision to step away from my 3 adult children’s lives. There are grandchildren involved, but I’ve come to terms with this. It wasn’t easy, but necessary. The grandchildren were moving in the same direction as their parents. I can’t control what their parents say to them about me. It’s not the grandchildren’s fault, but it’s still extremely painful. I’ve stepped away from their lives after over 15+ years of repeated alienation on their part. I’ve stepped off of the rollercoaster of being told I’m a terrible mom and grandmother etc. I actually feel like weight has been lifted from me. It’s time.🤷🏼‍♀️
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV 6 ай бұрын
So very sorry for your situation. I hope our videos and God can help you.
@MstLvDgs1982
@MstLvDgs1982 6 ай бұрын
@@FamiliesDividedTV God is the only reason I was able to be strong and choose peace!😇
@Kwood10
@Kwood10 25 күн бұрын
Same thing I went through 😢
@thejojojo1111
@thejojojo1111 Жыл бұрын
❤This only applies to parents who ACTUALLY PUT IN EFFORT to connect and contribute to a child's life. Emotionally, mentally, physically, and spiritually. If you made ZERO effort because you bailed , neglected, abandoned, or were in prison, you don't count.
@kristenmerrill-nl2dh
@kristenmerrill-nl2dh Жыл бұрын
Add sexually abusive parents to this list. The commentary in this video doesn’t fit at all for parents who were never parents to begin with. We owe them nothing but setting them free. Estranged parents miss the boat when they assume they are the victims.
@zenaidacarroll215
@zenaidacarroll215 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think that parents that were like that are seeking help and support. They aren’t the ones on sites like these. Unfortunately.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
So very sorry for your situation. You are right.
@Curioinfinity
@Curioinfinity Жыл бұрын
I know if my child’s father ever comes back into our lives, I will be devastated. He has done nothing to support. He doesn’t even know her birthday. She deserves better and I doubt he will ever put the work in to be better in the way she should have. My father doesn’t either. It was devastating to grow up with no mother and a very unavailable and not-interested father. It shaped my life in a regrettable way.
@katiehav1209
@katiehav1209 Жыл бұрын
Those are different situations to be handled differently. And unfortunately, alienating parents say similar things. So it's a difficult thing to have a reality that is so twisted by so many others. You have to be secure in your own decisions and reasons. Hopefully, it's not because you are an alienating parent doing harm.
@richardbonfils6791
@richardbonfils6791 10 ай бұрын
My gosh, I had no idea there are so many of us. Such a sad, sad state of affairs. Hutrz!
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV 10 ай бұрын
Sadly there are. I hope our videos help you.
@tomhaywood8619
@tomhaywood8619 4 ай бұрын
Yes, there are a lot of us. It seems we are all coming out of the wood work because like me we are all saying enough is enough. Time to get rid of what makes us ill and start breathing the fresh air.
@nancygraham8940
@nancygraham8940 10 ай бұрын
Never thought I would feel this way, but I am so over it. The son we had was lost as an adult. We just think of him as being gone. Our sweet boy is indeed gone 😢
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV 10 ай бұрын
I am truly sorry. I do hope our videos help you.
@reginasarno4696
@reginasarno4696 9 ай бұрын
Me too. Our sweet child was a gift for a time.
@OO-be3jz
@OO-be3jz 9 ай бұрын
​@@reginasarno4696 That's what I am trying to trick my mind into believing. Mourn him and try to get on with life. Kind of hard to do because I know he's alive and thriving, based on the photo updates he regularly sends everyone except me.
@ddhqj2023
@ddhqj2023 8 ай бұрын
You still have the memories of that sweet boy but the adult he turned into betrayed you. Had the same experience, so I agree 100% with what you said.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV 8 ай бұрын
@@ddhqj2023 well said
@Dodoorknob
@Dodoorknob Ай бұрын
These videos really helped me understand why children distanced themselves from their parents. My mother and father are complex, rarely prefect individuals, but I’d never distance themselves from them. Because I love them. But the amount of narcissism, entitlement some of the parents have in these comments tells me everything I need to know on why their kids don’t talk to them.
@therealtoni
@therealtoni Жыл бұрын
I went through it for 2 years. It wasn't worth it to do that and it isn 't worth it to be back in touch. Believe me. Don't bother. Redo your will and move on!
@gunillarommer2581
@gunillarommer2581 10 ай бұрын
Interesting!
@jessijfly
@jessijfly Жыл бұрын
I had to come back and say thank you for your video which I feel is a true benefit to society. The way that you framed these issues gave me a new perspective,and using this information I have made some progress. I spent so much time in shame and frustration and confusion that it never occurred to me that the way society has been changing does have a large part to play also. I think you are spot on about the no guilt theory.
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
So very glad it was helpful. I hope other of our videos help too.
@crystalhoisington8693
@crystalhoisington8693 6 ай бұрын
Wow, what a bunch of crap. If they want to go, let them go. As parents, you spend the better part of your life serving them, caring for them, putting them first. You do the best you can. And at some point, they decide it just isn't enough. Or it wasn't done the 'right way.' (According to some unknown 'master source.') So they boot you out of their lives (often without an explanation). And as parents, you are supposed to jump through hoops, and mea culpa your way back into their lives. Nope. Nope. Nope. Smile, tell them you love them, and move on. Take your life back and enjoy it. Believe me, you will be much better off. Some of those children will grow up and find their way back to you, as grownups who have learned valuable lessons; some will never return. Such is life. It is time to enjoy yours.
