What moves do you think should have been mentioned? (outside the obvious few)
@mmx4000010 ай бұрын
Cloud bair Kazuya Ewgs Sonic spin dash Game and watch nair Samus charge shots thos are kinda obvious tho
@benross917410 ай бұрын
Dimensional Cape (at least as good as Flip Kick), Hero up B, Meta Knight Fsmash are some good more niche ones. And Incin doesnt have a single bad move really.
@BigMarioFan2810 ай бұрын
Squirtle ftilt
@zer0mar32210 ай бұрын
As a Yoshi main, I'd easily vote for bair. All his aerials carry because his absurd air speed, but bair imo is half the reason why Yoshi went from being mid in Smash 4 to being borderline top tier in Ultimate. Has combos at quite literally every percent including even when done rising if at low percent, is a multihit that can mixup opponents on landing, the last hit's disjoint is very not ok and needs to be seen to be believed (I have straight up beaten Sonic Fsmash with that, SONIC FSMASH), and also kills quite hard with a tricky, location-dependent DI. It's also uncannily good at shield pokes, idk why.
@SlopTart0726010 ай бұрын
Luigi’s down b
@benross917410 ай бұрын
You can probably find a move like this for at least half the cast lol
@xjgal770210 ай бұрын
Not like these. You can find a “best move” but half the cast does NOT have a move even close to as good as Mario UpAir or Fox Nair for example
@benross917410 ай бұрын
@@xjgal7702 Thats fair
@UmbraStarWolf10 ай бұрын
Ptooie
@michaelkarim5710 ай бұрын
A lot of mid and low tiers live off of one move
@williambob210110 ай бұрын
Make the video then
@zer0mar32210 ай бұрын
Tbh what makes Fox nair carried isn't the nair itself, because it's otherwise pretty standard. It's more about his mobility stats and follow ups that make it broken. If Fox didn't have top 1 fall speed and nair upsmash wasn't a kill confirm or if dash attack didn't combo into the entire Lylat system, nair would only be decent.
@palatonian961810 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing about the Mario up air. I think it's so fascinating how indivisible moves and characters are in a platform fighter.
@dragonfruitreal10 ай бұрын
comboing into the entire lylat system is wild
@farewell41810 ай бұрын
Kind of the same as Game and Watch chef, Game and Watch has fast startup, powerful smash attack and tilts that combo into chef. His tilts are pretty lackluster as they’re unsafe and d tilt doesn’t even hit air but since they combo into chef, they’re crazy strong. If Game and Watch had something like Incineroar movement stats, chef would be one of the worst moves in the games for Game and Watch but since he’s fast enough to combo into itself, it’s really strong
@jonemillester10 ай бұрын
EWGF is up there
@splaturials915610 ай бұрын
Without ewgf hed be nothing
@terai98410 ай бұрын
@@splaturials9156 this move needs to be nerfed
@akahira2410 ай бұрын
@@splaturials9156 if you're nothing without the suit(ewgf) then you shouldn't have it
@farewell41810 ай бұрын
He’d be mid tier or lower without EWGF, that’s why it’s so infamous. Ferps tech would be impossible, high damage combos would be impossible, definitely would be detremental. His disadvantage, neutral, approaching, and ledgetrapping are some of the worst in his game and his only savior is him having by far the best advantage state in the game, and that all comes from Electric Wind God Fist. He could be argued bottom 15 without the move seriously. His highest combo would probably be like stature smash > gates of hell maybe.
@kinzietheostrichman8 ай бұрын
@@farewell418 "by far the best advantage state in the game"... Steve standing menacingly
@Exorcist_ali24810 ай бұрын
How could you forget about Luigi down taunt? Literally a 2-framing instakill spike and a combo starter on stage. Best move in the game, no doubt.
@garylum168610 ай бұрын
It’s true. All of the top players do it. You can even ask my dad. He works for Nintendo😤
@flamingfury28710 ай бұрын
Imma be honest, most of fox's kit carries that character. Like, dash attack is busted, upsmash is busted, upair is busted, back air is busted, the list goes on. It's really the entire character that carries the player. (Edit: I know this because I play fox)
@ignazioacerenza988110 ай бұрын
You can say that about any top tier character.
@OkairMcLaren10 ай бұрын
4:51 tells me everything I need to know that you don't know anything about Bayo lol. She cannot do another abk if its blocked they specifically coded it so she only gets another abk on hit. No wonder why people overestimate the character so much.
@gabegrekerman10 ай бұрын
easy one: Greninja Dash Attack. Impossible to play this character without clicking move once.
@ivanzamorano352510 ай бұрын
4:51 Bayo does not get another ABK if she hits a shield. How do you even not know this.
@jonathantracy520510 ай бұрын
4:50 You cannot do another abk if the opponent shields it. This is coming from a Bayonetta who caps her gsp a lot.
@BBSnape10 ай бұрын
Bayo's side b is so absurd. Given the poor air speed of my main MK, I almost can't jump in neutral.
@Ervangelical10 ай бұрын
Yoshi is carried by the A button
@dangitarmy768810 ай бұрын
Not like his b buttons are any good
@antray684810 ай бұрын
He went full Esam mode with this one damn
@luis3734210 ай бұрын
How so? What do you think he could’ve said instead? 👀
@cashwilliams398810 ай бұрын
first one that came to my mind was incin side b
@Exorcist_ali24810 ай бұрын
Elite smash only
@mysteriousmuffin601710 ай бұрын
@@Exorcist_ali248 nah without side b even offline it makes his approaches probably the most predictable in the game
@Exorcist_ali24810 ай бұрын
@mysteriousmuffin6017 incin side b is a really good move, but if you think it can contend with the moves listed in this video, you're playing too much wifi.
@offdeez2110 ай бұрын
As a ZSS main, flip jump is not ok
@potatopatch520210 ай бұрын
Nah she needs it.
@offdeez2110 ай бұрын
@@potatopatch5202 mb bro ur right
@BigMarioFan2810 ай бұрын
I think mario bair carries more than upair
@splaturials915610 ай бұрын
PACMAN NAIR IS FRAME FUCKINGGG 3
@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS9 ай бұрын
fruit and hydrant tho
@calebburrows765810 ай бұрын
Ok I'll admit it. Peach deep down is carried by turnips even way more than float. It's literally the answer to every single bad match-up she has.
@heartnet4010 ай бұрын
You know Turnips are broken when reflectors don't factor into the Peach MU at all lmao I think I've literally only seen Light reflect a Turnip at top level play and it barely did anything for him.
@alexpolenzani655310 ай бұрын
50 frames of lag when she pulls it any tournament viable character can punish her for one wrong pull, and usually her worst matchups where turnip helps those character will blow her up in one interaction, getting turnip out is hard and it’s a one time use if you miss. It’s not broken in the grand scheme of things.
@Eggss_B10 ай бұрын
Anyone that's saying turnips aren't broken is coping. They are OBJECTIVELY broken and give Peach a lot more creativity and mixup potential, as well as huge combo potential. Turnip PULL is bad, yes, but that means you have to be wise on where you pull a turnip. Learning how to play neutral without turnip is essential for getting better with her.
@rouge-ish32410 ай бұрын
I mean having an item is pretty strong for any character compared to a projectile special
@tumultoustortellini10 ай бұрын
Every character's up-b should win by default then right?
@BigMarioFan2810 ай бұрын
Nah jigglypuff and yoshi disagree
@Isun-u1q10 ай бұрын
Leaf Shield (Mega Man)
@DistoCarbon10 ай бұрын
I don’t think this can be consider has a move but what do you guys think about cloud without his limit ? still viable or just known for is bair :’)
@ezramoore947210 ай бұрын
Limit makes him a little bit better but doesn't make or break cloud
@SwingSwordsChopLords10 ай бұрын
im smash 4 limit was way more important because you could hold it forever and always have the passive buffs + access to limit climhazard. In this game it goes away obviously its still good but not as important to clouds gameplay. His aerials are what matter. u could take everything else away and he'd still be damn near high tier with those aerials
@astro7r32610 ай бұрын
Lucas pk freeze can do some crazy stuff off stage
@Honyoru10 ай бұрын
For the uptilt of falco it's -12 on block only if you it the back hit The front hit is like -20 so very punishable
@Jagardo10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video Dabuz!
@PurpleElectricSpark10 ай бұрын
Incin's revenge and alolan whip
@venuswine990510 ай бұрын
Now the logical progression is to mod all of these moves onto a single character
@arianagrandebayo10 ай бұрын
I love ABK so much
@AnonymousAnonymous-je8mu10 ай бұрын
Dabuz, you should make a move tier list series like esam. It would be awesome to hear your perspective.
@Bobo-ye7dq10 ай бұрын
Luigi grab lol
@phillfraggy10 ай бұрын
Who's that character in the thumbnail with the red outline?
@highlander746210 ай бұрын
How do you see the hitboxes?
@huxinfilm24910 ай бұрын
how do you mod practice mode like that?
@Kaze9110 ай бұрын
Joker back air does my taxes for me.
@fooze785210 ай бұрын
Any chance we'll see a tink era in the future?
@colinhoeg47289 ай бұрын
I think upair on fox is more busted. Combos. Kills. Stun hits on landing into upsmash at any %. Including WAY over nair upsmash kill %. Like it's dumb.
@cranesalvation839110 ай бұрын
I was thinking Byleth nair before clicking and yup lol
@mohammadalhusaini81010 ай бұрын
Dk bair/cargo throw/dash attack should be here.
@KingObliv10 ай бұрын
alternate title the moves you know are broken are actually really good
@CaseyAQuarles10 ай бұрын
My Ganondorf absolutely hates Falco up tilt. Glad this is on here 🤣 but Steve Minecart deserves to be on here
@xx_nerman_xx10 ай бұрын
i half expected puff rest or mewtwo disable to be here but just my 2 cents
@gaelgarcia-velez310310 ай бұрын
I’d argue puff fair or dair is much better and more prevalent in her kit
@Sticker_By_NCT_1277 ай бұрын
I don't even play this character, but Duck Hunt is literally nothing without his Neutral B
@MrSeraphant10 ай бұрын
Dabuz do the 5 HARDEST moves to use properly [besides lil mac aerials
@owenicewater970410 ай бұрын
Pyra side b gives her a free +3 on Ice Climbers
@luis3734210 ай бұрын
That’s fair! Since Ice Climbers for just existing is free +3 on Mario, Fox, Sheik, and Diddy. 👍🏽