@angelaweber5879
@angelaweber5879 6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, for most people it's not that easy.
@marinat187
@marinat187 3 ай бұрын
@@angelaweber5879 Do you choose misery ?
@merrileethompson-f1i
@merrileethompson-f1i 8 ай бұрын
After 10 years of reflection, research, and reading on this topic and considering my daughter's personality I've decided that i don't want a reconciliation. It would just add to the pain i endured trying to parent her with her absentee narcissistic father. During my divorce he put us through hell. It was her decision to go no contact but if i humiliated myself anymore in trying to "win" her back I'd just be self inflicting more abuse on myself adding to the abuse I've already suffered. She was a difficult kid with lots of issues growing up and now she's seemingly happily married, has a good job she likes and is too old to have kids. Im happy for her and wish her the best. Sometimes i feel her decision to cast me out of her life and blame me for her issues is unfair to me and i feel angry and resentful; but then i remember that we are both grown women and we get to make choices in our lives. This sounds weird but i hope she doesn't spend too much time hating me because that is as much of a burden as i feel sometimes. I'd rather just accept the situation without anger and try to enjoy my life and wish us both well.
@Bluebell117
@Bluebell117 Жыл бұрын
This feels like being gaslighted just to keep her in my life 😔 I just can’t do that anymore, the lies have been beyond hurtful and destructive to our whole family - I cannot allow her partners need to make me wrong, purely because he perceives me as a threat to his control over my daughter. She has chosen to allow his control of her, she has chosen to distance herself to keep her partner happy - I don’t have any control over that and I can’t win him around because he 100% is not interested in her or anyone’s happiness … only about protecting his position of control.
@pisceananarchyvortex7223
@pisceananarchyvortex7223 Жыл бұрын
If that's true then she needs you MORE THAN EVER! Look into the psychology of psychological abuse!
@marinat187
@marinat187 3 ай бұрын
Do not lose touch with your daughter. You are the only person she could rely on if she' decides to get out . Some men even use hypnosis to keep a victim woman under control.
@victoriator8863
@victoriator8863 11 ай бұрын
Normal relationships shouldn't be that hard. After listening to this talk one may ask: what's the point of having children at all? It looks like one has to shut off all the normal feelings, produce only the "happy vibes", don't even mention feeling pain... If even the friendship is not possible then why bother at all?
@g.s.5868
@g.s.5868 11 ай бұрын
an ex girlfriend is just a girl you met, an ex wife was a stranger for most of your life, your kids, you raised them and how they could fathom doing this is NORMAL for them
@stevesayers2471
@stevesayers2471 9 ай бұрын
Having kids to further the population and not go extinct as a species
@victoriator8863
@victoriator8863 9 ай бұрын
@@stevesayers2471 You are right. My question was rhetorical.
@marinat187
@marinat187 3 ай бұрын
That's the whole idea of the trend
@TheTrichD
@TheTrichD Жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr. Coleman, you've clarified a lot for me. After rule number one, I realised I am not capable of reconciliation with my daughter's, even if they were the one's who stopped communicating with me. They both did not invite me to their weddings and one returned Christmas gifts to my grandchildren. Above all I need to be fair in my life and if fairness doesn't exist in a reconciliation, I'm done. I will always pray for them, their spouses and my grandchildren. 💖🙏💖
@FamiliesDividedTV
@FamiliesDividedTV Жыл бұрын
I hope our videos can help you.
@TheTrichD
@TheTrichD Жыл бұрын
@@FamiliesDividedTV I hadn't realised this family issue is as wide spread as it is. Thank you to all involved, it's an amazing informative video. 💖🙏💖
@frederickmuhlbauer9477
@frederickmuhlbauer9477 11 ай бұрын
I’m in a similar place with my son and I know the hurt Godbless you I pray you can find happiness and move forward as things are
@ernietbone4168
@ernietbone4168 11 ай бұрын
Another thing, parents here who genuinely did the best you could for your children, if your children are taking a combative stance towards you and are being mean to you, consider, would you want this person in your life if they weren't related to you? If they were a friend who turned on you, would you want them back? Why? It's a tough question. But you really have to consider this before you decide to make amends. You're going to be throwing yourself under the bus for them and frankly, they might not deserve it. I have a daughter also and we have a good relationship. However, if she were to turn on me and become malicious, I would consider whether it's worth maintaining contact. As much as I love her, I need my peace as well. You are allowed to lovingly let go.
@citigirlie211
@citigirlie211 11 ай бұрын
Basically, what you're saying is letting your child win even when they are not being rational. Gotcha.
@LifeWithBunny
@LifeWithBunny 6 ай бұрын
Win what? Everyone loses.
@yo80090
@yo80090 3 ай бұрын
​@@LifeWithBunnylol thats how most of the boomers think I wont let you win, you owe me, i did my best, i gave you this and that...even in this stupid video you can see how this boomer insista: is not fair is not fair...wtf do you know boomer
@jenniferabbo
@jenniferabbo 29 күн бұрын
What's to win?
@ValBarber-by1sd
@ValBarber-by1sd 8 күн бұрын
What choice do you have? You aren’t letting your child win. They are irrational, true. How you make an adult love you when they don’t?
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